PASTOR DAVID OGBUELI CALLED THIS PASTOR THAT DIED AND WENT TO HELL & HEAVEN FOR 4 DAYS TO TELL — Transcript

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1. 0:00June 2012
2. 0:02my father dies.
3. 0:04And he died of cancer lymphoma.
4. 0:06He was taken to India. He stayed there
5. 0:08for about a year. They brought him back
6. 0:09after all the treatment, chemo, all the
7. 0:11things they do and then normally and
8. 0:13then
9. 0:15and I was preaching. I was on top of the
10. 0:16pulpit when they gave me the message
11. 0:17that he has passed on.
12. 0:20The way I cried that day, I loved that
13. 0:22man.
14. 0:23If it was in my power, he would never
15. 0:25die at all.
16. 0:29September of that same year, 2012
17. 0:32we went to bury him. His burial was on
18. 0:33Friday.
19. 0:36So we went to funeral [music] and I was
20. 0:37wearing
21. 0:39and one of a pastor started calling me
22. 0:41from away.
23. 0:43I didn't take his call. Was calling me
24. 0:44that I looked was saying something about
25. 0:46accident. One of the pastors in his
26. 0:48church had an accident, a ghastly motor
27. 0:50accident. If you see the vehicle, you
28. 0:51know that no human being came out of it.
29. 0:53The vehicle went on the trailer and was
30. 0:54crushed. It was a bus.
31. 0:57Okay, please put up that picture. Let
32. 0:59everybody see it. Put it up.
33. 1:01This is the vehicle.
34. 1:04And that young man was sitting at back
35. 1:05and he died.
36. 1:07And they carried them to hospital and
37. 1:09all of those and I like when you are
38. 1:10dead and you are dead dead. If you're
39. 1:12telling me about the other side, I will
40. 1:13listen.
41. 1:16Now, this is Friday.
42. 1:17So later in the night, I called him back
43. 1:20after we had finished the burial. He was
44. 1:21telling me about this accident. The
45. 1:22reason he was calling me is to pray and
46. 1:23raise the boy from the dead. I said this
47. 1:24pastor self.
48. 1:28I encouraged him.
49. 1:31So that is the whole Friday. This burial
50. 1:32was in the morning. This accident the
51. 1:34whole Friday went. But the women, the
52. 1:35people in the church refused
53. 1:37to bury the guy.
54. 1:39Though he had taken them to hospital,
55. 1:40but they refused. So they prayed the
56. 1:42whole Friday, he didn't wake up.
57. 1:45They prayed the whole Saturday, he
58. 1:47didn't Many people did not go home to
59. 1:48take their bath.
60. 1:51Then Sunday service came.
61. 1:54They prayed and they took the same
62. 1:55clothes, stayed there praying, followed
63. 1:57the service till services ended. Other
64. 1:59people went home. These people stayed
65. 2:00there. Prayed till Sunday evening. He
66. 2:02didn't come back.
67. 2:04So,
68. 2:05I took the phone to tell him, "Just bury
69. 2:07the guy. You have tried."
70. 2:09Something just held me back. I left him.
71. 2:131:00 a.m. in the night. That is the
72. 2:15early hours of Monday. The guy woke up.
73. 2:22>> [music]
74. 2:22>> Yeah?
75. 2:24>> [applause]
76. 2:27>> He calls me in the morning that he has
77. 2:29woken up. I called our media team. I
78. 2:32told them, "Fly to where immediately.
79. 2:34Go and record what Find out what he saw
80. 2:36from the other side. He didn't die for 3
81. 2:38days." And they went.
82. 2:41He wasn't talking. They waited They
83. 2:42waited till he was able to say They said
84. 2:44it And people are wondering, "Why are
85. 2:45you people disturbing this?"
86. 2:47I gave them instructions. "Collect the
87. 2:49information. I want video evidence. I
88. 2:51want printed I want whatever."
89. 2:54And they recorded it.
90. 2:56I like I told you um where my mind work.
91. 2:58If you are If you are training science,
92. 3:00you like evidence. I don't like stories.
93. 3:04To my shock, he survived.
94. 3:07>> [applause]
95. 3:12[applause and music]
96. 3:13>> Because Jesus reappeared the second
97. 3:15time.
98. 3:16And this time he came with angels. They
99. 3:18came and did [music] things. Brought
100. 3:20surgeons. They came and did cutting.
101. 3:22Remove bones. Fix bones. Put whatever
102. 3:24When they finished. And there were
103. 3:26people there when this thing was
104. 3:27happening. And his body was fine.
105. 3:34>> [applause]
106. 3:34>> You know, it's like if you are sick now
107. 3:36and there are damaged organs or broken
108. 3:38bones. Don't let such thing If you heard
109. 3:40the message this morning about the
110. 3:41glorified Christ. Just a look from him
111. 3:43fixes your bone.
112. 3:46>> [applause]
113. 3:49>> Please, let's welcome my first evidence,
114. 3:51Pastor Victor. Please, where are you
115. 3:52from or where?
116. 3:53>> [applause]
117. 3:55>> Give him a mic.
118. 3:56>> [music]
119. 3:57>> This is a young man that died in that
120. 3:58motorcycle. He is from Akwa Ibom state.
121. 4:03Good evening, church. Yeah, I'm going to
122. 4:04ask you three questions then you go
123. 4:05ahead and tell Look at how he used to
124. 4:07look.
125. 4:07Everyone say 2012.
126. 4:12Thank you, sir, for being here. Where
127. 4:14were you going before that accident
128. 4:16happened? Tell us that part. I was
129. 4:17traveling to Akwa Ibom state. From
130. 4:19where? From Owerri. I'm based in Owerri.
131. 4:21So, my pastor has approved my traveling
132. 4:24and as I got to a junction where we
133. 4:26enter Mbaise to Aba because it's about
134. 4:27two drops, I entered the vehicle that
135. 4:29will be taking me down to Aba. When we
136. 4:31got to Aba at the main park, which a lot
137. 4:34of us will know,
138. 4:35I entered the bus that you people saw
139. 4:36the picture
140. 4:38and sat at the front seat of the vehicle
141. 4:40waiting for the bus to go get filled.
