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0:00Either the entire Paris police
0:03headquarters should be fired for not
0:05being able to read faces on
0:07surveillance monitors, or they should
0:10have been allowed to come. I think the
0:14second option is completely normal
0:16police incompetence. We are in a
0:19sovereign domain that is at the heart
0:21of sovereignty. You are no longer
0:23sovereign. You are forgetting how to
0:25maintain order. That is normal. In
0:30reality, part of the far left, due to a
0:34phenomenon of ideological senility,
0:37thinks that people who are ready to
0:43beat up coffee makers to steal packets
0:45of cigarettes and then sell Zara on Le
0:48Boncoin after having looted a Decathlon
0:51store, are involved in something other
0:54than basic, pathetic capital
0:56accumulation. And that is where you see
1:00the decline of the French revolutionary
1:01tradition. France is once again shaken
1:08by riots, looting, and scenes of
1:10destruction, given how fractured our
1:11country is. To discuss this, I am
1:14pleased to welcome the president of the
1:15Aristotle circle, Pierre Rougéron, who
1:17is also a regular member of the Popular
1:19Front, of course. Hello Pierre.
1:21>> Hello. Before we address the issue of
1:24these riots, I would like us to come
1:26back to the speech given by our
1:27President of the Republic this Sunday.
1:30In fact, we had scenes of destruction,
1:32we had destruction of property, so a
1:34fairly violent and exceptional
1:36situation, and we had a president who
1:38ultimately gave more of a Prime
1:40Minister's speech. We expected strong
1:43measures and announcements, but got
1:44neither. Why was there such a hollow
1:48speech in the end? Well, I would say
1:51that's an excellent question, and the
1:54problem is that for once, I, I mean,
1:56I'm racking my brains: why did he
1:58impose this on us and why does he know
2:01how to impose this? So, beyond the
2:05immediate pleasure he gets every time
2:08he listens to his own voice, because he
2:11hasn't said anything, if you like, so
2:16I'm willing to admit that Macron has a
2:19wind turbine problem. I mean, Idoline
2:22gives him energy. Anything that moves
2:24is wind. Very good. But maybe it wasn't
2:27the right time to do it because he
2:29appeared, if you like, totally disarmed
2:31, almost at the mercy of the wind. If
2:36he wanted to save his physical presence
2:39in this crisis to make people forget
2:41that he was with Moment shaking his
2:43hips to Seine Dion
2:45>> the day before, you know. You see, if
2:52you like, you see when Nero sets fire
2:54to Rome, you can imagine that there's a
2:56whole set-up, you see, you can imagine
2:58Pasolini. There, we end on a breast
3:01note, it could be worse because we can
3:03still dig deeper. But anyway, if you
3:05want, the apocalypse is already not
3:07great. But then the apocalypse on
3:09Nakamura, that's still going to be a
3:12program and no one knows apart from
3:14assuring us of his physical presence.
3:17The problem is that when you're a real
3:19head of state, you can even show up on
3:20TV and say nothing. The father of the
3:24nation is there. Emmanuel Macron has
3:27long since passed that stage. It's the
3:30best thing he can do, since he has
3:32nothing to say, is to hide. So you see
3:35what he's looking for? Aside from being
3:38childishly at the center of the game by
3:40saying: "Look, I'm still here, it's
3:44still me" because, with his message, he
3:48eclipsed all the presidential
3:50candidates who have become inaudible on
3:52this crisis which is nevertheless a
3:55serious, major crisis. And what does he
3:58have to say? Nothing except, uh, by the
4:00way, I'm here. So the result is that
4:05Emmanuel Macron, as always, responds
4:07only to any problem, "I, me, the world
4:10according to Wam." You see, that's it,
4:15there were only two things missing from
4:17this man: he was a leader and he
4:19remains a state. There you have it. So
4:24if we now address the question of the
4:25damage, to what extent do we do it
4:27because we can clearly see that there
4:29has been a defection of the state, and
4:30the state is not up to the task.
4:32>> Totally
4:33>> to what extent it is simply poor
4:35management linked to competence perhaps
4:38>> or to what extent it is perhaps wilful
4:40cynical mismanagement on the part of
4:42the Ministry of the Interior.
4:44>> Very simple, very simple. The police
4:47force was significantly undersized. We
4:51agree so far We agree so far that this
4:54crisis saw the junction of two main
4:57groups. A hard core of five to eleven
5:02men and all the rest who are still
5:07several thousand who are opportunistic
5:10rioters who followed the first. These 5
5:15to 8,000 men represent two types of
5:17population. At the same time, what I
5:21would call the officers of the rioters
5:23groups coming from the suburbs who had
5:26premeditated their act. We know that
5:30there were applications on phones to
5:32locate the shops to loot. So that is
5:36all premeditation and part of the
5:38violent far left who among other things
5:40set fire to the town hall in the image
5:42and who here represents the blocks. So
5:45the blocks are at least 70%foreigners.
