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Partition - The Day India Burned BBC 2007 (Full Documentary) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00foreign
  2. 0:03[Music]
  3. 0:10[Music]
  4. 0:14August
  5. 0:151947. the British are quitting India
  6. 0:19nearly 200 years after they took power
  7. 0:23[Applause]
  8. 0:26one of the largest most ethnically
  9. 0:28diverse nations in the world has been
  10. 0:30divided
  11. 0:32one country will now become two
  12. 0:34India and Pakistan
  13. 0:39as a British Barrister draws a line on a
  14. 0:41map a once peaceful land implodes
  15. 0:44[Music]
  16. 0:47people are forced out of the villages
  17. 0:49they have lived in for Generations
  18. 0:5115 million scramble to be on the right
  19. 0:53side of the new border at least one
  20. 0:56million die in the process
  21. 0:58and in this huge mess of humanity just
  22. 1:02moving along barefooted
  23. 1:05no food thirsty for the terrible site
  24. 1:08terrible sight
  25. 1:11communities that have lived together for
  26. 1:13centuries turn on each other in one of
  27. 1:15the worst communal massacres of the 20th
  28. 1:17century
  29. 1:18so senseless so utterly senseless
  30. 1:22and yet there's nothing you can do about
  31. 1:24it
  32. 1:25Britain the once great colonial power
  33. 1:28looks on as India Burns
  34. 1:33Hindus and Muslims were in the grip of
  35. 1:36Madness you know lunacy lunacy
  36. 1:44foreign
  37. 1:49[Music]
  38. 1:57[Applause]
  39. 2:03[Music]
  40. 2:061946 British India was largely at peace
  41. 2:12on the surface there was communal
  42. 2:14Harmony between Hindus Muslims and Sikhs
  43. 2:18[Music]
  44. 2:20foreign
  45. 2:21[Music]
  46. 2:27part of your village
  47. 2:29I remember Hindus and six living side by
  48. 2:33side you know living with us you know
  49. 2:36not far from where I lived you know and
  50. 2:38whenever there was any wedding in the
  51. 2:41family I remember the Hindus and the six
  52. 2:44bringing sweet meats you know to my
  53. 2:46father you know you see an offering and
  54. 2:48we live very happily very happily
  55. 2:54in British India the 255 million Hindus
  56. 2:58were in a majority
  57. 3:00India's 92 million Muslims were
  58. 3:02concentrated in the Northwest and
  59. 3:04Northeast of the country
  60. 3:06The Six Million Sikhs lived mostly in
  61. 3:08the Punjab one of the richest and most
  62. 3:10diverse provinces in India
  63. 3:13Lahore was its ancient capital
  64. 3:20[Music]
  65. 3:23Lahore was one of the most Cosmopolitan
  66. 3:25cities in the country
  67. 3:27a center for education and fashion
  68. 3:39rodit Khan a Muslim had left his village
  69. 3:42to study law and history at lahore's
  70. 3:44Foreman Christian College
  71. 3:46Lahore took my breath away you know
  72. 3:49as a
  73. 3:51it was a different city you know it and
  74. 3:53it was a different world
  75. 4:01[Applause]
  76. 4:03it was very
  77. 4:05liberal
  78. 4:07very tolerant
  79. 4:10very Progressive
  80. 4:12Institution
  81. 4:17[Music]
  82. 4:22at the same time someone and a Hindu was
  83. 4:25in his final year of school in one of
  84. 4:27lahore's fashionable suburbs
  85. 4:29the fashions in Lahore became popular
  86. 4:33all over Punjab not only in Punjab but
  87. 4:36in Northern India
  88. 4:40[Music]
  89. 4:46[Applause]
  90. 4:49so there was a famous saying in Punjabi
  91. 4:53that the person who has not seen Lahore
  92. 4:56has not been born yet yet to people
  93. 5:04in a few months time the Peace of this
  94. 5:06ancient city would be shattered
  95. 5:09[Music]
  96. 5:16for nearly 200 years Britain ruled over
  97. 5:19India's 380 million people
  98. 5:23India was the centerpiece of Britain's
  99. 5:25Empire a source of money and power
  100. 5:28[Applause]
  101. 5:31for the British who were stationed there
  102. 5:34life had changed little in decades
  103. 5:37[Music]
  104. 5:40[Applause]
  105. 5:45John Moors an officer to a Gurkha
  106. 5:48regiment had been in India for a year
  107. 5:54we had a hunt
  108. 5:56and they'd imported these harms possibly
  109. 5:59in the twenties or somewhere like that
  110. 6:01and they used to hunt uh Jackal the
  111. 6:03tribes and would come in with a live
  112. 6:05Jackal and um
  113. 6:07release them eventually and then the
  114. 6:10hunt would take it out and try try
  115. 6:12chasing them but then you had to have a
  116. 6:14whole Brigade out defending the hunters
  117. 6:18they would be deployed all around over
  118. 6:2070 miles
  119. 6:32for decades Indians had fought to rid
  120. 6:35themselves of British rule
  121. 6:37the independence movement had been kept
  122. 6:39in check by ruthless military force
  123. 6:42but by 1946
  124. 6:44everything had changed
  125. 6:46World War II had left Britain bankrupt
  126. 6:50[Applause]
  127. 6:52Mr Moore's and the other British troops
  128. 6:55knew that they would be the last
  129. 6:57we knew that having come through a very
  130. 7:00expensive World War
  131. 7:03the cost of maintaining
  132. 7:06an Army in India following the the Far
  133. 7:10East War we realized that you know the
  134. 7:12equitness couldn't be paid for the
  135. 7:14taxpayer England's in a bad State
  136. 7:15particularly
  137. 7:174647 financially
  138. 7:21[Music]
  139. 7:24but India's independence leaders were
  140. 7:27divided over what should happen when
  141. 7:28Britain left
  142. 7:29the Indian National Congress under its
  143. 7:32leaders Pandit Nero and Mahatma Gandhi
  144. 7:34demanded a single state where all
  145. 7:36religions would live side by side
  146. 7:39but many Muslims feared living under a
  147. 7:41Hindu majority
  148. 7:47even in the middle class homes of Lahore
  149. 7:49ancient prejudices ran deep
  150. 7:53at one level they were they had very
  151. 7:57cordial relations our Muslim neighbors
  152. 8:00were very good they helped us we helped
  153. 8:03them but she Hindus headache curious
  154. 8:09inhibitions
  155. 8:15my mother's attitude she didn't allow
  156. 8:19any Muslim to enter her kitchen any
  157. 8:22cooked things from a Muslim home was not
  158. 8:25allowed to enter the kitchen
  159. 8:28when she was eating she would not allow
  160. 8:30her Muslim neighbors the lady to touch
  161. 8:34her
  162. 8:35so such inhibitions and Customs they
  163. 8:39they kept us apart
  164. 8:45in lahore's Old City Muslims were
  165. 8:48forbidden from drinking from the same
  166. 8:49Taps as Hindus
  167. 8:51[Music]
  168. 8:55a Muslim was a champion wrestler from
  169. 8:58The Old City
  170. 9:07foreign
  171. 9:39and they always wanted that's why the
  172. 9:42slogan of a Muslim Homeland became very
  173. 9:45popular among the Muslims
  174. 9:48[Music]
  175. 9:53Muslim fears that Hindus would dominate
  176. 9:56an independent India drove the demand
  177. 9:58for a separate Muslim Homeland
  178. 10:00[Music]
  179. 10:08it was championed principally by one man
  180. 10:10a 70 year old British educated Barrister
  181. 10:13Muhammad Ali Jinnah
  182. 10:15his Muslim League demanded the division
  183. 10:17of India into two one country for the
  184. 10:20Hindus and Sikhs and another for the
  185. 10:22Muslims
  186. 10:25once the British leave
  187. 10:27and there will be a democratic form of
  188. 10:29government you see you know but in a
  189. 10:31democratic form of government the Hindus
  190. 10:33will always be in the majority and the
  191. 10:35Muslim will always be in a minority we
  192. 10:37have no chance our minority will never
  193. 10:39be transformed into a majority you know
  194. 10:41and the Hindu majority will always
  195. 10:43remain a permanent majority therefore we
  196. 10:45have no chance
  197. 10:47Bandit nehru the leader of Congress
  198. 10:49toured the country arguing the case for
  199. 10:52a United India
  200. 10:54[Music]
  201. 10:57whole idea that that India should be
  202. 11:00divided uh was based on a fantastic
  203. 11:05notion that religion constitutes
  204. 11:08nationality
  205. 11:13Segal lived with her uncle pantidner
  206. 11:20while I was growing up the entire
  207. 11:22national movement which had cut across
  208. 11:24religion region
  209. 11:27caste class
  210. 11:29sex
  211. 11:30you know it had been a truly unifying
  212. 11:32experience so for a person like me it
  213. 11:34was it was an absurd idea that India
  214. 11:37should be divided made no sense of any
  215. 11:39kind
  216. 11:44clouds gather over similar for the
  217. 11:47opening of Lord weibel's conference with
  218. 11:48the Indian leaders in March 1946 a
  219. 11:51British government delegation the
  220. 11:53cabinet Mission arrived to negotiate
  221. 11:55between Congress and the league
  222. 11:58this was supposed to be the Breakthrough
  223. 11:59conference where a deal would be struck
  224. 12:01leading to an independent India
  225. 12:04Pandit Nero who calls for an Indian
  226. 12:06Republic is Accused by the league of
  227. 12:08working for Domination over the Muslim
  228. 12:10minority Jinnah did compromise at his
  229. 12:12demand for a separate Muslim State he
  230. 12:15accepted a United India if it had weak
  231. 12:17central powers but Nero a socialist and
  232. 12:21believer in a strong Central State
  233. 12:22refused any such concessions to the
  234. 12:25Muslim League Mr Jinnah the Muslim
  235. 12:27leader holds fast to Pakistan and it's
  236. 12:29reported that his maximum concessions
  237. 12:31were regarded by Congress as inadequate
  238. 12:33at any rate the faithful conference at
  239. 12:35Simla following the preliminary work in
  240. 12:37Delhi has ended in failure
  241. 12:40[Music]
  242. 12:46[Music]
  243. 12:48Calcutta a stronghold of the Muslim
  244. 12:51League August the 16th 1946.
