Phoebe Zerwick - Beyond Innocence: The Life Sentence of Darryl Hunt — Transcript
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- 0:00[Music]
- 0:01foreign
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- 0:18I teach journalism in writing at Wake
- 0:22Forest University where I also direct
- 0:24the journalism program
- 0:26and I'm a lifelong journalist and I have
- 0:29recently published my first book which
- 0:31is
- 0:32called Beyond innocence the life
- 0:35sentence of Daryl hunt which is a story
- 0:38that I really first learned about
- 0:42at the very beginning of my career at
- 0:44the Winston-Salem Journal where I
- 0:47started in 1987.
- 0:49Daryl hunt was a black teenager in
- 0:54Winston-Salem North Carolina in the
- 0:57summer of 1984. when a white newspaper
- 1:02editor was raped and stabbed to death
- 1:05not far from the newspaper office in
- 1:08downtown Winston-Salem and she was white
- 1:11and of course there was a it was a
- 1:16terrible crime and there was um
- 1:20it made news of course and there was a
- 1:23tremendous amount of pressure on the
- 1:24police department to quickly solve the
- 1:27case a couple of witnesses had seen her
- 1:29with a black man walking down the street
- 1:33early in the morning on her way to work
- 1:36and so the crime also fit
- 1:40um this kind of myth that we have that
- 1:43goes back to the very beginning of our
- 1:45history in this country back to slavery
- 1:48that white women are in danger and that
- 1:52black men are sexual predators and so
- 1:57that myth is has really fueled the way
- 2:01we deal with crime in this country and
- 2:03the hysteria around
- 2:06attacks and rapes and murders of of
- 2:09white women
- 2:10and Daryl hunt very quickly became a
- 2:13suspect through a very complex set of
- 2:16circumstances and he was arrested and
- 2:21wrongly convicted twice of this crime
- 2:24there was this there was a second trial
- 2:26and he maintained his innocence all
- 2:29along
- 2:30um I first started writing about the
- 2:33case
- 2:34um when he was still in prison and he
- 2:38was asking for DNA testing he'd been in
- 2:40prison by then for 19 years and my
- 2:44newspaper assigned me to kind of try to
- 2:47take a fresh look at this case it had
- 2:49been in the news for 20 years by then so
- 2:52it was a story that was well known to my
- 2:55readers in in Winston-Salem but they um
- 3:00my editors wanted one wanted to see what
- 3:04we could find if we stepped back and
- 3:06really took a fresh look at the case and
- 3:09I ended up writing a well I ended up
- 3:12spending almost seven months taking this
- 3:15fresh look and I wrote a series of
- 3:19stories investigative stories that
- 3:22eventually led to his release from
- 3:25prison Daryl Hunt's release and to the
- 3:29identification through DNA testing of
- 3:33the real killer in this case
- 3:36yeah it was you know an incredible
- 3:38moment for my career probably the the
- 3:41most defining moment of my journalism
- 3:43career I also thought okay he's out the
- 3:47work I did helped bring about Justice
- 3:50and you know I moved on to other stories
- 3:54I thought I was done writing about Daryl
- 3:56hunt
- 3:58um I kept up with him over the years I
- 4:01ended up leaving the newspaper and
- 4:03started teaching at Wake Forest
- 4:05University Daryl Hunt went on to become
- 4:08a advocate for social justice in North
- 4:12Carolina he founded a foundation that
- 4:15worked with people coming home from
- 4:17prison
- 4:18there was a documentary made about him
- 4:21so he became really almost certainly a
- 4:25nationally known Advocate and really
- 4:27internationally known Advocate and he
- 4:31lived in Winston-Salem I would see him
- 4:33in fact for about a year or he had
- 4:36stepchildren I had children and his son
- 4:39and my son went to the same elementary
- 4:41school so I would see him driving to
- 4:44his son to to school he'd come driving
- 4:48down the hill and he had this bright
- 4:50blue truck and it just looked to me like
- 4:53he was out he was free
- 4:56justice has been done
