Police Interview of Todd Kohlhepp, November 22, 2016, Never Before Seen Publicly, PART 1 — Transcript
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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to my channel.
- 0:03My name is Gavin.
- 0:04Thank you so much for joining me today.
- 0:07I have to say, I'm actually shocked at the response
- 0:10I had in regards to the videos and the audio recordings
- 0:16that I've released in the Todd Kohlhepp case.
- 0:19I didn't expect there to be such a desire
- 0:22to see this stuff in their raw format
- 0:26and so I've just decided, because I have more
- 0:30from the solicitor's office down there in Spartanburg,
- 0:33that I will go ahead and release these things in their entirety.
- 0:37I want you to know that I'm not doing this to glorify
- 0:41or celebrate or in any way
- 0:45lift up on a pedestal. Mr. Kohlhepp.
- 0:48To me, he is the lowest of the low.
- 0:51He is a serial killer.
- 0:53And what we really should be thinking
- 0:56about are his many victims, at least eight
- 1:01seven who died,
- 1:03one who survived and then there was one from his childhood.
- 1:07So I guess at least nine.
- 1:11What I'm going to share with you today and I won't be labor this.
- 1:14I'll be really quick and I will leave a link directly to it
- 1:18down in the description so you can skip over just what I am saying.
- 1:23This is an interview that police did
- 1:26on November 22nd, 2016.
- 1:29So Mr. Kohlhepp had been arrested.
- 1:32He was in holding.
- 1:34He was not convicted at this point,
- 1:38and he did it.
- 1:39The interview was done at his request.
- 1:42I have I have worked hard to improve the audio
- 1:47so that it's a little bit better and easier to listen to.
- 1:51I hope I hope that works for you guys.
- 1:54And I think that this might be the first time
- 1:57that this interview is getting out in its entirety.
- 2:00I haven't even found
- 2:02bits and pieces of it, but that doesn't mean that it's not there.
- 2:06So I'm going to release it in its entirety.
- 2:09But because it's in three
- 2:10and a half hour interview, I'm going to release it in four parts.
- 2:14So this is part one of four.
- 2:17And thank you for joining me today.
- 2:19I will see you at the end of this video.
- 2:38Sir? I don't know.
- 2:39You don't know either?
- 2:42We have no idea.
- 2:43I understand. You want to talk to me? Yes, sir.
- 2:45And I'll talk to you about whatever you want.
- 2:47I just have to read this to you again so I don't get in trouble.
- 2:50Okay.
- 2:54Now, normally, we put a case number here
- 2:56and a reason why, but I don't know why you want to talk to me.
- 2:59So I've kind of let them, like,
- 3:01because they said they called me tonight and said you wanted to talk to me.
- 3:04So I left my big, fat, juicy cheeseburger.
- 3:08Contact me. I'm sorry.
- 3:10That's.
- 3:10I'm hearing that the doghouse up in Camberwell,
- 3:14but not the best burger in the world.
- 3:16Dude, I really don't get out much. Really? No.
- 3:20But, you know, I read this to you the other day.
- 3:23You have the right to remain silent.
- 3:24Anything you say can or will be used against you in a court of law.
- 3:26You have the right to talk to your attorney,
- 3:27have a drive with you while you being present,
- 3:30and then only mildly questioning if you cannot afford.
- 3:33An attorney will be appointed to represent you
- 3:34so that you have the right to stop and answer the questions.
- 3:37And in point, the question of rights have been read to you by me.
- 3:39You have your rights as explained by me and agree to talk to me
- 3:42in reference to whatever it is you want to talk to me about.
- 3:46And any statement that you make is of your own free will without fear or threat.
- 3:49Almost everywhere today in town you're able to read
- 3:50and write the English language of 18 years ago.
- 3:52And I just added right here that you have requested to speak with me.
- 3:56Okay. I should need to sign there in there.
- 3:58I mean, let's use munchkin.
- 4:03My has been a few
- 4:04weeks and it looks like you're standing down deep.
- 4:07You you wouldn't beg of you.
- 4:10Why? It's foods.
- 4:12Eat it.
- 4:13What is it?
- 4:16I don't want to explain it, man.
- 4:17I mean, it's
- 4:19going to be brief, okay?
- 4:22And now I feel really bad.
- 4:24Well, he me in the long run, to the.
- 4:27They put me in
- 4:29the IMU
- 4:31behavior management unit.
- 4:33Now, what? That.
- 4:34What that is, is I'm not a bad boy.
- 4:35But what they've done is they've labeled label me the color P.C..
- 4:40Okay.
- 4:42Being me is when all the all the dumb asses,
- 4:44they put him in there, take away the mattress.
- 4:46When the guards to me, all the people that are really,
- 4:49you know, kind of like that, they call you, you know, I mean,
- 4:54I got some
- 4:54some blood
- 4:55in there is going batshit right now because they've let me out
- 4:57for a couple of hours a day and make phone calls.
- 5:00Well, here's a trick.
- 5:01I'm polite. Right.
- 5:03I do what I'm told. Right.
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:05So the guards don't give me a whole lot of shit. Right.
- 5:08And it's funny how that works out.
- 5:09I don't know if you're nice, you know?
- 5:11Yeah, I've been in the door Slam shit.
- 5:14Yeah.
- 5:15Well, the one thing is I called just to check on you a couple of times,
- 5:19just to make sure everything was, you know?
- 5:21I mean, you were having problems.
- 5:22Yeah. And, you know,
- 5:26you know, stuff like that, just.
- 5:27Just to make sure.
- 5:29But, you know, I just,
- 5:31you know, and they they
- 5:33and they told me, I said and I talked to Lieutenant Little Spark,
- 5:37you know.
- 5:39Oh, this looks like a pit bull of the saw.
- 5:43No, no, no, no one. No, no, no, no.
- 5:45I'm done.
- 5:46No, A kilo one is
- 5:49kilo one for us.
- 5:51Out on the road is a K-9 unit.
- 5:55Like, really?
- 5:56Yeah.
- 5:56I don't know what Kilo one would be in here.
- 5:59There's a Harley.
- 6:00I don't know what he is.
- 6:01He's either got an Asian twist to him or both.
- 6:03A shit.
- 6:06Maybe he's from the islands or something.
- 6:08I'm not. You're talking about he?
- 6:10Yeah, he's actually a contractor
- 6:14that came to work with the jail
- 6:17talk, teaching things.
- 6:20You know how that goes.
- 6:22I was actually going to work more than you know, I was going to talk to the sheriff
- 6:26and get permission to go see your mom tomorrow,
- 6:29because with everything going on, you know,
- 6:33I'm not really in control of a lot of things anymore.
- 6:36And people smarter than me are people that think they're smarter than me
- 6:41who've taken over a lot of this.
- 6:43I don't want you're the only thing I have control.
- 6:45I don't understand what's going on.
- 6:47I mean, seriously, you're the only that you want to talk to me.
- 6:49I'm the only one allowed to talk to you.
- 6:51Why don't you not come back?
- 6:53Because I was told initially that you had an attorney.
- 6:57And after we talked this, I waited three days.
- 6:59This.
- 7:00I waited three days or Gorshin?
- 7:02Yeah, I went through this. Yeah, we were.
- 7:04I was told you had an attorney, so I was told not come back.
- 7:08I went three days for it.
- 7:09Well, and I never would have come back.
- 7:10I mean, it's not that I was, you know, I was given orders by like, again,
- 7:14people pulling strings higher up than me.
- 7:16There was a slew of people who came through to see me.
- 7:21Well, I gave you that one. One guy
- 7:25fucked me, man, and he had a lot.
- 7:29I had every blame on the.
- 7:31You got quick rundown. Sure.
- 7:32You know, you may appreciate this.
- 7:34I had a guy who came in who couldn't even just give me a business card
- 7:40that looked like something like you would give.
- 7:43What, like some player and the, like, regulate Colt out.
- 7:47I mean, seriously, stupid shit.
- 7:48And what really your card is?
- 7:51He had I had a dude who came in who didn't even have business cards
- 7:56didn't have this is an attorney in that a business card had business card
- 8:00what he at piece paper He could he could he could even look at me.
- 8:05Could even look at me and then kept putting up like, loose can it?
- 8:10We both got reddish blond hair.