  245. 12:55[Music]
  246. 13:07with the collapse of negotiations Jinnah
  247. 13:11called for direct action
  248. 13:14thousands of Muslims gathered in the
  249. 13:16center of the city to demand a separate
  250. 13:18Homeland Pakistan
  251. 13:20[Music]
  252. 13:28[Applause]
  253. 13:34as the crowds dispersed the more radical
  254. 13:37elements headed for the Hindu parts of
  255. 13:39the city
  256. 13:43thank you
  257. 13:55I was thinking of going out for a stroll
  258. 13:59and then all of a sudden I found some
  259. 14:03Muslim hoodlums
  260. 14:05they came out shouted
  261. 14:12Allah is the Great Master
  262. 14:14[Applause]
  263. 14:18[Music]
  264. 14:23local gangsters hijack the demonstration
  265. 14:27they whipped up the mob and it turned
  266. 14:29violent
  267. 14:31then I found that dead neighbor
  268. 14:34who had come out
  269. 14:39come out and they bleeding
  270. 14:41so
  271. 14:42I thought that going out would be
  272. 14:45absolutely full honey
  273. 14:47then these boys they started hitting the
  274. 14:51doors
  275. 14:52and they said that we will not spare any
  276. 14:55Hindu
  277. 15:04as the city erupted in communal violence
  278. 15:06Muslim Slaughter of Hindus turned a
  279. 15:09Hindu Slaughter of Muslims
  280. 15:12Shankar gosh was covering the riots for
  281. 15:15a Calcutta newspaper a Jewelery shop was
  282. 15:20surrounded by a crowd armed with iron
  283. 15:24rods
  284. 15:30an elderly employee
  285. 15:32he was already half dead in fear
  286. 15:37he came with his folded hands like this
  287. 15:42but these Furious mob they had no time
  288. 15:48to hear what
  289. 15:51he wanted to say
  290. 15:53I think a boy of 14 or 15 just pulled
  291. 15:57his leg as he came out
  292. 15:59and the man fell down
  293. 16:02and someone
  294. 16:06hit him on the head with another Rod I
  295. 16:08think that one blow had finished him
  296. 16:13[Music]
  297. 16:17around 5 000 people were killed in three
  298. 16:20days of rioting
  299. 16:23[Music]
  300. 16:26but the British with one eye on leaving
  301. 16:29India and fearful of being overrun
  302. 16:31ordered the troops to stay in their
  303. 16:33Barracks until it was too late
  304. 16:38[Music]
  305. 16:40we had absolute faith in British
  306. 16:43Authority we had absolute faith in the
  307. 16:46peace that British
  308. 16:49had given us
  309. 16:51for three days there was no sign of
  310. 16:54authority on the streets and it was
  311. 16:57anybody could murder anybody
  312. 17:01[Music]
  313. 17:12the Calcutta killings shattered the hope
  314. 17:15of the British that they could get out
  315. 17:17of India quietly and peacefully
  316. 17:20with religious hatred and suspicion
  317. 17:22growing the dream of United India seemed
  318. 17:25to be falling apart
  319. 17:30Crown Chopra was a young reporter for
  320. 17:33all India radio at the time of the riots
  321. 17:36until then there was still the
  322. 17:38possibility that there could be an
  323. 17:41undivided India
  324. 17:43that impression evaporated
  325. 17:46In the Heat of what was doing what came
  326. 17:49to be known as the great Calcutta
  327. 17:51killings
  328. 17:53once that impact spread through the rest
  329. 17:57of the country the hope that India could
  330. 18:00remain undivided began to vanish
  331. 18:07after Calcutta the violence spread in
  332. 18:10Bihar Hindus largely massacred Muslims
  333. 18:13in locally in Bengal it was Hindus who
  334. 18:16were mostly under attack
  335. 18:18with British power waning India was in
  336. 18:20danger of falling apart in the chaos of
  337. 18:22communal violence
  338. 18:24one man thought he could bring the
  339. 18:26country together and maintain the dream
  340. 18:27of a United India Mahatma Gandhi
  341. 18:32Ashoka Gupta was one of Gandhi's
  342. 18:35disciples
  343. 18:40that we are same people born in the same
  344. 18:44country brought up in the same country
  345. 18:46we have believed in them
  346. 18:49Community Living
  347. 18:51whether you follow this Faith or that
  348. 18:53faith it doesn't matter
  349. 18:54it's a Humanity which concerns you
  350. 18:58[Music]
  351. 19:03Gandhi spent the first months of 1947
  352. 19:06walking through the Villages of nokali
  353. 19:08holding prayer meetings trying to bring
  354. 19:11Hindus and Muslims together
  355. 19:16Ashoka Gupta went with him
  356. 19:21another
  357. 19:23and why he walked he sang he rested in a
  358. 19:27Muslim house then he rested in a Hindu
  359. 19:29house
  360. 19:31[Music]
  361. 19:38but the great pacifist and campaigner
  362. 19:41for Independence was hardly the unifying
  363. 19:43figure he wanted to be
  364. 19:48genuinely
  365. 19:51the prayer meetings the non non-hindus
  366. 19:54were absent
  367. 19:58Shankar gosh reported the story for his
  368. 20:00Calcutta newspaper
  369. 20:04the Muslims were not keen to come to him
  370. 20:07were not keen to listen to him
  371. 20:10and before gandhiji went on his morning
  372. 20:13trip from one Village to another
  373. 20:16they used to
  374. 20:19defy the path spread thorns
  375. 20:26an advanced party had to be sent because
  376. 20:29he was in nawakali he was taught wearing
  377. 20:32any shoes he was the wife who work on
  378. 20:35barefoot
  379. 20:37candido is opposed constitutional
  380. 20:40concessions to Muslims
  381. 20:42for many of them he represented Hindu
  382. 20:45Supremacy
  383. 20:46[Music]
  384. 20:48Mr Gandhi did not appeal to the Muslims
  385. 20:51you know he failed to win the hearts and
  386. 20:54minds of the Muslims of India
  387. 20:57the way he used to talk about politics
  388. 21:00and his language his his it was foreign
  389. 21:03it did not appeal to Muslims at all you
  390. 21:05know but he he used to be practically
  391. 21:09you know naked he used to have one arm
  392. 21:13on the shoulder of one girl and he
  393. 21:15should have another arm on the shoulder
  394. 21:17of another
  395. 21:18and the Hindus thought he was a saint
  396. 21:20you know
  397. 21:22Candy's dream of a United India seemed
  398. 21:25to be collapsing
  399. 21:28[Music]
  400. 21:30he was a sad man
  401. 21:34I think nobody was listening to him he
  402. 21:37was
  403. 21:39considered to be
  404. 21:41an incorrigible ideal idealist
  405. 21:45who has no
  406. 21:47connection with reality
  407. 21:51[Music]
  408. 21:57in February 1947 the British government
  409. 22:01made a dramatic declaration
  410. 22:03they would definitely leave India by
  411. 22:05June 1948 but there was still no
  412. 22:08agreement on how to give India to the
  413. 22:10Indians
  414. 22:12with chaos spreading they decided on a
  415. 22:14radical solution
  416. 22:15to appoint a new Viceroy
  417. 22:19[Music]
  418. 22:23the occasion the departure of Lord
  419. 22:25mountbatten of Burma who was leaving for
  420. 22:27India with his wife
  421. 22:28before the new Viceroy they lay the task
  422. 22:30of holding office for the brief but
  423. 22:32obviously difficult period of just over
  424. 22:34a year until the date when Indians
  425. 22:36undertake full control of India everyone
  426. 22:38in Britain I'm certain which is the
  427. 22:40Viceroy all possible success in India I
  428. 22:43was in school
  429. 22:44and they said you'll miss the last term
  430. 22:47of school
  431. 22:48um and we're taking you out in the
  432. 22:50middle of this term because
  433. 22:52that has been appointed by Thrive India
  434. 22:55and so we're going out for probably a
  435. 22:58couple of years
  436. 22:59and uh you know I thought we'd take you
  437. 23:02as well because you can be useful
  438. 23:06[Music]
  439. 23:13in March 1947 mountbatten arrived in
  440. 23:17India
  441. 23:17the former Supreme Allied Commander of
  442. 23:20Southeast Asia had a reputation for
  443. 23:22being a decisive leader a man who could
  444. 23:25knock heads together
  445. 23:28his brief was simple to get a deal and
  446. 23:31get written out before India imploded
  447. 23:35the swearing-in uh of course was a very
  448. 23:38great ceremony in the Davao Hall
  449. 23:41so trumpeters and all the uh staff in
  450. 23:45their full dress uniform my father and
  451. 23:47full rest uniform my mother in a long
  452. 23:50white dress and I think a sort of Laurel
  453. 23:53reads in her hair
  454. 23:56and
  455. 23:58they look like film stars
  456. 24:01[Music]
  457. 24:09the Viceroy his wife Edwina the vicerine
  458. 24:13and their daughter Pamela moved into
  459. 24:15viceroy's house in New Delhi with its
  460. 24:17staff of five thousand
  461. 24:21Vice rice has there were indoor
  462. 24:24gardeners now the indoor gardeners just
  463. 24:28arranged the flowers and the vases and
  464. 24:30changed the water
  465. 24:32there were 25 of them as indoor gardens
  466. 24:35there was one man who spent his entire
  467. 24:38time
  468. 24:39with a seal that bore the British crown
  469. 24:42stamping the butter pads
  470. 24:45and there was another unfortunate Man