142. 4:42But, I keep hearing a voice telling me
143. 4:43stand up, go to the last row and sit
144. 4:44down. I refused because I know how to
145. 4:46drive. I love sitting at the front seat
146. 4:47of vehicles just to see what the driver
147. 4:49is doing. The voice keep persuading, I
148. 4:51refused. I will look around, I won't see
149. 4:52anybody. It wasn't spiritual, it was
150. 4:54loud.
151. 4:55And the next thing I felt the hand of
152. 4:56somebody on my right hand arm draw me
153. 4:59out of the bus and I fell down with my
154. 5:01back.
155. 5:02And there was this fair lady seated by
156. 5:04my left side. So, when I stood up from
157. 5:06the ground, people started laughing at
158. 5:07the back that I'm on high knees and all
159. 5:08that. But, I turned
160. 5:09>> That you were on drugs or alcohol? Yes,
161. 5:11sir.
162. 5:12And I turned around and looked at the
163. 5:13lady that was seated by my
164. 5:14left-hand side. The next thing that
165. 5:16dropped in my mind, she has a spiritual
166. 5:17husband.
167. 5:18And the spiritual husband doesn't want
168. 5:20me to sit close to her.
169. 5:21Okay, you thought it was spiritual
170. 5:22husband? Yes, sir.
171. 5:24I never knew that God was just trying to
172. 5:25preserve this body from more damage than
173. 5:28it was.
174. 5:29So, I carried my back, went to the last
175. 5:30row that the voice told me to sit, the
176. 5:32driver's line, and sat down. Immediately
177. 5:35I sat there, there was no voice again,
178. 5:36there was complete peace.
179. 5:38And the journey after some time, the bus
180. 5:39got filled, we started our journey very
181. 5:41well heading to Akwa Ibom state.
182. 5:44And most of us that travel with Young
183. 5:45Shall Never Grow Old bus, we know how
184. 5:46they drive. The guy was on a very top
185. 5:48speed. People were complaining me I did
186. 5:49not complain. All I wanted to do is get
187. 5:51home early. So, I fixed my ear piece and
188. 5:53started playing game with my phone. You
189. 5:55were playing game with your phone? Yes,
190. 5:57sir.
191. 5:57>> Okay. People were busy shouting at him,
192. 5:59oh. Me, I did not say a word. So, they
193. 6:01even the person that sat by my side I
194. 6:02said, "You people should just leave the
195. 6:03guy. May we get home early." Because it
196. 6:05was getting late.
197. 6:06When we got to a place called Odorico at
198. 6:09a crossroad
199. 6:11with that speed the guy was
200. 6:13a trailer that do carry cement but has
201. 6:16finished uploading wheel from the right
202. 6:18side into the road and our driver saw it
203. 6:20with shock. Tried to hold the brake of
204. 6:22the bus only to realize automatic brake
205. 6:24failure. The brake wasn't working again.
206. 6:27So, somehow he was able to dodge to the
207. 6:29other side of the road
208. 6:31only for us to encounter an oncoming
209. 6:33truck again
210. 6:34filled with cement on a top speed
211. 6:36descending towards us.
212. 6:38And you cannot go to the left hand side
213. 6:39again because there is a deep pit that
214. 6:41if he falls in, nothing will come out
215. 6:43there. So, it was a situation whereby
216. 6:45whatever you believe, you call on that
217. 6:47person that moment. Some people call on
218. 6:49Jesus, other people call the name of
219. 6:50their parent but me, a pastor, I
220. 6:51couldn't even open my mouth to call on
221. 6:52God.
222. 6:53I was just looking at the whole
223. 6:54incident. I was I don't know whether to
224. 6:56call it shock but the next thing is that
225. 6:58I had the sound
226. 7:01and that was it.
227. 7:02The next thing is I found myself
228. 7:04standing outside the bus. How I came out
229. 7:06of the bus I don't know.
230. 7:07Who brought me out of the bus I can't
231. 7:09tell. I was worshipping God, thanking
232. 7:11God for saving my life from a fatal
233. 7:13accident like this. Because I look at
234. 7:14it, the bus was under this truck this
235. 7:17trailer and the trailer climbed it and
236. 7:19crushed it down.
237. 7:20That is when I knew why the voice told
238. 7:22me to stand up and go to the last row
239. 7:23and sit down.
240. 7:24Because the driver and the two passenger
241. 7:26in front they couldn't remove their head
242. 7:28or any part. Everything crushed them
243. 7:29that their brain popped out and was
244. 7:31scattered like meat everywhere. They
245. 7:33were using shovel and order iron to
246. 7:35remove human part, stuck it up in a sack
247. 7:38bag. So, how do those people even be
248. 7:39presented to the family to tell them,
249. 7:41"Your loved one is dead."?
250. 7:42The greatest blessing is the blessing of
251. 7:43life that when you go out there and come
252. 7:45back you give God praise. You don't know
253. 7:47what God has done for you because it's
254. 7:49not by our carefulness.
255. 7:51Okay, you were outside thanking God for
256. 7:53saving you. Yes, sir. What happened? As
257. 7:55I was thanking God, worshipping God,
258. 7:57suddenly people that were traveling in
259. 7:58the bus with me were at the crossroad
260. 8:00crying and weeping bitterly. Now, he was
261. 8:02on one side of the road. He saw other
262. 8:04people that were inside the bus on the
263. 8:05other side of the road crying.
264. 8:08Yes.
265. 8:09So, I said to myself, okay, let me go
266. 8:10and talk to them and encourage them. So,
267. 8:11I crossed the road down to where they
268. 8:13were. I started talking to them. I said,
269. 8:14you people should not cry. What you
270. 8:15should do is to join me to thank God for
271. 8:17saving our lives from a fatal accident.