5:50So these people came mainly from
5:52Germany, England and the Netherlands.
5:54Which means, if we do a bit of basic
5:57geographic mapping, that 90%of these
6:00emitters did not come from Paris
6:03intramuros. And so by the video
6:07surveillance and video protection
6:09systems of the RATP and the SNCF, they
6:11were stopped and could be stopped at
6:13any stage of their journey. I would
6:16like to remind you that a significant
6:18number of these people, particularly
6:20the leading group, are on file. This is
6:23the case, for example, of the arsonist
6:25of the Limoges town hall, file S, far
6:26left. Okay. The opportunistic vandals,
6:31for a large part of those who were
6:33thrown at us, are 14-year-old thugs.
6:36They are already linked to drug
6:37trafficking in their city. For the most
6:40part, they are only moderately
6:41registered simply because of their age.
6:45But they are not self-propelled, they
6:48bring the goods to someone. Do you see
6:51what I mean? Good. So, faced with this,
6:56we have an undersized police force, a
6:58far left that, instead of following the
7:01French revolutionary tradition—which
7:04is to crush the lumpen proletaria to
7:07protect the interests of the
7:09proletariat—is one with the rabble,
7:12to the point of making the demands of
7:15social movements, which are otherwise
7:18entirely legitimate, inaudible; but it
7:22plays its part of creating chaos that
7:25the government expects it to play to
7:27the end. The 10th government poses as a
7:31centrist element by saying: "You see,
7:36it's either me or the boss" game, when
7:39it's the one who let them come. Because
7:45, there are two possibilities, Lune,
7:47Bertrand: either we have to fire the
7:49entire Paris police headquarters for
7:52not knowing how to read faces on
7:54surveillance monitors, or we let them
7:56come. I think the second option is the
8:00one because at some point, as Bonaparte
8:05said, stupidity has no limits, but
8:07treachery does. So, for me, this is
8:11what happened: a combination of a
8:14circumstantial event, which is
8:16political manipulation, thanks to which
8:19Mr. Mélenchon wallowed, as one wallows
8:22in the mire, and which the apathetic
8:24nature of the right-wing opposition
8:27only serves to completely highlight, a
8:30apathy that relies on police
8:34incompetence, which is completely
8:36normal. We are in a sovereign domain
8:39that is at the heart of sovereignty.
8:41You are no longer sovereign. You are
8:43forgetting how to maintain order. That
8:47is normal. What is the point of
8:51maintaining order in a country where
8:52there can no longer be any structural
8:54order, given that the country no longer
8:56belongs to itself? As a result, in the
8:58first generation, you still have elders
9:01who know how to do a bit, and by the
9:02second generation even less. And now,
9:05we are in the third generation of civil
9:07servants who no longer understand
9:08sovereignty. So, if you like, what do
9:10you want them to do? Well, they are
9:12making up their minds on a wooden leg.
9:15>> And the resignation of Laurent Nugèz,
9:18which precisely followed these events,
9:20for you, is it just theater or is it
9:22really the expression of regret for
9:24incompetence? I would not bet my vital
9:28or reproductive parts on Laugnè's
9:31sincerity. Who are we talking about? We
9:36are talking about, as you know, Mr.
9:38Vals 'former agent first and foremost.
9:42Which means that the good Mr. Nunz, in
9:44various positions, at the Paris police
9:46headquarters and elsewhere, managed the
9:51violent movements that the constabulary
9:53forces sometimes had against social
9:55movements and managed their resignation
9:58in the face of the riff-raff. So, on
10:01October 17, Mr. Nunz did nothing but
10:04manage the lumpen proletariat against
10:07the proletariat, which he has never
10:10stopped doing. He was just told it was
10:14his final lap because a lamp post was
10:17needed, so I await his reassignment,
10:19which will surely happen soon. That is
10:23not responsibility. Okay. So, I am not
10:28asking him to perform a ritual sepou,
10:30but to stop this very bad street
10:32theater.
10:34>> So, these scenes of violence,
10:36destruction, riots, we can call them
10:38what we want, but are they
10:40representative of the state of France
10:42today or, to put it another way, is it
10:44not also a distorting media mirror?
10:47What do you think of the media coverage
10:49of these subjects?
10:50>> Ah, but the journalists were very, very
10:53happy, if you like, let's be very
10:55simple. If these riots had not happened
11:00, we would have been forced to talk
11:03about the social movement. And all of a
11:07sudden, that would have pissed everyone
11:09off. It would have pissed off Mr.