  471. 24:47known as the chicken plucker who did
  472. 24:49nothing else
  473. 24:51so the scale was so amazing
  474. 24:56[Music]
  475. 24:57Narendra Singh sarila was to become
  476. 25:00mountbatten's aide to Camp his personal
  477. 25:02assistant
  478. 25:04[Music]
  479. 25:07among other things his job was to assist
  480. 25:09on tiger hunts
  481. 25:12blood Mount written was a very
  482. 25:14articulate man and
  483. 25:16he used to plan ahead
  484. 25:20what he's going to do
  485. 25:22and
  486. 25:24and he used to carry it through
  487. 25:26ruthlessly
  488. 25:30despite the formalities of Life at
  489. 25:33viceroy's house while baton seemed like
  490. 25:35a new breed of Viceroy
  491. 25:37foreign
  492. 25:41helped him
  493. 25:42because everybody knew that he was
  494. 25:44cousin of the king
  495. 25:45but still
  496. 25:47he was he acted without any heirs and I
  497. 25:51think that impressed Indians because
  498. 25:53otherwise there was kept you know the
  499. 25:55sort of upper lip and that sort of thing
  500. 25:58and I think that helped to impress
  501. 26:01people well the first thing
  502. 26:04that was different with my father and
  503. 26:07mother was that when they were
  504. 26:08entertaining I mean they were in India
  505. 26:10they invited Indians which had never
  506. 26:12happened before
  507. 26:13I mean yes of course Indian princes
  508. 26:17um well I understand but the ordinary
  509. 26:21um Indian
  510. 26:23ministers and lawyers and doctors or
  511. 26:26whoever had never been invited so then
  512. 26:29that was quite a new thing on the
  513. 26:33personal level Dicky was
  514. 26:35a very Charming very handsome
  515. 26:38very lovable person
  516. 26:41who met one
  517. 26:43very informally and you know when one
  518. 26:47was very young and rather nervous in
  519. 26:50front of important people he could put
  520. 26:52one at one's ease
  521. 26:54he was awfully sweet
  522. 27:01now baton's first task was to meet the
  523. 27:03Indian leaders
  524. 27:04Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Nero for
  525. 27:06Congress
  526. 27:08and Muhammad Ali Jinnah for the Muslim
  527. 27:10League
  528. 27:13foreign he hoped his more informal style
  529. 27:17would give him greater success than his
  530. 27:19stuffier predecessors
  531. 27:22they they sat away from the desks in our
  532. 27:25chairs and were offered Refreshments of
  533. 27:29some kind and he would you know he would
  534. 27:32say well now
  535. 27:33before you put me in the picture
  536. 27:35politically and then the state of India
  537. 27:38do tell me a bit about yourself
  538. 27:41it was a technique that worked with Nero
  539. 27:43the two would become lifelong friends
  540. 27:45but it totally failed with Gina
  541. 27:48he came out of the meeting afterwards
  542. 27:50and said to his aides my goodness he was
  543. 27:54cold cold as ice
  544. 27:56[Music]
  545. 28:04there were now constant negotiations
  546. 28:16as a divided India became a real
  547. 28:19possibility the political tensions of
  548. 28:22the center filtered down to the local
  549. 28:23level
  550. 28:24[Music]
  551. 28:30the Punjab was worst affected
  552. 28:38was one of the wealthiest in India
  553. 28:40Hindus Muslims and Sikhs all claimed it
  554. 28:43as their own
  555. 28:44[Music]
  556. 28:50[Music]
  557. 28:52the Punjab was home to most of India's
  558. 28:55six million Sikhs the location of the
  559. 28:58most holy site the Golden Temple
  560. 29:03the sixth great fear was that if India
  561. 29:06was divided the Punjab with its Muslim
  562. 29:09majority would end up in Pakistan
  563. 29:13for Sikhs it was Unthinkable that they
  564. 29:15would be ruled by the Muslims
  565. 29:16historically their enemies
  566. 29:24in many villages of the Punjab communal
  567. 29:26Harmony began to break down
  568. 29:33aridaman Singh Dylan was living in a
  569. 29:35mixed Sikh Muslim Village
  570. 29:38I had Muslim friends and we used to play
  571. 29:41together
  572. 29:42and there was nobody from our families
  573. 29:45put any obstacles between us
  574. 29:48but when these Strife began then I was
  575. 29:51predicted
  576. 29:52from going out with my Muslim friends
  577. 29:56[Applause]
  578. 29:58but we would sneak away and often will
  579. 30:00get caught and scalded
  580. 30:03my grandfather he noticed us going about
  581. 30:06playing around in the fields we try to
  582. 30:09hide but ultimately he found out and I
  583. 30:13was giving a good threshing
  584. 30:15that's called it
  585. 30:17is
  586. 30:24as a young boy he watched local
  587. 30:26politicians stir up divisions between
  588. 30:27the communities for their own ends
  589. 30:36[Applause]
  590. 30:43they have to
  591. 30:45FIP of these Sentiments of the people
  592. 30:48and the easiest way to whip up the
  593. 30:50sentiments of the people are to tell
  594. 30:53them that their religion is in danger
  595. 30:55that is their Community is in danger
  596. 30:58what else would they tell to who would
  597. 31:00wink people to get votes out of them to
  598. 31:03get sport out of them the people had to
  599. 31:06be Hoodwinked and politicians do that do
  600. 31:09this
  601. 31:14tension also increased in the punjab's
  602. 31:16capital Lahore
  603. 31:21student samanand always had a lot of
  604. 31:24Muslim friends
  605. 31:26they now refuse to talk to him
  606. 31:29a class fellow of mine raised the
  607. 31:32Congress flag on the school building the
  608. 31:34Muslims were very Furious why they also
  609. 31:38raised their their Muslim League flag on
  610. 31:40the on the school building so detention
  611. 31:43increased
  612. 31:45the distrust was already there under the
  613. 31:48surface
  614. 31:50it was there for centuries
  615. 31:54but now it came above the service
  616. 32:00John Moors in his band of gurkhas were
  617. 32:02now sent to Lahore to help the local
  618. 32:04police keep the peace
  619. 32:07we arrived in Lahore around about the
  620. 32:0923rd of April we already knew that there
  621. 32:12were Rumblings going on for intelligence
  622. 32:15that had been passed to us and we were
  623. 32:16briefed on that
  624. 32:18and our first job was to get to know the
  625. 32:22city and to how to get around it
  626. 32:27foreign
  627. 32:34we had orders that we were to stay armed
  628. 32:37and you'd have to go to a dance or have
  629. 32:39dinner out somewhere with a 8 45
  630. 32:41revolvers strapped on because there was
  631. 32:44already talk about people having
  632. 32:47reprisals
  633. 32:53[Applause]
  634. 32:58foreign
  635. 33:01[Music]
  636. 33:04there were few British Patrols
  637. 33:07began forming jatas armed bands
  638. 33:12many seek to served in the British army
  639. 33:14during the war and still had their
  640. 33:16weapons
  641. 33:21these ex-soldiers began to train their
  642. 33:23Sikh Brothers to prevent a Muslim
  643. 33:25takeover of the Punjab
  644. 33:31had recently been released from prison
  645. 33:33where he served time for assault he
  646. 33:36lived in a Sikh majority part of the
  647. 33:37Punjab
  648. 33:43I
  649. 33:48Chloe
  650. 33:55thank you
  651. 33:55[Applause]
  652. 33:56foreign
  653. 34:04foreign
  654. 34:14[Music]
  655. 34:20and told him that they have heard rumors
  656. 34:23that certain people are getting together
  657. 34:27in adjoining villages to attack our
  658. 34:30village and other villages to kill the
  659. 34:33Muslims aridaman Singh Dylan came from a
  660. 34:36long line of Sikh Warriors his ancestors
  661. 34:39had been imprisoned by the British
  662. 34:41his grandfather The Village head refused
  663. 34:44to join in the wave of communal violence
  664. 34:46a committee of SEC Hindu and Muslim
  665. 34:52people were created
  666. 34:54and they were given
  667. 34:56uh
  668. 34:57small arms like lances and excess
  669. 35:01we had a couple of guns and the basic
  670. 35:05reason for doing this was to guard their
  671. 35:09own village against the people coming to
  672. 35:12loot the Muslims of that Village and to
  673. 35:15guard their Muslim friends and every
  674. 35:17night they would hold the patrolling
  675. 35:20throughout the village to guard the
  676. 35:23village and the Muslims
  677. 35:31seeing the Sikh preparations for war
  678. 35:33Muslim villagers decided to launch a
  679. 35:36first strike
  680. 35:37in March 1947 seek Villages around raval
  681. 35:40Bindi came under attack
  682. 35:58um
  683. 36:07foreign
  684. 36:13[Music]
  685. 36:21would be taken away converted and raped
  686. 36:24[Music]
  687. 36:31Romance
  688. 36:37video
  689. 36:40foreign
  690. 36:46[Music]
  691. 36:56decided to act to save the order of his
  692. 36:59village
  693. 37:00his teenage son looked on
  694. 37:03yeah
  695. 37:13foreign
  696. 37:53foreign
  697. 38:37[Music]
  698. 38:45foreign
  699. 38:48such scenes were repeated throughout the
  700. 38:51Western Punjab in March and April 1947.