- 8:12I don't know about that.
- 8:13This guy was dumb as shit, but strawberry blond
- 8:16hair came in and he wasn't for whatever and he didn't know anything.
- 8:20He's like, Well, if you'll just float me some money.
- 8:23All right. These are not the worst I want to hear. Okay,
- 8:27If you'll float him some money.
- 8:30That's not in my vocabulary.
- 8:31I all helped quite a few guards
- 8:34with real estate lately
- 8:38isn't here.
- 8:38I'm like, you know, I tell you how to do that without problem
- 8:41for me.
- 8:42Run that shit.
- 8:45But the if I would float him some money
- 8:49that he would consider taking on a couple of the weapons charges,
- 8:54I went
- 8:56really?
- 8:57Okay first lying off low to shit weapons to into no sense, but I don't know.
- 9:03I haven't got any weapons charges yet
- 9:05and b, I really don't think that's a primary problem here.
- 9:09Yeah.
- 9:09No, I'm going to go, you know, no.
- 9:14With the name Sarat.
- 9:16No. Okay.
- 9:18Because the one you're describing to me, that's kind of who I thought of.
- 9:21Word Ralph is kind of a skinny round face.
- 9:23Look like a 50 year old retard who basically got out of law school
- 9:28and never did anything in his fucking life.
- 9:30It really.
- 9:31No, he would fit this piece of paper with this.
- 9:34No, He tore a filing for a piece of paper.
- 9:37Didn't go college. You want me and what
- 9:41not? And I like to
- 9:43tell a victim smart, not that I had a guy come down from
- 9:49to interview to whatever from the public defender's
- 9:53office to do the attorneys, the bond hearing.
- 9:59Now, the guy came out to talk to me to he wasn't even an attorney.
- 10:04He came down to do the
- 10:07I guess the evaluation assessment
- 10:09says, look, the guy could look at me.
- 10:13He had
- 10:14you in like the beginning, Look at me.
- 10:16We can't even talk.
- 10:19Was really afraid of you.
- 10:21I don't think so.
- 10:23I don't think so.
- 10:25I'm not a very imposing person.
- 10:26I mean, you know what?
- 10:27I'm not a very imposing person.
- 10:29I don't think I scare anybody.
- 10:31I mean, you're.
- 10:32No, I mean.
- 10:34I mean, I imagine if you got mad, you could be.
- 10:36But I've never, you know, stolen a man that I'm fingers.
- 10:39I mean,
- 10:41I mean
- 10:42just what I mean. I don't rap but I get mad.
- 10:44You know what?
- 10:44I don't react when I get mad.
- 10:46Like, I would never yell.
- 10:48I get quiet when I get when I get upset outside when I'm talking.
- 10:53That's what I mean. We're fine. Yeah.
- 10:56I mean, we can be just tight and shit when we pissed off each other.
- 10:58As long as we're talking,
- 11:01we have no beef, right?
- 11:03It's when I stop talking.
- 11:06And the last two words out of my head are puppy. Yes.
- 11:11You know. Yeah.
- 11:12At that point, especially some hands
- 11:16or do some damage and I'm in
- 11:19pretty sure I'm turning this near.
- 11:21But the thing is,
- 11:24if you don't come at me, I usually will not come to you on He's
- 11:26not the aggressor, right?
- 11:28I'm just won't help it. It's like
- 11:32you've got defense planned out.
- 11:35Well, listen, I'm an offensive detail supplier.
- 11:38Yeah, I wouldn't even.
- 11:40Yeah, you. You give,
- 11:42you give. What is it?
- 11:45I'll give you one.
- 11:45The best. Best offense is a good defense.
- 11:48Not think the best defense is good offense there.
- 11:51Yeah, I like that too.
- 11:52But I mean, I'll give you here in Newark,
- 11:55I'll give you the opportunity to walk is when you
- 11:59give me the impression that you're not going to let me let you walk
- 12:01or you going to go do something stupid.
- 12:03And I go,
- 12:04Let's escalate this bitch. You.
- 12:08But as far as imposing, I don't really think
- 12:10I come off as intimidated mentally sometimes.
- 12:13Maybe physically I'm big,
- 12:17but that's I'm big.
- 12:19But my wife called me Paul Blart and I'm like, Really?
- 12:22You got a dozen people?
- 12:23I mean, these guys I got to shed, they they're, they're more interested in.
- 12:27Can I buy them, buy them my fucking suit, whatever the hell that is.
- 12:30What?
- 12:31Buying them's commissary, not buying your shit.
- 12:34How I can get Thomas hurt.
- 12:36You can't.
- 12:36You can't.
- 12:37Well, let me have shit want
- 12:40because I'm in on high profile
- 12:43because of that and they're keeping me out of GP,
- 12:47which
- 12:49I'm not really against, is not the fact that I like being quiet.
- 12:53Well, my thing, my thing is there's.
- 12:54I just got to like all the noisy people.
- 12:56Yeah.
- 12:58The thing a lot of the reason they probably keeping you in there
- 13:01is because you get out here with some of these dumb asses and GP,
- 13:07you know, and you are high profile
- 13:09and they've seen your news, you know, and
- 13:15they want to make a name for themselves,
- 13:17you know, so they go, well they're going to test you.
- 13:19They will number eight. Yeah.
- 13:21You know, so I mean they're all testing me,
- 13:24you know, I'm saying and, and that's what they don't want.
- 13:27I mean and it's not I mean obviously it's
- 13:31and not to be a smart ass is for it to be, but it's also to protect you.
- 13:35It protects both of us and it keeps the it keeps the drama.
- 13:39Well, the thing about it is you go out there in a GP and you somebody
- 13:43somebody pushes up on you and you end up busting their ass.
- 13:48They are on was out, they, they are going to jump on you,
- 13:52you know I'm saying so and that's kind of, that's kind of probably the,
- 13:55that's a lot of the philosophy behind that.
- 13:57I understand. I'm not fighting it.
- 13:58Yeah, well, I talk I call up here a couple of times.
- 14:01Hey, how's he doing?
- 14:02Just want to check, make sure everything's okay.
- 14:04And they say, yeah, he's he's.
- 14:06And one of the returned. Like,
- 14:09he's really a polite guy.
- 14:11He's really a nice guy.
- 14:12I said, Well, as a, as a this is the thing.
- 14:14And I said, if you treat him with respect,
- 14:17you shoot him with respect and you talk to him with dignity.
- 14:20You ain't going to have a brawl.
- 14:21You're not going to have a problem unarmed.
- 14:23And I said, he'll treat you with just as much respect and dignity as you treat it.
- 14:28I said, You will not have a problem with it. No.
- 14:31And they said, Well, we have.
- 14:32And he had you know, and they told all the little young bucks.
- 14:37I think there's a young buck down there today,
- 14:41you know, And they told all of them,
- 14:42just treat the man with respect, these high profile,
- 14:46but just treated with respect and you don't have any problems.
- 14:48First couple days and then they came in every time that came in the room.
- 14:51My God, they were killing me.
- 14:53I had to get on my knees here. I can't do that.
- 14:55That's what I got. You got. I got you the. Yeah.
- 14:58So how's that working out? Great.
- 15:00Good. I wish I had.
- 15:01I wish I had my flexor off of my back, but, I mean,
- 15:04they won't.
- 15:05Can't hear you, Doctor.
- 15:06I hum. Well, just give me.
- 15:08Just give me a muzzle answer. Right. I don't know.
- 15:10I think we're just going you and then lay on the bed all day long.
- 15:12I mean, I haven't a roll with it,
- 15:16but I don't know much about this side of it.
- 15:19I mean, I've been over on the other side for 19 years,
- 15:22but I don't know if they allow you, if you go to the doctor,
- 15:26if you put in a request that you have a doctor that you go to,
- 15:29if they'll take you to the doctor or they'll let you go see the doctor,
- 15:32they pull my record, they call the stuff up they took at my blew my mind chance
- 15:38I probably get some if I had real insurance.
- 15:40I have Blue Cross Blue Shield, but it's major.
- 15:42I mean, had to be. You got to shoot me to get permits.
- 15:44I mean, you got to hurt me.
- 15:46I got to be your man.
- 15:49There's no nobody can afford that shit.
- 15:51Yeah, And it's only get worse.
- 15:53Yeah.
