Partition - The Day India Burned BBC 2007 (Full Documentary) — Transcript
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- 0:00foreign
- 0:03[Music]
- 0:10[Music]
- 0:14August
- 0:151947. the British are quitting India
- 0:19nearly 200 years after they took power
- 0:23[Applause]
- 0:26one of the largest most ethnically
- 0:28diverse nations in the world has been
- 0:30divided
- 0:32one country will now become two
- 0:34India and Pakistan
- 0:39as a British Barrister draws a line on a
- 0:41map a once peaceful land implodes
- 0:44[Music]
- 0:47people are forced out of the villages
- 0:49they have lived in for Generations
- 0:5115 million scramble to be on the right
- 0:53side of the new border at least one
- 0:56million die in the process
- 0:58and in this huge mess of humanity just
- 1:02moving along barefooted
- 1:05no food thirsty for the terrible site
- 1:08terrible sight
- 1:11communities that have lived together for
- 1:13centuries turn on each other in one of
- 1:15the worst communal massacres of the 20th
- 1:17century
- 1:18so senseless so utterly senseless
- 1:22and yet there's nothing you can do about
- 1:24it
- 1:25Britain the once great colonial power
- 1:28looks on as India Burns
- 1:33Hindus and Muslims were in the grip of
- 1:36Madness you know lunacy lunacy
- 1:44foreign
- 1:49[Music]
- 1:57[Applause]
- 2:03[Music]
- 2:061946 British India was largely at peace
- 2:12on the surface there was communal
- 2:14Harmony between Hindus Muslims and Sikhs
- 2:18[Music]
- 2:20foreign
- 2:21[Music]
- 2:27part of your village
- 2:29I remember Hindus and six living side by
- 2:33side you know living with us you know
- 2:36not far from where I lived you know and
- 2:38whenever there was any wedding in the
- 2:41family I remember the Hindus and the six
- 2:44bringing sweet meats you know to my
- 2:46father you know you see an offering and
- 2:48we live very happily very happily
- 2:54in British India the 255 million Hindus
- 2:58were in a majority
- 3:00India's 92 million Muslims were
- 3:02concentrated in the Northwest and
- 3:04Northeast of the country
- 3:06The Six Million Sikhs lived mostly in
- 3:08the Punjab one of the richest and most
- 3:10diverse provinces in India
- 3:13Lahore was its ancient capital
- 3:20[Music]
- 3:23Lahore was one of the most Cosmopolitan
- 3:25cities in the country
- 3:27a center for education and fashion
- 3:39rodit Khan a Muslim had left his village
- 3:42to study law and history at lahore's
- 3:44Foreman Christian College
- 3:46Lahore took my breath away you know
- 3:49as a
- 3:51it was a different city you know it and
- 3:53it was a different world
- 4:01[Applause]
- 4:03it was very
- 4:05liberal
- 4:07very tolerant
- 4:10very Progressive
- 4:12Institution
- 4:17[Music]
- 4:22at the same time someone and a Hindu was
- 4:25in his final year of school in one of
- 4:27lahore's fashionable suburbs
- 4:29the fashions in Lahore became popular
- 4:33all over Punjab not only in Punjab but
- 4:36in Northern India
- 4:40[Music]
- 4:46[Applause]
- 4:49so there was a famous saying in Punjabi
- 4:53that the person who has not seen Lahore
- 4:56has not been born yet yet to people
- 5:04in a few months time the Peace of this
- 5:06ancient city would be shattered
- 5:09[Music]
- 5:16for nearly 200 years Britain ruled over
- 5:19India's 380 million people
- 5:23India was the centerpiece of Britain's
- 5:25Empire a source of money and power
- 5:28[Applause]
- 5:31for the British who were stationed there
- 5:34life had changed little in decades
- 5:37[Music]
- 5:40[Applause]
- 5:45John Moors an officer to a Gurkha
- 5:48regiment had been in India for a year
- 5:54we had a hunt
- 5:56and they'd imported these harms possibly
- 5:59in the twenties or somewhere like that
- 6:01and they used to hunt uh Jackal the
- 6:03tribes and would come in with a live
- 6:05Jackal and um
- 6:07release them eventually and then the
- 6:10hunt would take it out and try try
- 6:12chasing them but then you had to have a
- 6:14whole Brigade out defending the hunters
- 6:18they would be deployed all around over
- 6:2070 miles
- 6:32for decades Indians had fought to rid
- 6:35themselves of British rule
- 6:37the independence movement had been kept
- 6:39in check by ruthless military force
- 6:42but by 1946
- 6:44everything had changed
- 6:46World War II had left Britain bankrupt
- 6:50[Applause]
- 6:52Mr Moore's and the other British troops
- 6:55knew that they would be the last
- 6:57we knew that having come through a very
- 7:00expensive World War
- 7:03the cost of maintaining
- 7:06an Army in India following the the Far
- 7:10East War we realized that you know the
- 7:12equitness couldn't be paid for the
- 7:14taxpayer England's in a bad State
- 7:15particularly
- 7:174647 financially
- 7:21[Music]
- 7:24but India's independence leaders were
- 7:27divided over what should happen when
- 7:28Britain left
- 7:29the Indian National Congress under its
- 7:32leaders Pandit Nero and Mahatma Gandhi
- 7:34demanded a single state where all
- 7:36religions would live side by side
- 7:39but many Muslims feared living under a
- 7:41Hindu majority
- 7:47even in the middle class homes of Lahore
- 7:49ancient prejudices ran deep
- 7:53at one level they were they had very
- 7:57cordial relations our Muslim neighbors
- 8:00were very good they helped us we helped
- 8:03them but she Hindus headache curious
- 8:09inhibitions
- 8:15my mother's attitude she didn't allow
- 8:19any Muslim to enter her kitchen any
- 8:22cooked things from a Muslim home was not
- 8:25allowed to enter the kitchen
- 8:28when she was eating she would not allow
- 8:30her Muslim neighbors the lady to touch
- 8:34her
- 8:35so such inhibitions and Customs they
- 8:39they kept us apart
- 8:45in lahore's Old City Muslims were
- 8:48forbidden from drinking from the same
- 8:49Taps as Hindus
- 8:51[Music]
- 8:55a Muslim was a champion wrestler from
- 8:58The Old City
- 9:07foreign
- 9:39and they always wanted that's why the
- 9:42slogan of a Muslim Homeland became very
- 9:45popular among the Muslims
- 9:48[Music]
- 9:53Muslim fears that Hindus would dominate
- 9:56an independent India drove the demand
- 9:58for a separate Muslim Homeland
- 10:00[Music]
- 10:08it was championed principally by one man
- 10:10a 70 year old British educated Barrister
- 10:13Muhammad Ali Jinnah
- 10:15his Muslim League demanded the division
- 10:17of India into two one country for the
- 10:20Hindus and Sikhs and another for the
- 10:22Muslims
- 10:25once the British leave
- 10:27and there will be a democratic form of
- 10:29government you see you know but in a
- 10:31democratic form of government the Hindus
- 10:33will always be in the majority and the
- 10:35Muslim will always be in a minority we
- 10:37have no chance our minority will never
- 10:39be transformed into a majority you know
- 10:41and the Hindu majority will always
- 10:43remain a permanent majority therefore we
- 10:45have no chance
- 10:47Bandit nehru the leader of Congress
- 10:49toured the country arguing the case for
- 10:52a United India
- 10:54[Music]
- 10:57whole idea that that India should be
- 11:00divided uh was based on a fantastic
- 11:05notion that religion constitutes
- 11:08nationality
- 11:13Segal lived with her uncle pantidner
- 11:20while I was growing up the entire
- 11:22national movement which had cut across
- 11:24religion region
- 11:27caste class
- 11:29sex
- 11:30you know it had been a truly unifying
- 11:32experience so for a person like me it
- 11:34was it was an absurd idea that India
- 11:37should be divided made no sense of any
- 11:39kind
- 11:44clouds gather over similar for the
- 11:47opening of Lord weibel's conference with
- 11:48the Indian leaders in March 1946 a
- 11:51British government delegation the
- 11:53cabinet Mission arrived to negotiate
- 11:55between Congress and the league
- 11:58this was supposed to be the Breakthrough
- 11:59conference where a deal would be struck
- 12:01leading to an independent India
- 12:04Pandit Nero who calls for an Indian
- 12:06Republic is Accused by the league of
- 12:08working for Domination over the Muslim
- 12:10minority Jinnah did compromise at his
- 12:12demand for a separate Muslim State he
- 12:15accepted a United India if it had weak
- 12:17central powers but Nero a socialist and
- 12:21believer in a strong Central State
- 12:22refused any such concessions to the
- 12:25Muslim League Mr Jinnah the Muslim
- 12:27leader holds fast to Pakistan and it's
- 12:29reported that his maximum concessions
- 12:31were regarded by Congress as inadequate
- 12:33at any rate the faithful conference at
- 12:35Simla following the preliminary work in
- 12:37Delhi has ended in failure
- 12:40[Music]
- 12:46[Music]
- 12:48Calcutta a stronghold of the Muslim
- 12:51League August the 16th 1946.
