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Pierre Bourdieu et Jean-Claude Passeron. Vigilance épistémologique et pratique sociologique [1966] — Transcript

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  1. 0:34We therefore assert that sociology is a
  2. 0:36science like any other, and that it
  3. 0:38faces particular difficulties because
  4. 0:40there is a tendency to deny its right
  5. 0:43to be a science like the others. And
  6. 0:46this is true, fundamentally, at the
  7. 0:48three levels where scientific practice
  8. 0:50operates—that is, as Bachelard told
  9. 0:53us, at the level where the scientific
  10. 0:55fact must be conquered, at the level
  11. 0:57where it must be constructed. And at
  12. 1:00the level where it must be tested, put
  13. 1:01to the test of the facts. We have, uh,
  14. 1:05asserted against the illusion of
  15. 1:07transparency that sociology must be an
  16. 1:10experimental science at the level of
  17. 1:13the construction of the fact. I must
  18. 1:16now assert against the positivist
  19. 1:19illusion that one simply needs to
  20. 1:21observe facts—that is, that facts are
  21. 1:24given data. We must now assert that
  22. 1:27sociology is, or perhaps should be, a
  23. 1:30theoretical science. Yes, there are
  24. 1:34indeed a whole host of reasons that
  25. 1:37converge to incite the sociologist
  26. 1:39toward the illusion of observation,
  27. 1:41that is, the illusion that their object
  28. 1:44is given to them, all ready-made,
  29. 1:47prepared in reality itself. Before
  30. 1:52examining these various incitements, or
  31. 1:55the illusion of observation, we should
  32. 1:58perhaps try to define what the notion
  33. 2:01of construction means in the specific
  34. 2:05case of sociology. And for that, I
  35. 2:09believe a single example would suffice.
  36. 2:13Uh, the daily experience of the social
  37. 2:15gives us, in a scattered order,
  38. 2:18phenomena such as listening to the
  39. 2:20radio, watching television, attending a
  40. 2:23concert, visiting a museum,
  41. 2:25understanding someone else's language,
  42. 2:27or understanding the civilization of
  43. 2:30another society or individuals
  44. 2:32belonging to another cultural tradition
  45. 2:35. Uh, and so many other phenomena:
  46. 2:38cultural borrowing, the fact for
  47. 2:39instance that one civilization borrows
  48. 2:41a way of life or a tool from another,
  49. 2:43and so on. All these phenomena, deeply
  50. 2:47separated at the phenomenal level—
  51. 2:49that is, at the level of common
  52. 2:52perception of the social—seem to me
  53. 2:54to constitute one single constructed
  54. 2:57object. Well, this constructed object
  55. 3:00could, for example, be called "culture,
  56. 3:03" meaning that in every case, whether
  57. 3:05it involves understanding a work of art
  58. 3:07or understanding an individual from a
  59. 3:10foreign civilization, it is a matter of
  60. 3:12engaging a mediation, of engaging a
  61. 3:14code, for example, to use a simple term
  62. 3:17, which is what allows for the
  63. 3:18deciphering of that work. Well, we see
  64. 3:22here an example of the construction of
  65. 3:25objects that links sociology to the
  66. 3:27constructions of objects carried out in
  67. 3:30physical science. And to a certain
  68. 3:34extent, in the same way—and I do mean
  69. 3:36to a certain extent, and all other
  70. 3:38things being equal—in the same way
  71. 3:40that Newton brought together phenomena
  72. 3:42that were phenomenally separate, namely
  73. 3:45the falling of bodies, the movement of
  74. 3:47planets, and the motion of a projectile
  75. 3:49. Likewise, the sociologist ceases to
  76. 3:53be the object, or rather, to be
  77. 3:55manipulated in a way by their object.
  78. 3:59They cease to let their object be
  79. 4:01imposed upon them by objective reality
  80. 4:03when they substitute a theory, let's
  81. 4:05say, of communication for the pure and
  82. 4:07simple description of phenomena as
  83. 4:09disparate as those I have listed. Yes,
  84. 4:13always with this difference: that it is
  85. 4:16infinitely more difficult to perceive
  86. 4:18and, above all, to implement the
  87. 4:20distinction between the real object,
  88. 4:22the object that presents itself to
  89. 4:24perception, and the object constructed
  90. 4:26through theoretical work, for example
  91. 4:28in sociology, than in other sciences.