- 15:54If I didn't have to hide and the doctor all
- 15:57my insurance is, like $100 a month.
- 15:59And that's only because I have a huge fucking deductible.
- 16:02But I've been on the operating table how many now times?
- 16:06If I get anything over besides major
- 16:09release.
- 16:09We won the election.
- 16:14You don't piss me off today, though.
- 16:16Do you hear about this? There?
- 16:18You heard they're not going after Hillary.
- 16:21I don't know.
- 16:22I don't know if you know, you backed off for now or what the deal is,
- 16:27but they put you on the news today
- 16:28that he's going to he's he's going to he's going to let
- 16:32I guess it's my understanding that they're going to let Trey
- 16:37take what he's got and present it
- 16:40and that they're not going to dig any further.
- 16:43I didn't see that on the news myself.
- 16:44One of our friends saw it on Ladies and Gentlemen.
- 16:47Seriously,
- 16:48I know you guys can do this, but you guys should gave me a pass on this shit.
- 16:53Just you obviously use me here in the short like
- 16:57I was there for you.
- 16:58Now you can't to you.
- 17:00I mean, I had bear it, for God's sake.
- 17:04What the fuck do you guys have that can stop it.
- 17:06It goes through both sides.
- 17:07Your arm, water? Yeah.
- 17:09Nothing. Not an I know.
- 17:10And they are
- 17:13those comics boxers.
- 17:14You know, the ones you're seeing, the dumpsters.
- 17:16They look like a chronic box, but they're dumpster constructions out.
- 17:20I've seen an air at 100 yards,
- 17:22over 100 yards punched through one side of those.
- 17:25And we had SLED argue with us one time that that couldn't happen.
- 17:30They all got the ammo in that.
- 17:32Well, no, I mean, we had a guy shooting at us
- 17:35and I was behind the officer with the rifle
- 17:37and he shot the guy shooting at us.
- 17:40And the just on the other side of the guy was this comics conveyor.
- 17:46And we're like, they couldn't find the projectile.
- 17:48So they didn't believe that he had shot that.
- 17:50And they were questioning.
- 17:50And then there was a big investigation That was part of the investigation.
- 17:54Now you're one five, five, six, right?
- 17:55Yeah, Yeah.
- 17:57I-75, Green tab, horny tapping barrier.
- 18:01I'm a punch hole to that shit.
- 18:02Well, what it did was it punched a hole through one side of it,
- 18:05hit the inside of the other side, ricochet and we fell.
- 18:08And what we did was we went back and took the laser
- 18:12off the gun and pointed it right where he shot
- 18:15and found the hole and was able to map it out perfectly.
- 18:21I didn't realize there were some people who had automatic weapons
- 18:24until a friend of mine who was also a cop in the state and he's on.
- 18:30I have a lot of friends of mine
- 18:31who are on your side of the fence, right.
- 18:35SWAT unit,
- 18:36Protective Services along the various states have rules.
- 18:40You know, when they serve, they serve warrants.
- 18:42They roll in with a full kit. Right.
- 18:44I got a lot of heads wanting to do that.
- 18:46And I didn't realize how many people have high end hardware.
- 18:50They're usually cheap. Shit is fashion chitchat.
- 18:53You are right.
- 18:54It's very unusual that someone spends the money like I do.
- 18:57I see in many seats like quality.
- 19:01I mean, when your ass is on the line.
- 19:06I agree.
- 19:07I agree.
- 19:08Although I understand you all had a small shit that about how much ammo.
- 19:11And those are a lot of ammo and the type of ammo.
- 19:13Yeah, there was a lot. There was a lot of ammo.
- 19:16There was a lot of different.
- 19:17Yeah, it, it was
- 19:19overwhelming.
- 19:20It was.
- 19:22You know, that's not all that I know.
- 19:24You know.
- 19:25Yeah. I just don't know where the rest of it is.
- 19:26I'm not going to tell it to you right now.
- 19:29I know, I know. It's on the property.
- 19:30No, it's not. I know.
- 19:33I know that you buried something out there recently.
- 19:37I know that it buried a lot of things.
- 19:40Well,
- 19:42I'm not talking about the.
- 19:48But. Yeah, I mean, and, you know, it's funny that the.
- 19:50We don't laugh about this shit.
- 19:52I know you're recording it, and not to laugh about it, you know it is.
- 19:56And that's to protect me.
- 19:57You know it.
- 19:58And I mean, that's just, you know, stop touching me like that.
- 20:01I'm not like that. No,
- 20:06but what do you think you're going to find a moment.
- 20:09I mean, if it's there, I'll tell you. But what do you think you're going to find?
- 20:12Well, this last this
- 20:16was was actually daughter's name.
- 20:18Haley calling. Okay.
- 20:20We did a forensic interview with her.
- 20:22It's a standard procedure.
- 20:24And she's very, very lovely young lady.
- 20:27And she said, you know, he was never out of the way with me.
- 20:30And I told him in the beginning, I said, you're not she's not going to tell you.
- 20:33There's nothing.
- 20:34I won't touch with you.
- 20:34I said, He won't.
- 20:35I said, he. I said, he is very
- 20:39I said he may have done these things, but these are things that he reacted to.
- 20:44He's not going to touch a kid.
- 20:45He's not going to hurt your kid.
- 20:47Kid all people in cars.
- 20:49But she told them
- 20:53that a couple of weeks before
- 20:56this all happened and we went out there to your property and we came your house,
- 21:00that you were out there with her and you buried something near an oak tree
- 21:05and you were out there all night long and it was in a white box
- 21:08and you used your front end loader to bury it.
- 21:13What now?
- 21:20Let me think about that.
- 21:21But that's not She said it was well, she was out there twice
- 21:24within the last month before we came out.
- 21:26There was one time you went to a building to get a part or something.
- 21:31She said it was either the green building or the container.
- 21:34She didn't know which. Yeah.
- 21:36And then she said there was one time she was out there and you had to bury
- 21:39Utah. You were burying a dog,
- 21:42but it was a big white container.
- 21:44And she said it took you a long time to dig the hole and bury whatever.
- 21:47Angus What's Angus My girlfriend's black dog.
- 21:51What's burying men?
- 21:53Oh, let me tell you,
- 21:56they gave me the box.
- 21:57Okay,
- 21:59but this was last, that march.
- 22:01Okay, well, she thinks she said it was within the last couple weeks.
- 22:05Well, of course, she's a little girl.
- 22:06So timeframe, you know, saying my girlfriend's dog died.
- 22:10Yoga.
- 22:10He's a sweet, sweet, all black boxer.
- 22:14Yeah.
- 22:15And when he passed away, women were trying to deal with it.
- 22:18So we went inside our goodbyes.
- 22:20We put the dog in back.
- 22:21They gave me a white box, had the dog in.
- 22:23Oh, got.
- 22:24And I put him on the tractor and go up to the upper pasture.
- 22:27And you know, when you turn,
- 22:30if you go it's and there's a big oak tree
- 22:33and if you make the left hand turn.
- 22:34Where do you all found Charlie?
- 22:36Okay, right there. The curse of those big trees.
- 22:39There's a spot there that tore up.
- 22:41Only thing in there is Angus, the dog.
- 22:44So if you're coming up that big hill and Charlie
- 22:48not Charlie.
- 22:49Which big hill are we talking about?
- 22:51You know, kind of photographs of this place.
- 22:53You know what I.
- 22:57Charlie is
- 22:58the Charlie is Kala's boyfriend, right?
- 23:02Yeah. Okay.
- 23:03If you come, you guys really give her the 25 K for that shit.
- 23:07I didn't give a shit.
- 23:08There already were Shit.
- 23:10She didn't.
- 23:11She didn't give you all shit I gave you shit.
- 23:14I don't know. Now they're not going
- 23:17to. But you know, you know that piece of everybody,
- 23:20If she, if you know, if you when you go past the our building,
- 23:24you're, you're hanging in your garage, everything.
- 23:27You go up the trail and you go back down this way
- 23:29and you go down this side of the property and you hang a sharp right
- 23:32and you come around the corner and you come up the hill.
- 23:35Charlie was on that left side.
- 23:37Where would the oak tree be there that Angus is at.
- 23:40About that.
- 23:43Yeah.