11:12Mélenchon because Mr. Mélenchon has
11:13nothing to say to the social movement.
11:16Mr. Mélenchon wants to keep the system
11:19as it is and so sides with the
11:21executioners of these people. The
11:24National Rally is relatively happy
11:27because now it can rightly dope on the
11:30ethnic riots, which allows it to avoid
11:33spreading its economic program, which
11:35is spreading itself because here again,
11:38they want to continue the same trends
11:41thinking that they will have different
11:44effects. The extreme center can say "I
11:49am the republican order." And the
11:53Servville journalists in their pay can
11:55say that they have images to give to
11:57the entire world to drag France through
11:59the mud. Very well. Here, no one is
12:05really questioning the degree of
12:07incompetence, but especially the degree
12:09of structural incompetence. How is it
12:14that in law enforcement agencies, we
12:17have been selecting one idiot after
12:20another for 30 years? The last guy who
12:26was able to maintain law and order in
12:28France was called Charles Pasqu. Does
12:31that remind us, right? Good. So how is
12:35it that idiots follow one another and
12:39copy each other? No one wants to ask
12:44the question. No one wants to ask the
12:46question of troops of police officers
12:48who have forgotten their job, which is
12:49normal. They can no longer receive
12:52orders since no one has mastered the
12:54rule of law anymore because there are
12:55no more rules. As a result, the police
12:57are becoming suppressors of protests.
13:02The problem is that when an army
13:07maintains order, it forgets how to
13:09fight and loses something unusual, like
13:13the French army in 1870. When a police
13:16force forgets how to be a police
13:19officer by beating up yellow vests or
13:22peasants, it is not ready to confront
13:25the rabble. Unfortunately, that is what
13:29should have made journalists tick. But
13:33no, journalists tick according to the
13:34speech that the government needs to
13:36hear, that is to say: "Phew, thank you
13:38to our broadcasters", that way, we can
13:40talk about other things than the real
13:41state of the country.
13:45>> If we talk about social movements, if
13:46we talk about the times linked to
13:48social movements, there are some
13:49comments that make commentators, excuse
13:51me, draw a parallel with the events of
13:53May 68. So to what extent do you think
13:54this parallel is justified or not?
13:57>> Ah, so, uh, I have no affection for, uh
14:00, how can I say, this, uh, this pimply,
14:04teenage Bacanal who wears 68 that
14:07Olivier Germain Thomas called and this
14:11ideological flea market, but I don't
14:15remember the ethnic delinquency. Maybe
14:19I didn't look at the right photos, but
14:21I don't remember it very well. In
14:25reality, part of the far left, through
14:29a phenomenon of ideological senility,
14:32thinks that people who are ready to
14:38beat up coffee makers and soda sellers
14:41to screw things up, or pharmacies to
14:45steal packets of cigarettes and then
14:49resell them on Le Bon Coin du Zara
14:52after having, uh, looted a Decathlon,
14:56are into something other than a basic,
15:00pathetic, parasitic capitalist
15:03accumulation. And that's where you see
15:07the decline of the French revolutionary
15:09tradition. So precisely in relation to
15:11the revolution, you have certain
15:13members of the LFI in particular and
15:15you also have, I'm thinking of the
15:17lawyer Ran Branco, who spoke precisely,
15:19who justifies the ransacking, the
15:21destruction of public property in the
15:23name of the revolutionary ideal. Is
15:26this a revolutionary horizon?
15:28>> No, the real French revolutionaries, we
15:30agree that they were in the 19th
15:31century, right? Let's take the example
15:34of a guy like Louis Blanc. Louis Blanc,
15:35he spent a third of his life in prison.
15:37Okay. There, we are in the realm of
15:39revolution. Okay. The French
15:43revolutionaries wanted to avoid war
15:44between the little guys at all costs.
15:47Okay? Here, you have authentically
15:51productive forces that were struck by
15:54people who are not productive. Whether
15:57we like it or not, these emitters
15:58belong to the lumpen and the lumpen
16:00must be crushed. I'm going to advertise
16:04a great crusher of the lumpen who was
16:06Lenin. You know, during the October
16:10Revolution, there were people who
16:12wanted to join the rabble, and they
16:14were horrible rabble, given that they
16:16were orphaned teenagers from the First
16:18World War who had banded together as
16:20rapists and pillagers. Enin, so that
16:24society would not reject the revolution
16:26, crushed them with the utmost violence
16:29. Bolshevik violence, believe me, is
16:32not the most complete form of Charlism.