  92. 4:32In other words, it would hardly be
  93. 4:34worth the trouble, if we were talking
  94. 4:36about the natural sciences, to show
  95. 4:37that the physicist does not work on
  96. 4:39objects of perception and that they
  97. 4:41construct them in a break from objects
  98. 4:43of perception. This has been done since
  99. 4:46the 16th century, for example, in the
  100. 4:47history of physical science. But the
  101. 4:49problem that concerns us is precisely
  102. 4:51that in sociology, everyone is
  103. 4:53convinced that these are easily
  104. 4:55recognizable objects. People take
  105. 4:57vacations, there are young people, and
  106. 4:58that causes problems because the young
  107. 5:00people are delinquents. In any case,
  108. 5:01there are young delinquents. These
  109. 5:04objects that present themselves
  110. 5:05directly, and above all that present
  111. 5:07themselves with all the weight of these
  112. 5:10phenomena appearing as social problems,
  113. 5:12urgent social problems to be solved,
  114. 5:14mean that since they are social
  115. 5:16problems, public demand tends basically
  116. 5:18to pass them to the sociologist as a
  117. 5:20sociological object. It is the
  118. 5:22confusion between social problems and
  119. 5:24objects of sociological study. We must
  120. 5:26state quite strongly that social
  121. 5:27problems are not, as such, the
  122. 5:29constructed objects of sociological
  123. 5:31work and explanation. Yes. So, it is an
  124. 5:34entire set of preconstructed objects
  125. 5:36that have received a social definition,
  126. 5:38and which sociology can, moreover,
  127. 5:40account for, that social reality
  128. 5:42proposes to the sociologist. That is to
  129. 5:46say, social reality advances toward the
  130. 5:49sociologist with, in a sense, the
  131. 5:52pretension of holding its own theory.
  132. 5:56That is why the break, uh, with this
  133. 5:58theory, uh, which is in a way inherent
  134. 6:00to social reality, requires a
  135. 6:02theoretical show of force, well, much
  136. 6:04more, uh, difficult, it seems to us, in
  137. 6:06the context of sociology, which is
  138. 6:08difficult in the sense that it, uh, it
  139. 6:11perhaps does not require, well, that
  140. 6:13heroism which is the break with
  141. 6:15Euclidean geometry in non-Euclidean
  142. 6:17geometries. Not as striking a break
  143. 6:18from a theoretical point of view, but
  144. 6:20it is a break that is always being
  145. 6:21restarted. And I believe that here, we
  146. 6:23should talk about language because if
  147. 6:25the break with spontaneous sociology,
  148. 6:27the effort to construct properly
  149. 6:28sociological problems, we are never
  150. 6:30done with it once and for all. That is
  151. 6:32to say that in all work, at all moments
  152. 6:34of a research project, one must
  153. 6:36constantly call into question the ideas
  154. 6:38on which one thinks, the words one uses
  155. 6:41to think, and so on. Uh, it is because
  156. 6:43the task of breaking and constructing,
  157. 6:45uh, is a task that in sociology, uh,
  158. 6:47must always be restarted against the
  159. 6:49infiltrations of spontaneous sociology
  160. 6:51which happen through language. Language
  161. 6:53being here the instrument of this
  162. 6:54infiltration of spontaneous sociology
  163. 6:56into scholarly discourse.