272. 8:19If we were dead, you wouldn't be here
273. 8:21crying.
274. 8:23But instead of them to listen, it was as
275. 8:24if what I said did not make sense. And
276. 8:26at this point it was still getting dark
277. 8:28and I will explain why nothing changed
278. 8:29at that moment. So, I just said to
279. 8:31myself, okay, all of you know where you
280. 8:32came from. When you finish crying, you
281. 8:33will pack your things and go home. Me,
282. 8:36I'm going home. It's getting late. As I
283. 8:37was crossing the road back to the
284. 8:39accident scene where I will get my bag,
285. 8:41a Camry car passed through me. I only
286. 8:43felt it like air but did not knock me
287. 8:45down, not even a scratch.
288. 8:48And the next thing I said,
289. 8:49I had an accident. I did not have any
290. 8:50injury.
291. 8:52And now a car just passed through me. I
292. 8:53only felt it like air. Nothing happened
293. 8:54to me. That means the scripture that
294. 8:56says, I shall pass through the fire,
295. 8:58the fire shall not burn to me,
296. 9:00has just been a reality in my life.
297. 9:04I never knew Everybody come down. You
298. 9:05need to hear this.
299. 9:07I'm sure you're learning about the
300. 9:08inward man, the spirit man, and the
301. 9:09outward man. Okay, continue, sir. I
302. 9:12never knew that something has happened
303. 9:13to my body.
304. 9:15So, when I crossed the road, a lot of
305. 9:16people feel the accident scene and
306. 9:18wanted to see how to pull the bus out
307. 9:20from that truck so that they can get
308. 9:22people out, but then I did not know. So,
309. 9:23I said, a young man, I said, let me go
310. 9:25and help them. When I went to the place
311. 9:27and stood, stretched out my hand to
312. 9:28touch the bus, my hand was going through
313. 9:30the metal body of the bus but couldn't
314. 9:32touch it.
315. 9:33And the painful part is where I was
316. 9:34standing, another person came and stood
317. 9:35the same place. I was the one feeling
318. 9:37uncomfortable as if they brought two
319. 9:39magnets together. It was going front and
320. 9:41back but couldn't stand still. I had to
321. 9:43walk away and I was trying to comprehend
322. 9:45what has happened.
323. 9:46I touched my pocket, I couldn't find my
324. 9:48phone, I couldn't find my wallet, so I
325. 9:50needed to look for these things. So, I
326. 9:51turned around to where I sat down.
327. 9:55Immediately I put in my head at this
328. 9:56point they pulled up the bonnet of that
329. 9:58bus because it was crushed down. I saw
330. 10:01somebody that looks like me.
331. 10:03The same pattern of hair,
332. 10:05the same cloth I'm wearing the guy is
333. 10:06wearing it. My bag that I'm looking for
334. 10:08is on top of the guy's lap. The only
335. 10:10difference I wasn't wearing shoe only
336. 10:11cloth but that guy is wearing my shoe.
337. 10:14My earpiece is the one with it. The only
338. 10:16difference is that that guy is in pool
339. 10:18of blood. Blood was coming out of the
340. 10:19nose, the mouth, the ear and the hand
341. 10:21was twisted broken.
342. 10:22The same people I crossed the road to
343. 10:24talk to at the other side I see the same
344. 10:25people inside the bus.
345. 10:28So, I I can't remember having a twin
346. 10:29brother on earth. How come somebody is
347. 10:31looking like me? Does it mean I'm dead?
348. 10:32But to cut it short I finally realized
349. 10:34that I'm dead. So, me was standing
350. 10:36looking at me that is lifeless.
351. 10:38Looking for how to help me that is
352. 10:40lifeless to come back for us to join
353. 10:42together but there was that separation
354. 10:43that I couldn't help.
355. 10:45As we were there crying I now understood
356. 10:47why they were crying before me. They
357. 10:48already realized that we've crossed over
358. 10:50and immediately I knew that I'm dead
359. 10:51everything changed. There was nothing
360. 10:52like night, there was nothing like day,
361. 10:54there was nothing like sun, there was
362. 10:55nothing like moon. Everything was just
363. 10:56like that.
364. 10:58And I was start I joined them to cry
365. 11:00even more than they were doing. It was
366. 11:01as if we are competing who is going to
367. 11:03cry the most. But then what we needed
368. 11:05was God's intervention. At that point I
369. 11:07said to myself, we are only two in the
370. 11:08family and I'm the eldest. How are my
371. 11:11parents going to survive it? They can't
372. 11:12take this news. And he was traveling to
373. 11:14go and see his parents. I said God I
374. 11:16can't die. I am too young to die but
375. 11:19brethren nobody is too young to die.
376. 11:20Nobody is too old to die. Everybody is
377. 11:22qualified to die.
378. 11:24But are you dead in Christ? So, suddenly
379. 11:26when that thing was happening I had a
380. 11:27siren blowing
381. 11:29and I looked it was an ambulance. When
382. 11:31they got to the accident scene, the
383. 11:33first person they brought out of the bus
384. 11:35was my body. They dragged me out.
385. 11:38That even the broken glass was cutting
386. 11:39some part. And I was telling the person
387. 11:40dragging me to be careful. The person
388. 11:42wasn't hearing me. He wasn't seeing me.
389. 11:44He never noticed me. They laid me in the
390. 11:46ambulance. I look at the address of the
391. 11:47hospital. It did not take me a second.
392. 11:50In less than a I don't know how to
393. 11:52calculate that speed. I was in the
394. 11:53hospital waiting. Now, from where the
395. 11:55accident took place
396. 11:56down to the hospital is 45 minutes
397. 11:58drive.
398. 12:00I was now in the hospital waiting for
399. 12:01them to arrive with my body.
400. 12:03When they arrived, they brought me and
401. 12:04laid me on a roller. They were pushing
402. 12:05me. And me was following me, looking at
403. 12:08me that is lifeless, looking for help.