- 23:44Yeah. I'll tell you what. This is your copy.
- 23:46So I don't want to mess it up.
- 23:47I can draw a line.
- 23:50Oh, let's draw them.
- 23:51How is up? Okay.
- 23:54You know,
- 23:56you're
- 24:00okay.
- 24:01I may not let you out on that and we get a piece of paper.
- 24:05Put it right
- 24:09there at that.
- 24:11-9800. Yeah.
- 24:14Machine company 100
- 24:20and neither were
- 24:25you got front pasture here.
- 24:27Well can't.
- 24:29It's small building bigger Bill Right.
- 24:33You've got a creek that runs right about here.
- 24:35Right.
- 24:36You talk about going across the Woodbridge if you know if you go down this way.
- 24:41Okay, there's a there's a roadway that comes around this way
- 24:44and it goes down by the stone.
- 24:45And that makes it hard right now. No. Okay.
- 24:49It's come down here.
- 24:49You come out here to where you come out with the rocks in it.
- 24:51The met, the river comes back up here. Yeah. Okay.
- 24:54This intersects. You got tree lines here?
- 24:56Yeah. You come around this way and get to Charlie that way. Right?
- 24:59Can't you guys down the car?
- 25:00Right? Yes.
- 25:01Did you move the car? Yes.
- 25:04That bitch. Yeah.
- 25:06I was
- 25:07like, it's like he poured stain on the car.
- 25:10I said, he's not stupid.
- 25:12White car.
- 25:13I said, It's a white car. It's under trees.
- 25:17Plus the stain kills any kind of evidence
- 25:20that's on the cars and that's like, but like, yeah, I know.
- 25:24What I should have done, honestly, is.
- 25:26Is the morning the shit was going down and I had not slept in weeks.
- 25:31I was really fucking tired. Yeah.
- 25:33What I really should have done is instead of me showing my ass,
- 25:37what I should have done is told her I ain't got no fucking time for this shit.
- 25:41Let to say about her being business.
- 25:43Let it go get high or stoned or what the hell she was doing. It
- 25:48and going back to work and
- 25:50that was dumb.
- 25:51Move number want to is course telling you
- 25:54how at half or 6 hours but I should have done it to begin with
- 25:59that my file on
- 26:03it can't be too damn bright.
- 26:07I'm pretty damn smart
- 26:09this year with you.
- 26:11I mean, I'm you know, the thing about it is the person that says
- 26:15that they're smart, as usual is stupid, you know?
- 26:19And it's kind of the flash to my grandpa taught me.
- 26:22And I didn't realize
- 26:23he didn't say it in these words, but when I was in school, I learned it.
- 26:27You know, it's better to keep your mouth shut and have people assume you're stupid.
- 26:31Then open your mouth and remove all doubt
- 26:34at the end of it.
- 26:35Before I told you this about like I should have requested
- 26:40a condition of not getting up,
- 26:44he would
- 26:47you know that all these you are now going after.
- 26:48They're walking down my money.
- 26:50I don't know who's walking down here. Right.
- 26:53Basically, all of you.
- 26:55We have it.
- 26:55Actually, we don't have the authority to get your money.
- 26:58Okay, I got a couple things to ask about that.
- 27:00I got things my ass for a lot of things over.
- 27:02And but I understand this is not going to be just one's way.
- 27:04You know, when I interrogating you right?
- 27:08You know, course questions for you and I'm all I on where I am.
- 27:12I want to think about a couple of things
- 27:13and then I may give you a bonus that's going to absolutely blow your mind.
- 27:17But I'm still shit about that right now.
- 27:22You scare me a lot more than I have.
- 27:25Gary,
- 27:26when you had to pass from
- 27:29decimal powerful damn thing on the damn planet.
- 27:32No, not for me.
- 27:34I complained all the time, right?
- 27:36I get in trouble
- 27:39every hill, every day.
- 27:41I'm waiting for this to be taken away from me because
- 27:45I don't like to shut up the other day.
- 27:48Well, I'm trying to explain something to her.
- 27:50Yeah, And I said, Mama, let me explain this to you.
- 27:53Let me finish.
- 27:53She wouldn't let me explain to you what I said. What I said.
- 27:55If you'll shut up for a minute, I'll explain it next thing I know, her husband,
- 28:00who plays Santa Claus,
- 28:03is yelling at me on the phone.
- 28:05What? Really? We're done.
- 28:09Last two weeks I have had more people come through here.
- 28:11I have lost $30,000 where everybody's brought me
- 28:16releases on shit that's already under contract.
- 28:20You have to pay me regardless, but it's not worth me
- 28:23basically being asked my agents and dealing with that bullshit.
- 28:25I just signed the damn releases.
- 28:28Take your money. My business is dead.
- 28:30The company's dead.
- 28:31I couldn't afford it and get the money.
- 28:33But it would cost a shitload more media on it this out Me is gonna look.
- 28:39I don't have to release you.
- 28:40You owe me money, right?
- 28:42I worked my ass off a soldier and all of that Sorum call
- 28:46and we're like, And, you know, well, well, we.
- 28:50We owe money for rent and this, this and this.
- 28:53And I'm like,
- 28:55okay, what do you want me to do?
- 28:58Well, the money never showed up in the box, or it was supposed to.
- 29:02Or somebody got in the box and took it worked.
- 29:04The mom tried to get it in.
- 29:06I was trying to take care of it the right way,
- 29:08but whoever got it, you got got all that.
- 29:11And that's I don't know where it is. I don't know.
- 29:13The people are putting money in the box and this is why I think that
- 29:18the people, several people that have reached out to me who
- 29:21I have reached out to, the actual owners of the property
- 29:25that you're managing and are paying them directly, that's fine.
- 29:29That's what I was, because I know several people that I that have left me messages.
- 29:33Yeah.
- 29:36And I didn't keep track.
- 29:37I mean, there were so many I couldn't keep track of their names.
- 29:40But when I call them back, this is Tom Clark and returning your call.
- 29:44Don't worry about it.
- 29:45I've already
- 29:46contacted the owner of the property and I'm paying their the rent directly.
- 29:51I was trying to resolve everything. Is it?
- 29:53I have asked for money and then held him, but without my files in front of me
- 29:57in most of my files ain't on that computer.
- 30:00It's more and more up here, right?
- 30:04And spreadsheets?
- 30:05Well, my spreadsheets.
- 30:06Spreadsheets and my.
- 30:08The way I.
- 30:09The way I do my books, basically, I don't pay me until I pay you.
- 30:12And I'm really motivated to me.
- 30:14Hey, so what I do is I take all matters labels first a month,
- 30:16I put them all the labels.
- 30:17I see them here on the desk and the money comes in.
- 30:20I put in my account. It goes in the little thing.
- 30:22When the money comes off the damn thing, I go in, write you a check,
- 30:25your check goes out. Guess what, Dad?
- 30:27Man. Yeah?
- 30:28I don't have to worry about fucking it up
- 30:29because I'm not going to pay me until I make sure you're paid.
- 30:33So. Yeah, Assuage.
- 30:35Plus pay your bill, period.
- 30:36Yeah, Well.
- 30:37Well, I've never had, ever, ever, ever had any ethics issue, money issue.
- 30:42Never been contested. Right?
- 30:45So we haven't had a problem.
- 30:48But yeah,
- 30:50they're made all the harder shit.
- 30:52I mean, I mean, song releases.
- 30:53No, he knows how to get it. Screw.
- 30:55I made my mom power of attorney,
- 30:56but I really shouldn't have done I should made as point of turn it.
- 31:00Yeah.
- 31:01I'll be honest with you.
- 31:02I probably would have done that.
- 31:04Mom means well.
- 31:05Yeah, the bonding really
- 31:09bothers her husband.
- 31:10Yeah, I only met him briefly.
- 31:13I figured you were gonna make.
- 31:15Actually, I figured you would make actually, I was.
- 31:17I was trying to keep some of the heat off OGs.
- 31:21Ashley, Ashley.
- 31:23They're making everyone's life hell out there.
- 31:25My my agents.
- 31:26My agents got phone calls from Japanese TV shows.
- 31:29Yeah, I've had.
- 31:31I've had some of the agents call me.
- 31:34One of the agents was the girl that pulled up to drop off
- 31:38some money driving a white Infiniti we talked about once before.