  164. 6:57Yes. So, and scholarly discourse takes
  165. 6:59on a certain number of categories for
  166. 7:01dividing up reality. For example, uh,
  167. 7:04there exists a division of sociological
  168. 7:07labor, uh, according to the categories
  169. 7:09of sociology of work, sociology of
  170. 7:12leisure, sociology of modern means of
  171. 7:14communication, and so on. So many
  172. 7:17objects that are common to common sense
  173. 7:18and to science, which should be in a
  174. 7:20break with common sense. It is a bit as
  175. 7:23if one were to claim, in the physical
  176. 7:25sciences, that the true classification
  177. 7:27of the physical sciences is made
  178. 7:29between selenography, oceanography,
  179. 7:30geography, through to earth sciences,
  180. 7:32for example, that is to say according
  181. 7:34to real objects which, as such, would
  182. 7:36belong properly to a discipline and
  183. 7:37would define it. That's it. And then,
  184. 7:41more profoundly, it is the entire set
  185. 7:43of thought schemes used by common sense
  186. 7:48and social experiences that the
  187. 7:50sociologist always risks letting into
  188. 7:52their science. And for example, uh, the
  189. 7:55, uh, vocabulary, well, carries, uh, a
  190. 7:59whole set of, uh, sociological
  191. 8:01presuppositions. The sociologist must
  192. 8:05therefore show particular vigilance, uh
  193. 8:08, against all infiltrations, uh, of
  194. 8:11common discourse and of the common
  195. 8:14experience of the social. Indeed,
  196. 8:18common discourse imposes itself with a
  197. 8:21quite particular force insofar as the
  198. 8:24preconstructed objects it proposes have
  199. 8:27for them all the force given to them by
  200. 8:30the society that conveys them. Uh, when
  201. 8:34the sociologist takes up the concept of
  202. 8:36leisure, uh, it is an entire social
  203. 8:39order, in short, that lies behind this
  204. 8:41concept and proposes it to him. And on
  205. 8:44the other hand, uh, the most elementary
  206. 8:47notions, in short, of sociology, uh,
  207. 8:50are always charged with a philosophy,
  208. 8:53uh, of the social, which is that of
  209. 8:56common sense. There is perhaps even an
  210. 9:01intrinsic reason for this power of
  211. 9:04spontaneous sociology in sociology: the
  212. 9:07objects the sociologist works on are,
  213. 9:09after all, people, and, uh, they
  214. 9:12therefore have this peculiarity that
  215. 9:14they speak, and that they speak a lot.
  216. 9:18And since the sociologist's facts are
  217. 9:20objects that speak, the temptation is
  218. 9:22obviously very great to listen to them
  219. 9:24speak, that is to say, to take them
  220. 9:26literally. Yes, I think one should not
  221. 9:28hesitate to say that it is perhaps the
  222. 9:30curse of sociology to have to deal with
  223. 9:32objects that speak. Indeed, uh, it is
  224. 9:35the very illusion of observation that
  225. 9:38is embodied in the primary experience
  226. 9:40of the experimental situation as it
  227. 9:43presents itself to the sociologist. The
  228. 9:46sociologist is someone who observes,
  229. 9:48the sociologist is someone who
  230. 9:50questions, and someone who records.
  231. 9:52Well, all these, uh, all these
  232. 9:55fundamental acts, in short, of, uh,
  233. 9:57scientific observation in sociology, uh
  234. 10:00, seem to carry, in short, with them a
  235. 10:03certain spontaneous epistemology which
  236. 10:06is positivism. And I think it would not
  237. 10:10be forced to say, in short, that given
  238. 10:13the particular relationship that
  239. 10:15sociology maintains with the common
  240. 10:18form, in short, of sociology, that is
  241. 10:20to say, with spontaneous sociology, it
  242. 10:23is in a way condemned to oscillate
  243. 10:25perpetually between two fundamental
  244. 10:28epistemological obstacles and between
  245. 10:31two forms of epistemological error. On
  246. 10:34the one hand, intuitionism, which is an
  247. 10:36extension of the illusion of
  248. 10:38transparency and the illusion of
  249. 10:40immediacy; and on the other hand,
  250. 10:42positivism, which is an extension of
  251. 10:44the illusion of observation, of the
  252. 10:47illusion that social facts are data
  253. 10:49that one can that one can avoid
  254. 10:52constructing. Yes. And here, the
  255. 10:54instruments, in short, the professional
  256. 10:56instruments of the sociologist, uh, are
  257. 10:58also on the one hand inevitable, but on
  258. 11:00the other hand dangerous insofar as
  259. 11:02they are misused, that is to say, used
  260. 11:04without epistemological vigilance, they
  261. 11:06tend to reinforce this second illusion.
