Pete Rose Gets "Pissed Off" Over Gambling Scandal: Betting on Baseball Cost Me $100M! (Part 11) — Transcript

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1. 0:05so that in 88 you're a manager and you
2. 0:09guys had a home game against the
3. 0:12Mets things went a little crazy that
4. 0:14game what
5. 0:16happened well uh mooki
6. 0:19Wilson uh he hit what looked like a
7. 0:22routine ground ball to the short stop uh
8. 0:25but the throw to the first base was wide
9. 0:28and you know it pulled the first base's
10. 0:29foot off the bag and then the
11. 0:32Umpire uh Dave palone he didn't make the
12. 0:35safe
13. 0:39call you know what I'm talking about
14. 0:41here yeah I think
15. 0:44so okay were the the GU scored from
16. 0:49second yeah first Bas waited for the
17. 0:51call make the play the plate because
18. 0:54Dave palone was down on his
19. 0:56knee uh making a late call and by the
20. 0:59time I KN I know he called him safe the
21. 1:02guy had already rounded second uh third
22. 1:04from second base and
23. 1:06scored a winning run that pissed me off
24. 1:10because he didn't give me time to
25. 1:12react
26. 1:14right and that's so you got on the field
27. 1:17and you started arguing with the Empire
28. 1:18yeah very
29. 1:20seldom what happened
30. 1:23next
31. 1:27um I shoved him because he poked
32. 1:32me he poked me right here and made me
33. 1:34bleed when I went like that I saw him
34. 1:37and I pushed him and I got a 30-day
35. 1:42suspension so that was a deal where an
36. 1:44Umpire put his hands on me instead of me
37. 1:46putting hands on the
38. 1:51Umpire well uh palone he wrote a book
39. 1:54and there was a whole chapter about that
40. 1:56incident he said that he never touched
41. 1:58you and
42. 2:00where the blood come from my face right
43. 2:02here right here I'm I'm not saying it's
44. 2:05not true I'm just saying he I was there
45. 2:08I was there I remember so for him to get
46. 2:11write a book and say he didn't touch me
47. 2:13he's a lying piece of I hate to say
48. 2:17that but that's what he
49. 2:19is and I like da
50. 2:21palone you
51. 2:23know uh but for him to say he didn't
52. 2:26touch me why else why else would I react
53. 2:29the way I reacted well after that
54. 2:32incident with palone happened all hell
55. 2:35broke loose fans started throwing radios
56. 2:38and cigarette lighters on the field uh
57. 2:40they had to suspend the game for 15
58. 2:42minutes and when the dust settled well
59. 2:45palone actually ended up leaving the
60. 2:46fields and they had to finished a game
61. 2:48with three
62. 2:49Empires and after all was said and done
63. 2:52you got suspended for 30 days which is
64. 2:54the longest suspension ever for an
65. 2:56onfield incident with a manager do you
66. 2:59feel like that was
67. 3:01Overkill yeah because he's the one
68. 3:03screwed up he's first of all he missed
69. 3:04the call second secondly then he poked
70. 3:07me almost in the
71. 3:09eye so I guess I'm lucky I didn't punch
72. 3:14him just shoved
73. 3:16him because normally I would punch
74. 3:18somebody that did did
75. 3:23that because the fans the fans could see
76. 3:27first of all they could see he blew the
77. 3:28call you know down on his knees acting
78. 3:31like
79. 3:32Hollywood yeah I
80. 3:36agree that's I don't know life's too too
81. 3:39too short to even worry about something
82. 3:41like
83. 3:43that okay so then 1989 rolls around
84. 3:48yeah now reports are a circle that you
85. 3:52were betting on baseball
86. 3:54games and originally you were informally
87. 3:56questioned in February of that year um
88. 4:00and you denied the
89. 4:01allegations and by that time
90. 4:04Giamatti you know was running
91. 4:08things and you know it was relatively
92. 4:11quiet until Sports Illustrated actually
93. 4:13released a detailed report on the
94. 4:16allegations you know they say that you
95. 4:18had placed bets on baseball games on
96. 4:19March 21st 1989 it dated back to April
97. 4:243rd um you know then rumors started to