  701. 38:54[Music]
  702. 39:04with the threat of all-out conflict a
  703. 39:06deal became a matter of urgency
  704. 39:12the Congress leader Pandit Nero now had
  705. 39:15power within his grasp
  706. 39:17but to get the British out quickly he
  707. 39:19had to compromise
  708. 39:21he abandoned his dream of a United India
  709. 39:24and accepted partition
  710. 39:28a statement will be read to you tonight
  711. 39:30giving the final decision of his
  712. 39:32Majesty's government as the method by
  713. 39:35which power will be transferred from
  714. 39:37British to Indian head on the night of
  715. 39:39June 3rd 1947 mountbatten Jinnah and
  716. 39:43nehru broadcast the news that they had
  717. 39:45finally struck a deal they would divide
  718. 39:47India in two I lost 17 in every
  719. 39:52community
  720. 39:53particularly the Muslim India to
  721. 39:57maintain peace and importance
  722. 39:59I couldn't believe it
  723. 40:01I couldn't believe it
  724. 40:04I I I it was like a dream come true you
  725. 40:08know
  726. 40:09Mighty forces are at work in the world
  727. 40:12today and in India
  728. 40:15and I have no doubt that we are ushering
  729. 40:17in a period of greatness for India
  730. 40:20I remember I heaped a sigh of relief
  731. 40:23that there was partition because we did
  732. 40:27not want to live with the Muslims
  733. 40:29anymore
  734. 40:30but there can be no question of coercing
  735. 40:32any large areas in which one Community
  736. 40:34has a majority to live against their
  737. 40:37will under a government in which another
  738. 40:39Community as a majority
  739. 40:44the partition deal involved giving those
  740. 40:46provinces with a Muslim majority to
  741. 40:48Pakistan and those with a Hindu one to
  742. 40:50India
  743. 40:51but mountbatten and Nero insisted that
  744. 40:53the Punjab and Bengal would be treated
  745. 40:55differently despite their Muslim
  746. 40:57majorities
  747. 40:58Jenna was forced to accept that both
  748. 41:00these provinces would be cut in half and
  749. 41:02divided between India and Pakistan
  750. 41:07the next day at a press conference
  751. 41:09mountbatten dropped a bombshell Britain
  752. 41:12would not be leaving in June 1948 as had
  753. 41:15been planned but on August 15 1947 just
  754. 41:19three months away
  755. 41:20when asked why the date had been brought
  756. 41:22forward by nearly a year mountbatten
  757. 41:24replied why should we wait waiting would
  758. 41:27mean that I should be responsible
  759. 41:29ultimately for Law and Order it should
  760. 41:32have been possible for them to say that
  761. 41:34look there's no great hurry don't fix
  762. 41:36the timetable let the legit let it
  763. 41:39proceed in a more orderly manner
  764. 41:42but he was a
  765. 41:45a decisive man this is the job I have to
  766. 41:48do this is the date by which I'll do it
  767. 41:51[Music]
  768. 41:53this this was his personality
  769. 41:58that made the pace of the partition
  770. 42:01Furious impossible to moderate
  771. 42:04it was no question of it being
  772. 42:08too soon it was much too late because in
  773. 42:11fact when he arrived if he saw the
  774. 42:13situation was so much more volcanic than
  775. 42:17he'd
  776. 42:18been led to believe in England and he
  777. 42:21had that diary that he had over
  778. 42:23everybody's desk saying however many
  779. 42:25days to Independence because it seemed
  780. 42:28so unbelievable and the next morning he
  781. 42:30went into your office it was one day
  782. 42:33less and it certainly concentrated
  783. 42:35people's minds
  784. 42:40foreign
  785. 42:44s to go no decision had been made on one
  786. 42:47crucial matter
  787. 42:49where the border between Pakistan and
  788. 42:51India would lie
  789. 42:53a new boundary had to be urgently drawn
  790. 42:55up
  791. 42:57the man chosen for the task had never
  792. 42:59been east of Paris
  793. 43:01British Barrister Cecil Radcliffe
  794. 43:07it was a very remarkable man it was not
  795. 43:10just the
  796. 43:11quality of his mind uh though that was
  797. 43:14formidable
  798. 43:16perhaps the most vulnerable I ever
  799. 43:17encountered I think
  800. 43:19he had this unerving gift
  801. 43:22for going to the heart of anything he
  802. 43:24was discussing
  803. 43:25he he came very clearly to a rational
  804. 43:28conclusion he was a very rational man
  805. 43:34on July 8th Radcliffe arrived in India
  806. 43:42he moved into a bungalow in the
  807. 43:43viceroy's estate
  808. 43:46with partition only 36 days away he met
  809. 43:48mambatan
  810. 43:51the brilliant and serious Barrister did
  811. 43:53not quite hit it off with the flamboyant
  812. 43:55Viceroy
  813. 43:56I think he thought that he was
  814. 43:59a vain man
  815. 44:01um
  816. 44:03and not a man whose judgment was totally
  817. 44:06relied upon
  818. 44:08but he didn't he didn't dislike him and
  819. 44:11I think he respected the fact that
  820. 44:14mountbatten
  821. 44:15was the last place I saw it and doing
  822. 44:18the best he could with a very difficult
  823. 44:19remate could you get me the figures
  824. 44:22please for the gurdaspar district
  825. 44:26um I believe I'm writing saying that
  826. 44:28there is a narrow Muslim majority but
  827. 44:30not a substantial one uh yes 50.50 with
  828. 44:34his private secretary Christopher
  829. 44:36Beaumont Radcliffe began his work
  830. 44:39his toughest job would be in the Punjab
  831. 44:41and Bengal which were being divided in
  832. 44:43two
  833. 44:45Radcliffe was being asked to draw a line
  834. 44:47through the middle of both provinces
  835. 44:51in doing so he would look at which
  836. 44:53religion was in a majority in each
  837. 44:55individual District but he would also
  838. 44:58take into account other factors such as
  839. 45:00the collection of Railways canals and
  840. 45:02irrigation channels
  841. 45:07in the streets of its great Capital
  842. 45:09Lahore there was uncertainty over which
  843. 45:12side of the city the Border would fall
  844. 45:18[Music]
  845. 45:22Satish gudral was an art student in
  846. 45:25Lahore from a politically influential
  847. 45:27Hindu family
  848. 45:28[Music]
  849. 45:29foreign
  850. 45:36there were more chance that the whole
  851. 45:39will go to Indian side
  852. 45:43because seeing everything belong to in
  853. 45:46those
  854. 45:49educational
  855. 45:51Money Bank insurance
  856. 46:00[Music]
  857. 46:10foreign
  858. 46:23[Music]
  859. 46:28with tension increasing the British
  860. 46:30government decided this was the moment
  861. 46:32to bring most of the remaining troops
  862. 46:34home
  863. 46:36[Music]
  864. 46:45with just over a month to partition
  865. 46:47tension on the streets of Lahore began
  866. 46:50to turn to violence
  867. 46:54there was a date and everybody then knew
  868. 46:57that
  869. 47:00do whatever you can now because after
  870. 47:02this date you won't be able to do it
  871. 47:04whether it's looting Muslims or looting
  872. 47:06Hindus whatever it might be
  873. 47:09so therefore the the the the date
  874. 47:13itself became a driver
  875. 47:19with the borders still to be decided
  876. 47:21Muslims Sikhs and Hindus began to clear
  877. 47:24their neighborhoods of anyone not of
  878. 47:26their community
  879. 47:27[Music]
  880. 47:44[Music]
  881. 47:52foreign foreign
  882. 48:06despite violence erupting around the
  883. 48:08Punjab the British presence was now
  884. 48:11minimal
  885. 48:12John Morris and his small group of
  886. 48:14gurkhas did what they could in Lahore
  887. 48:17we tried to get in there quickly and say
  888. 48:19well what's happened with the police and
  889. 48:22they said well this shop's been set on
  890. 48:23fire and then the next thing which upped
  891. 48:26it would be someone would be killed or
  892. 48:28burnt
  893. 48:30um and so then you get a reprisal from
  894. 48:33the other side then picking on some
  895. 48:35deals and gradually this is how it
  896. 48:37escalated it was like a Bushfire
