Parent Alert: Whose Kids Are They, Anyway? — Transcript
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- 0:00Whose kids are they anyways? Well,
- 0:03you'll be encouraged to learn the answer
- 0:05right now on Parent Alert.
- 0:10Jill Simonian from PragerU Kids here.
- 0:12Welcome to Parent Alert. If you haven't
- 0:15already, friendly reminder to subscribe
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- 0:20resources you need to raise and educate
- 0:22kids about good character, history, our
- 0:25values, and the ideals of freedom that
- 0:28America is anchored in. Okay, you might
- 0:31be watching this live today on Facebook,
- 0:33YouTube, Instagram, and X. Later this
- 0:35episode is going to be on prageru.com,
- 0:37but before you go anywhere right now,
- 0:39drop me a comment. Tell me where you're
- 0:40watching from because we're in the belly
- 0:42of the beast of California and we want
- 0:44to know. So,
- 0:46today,
- 0:47we've had a lot of progress with
- 0:49parental rights these last few years,
- 0:51and the most recent one, of course, in
- 0:53March with Mirabelle versus Bonta. If
- 0:57you remember that case, if you don't
- 0:58know that case, go and look it up right
- 0:59now. It's an important one. But, with
- 1:02the return of back-to-school season
- 1:04happening now, of course, many parents
- 1:07still feel very helpless about how
- 1:11overreaching some school districts have
- 1:13become. I know that I am one of those
- 1:16parents who continues to feel helpless.
- 1:18I'm not despairing, but I do feel
- 1:20helpless many, many times. School
- 1:22districts and teachers unions are just
- 1:24not giving up
- 1:27their baseline philosophy of
- 1:30overreaching and implementing these
- 1:33these very overreaching directives that
- 1:36pretty much assault religious beliefs
- 1:38and parental authority.
- 1:41Take a look at the American Federation
- 1:42of Teachers and the National Education
- 1:44Association's
- 1:46resolutions this summer. You will see
- 1:48very quickly what I'm talking about in
- 1:50the most shocking and disappointing way.
- 1:52So, today, what we're going to do is
- 1:54we're going to share a vintage episode
- 1:57of Parent Alert from 2024.
- 2:00I know that seems like so long ago, but
- 2:01stick with me here. This was a
- 2:03conversation with Brad Dacus, founder of
- 2:06Pacific Justice Institute, which is a
- 2:08law firm that specializes in defending
- 2:10and protecting parental rights. So, with
- 2:14this conversation that I'm about to
- 2:16share right now, and I want you guys to
- 2:17comment along as you're watching or
- 2:19listening in real time, I hope this
- 2:22really encourages you and fortifies all
- 2:25of us with truth that we can stand tall
- 2:28with as we go deeper and deeper into
- 2:31this school year. So, enjoy this
- 2:33re-release
- 2:35clarifying
- 2:37all sorts of things, and of course
- 2:39arming us all with facts and tips for
- 2:43whose kids are they anyways.
- 2:47Just in time for this back-to-school
- 2:48season, I thought it would be helpful
- 2:51for all of us parents and teachers and
- 2:53grandparents and caregivers to really
- 2:55get informed and educated about what our
- 2:58rights as parents and caregivers
- 3:01actually are in this time where parental
- 3:05rights are being stripped away. And I
- 3:07couldn't think of any better person to
- 3:09talk about this with than Brad Dacus,
- 3:12attorney president of Pacific Justice
- 3:15Institute. You're the president founder
- 3:17of Pacific Justice Institute. You're a
- 3:19nonprofit law firm. So, are you ready to
- 3:21have the big talk today?
- 3:23>> I'm ready.
- 3:24>> Good. [laughter]
- 3:25I'm calling this a parent-to-parent talk
- 3:27because you are a parent, your children
- 3:29are grown and older, but today I really
- 3:31just want to tackle
- 3:33um
- 3:34things like what rights we have as
- 3:36parents, um compelled speech, mandates.
- 3:39Do us parents have any kind of recourse
- 3:42with all of these overreaching laws and
- 3:44directives that we see happening not
- 3:46only in California, but of course across
- 3:47the country, and you deal with all of
- 3:49that. So, before we begin, I'm hoping
- 3:52that you can share a little bit about
- 3:54Pacific Justice Institute and the
- 3:57wonderful work that you do
- 3:59um
- 4:00before we get into the conversation.
- 4:02>> Uh certainly. Um I founded Pacific
- 4:04Justice Institute uh by the grace of God
- 4:07uh with the help of former US Attorney
- 4:09General Ed Meese back in 1997.
- 4:12And I you know, at the time I you know,
- 4:15it was just right at the very beginning
- 4:17had a secretary, uh free office space
- 4:21and if I didn't uh if it wasn't up and
- 4:22running in 3 months, I was going to shut
- 4:24it down.
- 4:25>> [laughter]
- 4:25>> Uh I had a lot of conditions for to to
- 4:27God to make this thing work and he came
- 4:29through on all of it.
- 4:31Fast forward, we now have uh offices in
- 4:3430 states coast to coast.
- 4:37Um all our office space is donated.
- 4:39>> Wow.
- 4:39>> Uh we uh have uh a a a team of attorneys
- 4:43all across the country uh in those
- 4:45offices defending religious freedom,
- 4:47parents' rights against the government,
- 4:49the sanctity of human life
- 4:51all without charge. And what makes us so
- 4:52unique uh Jill, I think the most is that
- 4:55um we're very broad, but also we work
- 4:58hard to make sure that everyone gets
- 4:59help. So, we don't just cherry-pick a
- 5:01few high-profile cases. Uh we don't
- 5:04operate as a business. We have more of a
- 5:05ministry heart. We want to make sure
- 5:07that uh that no family is left behind,
- 5:09no church is left behind, or synagogue
- 5:11left behind. That's what we do uh to
- 5:13make a real difference. Right now, as we
- 5:16speak, we have 265
- 5:18cases in active litigation. And some of
- 5:20those are representing, you know,
- 5:22hundreds of plaintiffs at one time, just
- 5:24one case. So, uh we're very busy and we
- 5:27do all our work without charge. And uh
- 5:30we also have great resources as well
- 5:32that are also without charge. I know
- 5:34we're going to talk about a few of them
- 5:35that are going to uh really please a lot
- 5:37of people who are listening to the show.