  262. 11:09That is to say, if we think about what
  263. 11:11a questionnaire is, what interviews are
  264. 11:13, directed interviews or non-directed
  265. 11:15interviews, that is to say, a situation
  266. 11:17where the sociologist tells people to
  267. 11:19speak and then he listens to them, he
  268. 11:21records. If we consider these
  269. 11:25observation-gathering instruments,
  270. 11:28which represent a significant part of
  271. 11:31sociological work, we see that without
  272. 11:34questioning what these instruments do
  273. 11:37to the object—given the theory of the
  274. 11:41object or the instrument—the
  275. 11:43sociologist is professionally prone,
  276. 11:46unless they control their practice
  277. 11:49through epistemological questioning, to
  278. 11:54the constant risk of believing that
  279. 11:57simply asking people what they are
  280. 11:59doing, why they act, or why they do one
  281. 12:02thing rather than another is enough to
  282. 12:05construct a science of these behaviors.
  283. 12:09Yes. And to show how difficult it is to
  284. 12:13find antidotes to this sort of
  285. 12:15infantile disease inherent in
  286. 12:17sociological practice. I would like to
  287. 12:21take an example. Well, consider a
  288. 12:23perfectly natural question. Regarding a
  289. 12:27study on work. It was a study during
  290. 12:31which we asked a a sample of
  291. 12:36individuals taken from different
  292. 12:38regions of Algeria. Did you work today?
  293. 12:43Upon analysis, we observed that between
  294. 12:46individuals living in the Kabylie
  295. 12:49region and those in southern Algeria—
  296. 12:52that is, the pre-Saharan regions—
  297. 12:55there were huge differences in the rate
  298. 12:58of people who answered yes or no to the
  299. 13:02question, even though, objectively, the
  300. 13:06economic situation in both regions was
  301. 13:09roughly equivalent. Faced with such a
  302. 13:14contradiction between objective reality
  303. 13:17and the subjects 'answers, the
  304. 13:20sociologist could have naively
  305. 13:23concluded that his question was absurd
  306. 13:26or that the respondents were acting in
  307. 13:29bad faith. Whereas in reality, it was
  308. 13:33not a matter of questioning the answers
  309. 13:35, but of questioning the question
  310. 13:36itself. And this is the very precise
  311. 13:40illustration of what we have throughout
  312. 13:41called epistemological vigilance. And
  313. 13:45in this particular case, it was a
  314. 13:46matter of seeing very precisely that
  315. 13:48the differences were explained, roughly
  316. 13:51speaking, by the fact that the
  317. 13:52individuals who answered "yes" or "no"
  318. 13:54to this question were implicitly
  319. 13:56referring to philosophies of work and
  320. 13:58non-work that were more or less distant
  321. 14:00from the philosophy of work and
  322. 14:02non-work that the sociologist had
  323. 14:04embedded in their question. That is to
  324. 14:08say, in the Kabylie region, where
  325. 14:10contact with industrial civilization is
  326. 14:12more intense, individuals said "I did
  327. 14:14not work" when they had not worked for
  328. 14:16a cash income. That is, when they had
  329. 14:19not worked in the sense that we
  330. 14:20understand it. Well, and in that, their
  331. 14:22philosophy of work more or less
  332. 14:23coincided with that of the sociologist.
  333. 14:26While in the South, individuals could
  334. 14:28say they had worked, even those who
  335. 14:30hadn't worked in the sense we
  336. 14:31understand it, those who were content
  337. 14:33to fulfill their duties as men, and for
  338. 14:34an old man, for example, to attend
  339. 14:36village talks—essentially what is
  340. 14:37part of the function of being a man,
  341. 14:39and which, in that sense, constitutes
  342. 14:41work. Well, we see how the reflexive
  343. 14:45return, so to speak, on the
  344. 14:47significance of the instruments and on
  345. 14:49the specific effectiveness of the
  346. 14:51instruments is the condition for the
  347. 14:53actual construction of the object.
  348. 14:56Failing that, the object is constructed
  349. 14:58without us knowing it; that is to say,
  350. 15:00the pre-constructed object imposes
  351. 15:02itself, or it is constructed according
  352. 15:04to presuppositions. Moreover, the same
  353. 15:07thing should be said for all
  354. 15:09sociological work operations, meaning
  355. 15:10not only the act of asking a question
  356. 15:12in a questionnaire, but also those acts
  357. 15:14generally presented as subordinate and
  358. 15:16thus often left, in the organization of
  359. 15:18research, to personnel...