404. 12:10They pushed me into the emergency room.
405. 12:11People were everywhere, but nobody saw
406. 12:13me. They were seeing that one lying
407. 12:14there.
408. 12:15So, immediately I started begging the
409. 12:16nurses. Whatever you can do, do. I don't
410. 12:18want to die. They were not hearing me.
411. 12:20They were not seeing me.
412. 12:21Immediately the doctor came to check.
413. 12:23The next thing is that they started
414. 12:24sharpening something and putting it on
415. 12:25my chest three times.
416. 12:27It wasn't working. And he said, "He's
417. 12:29dead. See how you can get across and get
418. 12:31him to the mortuary." I shouted at him.
419. 12:33But he wasn't hearing me. I rushed to
420. 12:34hold the doctor because he was walking
421. 12:35away from my own bed. But immediately I
422. 12:37made that move, I was in front of him.
423. 12:39He was behind me. I turned around to
424. 12:42hold him on his shirt. He walked past my
425. 12:44body. And I turned around, I couldn't
426. 12:46help.
427. 12:47I started saying, "What is this?" I
428. 12:48screamed in that hospital.
429. 12:50Shouted. But all these people were not
430. 12:52seeing me. As I was screaming and
431. 12:54shouting, an elderly man walked up to me
432. 12:56and said, "Why are you disturbing the
433. 12:57peace of this environment?" I said, "Can
434. 12:59you hear me?" He said, "Yes." "Can you
435. 13:01see me?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Then
436. 13:02why is everybody making me feel as if
437. 13:03I'm dead?" He said, "The reason I can
438. 13:04see you is because I'm dead. You are
439. 13:06dead."
440. 13:07"Come, let's follow your body. Let's
441. 13:08know where they are taking you to, where
442. 13:09it is." I now understood that over there
443. 13:12nobody is interested in what you feel.
444. 13:14Because once you cross over, it's all
445. 13:16about you and your maker.
446. 13:18All these I want to die. Death is the
447. 13:20most lonely and painful thing you can
448. 13:22ever think, except you die in Christ.
449. 13:23So, when we got to the place, they
450. 13:25brought me down from the roller in the
451. 13:26mortuary, kept me, tore off my clothes.
452. 13:29Where I was lying down, used a pieces to
453. 13:31cover me because they were still keeping
454. 13:32me outside. And the mortuary had two
455. 13:33sections. And the man said, "Okay, this
456. 13:35is where they are keeping you too. So,
457. 13:36let's move." I followed him. We went
458. 13:38There was a bench in that hospital where
459. 13:40we sat down. And as we sat down, we were
460. 13:42discussing, he was telling me some
461. 13:43things, how long he has been in the
462. 13:44mortuary, what happened that he has not
463. 13:46been buried, that he has not rested yet.
464. 13:48A lot of things that wasn't really
465. 13:49making sense at that point. I told him,
466. 13:51"Okay, let me go home and see if I can
467. 13:53inform my people." He was now sending me
468. 13:55a message to his own people. I said,
469. 13:56"But you said I'm dead." He said, "This
470. 13:58is how we do here. So, that if you are
471. 14:00lucky to wake up again, you can go and
472. 14:02deliver the message for me."
473. 14:04So, I left him. Oh, while we were still
474. 14:06talking, some people that came to visit
475. 14:07their own patient came and just saw an
476. 14:09empty bench, not knowing that two ghosts
477. 14:10are sitting there. They just sat on top
478. 14:12of us. We were now the ones that stood
479. 14:14up for them. When we stood up, I left
480. 14:16the hospital down to the house. So, I
481. 14:18got to the house, walked through the
482. 14:19gate, walked through the iron door of
483. 14:21the house. Nothing could shield me
484. 14:23anymore. My dad was eating a bushy soup.
485. 14:25I can still remember very well, wearing
486. 14:27a white singlet, a sky blue short
487. 14:28knicker at the dining table. So, I
488. 14:30greeted him, "Daddy, good evening, sir."
489. 14:32Because when I left, it was evening. My
490. 14:33dad did not hear me, did not see me,
491. 14:35never knew that I'm around, but he was
492. 14:36expecting me. I greeted him again, he
493. 14:38did not say a word. So, I got angry, I
494. 14:39wanted to put my hand in the soup, push
495. 14:41something, create a scene just to get
496. 14:44his attention, but I couldn't. And my
497. 14:46mom just finished serving my dad food,
498. 14:47came out of the kitchen. Immediately she
499. 14:50came out, I saw her and I said, "Mommy."
500. 14:52I raised my hand to hug my mom. My mom
501. 14:54walked into my bedroom, the next thing
502. 14:55she screamed, "Jesus!"
503. 14:58So, my
504. 14:59>> Many a time women are more sensitive
505. 15:00spiritually than men. It's a fact.
506. 15:04It's a fact.
507. 15:06Go ahead.
508. 15:06>> So, suddenly, my dad asked him, "What is
509. 15:09it?" She said she doesn't know. At this
510. 15:10point, my mom felt cold. She started
511. 15:13shivering, goose bumps everywhere. My
512. 15:15dad said, "But what is the problem?" The
513. 15:17next thing my mom told him is, "Call
514. 15:18your son."
515. 15:19And he said, "But it's not been long we
516. 15:21spoke to him. Allow the young man before
517. 15:22we call and run down the battery." My
518. 15:24mom said, "Just call him." He said,
519. 15:25"We'll call, but allow him first. Let me
520. 15:26be done with eating."
521. 15:27That is how my mom fell sick at that
522. 15:29moment. So, when I couldn't get the
523. 15:30attention, I left them back to the
524. 15:32hospital.
525. 15:34At that point, they've taken me into the
526. 15:35mortuary. Dead body standing, casket
527. 15:37kept there, me on the floor.
528. 15:39I left the mortuary back to the accident
529. 15:41scene. Those people were still there,
530. 15:43and I joined them to cry.
531. 15:44We were crying and being broken. I said,
532. 15:47"God, I can't die. I'm too young to die.