- 5:38>> And they're all like you said, they're
- 5:40all free, they're on your website. In
- 5:41fact, we've linked to some of those
- 5:43resources before, including the
- 5:45customized opt-out form for parents with
- 5:47kids in schools. but we're going to get
- 5:49to that. We're going to get to that. Uh
- 5:51let's talk about let's just open this
- 5:53conversation about parental rights.
- 5:55We've seen laws passed in California
- 5:57recently, AB 1955. Of course, there are
- 5:59other ones. I look at all of these
- 6:02different directives that are trying to
- 6:05oust parents from schools. And as
- 6:07someone who is not an attorney, um but
- 6:10you know, I I am fascinated with the
- 6:12First Amendment. I always look at our US
- 6:15Constitution and say, "Oh no, our US
- 6:17Constitution supersedes all of these
- 6:18things." Because I don't know anything.
- 6:20So, for our parents and teachers who are
- 6:23watching this,
- 6:24do we have any parental rights left that
- 6:28are legally protected? How does the
- 6:30hierarchy of all of these things work?
- 6:32>> Yeah, we do. Uh we definitely do. And
- 6:34you're actually correct, Jill, in that
- 6:35the the Constitution um it is recognized
- 6:38to give parents uh to recognize uh
- 6:41fundamental rights of parents over their
- 6:42children. Uh Meyer vs. Nebraska, Pierce
- 6:45vs. Society of Sisters, Wisconsin vs.
- 6:47Yoder. These These are cases that are
- 6:49about 100 years old. Established case
- 6:51law where they recognize that parents
- 6:53have a an inherent fundamental right
- 6:56over the education of their children,
- 6:58the religious moral instruction, the
- 6:59health and welfare of their children,
- 7:01the upbringing of their children.
- 7:02Clearly established. And so, we we have
- 7:05already from the starting gate solid
- 7:08protection in case law
- 7:10from the
- 7:11case law of the Constitution and
- 7:13interpreting uh the Constitution to
- 7:15recognize the rights of parents. So,
- 7:17that's that's the good news.
- 7:18>> Okay.
- 7:18>> And in addition, we have I think
- 7:21probably the most parental rights
- 7:23respective Supreme Court in our history.
- 7:27Thanks to the three Supreme Court
- 7:28Justices appointed by former President
- 7:31Donald Trump. Politics aside, um
- 7:34irrespective of how people are deciding
- 7:36they want to vote in November,
- 7:38I cannot uh
- 7:39even talk about this without giving him
- 7:42accolades of thanks and appreciation
- 7:45for the kind of judges we have which
- 7:47give parents a fighting chance in the
- 7:49United States today when it comes to
- 7:51challenges over their children.
- 7:53>> So then I have to ask, my next question
- 7:56is if these rights are already
- 7:58protected, then how are states like
- 8:01California getting away with passing
- 8:03things like AB 1955 that prohibits
- 8:06teachers from informing parents if their
- 8:08child requests a pronoun or a restroom
- 8:11change at school?
- 8:12>> Well, first off California um has a
- 8:14reputation of passing laws that are
- 8:16unconstitutional.
- 8:17>> Okay, not surprising.
- 8:19>> Yeah, we've had to take them to the
- 8:20Supreme Court more than once uh to get
- 8:23state laws struck down as
- 8:24unconstitutional or our governor edicts
- 8:27struck down. Uh we've had to do that
- 8:29when they shut down all the churches and
- 8:30synagogues, we had to go to Supreme
- 8:32Court uh to give an order
- 8:35to order the churches and synagogues be
- 8:37opened up again. Uh when the state told
- 8:39pro-life clinics that they had to have a
- 8:41large sign in the waiting room telling
- 8:43women where they can get a free or
- 8:44low-cost abortion,
- 8:46we took that Supreme Court, others filed
- 8:48suit afterwards, Supreme Court struck
- 8:50that down. So, that's one thing we need
- 8:52to understand. Just because it becomes
- 8:53law in California
- 8:55doesn't mean they really thought about
- 8:57it. Doesn't mean if that they really uh
- 9:00took the Constitution seriously. Uh
- 9:02they're very radical, very leftist uh in
- 9:05Sacramento. So, we have to challenge
- 9:07this. We're already challenging
- 9:09something similar to that in uh New
- 9:10Jersey out of our Trenton, New Jersey
- 9:12office. The Attorney General of New
- 9:14Jersey, Jill,
- 9:15he came out and said
- 9:18said teachers, all public school
- 9:19teachers,
- 9:21must use pronouns that affirm a child's
- 9:25gender confusion uh irrespective of the
- 9:28conscience of the teacher. Now, what
- 9:30teacher with any kind of love for
- 9:32children is going to want to knowingly
- 9:34encourage confusion in any child, much
- 9:37less confusion that statistically we now
- 9:40know results in a suicide rate 12 times
- 9:44greater than the average child. No
- 9:46reasonable teacher would want to do
- 9:47that. But the Attorney General goes
- 9:48farther and says, "Not only that,
- 9:51but teachers, you have to be willing to
- 9:53lie to parents, cover up
- 9:56if a child has gender confusion. If a If
- 9:58a parent asks you, lie."
- 10:00Uh even if you're using a different name
- 10:02for the child, when it's uh time for
- 10:04open house and parents are there,
- 10:07you know, use the child's name that the
- 10:08parents call the child,
- 10:10but otherwise,
- 10:11use the other name and lie to parents,
- 10:13cover it up, hide it.