- 31:43A Hispanic or
- 31:46she's Spanish for any Russian.
- 31:49That's right. You said she was Russian.
- 31:50And I said she didn't look Russian to meet her.
- 31:53She got a phone call from somebody and she said immediate.
- 31:55She said, do I have to talk to them?
- 31:57I don't want to talk to them. I said, You don't have to talk to anybody.
- 32:00My past agents had to change their phone numbers
- 32:02because they legally got blown up so much and so much crap.
- 32:05And, you know, the thing is, so many people who I don't fucking know
- 32:10have come out of the woodwork, people from college.
- 32:13I don't remember even outsourcing
- 32:15who have gone off about how I haven't read anything,
- 32:18but I was just told the synopsis of basically I was a piece of shit and I was
- 32:23this is I don't even know, you know, you I was the kid in college
- 32:27who basically worked.
- 32:28I worked dresser and tie and know I was very aggressive in class.
- 32:32I was there tomorrow.
- 32:33I was paying a shitload of money, but I was paying myself.
- 32:37I'll never learn.
- 32:38I'm not here to sit here and play grab ass.
- 32:39Now come break down.
- 32:44How our time, bitch.
- 32:47Well, and the thing about
- 32:49it is one person and you won't see.
- 32:52Yeah. On the news.
- 32:54I was seen on the news a couple of times from a distance.
- 32:57One time I was seen on the news with you.
- 33:00I had my back to the camera when we were out there. Why?
- 33:04And I wasn't.
- 33:05And one time I was standing in front of your house.
- 33:07But you won't see me doing it everyday.
- 33:10I'm not in this for you.
- 33:11There's no glory. And I want.
- 33:12I want to know how the media got Sondland.
- 33:14Listen, nothing I told was you and you and Mark.
- 33:19We were talking and you asked me about when I was a kid,
- 33:22but I was in Arizona and they asked that when I was a kid.
- 33:25Kid before all this long, many moons ago,
- 33:30that situation
- 33:32got typed up on a Wikipedia page.
- 33:37I didn't tell anybody that, but my supervisor was my supervisor.
- 33:41It was it was it was in the interview room.
- 33:44So I don't know how they got that.
- 33:48Mark didn't tell anybody.
- 33:49Mar been on vacation since, so I did and I haven't talked to anybody.
- 33:53Well, I can't see either one of you.
- 33:55I haven't talked to anybody, so I don't know that I
- 33:56what I don't understand is there's as much disinformation
- 34:00as there is information going on.
- 34:03And I don't understand because I can't see Mark dealing.
- 34:04I can't see You don't know.
- 34:06Mark's been on vacation and he won't talk to you,
- 34:08and neither will I, because I've been asked,
- 34:10I've been contacted and I've been asked and I and basically
- 34:14the way the sheriff was with me
- 34:16and, you know, I told him, I said I said, this is my opinion.
- 34:20And I said and I told the solicitor's office, told everybody this.
- 34:23I said, there needs to be one of two people
- 34:27talking.
- 34:29I said, And it needs to be a structured press release whenever something happens.
- 34:33And there was a development, it needs to be the sheriff
- 34:37and or it needs to be the public information officer.
- 34:40It doesn't need to be just anybody that gets a bit of information.
- 34:44But I don't know how that got out.
- 34:45I can't understand that piece of information which I won't told to you,
- 34:48which I don't think either one that you signed it said it said what?
- 34:51Now go to Wikipedia. And what's it say?
- 34:54It says about my situation when I was 14, The guy I come out of the alley
- 34:58and we're talking about when I was a kid, right?
- 35:00Yeah.
- 35:03They looted all that shit
- 35:05going.
- 35:06What they could do to that is that they had your files.
- 35:10That's all I know.
- 35:11That's what I've been told. I don't know. I'll look it up.
- 35:14I'll find out how cynical I know the fuck.
- 35:16They didn't get it from me
- 35:20because I don't talk to anybody.
- 35:23I could even give you dates I have.
- 35:25Unless it was the feds.
- 35:29But I don't know.
- 35:30Well, somebody.
- 35:31Somebody did a buy a suit and investigate.
- 35:35I mean, I understand my Wikipedia page.
- 35:38I wish my journal was.
- 35:39You have a Wikipedia page. This one, I'm telling you.
- 35:42Wow, Somebody took the time to do some fucking work.
- 35:45And I mean, it goes into some crazy shit I having read it all,
- 35:48I just heard about it.
- 35:50But, I mean, I, I,
- 35:53I know with all honesty, I did not tell anybody anything.
- 35:57I did not tell anybody anything about that.
- 35:59Why have I not been charged with email?
- 36:01Three, three bodies? No,
- 36:05I really don't know.
- 36:07I don't know what they're writing on. Now.
- 36:09I know why you all raced so damn fast on the bike.
- 36:13Shock.
- 36:15I knew why that was going to happen.
- 36:17I did not realize that was an anniversary.
- 36:19I didn't either.
- 36:21I did not either until someone mentioned
- 36:25when I found out it was the next day was the anniversary
- 36:28when we were done talking and you were on your way to the jail.
- 36:32And I come walking around and
- 36:36the sheriff did the press conference, the press release,
- 36:39and said, tomorrow's the anniversary, because we were there watching it.
- 36:42And I looked over at my captain and my lt was like,
- 36:46Tomorrow's the anniversary.
- 36:47You realize you guys went catch hell for that one?
- 36:50Oh, we have.
- 36:52But what do you mean?
- 36:55If there's not
- 36:56enough, what's the word I'm thinking of right now?
- 36:59Conspiracies out there.
- 37:02Yeah,
- 37:03well, everybody's got their own,
- 37:05you know, Everybody here and
- 37:09every retired cop in the world
- 37:13who wants to write a book or as a written a book has an opinion.
- 37:18You know, it's just like this is like you were telling me everybody that
- 37:21those guys or things they know about guns, they all have opinions.
- 37:24You do know realize that your Pat Brown put
- 37:28just about all that on the Internet and I don't know who she is.
- 37:32I know I know the name, but I never dealt with her.
- 37:36She and you talking I hear recently I know wisdom for years now.
- 37:40She's the profiler, lady and I.
- 37:44I don't deal with that much.
- 37:45I know she's been spouting off other things,
- 37:50so I'll read it on the end, you know,
- 37:52and and I don't put in a much faith.
- 37:57And this is what I told Mark.
- 37:59And in Myanmar both agree with it.
- 38:02And I told the sheriff this, too.
- 38:03I said, people can put whatever they want out there.
- 38:05And she put stuff out there.
- 38:07There was a she did a radio show and somebody was listening to it.
- 38:12And I wouldn't even listen to it or listen to this man.
- 38:15Listen, I'm not listen to it.
- 38:16I'm not. Renato is listening.
- 38:18Unless it comes.
- 38:21And I told the sheriff this and told her captain and lieutenant,
- 38:23we had a meeting about it.
- 38:25I said, unless it comes from tot,
- 38:28I'm not going to believe it.
- 38:30And they're like, Why not?
- 38:32I said, Because he's not lied to me yet.
- 38:34And I got I have no reason to believe that he's to lie to me.
- 38:39I said everything that he has told me.
- 38:40I just can't get over the death penalty to remind you right now.
- 38:43Can you take you off death and go out?
- 38:46I You're not on the death penalty list.
- 38:48It's kind of brother.
- 38:49Well, you know, the thing about it is
- 38:53I don't understand what you guys and charge me.
- 38:55I mean, that's weird as shit.
- 38:57I understand why they raced
- 39:00Because the bike show.
- 39:01I mean, it was three days to election.
- 39:02It was a great thing to get him in there.
- 39:04Wouldn't matter.
- 39:06I don't think it would matter to him
- 39:07that the other day I got like 14% of the votes.
- 39:10There was one there was one area, I think it was told me
- 39:13one district where he got like one vote,
- 39:17one district.
- 39:18He got like 100 votes.
- 39:20He came off point in our hall.
- 39:22He he's you can tell me all about how you were ex
- 39:26the scout sniper and you train this and you train that and you shot this
- 39:29and you were part of that.
- 39:30I don't give a shit.
- 39:32Tell me how you gonna make my streets cleaner and how I'm not trust you not.