- 12:55[Music]
- 13:07with the collapse of negotiations Jinnah
- 13:11called for direct action
- 13:14thousands of Muslims gathered in the
- 13:16center of the city to demand a separate
- 13:18Homeland Pakistan
- 13:20[Music]
- 13:28[Applause]
- 13:34as the crowds dispersed the more radical
- 13:37elements headed for the Hindu parts of
- 13:39the city
- 13:43thank you
- 13:55I was thinking of going out for a stroll
- 13:59and then all of a sudden I found some
- 14:03Muslim hoodlums
- 14:05they came out shouted
- 14:12Allah is the Great Master
- 14:14[Applause]
- 14:18[Music]
- 14:23local gangsters hijack the demonstration
- 14:27they whipped up the mob and it turned
- 14:29violent
- 14:31then I found that dead neighbor
- 14:34who had come out
- 14:39come out and they bleeding
- 14:41so
- 14:42I thought that going out would be
- 14:45absolutely full honey
- 14:47then these boys they started hitting the
- 14:51doors
- 14:52and they said that we will not spare any
- 14:55Hindu
- 15:04as the city erupted in communal violence
- 15:06Muslim Slaughter of Hindus turned a
- 15:09Hindu Slaughter of Muslims
- 15:12Shankar gosh was covering the riots for
- 15:15a Calcutta newspaper a Jewelery shop was
- 15:20surrounded by a crowd armed with iron
- 15:24rods
- 15:30an elderly employee
- 15:32he was already half dead in fear
- 15:37he came with his folded hands like this
- 15:42but these Furious mob they had no time
- 15:48to hear what
- 15:51he wanted to say
- 15:53I think a boy of 14 or 15 just pulled
- 15:57his leg as he came out
- 15:59and the man fell down
- 16:02and someone
- 16:06hit him on the head with another Rod I
- 16:08think that one blow had finished him
- 16:13[Music]
- 16:17around 5 000 people were killed in three
- 16:20days of rioting
- 16:23[Music]
- 16:26but the British with one eye on leaving
- 16:29India and fearful of being overrun
- 16:31ordered the troops to stay in their
- 16:33Barracks until it was too late
- 16:38[Music]
- 16:40we had absolute faith in British
- 16:43Authority we had absolute faith in the
- 16:46peace that British
- 16:49had given us
- 16:51for three days there was no sign of
- 16:54authority on the streets and it was
- 16:57anybody could murder anybody
- 17:01[Music]
- 17:12the Calcutta killings shattered the hope
- 17:15of the British that they could get out
- 17:17of India quietly and peacefully
- 17:20with religious hatred and suspicion
- 17:22growing the dream of United India seemed
- 17:25to be falling apart
- 17:30Crown Chopra was a young reporter for
- 17:33all India radio at the time of the riots
- 17:36until then there was still the
- 17:38possibility that there could be an
- 17:41undivided India
- 17:43that impression evaporated
- 17:46In the Heat of what was doing what came
- 17:49to be known as the great Calcutta
- 17:51killings
- 17:53once that impact spread through the rest
- 17:57of the country the hope that India could
- 18:00remain undivided began to vanish
- 18:07after Calcutta the violence spread in
- 18:10Bihar Hindus largely massacred Muslims
- 18:13in locally in Bengal it was Hindus who
- 18:16were mostly under attack
- 18:18with British power waning India was in
- 18:20danger of falling apart in the chaos of
- 18:22communal violence
- 18:24one man thought he could bring the
- 18:26country together and maintain the dream
- 18:27of a United India Mahatma Gandhi
- 18:32Ashoka Gupta was one of Gandhi's
- 18:35disciples
- 18:40that we are same people born in the same
- 18:44country brought up in the same country
- 18:46we have believed in them
- 18:49Community Living
- 18:51whether you follow this Faith or that
- 18:53faith it doesn't matter
- 18:54it's a Humanity which concerns you
- 18:58[Music]
- 19:03Gandhi spent the first months of 1947
- 19:06walking through the Villages of nokali
- 19:08holding prayer meetings trying to bring
- 19:11Hindus and Muslims together
- 19:16Ashoka Gupta went with him
- 19:21another
- 19:23and why he walked he sang he rested in a
- 19:27Muslim house then he rested in a Hindu
- 19:29house
- 19:31[Music]
- 19:38but the great pacifist and campaigner
- 19:41for Independence was hardly the unifying
- 19:43figure he wanted to be
- 19:48genuinely
- 19:51the prayer meetings the non non-hindus
- 19:54were absent
- 19:58Shankar gosh reported the story for his
- 20:00Calcutta newspaper
- 20:04the Muslims were not keen to come to him
- 20:07were not keen to listen to him
- 20:10and before gandhiji went on his morning
- 20:13trip from one Village to another
- 20:16they used to
- 20:19defy the path spread thorns
- 20:26an advanced party had to be sent because
- 20:29he was in nawakali he was taught wearing
- 20:32any shoes he was the wife who work on
- 20:35barefoot
- 20:37candido is opposed constitutional
- 20:40concessions to Muslims
- 20:42for many of them he represented Hindu
- 20:45Supremacy
- 20:46[Music]
- 20:48Mr Gandhi did not appeal to the Muslims
- 20:51you know he failed to win the hearts and
- 20:54minds of the Muslims of India
- 20:57the way he used to talk about politics
- 21:00and his language his his it was foreign
- 21:03it did not appeal to Muslims at all you
- 21:05know but he he used to be practically
- 21:09you know naked he used to have one arm
- 21:13on the shoulder of one girl and he
- 21:15should have another arm on the shoulder
- 21:17of another
- 21:18and the Hindus thought he was a saint
- 21:20you know
- 21:22Candy's dream of a United India seemed
- 21:25to be collapsing
- 21:28[Music]
- 21:30he was a sad man
- 21:34I think nobody was listening to him he
- 21:37was
- 21:39considered to be
- 21:41an incorrigible ideal idealist
- 21:45who has no
- 21:47connection with reality
- 21:51[Music]
- 21:57in February 1947 the British government
- 22:01made a dramatic declaration
- 22:03they would definitely leave India by
- 22:05June 1948 but there was still no
- 22:08agreement on how to give India to the
- 22:10Indians
- 22:12with chaos spreading they decided on a
- 22:14radical solution
- 22:15to appoint a new Viceroy
- 22:19[Music]
- 22:23the occasion the departure of Lord
- 22:25mountbatten of Burma who was leaving for
- 22:27India with his wife
- 22:28before the new Viceroy they lay the task
- 22:30of holding office for the brief but
- 22:32obviously difficult period of just over
- 22:34a year until the date when Indians
- 22:36undertake full control of India everyone
- 22:38in Britain I'm certain which is the
- 22:40Viceroy all possible success in India I
- 22:43was in school
- 22:44and they said you'll miss the last term
- 22:47of school
- 22:48um and we're taking you out in the
- 22:50middle of this term because
- 22:52that has been appointed by Thrive India
- 22:55and so we're going out for probably a
- 22:58couple of years
- 22:59and uh you know I thought we'd take you
- 23:02as well because you can be useful
- 23:06[Music]
- 23:13in March 1947 mountbatten arrived in
- 23:17India
- 23:17the former Supreme Allied Commander of
- 23:20Southeast Asia had a reputation for
- 23:22being a decisive leader a man who could
- 23:25knock heads together
- 23:28his brief was simple to get a deal and
- 23:31get written out before India imploded
- 23:35the swearing-in uh of course was a very
- 23:38great ceremony in the Davao Hall
- 23:41so trumpeters and all the uh staff in
- 23:45their full dress uniform my father and
- 23:47full rest uniform my mother in a long
- 23:50white dress and I think a sort of Laurel
- 23:53reads in her hair
- 23:56and
- 23:58they look like film stars
- 24:01[Music]
- 24:09the Viceroy his wife Edwina the vicerine
- 24:13and their daughter Pamela moved into
- 24:15viceroy's house in New Delhi with its
- 24:17staff of five thousand
- 24:21Vice rice has there were indoor
- 24:24gardeners now the indoor gardeners just
- 24:28arranged the flowers and the vases and
- 24:30changed the water
- 24:32there were 25 of them as indoor gardens
- 24:35there was one man who spent his entire
- 24:38time
- 24:39with a seal that bore the British crown
- 24:42stamping the butter pads
- 24:45and there was another unfortunate Man