  360. 15:21themselves subordinate.
  361. 15:22Themselves subordinate, namely coding
  362. 15:24—that is to say, that act so simple
  363. 15:26which consists, in order for the
  364. 15:27information collected to be susceptible
  365. 15:29to statistical processing for instance,
  366. 15:31of transposing it into another language
  367. 15:33which is the one, for example, that
  368. 15:34allows for building tables or for
  369. 15:36machines to process this material. So,
  370. 15:38coding, and even the act that would
  371. 15:40seem to best illustrate the positivist
  372. 15:42image of recording, the act of
  373. 15:44conducting a non-directive interview,
  374. 15:46that is to say, going to someone's home
  375. 15:49and listening to them speak,
  376. 15:50encouraging them to speak without even
  377. 15:53giving a guiding theme to the
  378. 15:54conversation. If the non-directive
  379. 15:57interview enjoys such favor, it is
  380. 15:58perhaps because it prototypically
  381. 16:00embodies the positivist image of
  382. 16:01recording without presuppositions.
  383. 16:03Whereas, in the same way, it would be
  384. 16:06easy to show what it means, from a
  385. 16:08sociological point of view, to simply
  386. 16:10speak without direction, depending on
  387. 16:12the social group of the subject being
  388. 16:14addressed, and depending on the social
  389. 16:16image they form of the researcher,
  390. 16:19because they immediately place them as
  391. 16:21belonging to their own social group or
  392. 16:23not. In other words, it is regarding
  393. 16:26all operations of sociological work
  394. 16:28that epistemological vigilance—in
  395. 16:30order for the sociologist to truly know
  396. 16:32what they are doing—must engage in
  397. 16:35this theoretical questioning about what
  398. 16:37instruments are, and about the way in
  399. 16:39which one must construct problems based
  400. 16:41on what is being asked. Exactly. Yes.
  401. 16:43That is to say, the sociologist must
  402. 16:46engage in the slightest of their
  403. 16:48technical acts—designing a
  404. 16:49questionnaire, coding, analyzing a
  405. 16:51statistical table, and so on. Well, a
  406. 16:55theory of knowledge of the object, a
  407. 16:57theory of the object, and a theory of
  408. 17:00what it means to know the object
  409. 17:02experimentally. Well, and for example,
  410. 17:06uh, it is obvious that if, uh,
  411. 17:08sociologists, uh, confer upon what are
  412. 17:10called indirect questions—that is to
  413. 17:13say, questions that seem to be about A
  414. 17:15when they are actually about B, uh, and
  415. 17:17which, and which end up in a way
  416. 17:19deceiving the respondent—well, if the
  417. 17:22sociologist gives these questions a
  418. 17:24privilege, it is fundamentally because
  419. 17:26they have...they embody in the primacy
  420. 17:32conferred upon these questions, uh,
  421. 17:35obedience to the principle of
  422. 17:37non-consciousness.
  423. 17:40We must come to say positively what it
  424. 17:43concretely means to actualize the
  425. 17:45principles of a theory of social
  426. 17:48knowledge in the acts of the profession
  427. 17:51. Uh, to take precisely the most
  428. 17:54rudimentary act, the one that consists
  429. 17:56—because it can rarely be avoided at
  430. 17:57the verification stage—of making a
  431. 17:59questionnaire and administering a
  432. 18:01questionnaire. This means very specific
  433. 18:04things. For example, there are
  434. 18:06questionnaire questions that are better
  435. 18:08than others. So, factual questions are
  436. 18:11better than opinion questions. That
  437. 18:13goes without saying. Uh, but perhaps
  438. 18:16more subtly, one could assert that
  439. 18:18indirect questions are always better
  440. 18:21than direct questions.
  441. 18:24And by direct questions, we must
  442. 18:25understand questions that consist of
  443. 18:27finally asking the subject to be their
  444. 18:29own sociologist. That is to say, if I
  445. 18:32am wondering what religious experience
  446. 18:35is for a given individual, I will ask
  447. 18:37them, "Sir, what is your religious
  448. 18:40experience?" Is it mystical? Or
  449. 18:43rationalist, and so on.