533. 15:49I want to wake up." While we were still
534. 15:51crying and shouting, the ground started
535. 15:53vibrating and tore in a triangular form
536. 15:55into three places. I was standing alone
537. 15:58here, three people at my right-hand
538. 15:59side, and my left-hand side was 14
539. 16:02people. It was an 18-seater bus.
540. 16:04And nobody can cross. There was just
541. 16:06this force that cannot allow you to
542. 16:07cross or by any means. So, I screamed,
543. 16:10"Earthquake, rapture. Is this how
544. 16:11rapture wanted to take place? Where am I
545. 16:13going to spend my eternity?" So, I know
546. 16:15that when we will go to heaven, we'll be
547. 16:16going up. So, I started jumping up. When
548. 16:18I jump up, I will come down. I jump up,
549. 16:21I will come down. So, the reality of
550. 16:22hell was before me. Brethren, you might
551. 16:25not know the Bible now, but when you
552. 16:26cross over, you will know from Genesis
553. 16:27to Revelation. And your judgment will be
554. 16:29before you. You don't need anybody to
555. 16:31explain what will happen. You already
556. 16:32know where you are going. So, at this
557. 16:34point, I was crying, shouting. Suddenly,
558. 16:36it was as if everywhere changed. The
559. 16:38sounds of thunder and all that. And the
560. 16:41next thing, that kind of light that is
561. 16:43you cannot compare with anything filled
562. 16:45everywhere. And I turned around, I saw
563. 16:47two beings. They were tall, huge. No man
564. 16:51on earth has that height.
565. 16:52And they were wearing a sparkling white.
566. 16:55They had a golden hair, and they were
567. 16:57They had wings. They were just flapping
568. 16:58their feathers as if they want to fly.
569. 17:00And I said, "These could be angels, but
570. 17:01I wasn't so sure. I needed to ask them
571. 17:03to know who they were." So, I asked
572. 17:05them, "Who are you people?" They just
573. 17:06smiled at me and separated into two.
574. 17:08Nobody answered me. One to my right-hand
575. 17:10side, the other to my left-hand side. I
576. 17:12kept asking, but there was no response.
577. 17:14But suddenly, a light that is more than
578. 17:17their own. A hundred times that even the
579. 17:20sun is low current compared to that
580. 17:21light. It was everywhere that the person
581. 17:24we've not seen but just the light. I saw
582. 17:26these two beings fell to their knees,
583. 17:27used their wings to cover their face,
584. 17:30bowed down to the ground.
585. 17:32So, I joined them, knelt down, bent down
586. 17:34to the ground.
587. 17:35The more the light keep coming, the more
588. 17:37it seems like I was getting lighter.
589. 17:38Like things were leaving me that I can't
590. 17:39just explain.
591. 17:41And I started begging the direction of
592. 17:42the light without knowing who it was. I
593. 17:44said, "Please, whoever you are, turn
594. 17:46down your light. It's affecting my eyes.
595. 17:48I'm a human being like you."
596. 17:51And the person did not say a word.
597. 17:53>> You told the person that you're a human
598. 17:54being like him.
599. 17:55>> Yes, sir. And he should turn down the
600. 17:56light.
601. 17:56>> Yes, sir. I never knew that it was Jesus
602. 17:59coming in his glory and supremacy.
603. 18:02I kept begging. There was no response.
604. 18:04At a point, I felt the presence of a
605. 18:06being around. He just said, "Victorize."
606. 18:08I said, "Please, turn down your light. I
607. 18:10can't. It's affecting my eyes. I'm a
608. 18:12human being like you. Help me."
609. 18:14He did not say a word. He just waited.
610. 18:16But suddenly, there was this courage to
611. 18:18look up, which I know he gave me that
612. 18:20courage to really look up and know who
613. 18:21he was. When I looked, the garment he
614. 18:23was wearing covered his foot that I did
615. 18:25not see his foot. But it was full of
616. 18:27glory that I don't have the words to
617. 18:28describe. I looked at him like I arrived
618. 18:30at his waist. He was wearing a golden
619. 18:31belt.
620. 18:32More than anything you can measure with
621. 18:34spreading two of his palms. But on that
622. 18:37palm, there was a big hole. Blood was
623. 18:40still gushing out of that hand. And when
624. 18:42that blood was dropping, I got
625. 18:43terrified. Who could this person be? I
626. 18:45removed my face. I kept on looking. When
627. 18:47I arrived at the chest, I couldn't go
628. 18:49further because the kind of light coming
629. 18:51from his face is like fire and it's like
630. 18:54light at the same time that you cannot
631. 18:55create out a picture of his face at that
632. 18:57moment. But I saw something engraved on
633. 18:59his chest with a golden ink, king of
634. 19:03kings.
635. 19:04Something dropped in me. This could be
636. 19:06Jesus. But I wasn't so sure. So, I
637. 19:07wanted to ask him to know who he was.
638. 19:09But before I could open my mouth, he
639. 19:11started introducing himself to me. He
640. 19:12said, "I am he that was dead,
641. 19:14but I live forever." And each sound he
642. 19:17made, they were trembling. That even the
643. 19:19angels were still kneeling down, bowing
644. 19:21to the earth. They were not looking at
645. 19:22him, talking to me. And I continued, he
646. 19:24said,
647. 19:25"From edge to edge, I remain the same. I
648. 19:28am the king of kings and the lord of
649. 19:29lords. I am the creator of the whole
650. 19:31universe." And he said, "Behold, I have
651. 19:32the keys of heaven and hell. I have
652. 19:34overcome death. I have overcome grave. I
653. 19:36have overcome the world." He raised up
654. 19:38his two hands and said, "I am Jesus."
655. 19:42Brethren, I never knew
656. 19:44that the man we talk about was standing
657. 19:46before me.
658. 19:47I started shivering at that point.
659. 19:50I did not know what to say.
660. 19:52But I remember that something brought me
661. 19:53here here.