- 24:47known as the chicken plucker who did
- 24:49nothing else
- 24:51so the scale was so amazing
- 24:56[Music]
- 24:57Narendra Singh sarila was to become
- 25:00mountbatten's aide to Camp his personal
- 25:02assistant
- 25:04[Music]
- 25:07among other things his job was to assist
- 25:09on tiger hunts
- 25:12blood Mount written was a very
- 25:14articulate man and
- 25:16he used to plan ahead
- 25:20what he's going to do
- 25:22and
- 25:24and he used to carry it through
- 25:26ruthlessly
- 25:30despite the formalities of Life at
- 25:33viceroy's house while baton seemed like
- 25:35a new breed of Viceroy
- 25:37foreign
- 25:41helped him
- 25:42because everybody knew that he was
- 25:44cousin of the king
- 25:45but still
- 25:47he was he acted without any heirs and I
- 25:51think that impressed Indians because
- 25:53otherwise there was kept you know the
- 25:55sort of upper lip and that sort of thing
- 25:58and I think that helped to impress
- 26:01people well the first thing
- 26:04that was different with my father and
- 26:07mother was that when they were
- 26:08entertaining I mean they were in India
- 26:10they invited Indians which had never
- 26:12happened before
- 26:13I mean yes of course Indian princes
- 26:17um well I understand but the ordinary
- 26:21um Indian
- 26:23ministers and lawyers and doctors or
- 26:26whoever had never been invited so then
- 26:29that was quite a new thing on the
- 26:33personal level Dicky was
- 26:35a very Charming very handsome
- 26:38very lovable person
- 26:41who met one
- 26:43very informally and you know when one
- 26:47was very young and rather nervous in
- 26:50front of important people he could put
- 26:52one at one's ease
- 26:54he was awfully sweet
- 27:01now baton's first task was to meet the
- 27:03Indian leaders
- 27:04Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Nero for
- 27:06Congress
- 27:08and Muhammad Ali Jinnah for the Muslim
- 27:10League
- 27:13foreign he hoped his more informal style
- 27:17would give him greater success than his
- 27:19stuffier predecessors
- 27:22they they sat away from the desks in our
- 27:25chairs and were offered Refreshments of
- 27:29some kind and he would you know he would
- 27:32say well now
- 27:33before you put me in the picture
- 27:35politically and then the state of India
- 27:38do tell me a bit about yourself
- 27:41it was a technique that worked with Nero
- 27:43the two would become lifelong friends
- 27:45but it totally failed with Gina
- 27:48he came out of the meeting afterwards
- 27:50and said to his aides my goodness he was
- 27:54cold cold as ice
- 27:56[Music]
- 28:04there were now constant negotiations
- 28:16as a divided India became a real
- 28:19possibility the political tensions of
- 28:22the center filtered down to the local
- 28:23level
- 28:24[Music]
- 28:30the Punjab was worst affected
- 28:38was one of the wealthiest in India
- 28:40Hindus Muslims and Sikhs all claimed it
- 28:43as their own
- 28:44[Music]
- 28:50[Music]
- 28:52the Punjab was home to most of India's
- 28:55six million Sikhs the location of the
- 28:58most holy site the Golden Temple
- 29:03the sixth great fear was that if India
- 29:06was divided the Punjab with its Muslim
- 29:09majority would end up in Pakistan
- 29:13for Sikhs it was Unthinkable that they
- 29:15would be ruled by the Muslims
- 29:16historically their enemies
- 29:24in many villages of the Punjab communal
- 29:26Harmony began to break down
- 29:33aridaman Singh Dylan was living in a
- 29:35mixed Sikh Muslim Village
- 29:38I had Muslim friends and we used to play
- 29:41together
- 29:42and there was nobody from our families
- 29:45put any obstacles between us
- 29:48but when these Strife began then I was
- 29:51predicted
- 29:52from going out with my Muslim friends
- 29:56[Applause]
- 29:58but we would sneak away and often will
- 30:00get caught and scalded
- 30:03my grandfather he noticed us going about
- 30:06playing around in the fields we try to
- 30:09hide but ultimately he found out and I
- 30:13was giving a good threshing
- 30:15that's called it
- 30:17is
- 30:24as a young boy he watched local
- 30:26politicians stir up divisions between
- 30:27the communities for their own ends
- 30:36[Applause]
- 30:43they have to
- 30:45FIP of these Sentiments of the people
- 30:48and the easiest way to whip up the
- 30:50sentiments of the people are to tell
- 30:53them that their religion is in danger
- 30:55that is their Community is in danger
- 30:58what else would they tell to who would
- 31:00wink people to get votes out of them to
- 31:03get sport out of them the people had to
- 31:06be Hoodwinked and politicians do that do
- 31:09this
- 31:14tension also increased in the punjab's
- 31:16capital Lahore
- 31:21student samanand always had a lot of
- 31:24Muslim friends
- 31:26they now refuse to talk to him
- 31:29a class fellow of mine raised the
- 31:32Congress flag on the school building the
- 31:34Muslims were very Furious why they also
- 31:38raised their their Muslim League flag on
- 31:40the on the school building so detention
- 31:43increased
- 31:45the distrust was already there under the
- 31:48surface
- 31:50it was there for centuries
- 31:54but now it came above the service
- 32:00John Moors in his band of gurkhas were
- 32:02now sent to Lahore to help the local
- 32:04police keep the peace
- 32:07we arrived in Lahore around about the
- 32:0923rd of April we already knew that there
- 32:12were Rumblings going on for intelligence
- 32:15that had been passed to us and we were
- 32:16briefed on that
- 32:18and our first job was to get to know the
- 32:22city and to how to get around it
- 32:27foreign
- 32:34we had orders that we were to stay armed
- 32:37and you'd have to go to a dance or have
- 32:39dinner out somewhere with a 8 45
- 32:41revolvers strapped on because there was
- 32:44already talk about people having
- 32:47reprisals
- 32:53[Applause]
- 32:58foreign
- 33:01[Music]
- 33:04there were few British Patrols
- 33:07began forming jatas armed bands
- 33:12many seek to served in the British army
- 33:14during the war and still had their
- 33:16weapons
- 33:21these ex-soldiers began to train their
- 33:23Sikh Brothers to prevent a Muslim
- 33:25takeover of the Punjab
- 33:31had recently been released from prison
- 33:33where he served time for assault he
- 33:36lived in a Sikh majority part of the
- 33:37Punjab
- 33:43I
- 33:48Chloe
- 33:55thank you
- 33:55[Applause]
- 33:56foreign
- 34:04foreign
- 34:14[Music]
- 34:20and told him that they have heard rumors
- 34:23that certain people are getting together
- 34:27in adjoining villages to attack our
- 34:30village and other villages to kill the
- 34:33Muslims aridaman Singh Dylan came from a
- 34:36long line of Sikh Warriors his ancestors
- 34:39had been imprisoned by the British
- 34:41his grandfather The Village head refused
- 34:44to join in the wave of communal violence
- 34:46a committee of SEC Hindu and Muslim
- 34:52people were created
- 34:54and they were given
- 34:56uh
- 34:57small arms like lances and excess
- 35:01we had a couple of guns and the basic
- 35:05reason for doing this was to guard their
- 35:09own village against the people coming to
- 35:12loot the Muslims of that Village and to
- 35:15guard their Muslim friends and every
- 35:17night they would hold the patrolling
- 35:20throughout the village to guard the
- 35:23village and the Muslims
- 35:31seeing the Sikh preparations for war
- 35:33Muslim villagers decided to launch a
- 35:36first strike
- 35:37in March 1947 seek Villages around raval
- 35:40Bindi came under attack
- 35:58um
- 36:07foreign
- 36:13[Music]
- 36:21would be taken away converted and raped
- 36:24[Music]
- 36:31Romance
- 36:37video
- 36:40foreign
- 36:46[Music]
- 36:56decided to act to save the order of his
- 36:59village
- 37:00his teenage son looked on
- 37:03yeah
- 37:13foreign
- 37:53foreign
- 38:37[Music]
- 38:45foreign
- 38:48such scenes were repeated throughout the
- 38:51Western Punjab in March and April 1947.