  897. 48:39and it was difficult to control
  898. 48:45as Lahore tore itself apart malbutton
  899. 48:49had other problems to solve
  900. 48:51partition was just a few weeks away but
  901. 48:54the future of large parts of India had
  902. 48:56yet to be decided that of the princely
  903. 48:58states
  904. 49:00[Music]
  905. 49:02foreign ruled by princes the
  906. 49:05semi-autonomous states were dotted
  907. 49:07around India they had been allowed to
  908. 49:09run their own Affairs in return for
  909. 49:10their loyalty to the British crowd
  910. 49:16the princes assumed the British would
  911. 49:19allow them to decide their own fate
  912. 49:20after they left but mountbatten had done
  913. 49:23a secret deal with neru he would have
  914. 49:26most of them over to India
  915. 49:29Narendra Singh sarila than a young
  916. 49:31prince attended the meeting where
  917. 49:33mountbatten announced their future
  918. 49:37foreign
  919. 49:3847
  920. 49:40my father said that the last chamber of
  921. 49:44Princess meeting is going to take place
  922. 49:46in Delhi
  923. 49:48in which mountbatten will address the
  924. 49:50princes it is an important meeting you
  925. 49:52go you deputize for me he was trying to
  926. 49:54build me up
  927. 49:58on July 25th the princes gathered to
  928. 50:01hear what mountbatten was offering them
  929. 50:08he who came and stood in front on the
  930. 50:11podium
  931. 50:12and I remember that he looked left and
  932. 50:17right
  933. 50:18while pictures were taken it was it was
  934. 50:21perfect
  935. 50:22Showmanship and then he started
  936. 50:25addressing the princes your highnesses
  937. 50:28ladies and gentlemen and he said that we
  938. 50:32have no alternative but to sign the
  939. 50:33instrument recession
  940. 50:35mountbatten told the princes they had
  941. 50:37little Choice join the Indian Union or
  942. 50:39be swept away in a wave of democratic
  943. 50:42change
  944. 50:43and I think this made a great impression
  945. 50:45and many of the princes who had these
  946. 50:47ideas that they would they would become
  947. 50:49independent and do what they like they
  948. 50:51just collapsed they realized that if
  949. 50:54they didn't sign
  950. 50:56most of the princes small ones most
  951. 51:00probably wiped out
  952. 51:03with the princes in the bag the
  953. 51:05partition settlement was nearly complete
  954. 51:08all that remained was the final border
  955. 51:11down to Cicero Radcliffe
  956. 51:15I think it was the loneliness of the
  957. 51:17decision which uh I remember him talking
  958. 51:20about it wasn't a single sedition it was
  959. 51:23a series of decisions about where the
  960. 51:24line should be drawn these decisions
  961. 51:26were going to be his and he had to take
  962. 51:29responsibility for them and I think he
  963. 51:31found that a lonely experience by
  964. 51:33comparison with some of the things he'd
  965. 51:35done
  966. 51:38so Cyril had no time to see what was
  967. 51:40happening in the lands he was dissecting
  968. 51:45his approach to drawing up the boundary
  969. 51:47separating majority hindu-sik areas from
  970. 51:50majority Muslim ones almost certainly
  971. 51:52encouraged the religious cleansing of
  972. 51:54entire districts
  973. 51:58there were areas where the margins were
  974. 52:00not very great
  975. 52:02therefore the majority in those areas
  976. 52:05wanted to make sure
  977. 52:07that
  978. 52:08the process didn't get fudged with small
  979. 52:10numbers
  980. 52:13so drive those the minority out whether
  981. 52:15it is Hindu or Muslim minority to make
  982. 52:18sure that this bit of territory doesn't
  983. 52:20slip out your hands
  984. 52:23[Music]
  985. 52:27Mayhem now ensued in The Villages of the
  986. 52:29Punjab
  987. 52:30a few individuals took a stand Dylan's
  988. 52:33grandfather was threatened for trying to
  989. 52:35protect his Muslim Neighbors
  990. 52:36[Music]
  991. 52:40some people had often sent messages to
  992. 52:42my grandfather
  993. 52:44that people who were going about looting
  994. 52:47and killing Muslims they wanted to
  995. 52:50eliminate our family because we were
  996. 52:53putting a obstacle in their way
  997. 52:56but my grandfather would not be deterred
  998. 52:59he would not be afraid he was that way
  999. 53:26[Music]
  1000. 53:32no no no no no no
  1001. 53:35nobody better
  1002. 53:43now
  1003. 53:45I'm fine
  1004. 53:47but if it is
  1005. 54:05foreign
  1006. 54:28[Music]
  1007. 54:31troops scoured the countryside trying to
  1008. 54:34stop the violence
  1009. 54:36but by then there were just too few to
  1010. 54:38make a difference
  1011. 54:42one had messages coming in all the time
  1012. 54:45by hand written messages I can remember
  1013. 54:48one it was rather sad pathetic note by
  1014. 54:51some chap who could write a little bit
  1015. 54:54of English and he had been in the Indian
  1016. 54:56Navy and on a scrap of paper this came
  1017. 54:59in one day saying I I'm a home on leave
  1018. 55:02at this particular Village
  1019. 55:04and my name is certain so my number is
  1020. 55:07certain so please can you come and help
  1021. 55:09us because we are going to be attacked
  1022. 55:14but by the time are we located The
  1023. 55:17Village
  1024. 55:18we got there and the village had been
  1025. 55:21attacked and I couldn't find this man a
  1026. 55:22lot of people were killed so it was that
  1027. 55:25sort of message it was sad you know
  1028. 55:27people were desperate for help and knew
  1029. 55:29where we were but when I say we were
  1030. 55:31we're only 100 people I mean the whole
  1031. 55:34area was something like what 40 40 50
  1032. 55:38000 square miles
  1033. 55:43one Village I went into where we knew
  1034. 55:46there was something of foot I hadn't
  1035. 55:48been told to go there I was coming back
  1036. 55:49at the end of a patrol
  1037. 55:51and I saw vultures circling and so that
  1038. 55:54was usually a pretty good indicator and
  1039. 55:57got into the village
  1040. 55:59and sure enough it had been completely
  1041. 56:02decimated
  1042. 56:05[Music]
  1043. 56:08the well was full of bodies women by one
  1044. 56:11woman and being pregnant and she'd been
  1045. 56:12carved out and completely and breasts
  1046. 56:15had been cut off and
  1047. 56:17an awful awful atrocities
  1048. 56:25foreign
  1049. 56:36[Music]
  1050. 56:46[Music]
  1051. 56:50murder was down every day occurrence
  1052. 56:54with Partition just two weeks away
  1053. 56:55rumors circulated that the city would go
  1054. 56:58to Pakistan
  1055. 57:01lahore's richer Hindus took no chances
  1056. 57:04[Music]
  1057. 57:11the Hindus started Living much before
  1058. 57:15the partition Lahore they knew the Lord
  1059. 57:18would go to Pakistan they started
  1060. 57:20leaving the city but they pretended that
  1061. 57:24they are not leaving
  1062. 57:28they kept their drying rooms as as it
  1063. 57:32were there all these sofas and all these
  1064. 57:35all the furniture was there in the
  1065. 57:37hearts there was a a hope lingered that
  1066. 57:42Lahore would be on this side
  1067. 57:45thank you
  1068. 57:46[Music]
  1069. 57:52foreign
  1070. 58:03[Music]
  1071. 58:07said if they could live under the
  1072. 58:09British they could live under the
  1073. 58:11Muslims
  1074. 58:12[Music]
  1075. 58:14I didn't want to leave
  1076. 58:16my father also didn't want to leave he
  1077. 58:19hoped and he said okay all these people
  1078. 58:22who are leaving their Foods they'll come
  1079. 58:24back tomorrow
  1080. 58:30but that was not true when our neighbors
  1081. 58:34started Living one by one he still hoped
  1082. 58:39our closest neighbors who we had very
  1083. 58:43close relationship the bhatyas when they
  1084. 58:47left my father wept
  1085. 58:49that day
  1086. 58:54as thousands fled Muslim gangs Set Fire
  1087. 58:57to the secret Hindu areas of the old
  1088. 58:59city
  1089. 59:00the old Lahore beautiful and historic