662. 19:54And I asked him, "Am I truly dead?"
663. 19:56And he said, "Not really, but for just
664. 19:5825 seconds."
665. 19:59That 25 seconds turned to be 3 days on
666. 20:01earth.
667. 20:03He turned around and looked at the
668. 20:04angels.
669. 20:10He said, "Take him on the 25-second
670. 20:12journey.
671. 20:13I will be with you people soon."
672. 20:15We did not see him again.
673. 20:17And the angels turned around and said,
674. 20:18"Victor, we are mandated to take you on
675. 20:19a 25-second journey.
676. 20:21Come with us." I followed them. We
677. 20:22climbed on a flat lift. The thing, I
678. 20:23don't know what to call it. It looks
679. 20:25like crystal, like glass. And it started
680. 20:26lifting us up. That we got to a very
681. 20:28high mountain. You see, they have
682. 20:29traveling their spacecraft in that other
683. 20:32world. They have flying horses, they
684. 20:33have all kinds of things, you know. Yes,
685. 20:35go ahead.
686. 20:36We got to a very high mountain. I don't
687. 20:38know which mountain it is. They did not
688. 20:39give me the name. They asked me to come
689. 20:41down. I came down. And they said,
690. 20:42"Victor, on this mountain, you can see
691. 20:43the whole world. Look down. Tell us what
692. 20:45you see. And get the message." I looked
693. 20:47down the first time, billions of people
694. 20:49were just going to their normal
695. 20:50businesses and activities. Nothing. So,
696. 20:52I turned around and told them, "This is
697. 20:54what I saw." They said, "Look deep
698. 20:56and tell us what you see." I looked the
699. 20:57second time, it was still the same
700. 20:58thing. They said, "Do these people look
701. 21:00like swines that have no control? Look
702. 21:02deep down, there are few that have
703. 21:04control." When I looked down the third
704. 21:06time, I saw that a little handful of
705. 21:08these billions, anything they do, they
706. 21:10look up to the sky. Somebody will drive
707. 21:13and look up to the sky. When I turn
708. 21:14around and tell them, "This is what I
709. 21:15saw the third time." They said, "Yes,
710. 21:17that the fuel that I saw that a little
711. 21:19thing they do, they look up to the sky,
712. 21:20are like the five wise virgins. They are
713. 21:23the people with the consciousness of
714. 21:24heaven. They are the people that are
715. 21:25waiting for the coming of Jesus." But
716. 21:27that the other ones that are busy going
717. 21:29to their normal world activity are like
718. 21:31the five foolish virgins. They are the
719. 21:33people that are working with the world.
720. 21:35The world are using. Man die go, woman
721. 21:37born another. But they never sit down to
722. 21:39ask themselves, the man that died and
723. 21:40go, where did he go to? And the woman
724. 21:42will give birth to another, where would
725. 21:44that one end up? And when they said
726. 21:46that, they showed me another thing. All
727. 21:48these kind of atrocity, war against
728. 21:50nation, family, and all that. And
729. 21:52immediately I turn around and said, "Why
730. 21:53is heaven so heartless to let this thing
731. 21:56to be happening to humanity?"
732. 21:57They said, "No."
733. 21:59Is And they said, "No, that heaven is
734. 22:01not heartless. That heaven loves
735. 22:03humanity. But that what I'm seeing is
736. 22:04the fulfillment of the prophecy of the
737. 22:07end time." They said, "Haven't you read
738. 22:08what the scripture says that at the end
739. 22:09time people will become lovers of
740. 22:10themselves? And all these things have
741. 22:12been written down." And they said, "If
742. 22:13everything that was that was written
743. 22:15down doesn't take place, take note,
744. 22:17rapture will not take place." And
745. 22:18immediately they said that, they showed
746. 22:19me so many other things, but they took
747. 22:20me away. We started descending into a
748. 22:23tunnel. That tunnel is very big, very
749. 22:26wide, very dark. The odor of the tunnel
750. 22:29was oozing that I was so uncomfortable.
751. 22:32It was as if I'm being put into fire,
752. 22:34the heat I was feeling. And I started
753. 22:35begging them. I said, "Please,
754. 22:37take me back to where we came from. I
755. 22:38don't want to come here with you
756. 22:39people." They said, "No, Victor, you
757. 22:40need to follow us here for you to know
758. 22:42where we are taking you to, how it looks
759. 22:43like, what it feels like, and what
760. 22:45brought people here." I said, "Please,
761. 22:46let's take another way." They did not
762. 22:48speak any again to me. And they talk
763. 22:50only when they are permitted. They don't
764. 22:52talk when they are not permitted. They
765. 22:53don't engage into discussion with me.
766. 22:54Suddenly we got to where my two legs
767. 22:56were stable on the ground.
768. 22:58And the same light we saw filled
769. 23:00everywhere. We saw it again. When we
770. 23:02turned, it was Jesus. We bowed down and
771. 23:03worshipped him. And he came close to me
772. 23:05and said, "Victor, I'm going to show you
773. 23:06my divine revelation of hell. I'm going
774. 23:08to bring up people to tell you why they
775. 23:09are here. I'm going to show you what it
776. 23:11looks like, what it feels like, and what
777. 23:12brought people here. I'm going to show
778. 23:14you where demons are having meeting and
779. 23:15the covenant that a lot of people from
780. 23:17the world are having with the kingdom of
781. 23:18darkness." And suddenly I could only see
782. 23:20where I was standing to be the
783. 23:21beginning. I couldn't see the end of it.
784. 23:23It was so wide like an endless water.
785. 23:26And I became scared because I felt like
786. 23:27I might be thrown in there.
787. 23:29And suddenly they brought up the first
788. 23:31person. And I asked him, "Why are you
789. 23:35here?" And Jesus said,
790. 23:36>> So, I hope you're getting the gist. This
791. 23:38fire is liquid fire.
792. 23:40It's not like bush fire.