- 39:35His big thing was more about puffing himself up and attacking
- 39:40the sheriff, who is my friend
- 39:46and who had we talked, rode together,
- 39:50and he pulled me out of the line of fire one night.
- 39:55And, you know, he
- 39:58he's been a mentor to me for a long time.
- 40:01So when you're sitting there and then you're badmouthing him
- 40:05and saying things about him that aren't true,
- 40:07you know, you're not getting my vote and you're not getting anybody
- 40:10that that knows. Right?
- 40:11Then you go on the News County Council and get into an argument
- 40:17with David Britt in the middle of a county council meeting,
- 40:21yelling at David Britt in the middle.
- 40:23You didn't see that and yelled at him.
- 40:25And David Britt were yelling at each other in the middle.
- 40:28You're running for public office.
- 40:30I don't need that.
- 40:31Then you're going to you're going to yell at a county council member?
- 40:34No, sir.
- 40:35But it's not only good for you,
- 40:37he just isn't the right image. Yeah.
- 40:39Obviously, from my statements, I have zero problem with Chuck.
- 40:43Why he referred him as Chuck is of, you know, sheriff, right.
- 40:46Those are you. Because I didn't know that.
- 40:48I just always thought that, you know, that they were.
- 40:51That they were out there when you knew that
- 40:53he said the guy he called me Chuck.
- 40:56They shouldn't have been on these circumstances.
- 40:58So I would have loved to have been just a donor for your SWAT team.
- 41:03I mean, here's the thing about it.
- 41:04I will supply you guys with body armor.
- 41:07I will take care of your ammo, whatever you need for practice.
- 41:11Yeah.
- 41:11Can you put a teakettle logo on the back of them bad boys?
- 41:16I don't know,
- 41:17but I don't know what they're doing down here on the back.
- 41:21And I thought I tried to get my logo.
- 41:24I tried to go ahead the strip clubs, I tried to donate.
- 41:28What was it but black booty shorts with my yellow logo on the ass cheat.
- 41:33Oh, sure.
- 41:33I'm not Dallas. Come all this shit.
- 41:36That would have been good. Advertisement.
- 41:37But I had to build a nice place.
- 41:40Not like one of these little teasers.
- 41:43Ain't the way to kill it.
- 41:44Yeah, it is.
- 41:45Oh, I'm from Jacksonville.
- 41:46I mean, when I was growing up in high school,
- 41:48my friend's dad on the Dollhouse in Jacksonville.
- 41:51Yeah,
- 41:54going to Hell's Angels.
- 41:55Kind of came in a push when I first got here.
- 41:57I went to the dial with Darkside dolls.
- 42:00It was here.
- 42:02It turned into Penthouse.
- 42:05It turned into. Oh, yeah, it is a big the big one on the hill.
- 42:08Yeah, yeah.
- 42:08And I went there and it wasn't on a lot of there.
- 42:12I had a set back. I just kind of chilled out.
- 42:13And the one that I like the club and I'm the one who's quite the number one.
- 42:17And hopefully I won't put my money out here.
- 42:20I'ma keep.
- 42:20I asked myself in it and I won't touch nobody.
- 42:23I'm all enjoy this.
- 42:24The bad part is I fall asleep, right?
- 42:27The pretty girls to loud music and all the
- 42:30flashing calms me out at the
- 42:34island.
- 42:34Got off, right?
- 42:36I mean, tippy the shit out of you.
- 42:37Yeah, I'm not off yet.
- 42:39And I just don't want to show by me.
- 42:42And that's all. Somebody like a hauled out one over some stupid shit going.
- 42:44You're an idiot, man.
- 42:46Well, sorry you didn't haul out before
- 42:49then.
- 42:49The shutdown and this never going to go good for you being hauled out.
- 42:53Yeah.
- 42:53You can fight and do whatever you want, but at the end, it not going to end
- 42:57well for you.
- 42:58Okay? You're there to spend money.
- 43:00You're like the girls want.
- 43:02She's been mine. Yeah.
- 43:03Now if you ask them nicely
- 43:06then you been a little while and ask them nicely and you took them well,
- 43:10let's be realistic. It is amazing.
- 43:12They will let you do it.
- 43:13I have rolled a 20 already on my finger and has a girl, you know.
- 43:16Where can I put this?
- 43:17And she said for a toe.
- 43:18But in the end this you want an embedded
- 43:24sub about how
- 43:25a while I used to walk out there, lose about three grand.
- 43:28Really? Yeah.
- 43:29And not get laid.
- 43:31That would hurt. Not really.
- 43:34I never want her.
- 43:35The time I got home on at.
- 43:38But I had some it Well but,
- 43:42but I mean I would get it.
- 43:43All the girls come round my team
- 43:45and they were girls would know their tapes are really get pissed off.
- 43:48Well I can't help you I mean what keep it them
- 43:51and then they're read a book and they only did this through
- 43:53They did the two for want Why glances on that bucket and I give them to
- 43:58I got T-shirts all the time.
- 43:59So but they kept giving me these damn
- 44:02porn DVDs.
- 44:04Really didn't I really didn't. Porn.
- 44:06I mean, I like.
- 44:07Oh meh ones that they did. No, no, no.
- 44:09And I'm like, if that shit.
- 44:11But you know, the managers, they were harder
- 44:15but I mean it just cutting top is bullshit.
- 44:19And I mean I mean the night I have a stack about nine or ten 002
- 44:23components yet and some got stolen from me one night from on table.
- 44:28I turned around.
- 44:28Well said he grabbed a handful of them like that.
- 44:30A turn Related Audio titles.
- 44:33I looked at how stack a nine or ten I'm here.
- 44:36And now suddenly you got a bunch of over here.
- 44:38You cupholders in your shirt.
- 44:39And tell you what, ma'am, I will tell you one this girls home
- 44:44Amador The real way you can have movies, you can have all that shit.
- 44:48You stroke as much as you got to do.
- 44:50That's all evil.
- 44:52He has looked at me like the way I wanted it.
- 44:54How? Having to stay in. Thanks.
- 44:56I mean, don't get me wrong.
- 44:58I check out porn. Okay? We all knew were guys. Yeah, okay.
- 45:00But hardcore porn.
- 45:02Yeah, I don't care. Yeah,
- 45:05I got a couple DVDs here and there.
- 45:07Yeah, but they're not wash, and then I'll put them in.
- 45:09Well, come on. Go.
- 45:12Well, yeah.
- 45:16Worst thing I think I've got is a where a friend of mine gave me a disc
- 45:19that had various shitty cult internet in the back.
- 45:23Problem is, I can't.
- 45:24I kept moving because they ask me fucking hard drives
- 45:27that every time I would back of the hard drive.
- 45:29I've ruined hard rolls of that shit because I would back because of it.
- 45:33It's not that it's the photos from the home and
- 45:36all those PDFs for all my damn projects, all my damn closings,
- 45:40and I have to back it up.
- 45:41If I don't lose it, I'm screwed right back at this hard drive.
- 45:45Well, then this.
- 45:45Now I have a problem. And I'm not bragging this about this harder on this.
- 45:48And that was.
- 45:48I've copied or copied or copied but didn't copy over.
- 45:52I copy with.
- 45:53Now I got two files and three files and four files.
- 45:55So some of those same files that were this big and now that
- 46:02it's almost appears crazy,
- 46:04there have been a couple times when I've just basically copy stuff over
- 46:07and then just sort of fresh
- 46:08and it's worth it because you start to be too that much.
- 46:12But know what you're looking at.
- 46:14Yeah, this upward, you know, the upper field
- 46:16when you come out, when you come on offense,
- 46:18you come out with the rock art and you come back up.
- 46:20You got big old and long for you it and then it goes back down here.
- 46:25We all had Charlie right at this turn.
- 46:29It was big field was a huge oak tree.
- 46:32Okay.
- 46:33There was like a tree here and a tree there
- 46:36right about in here somewhere is white box.
- 46:40Not Greg.
- 46:40Just don't dig him. But he's there, dog. What about.
- 46:44There's nothing else out there.
- 46:46There is no ammo dug in the holes.
- 46:48There's nothing else out there.
- 46:49There was another thing about there was a, a hole that a a guy came forward
- 46:55and said he dug for you right here next to the next to the garage.
- 47:02He said he dug it.