- 10:15This is an egregious violation of
- 10:17parental rights.
- 10:18Uh when a school district deliberately
- 10:21and knowingly hides information, and
- 10:23they have no basis to do so.
- 10:26I once talked to a a principal of a high
- 10:28school here in Southern California. I'll
- 10:30keep it that generic.
- 10:32Uh he told me, he says, "Well, you know,
- 10:34the policy of the state is that you
- 10:36know, we have to have the school
- 10:38counselor help uh the child uh you know,
- 10:41to affirm affirm the child's gender
- 10:43confusion." And I said, "What about the
- 10:45parents?" He says, "Well, we keep the
- 10:46parents out of it." I says, "Why?" He
- 10:49says, "Well, you know, the parents may
- 10:50not understand and they may be hostile.
- 10:53They They may be violent or dangerous to
- 10:55students." I said, "What And what do you
- 10:56base this on?" "Well, what the what the
- 10:57the teenager tells us."
- 10:59>> Mhm. Right.
- 11:00>> So,
- 11:01you know, we've had teen I've had
- 11:02teenagers, you know.
- 11:03>> Right.
- 11:03>> This is insane. And so, parents need to
- 11:07know what their rights are because we
- 11:09cannot trust public schools, the
- 11:11principals,
- 11:12uh even the teachers as a general rule.
- 11:15>> So, say uh it
- 11:17obviously this this law is is now going
- 11:19into effect in California to keep
- 11:21secrets from parents, to require that
- 11:23teachers keep secrets from parents. Say
- 11:26that there's a teacher who doesn't
- 11:27believe in any of this and says, "Well,
- 11:29I'm not going to do any of this. I am
- 11:31going to do what is right and true, yet
- 11:34that teacher fears that they will lose
- 11:37their job. So, is there
- 11:40Is there validity in that? I mean, can't
- 11:43I'm I'm I'm assuming that the school can
- 11:44in fact fire the teacher.
- 11:47>> Well, they can, but they're going to be
- 11:48sued by Pacific Justice Institute
- 11:50probably. Cuz that's
- 11:51Cuz that's exactly what we've done. Now,
- 11:54what we would encourage teachers to do
- 11:56in those circumstances, and
- 11:57unfortunately it's not a hypothetical,
- 11:58it's it's very real and it's it's
- 12:00becoming more and more rampant across
- 12:02the country, particularly in blue states
- 12:04unfortunately.
- 12:05Uh we advised teachers to first in
- 12:09writing
- 12:10let the school district know, the
- 12:11principal know, if if they're confronted
- 12:13with doing something that violates their
- 12:14conscience like affirming a pronoun or
- 12:16something like that.
- 12:17Say, I have sincere religious beliefs
- 12:19and convictions against doing this.
- 12:22Um site Bible verses, always site Bible
- 12:24verses. Uh that's like an ironclad
- 12:26guarantee. It's like kryptonite against
- 12:28the other side. They cannot uh
- 12:30in any way
- 12:32debate your sincerity of religious
- 12:33beliefs when you site scriptures as a
- 12:34general rule.
- 12:36Site that, explain that, and then also
- 12:38say how I would be willing to to meet
- 12:41with you to talk about how we can
- 12:42mitigate and work this out uh for for
- 12:45the benefit of all concerned.
- 12:47So, that's one way of dealing with it.
- 12:49And then under Title VII, they're
- 12:50required to meet with the teacher and
- 12:52try to work it out. Like for example, we
- 12:53encourage teachers, this is what we've
- 12:55done before, to say, look, offer to
- 12:58to not use um
- 13:00first names.
- 13:02Uh to say the child says, I assist you
- 13:03use the alternative gender name.
- 13:06Instead, say, you know what? Kids,
- 13:09uh in the real world, you're often
- 13:10referred to as your last name. I'm going
- 13:11to do something different. I'm going to
- 13:13refer all of you to your last by your
- 13:14last name.
- 13:16That's mitigating. Um but unfortunately
- 13:19these left-wing zealous teachers unions
- 13:21and a lot of school districts say, oh
- 13:22no, no. You must say the first name of
- 13:25the child. There's no room here for for
- 13:27tolerance or mitigation of your
- 13:28religious beliefs.
- 13:30Um that just makes the case all the
- 13:31better for the teacher and for us to
- 13:33represent them.
- 13:34>> Yeah, because at what point does a
- 13:35directive like that
- 13:38at what point is it considered compelled
- 13:40speech? I mean, aren't we you know, as
- 13:41Americans aren't we against compelled
- 13:43speech? Or are we is that out the window
- 13:46now?
- 13:47>> Yeah, you know, that is exactly what it
- 13:49is. It's compelled speech. Uh in
- 13:51addition
- 13:52parents uh they don't they generally
- 13:54want to know what's going on.
- 13:56So, if you have a friendly school
- 13:57district
- 13:58uh that school district can uh you know,
- 14:01teachers uh can uh allow parents uh to
- 14:04have information.
- 14:06Uh they can't have a policy as a school
- 14:08board under 1955
- 14:10uh saying uh you know, teachers cannot
- 14:13hide things from parents. They can't put
- 14:15that edict down. They have to give the
- 14:16teacher the ability to lie to parents
- 14:19and hide things from parents.
- 14:21And they have that teacher will have
- 14:22total immunity. However, school
- 14:25districts can allow teachers to be
- 14:27honest with parents. Uh that's still a
- 14:29possibility.