16:36The revolutionary tradition hates these
16:39people because no revolution can keep
16:41up with these parasites. That's why the
16:46government lets them do it, that it
16:48uses them, because you will never again
16:51trust a social movement that destroys
16:53poor women who ran pharmacies on
16:55Boulevard Voltaire, where they tried to
16:57do their job well and where they lost
17:00everything. No one can justify that.
17:05There you have it. Our job is to allow
17:10the state to protect the weak. These
17:16people have never harmed anyone. They
17:19are in no way a capitalist symbol of
17:21power. Not at all. If our leftist
17:25broadcasters had wanted a symbol of
17:27oppression, they would have set up the
17:29premises of the European Parliament in
17:30Paris next to the National Assembly,
17:32but then they wouldn't have let you get
17:34close. There you would have been met
17:37with thousands of cops with orders to
17:39knock your teeth out. Now, you have
17:42your symbol of oppression, but you
17:44didn't even think to approach it. Do
17:46you know why? If my memory serves me
17:49well, I'm not certified in Parisian
17:51localism. But I don't think there's a
17:53Decathlon nearby. It's
17:58>> true that what's interesting in what
17:59you're saying, and you're just pointing
18:01it out, is that today we've somewhat
18:02forgotten what the demands were because
18:04at first we were talking about high
18:05school students, so we shouldn't go
18:07back that far,
18:08>> and today no one remembers what the
18:10high school students were asking for,
18:11>> and thank you, riffraff.
18:13>> And we're talking about the yellow
18:14vests. We don't really know either. We
18:16know that there will be a new
18:17demonstration on October 24th if you do
18:19.
18:19>> Yes. So under total social suspicion,
18:21thanks to whom? Thanks to our friends
18:23the scum and our leftist friends who
18:25have made the connection with the scum.
18:26Thank you very much by the way.
18:29>> And for you, is it precisely this
18:31famous scum you mention? Because we can
18:35feel that various sections of society
18:37are demonstrating, more or less
18:38together or apart—yellow vests,
18:40farmers, students, unions, and youth
18:42from the suburbs—and we have the
18:44feeling that we are witnessing more of
18:46a partition than a union. Is it a
18:49feeling? It depends on who? It depends
18:52on who. The problematic extras are the
18:54suburbanites. I am honest in saying it.
18:56But why? Not because they are suburban,
18:58but being unproductive. Then tell me
19:01about high schoolers. High school
19:03students have to integrate into the
19:05production process and since they are
19:07denied a future, they don't think they
19:09will be able to do so. Reason. Okay.
19:14Productive farmers, productive workers,
19:16productive employees, part of the
19:18suburban umpen proletariat, they don't
19:20want to be productive, they want to
19:22profit from the production of others.
19:25How do you expect there to be a
19:25confluence with these people? In the
19:28first yellow vests, there were a lot of
19:30yellow vest officers and
19:31non-commissioned officers who were
19:33workers from suburban immigrants. But
19:36they were workers. And by the way, what
19:41I'm telling you is obvious to anyone
19:43who was involved in the yellow vest
19:45movement in Paris, especially in Paris,
19:47have you seen them? Do you remember?
19:51Have you seen them? No, you haven't
19:53seen them. And yet, there were a lot of
19:55these descendants of immigrants. Why
19:56didn't you see them? Because they were
19:58in unison with the others. They were
20:00wearing yellow vests and so you didn't
20:03notice them because they were part of
20:05the social movement. The problem here
20:10is that since the student movement is
20:13totally manipulated by a section of the
20:16far-left's scum, we force these kids
20:19who are kids. They know that something
20:23is wrong, but they can't verbalize it.
20:26Reform is an adult act. We are still a
20:30civilization sick enough to blame
20:32everything since Covid on the kids. And
20:36the problem is that by using them, you
20:38make them one with the lumpen
20:40proletariat movement that destroys them
20:43, that destroys them, that physically
20:45attacks them and that discredits them
20:48politically. And then, you're going to
20:51tell me that you didn't do it on
20:52purpose. OK? That is to say that you
20:57did all this by chance. Well, I mean,
21:00chance is very useful to you. You
21:03should really play, huh?