- 47:03You wanted him to dig it in odd shape.
- 47:05It was like wide enough for your
- 47:09front end loader and it was like ten feet deep and 30 feet
- 47:12or ten feet long and three feet deep or something like that.
- 47:17That's something you talking about.
- 47:18I don't know.
- 47:18He he called it a cord.
- 47:20It was I don't remember his name.
- 47:22I didn't talk to it.
- 47:24I just know that I was told that.
- 47:29And he came into my property
- 47:32and he dug me a hole, wanted to dig me a hole.
- 47:35I don't I don't.
- 47:37He had something to do with pouring the concrete, I think for your,
- 47:42for your building or something.
- 47:45Or you had something to do with something you had him do out there,
- 47:48you had him do some work for you out there,
- 47:50then you ended up having him dig that hole.
- 47:52I know we're doing the friggin holes.
- 47:54I don't. The holes in the building.
- 47:56There's a slab here, which is where you get into walking.
- 47:58And how did you guys get to that door?
- 48:00I never, you know.
- 48:01Did you break the door?
- 48:04Had you? I don't know.
- 48:05I don't either.
- 48:06I wasn't there.
- 48:07I was with you when they did that.
- 48:08Oh, no.
- 48:09I had a slab poured here and I slept way up here, which is where the gas tanks are.
- 48:14And all I did was take two by fours.
- 48:16Screw The darn things in tomb in the ground, put some steaks there.
- 48:19And I had the garcon with Sumatra pour the concrete and smooth the shit out.
- 48:22Is it.
- 48:23One guy came forward and said at one point there was two connects boxes out there.
- 48:29There were two conic
- 48:30containers, other, you know,
- 48:34the neighbor next door?
- 48:35No, this was a guy that delivered, I think it was lumber
- 48:40maybe for the when you were building the top of the did have a lot of lumber
- 48:44brought out right where you were built.
- 48:45You had a guy deliver lumber many times and he took a piss
- 48:49beside one of the conic boxes.
- 48:52And you thought he was going to go all for some.
- 48:54He told him not to run them off
- 48:56and he said that there were two connection tankers out there.
- 49:00No, it was this and it was that and occurred.
- 49:02It was this occur.
- 49:04And I built that out and then was a tree stump over here.
- 49:06And then right here was all the dirt.
- 49:09I had to bring that up and there was a gravel driveway and yeah,
- 49:15I don't have good I'm not sure what the hell he said, but dig it ain't dig any.
- 49:19Yeah, he said it was right right there.
- 49:21And I was like we went over there and looked and I was like,
- 49:25I looked around.
- 49:25I was like, I don't see anything.
- 49:29I don't see anything
- 49:30or anything would have been dug up or buried here.
- 49:33And he and he did this with what,
- 49:36some kind of earth moving
- 49:39similar to what we had out there that night.
- 49:42He didn't say specifically.
- 49:43I didn't talk to him.
- 49:44This was passed on to me.
- 49:49Then, of course, you know, you're going to have a lot of people coming forward.
- 49:52Was this before the building was built?
- 49:54Maybe.
- 49:56Okay, now there was a redneck that, Oh, you'll love the store.
- 50:01I was out there.
- 50:02I hired one individual to bring in a case.
- 50:05The case
- 50:07drive 93
- 50:10big ass bulldozer.
- 50:11It's actually called a tree and not truckloads.
- 50:12That's called a pity, as it was called.
- 50:16Basically, it's basically a bullet.
- 50:17So they had a blade. It's got a stoop kind of thing.
- 50:19He is more blade than scoop, and you can actually open up
- 50:22so I can grab shade, pick things I don't shell around time.
- 50:25Well, it's just to bring that in.
- 50:27But the guy was a lazy beast.
- 50:28Shit. Well,
- 50:29he subbed out two fucking hillbillies from North Carolina with the bobcat.
- 50:34Who? The one
- 50:35guy was retarded and kept falling asleep.
- 50:38And this dude, I don't know how he lived, the way he drove that thing.
- 50:42He can flip it it undistinguished in my life like a dumb ass.
- 50:47And he was sort to clear out the lot.
- 50:48Well, he put the what? The.
- 50:50The building was supposed to be this way
- 50:53or other, or it just be different.
- 50:55Supposed to be an angle. An angle.
- 50:57And then I put it this way and it was to clear out just around the building.
- 51:01Instead, he cleared all the fucking way about the building
- 51:04and made a huge fucking mess.
- 51:06Then I had to pay extra people to bring in a track, hoe the scoop thing
- 51:09and take out stomps.
- 51:10What he did decide to take out stomps.
- 51:13He sort of put dirt on top of the stumps, try to hide them.
- 51:16Well, I paid in cash for all this shit.
- 51:17Well, then he kept get call me every couple of hours.
- 51:19We're done. We're done. And I would drive out there
- 51:23and he ain't done shit for hours.
- 51:25I'm like, You understand?
- 51:26I'm working on a hit top of the ship.
- 51:28Do the job, do what you're told to do.
- 51:30Well, this out, level out that the builder builder went out there
- 51:33and put stakes and help where he wanted it and how to level it when that shits.
- 51:37Don't call me up. Hey, you ran out of here.
- 51:40Well, he kept digging around and around.
- 51:41Dig around, wouldn't do it.
- 51:42And then a friend of mine, I was his friend of mine,
- 51:45showed up later on and he decide to call half
- 51:49his fucking family like, this is going to be a showdown.
- 51:52I'm like, on a showdown.
- 51:55I mean, do the fucking job.
- 51:57I'll pay your cash, and you go about your damn day.
- 52:01And he decided that he didn't.
- 52:02He he'd suddenly come back, he got pissed off
- 52:06and he came out of the damn box like, you want to box?
- 52:08That's from Relic.
- 52:10Oh, we do this.
- 52:13And he stopped.
- 52:14And they start talking to my friend about some of.
- 52:17About
- 52:19how do you say something about
- 52:22people? Fine.
- 52:22Or some shit now, Mama, a doctor, you he.
- 52:30You may not want to do that.
- 52:32He's like Ton, don't play
- 52:35that.
- 52:36Just take it as a piece of advice, all my ass.
- 52:39You know what that is?
- 52:41What is it you alluded to earlier?
- 52:45It's was.
- 52:47There's a couple of things that got me that have been killing me.
- 52:51Okay. But you said
- 52:54the when it came to the ammo that it's not on the property somewhere else,
- 53:00but that would be at a later date after I answered your questions or whatever.
- 53:04What what are your you need to ask me something.
- 53:07I need to ask you a lot of fun.
- 53:09What you got?
- 53:10I promise you I'll answer it if I can, if I know the answer.
- 53:14Still, there's a lot of things since Pete other people have become involved.
- 53:17Well, on the on the smallest guy on the totem pole.
- 53:20I'll be honest with you, the only thing I have and this came
- 53:23straight from the sheriff is Todd called it.
- 53:26He said Tommy Clark is the only person to talk to tackle it.
- 53:30You realize that I would never put that much ammo on one spot
- 53:33that be the more ammo.
- 53:34No, I know, I know, I know.
- 53:37But not anymore.
- 53:39Guns, Eddie, I.
- 53:41Yeah,
- 53:44I know that.
- 53:45I know that. And I keep telling them that I.
- 53:48I've been telling them that I said, I said the way he has talked about guns
- 53:53and how much money he told me he had spent on guns in the shit.
- 53:57You sound.
- 53:57And what we have found does not add up.
- 54:03I know I've said that all along as it does not add up.
- 54:06I said there's guns.
- 54:07I said it may not be on this property.
- 54:10I said, but
- 54:12there is more somewhere else.
- 54:16What I said.
- 54:18But it's not, you know, I said, you know the so what you guys want
- 54:22what you guys want?
- 54:26Well well, let me ask you, what did you you're going to ask me?
- 54:31Why have they not charged me?
- 54:33I don't understand.
- 54:34I don't know.
- 54:35I'll find out.
- 54:39You guys took my cars.
- 54:41You won't give them back.
- 54:43As of right now, the X5.
- 54:47If I don't get the X5 back, the bank's going to take it.
- 54:51I That's not paid off.
- 54:52And I can't give you money to pay for it.
- 54:55That that is 1250 per month.
- 54:57Well 4609.