- 38:54[Music]
- 39:04with the threat of all-out conflict a
- 39:06deal became a matter of urgency
- 39:12the Congress leader Pandit Nero now had
- 39:15power within his grasp
- 39:17but to get the British out quickly he
- 39:19had to compromise
- 39:21he abandoned his dream of a United India
- 39:24and accepted partition
- 39:28a statement will be read to you tonight
- 39:30giving the final decision of his
- 39:32Majesty's government as the method by
- 39:35which power will be transferred from
- 39:37British to Indian head on the night of
- 39:39June 3rd 1947 mountbatten Jinnah and
- 39:43nehru broadcast the news that they had
- 39:45finally struck a deal they would divide
- 39:47India in two I lost 17 in every
- 39:52community
- 39:53particularly the Muslim India to
- 39:57maintain peace and importance
- 39:59I couldn't believe it
- 40:01I couldn't believe it
- 40:04I I I it was like a dream come true you
- 40:08know
- 40:09Mighty forces are at work in the world
- 40:12today and in India
- 40:15and I have no doubt that we are ushering
- 40:17in a period of greatness for India
- 40:20I remember I heaped a sigh of relief
- 40:23that there was partition because we did
- 40:27not want to live with the Muslims
- 40:29anymore
- 40:30but there can be no question of coercing
- 40:32any large areas in which one Community
- 40:34has a majority to live against their
- 40:37will under a government in which another
- 40:39Community as a majority
- 40:44the partition deal involved giving those
- 40:46provinces with a Muslim majority to
- 40:48Pakistan and those with a Hindu one to
- 40:50India
- 40:51but mountbatten and Nero insisted that
- 40:53the Punjab and Bengal would be treated
- 40:55differently despite their Muslim
- 40:57majorities
- 40:58Jenna was forced to accept that both
- 41:00these provinces would be cut in half and
- 41:02divided between India and Pakistan
- 41:07the next day at a press conference
- 41:09mountbatten dropped a bombshell Britain
- 41:12would not be leaving in June 1948 as had
- 41:15been planned but on August 15 1947 just
- 41:19three months away
- 41:20when asked why the date had been brought
- 41:22forward by nearly a year mountbatten
- 41:24replied why should we wait waiting would
- 41:27mean that I should be responsible
- 41:29ultimately for Law and Order it should
- 41:32have been possible for them to say that
- 41:34look there's no great hurry don't fix
- 41:36the timetable let the legit let it
- 41:39proceed in a more orderly manner
- 41:42but he was a
- 41:45a decisive man this is the job I have to
- 41:48do this is the date by which I'll do it
- 41:51[Music]
- 41:53this this was his personality
- 41:58that made the pace of the partition
- 42:01Furious impossible to moderate
- 42:04it was no question of it being
- 42:08too soon it was much too late because in
- 42:11fact when he arrived if he saw the
- 42:13situation was so much more volcanic than
- 42:17he'd
- 42:18been led to believe in England and he
- 42:21had that diary that he had over
- 42:23everybody's desk saying however many
- 42:25days to Independence because it seemed
- 42:28so unbelievable and the next morning he
- 42:30went into your office it was one day
- 42:33less and it certainly concentrated
- 42:35people's minds
- 42:40foreign
- 42:44s to go no decision had been made on one
- 42:47crucial matter
- 42:49where the border between Pakistan and
- 42:51India would lie
- 42:53a new boundary had to be urgently drawn
- 42:55up
- 42:57the man chosen for the task had never
- 42:59been east of Paris
- 43:01British Barrister Cecil Radcliffe
- 43:07it was a very remarkable man it was not
- 43:10just the
- 43:11quality of his mind uh though that was
- 43:14formidable
- 43:16perhaps the most vulnerable I ever
- 43:17encountered I think
- 43:19he had this unerving gift
- 43:22for going to the heart of anything he
- 43:24was discussing
- 43:25he he came very clearly to a rational
- 43:28conclusion he was a very rational man
- 43:34on July 8th Radcliffe arrived in India
- 43:42he moved into a bungalow in the
- 43:43viceroy's estate
- 43:46with partition only 36 days away he met
- 43:48mambatan
- 43:51the brilliant and serious Barrister did
- 43:53not quite hit it off with the flamboyant
- 43:55Viceroy
- 43:56I think he thought that he was
- 43:59a vain man
- 44:01um
- 44:03and not a man whose judgment was totally
- 44:06relied upon
- 44:08but he didn't he didn't dislike him and
- 44:11I think he respected the fact that
- 44:14mountbatten
- 44:15was the last place I saw it and doing
- 44:18the best he could with a very difficult
- 44:19remate could you get me the figures
- 44:22please for the gurdaspar district
- 44:26um I believe I'm writing saying that
- 44:28there is a narrow Muslim majority but
- 44:30not a substantial one uh yes 50.50 with
- 44:34his private secretary Christopher
- 44:36Beaumont Radcliffe began his work
- 44:39his toughest job would be in the Punjab
- 44:41and Bengal which were being divided in
- 44:43two
- 44:45Radcliffe was being asked to draw a line
- 44:47through the middle of both provinces
- 44:51in doing so he would look at which
- 44:53religion was in a majority in each
- 44:55individual District but he would also
- 44:58take into account other factors such as
- 45:00the collection of Railways canals and
- 45:02irrigation channels
- 45:07in the streets of its great Capital
- 45:09Lahore there was uncertainty over which
- 45:12side of the city the Border would fall
- 45:18[Music]
- 45:22Satish gudral was an art student in
- 45:25Lahore from a politically influential
- 45:27Hindu family
- 45:28[Music]
- 45:29foreign
- 45:36there were more chance that the whole
- 45:39will go to Indian side
- 45:43because seeing everything belong to in
- 45:46those
- 45:49educational
- 45:51Money Bank insurance
- 46:00[Music]
- 46:10foreign
- 46:23[Music]
- 46:28with tension increasing the British
- 46:30government decided this was the moment
- 46:32to bring most of the remaining troops
- 46:34home
- 46:36[Music]
- 46:45with just over a month to partition
- 46:47tension on the streets of Lahore began
- 46:50to turn to violence
- 46:54there was a date and everybody then knew
- 46:57that
- 47:00do whatever you can now because after
- 47:02this date you won't be able to do it
- 47:04whether it's looting Muslims or looting
- 47:06Hindus whatever it might be
- 47:09so therefore the the the the date
- 47:13itself became a driver
- 47:19with the borders still to be decided
- 47:21Muslims Sikhs and Hindus began to clear
- 47:24their neighborhoods of anyone not of
- 47:26their community
- 47:27[Music]
- 47:44[Music]
- 47:52foreign foreign
- 48:06despite violence erupting around the
- 48:08Punjab the British presence was now
- 48:11minimal
- 48:12John Morris and his small group of
- 48:14gurkhas did what they could in Lahore
- 48:17we tried to get in there quickly and say
- 48:19well what's happened with the police and
- 48:22they said well this shop's been set on
- 48:23fire and then the next thing which upped
- 48:26it would be someone would be killed or
- 48:28burnt
- 48:30um and so then you get a reprisal from