21:06>> If we take a closer look at this
21:08proletarian wolf of Branlieu, there is
21:11the question of immigration,
21:14>> of course. I
21:15>> also have a question for myself: is
21:18this not a precursor among many others,
21:20ultimately the collapse of our
21:22civilization? In other words, the end
21:26of homo-Occidentalism, as Jérôme
21:28Fourqu says in his latest book, which
21:31would also explain why this social
21:33movement seems to be spreading to other
21:35Western countries. Well,
21:41>> I am going to, how should I put it,
21:44take a slight step aside from your
21:46question for one simple reason, which
21:48is that I have not yet had the book in
21:50question in my hands. So I'm not
21:53judging it by its cover. Let's be quite
21:58simple. Declining civilizations are
22:03ultimately based on apathy and
22:06obedience. Okay? Which in a
22:11civilization of freedom and prometheism
22:13, which is ours, is profoundly terrible
22:18because it is not our usual way of life
22:23. Okay? We must have fallen very low to
22:26be there. There are civilizations that
22:28live by obedience. There is one not far
22:32from us on the other side of the
22:34Mediterranean where obedience is more,
22:37more, how can I say, more, put forward
22:39and it is entirely their right. It is
22:41their, their social vaadom. For us, a
22:47state is strong when it manages to
22:50maintain the maximum freedom within it.
22:54That is the definition in our deepest
22:56thought of a strong state. Okay. So for
23:00us, strength is a condition of freedom
23:02and it is a relationship if you like,
23:04it is a feedback loop. Strength makes
23:06freedom, freedom makes strength. Do we
23:08agree? Well here, we are in the midst
23:12of the cult of weakness. That is to say
23:18, we are terrified by what? by gangs
23:20who send us 14-year-old brats and our
23:25cops back down because the hierarchy
23:30will let them go if they ever run wild,
23:32which they do not hesitate to do when
23:34faced with the productive forces. Moral
23:37: the enemy of power is the producer.
23:41An old collusion between the scum at
23:43the top and the scum at the bottom, who
23:45today, by the way, have more or less
23:47the same habitus. Hey, it was Nicolas
23:50Sarkozy who had a vocabulary of 250
23:51words, which is the average vocabulary
23:53of the average suburbanite. Give or
23:56take a few words. Now, the problem is
24:00that this decivilization comes from the
24:03uprooted who are at once the drivers,
24:06victims and factors of this
24:08decivilization desired by others.
24:12Because whether we like it or not, it
24:14is the elite oligarchy that wanted it.
24:17Whether she made them aware or not, she
24:19found her interest. And the problem is
24:23that since we are not doing anything to
24:26crush this problematic social group, it
24:30is starting to spread, just like you
24:33spread cancer powder, a reverse
24:36acculturation that we could call a kind
24:39of weshistant, if you know what I mean,
24:43a weshistant of social groups. Which is
24:47just as serious, or whatever you call
24:49it, a socialization, which is just as
24:51serious because it is a reverse
24:53assimilation. That is to say, since we
24:57have not managed to break the uprooted,
24:59they are in the process of uprooting a
25:00whole section of the indigenous social
25:02groups that are in contact with them.
25:06And that is a real threat to us because
25:10for a large part of these parasitic
25:13groups, the only response is military
25:15or police. That is not serious, we know
25:17that. But those deculturated,
25:21dumbed-down people, it's not a crime to
25:24have been deculturated like that.
25:28Justice would like us to re-root them.
25:30That is a program in itself. And
25:34re-root them to what, given that we
25:35live in hatred of our roots? That is a
25:38real question. And there, there is a
25:41civilizational problem, I agree with
25:43you, which weighs on the whole of
25:45Western Europe. The Americans are still
25:48for the moment, I repeat for the moment
25:51, not completely protected, but let's
25:53be honest, you are doing the same thing
25:56to them as they did to us last Saturday
25:58. Uh, the scum against their dead. You
26:03just have to know the procedures for
26:05engaging in fire by the American police
26:07, I mean, and the procedure for
26:09engaging in fire by a European citizen
26:11or an American citizen authorized to
26:13defend themselves. So we have to help
26:18people get back on their feet, help
26:21organizations get back on their feet,
26:23help institutions get back on their
26:25feet, and once that's done, we're not
26:27facing a criminal army, Bertrand. We're
26:30not in the Philippines, we're not in El
26:32Salvador. We're dealing with very small
26:37things. It's crushed underfoot. The
26:41problem is that we live on skates, we
26:43live in boots.
26:46>> But how do you explain that these
26:48second-and third-generation children
26:50from immigrants are probably less
26:52integrated than their parents?
26:55>> Well, it's very simple. First of all,
26:57for the most part, forgive me. Oh, I
26:59know that, and you didn't draw it out.
27:02Would you allow me to clarify your
27:04question?
27:05>> Go ahead, please.
27:07>> These children of Arab-Muslim and
27:09sub-Saharan African immigrants, if you
27:12like, they don't come from the 13th
27:17arrondissement. They are not part of
27:19the million Asians who live in France.
27:20If you want to take a moment, it is not
27:23all immigrants who are the problem. At
27:26some point, we have to stop this stupid
27:28essentialism that is defetish anyway.