  450. 18:45Yes, we could say that the naive
  451. 18:47approach would be to believe that one
  452. 18:49can ask the subject the questions we
  453. 18:51ask ourselves about them.
  454. 18:53That's it. And by contrast...And by
  455. 18:56contrast, the indirect question would
  456. 18:59consist of asking either to observe
  457. 19:01behaviors, or to capture very indirect
  458. 19:04indicators. For example, the fact of "
  459. 19:08Do you go to mass carrying a...or do
  460. 19:11you light candles to the Madonna," well
  461. 19:14, and so on.
  462. 19:16It means we must avoid two things:
  463. 19:18asking the subject the questions they
  464. 19:20consciously ask themselves. Yes. Uh,
  465. 19:23because that would consist of believing
  466. 19:26that they can have subjective access,
  467. 19:28uh, to the truth of their behavior, and
  468. 19:31also avoiding asking them the questions
  469. 19:33that we ask ourselves about them. In
  470. 19:36other words, you have to ask him the
  471. 19:38questions that objectively face him
  472. 19:40without him asking them himself.
  473. 19:41without him asking them consciously. So
  474. 19:44, that is why, obviously, it is, uh, uh
  475. 19:46, it is, well, it is...I was going to
  476. 19:48say, it is quite an honor, that's
  477. 19:49probably wrong, but, anyway, uh, it is
  478. 19:51only by reference, uh, to the choice of
  479. 19:53research, uh, to knowledge, well, to
  480. 19:55the degree to which one has succeeded
  481. 19:56in breaking with preconceptions about
  482. 19:58the subject one intends to treat, uh,
  483. 20:00that the right indirect questions can
  484. 20:02begin to be triggered. To say it's all
  485. 20:05art, it's, it's talking, well, about
  486. 20:07sociology like experts talk about art.
  487. 20:09And actually, I think one should say,
  488. 20:12uh, that, uh, adequate practice, well,
  489. 20:14is a practice in which the sociologist,
  490. 20:16uh, puts into action the fundamental
  491. 20:19principles of the theory of social
  492. 20:21knowledge, uh, often without even
  493. 20:23having to ask themselves what they are
  494. 20:25doing, because they have so deeply
  495. 20:27internalized these principles that they
  496. 20:29have become, in a way, their habit,
  497. 20:32well, their way of being. That's it.
  498. 20:34Meaning, one could say that, uh, there
  499. 20:37are so many errors that one can commit
  500. 20:39that one must still avoid a certain
  501. 20:41number of them through, uh, a system of
  502. 20:43internalized mental habits; because if
  503. 20:45you had to, uh, uh, to avoid an error,
  504. 20:48uh, every time, uh, theorize about it,
  505. 20:50it would not be possible. Consequently,
  506. 20:52what we have called the theory of
  507. 20:55social knowledge only begins to become
  508. 20:57effective and active insofar as it is
  509. 20:59internalized as a posture.
  510. 21:02So, I I believe that to make one feel,
  511. 21:04well, what this practice of a
  512. 21:06sociologist really is, there is no
  513. 21:08better way than to recount, of course
  514. 21:10in a very artificial and quick way, and
  515. 21:12in the form of a fast-forward film.
  516. 21:15well, uh, the different steps of a
  517. 21:16research project. Right, so wanting to
  518. 21:18do that, I think we can, uh,
  519. 21:20immediately isolate a certain number of
  520. 21:23operations. Well, the sociologist asks
  521. 21:25themselves, what am I going to study?
  522. 21:27Uh, I am interested, uh, in the
  523. 21:29perception that people have of works of
  524. 21:31art and I wonder about the reasons they
  525. 21:33have for visiting museums or not
  526. 21:35visiting them. Right, uh, having said
  527. 21:37that, they create a questionnaire. In
  528. 21:40this questionnaire, they inject a
  529. 21:42certain number of hypotheses. For
  530. 21:44example, they presuppose, well, that
  531. 21:46there is a relationship between the act
  532. 21:49of visiting the museum and the level of
  533. 21:51education, that is to say the culture
  534. 21:54specifically received by, well, the
  535. 21:56subject in question. Which means that
  536. 21:58from this point on, uh, we don't forget
  537. 22:00to include in the questionnaire the
  538. 22:02question regarding, uh, the membership,
  539. 22:04well, the social membership or social
  540. 22:05origin because if we didn't have this
  541. 22:07theoretical hypothesis in mind, the
  542. 22:09theoretical hypothesis of a
  543. 22:10Yes. We might forget to mention the
  544. 22:13level of education.