- 48:33the other side then picking on some
- 48:35deals and gradually this is how it
- 48:37escalated it was like a Bushfire
- 48:39and it was difficult to control
- 48:45as Lahore tore itself apart malbutton
- 48:49had other problems to solve
- 48:51partition was just a few weeks away but
- 48:54the future of large parts of India had
- 48:56yet to be decided that of the princely
- 48:58states
- 49:00[Music]
- 49:02foreign ruled by princes the
- 49:05semi-autonomous states were dotted
- 49:07around India they had been allowed to
- 49:09run their own Affairs in return for
- 49:10their loyalty to the British crowd
- 49:16the princes assumed the British would
- 49:19allow them to decide their own fate
- 49:20after they left but mountbatten had done
- 49:23a secret deal with neru he would have
- 49:26most of them over to India
- 49:29Narendra Singh sarila than a young
- 49:31prince attended the meeting where
- 49:33mountbatten announced their future
- 49:37foreign
- 49:3847
- 49:40my father said that the last chamber of
- 49:44Princess meeting is going to take place
- 49:46in Delhi
- 49:48in which mountbatten will address the
- 49:50princes it is an important meeting you
- 49:52go you deputize for me he was trying to
- 49:54build me up
- 49:58on July 25th the princes gathered to
- 50:01hear what mountbatten was offering them
- 50:08he who came and stood in front on the
- 50:11podium
- 50:12and I remember that he looked left and
- 50:17right
- 50:18while pictures were taken it was it was
- 50:21perfect
- 50:22Showmanship and then he started
- 50:25addressing the princes your highnesses
- 50:28ladies and gentlemen and he said that we
- 50:32have no alternative but to sign the
- 50:33instrument recession
- 50:35mountbatten told the princes they had
- 50:37little Choice join the Indian Union or
- 50:39be swept away in a wave of democratic
- 50:42change
- 50:43and I think this made a great impression
- 50:45and many of the princes who had these
- 50:47ideas that they would they would become
- 50:49independent and do what they like they
- 50:51just collapsed they realized that if
- 50:54they didn't sign
- 50:56most of the princes small ones most
- 51:00probably wiped out
- 51:03with the princes in the bag the
- 51:05partition settlement was nearly complete
- 51:08all that remained was the final border
- 51:11down to Cicero Radcliffe
- 51:15I think it was the loneliness of the
- 51:17decision which uh I remember him talking
- 51:20about it wasn't a single sedition it was
- 51:23a series of decisions about where the
- 51:24line should be drawn these decisions
- 51:26were going to be his and he had to take
- 51:29responsibility for them and I think he
- 51:31found that a lonely experience by
- 51:33comparison with some of the things he'd
- 51:35done
- 51:38so Cyril had no time to see what was
- 51:40happening in the lands he was dissecting
- 51:45his approach to drawing up the boundary
- 51:47separating majority hindu-sik areas from
- 51:50majority Muslim ones almost certainly
- 51:52encouraged the religious cleansing of
- 51:54entire districts
- 51:58there were areas where the margins were
- 52:00not very great
- 52:02therefore the majority in those areas
- 52:05wanted to make sure
- 52:07that
- 52:08the process didn't get fudged with small
- 52:10numbers
- 52:13so drive those the minority out whether
- 52:15it is Hindu or Muslim minority to make
- 52:18sure that this bit of territory doesn't
- 52:20slip out your hands
- 52:23[Music]
- 52:27Mayhem now ensued in The Villages of the
- 52:29Punjab
- 52:30a few individuals took a stand Dylan's
- 52:33grandfather was threatened for trying to
- 52:35protect his Muslim Neighbors
- 52:36[Music]
- 52:40some people had often sent messages to
- 52:42my grandfather
- 52:44that people who were going about looting
- 52:47and killing Muslims they wanted to
- 52:50eliminate our family because we were
- 52:53putting a obstacle in their way
- 52:56but my grandfather would not be deterred
- 52:59he would not be afraid he was that way
- 53:26[Music]
- 53:32no no no no no no
- 53:35nobody better
- 53:43now
- 53:45I'm fine
- 53:47but if it is
- 54:05foreign
- 54:28[Music]
- 54:31troops scoured the countryside trying to
- 54:34stop the violence
- 54:36but by then there were just too few to
- 54:38make a difference
- 54:42one had messages coming in all the time
- 54:45by hand written messages I can remember
- 54:48one it was rather sad pathetic note by
- 54:51some chap who could write a little bit
- 54:54of English and he had been in the Indian
- 54:56Navy and on a scrap of paper this came
- 54:59in one day saying I I'm a home on leave
- 55:02at this particular Village
- 55:04and my name is certain so my number is
- 55:07certain so please can you come and help
- 55:09us because we are going to be attacked
- 55:14but by the time are we located The
- 55:17Village
- 55:18we got there and the village had been
- 55:21attacked and I couldn't find this man a
- 55:22lot of people were killed so it was that
- 55:25sort of message it was sad you know
- 55:27people were desperate for help and knew
- 55:29where we were but when I say we were
- 55:31we're only 100 people I mean the whole
- 55:34area was something like what 40 40 50
- 55:38000 square miles
- 55:43one Village I went into where we knew
- 55:46there was something of foot I hadn't
- 55:48been told to go there I was coming back
- 55:49at the end of a patrol
- 55:51and I saw vultures circling and so that
- 55:54was usually a pretty good indicator and
- 55:57got into the village
- 55:59and sure enough it had been completely
- 56:02decimated
- 56:05[Music]
- 56:08the well was full of bodies women by one
- 56:11woman and being pregnant and she'd been
- 56:12carved out and completely and breasts
- 56:15had been cut off and
- 56:17an awful awful atrocities
- 56:25foreign
- 56:36[Music]
- 56:46[Music]
- 56:50murder was down every day occurrence
- 56:54with Partition just two weeks away
- 56:55rumors circulated that the city would go
- 56:58to Pakistan
- 57:01lahore's richer Hindus took no chances
- 57:04[Music]
- 57:11the Hindus started Living much before
- 57:15the partition Lahore they knew the Lord
- 57:18would go to Pakistan they started
- 57:20leaving the city but they pretended that
- 57:24they are not leaving
- 57:28they kept their drying rooms as as it
- 57:32were there all these sofas and all these
- 57:35all the furniture was there in the
- 57:37hearts there was a a hope lingered that
- 57:42Lahore would be on this side
- 57:45thank you
- 57:46[Music]
- 57:52foreign
- 58:03[Music]
- 58:07said if they could live under the
- 58:09British they could live under the
- 58:11Muslims
- 58:12[Music]
- 58:14I didn't want to leave
- 58:16my father also didn't want to leave he
- 58:19hoped and he said okay all these people
- 58:22who are leaving their Foods they'll come
- 58:24back tomorrow
- 58:30but that was not true when our neighbors
- 58:34started Living one by one he still hoped
- 58:39our closest neighbors who we had very
- 58:43close relationship the bhatyas when they
- 58:47left my father wept
- 58:49that day
- 58:54as thousands fled Muslim gangs Set Fire