27:30>> Yes. Since there are also emigrants,
27:33descendants of 2nd and 3rd generation
27:36immigrants, of course, and worse, who
27:38have been
27:40>> victims of it. You have North African
27:42shopkeepers and shopkeepers from
27:44sub-Saharan Africa who have seen the
27:46business that is their life's work
27:47crushed before their eyes by cops
27:49telling them on the phone, one, do not
27:51defend yourselves and two, do not count
27:53on us. Okay? I am thinking of these
27:57people, because they have assimilated
27:59themselves through the productive force
28:00, whatever one may think. If you like,
28:03I don't buy into the disabling Camusian
28:06myth that counts cabbages, carrots,
28:10beets and turnips, and that, in the end
28:11, tells you that there are too many of
28:13them. Yes, they are, if you like, a
28:15minority and problematic by problematic
28:18minority that you solve a problem.
28:20Otherwise, you come across 100 million
28:22people and then you drop your pants.
28:26Which is, by the way, a whole rhetoric
28:28of the radical right for years that, in
28:31the end, will never lead to anything,
28:33because you make the problem
28:35psychologically unfathomable and
28:37insoluble. Because then, all of a
28:40sudden, you say: "Yes, but there are
28:41100 million, 15 million, 20 million of
28:43them", and then you have a stroke and
28:44they'll resuscitate you in the
28:45emergency room. Ah well, the Kaïde is
28:47handsome. There you have it, there's
28:49the problem. Once you know that there
28:51are certain minorities that are causing
28:53problems, what happened during the
28:54affiliation? 1. What are you going to
28:57assimilate them to? Since they hear
28:59from the people who bring them here
29:01that France doesn't exist, that there
29:03are no more French states because they
29:05are the ones who disarmed it and that
29:07the French are a people of colonialists
29:09and collaborators and therefore we can
29:12do anything to them. Do anything to
29:14them. That's the logic of quaternary
29:17anti-racism from Jack Lang to Gabriel
29:20Atal. Okay. Good. 1 2 We sold them so
29:23much about the host country that the
29:25sending country is so good that they
29:27don't know it anymore because they talk
29:29to you about the bled, they never set
29:31foot there and we sold them through
29:33school programs. I remind you of the
29:35program of the sending country and so
29:36on where we taught them to remain who
29:38they are. Magidukacha talks about it
29:40very well and the result is that the
29:42memory of the uprooted tells them that
29:44the bled is so much better, especially
29:46since they never set foot there. And
29:49the final point is that
29:50>> they aren't always welcomed back there,
29:52are they?
29:52>> And they are not very well regarded
29:53when they return there. And last point,
29:56we have, through socialism, urban
29:58politics and the widespread
29:59racketeering of the productive forces,
30:01because urban politics is this: they
30:03have been sold Westistan, that is to
30:05say, you have a culture of American
30:06ghetto gangsters, whereas, I'll tell
30:08you right away, the American ghetto
30:10gangster is worth a little more than
30:12that, if you like. That's the
30:14difference between great American hip
30:15hop and the adobe that is French rap.
30:17It's that when Touac makes a song
30:18called Forbelet, it's because he took
30:20four bullets in the skin. Uh uh the
30:23French rapper, apart from beating up
30:24little monkeys, I don't really see, I
30:26don't really see what risk he's taking.
30:29You know what I mean? So the result is
30:32that you get these Wish-brand gangsters
30:34, who in the end are just little shits
30:36acting tough. And since we don't dare
30:40react in a sovereign, vertical, adult
30:42state, that is to say, first treat them
30:45pedagogically, so slap them, which
30:48would save them from third parties.
30:51Then tell them if you like blade so
30:53much, we're going to send you back
30:54because there's no reason for you to be
30:56dishonest and unhappy. If you're
31:00unhappy here, our charter schedule will
31:02be sent. Let's part ways as good
31:05friends. Well, we don't do that because
31:06we no longer have very good control of
31:08the borders. And if you want, we won't
31:12end up treating them like police
31:14officers, which we won't do because of
31:16the rule of law, community law and
31:18human rights. So, the result is you had
31:20three chances to save him. Out of
31:23weakness, you didn't take them. Well,
31:25as a result, any ple that isn't
31:27disinfected ends up being rotten and
31:29rotting away, you're there. And
31:32>> precisely what makes a people is partly
31:34adhesion, you know. There are many
31:36things that make a people, but it's
31:38partly an adhesion to common values.
31:40And we seem to feel today that this
31:41foundation is in the process of being
31:43eroded because on the one hand we have
31:45the cultists of republicanism who are
31:47going to talk to us about republican
31:49values, more or less
31:50>> human dignity.