- 14:30So, teachers who are reasonable
- 14:34uh they can go out of their way and say
- 14:35to the child, "You know what? Um
- 14:38before I you know, refer to that, um I'm
- 14:40going to need to talk to your parents
- 14:41and see if that's what they prefer for
- 14:43you. Um in addition,
- 14:45um you know, we we you can have a policy
- 14:48that you know, says uh look, I I call
- 14:50you by how you're registered. So, if you
- 14:52or your parents want to re-register you
- 14:54with this different name um perhaps uh
- 14:57showing your a new birth certificate,
- 14:58changed birth certificate with your
- 15:00name, I'll totally respect that, but I I
- 15:02legally have to to go by the name that
- 15:04I'm given here by the school district.
- 15:07And so, therefore, I'll be happy to work
- 15:08with your parents." Some school
- 15:10districts will be amiable to that and
- 15:12work with teachers, others
- 15:14will not, like the LA Unified, the San
- 15:16Francisco Unified. And uh we we stand
- 15:18ready to to go to bat for teachers for
- 15:20those school districts not willing to to
- 15:22compromise and be accommodating towards
- 15:24uh teachers not wanting to be compelled
- 15:26to say something that violates our
- 15:28conscience and what they believe.
- 15:29>> What is your response to parents and
- 15:33teachers for that matter across the
- 15:35country outside of California that say,
- 15:38"Oh, no, that's happening in California
- 15:42and in New York. That's not happening
- 15:44here in Kansas or Wyoming or Georgia or
- 15:47any place."
- 15:48>> Yeah, the sad truth is that's how a lot
- 15:51of parents are thinking. In fact, a lot
- 15:52of people are moving to states like
- 15:54Texas and Florida and Tennessee saying,
- 15:56"Oh, we're safe."
- 15:58No, they're not safe. Uh the Nashville
- 16:01City of Nashville School District
- 16:03Dallas, Austin
- 16:05Houston Uh these are school districts
- 16:08that uh are very problematic. Um they're
- 16:12dominated by the uh Board of Education.
- 16:14They are the the school boards are
- 16:15dominated by teacher union puppets, not
- 16:18people who are put there by parents, but
- 16:20by the teachers union. Teachers union is
- 16:23not just liberal, they're leftist.
- 16:25And they're putting in all kinds of
- 16:27horrific indoctrination material. Fort
- 16:30Worth People say, "Well, Fort Worth,
- 16:32that's a that's a conservative city, one
- 16:34of the most conservative large cities in
- 16:35the country." Really? Well, their school
- 16:37district adopted some of the same
- 16:40radical LGBTQ curriculum material that
- 16:43is being pushed here in California.
- 16:46Parents can take nothing for granted.
- 16:47Just cuz they live in a red state
- 16:49doesn't mean they're safe. Just because
- 16:51they live in a small town doesn't mean
- 16:53there's not going to be a teacher there
- 16:55uh that's that's going rogue even from
- 16:57the overall uh
- 16:59direction of the school board or the
- 17:01superintendent.
- 17:01>> Sure. I'm curious if you can offer
- 17:05insight about what education codes are.
- 17:09Every state has a different set of ed
- 17:12codes, as we say. And and I've gone
- 17:14through California's ed code, and I've
- 17:16looked at all of the things it outlines
- 17:18about what kinds of rights I have as a
- 17:20parent and I think, "Oh, this is fine.
- 17:23The California Ed Code says that I have
- 17:25a right to be involved in policy at the
- 17:28school and it says I have a right to uh
- 17:30you know, volunteer at the school." But
- 17:32but do those Ed Codes have any meaning
- 17:35left when laws and directives are
- 17:36passed?
- 17:37>> Yeah, I generally speaking they do have
- 17:40meaning. Now, they can be a they can be
- 17:41a law passed that um
- 17:44that actually maybe truncates part of an
- 17:46education code
- 17:48and uh and that has to that's that's
- 17:50what new laws do sometimes. But the
- 17:52reality is there's there's so many
- 17:54education codes in California
- 17:56uh that you almost have to be an expert
- 17:59in education code law in California. In
- 18:02fact, the state overall has four times
- 18:05the volume of regulation than the state
- 18:08of Texas.
- 18:09Uh so, it's it's very bureaucratic and
- 18:12and very regulatory.
- 18:13Uh the good news is that parents do have
- 18:16rights
- 18:17uh in the state of California. Students
- 18:20actually have more rights in California
- 18:23because of the education code than
- 18:25students actually in other states when
- 18:27it comes to issues of free speech and
- 18:29expression, for example. So, it's a it's
- 18:31really interesting. Now, these laws were
- 18:32passed during the you know, the the
- 18:35Vietnam War protests in the '60s. So,
- 18:37the intent was to push the left and and
- 18:39liberal thought but we're using it to
- 18:42help students today who are standing up
- 18:44uh for their beliefs and convictions and
- 18:46we're seeing fantastic victories uh
- 18:48because of the education because we have
- 18:50people who need to know what their
- 18:50rights are. Some great information we
- 18:53have on our website is a book my wife
- 18:55and I wrote called Reclaim Your School.
- 18:58Steps to practically legally evangelize
- 19:00your school. It talks what parents can
- 19:02do, teachers, students uh
- 19:04you know, uh school board members and uh
- 19:07we have model policies for school boards
- 19:09and it's a A of it is using
- 19:11uh education codes,
- 19:13uh but it's something that's applicable
- 19:14really to everyone in the country and
- 19:16it's they can download it for free on
- 19:18from our website pji.org.
- 19:22>> Good to know. Something else that's on
- 19:24your website. I want to talk a little
- 19:26bit about these opt-out forms that so
- 19:29many of us are just obsessed with if
- 19:31there is age inappropriate sex education
- 19:34happening at school or even some of some
- 19:36of these social emotional learning
- 19:38surveys that are given to kids that
- 19:40really mine sensitive information. I at
- 19:43one time when my kids were in public
- 19:45school, I was obsessed with opting out.
- 19:47I would tell everyone opt out opt out
- 19:49and you say that opt-outs in every state
- 19:53are different, but you have something
- 19:56that is applicable to everyone on your
- 19:59website. Can you describe?