  545. 22:14It is very common that in this type of
  546. 22:15survey, we forget it precisely. For
  547. 22:17example, we could cite a considerable
  548. 22:18number of surveys on students in which
  549. 22:20they were not asked what their parents'
  550. 22:22profession was, which appears to us as
  551. 22:24already an ideological choice. So,
  552. 22:27therefore, he builds a questionnaire,
  553. 22:29this questionnaire, he administers it
  554. 22:31to individuals. uh, he records and
  555. 22:36finally, he analyzes the responses.
  556. 22:38Well, so this description, I mean, I
  557. 22:41made it intentionally positivist.
  558. 22:43Anyway, and we would find in many
  559. 22:44textbooks, well, of sociological
  560. 22:46practices, uh, descriptions quite
  561. 22:48analogous to those I made. So we can
  562. 22:50obviously have fun retranslating it
  563. 22:51into an epistemological language. That
  564. 22:55is to say, for example, there, in what
  565. 22:57was essentially presented in the form
  566. 22:59called naive, therefore the first
  567. 23:01moment, uh, namely we measure what
  568. 23:03people do, uh, it happens that what was
  569. 23:06measured, uh, is, uh, museum attendance
  570. 23:08. People frequent it or do not frequent
  571. 23:11it, whereas we could have measured, but
  572. 23:13measured many other things. For example
  573. 23:15, by asking questions like, does art
  574. 23:17have great importance in your life? Is
  575. 23:19it for you the currency of the absolute
  576. 23:20? Why not? By asking questions like
  577. 23:23that, we would have also measured
  578. 23:24because people would have answered yes
  579. 23:26or no. There would therefore have been
  580. 23:27a yes response rate, a no response rate
  581. 23:29. Consequently, we see there an act of
  582. 23:32how theoretical hypotheses and finally,
  583. 23:34therefore, the objectives of the
  584. 23:36research and the concepts that arrange
  585. 23:39a possible relationship between
  586. 23:41education and cultivated behavior, etc.
  587. 23:43, are entirely present each time in the
  588. 23:45technical choices that make us measure
  589. 23:48one thing rather than another. And so,
  590. 23:50we could then show how, to continue,
  591. 23:52well, the description of the series of
  592. 23:54operations, well, the questionnaires
  593. 23:56come back, they are accumulated in a
  594. 23:57laboratory where they are subjected to
  595. 23:59an analysis. Well, that is to say that
  596. 24:01we substitute for answers that are
  597. 24:03either very closed of the type "I have
  598. 24:06a high school diploma," or for very
  599. 24:08open answers of the type "the last time
  600. 24:10, the first time I entered a museum, I
  601. 24:12was 12 years old, I was with my parents
  602. 24:14, etc." to answers, therefore, very
  603. 24:16often circumstantial, very
  604. 24:18circumstantial, uh, we substitute
  605. 24:20numbers. Well, this then allows for
  606. 24:22statistical data processing, and the
  607. 24:25computer returns tables of numbers to
  608. 24:27the sociologists—that is to say, on
  609. 24:30one side we see professions, the
  610. 24:32different types of professions, and
  611. 24:34corresponding to each profession, such
  612. 24:37and such an opinion. Well, so we
  613. 24:40conclude, for example, that the higher
  614. 24:42one rises in the social hierarchy, the
  615. 24:44more one believes that one can access
  616. 24:46art without preparation, which is a
  617. 24:48fact actually confirmed in the survey.
  618. 24:52Also, since we are at the coding stage,
  619. 24:54we could see that it is possible to
  620. 24:56code quite different things. That is,
  621. 24:59let's think about the most positivist
  622. 25:01coding, which takes people's opinions
  623. 25:03literally. One could simply code the
  624. 25:06content of the opinions as favorable or
  625. 25:08unfavorable, at that level of
  626. 25:09generality and abstraction. That's one
  627. 25:12way to code. We could also code, since
  628. 25:15we are thinking about the influence of
  629. 25:17social background, the type of grammar
  630. 25:19or vocabulary used if it concerns
  631. 25:21open-ended questions where people have
  632. 25:24written sentences. The type of grammar
  633. 25:27used to speak about artistic experience
  634. 25:29. And as numerous studies have already
  635. 25:32shown, even in an extreme case, one can
  636. 25:34even code the act of not responding.