31:51>> There you have it. Well, in short, I
31:52understand who I'm talking about.
31:53>> Yeah, I see exactly. Yeah. On the other
31:55hand, you have these young people from
31:57the suburbs who seem somewhat
31:58impervious to the laws, to these famous
31:59laws of the Republic or to the cultural
32:01and political values of our country. So
32:03is this the end of these values or does
32:05it mean that these values are not
32:06strong enough to survive on their own?
32:08>> Wait, wait, in a republican system,
32:10there are no values, there are virtues.
32:13Okay? Values are what fluctuate by
32:16nature. So as a result, you are going
32:19to sell them values that you do not
32:21feel. Roughly speaking, you are selling
32:24encyclopedias door to door to the
32:26uneducated. In other words, you are
32:29selling knowledge that you do not have
32:31to people who do not need it and who
32:32are too stupid to have access to it,
32:33right? So you sell, you are a sales rep
32:37in terms of value, so you sell values
32:39to people who don't want them, values
32:41that you spit on by the way. And they
32:44have heard you spit on these values all
32:47the time. They have heard you say that
32:49France is. And in the end, they
32:51have you and in the end they have
32:54responded in kind. Okay. In reality,
33:00they are completely unassimilated to
33:01France, I agree with you, but they are
33:03completely assimilated to anti-France.
33:05That is a successful assimilation. Well
33:08, see what is the real problem, that is
33:12that you no longer have, how to say,
33:15you no longer feel the necessary
33:21virtues. You no longer feel them and in
33:25the end you end up with speeches of
33:27quavering scholasticism. Human dignity,
33:31human rights, the values of the
33:33Republic and all that, but the term
33:35Republic, my dear friend, has never
33:36recovered from having been used by
33:38Manuel Valls. You know, great ideas are
33:43like great men. Cardinal de Red said
33:46that great men are often great reasons
33:49for little geniuses. And great ideas,
33:52truly great ideas, are the ones that
33:54people kill for, the ones that people
33:56die for. The Republic was an idea like
33:59that. Freedom is an idea like that.
34:03They never recover from having been
34:05sullied by a certain type of man. Today
34:08, the term Republic is completely at
34:10odds with the betrayal of people like
34:12Jean-Pierre Chavenement and the cynical
34:14use of it by people like Macron, Val,
34:16and Soital. The term Republic is no
34:19longer worth anything to anyone today.
34:22It's a political word that needs to be
34:24completely rethought, that needs to be
34:26completely updated to start creating
34:28the remarkable type of man that it has
34:30created for centuries. Today, we
34:33shouldn't be talking about the Republic
34:34. And I was, I am, a republican, a
34:37Robespirist, whatever you want. I was
34:39raised in the cult of the Third
34:40Republic, in the cult of the French
34:41Revolution. There's no problem with
34:43that. The only thing is that you're
34:46going to tell me that when you pull on
34:48Robespierre's thread, you end up with
34:50Éric Cockrel. You're kidding me.
34:53You're kidding me.
34:54>> Antoine Léoman.
34:55>> Yes. So here, we were talking about the
34:58cult of weakness. So you see what I
35:00mean, here we have to talk about France
35:03and the most distant roots of France to
35:06tell all these people here that this is
35:09how we live or where we're going. And
35:14what I'm telling you is not invincible
35:16ignorance. All countries do this. Okay?
35:21And to do that, we have to be clear
35:23about our historical identity, our
35:26religious identity, our project
35:28identity. We must not adopt a
35:31backward-looking approach, which is an
35:32approach that goes against the soul of
35:34our people. We have to say, look, we
35:38come from here, we intend to go there,
35:41and if you are on our land, either you
35:43participate, or you are someone else
35:45and you respect our laws, or you get
35:48out. Every country in the world does
35:50this. I lived as an immigrant. I know
35:54exactly how people addressed me. And as
35:58General de Gaulle said, a good
35:59immigrant lives with his suitcase at
36:01the foot of his bed. I lived with my
36:03suitcase packed at the foot of my bed.
36:05Period. That's how you are someone else
36:08among people. Otherwise, you want to
36:10join the family, and when you join the
36:11family, you respect the rules.
36:14>> So, this will be my last question on
36:16the immigration aspect, but we
36:17assimilate people, we do not assimilate
36:19peoples. Weren't we a little wrong to
36:22neglect the ethnic aspect, the tribal
36:24aspect of the people we welcomed en
36:27masse? So the problem is that we wanted
36:30to take it into account by liquidating
36:33the assimilationist system by trying an
36:35Anglo-Saxon system. For these
36:38populations, both systems have failed.