- 54:59Jesus Christ. That's my mortgage.
- 55:01What the fuck.
- 55:03I was thinking do not recommend buy one third.
- 55:06I need to get that damn thing to BMW and get it sold
- 55:09and otherwise the bank's going to take it from you because they're owed it.
- 55:12Well, they can't take it from us.
- 55:15We've had people try.
- 55:16If it seized, they can't take it over much.
- 55:18Okay, well, I might get some money out of it now you're dead.
- 55:21I understand.
- 55:24I know the the the the motorcycle.
- 55:29I'm trying to sell the damn motorcycle.
- 55:31You guys got married to the motorcycle?
- 55:33Yeah, It's in the man.
- 55:36The file folder that you McCaslin going through.
- 55:41Three white,
- 55:41three ring minor has all school like a school paper
- 55:45protectors and all kinds of paperwork day to day, day to day.
- 55:47It was in the top part of the safe, you know anything over?
- 55:51I didn't know that was in there.
- 55:53I can't imagine. I guess you guys didn't.
- 55:54No, I well, I didn't know
- 55:57it was on there because I wasn't there when they opened the safe.
- 56:00I was with you. You guys broke safety, huh?
- 56:03They did.
- 56:04I was with you when all of that stuff happened.
- 56:08I was with you. You know you can. I was what? A magnet, right? What?
- 56:13I mean,
- 56:14we had people that can open them the way they were open.
- 56:17I was just when I saw him, I was like,
- 56:19I was kind of like those to be open with the magnet.
- 56:22But, I mean, I didn't have.
- 56:24I was with you.
- 56:25You take a natural magnet, power magnet, and you run the left hand side
- 56:29and run it down and it look really damn right.
- 56:32As a matter of fact,
- 56:32you and me and Mark were upstairs talking when that was going on.
- 56:36So I really had to do was ask the frigging cold.
- 56:39Well then I know that it that but don't again
- 56:44what we what I said earlier on people think they're smarter than me
- 56:47that were in charge that are in charge
- 56:50you know that this and
- 56:52they cut open the big ones or they just actually figure out how to open them.
- 56:55They cut them.
- 56:57You know, I'm to lie to you.
- 56:59They cut them.
- 57:00They got them open.
- 57:06By the way, the chloroform.
- 57:08Yeah. I want to know about that. Oh,
- 57:11that wasn't what you look at.
- 57:15I was actually trying to get me
- 57:17I had a connection for having a rail down on them,
- 57:22but it
- 57:29out of bonds.
- 57:30My other shit in the lavatory cards,
- 57:34basically I get it on the side face and I.
- 57:39Yeah, it's fun stuff you're playing with it.
- 57:41Which was like schools like islands.
- 57:43Okay, Why?
- 57:46Before we to do a cyanide, Put a bullet.
- 57:50Oh, Frank. Referee only does so much, but.
- 57:54Mercury.
- 57:55Yeah.
- 57:55So your bullets tipped with mercury.
- 57:57I have something like that. Yeah.
- 57:58Do we have them?
- 58:00Yeah. No. Okay.
- 58:03I'm just for safety sake, deal with you.
- 58:06Don't.
- 58:07River doesn't Bullet, don't. You know?
- 58:09I told you Marks the gun, man.
- 58:11He will know this trick. Okay.
- 58:13What do you think it does?
- 58:15I would have no clue.
- 58:18I seriously would have no clue.
- 58:19All right, I won't give you the non truth.
- 58:21You know the truth. Okay.
- 58:23You take a bullet. It's to be a whole point.
- 58:26Okay.
- 58:27By the way, using the first four match rounds, it doesn't work.
- 58:31Those hollow points are not meant for expansion.
- 58:33Those will change in coefficient when you're shooting
- 58:36so different range, you actually cuts off the wind measured to have the in weight.
- 58:39Long story short, it makes more accurate. Okay
- 58:42known as open tip match bottle hall points.
- 58:45The whole point is not the whole point you used invested in hoist of species
- 58:50entirely and the rifle does not expand.
- 58:53But if you take you take a small drill in, you can drill them out,
- 58:59make them bigger, or you take you pistol rounds,
- 59:01although you never really ever since they came out with hydrostatic
- 59:04and just some of the the newer rounds of the defense critical defense rounds.
- 59:08Very you don't need to do this but one of the old school ways
- 59:12of really fucking somebody up and
- 59:15it's a flicker teachers
- 59:19you're not gonna like the punch line this guy
- 59:23people think it's to poison you Thing is, if I shoot you
- 59:27with 168 ground green round or 100 or whatever, and I shoot you, what
- 59:32do you think?
- 59:33You really will be around long enough for the mercury to poison you?
- 59:36No, no.
- 59:37You got bigger problems with, right?
- 59:39That's not what it does.
- 59:42Well, it. Folks, You guys up?
- 59:44Oh, don't take this new guys.
- 59:45Is arming cops What it does when you take Mercury into inside out.
- 59:49Okay. Want it makes the ball heavier.
- 59:51Now you do lose range, but actually the heavier bullet keeps you longer.
- 59:55Ranks as one insertion.
- 59:57But it doesn't work that way on the tip because it's now mobile.
- 1:00:01What you seal that when it comes out doesn't do shit.
- 1:00:05When it hits you, it causes the heavier bullet so you have more impact.
- 1:00:10Then it helps to further take the whole point and spread it.
- 1:00:14We have a problem.
- 1:00:16But you think that's where it stops?
- 1:00:18No ShamWow there's more.
- 1:00:24The mercury vaporizes.
- 1:00:27Okay, What is what is vaporize?
- 1:00:29Mercury that I have no clue.
- 1:00:31Goes through body armor
- 1:00:34really
- 1:00:36and now becomes microscopic.
- 1:00:39It's metal. Mm.
- 1:00:42That's liquid.
- 1:00:43That's vaporized.
- 1:00:45He goes right through it, not steel plate.
- 1:00:48But you guys don't worship like and neither do I.
- 1:00:51I have them.
- 1:00:52Why the fuck would you wear that? I wear both.
- 1:00:55Well, no, I wear a regular vest, and then I have the trump.
- 1:00:58What?
- 1:00:58Well, I have a I have a I have, what do they call it?
- 1:01:01Spectral Shield. Strong. Great.
- 1:01:02And then on top of that, I have a LED trauma plate
- 1:01:06form for my chest.
- 1:01:08You know what's going to happen when you get hit with that right?
- 1:01:10You'll get the shit knocked out of it. Yeah,
- 1:01:14okay.
- 1:01:16But that's why I have the specter shield.
- 1:01:18Oh, the best way to go.
- 1:01:19I have it in between the the the trauma,
- 1:01:22the the metal trauma plate is on the outside.
- 1:01:25So it's then it's going to the is more than maybe a piece of nice
- 1:01:29little more cushy for a fab work you piece was sure your outer
- 1:01:33metal plate is it a straight metal plate or is it got an anti Spaulding on it.
- 1:01:37What does that mean.
- 1:01:38Oh shit man you may not want that steel plate when you put up.
- 1:01:43When you use the steel plate.
- 1:01:44Okay.
- 1:01:46One you thing it should knock out it. Right.
- 1:01:48But it's not going to penetrate unless you use certain routes. Right.
- 1:01:51Most meat has to use sort of rounds on balancer rounds are pretty safe.
- 1:01:56Problem with that is you now have a ricochet off
- 1:01:59the steel plate is in place to pull your face off.
- 1:02:01Mm hmm.
- 1:02:02That's been a problem.
- 1:02:03Right now.
- 1:02:04You can get they call A.C. BOLLING
- 1:02:08muzzle applying
- 1:02:11rhino liner.
- 1:02:12Yeah. Mine is like a texture material.
- 1:02:15Yeah. Yeah, that's mine. Yes. Okay.
- 1:02:17That when the ball goes in
- 1:02:18and it absorbs it so the fragments don't come fly back out.
- 1:02:22Thank you very much for joining me in this video today.
- 1:02:26I am going through the process
- 1:02:29of getting everything transcribed to the best of my ability.
- 1:02:33You'll probably notice that there were some transcription errors.
- 1:02:36I've done my best, but I'm going through the process
- 1:02:39of transcribing the next part, so I will get this next part
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- 1:03:06Bye bye.
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