- 58:57to the secret Hindu areas of the old
- 58:59city
- 59:00the old Lahore beautiful and historic
- 59:03was in flames
- 59:09night when I used to sleep on the
- 59:12Terrace I could see the Hindu shalmy
- 59:16area burning
- 59:18five miles away
- 59:23foreign
- 59:29was a thickly populated Hindu area
- 59:33it was burned down completely
- 59:36and I could see five miles away
- 59:40the Flames the light all that and we
- 59:44were so terrified that night
- 59:50all around my house
- 59:53people were running
- 59:55children others women
- 1:00:00he said mobs are coming
- 1:00:03and the area is on fire
- 1:00:08told me to run at once if you want to
- 1:00:10save your life
- 1:00:19[Music]
- 1:00:23the whole Horizon full of fire smoke and
- 1:00:27all red
- 1:00:28it was such a sad sad sad
- 1:00:32moment for my life seeing Lahore is such
- 1:00:35a beautiful city it was all burning
- 1:00:37I have done what I can in Drawing the
- 1:00:41Line
- 1:00:43to eliminate any avoidable cutting
- 1:00:48of Railway Communications
- 1:00:50and of river systems
- 1:00:54which are on August 9 through at
- 1:00:56Clifford finished drawing up the Border
- 1:00:58but my button decided to keep the new
- 1:01:00boundary a secret until after
- 1:01:02Independence so the British wouldn't be
- 1:01:04blamed for any ensuing violence of this
- 1:01:07Interruption the delay prolonged the
- 1:01:09uncertainty and some believe it
- 1:01:11increased the loss of life
- 1:01:13[Music]
- 1:01:15Radcliffe
- 1:01:19why
- 1:01:21capital decision
- 1:01:30feel much killing would have been saved
- 1:01:35if they had announced the faith of Lord
- 1:01:3815 days before
- 1:01:43on the eve of Independence Radcliffe
- 1:01:46wrote to his stepson in London
- 1:01:47[Music]
- 1:01:50nobody in India will love me for my
- 1:01:51award about the Punjab and Bengal and
- 1:01:54there will be roughly 80 million people
- 1:01:55with the grievance who will begin
- 1:01:57looking for me
- 1:01:58I do not want them to find me
- 1:02:01I've worked and traveled and sweated oh
- 1:02:03I have sweated the whole time
- 1:02:07[Music]
- 1:02:09Radcliffe left India four days later
- 1:02:13never to return
- 1:02:16he was deeply conscious that his rulings
- 1:02:19or his recommendations his would
- 1:02:22generate
- 1:02:24controversy conflict
- 1:02:26and the possibility of a lot a loss of a
- 1:02:29lot of human life
- 1:02:31um
- 1:02:32I do remember him saying that
- 1:02:36any solution
- 1:02:38any drawing of the line would have done
- 1:02:41that
- 1:02:45on August 14 1947 a new country was born
- 1:02:50on the subcontinent
- 1:02:52Jenna's dream of a Muslim Homeland
- 1:02:54became a reality in Pakistan
- 1:02:57[Music]
- 1:03:04through karachi's streets drives the
- 1:03:06katyazam Muhammad Ali dinner Pakistan's
- 1:03:08first governor general it's karachi's
- 1:03:10first day of independence and the crowds
- 1:03:12are out to greet him and Earl
- 1:03:13mountbatten
- 1:03:15button was in Karachi to declare
- 1:03:17independence for the newly created state
- 1:03:20bazali no one except he and Radcliffe
- 1:03:23knew where its borders were but this
- 1:03:25didn't stop the celebrations
- 1:03:31it never occurred to us that the Muslims
- 1:03:35of India will ever see the emergence of
- 1:03:39his Sovereign independent country but
- 1:03:43they could call their own you see
- 1:03:47a country they could live for a country
- 1:03:49they could die for decision it never
- 1:03:52occurred to us you know
- 1:03:57the next day it was the third of India
- 1:03:59to celebrate
- 1:04:03[Music]
- 1:04:07[Applause]
- 1:04:10hundreds of thousands thrown the streets
- 1:04:12as nehru mountbatten his wife Edwina and
- 1:04:15their daughter Pamela made their way to
- 1:04:17the constituent assembly
- 1:04:21[Music]
- 1:04:23unfortunately when my parents arrive
- 1:04:26they can't get in because the crowd is
- 1:04:29so thick but so thick that they can't
- 1:04:32open the doors so there's no way for
- 1:04:35them to get in
- 1:04:36so somebody has to crawl in some window
- 1:04:39and and go to the Prime Minister and say
- 1:04:42it's lame difficult otherwise right I
- 1:04:44can't get in because the crowd is so
- 1:04:47vast will you come and sort it out so
- 1:04:49now we have to sort of scuttle around
- 1:04:50back and start hitting people and
- 1:04:53shouting at people and clearing away
- 1:04:55when she was always brilliant out and
- 1:04:57loved doing
- 1:04:58and eventually my parents were allowed
- 1:05:01to make their state intrinsically less
- 1:05:05um dignified them but had been expected
- 1:05:13[Music]
- 1:05:22where you must remember that whatever
- 1:05:24the tragedy of partition there are the
- 1:05:26aspects to it and it was an exhilarating
- 1:05:29occasion and there were millions of
- 1:05:31people out on the streets celebrating
- 1:05:33for my uncle and for his colleagues
- 1:05:37it was the realization though not in
- 1:05:42whole but in part of their lifelong
- 1:05:45dream the cause to which they had given
- 1:05:48their entire lives
- 1:05:50and here it was
- 1:05:52Indian independence
- 1:05:54[Applause]
- 1:05:57but not everyone was celebrated
- 1:06:00Gandhi who for decades had struggled for
- 1:06:03a United Independent India lay fasting
- 1:06:06in Calcutta
- 1:06:07his disciple Ashoka Gupta was with him
- 1:06:11we're disappointed man he was a man in
- 1:06:14distress and he founded that whoever
- 1:06:17people went with him
- 1:06:19to start with
- 1:06:20now I deserting him the desertion by
- 1:06:23other leaders
- 1:06:25I think hurt him very much
- 1:06:27he wanted to die
- 1:06:30his attitude was let me die
- 1:06:39with the celebrations over mountbatten
- 1:06:42finally announced the new border
- 1:06:45foreign
- 1:06:49through the previously United provinces
- 1:06:51of Bengal and Punjab
- 1:06:55Lahore was given to Pakistan a disaster
- 1:06:58for the city's few remaining Hindus
- 1:07:02we were dejected and we were so sorry
- 1:07:05because she those Hindus by that time
- 1:07:08Hindus had realized that it would not be
- 1:07:11possible for them to stay in Pakistan
- 1:07:15[Music]
- 1:07:24millions of people were now on the move
- 1:07:27Muslims who found themselves on the
- 1:07:29Indian side of the border and Hindus and
- 1:07:31Sikhs who were on the Pakistani side
- 1:07:38they packed their belongings onto
- 1:07:40Bullock carts and left the villagers
- 1:07:42they had lived in for Generations
- 1:07:47foreign
- 1:07:55foreign
- 1:08:17[Music]
- 1:08:30the refugees formed human Caravans
- 1:08:33called carthalas
- 1:08:34[Music]
- 1:08:43the lucky ones and Military escorts to
- 1:08:45protect them from armed bands waiting on
- 1:08:48the roads
- 1:08:50the first
- 1:08:52major Refugee movement the biggest
- 1:08:55concentration was about a 50 miles long
- 1:08:59column of over uh
- 1:09:02200 000 people was moved and I was
- 1:09:07escorting it from Jalandhar onwards up
- 1:09:10to the Pakistan border
- 1:09:13Hussein was a young army officer he had
- 1:09:16been sent to the Punjab to deal with