- 20:00>> Yes. So people can go to our website and
- 20:03we have a we have opt-out forms
- 20:05customized for 41 states. I like to be
- 20:08able to say 50.
- 20:10We're not 50 yet. But
- 20:12>> be soon.
- 20:12>> Yes. There's some states out there that
- 20:14we don't have yet and but with they're
- 20:17usually states where very few people
- 20:19live relatively speaking. So
- 20:21we have these and they're customized for
- 20:24each state and I people say, "What do
- 20:25you mean by customized? I got this
- 20:27generic one. Why isn't that one good?"
- 20:29Well, that's great because it's you
- 20:31know, it's looking at federal law and
- 20:32what are parents' rights under federal
- 20:34law and there are some statutory rights
- 20:36for parents. However, that's only
- 20:39halfway. Um the rest is looking at the
- 20:43state laws
- 20:44and the the the specific rights given by
- 20:47state legislatures.
- 20:49Some states give more protection to
- 20:50parents like Oklahoma.
- 20:52Um some states give a lot less
- 20:55protections like California.
- 20:57But there are still specific
- 20:59protections.
- 21:01We did our homework. We honed in on
- 21:03specific protections. We added that with
- 21:05the federal law protections and of
- 21:07course constitutional case law
- 21:09protections,
- 21:10and we customize these opt-out forms
- 21:12that are very easy to use. There's boxes
- 21:15just to check.
- 21:17And uh I do want to give one qualifier,
- 21:19and that is like, for example, in
- 21:20California,
- 21:21we used to have more protections than we
- 21:23used to, but Governor Gray Davis, right
- 21:24before he was impeached, out of
- 21:26desperation signed radical bills
- 21:29truncating a number of rights of
- 21:30parents. It's a shame.
- 21:32Uh so, parents can opt our children in
- 21:35in the state of California out of sex
- 21:37ed.
- 21:38Clearly, they can do that.
- 21:40However,
- 21:42that they cannot opt their children out
- 21:44of LGBTQ
- 21:47propaganda.
- 21:48>> And what's the
- 21:49that how
- 21:50what
- 21:51What's the difference? Yeah, what's the
- 21:52difference?
- 21:53>> So, sex ed is uh where do babies come
- 21:55from?
- 21:56>> Right.
- 21:57>> And that is very narrow.
- 22:00Uh as far as LGBTQ, that's to do with
- 22:03lifestyles. And
- 22:05>> But why can't we opt out of that portion
- 22:08as well if we don't deem that our
- 22:09children are old enough or mature enough
- 22:11to understand that?
- 22:12>> Because California education codes do
- 22:15not allow for any opt-out for that. Now,
- 22:18that said,
- 22:20um there are a few left and right turns
- 22:22that we can take at PJI. Uh for example,
- 22:25if parents say, "I can't pull my kids
- 22:28out of the public school,"
- 22:29um
- 22:31in certain circumstances, we can say,
- 22:32"You know what? If we get a letter from
- 22:34a psychiatrist
- 22:35and says, 'This such instruction uh will
- 22:39be can be very harmful and traumatic to
- 22:41this child, creating tremendous injury
- 22:44to them mentally and emotionally,'
- 22:46putting them on front notice.
- 22:48>> Wow.
- 22:49>> That's a different ball game. A tort
- 22:50lawyer would love to take something like
- 22:52that. If the school district district
- 22:54says, "We don't care. We're going to
- 22:56expose a child. We don't care about
- 22:57their background. We don't care about a
- 22:59psychiatrist and what they say." That's
- 23:02That is one weapon using tort law
- 23:05uh to go after a school district. Um but
- 23:08parents need also realize
- 23:10they say, well, I've opted my child out
- 23:12of I let my child stay home sick
- 23:14uh for this day. We found out that this
- 23:17uh these uh two transgender individuals
- 23:19are going to come and flaunt what they
- 23:20do and try to convince kids that they
- 23:22may be the opposite of what they're born
- 23:24with. Um I'm opting my child out of that
- 23:26day by just having them call in sick and
- 23:28then give us a notice. And there's a way
- 23:30you can do that, uh certain language you
- 23:32want to put in.
- 23:33Um however, the problem is
- 23:36in in places like California, it's not
- 23:38just one visit. It's not just one day.
- 23:41It's all throughout the school.
- 23:43State law requires this at every grade
- 23:46level all the way down to kindergarten,
- 23:47LGBTQ propaganda material. Uh and and
- 23:51it's it's it's so unbelievable. So
- 23:54parents need to understand if they have
- 23:55their child in a public school
- 23:57there are some opt-out measures they can
- 23:58take. But some states like California um
- 24:02children are still left uh to in what I
- 24:06call a spiritual death camp. They're and
- 24:09it's very very dangerous.
- 24:11>> You have done a lot of work with helping
- 24:15parents with children in public schools
- 24:18uh establish alternative educational
- 24:22uh institutions. Can you describe that?
- 24:25>> Oh, you bet. So
- 24:27a lot of parents are pulling their kids
- 24:29out of public schools. This last school
- 24:30year more than 50,000 children were
- 24:33pulled from the LA Unified School
- 24:35District alone.
- 24:36>> Wow.
- 24:36>> Uh there's a lot of angry parents out
- 24:38there.
- 24:38So they're pulling their kids out. Now
- 24:39here's the problem. They say, well, I'll
- 24:41put my child in a solid uh you know
- 24:45private school reflective of my faith.
- 24:48Well, most of those schools, in fact
- 24:49almost all of them have waiting lists.
- 24:52And a lot of it's because of the
- 24:53pandemic.