36:40A typical case is the English case or
36:42the American case. I remind you that
36:44there are less than 2%of Muslims in the
36:46United States and that they are
36:48generally concentrated mainly in the
36:49Brooklyn area and they pose problems
36:51even though they are very few in number
36:53. So if you want both systems, take the
36:56opposite case of East Asia, both
36:58systems have succeeded. You can
37:01assimilate them into the French system
37:02or assimilate them into the community
37:03model. Both systems have succeeded. Why
37:07? Because these populations wanted it.
37:09There you have it. So if you want,
37:11there is a criterion of admissibility
37:14and population. So you will tell me "
37:16Yes, but then we had to take only
37:18Europeans." I remind the insincere that
37:21we expelled more than a third of the
37:23Spanish and a third of the Italians. It
37:27is the largest remigration in the
37:28history of France, carried out by
37:30Europeans who did not assimilate, plus
37:32the Poles who were expelled for the
37:33same reasons. And I will say it right
37:36away, the assimilation of the peoples
37:38of Eastern Europe, you only have to
37:40look at our prison statistics compared
37:42to their numbers in France, they do not
37:44assimilate and they are today a public
37:46threat. I would remind you that between
37:49the Bulgarians, the Albanians, the
37:50Romanians, they are among the nine
37:52minorities most represented in prison.
37:54Okay? So these people do not assimilate
37:57here and the Ukrainians will not do so
37:58either. Today, if you want to find a
38:03Chinese descendant in prison in France,
38:04there must be four or five, if I
38:06remember correctly. Since the
38:07statistics...we don't have the
38:09statistics of origin, but we do have
38:10statistics of sending countries for
38:12foreigners and...there are...there are
38:13extremely few of them, and you're more
38:15likely to find them among the prison
38:17guards. In this case, you can see, it's
38:19a bit like the Portuguese, it's where
38:21you can see what worked, what failed.
38:24So we gave up on our model and we
38:27wanted to talk about it to people who
38:31arrived with their culture and who have
38:34it between them. At first, we didn't
38:37dictate it but we told them so many
38:39times that they could do it that they
38:41ended up doing it. Which is the
38:43difference between the old Shibanis who
38:45walked in the shadows and their
38:47grandchildren who spit in your face.
38:50Okay. In the meantime, they gained
38:52confidence because we told them that OK
38:54. So, as a result, the only way today
39:00is to take into account that there is a
39:03whole section of this immigration,
39:05which is what we have always said. I
39:09would like to remind you that when
39:10there were still some hard-line
39:12nationalists in certain right-wing
39:13parties, we talked about reversing
39:14migration flows. This avoids the
39:16stupidity of the term remigration. Does
39:20reversing migration flows make it a
39:22political fact? You think remigration
39:24is the opposite of emigration? It's a
39:26natural phenomenon. They arrive and
39:28leave like birds, if you like. That's
39:31why it's a system that hasn't been
39:32thought out. The reversal of migration
39:35flows has been considered since the
39:361980s. Anthropological and ethnic
39:39issues, I'm sorry, all the immigration
39:41specialists who were all sovereignists
39:43since the 1990s, among the critics,
39:45whether they were left-wing
39:47sovereignists or right-wing
39:48sovereignists or republican
39:50sovereignists like Michel Tribala, we
39:52put, we put, if you like, they were the
39:54first, they were the only ones. I'm
39:57thinking of Yve Marie Loland, I'm
39:58thinking of Jacques Dupquier, I'm
40:00thinking of Jean-Paul Gourville, I'm
40:01thinking of everyone who belongs to the
40:03entire spectrum, they had all announced
40:09their colors, if you like. It's not
40:11invincible ignorance. Paul Lyonnais, in
40:13Journey to the Center of French
40:15Discontent, foresaw all. So if you like
40:17, it's not invincible ignorance. The
40:20problem is that we started from a
40:23principle that part of the post-French
40:26left and part of post-French liberalism
40:32wanted to use immigration for reasons
40:34of employers and cultural hatred
40:37against the native people. To this were
40:40added agencies, I am thinking of Simade
40:42, I am thinking of many others who have
40:44historical disputes with France under
40:48the guise of humanism. Okay? And in the
40:53end, all this abundance of goodwill
40:55that wanted to use immigration as a
40:57battering ram to bring us down has
41:00meant that today immigrants are
41:02becoming independent and some of them
41:04are acting in conquered countries. You
41:07have the Bakayoko case which was
41:08obvious to me. Okay, so were we wrong
41:13or was it what we wanted? If you like,
41:17I find it hard to believe, Bertrand,
41:19that such intelligent people do not
41:22understand the principle of
41:24non-missibility, or else they have
41:26never poured oil on water. I don't
41:29think they are stupid enough.

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