- 1:09:17disturbances On the Border
- 1:09:21we had very few troops with us very few
- 1:09:23troops with us so here were these people
- 1:09:26there were no Dark Water elements they
- 1:09:29have no arrangement for the medical
- 1:09:30cover there was nothing except that we
- 1:09:33had collected these people in Open
- 1:09:35Spaces they were told to move
- 1:09:39and they were moving on foot
- 1:09:42some had Bullock cars they put their
- 1:09:44belongings on the Block cars and their
- 1:09:46old people and children others were on
- 1:09:48the foot and we used to do about in the
- 1:09:52initially we used to do about 15 to 20
- 1:09:54miles in a day but as they got tired
- 1:09:57that the days passed by they had been
- 1:10:00less and less
- 1:10:09foreign
- 1:10:37throughout August and September The
- 1:10:39Columns of refugees grew and Grew From
- 1:10:42hundreds of thousands to Millions
- 1:10:46will you imagine two million people on
- 1:10:49one road virtually
- 1:10:51and it's just a seething mass of people
- 1:10:53trying to get water trying to call him
- 1:10:56Wells were poisoned
- 1:10:58um trying to find food trying to cope
- 1:11:01trying to cook
- 1:11:02women having children and it's awful
- 1:11:05awful things
- 1:11:08[Music]
- 1:11:15and of course they often tried to stop
- 1:11:17us and to ask for help and sometimes if
- 1:11:21depending what we were doing we'd stop
- 1:11:24and say what's the matter what you want
- 1:11:25and then they'd say we know with no food
- 1:11:28I'm sorry I can't I can't do anything
- 1:11:30for you because that was no job
- 1:11:32we just didn't have any food to give
- 1:11:34them
- 1:11:35[Music]
- 1:11:48first they used to start throwing their
- 1:11:51baggage with they were carrying
- 1:11:52everybody whatever little they had to
- 1:11:54carry after three four days they used to
- 1:11:57gradually drop and then they were left
- 1:12:00with just the clothes shutter tattered
- 1:12:04and lastly the mothers leaving their
- 1:12:08small babies that was our biggest
- 1:12:10problem
- 1:12:11and there were these crawling babies
- 1:12:14and on the side of the road with these
- 1:12:17thousands and thousands of people just
- 1:12:19moving so the terrible sight terrible
- 1:12:21side
- 1:12:22[Music]
- 1:12:35tens of thousands of people boarded
- 1:12:38special Refugee trains that made their
- 1:12:40way between India and Pakistan
- 1:12:42[Music]
- 1:12:43they were easy prey for the armed gangs
- 1:12:45that roamed the countryside it was John
- 1:12:48Moore's job to escort a trainload of
- 1:12:50Muslim refugees to Pakistan
- 1:12:52[Music]
- 1:12:56it wasn't a train it was just a lot of
- 1:12:58coal wagons steel coal wagons and this
- 1:13:00of course is August which is pretty hot
- 1:13:05and
- 1:13:07we loaded up these these wretched
- 1:13:09refugees
- 1:13:17it was very distressing and the journey
- 1:13:19from ambala to to amritsa by train
- 1:13:22normally would you would do it in about
- 1:13:24I suppose four or five hours
- 1:13:28and um in this case it took four days
- 1:13:32[Music]
- 1:13:46there was no water very little water on
- 1:13:48the way we had our own supplies of water
- 1:13:50for the three platoons
- 1:13:52but we had a job to do and we couldn't
- 1:13:55help him help them
- 1:14:01foreign
- 1:14:15they reached the Sikh stronghold of
- 1:14:18amritsa
- 1:14:19just 14 miles from the border they were
- 1:14:22forced to stop to pick up water
- 1:14:24the station had been taken over by
- 1:14:26hundreds of armed Sikhs
- 1:14:29and Richard stay Nation
- 1:14:31was crawling with me it was packed it
- 1:14:34was like sardines right across not just
- 1:14:37the platforms but across the tracks They
- 1:14:40all had weapons of some sort or another
- 1:14:42some were old blunderbusses some were
- 1:14:45fairly modern rifles
- 1:14:47Spears swords they were shoulder to
- 1:14:51shoulder crowds and pushy and shouting
- 1:14:53and screaming and
- 1:14:55you realize that you were just going
- 1:14:58into a hell and if you didn't look tough
- 1:15:01it was you were you were trouble because
- 1:15:03they would then have gone for us before
- 1:15:06the refugees
- 1:15:08and um
- 1:15:10I said the thing to do
- 1:15:12um to get the grenades out let them see
- 1:15:16a lot of them are ex-soul disease people
- 1:15:18here the weapons they were carrying
- 1:15:20Let Them See You priming grades Prime
- 1:15:22the grenades and that they all know you
- 1:15:24mean business then
- 1:15:26and doing that they the crowd sort of
- 1:15:28melted back and away and left us clear
- 1:15:32and I suppose we must have been in the
- 1:15:34station for about four hours something
- 1:15:36like that
- 1:15:39and Justice Dawn was breaking we managed
- 1:15:42to to pull away the engine to do the
- 1:15:44last 14 miles
- 1:15:47[Music]
- 1:15:50there had been very little planning for
- 1:15:52the movement of refugees or their
- 1:15:54protection
- 1:15:54[Music]
- 1:15:56most British troops had already been
- 1:15:57sent home whilst Indian and Pakistani
- 1:16:00forces were in total disarray
- 1:16:02[Music]
- 1:16:06they were totally inadequate forces and
- 1:16:10the reason was very simple because the
- 1:16:12Indian army was being split at the same
- 1:16:15time don't forget that the troops were
- 1:16:18also concerned about their families
- 1:16:20because wherever they came from the
- 1:16:23trouble was going on in their homes also
- 1:16:25they were very much concerned and most
- 1:16:27of them were on leave or they were on
- 1:16:29the process of joining their new unit or
- 1:16:31they're already joined so the very much
- 1:16:34very few bodies on the ground really
- 1:16:37speaking available to us to deal with
- 1:16:39the job
- 1:16:40[Music]
- 1:16:44most trains had no military escorts with
- 1:16:47inevitable consequences
- 1:16:53John Moores was called to ambala station
- 1:16:55to meet a train that had been attacked
- 1:16:59this was a train load of I'd know five
- 1:17:01six hundred seven hundred people
- 1:17:04most of whom had been killed slaughtered
- 1:17:07mainly elderly people young children
- 1:17:12young women
- 1:17:15and they had been attacked
- 1:17:18and slaughtered
- 1:17:20shot
- 1:17:22I can remember seeing a young woman over
- 1:17:25there she was still alive her head open
- 1:17:27cut open and you could see our brains
- 1:17:30and knew there was nothing that we could
- 1:17:32do we hadn't got any surgical facilities
- 1:17:35or anything like that but it was it was
- 1:17:38a horrendous horrendous thing
- 1:17:40and I still think about it very much
- 1:17:45art student Satish goodrel helped
- 1:17:47organize the transportation of refugees
- 1:17:50in amritsa he saw the hatred partitioned
- 1:17:53abroad nearby
- 1:17:58had been readily
- 1:18:00and all these girls had been brought out
- 1:18:04certainly
- 1:18:06they are taken in procession to this
- 1:18:09this location
- 1:18:11where they were being systematically
- 1:18:13raped
- 1:18:16I have regarding my life story
- 1:18:20that man watching it
- 1:18:23I looked at the face
- 1:18:26of those are the