- 24:54And we helped a lot of the private
- 24:55schools open up a lot earlier despite
- 24:58the shutdowns and especially in blue
- 25:00states. It was fantastic, but these
- 25:02schools have been over well with kids
- 25:04coming into them more than they can
- 25:05expand to accommodate. So, then you have
- 25:08parents who say, "Okay, well, then what
- 25:09about homeschooling?"
- 25:10Well, the hardcore reality reality is
- 25:13um a lot of families for a lot of
- 25:15families it doesn't make sense. They
- 25:16can't do it. Maybe their language is
- 25:18different than English and they know
- 25:19their child needs English immersion. Um
- 25:22maybe they're a one-parent family and
- 25:24that one parent has to work. Or they're
- 25:26a two-parent family and both of those
- 25:28parents work because they live in places
- 25:30like
- 25:31California or, you know, Manhattan and
- 25:34some of these places that it's just very
- 25:35expensive to to live.
- 25:37So, what do they do?
- 25:39You know, those that cannot homeschool
- 25:41on their own.
- 25:42Uh what they can do is be a part of what
- 25:44we're helping to start across the
- 25:46country and along with others, which are
- 25:49uh homeschool co-ops. Uh generally
- 25:52there's they can be sponsored by a
- 25:53synagogue, by a church.
- 25:56And it could be a tiny little church.
- 25:58They can start a a church homeschool
- 25:59co-op.
- 26:01It's it's easy. Um it's not a private
- 26:03school.
- 26:04Um they have a lot more freedom.
- 26:07These are parents working together
- 26:09and uh maybe uh elderly people in the
- 26:11church volunteering to provide uh a an
- 26:14environment where the child can have an
- 26:15education in a homeschool kind of
- 26:17format. There's a multiple different
- 26:19models, by the way.
- 26:21>> And do we Do you need an attorney to be
- 26:22able to do that?
- 26:23>> No, not at all. And in fact, we at
- 26:25Pacific Justice do we can direct people
- 26:28to where they can find out information
- 26:29on the different alternative models that
- 26:32they can set up at their local church or
- 26:34synagogue.
- 26:36Uh these are booming across the country
- 26:38and they are
- 26:39they're the answer, I believe, to saving
- 26:41a lot of children, particularly if
- 26:43they're in a state that doesn't have
- 26:44school choice or school vouchers. Most
- 26:47blue states don't. And uh this is the
- 26:50the back door that's still there to be
- 26:52taken advantage of.
- 26:53>> Well, absolutely. There's there's
- 26:56there's endless possibilities now
- 26:57because the mandates, I say {quotation
- 27:01marks} the the mandates that were
- 27:03imposed on so many of us, whether it was
- 27:05for masks or
- 27:08COVID vaccine mandates, I mean they
- 27:10scared a lot of people. And so a lot of
- 27:12people said, "I have to get out of this
- 27:14system." For the people that let's just
- 27:17say were stuck in that system,
- 27:21what recourse, if any, do they have
- 27:24against mandates that the same kinds
- 27:27that were imposed on us?
- 27:29>> Yes, especially during the the pandemic.
- 27:31Well, we at Pacific Justice Institute,
- 27:33we did a lot of suing during that period
- 27:35of time. So
- 27:36>> Which is so quite frankly, it's very
- 27:38scary for some of us to hear, "Oh, well,
- 27:41we have to sue people. We have to sue."
- 27:42But but this is the avenue, right?
- 27:44>> they just contact us. We pick up all the
- 27:47costs, all the expenses.
- 27:48Uh we do that.
- 27:50>> I don't mean to laugh, but it's I mean
- 27:51it's it's insane that the gymnastics
- 27:54that we have to do now.
- 27:55>> It really is. And
- 27:57it's because we really don't have local
- 27:59schools anymore.
- 28:00>> Mhm.
- 28:00>> They're teacher union state driven
- 28:04uh you know, institutions or government
- 28:06schools, not really public schools. So,
- 28:09let me give you an example. Contra Costa
- 28:11uh school district in the San Francisco
- 28:12Bay Area,
- 28:13they came out with an order ordering all
- 28:15children, elementary school children,
- 28:17all of them had to have the
- 28:19controversial COVID-19 {quote unquote}
- 28:21vax.
- 28:23That was it. No exemptions, no opt-out
- 28:25at all.
- 28:26We went it right into court.
- 28:28And before one child had the injection,
- 28:32we got it halted. And we saved every one
- 28:35of those children from having the
- 28:36injection. Of course, now unfortunately,
- 28:38you know, medically
- 28:40that the ramifications to a lot of
- 28:41children, it's it's very very uh
- 28:43serious.
- 28:44Uh from those aged 12 to 19, there's
- 28:46been a more than 13,000 percent increase
- 28:49in heart myocarditis. And we see that
- 28:52with children dropping dead on the
- 28:53soccer field, etc.
- 28:54It's tragic. We were able to save a lot
- 28:57of children just that one school
- 28:59district. Go to the other part of the
- 29:00country, West Palm Beach.
- 29:02They said, "Every child must wear a mask
- 29:05no matter what, no opt-outs."
- 29:08We went right into court on behalf of
- 29:0911,000 angry parents.
- 29:12And we said, "No, you cannot mandate
- 29:14this against these parents." Make a long
- 29:15story short, we prevailed.
- 29:18And we have some very happy parents in
- 29:19West Palm Beach. But we've taken all
- 29:21these cases all over the country. The
- 29:22fact is, just because there's a mandate
- 29:25doesn't mean it's lawful. And doesn't
- 29:27mean we can't challenge it based on
- 29:29parental rights.
- 29:30>> I have to ask this question because I I
- 29:33often say personally one of the reasons
- 29:36why we've gotten to this place is
- 29:39because my generation somehow missed a
- 29:45breadth of education regarding civics.
- 29:49And do you disagree or you agree?
- 29:52>> Yeah, I I I agree. As far as public
- 29:55education goes, I believe they missed
- 29:57out on everything.