793. 23:42Anyway, go ahead. The fire burns like it
794. 23:44It's just like a volcano. And every
795. 23:46moment of your life there is heating up
796. 23:48more and more, more and more. It doesn't
797. 23:50reduce. And suddenly when they brought
798. 23:51up the first person, maggot was entering
799. 23:54his nose, entering the mouth, coming out
800. 23:56of the anus. He became restless.
801. 23:58Anything called hole in his body.
802. 24:00It They were worms and maggot. And it
803. 24:02was so
804. 24:04terrifying that I couldn't look. And
805. 24:05Jesus said, "Look at him." And I looked.
806. 24:07He said, "Look at him very well so that
807. 24:09you will know what people suffer here."
808. 24:10And I looked even when I was shivering.
809. 24:13And he I asked, "Why are you here?" And
810. 24:15Jesus said, "Selfishness with the
811. 24:17gospel."
812. 24:18And I said, "I don't understand. Which
813. 24:19one is selfishness with the gospel?" He
814. 24:21said, "I gave him the message to preach
815. 24:22freely, but he started selling out the
816. 24:24message to the people. That anytime he
817. 24:26is invited for a program, he will be
818. 24:27bargaining price with the people that
819. 24:28invited him. If those people cannot give
820. 24:31him that money, he will not go for that
821. 24:32program. And the souls that would have
822. 24:34been won to the kingdom will end up
823. 24:35perishing." So, this is a preacher.
824. 24:37Continue. And not just that, that also
825. 24:40he used fake prophecy to extort money
826. 24:42from people. The hell wrote that one in
827. 24:44They brought up another person. And I
828. 24:45asked, "Why are you here?" And Jesus
829. 24:48said, "Look at him. Do you know him?" I
830. 24:49said, "No." He said, "Look at him
831. 24:50closely. Do you know him?" I still said,
832. 24:52"No." He said, "Look at him the third
833. 24:53time." I still said, "No." He mentioned
834. 24:55the name of the man and I shouted. I
835. 24:56said, "If this one could be in hell,
836. 24:58what am I doing in ministry?" And Jesus
837. 25:00said, "My grace is sufficient to as many
838. 25:02that need it." And I asked, "Why is he
839. 25:05here in hell?" And Jesus said, "He took
840. 25:07my glory to himself."
841. 25:09And I said, "I don't understand." He
842. 25:10said, "I gave him the power to heal the
843. 25:13sick, to raise the dead, to perform
844. 25:14different kind of miracle. He failed to
845. 25:16return the glory back to me. He started
846. 25:18seeing himself like the one doing those
847. 25:19things. And because of that, he was
848. 25:21brought here." And when I was saying
849. 25:23that, and Jesus said, "It's not just
850. 25:24that that pride came into him and he
851. 25:26changed the gospel." He said, "Victor, I
852. 25:28am no respecter of any man. If my father
853. 25:31cannot compromise the standard of heaven
854. 25:32with I the son, neither will I the son
855. 25:34compromise the standard of heaven with
856. 25:36any man. But tell man I love man with an
857. 25:38everlasting love. I did not make hell
858. 25:40for man. I made it for the fallen
859. 25:42angels. Why has man decided to go to
860. 25:44hell? Where we will spend our eternity
861. 25:46is in our hands and our decision."
862. 25:48Suddenly,
863. 25:49Yes, go ahead. Suddenly, hell rolled
864. 25:51that man in. They brought up another
865. 25:53lady and I asked, "Why is she here in
866. 25:56hell?" And Jesus said, "Materialism."
867. 25:59But that one we know what material
868. 26:00things is, but the next one was the one
869. 26:01that shocked me.
870. 26:03He said she is a robber of souls. And I
871. 26:05said, "I don't understand. How can
872. 26:06somebody be a robber of souls?" He said,
873. 26:08"I gave her this beauty as a means of
874. 26:10sowing, for her to use her beauty to be
875. 26:12winning souls to the kingdom, but
876. 26:14instead, she's using her beauty to be
877. 26:15robbing souls from my kingdom by
878. 26:17seducing people, changing her walking
879. 26:18step, and making people to lust after
880. 26:20her."
881. 26:21And Jesus gave the number of souls that
882. 26:22she had.
883. 26:23And that is why she was being brought to
884. 26:24hell.
885. 26:25They brought up another person. Hell
886. 26:27rolled that one in. They brought up
887. 26:28another person. Some of them they gave
888. 26:29me the years they stayed, but I don't
889. 26:31want to go into that one. And I asked,
890. 26:33"Why is she here in hell?" And Jesus
891. 26:35said, "Unforgiveness." And I just said
892. 26:37in my mind, I said, "Oh, I know already
893. 26:38that one." And Jesus looked at me and
894. 26:40said, "It's not just about you not
895. 26:42forgiving, that anytime we don't
896. 26:43forgive, mercy is withheld from that
897. 26:45person.
898. 26:46That you are to forgive so that your
899. 26:48father who is in heaven can also forgive
900. 26:49you and show you mercy. But when you
901. 26:51don't forgive, mercy will not be shown
902. 26:52to you. Hell rolled that one in. And I
903. 26:55talked about one last person before I
904. 26:56talked on another section. They brought
905. 26:58up another person, and I asked, "Why is
906. 27:00she here in hell?" He said, "Abortion."
907. 27:02We know what abortion is, but it did not
908. 27:04stop at just you committing the
909. 27:05abortion. Anytime you commit an
910. 27:07abortion, you've shortened your lifespan
911. 27:09on Earth. That was what Jesus told me
912. 27:11with his own mouth. And he did not just
913. 27:13stop there. He said, "Anybody, whether
914. 27:15the doctor, whether the person that
915. 27:17advised it, or whoever it is, you are
916. 27:19part of that course.