  1090. 59:03was in flames
  1091. 59:09night when I used to sleep on the
  1092. 59:12Terrace I could see the Hindu shalmy
  1093. 59:16area burning
  1094. 59:18five miles away
  1095. 59:23foreign
  1096. 59:29was a thickly populated Hindu area
  1097. 59:33it was burned down completely
  1098. 59:36and I could see five miles away
  1099. 59:40the Flames the light all that and we
  1100. 59:44were so terrified that night
  1101. 59:50all around my house
  1102. 59:53people were running
  1103. 59:55children others women
  1104. 1:00:00he said mobs are coming
  1105. 1:00:03and the area is on fire
  1106. 1:00:08told me to run at once if you want to
  1107. 1:00:10save your life
  1108. 1:00:19[Music]
  1109. 1:00:23the whole Horizon full of fire smoke and
  1110. 1:00:27all red
  1111. 1:00:28it was such a sad sad sad
  1112. 1:00:32moment for my life seeing Lahore is such
  1113. 1:00:35a beautiful city it was all burning
  1114. 1:00:37I have done what I can in Drawing the
  1115. 1:00:41Line
  1116. 1:00:43to eliminate any avoidable cutting
  1117. 1:00:48of Railway Communications
  1118. 1:00:50and of river systems
  1119. 1:00:54which are on August 9 through at
  1120. 1:00:56Clifford finished drawing up the Border
  1121. 1:00:58but my button decided to keep the new
  1122. 1:01:00boundary a secret until after
  1123. 1:01:02Independence so the British wouldn't be
  1124. 1:01:04blamed for any ensuing violence of this
  1125. 1:01:07Interruption the delay prolonged the
  1126. 1:01:09uncertainty and some believe it
  1127. 1:01:11increased the loss of life
  1128. 1:01:13[Music]
  1129. 1:01:15Radcliffe
  1130. 1:01:19why
  1131. 1:01:21capital decision
  1132. 1:01:30feel much killing would have been saved
  1133. 1:01:35if they had announced the faith of Lord
  1134. 1:01:3815 days before
  1135. 1:01:43on the eve of Independence Radcliffe
  1136. 1:01:46wrote to his stepson in London
  1137. 1:01:47[Music]
  1138. 1:01:50nobody in India will love me for my
  1139. 1:01:51award about the Punjab and Bengal and
  1140. 1:01:54there will be roughly 80 million people
  1141. 1:01:55with the grievance who will begin
  1142. 1:01:57looking for me
  1143. 1:01:58I do not want them to find me
  1144. 1:02:01I've worked and traveled and sweated oh
  1145. 1:02:03I have sweated the whole time
  1146. 1:02:07[Music]
  1147. 1:02:09Radcliffe left India four days later
  1148. 1:02:13never to return
  1149. 1:02:16he was deeply conscious that his rulings
  1150. 1:02:19or his recommendations his would
  1151. 1:02:22generate
  1152. 1:02:24controversy conflict
  1153. 1:02:26and the possibility of a lot a loss of a
  1154. 1:02:29lot of human life
  1155. 1:02:31um
  1156. 1:02:32I do remember him saying that
  1157. 1:02:36any solution
  1158. 1:02:38any drawing of the line would have done
  1159. 1:02:41that
  1160. 1:02:45on August 14 1947 a new country was born
  1161. 1:02:50on the subcontinent
  1162. 1:02:52Jenna's dream of a Muslim Homeland
  1163. 1:02:54became a reality in Pakistan
  1164. 1:02:57[Music]
  1165. 1:03:04through karachi's streets drives the
  1166. 1:03:06katyazam Muhammad Ali dinner Pakistan's
  1167. 1:03:08first governor general it's karachi's
  1168. 1:03:10first day of independence and the crowds
  1169. 1:03:12are out to greet him and Earl
  1170. 1:03:13mountbatten
  1171. 1:03:15button was in Karachi to declare
  1172. 1:03:17independence for the newly created state
  1173. 1:03:20bazali no one except he and Radcliffe
  1174. 1:03:23knew where its borders were but this
  1175. 1:03:25didn't stop the celebrations
  1176. 1:03:31it never occurred to us that the Muslims
  1177. 1:03:35of India will ever see the emergence of
  1178. 1:03:39his Sovereign independent country but
  1179. 1:03:43they could call their own you see
  1180. 1:03:47a country they could live for a country
  1181. 1:03:49they could die for decision it never
  1182. 1:03:52occurred to us you know
  1183. 1:03:57the next day it was the third of India
  1184. 1:03:59to celebrate
  1185. 1:04:03[Music]
  1186. 1:04:07[Applause]
  1187. 1:04:10hundreds of thousands thrown the streets
  1188. 1:04:12as nehru mountbatten his wife Edwina and
  1189. 1:04:15their daughter Pamela made their way to
  1190. 1:04:17the constituent assembly
  1191. 1:04:21[Music]
  1192. 1:04:23unfortunately when my parents arrive
  1193. 1:04:26they can't get in because the crowd is
  1194. 1:04:29so thick but so thick that they can't
  1195. 1:04:32open the doors so there's no way for
  1196. 1:04:35them to get in
  1197. 1:04:36so somebody has to crawl in some window
  1198. 1:04:39and and go to the Prime Minister and say
  1199. 1:04:42it's lame difficult otherwise right I
  1200. 1:04:44can't get in because the crowd is so
  1201. 1:04:47vast will you come and sort it out so
  1202. 1:04:49now we have to sort of scuttle around
  1203. 1:04:50back and start hitting people and
  1204. 1:04:53shouting at people and clearing away
  1205. 1:04:55when she was always brilliant out and
  1206. 1:04:57loved doing
  1207. 1:04:58and eventually my parents were allowed
  1208. 1:05:01to make their state intrinsically less
  1209. 1:05:05um dignified them but had been expected
  1210. 1:05:13[Music]
  1211. 1:05:22where you must remember that whatever
  1212. 1:05:24the tragedy of partition there are the
  1213. 1:05:26aspects to it and it was an exhilarating
  1214. 1:05:29occasion and there were millions of
  1215. 1:05:31people out on the streets celebrating
  1216. 1:05:33for my uncle and for his colleagues
  1217. 1:05:37it was the realization though not in
  1218. 1:05:42whole but in part of their lifelong
  1219. 1:05:45dream the cause to which they had given
  1220. 1:05:48their entire lives
  1221. 1:05:50and here it was
  1222. 1:05:52Indian independence
  1223. 1:05:54[Applause]
  1224. 1:05:57but not everyone was celebrated
  1225. 1:06:00Gandhi who for decades had struggled for
  1226. 1:06:03a United Independent India lay fasting
  1227. 1:06:06in Calcutta
  1228. 1:06:07his disciple Ashoka Gupta was with him
  1229. 1:06:11we're disappointed man he was a man in
  1230. 1:06:14distress and he founded that whoever
  1231. 1:06:17people went with him
  1232. 1:06:19to start with
  1233. 1:06:20now I deserting him the desertion by
  1234. 1:06:23other leaders
  1235. 1:06:25I think hurt him very much
  1236. 1:06:27he wanted to die
  1237. 1:06:30his attitude was let me die
  1238. 1:06:39with the celebrations over mountbatten
  1239. 1:06:42finally announced the new border
  1240. 1:06:45foreign
  1241. 1:06:49through the previously United provinces
  1242. 1:06:51of Bengal and Punjab
  1243. 1:06:55Lahore was given to Pakistan a disaster
  1244. 1:06:58for the city's few remaining Hindus
  1245. 1:07:02we were dejected and we were so sorry
  1246. 1:07:05because she those Hindus by that time
  1247. 1:07:08Hindus had realized that it would not be
  1248. 1:07:11possible for them to stay in Pakistan
  1249. 1:07:15[Music]
  1250. 1:07:24millions of people were now on the move
  1251. 1:07:27Muslims who found themselves on the
  1252. 1:07:29Indian side of the border and Hindus and
  1253. 1:07:31Sikhs who were on the Pakistani side
  1254. 1:07:38they packed their belongings onto
  1255. 1:07:40Bullock carts and left the villagers
  1256. 1:07:42they had lived in for Generations
  1257. 1:07:47foreign
  1258. 1:07:55foreign
  1259. 1:08:17[Music]
  1260. 1:08:30the refugees formed human Caravans
  1261. 1:08:33called carthalas
  1262. 1:08:34[Music]
  1263. 1:08:43the lucky ones and Military escorts to
  1264. 1:08:45protect them from armed bands waiting on
  1265. 1:08:48the roads
  1266. 1:08:50the first
  1267. 1:08:52major Refugee movement the biggest
  1268. 1:08:55concentration was about a 50 miles long
  1269. 1:08:59column of over uh
  1270. 1:09:02200 000 people was moved and I was
  1271. 1:09:07escorting it from Jalandhar onwards up
  1272. 1:09:10to the Pakistan border
  1273. 1:09:13Hussein was a young army officer he had
  1274. 1:09:16been sent to the Punjab to deal with
  1275. 1:09:17disturbances On the Border
  1276. 1:09:21we had very few troops with us very few