  637. 25:38Yes, which is also relevant to the
  638. 25:40variables; that can be entirely
  639. 25:41relevant.
  640. 25:43So it is at the coding level, for
  641. 25:48example, that we would see, as it is
  642. 25:50generally considered the most minor act
  643. 25:52, the presence of the theory. Yes. So
  644. 25:58we would see it throughout; that is, if
  645. 26:00we then move on to the analysis of the
  646. 26:02tables, searching for relationships, it
  647. 26:04is obvious that a table does not speak
  648. 26:06—thank God, it does not speak for
  649. 26:08itself. The subjects already speak
  650. 26:10enough and propose enough hypotheses.
  651. 26:12Tables say nothing, and they only
  652. 26:14answer if one asks them questions. That
  653. 26:17is to say, one must have a hypothesis
  654. 26:20in mind regarding what a certain
  655. 26:23statistical distribution might mean in
  656. 26:26order for that distribution to speak.
  657. 26:30Yes. So, generally, if we fast-forward,
  658. 26:34I think we can clearly see that, to a
  659. 26:37certain extent, one can say a complete
  660. 26:40sociological approach goes from a
  661. 26:43provisional theory to a confirmed or
  662. 26:46corrected theory. And I believe that is
  663. 26:50a definition that any specialist in the
  664. 26:53natural sciences would easily accept.
  665. 26:58Well, for example, in the case of
  666. 27:00museum attendance, we have managed, for
  667. 27:04instance, to build a mathematical model
  668. 27:07of museum attendance that accounts for
  669. 27:10the objective relationships established
  670. 27:14between education level and the
  671. 27:16intensity of attendance. Well, this
  672. 27:20mathematical model allows us to predict
  673. 27:22, for example, what the museum-going
  674. 27:24public will be like in twenty years '
  675. 27:26time. Well, and more broadly, this
  676. 27:29model, partly by virtue of mathematics,
  677. 27:33generalizes quite easily to other
  678. 27:35fields.
  679. 27:37Perhaps we should slow down for a
  680. 27:39moment, especially if we are talking
  681. 27:42about a predictive model, because the
  682. 27:44explanation we have reached here is not
  683. 27:47at all complete yet. That is to say, we
  684. 27:51have established, through measurement,
  685. 27:53that there is a statistical
  686. 27:55relationship between, on one hand, the
  687. 27:57subjects' education level and, on the
  688. 27:59other, their relationship to the museum
  689. 28:02—that is, their rate of museum
  690. 28:04attendance or, more simply, that people
  691. 28:06go to the museum more often and, for
  692. 28:08example, spend more time looking at a
  693. 28:11painting during their visit, the higher
  694. 28:14they belong in the hierarchy of
  695. 28:16educational attainment. But this
  696. 28:19statistical relationship, only a
  697. 28:21positivist could say that it explains
  698. 28:23the phenomenon we have analyzed simply
  699. 28:26because it allows us to predict it.
  700. 28:28That's right. As it stands, it remains
  701. 28:30a pure fact that still needs to be
  702. 28:32accounted for. It is a fact devoid of
  703. 28:34meaning.
  704. 28:35And in this sense, we see that we can
  705. 28:38give the word "understanding" a meaning
  706. 28:42quite different from the one it has in
  707. 28:45the traditional opposition. between
  708. 28:49understanding and explanation,
  709. 28:51understanding this relationship
  710. 28:55and which is not at all different from
  711. 28:56the sense the word has in the natural
  712. 28:58sciences.
  713. 28:58Yes. It is to make intelligible, and
  714. 29:01one could say to a certain extent that
  715. 29:03sociology understands the movement of
  716. 29:06the planets and, what's more, the false
  717. 29:09understanding that these planets—
  718. 29:11which are the social individuals—
  719. 29:14believe they have of their own movement
  720. 29:16.

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