917. 27:20But, anywhere you share this message, as
918. 27:22many that will repent and confess, I
919. 27:24will restore the years that have been
920. 27:26taken away back to them. Warn them not
921. 27:28to go back to eat anymore." They took me
922. 27:30to another section of hell. It was
923. 27:32demons that were having meetings sitting
924. 27:34there. But, the thing that shocked me is
925. 27:35that people keep appearing there, coming
926. 27:37there for meeting, even pastors were
927. 27:39coming to attend that meeting, too.
928. 27:41And I was being scared, and Jesus said I
929. 27:43shouldn't worry, I should come and
930. 27:44stand, that nothing will happen to me.
931. 27:45And I came and stood, and he opened my
932. 27:47ears to hear what they were discussing
933. 27:49there. How they will make the churches
934. 27:50to become prayerless. How they will make
935. 27:52churches to become a place where there
936. 27:54is no fire. How they will make pastors
937. 27:55to start preaching lies and false
938. 27:57gospel. How they will make pastors to
939. 27:58become false prophet.
940. 28:00And how they will make
941. 28:01the people to be giving glory to man,
942. 28:03not to God anymore. And because of that,
943. 28:06that is why and some of them had the
944. 28:07seal of Satan.
945. 28:08They took me away from that section to
946. 28:10another section where they were
947. 28:11producing different kind of things. And
948. 28:14I asked, "If all these things are being
949. 28:16produced here, we use them in the world.
950. 28:17So, how do we survive when we are using
951. 28:20this thing?" They said, "By applying the
952. 28:22blood of Jesus. That anytime you get
953. 28:24anything, let the blood be presented
954. 28:26there."
955. 28:27So, suddenly we left hell, we appeared
956. 28:29at a realm. People keep appearing in
957. 28:31their thousands, in their hundreds, and
958. 28:33I in their millions. And I asked them,
959. 28:35"What kind of line is this?" They said,
960. 28:36"The line of being born again that leads
961. 28:38you to the first judgment table." They
962. 28:40took me to the front of that line. There
963. 28:41was a very big book. An angel was there
964. 28:43busy opening, looking into it. When you
965. 28:45appear, they will check if your name is
966. 28:46there. I asked [music] what kind of book
967. 28:48is that? They said the book of being
968. 28:49born again. That being born again is not
969. 28:52a guarantee that you will enter heaven,
970. 28:54but it qualifies you that you are heaven
971. 28:56candidate.
972. 28:58We passed there. We entered the right
973. 29:00side because there are two ways there
974. 29:01after that place. When we entered the
975. 29:03right side of that place, it was the
976. 29:05streets of gold. The Bible said we shall
977. 29:06walk on the street of gold. I forgot who
978. 29:08were taking me around. I started telling
979. 29:09myself, "If they give me the option to
980. 29:11choose between to stay back or to go, I
981. 29:14won't waste time down to I'm staying."
982. 29:15When we got to the first gate, a very
983. 29:17mighty golden gate, there were huge
984. 29:20angels standing there. They opened and
985. 29:21they and told me, "Welcome, Brother
986. 29:22Victor." I entered. Immediately I
987. 29:24stepped in my foot, there was a big
988. 29:26table. A book was there. An angel was
989. 29:28there, but that angel was the busiest so
990. 29:30far that I saw. It's not like I saw all
991. 29:31the angels in heaven. He was busy
992. 29:33cleaning and writing, cleaning and
993. 29:35writing, cleaning and writing. And I
994. 29:37walked up to him. He said, "Welcome,
995. 29:38Brother Victor." I told him, "Thank you.
996. 29:40What are you doing?" He did not respond
997. 29:41to me. I asked and asked. He did not say
998. 29:42a word. I turned around and said to the
999. 29:44angel that was taking me around, "Why is
1000. 29:45he behaving like this? Why is he
1001. 29:46snubbing me?" They said, "He is only
1002. 29:48permitted to welcome you here. He is not
1003. 29:50permitted to engage into any discussion
1004. 29:52with you."
1005. 29:52And I asked them, "What kind of book is
1006. 29:54that?" They said "The book of life." I
1007. 29:56asked them, "Why is he busy cleaning and
1008. 29:58writing?" They said, "Anytime anybody
1009. 29:59accept Jesus as his Lord and personal
1010. 30:01savior, your name has been written in
1011. 30:03that book.
1012. 30:04But if you commit sin, your name is
1013. 30:05cleaned out
1014. 30:07immediately. And another person that is
1015. 30:09either doing restitution or reconciling
1016. 30:11with God, his name is replaced on your
1017. 30:12own place. That the first will become
1018. 30:14the last. The last will become the
1019. 30:16first. They took me away from there. We
1020. 30:18were approaching the second gate. There
1021. 30:20was a young man, younger than I'm
1022. 30:21looking.
1023. 30:22He was busy dancing, being happy. And I
1024. 30:24was just looking at him. They said,
1025. 30:25"That is Brother David." And I started
1026. 30:27thinking in my church who could be the
1027. 30:28Brother David that I know. They said,
1028. 30:30"The man you people call King David in
1029. 30:31the Bible is no longer king here. Here
1030. 30:33we have only one king, and that is the
1031. 30:34King of kings." Okay. So, we after the
1032. 30:37very book, as we were approaching the
1033. 30:38third gate, I saw a lady.
1034. 30:41She was just strolling around.
1035. 30:43And I was looking at her. They said,
1036. 30:44"That is Sister Mary." I said, "Ah,
1037. 30:46Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ?" They
1038. 30:48said, "She is not the mother of Jesus
1039. 30:51Jesus Christ. She was just a vessel used
1040. 30:53to fulfill the prophecy at that time."
1041. 30:56And I asked them, "Okay, what about
1042. 30:57those people that pray and ask her to
1043. 30:59pray for them?" They answered me that
1044. 31:01question with a question. They said,
1045. 31:02"Look at her over there." And I looked.
1046. 31:03They said, "As you are seeing her over
1047. 31:04there, is she praying?"
1048. 31:07Mary is not praying in heaven.
1049. 31:09The Bible already made us to understand
1050. 31:10we have only one mediator, which is
1051. 31:12Jesus.