  1277. 1:09:23troops with us so here were these people
  1278. 1:09:26there were no Dark Water elements they
  1279. 1:09:29have no arrangement for the medical
  1280. 1:09:30cover there was nothing except that we
  1281. 1:09:33had collected these people in Open
  1282. 1:09:35Spaces they were told to move
  1283. 1:09:39and they were moving on foot
  1284. 1:09:42some had Bullock cars they put their
  1285. 1:09:44belongings on the Block cars and their
  1286. 1:09:46old people and children others were on
  1287. 1:09:48the foot and we used to do about in the
  1288. 1:09:52initially we used to do about 15 to 20
  1289. 1:09:54miles in a day but as they got tired
  1290. 1:09:57that the days passed by they had been
  1291. 1:10:00less and less
  1292. 1:10:09foreign
  1293. 1:10:37throughout August and September The
  1294. 1:10:39Columns of refugees grew and Grew From
  1295. 1:10:42hundreds of thousands to Millions
  1296. 1:10:46will you imagine two million people on
  1297. 1:10:49one road virtually
  1298. 1:10:51and it's just a seething mass of people
  1299. 1:10:53trying to get water trying to call him
  1300. 1:10:56Wells were poisoned
  1301. 1:10:58um trying to find food trying to cope
  1302. 1:11:01trying to cook
  1303. 1:11:02women having children and it's awful
  1304. 1:11:05awful things
  1305. 1:11:08[Music]
  1306. 1:11:15and of course they often tried to stop
  1307. 1:11:17us and to ask for help and sometimes if
  1308. 1:11:21depending what we were doing we'd stop
  1309. 1:11:24and say what's the matter what you want
  1310. 1:11:25and then they'd say we know with no food
  1311. 1:11:28I'm sorry I can't I can't do anything
  1312. 1:11:30for you because that was no job
  1313. 1:11:32we just didn't have any food to give
  1314. 1:11:34them
  1315. 1:11:35[Music]
  1316. 1:11:48first they used to start throwing their
  1317. 1:11:51baggage with they were carrying
  1318. 1:11:52everybody whatever little they had to
  1319. 1:11:54carry after three four days they used to
  1320. 1:11:57gradually drop and then they were left
  1321. 1:12:00with just the clothes shutter tattered
  1322. 1:12:04and lastly the mothers leaving their
  1323. 1:12:08small babies that was our biggest
  1324. 1:12:10problem
  1325. 1:12:11and there were these crawling babies
  1326. 1:12:14and on the side of the road with these
  1327. 1:12:17thousands and thousands of people just
  1328. 1:12:19moving so the terrible sight terrible
  1329. 1:12:21side
  1330. 1:12:22[Music]
  1331. 1:12:35tens of thousands of people boarded
  1332. 1:12:38special Refugee trains that made their
  1333. 1:12:40way between India and Pakistan
  1334. 1:12:42[Music]
  1335. 1:12:43they were easy prey for the armed gangs
  1336. 1:12:45that roamed the countryside it was John
  1337. 1:12:48Moore's job to escort a trainload of
  1338. 1:12:50Muslim refugees to Pakistan
  1339. 1:12:52[Music]
  1340. 1:12:56it wasn't a train it was just a lot of
  1341. 1:12:58coal wagons steel coal wagons and this
  1342. 1:13:00of course is August which is pretty hot
  1343. 1:13:05and
  1344. 1:13:07we loaded up these these wretched
  1345. 1:13:09refugees
  1346. 1:13:17it was very distressing and the journey
  1347. 1:13:19from ambala to to amritsa by train
  1348. 1:13:22normally would you would do it in about
  1349. 1:13:24I suppose four or five hours
  1350. 1:13:28and um in this case it took four days
  1351. 1:13:32[Music]
  1352. 1:13:46there was no water very little water on
  1353. 1:13:48the way we had our own supplies of water
  1354. 1:13:50for the three platoons
  1355. 1:13:52but we had a job to do and we couldn't
  1356. 1:13:55help him help them
  1357. 1:14:01foreign
  1358. 1:14:15they reached the Sikh stronghold of
  1359. 1:14:18amritsa
  1360. 1:14:19just 14 miles from the border they were
  1361. 1:14:22forced to stop to pick up water
  1362. 1:14:24the station had been taken over by
  1363. 1:14:26hundreds of armed Sikhs
  1364. 1:14:29and Richard stay Nation
  1365. 1:14:31was crawling with me it was packed it
  1366. 1:14:34was like sardines right across not just
  1367. 1:14:37the platforms but across the tracks They
  1368. 1:14:40all had weapons of some sort or another
  1369. 1:14:42some were old blunderbusses some were
  1370. 1:14:45fairly modern rifles
  1371. 1:14:47Spears swords they were shoulder to
  1372. 1:14:51shoulder crowds and pushy and shouting
  1373. 1:14:53and screaming and
  1374. 1:14:55you realize that you were just going
  1375. 1:14:58into a hell and if you didn't look tough
  1376. 1:15:01it was you were you were trouble because
  1377. 1:15:03they would then have gone for us before
  1378. 1:15:06the refugees
  1379. 1:15:08and um
  1380. 1:15:10I said the thing to do
  1381. 1:15:12um to get the grenades out let them see
  1382. 1:15:16a lot of them are ex-soul disease people
  1383. 1:15:18here the weapons they were carrying
  1384. 1:15:20Let Them See You priming grades Prime
  1385. 1:15:22the grenades and that they all know you
  1386. 1:15:24mean business then
  1387. 1:15:26and doing that they the crowd sort of
  1388. 1:15:28melted back and away and left us clear
  1389. 1:15:32and I suppose we must have been in the
  1390. 1:15:34station for about four hours something
  1391. 1:15:36like that
  1392. 1:15:39and Justice Dawn was breaking we managed
  1393. 1:15:42to to pull away the engine to do the
  1394. 1:15:44last 14 miles
  1395. 1:15:47[Music]
  1396. 1:15:50there had been very little planning for
  1397. 1:15:52the movement of refugees or their
  1398. 1:15:54protection
  1399. 1:15:54[Music]
  1400. 1:15:56most British troops had already been
  1401. 1:15:57sent home whilst Indian and Pakistani
  1402. 1:16:00forces were in total disarray
  1403. 1:16:02[Music]
  1404. 1:16:06they were totally inadequate forces and
  1405. 1:16:10the reason was very simple because the
  1406. 1:16:12Indian army was being split at the same
  1407. 1:16:15time don't forget that the troops were
  1408. 1:16:18also concerned about their families
  1409. 1:16:20because wherever they came from the
  1410. 1:16:23trouble was going on in their homes also
  1411. 1:16:25they were very much concerned and most
  1412. 1:16:27of them were on leave or they were on
  1413. 1:16:29the process of joining their new unit or
  1414. 1:16:31they're already joined so the very much
  1415. 1:16:34very few bodies on the ground really
  1416. 1:16:37speaking available to us to deal with
  1417. 1:16:39the job
  1418. 1:16:40[Music]
  1419. 1:16:44most trains had no military escorts with
  1420. 1:16:47inevitable consequences
  1421. 1:16:53John Moores was called to ambala station
  1422. 1:16:55to meet a train that had been attacked
  1423. 1:16:59this was a train load of I'd know five
  1424. 1:17:01six hundred seven hundred people
  1425. 1:17:04most of whom had been killed slaughtered
  1426. 1:17:07mainly elderly people young children
  1427. 1:17:12young women
  1428. 1:17:15and they had been attacked
  1429. 1:17:18and slaughtered
  1430. 1:17:20shot
  1431. 1:17:22I can remember seeing a young woman over
  1432. 1:17:25there she was still alive her head open
  1433. 1:17:27cut open and you could see our brains
  1434. 1:17:30and knew there was nothing that we could
  1435. 1:17:32do we hadn't got any surgical facilities
  1436. 1:17:35or anything like that but it was it was
  1437. 1:17:38a horrendous horrendous thing
  1438. 1:17:40and I still think about it very much
  1439. 1:17:45art student Satish goodrel helped
  1440. 1:17:47organize the transportation of refugees
  1441. 1:17:50in amritsa he saw the hatred partitioned
  1442. 1:17:53abroad nearby
  1443. 1:17:58had been readily
  1444. 1:18:00and all these girls had been brought out
  1445. 1:18:04certainly
  1446. 1:18:06they are taken in procession to this
  1447. 1:18:09this location
  1448. 1:18:11where they were being systematically
  1449. 1:18:13raped
  1450. 1:18:16I have regarding my life story
  1451. 1:18:20that man watching it
  1452. 1:18:23I looked at the face
  1453. 1:18:26of those are the
  1454. 1:18:28who were attending it
  1455. 1:18:30in a search of compassion
  1456. 1:18:35I found none