- 1:18:28who were attending it
- 1:18:30in a search of compassion
- 1:18:35I found none
- 1:18:43in the coming months around 15 million
- 1:18:46people made the journey from one side to
- 1:18:48the other
- 1:18:49foreign
- 1:18:53million were dead
- 1:18:57thousands more lay abandoned in
- 1:18:59makeshift refugee camps stuck on the
- 1:19:02wrong side of the Border
- 1:19:09the vicerine now led the relief effort
- 1:19:13my mother was forever visiting the the
- 1:19:15Punjab she visited
- 1:19:17in five months
- 1:19:19she did 70 major tours of the Punjab
- 1:19:25into the camps and trying to organize
- 1:19:28organize the camps organize the
- 1:19:30hospitals get guards on the hospitals
- 1:19:33get food
- 1:19:35and they soon learned that tell lady
- 1:19:39mount back on something or answer one of
- 1:19:42her questions and something will happen
- 1:19:47[Music]
- 1:19:50the new prime minister of India toured
- 1:19:53some of the camps with them finally he
- 1:19:56came face to face with the prices people
- 1:19:58had paid for partition
- 1:20:00Satish gudra was at a refugee camp in
- 1:20:04Lahore when he arrived
- 1:20:07you know
- 1:20:10are you really recall everything
- 1:20:12graphically
- 1:20:15refugees wanted to kill him
- 1:20:19he was shocked amen who grew up as the
- 1:20:24darling of the people
- 1:20:27was was going to be trained by the same
- 1:20:29people
- 1:20:29[Applause]
- 1:20:33at the beginning
- 1:20:36that evening I did not feel because I
- 1:20:41thought foreign
- 1:20:57I felt low reference toward him
- 1:21:00[Music]
- 1:21:06and foreign
- 1:21:09there are now a few Hindus left
- 1:21:12someone and his father were among the
- 1:21:14last
- 1:21:15in the weeks following partition they
- 1:21:18came under attack from Muslim gangs
- 1:21:19seeking a religiously pure Lahore
- 1:21:23and it was free for all in the city
- 1:21:25there was no one to check them so they
- 1:21:28had come for that purpose and somebody
- 1:21:30had given them our address and all that
- 1:21:33and they came to kill us and to
- 1:21:36unfortunately we had a very narrow
- 1:21:38escape and I was with the neighbor with
- 1:21:41a Muslim neighbor and diluted the
- 1:21:44ransacked the house
- 1:21:45took away all the all the clothes which
- 1:21:49they could use on Lower shoes and when
- 1:21:53our Muslim neighbor raised he raised a
- 1:21:55human cry
- 1:21:57they said we'll shoot you if you if you
- 1:22:00support the cafes
- 1:22:04to achiever for some of his father who
- 1:22:06throughout the violence had held out the
- 1:22:08hope that they could stay on in the city
- 1:22:09of their birth
- 1:22:12[Music]
- 1:22:15then we decided to go to Delhi straight
- 1:22:17away went to the airport and came to
- 1:22:19Delhi with our two clothes no or nothing
- 1:22:24we left in a plane my father bought two
- 1:22:27tickets for Delhi
- 1:22:30I saw the our houses when the plane went
- 1:22:34up
- 1:22:35fried over um Model Town I wept
- 1:22:43[Music]
- 1:22:47village where the Muslims had been
- 1:22:50protected by his grandfather the Indian
- 1:22:52army arrived one day and ordered the
- 1:22:53Muslims out
- 1:22:55foreign
- 1:22:58it was the sort of very heavy moment
- 1:23:01there were tearful
- 1:23:04departures and farewells
- 1:23:06the Muslims left most of their
- 1:23:09assets and properties with their
- 1:23:11neighbors
- 1:23:13thinking that they would be able to come
- 1:23:15again to pick those things up
- 1:23:17[Music]
- 1:23:24initially the people felt very remorse
- 1:23:28about their going
- 1:23:30but then in a couple of days
- 1:23:34sort of they they try to occupy their
- 1:23:37homes
- 1:23:39they they try to take away whatever they
- 1:23:41had left
- 1:23:51in only a few months India had been
- 1:23:54divided along religious lines
- 1:23:56the Indian part of the Punjab was
- 1:23:58cleared of nearly all its Muslims while
- 1:24:00Pakistan was emptied of most of its
- 1:24:02Sikhs in Hindus
- 1:24:11Lahore once one of the most mixed cities
- 1:24:14in all of India was now home only to
- 1:24:17Muslims
- 1:24:20gone was
- 1:24:22the Cosmopolitan Lahore
- 1:24:25God was
- 1:24:26liberal tolerant Progressive Lord you
- 1:24:29see but I think culturally
- 1:24:33it was a great City in those days it was
- 1:24:36a great City and always
- 1:24:41with the passage of time
- 1:24:43we became more conservative more
- 1:24:48backward
- 1:24:51intolerant
- 1:24:52more pseudo-islamic pseudo-islamic
- 1:24:58I think the
- 1:25:01the
- 1:25:02is of the Hindus who didn't treat the
- 1:25:06Muslims as their equals
- 1:25:10that was the root cause the Muslims and
- 1:25:13Hindus couldn't integrate despite living
- 1:25:16together for all these centuries
- 1:25:23with the partition over the job was done
- 1:25:25for the few British troops still left in
- 1:25:27India
- 1:25:29John Moore's returned to Britain at the
- 1:25:31end of 1947.
- 1:25:36I think the worst thing was that we
- 1:25:40couldn't stop the violence
- 1:25:43see
- 1:25:45unnecessary cruelty is something which
- 1:25:49we didn't really know much about
- 1:25:51[Music]
- 1:25:54button stayed on in India until the end
- 1:25:56of 1948 as its Governor General
- 1:26:00he returned to his career in the Navy
- 1:26:01becoming First Sea Lord
- 1:26:05he was killed by an IRA bomb in 1979.
- 1:26:09the whole problem was that mountbatten
- 1:26:13tried to do this job in Too Short a Time
- 1:26:17to expect a country to be partitioned a
- 1:26:20new country to be created and within two
- 1:26:23months move the portion of the
- 1:26:25government of India to Pakistan and to
- 1:26:29move the troops to Pakistan from
- 1:26:31Pakistan to India both a tremendous job
- 1:26:34it cannot be done it and that's exactly
- 1:26:36what happened everything went out of
- 1:26:38control
- 1:26:39[Music]
- 1:26:46Satish gujra the Arts student from
- 1:26:49Lahore became one of India's greatest
- 1:26:51painters
- 1:26:54foreign
- 1:27:07and begin to paint
- 1:27:09without any consciously afraid
- 1:27:13this woman suffering
- 1:27:15this is brutally a man to man
- 1:27:18became my theme
- 1:27:22[Music]
- 1:27:26the Border created in 1947. become the
- 1:27:30focus for three Wars and 60 years of
- 1:27:33animosity between the government of
- 1:27:34India and Pakistan
- 1:27:38but for the people of the two countries
- 1:27:40it was the tragedy of Separation that
- 1:27:43lingered on
- 1:27:44[Music]
- 1:27:51I miss my friends
- 1:27:54I couldn't understand why they had to go
- 1:27:58why were they pushed away
- 1:28:00that my only thing was that they were
- 1:28:02being pushed away
- 1:28:04I knew they were not going happily so I
- 1:28:07couldn't understand why
- 1:28:08[Music]
- 1:28:11and I still think why
- 1:28:16what did anybody get out of it
- 1:28:28[Music]
- 1:28:31and on BBC 4 at 11 in Midnight's
- 1:28:34grandchildren three British teenagers
- 1:28:36traveled to the Punjab to see how their
- 1:28:38families were affected by partition
- 1:28:40coming next here on BBC 2 News night
- 1:28:44foreign
- 1:28:45[Music]
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