- 29:59As a general rule. As a general rule.
- 30:02Mind you, there are some public schools
- 30:03that are are excelling in some areas.
- 30:06But they're the the small tiny minority
- 30:09compared to what we're getting in public
- 30:11schools. And public civics civics is one
- 30:14of those subjects that
- 30:16are I don't think they really taught
- 30:18students to really empower students.
- 30:20A lot of it frankly is is filled with
- 30:23political propaganda.
- 30:24And same thing with history and even
- 30:27English literature.
- 30:28It's public schools are not the same.
- 30:31Parents need to understand that. And
- 30:33they need to know what their rights are.
- 30:35Parents need to be aware. It doesn't
- 30:36matter where they live, it doesn't
- 30:37matter how conservative, how many
- 30:39churches or synagogues are in the in the
- 30:41area,
- 30:42they need to go into their library and
- 30:44they have every right to do so in that
- 30:46public school library, say, "I want to
- 30:48look at all the books addressing uh
- 30:50LGBTQ issues, sex issues, sexuality
- 30:54issues,
- 30:55um politics, I want to look at all of
- 30:57it, philosophy, all of it."
- 30:59And then that parent has a right to take
- 31:01note of it and write an op-ed piece
- 31:04letting people know. There's a bus
- 31:06driver in Idaho.
- 31:07Idaho, you think what's going to happen
- 31:08in Idaho, right?
- 31:10He found out in the public library all
- 31:12the stuff was in there.
- 31:14The principal would do nothing, the
- 31:15superintendent would do nothing. He
- 31:17wrote an op-ed piece exposing all of it.
- 31:20He was fired from his job because he
- 31:23said something negative about the school
- 31:24district. Well, this isn't China. You
- 31:27don't surrender your First Amendment
- 31:28rights when you work for the government.
- 31:30We went to court, we filed our lawsuit,
- 31:33and needless to say, uh it ended in a
- 31:34very nice settlement for him that
- 31:37hopefully other school districts will
- 31:38learn from.
- 31:39>> So, one question when you mention the
- 31:41settlement, because in Southern
- 31:43California not too long ago, I'm sure
- 31:45you heard the story about the high
- 31:47school PE teacher Jessica Tapia who won
- 31:49the settlement against her school
- 31:52district who who fired her for sharing
- 31:54her religious beliefs on her own time.
- 31:56For all of these people who are bringing
- 31:58legal action and are winning with
- 32:01settlements, does that then set a
- 32:03precedent so that these other school
- 32:05districts can't do the same thing to
- 32:07others?
- 32:08>> Yeah, that's the downside on a
- 32:09settlement versus a a judgment.
- 32:11>> Oh.
- 32:12>> Um a settlement uh is not is not a
- 32:15binding precedent. However,
- 32:17school districts and others, they do
- 32:19listen and they they watch. And even if
- 32:21they can't disclose the amount, the
- 32:23monetary amount,
- 32:25um they know
- 32:27often times that it's significant
- 32:29and especially when the plaintiff is
- 32:32very happy,
- 32:34um they know that that school district
- 32:36lost uh in the settlement and uh and
- 32:39they learned from it. So, practically
- 32:41speaking, there's a big lesson learned
- 32:43in the process.
- 32:44As far as precedent, those settlements
- 32:46really do not provide any precedent.
- 32:48>> I see. And here I thought they did. I'm
- 32:51happy to hear your response, but then I
- 32:52also think, "Oh, okay, we got to win
- 32:54these cases."
- 32:55>> [laughter]
- 32:55>> Yeah, and some people some parents will
- 32:57say,
- 32:58"I don't want to settlement."
- 32:59>> Yeah.
- 33:00>> "I want to win. I want precedent. I want
- 33:02to send a loud message
- 33:04that every judge will have to pay
- 33:06attention to in the future." And that's
- 33:08what we have in terms of precedents,
- 33:10especially in federal court cases. If
- 33:13you win in a federal district court
- 33:15anywhere in the country,
- 33:16it may not be binding on all the judges
- 33:18across the country, but every
- 33:20federal judge must take that decision
- 33:23into consideration before making their
- 33:25decision in a similar case.
- 33:27So, it's very, very powerful.
- 33:29>> What is your response to parents
- 33:33who might find themselves in a situation
- 33:36where
- 33:37compelled speech was imposed on them or
- 33:39they were obeying mandates that they
- 33:42didn't agree with
- 33:43who might just say, "I don't have the
- 33:46energy to fight. It's fine. What
- 33:49difference does it make?"
- 33:51>> Their silence makes a huge difference.
- 33:53Because you're allowing that tyranny to
- 33:56happen again and again and again. But
- 33:58when they stand up
- 34:00and there's a resistance, that sends
- 34:02ripples across the country. It sends a
- 34:04message to the other side,
- 34:06"You can't do this and think you're
- 34:07going to get away with it."
- 34:09You know, we at Pacific Justice
- 34:10Institute, we have offices across the
- 34:11nation uniquely for a reason.
- 34:13That reason is I want Satan to have no
- 34:15place to go for vacation in the United
- 34:17States of America.
- 34:19And we intend that we stand ready to go
- 34:21against any school board, any school
- 34:23district
- 34:24anywhere in the country
- 34:26that decides to step on the rights of
- 34:28parents. We're there. We're committed
- 34:31unconditionally to represent parents
- 34:32without charge.
- 34:34>> I have a I want to take a turn for a
- 34:37little bit here.
- 34:38One nation under God indivisible.
- 34:41A lot of teachers and schools and
- 34:44administrators have just airlifted the
- 34:46Pledge of Allegiance out of classrooms
- 34:47because they don't want to offend
- 34:51teachers and families in any way. Is the
- 34:54removal of the Pledge of Allegiance
- 34:56because of that phrase an attack on
- 34:58religious freedom?