  1457. 1:18:43in the coming months around 15 million
  1458. 1:18:46people made the journey from one side to
  1459. 1:18:48the other
  1460. 1:18:49foreign
  1461. 1:18:53million were dead
  1462. 1:18:57thousands more lay abandoned in
  1463. 1:18:59makeshift refugee camps stuck on the
  1464. 1:19:02wrong side of the Border
  1465. 1:19:09the vicerine now led the relief effort
  1466. 1:19:13my mother was forever visiting the the
  1467. 1:19:15Punjab she visited
  1468. 1:19:17in five months
  1469. 1:19:19she did 70 major tours of the Punjab
  1470. 1:19:25into the camps and trying to organize
  1471. 1:19:28organize the camps organize the
  1472. 1:19:30hospitals get guards on the hospitals
  1473. 1:19:33get food
  1474. 1:19:35and they soon learned that tell lady
  1475. 1:19:39mount back on something or answer one of
  1476. 1:19:42her questions and something will happen
  1477. 1:19:47[Music]
  1478. 1:19:50the new prime minister of India toured
  1479. 1:19:53some of the camps with them finally he
  1480. 1:19:56came face to face with the prices people
  1481. 1:19:58had paid for partition
  1482. 1:20:00Satish gudra was at a refugee camp in
  1483. 1:20:04Lahore when he arrived
  1484. 1:20:07you know
  1485. 1:20:10are you really recall everything
  1486. 1:20:12graphically
  1487. 1:20:15refugees wanted to kill him
  1488. 1:20:19he was shocked amen who grew up as the
  1489. 1:20:24darling of the people
  1490. 1:20:27was was going to be trained by the same
  1491. 1:20:29people
  1492. 1:20:29[Applause]
  1493. 1:20:33at the beginning
  1494. 1:20:36that evening I did not feel because I
  1495. 1:20:41thought foreign
  1496. 1:20:57I felt low reference toward him
  1497. 1:21:00[Music]
  1498. 1:21:06and foreign
  1499. 1:21:09there are now a few Hindus left
  1500. 1:21:12someone and his father were among the
  1501. 1:21:14last
  1502. 1:21:15in the weeks following partition they
  1503. 1:21:18came under attack from Muslim gangs
  1504. 1:21:19seeking a religiously pure Lahore
  1505. 1:21:23and it was free for all in the city
  1506. 1:21:25there was no one to check them so they
  1507. 1:21:28had come for that purpose and somebody
  1508. 1:21:30had given them our address and all that
  1509. 1:21:33and they came to kill us and to
  1510. 1:21:36unfortunately we had a very narrow
  1511. 1:21:38escape and I was with the neighbor with
  1512. 1:21:41a Muslim neighbor and diluted the
  1513. 1:21:44ransacked the house
  1514. 1:21:45took away all the all the clothes which
  1515. 1:21:49they could use on Lower shoes and when
  1516. 1:21:53our Muslim neighbor raised he raised a
  1517. 1:21:55human cry
  1518. 1:21:57they said we'll shoot you if you if you
  1519. 1:22:00support the cafes
  1520. 1:22:04to achiever for some of his father who
  1521. 1:22:06throughout the violence had held out the
  1522. 1:22:08hope that they could stay on in the city
  1523. 1:22:09of their birth
  1524. 1:22:12[Music]
  1525. 1:22:15then we decided to go to Delhi straight
  1526. 1:22:17away went to the airport and came to
  1527. 1:22:19Delhi with our two clothes no or nothing
  1528. 1:22:24we left in a plane my father bought two
  1529. 1:22:27tickets for Delhi
  1530. 1:22:30I saw the our houses when the plane went
  1531. 1:22:34up
  1532. 1:22:35fried over um Model Town I wept
  1533. 1:22:43[Music]
  1534. 1:22:47village where the Muslims had been
  1535. 1:22:50protected by his grandfather the Indian
  1536. 1:22:52army arrived one day and ordered the
  1537. 1:22:53Muslims out
  1538. 1:22:55foreign
  1539. 1:22:58it was the sort of very heavy moment
  1540. 1:23:01there were tearful
  1541. 1:23:04departures and farewells
  1542. 1:23:06the Muslims left most of their
  1543. 1:23:09assets and properties with their
  1544. 1:23:11neighbors
  1545. 1:23:13thinking that they would be able to come
  1546. 1:23:15again to pick those things up
  1547. 1:23:17[Music]
  1548. 1:23:24initially the people felt very remorse
  1549. 1:23:28about their going
  1550. 1:23:30but then in a couple of days
  1551. 1:23:34sort of they they try to occupy their
  1552. 1:23:37homes
  1553. 1:23:39they they try to take away whatever they
  1554. 1:23:41had left
  1555. 1:23:51in only a few months India had been
  1556. 1:23:54divided along religious lines
  1557. 1:23:56the Indian part of the Punjab was
  1558. 1:23:58cleared of nearly all its Muslims while
  1559. 1:24:00Pakistan was emptied of most of its
  1560. 1:24:02Sikhs in Hindus
  1561. 1:24:11Lahore once one of the most mixed cities
  1562. 1:24:14in all of India was now home only to
  1563. 1:24:17Muslims
  1564. 1:24:20gone was
  1565. 1:24:22the Cosmopolitan Lahore
  1566. 1:24:25God was
  1567. 1:24:26liberal tolerant Progressive Lord you
  1568. 1:24:29see but I think culturally
  1569. 1:24:33it was a great City in those days it was
  1570. 1:24:36a great City and always
  1571. 1:24:41with the passage of time
  1572. 1:24:43we became more conservative more
  1573. 1:24:48backward
  1574. 1:24:51intolerant
  1575. 1:24:52more pseudo-islamic pseudo-islamic
  1576. 1:24:58I think the
  1577. 1:25:01the
  1578. 1:25:02is of the Hindus who didn't treat the
  1579. 1:25:06Muslims as their equals
  1580. 1:25:10that was the root cause the Muslims and
  1581. 1:25:13Hindus couldn't integrate despite living
  1582. 1:25:16together for all these centuries
  1583. 1:25:23with the partition over the job was done
  1584. 1:25:25for the few British troops still left in
  1585. 1:25:27India
  1586. 1:25:29John Moore's returned to Britain at the
  1587. 1:25:31end of 1947.
  1588. 1:25:36I think the worst thing was that we
  1589. 1:25:40couldn't stop the violence
  1590. 1:25:43see
  1591. 1:25:45unnecessary cruelty is something which
  1592. 1:25:49we didn't really know much about
  1593. 1:25:51[Music]
  1594. 1:25:54button stayed on in India until the end
  1595. 1:25:56of 1948 as its Governor General
  1596. 1:26:00he returned to his career in the Navy
  1597. 1:26:01becoming First Sea Lord
  1598. 1:26:05he was killed by an IRA bomb in 1979.
  1599. 1:26:09the whole problem was that mountbatten
  1600. 1:26:13tried to do this job in Too Short a Time
  1601. 1:26:17to expect a country to be partitioned a
  1602. 1:26:20new country to be created and within two
  1603. 1:26:23months move the portion of the
  1604. 1:26:25government of India to Pakistan and to
  1605. 1:26:29move the troops to Pakistan from
  1606. 1:26:31Pakistan to India both a tremendous job
  1607. 1:26:34it cannot be done it and that's exactly
  1608. 1:26:36what happened everything went out of
  1609. 1:26:38control
  1610. 1:26:39[Music]
  1611. 1:26:46Satish gujra the Arts student from
  1612. 1:26:49Lahore became one of India's greatest
  1613. 1:26:51painters
  1614. 1:26:54foreign
  1615. 1:27:07and begin to paint
  1616. 1:27:09without any consciously afraid
  1617. 1:27:13this woman suffering
  1618. 1:27:15this is brutally a man to man
  1619. 1:27:18became my theme
  1620. 1:27:22[Music]
  1621. 1:27:26the Border created in 1947. become the
  1622. 1:27:30focus for three Wars and 60 years of
  1623. 1:27:33animosity between the government of
  1624. 1:27:34India and Pakistan
  1625. 1:27:38but for the people of the two countries
  1626. 1:27:40it was the tragedy of Separation that
  1627. 1:27:43lingered on
  1628. 1:27:44[Music]
  1629. 1:27:51I miss my friends
  1630. 1:27:54I couldn't understand why they had to go
  1631. 1:27:58why were they pushed away
  1632. 1:28:00that my only thing was that they were
  1633. 1:28:02being pushed away
  1634. 1:28:04I knew they were not going happily so I
  1635. 1:28:07couldn't understand why
  1636. 1:28:08[Music]
  1637. 1:28:11and I still think why
  1638. 1:28:16what did anybody get out of it
  1639. 1:28:28[Music]
  1640. 1:28:31and on BBC 4 at 11 in Midnight's
  1641. 1:28:34grandchildren three British teenagers
  1642. 1:28:36traveled to the Punjab to see how their
  1643. 1:28:38families were affected by partition
  1644. 1:28:40coming next here on BBC 2 News night
  1645. 1:28:44foreign
  1646. 1:28:45[Music]

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