98. 4:27to Circle that you weren't paying some
99. 4:29of the bookie they were saying that the
100. 4:30mob was involved and so forth and see
101. 4:33I'm say the story the story start to get
102. 4:35crazy of
103. 4:37all why would I be betting on a baseball
104. 4:40game in
105. 4:41March it's a spring training game are
106. 4:45they is that report saying I bet on
107. 4:47spring training
108. 4:48games that's what you're
109. 4:51saying yeah the last time I checked we
110. 4:53didn't play no major league games in
111. 4:57March does that make any sense you well
112. 5:01okay well hold on this might be wrong I
113. 5:03I think maybe that the the sports
114. 5:06illustr came out on that date so I don't
115. 5:08think it was saying you were betting on
116. 5:10that date but I think that that's when
117. 5:11the report came out so so that might
118. 5:13actually be my mistake uh just tell you
119. 5:1589 is when I start betting on
120. 5:18baseball it's not it's not a secret not
121. 5:21a
122. 5:22secret
123. 5:24uh cuz I believed in my players I
124. 5:26believed in my team and I believe we're
125. 5:28going to win every game
126. 5:30and I and I was a
127. 5:32gambler so if you're a gambler you're
128. 5:34kind of looking for an edge and the edge
129. 5:37was that uh I'm running the game I
130. 5:40didn't run the game any differently
131. 5:41betting on it than not betting on it I I
132. 5:44I managed every game to win the
133. 5:47game and no one will ever say you could
134. 5:50tell I was gambling on this or that
135. 5:52because the way I run the game I never
136. 5:55made a blunder in a decision whether it
137. 5:57was this pinch hitter or that pinch
138. 5:59hitter or this relief pitcher or that
139. 6:01relief pitcher I was always
140. 6:03consistent with the way I run the
141. 6:07game now I ask your
142. 6:10questions okay well they brought in a
143. 6:12lawyer named John M Dow to investigate
144. 6:15the whole situation his Strike Force guy
145. 6:18he used to put Mafia types behind
146. 6:21bars
147. 6:23right uh according to the report they're
148. 6:27saying that you allegedly bet on 2 Reds
149. 6:30games 1987 and you're B betting a
150. 6:33minimum of $10,000 a day no that's not
151. 6:35true that's I wasn't making that much M
152. 6:38bet 10,000 a
153. 6:40day see I get a kick out you guys in the
154. 6:43Press you always go on these goddamn
155. 6:47reports reports from 50 years ago how am
156. 6:51I supposed to know what's in a report 50
157. 6:53years ago can you tell you got me pissed
158. 6:55off right now can you tell that I can
159. 6:57tell okay because I don't want to hear
160. 6:59about reports I want someone to sign her
161. 7:02goddamn name to to a report betting
162. 7:05$10,000 a day Christ I'm not making
163. 7:09enough bet 10,000 a day and you're going
164. 7:12to also say I a stiff bookmakers I've
165. 7:14never St stiff a bookmaker in my life
166. 7:18okay but the report said I did who's the
167. 7:22report John Dow well the the report also
168. 7:26said there was no evidence that you
169. 7:27actually bet against the Reds well no
170. 7:29everybody knows that everybody
171. 7:31knows that that's not that's yesterday's
172. 7:35newspapers
173. 7:37right right but unfortunately the way
174. 7:40it's set out that it VI you know you
175. 7:42violated a rule where you can't bet
176. 7:45against the gay I understood I
177. 7:47understand I broke the rules okay let me
178. 7:50explain something to you I broke the
179. 7:53rules it cost me a 100
180. 7:56million that's what it cost me by
181. 7:59breaking the rules so I don't want to
182. 8:00hear about breaking the rules $100
183. 8:04million it cost me betting on
184. 8:07baseball right so who got penalized the
185. 8:10most you the guy give the report I did
186. 8:14you did I did
187. 8:17right well initially you denied it and
188. 8:19you filed a
189. 8:20lawsuit well I I denied it because my
190. 8:23lawyers told me to because I I didn't
191. 8:25think they had any proof