- 4:58and then
- 5:01actually we're coming up on the seventh
- 5:03anniversary of when
- 5:06um I got drawn back into the story
- 5:09it's March the 5th right now so seven
- 5:12years ago
- 5:13um Daryl hunt was back in was in town
- 5:18and around now he stopped answering text
- 5:21messages phone calls he'd been staying
- 5:24in a hotel he checked out of that hotel
- 5:26on March the 4th and he'd gone missing
- 5:31he was finally found on March the 13th
- 5:35in parked at a actually right across
- 5:39from the city's Coliseum in a kind of
- 5:41parking lot at a at a shopping center
- 5:45and he was dead from a gunshot wound
- 5:50I suppose I was drawn back into the
- 5:53story to find out what had happened why
- 5:55had this man who seemed to have overcome
- 5:59so much who fought for justice for 19
- 6:01years who was out who was leading a life
- 6:06of purpose and accomplishment
- 6:09why why had things what what had led to
- 6:13to his death it was within a month it
- 6:17was ruled a suicide
- 6:19and I just began I got my reporters
- 6:23notebooks out and I began
- 6:25um interviewing people trying to track
- 6:28his final steps
- 6:31um I learned that he was really leading
- 6:35a kind of double life so that he had
- 6:39begun to abuse drugs to
- 6:42really to numb some of the psychic pain
- 6:45that he was under and I eventually wrote
- 6:50a magazine article that led to to this
- 6:53book and the simple question what
- 6:56happened really opened up a really
- 6:59complicated
- 7:00story about the Damage Done by wrongful
- 7:04conviction the psychological damage the
- 7:07Damage Done by incarceration and when
- 7:10you couple that with being incarcerated
- 7:13when you're not guilt when you're
- 7:15innocent it compounds that damage the
- 7:19Damage Done by living in solitary
- 7:22confinement he he was in solitary
- 7:24confinement for a total of four years
- 7:27and then what happens when you come out
- 7:30and you come home to a world that
- 7:33doesn't understand what you've been
- 7:35through and then in Daryl Hunt's case
- 7:38there was also the Damage Done
- 7:41to him by our system of systemic racism
- 7:45I mean he grew up in a racist society
- 7:49and he came home to a racist society and
- 7:53he carried that burden with him his his
- 7:56whole life
- 7:58and then in his case he also had had the
- 8:03weight of being a celebrity and so much
- 8:06expectation on him to
- 8:09to fight for justice and he felt that
- 8:12that burden and um
- 8:15and it finally caught up with him and so
- 8:19the story
- 8:21his story is um
- 8:23is really a story that is shared by well
- 8:27it's shared by the more than 3 000
- 8:30people we've wrongly convicted in this
- 8:32country but it's also shared by the
- 8:35millions of people who are either
- 8:37incarcerated now or who are out trying
- 8:40to restart their lives
- 8:43and live in communities that have where
- 8:46so many people have been incarcerated
- 8:48and there's been so much damage done by
- 8:52this this system of mass incarceration
- 8:55that we have in this country because we
- 8:59um
- 9:00we live in so much fear of crime and our
- 9:05answer to Crime has always been to put
- 9:09people away rather than to try to look
- 9:13at the root causes of of crime in our
- 9:15country and I suppose My Hope with the
- 9:18book is that because it is a story
- 9:22and it's a story that
- 9:26that is the story of a really remarkable
- 9:29man and then the remarkable people who
- 9:32stood by him all those years and it's a
- 9:35story that I hope transports readers
- 9:38into a world that maybe they're not
- 9:41familiar with into the world that Daryl
- 9:45hunt grew up in and into the prisons
- 9:47where he spent all those years and into
- 9:50the experience of being denied Justice
- 9:55all that time my hope is that through
- 9:57this story that readers will
- 10:01um
- 10:01understand what our country does to so
- 10:05many people and that people will be
- 10:08moved to fight for justice in this
- 10:11country
- 10:14foreign
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