- 34:59>> It's interesting. So, uh the the phrase
- 35:03In God We Trust, uh we defended that and
- 35:06we had the Ninth Circuit to rule that
- 35:08that is constitutional. Our national
- 35:11motto is constitutional. And that was a
- 35:13fantastic victory in this deal with the
- 35:15state of California and some people who
- 35:17wanted to to pull that from our our
- 35:19currency. In the same way, uh our Pledge
- 35:22of Allegiance is constitutional.
- 35:25Um you can have one nation under God
- 35:27that is constitutional. Um that's
- 35:30that's that's clearly established. So,
- 35:33schools cannot justify removing it
- 35:35because it's on somehow a violation of
- 35:36separation of church and state. Uh
- 35:38that's that's bogus.
- 35:40Um and in fact, uh many states require
- 35:45uh school districts to say the Pledge of
- 35:48Allegiance. So, all the classrooms must
- 35:50say the Pledge of Allegiance. Um that's
- 35:52becoming actually more common. And
- 35:54schools that don't do that,
- 35:56um those parents should contact us and
- 35:59we'd be happy to go to bat for them to
- 36:01make sure that the law is complied with.
- 36:03>> So, generally speaking, let's just play
- 36:05a game. If I were to walk to my local
- 36:07public school and place the Ten
- 36:10Commandments on the wall, could I get
- 36:13arrested?
- 36:14>> Uh
- 36:15It depends on what state you're you're
- 36:17California, possibly.
- 36:19>> Probably.
- 36:19>> Possibly, but I will say and we would
- 36:22would defend that because of the Supreme
- 36:24Court we have now because of President
- 36:26Trump's appointments. Uh things have
- 36:27changed. Um this we have so we have hope
- 36:31that we never thought we would have ever
- 36:33seen in my lifetime come to pass because
- 36:36of those three judicial appointments on
- 36:38the Supreme Court. Uh but if when you
- 36:40look at it for example Louisiana, uh we
- 36:42worked hard
- 36:43uh through our legislative division. We
- 36:45worked hard uh to help them pass a law
- 36:48that uh
- 36:49mandates
- 36:50uh the Ten Commandments to be posted in
- 36:52every single public school classroom
- 36:54including public university classrooms
- 36:57in the state of Louisiana.
- 36:59And 20 years ago I would have thought,
- 37:01"Oh, this is going to get struck down as
- 37:02unconstitutional."
- 37:03But no. The Supreme Court will say, well
- 37:06that the standard they have now is does
- 37:08the state action amount to a
- 37:10proselytizing and endorsement of a
- 37:12particular religion?
- 37:14Well, the answer is no.
- 37:15The Ten Commandments first is recognized
- 37:18not only by Christians and Jews and
- 37:20Muslims. Uh it also is the the
- 37:22foundation by which Western law
- 37:25came into existence.
- 37:27So, this is about history, heritage that
- 37:31children should be able to to know about
- 37:33because they don't know their past,
- 37:35how are they to
- 37:36decipher and decide on the future uh for
- 37:39future generations to come.
- 37:42>> Brad, this conversation has given me so
- 37:44much hope because you know, quite
- 37:47frankly, with all the headlines I see
- 37:50and all the research I do trying to
- 37:52educate myself as a mom, I get
- 37:55pulled down in the dumps a lot, but this
- 37:56is giving me a lot of hope. Are you very
- 37:59hopeful for the next maybe 10 or 20
- 38:02years the direction of education?
- 38:04>> Well,
- 38:05I will say overall I'm I'm hopeful and
- 38:08optimistic because homeschooling is
- 38:10booming, private schools are booming,
- 38:13and uh homeschool consortiums and
- 38:15churches and synagogues
- 38:17that's booming.
- 38:18That's my greatest confidence.
- 38:20Uh I'm also confident in those states
- 38:22that are having uh school choice, school
- 38:24vouchers like Florida, soon to be Texas
- 38:27and other red states are passing it. I'm
- 38:29excited about that, particularly in red
- 38:31states passing laws we were able to get
- 38:33them to pass saying, "Hey, boys can't
- 38:34compete in girl sports." We got six
- 38:36states through our efforts to pass that
- 38:38kind of legislation. So, in red states
- 38:41in particular, I'm very optimistic. Um,
- 38:44in uh the alternative education, I'm
- 38:46very optimistic. Public schools overall,
- 38:50uh I'm very concerned because they're
- 38:52clearly heading in the wrong direction
- 38:54and parents need to to take note of
- 38:55that. But, you know, the the battle is
- 38:57not just in the public schools against
- 38:59parents' rights.
- 39:00It's also outside the public schools
- 39:03with social workers.
- 39:04>> Yes.
- 39:05>> Uh in in unbelievable ways taking
- 39:07children from parents, wonderful
- 39:09parents. They're supposed to take them
- 39:11because the parents are abusive or
- 39:12neglectful, they're not feeding the kids
- 39:14or they're hitting the kids over the
- 39:15head with something. No.
- 39:18They're taking children now because the
- 39:20parents say are traditional in their
- 39:22Jewish or Christian beliefs
- 39:24and not wanting to encourage gender
- 39:26confusion in their children. Because a
- 39:28parent refuses, social workers are
- 39:30coming in and taking children. We've had
- 39:32a case um in uh Placer County,
- 39:34California,
- 39:36uh near Sacramento. Uh they took a girl,
- 39:38she didn't want to be taken. She says,
- 39:40"I feel like I'm a boy." She told her
- 39:42friend who told the teacher told the
- 39:43counselor told the social worker.
- 39:44They took her
- 39:46and had her examined by their in-house
- 39:47shrink psychiatrist. I call him shrink
- 39:50because what he advises "Oh, yes, we
- 39:51need to immediately start the process of
- 39:53changing her quote gender."
- 39:55And they took her from the family and
- 39:57they would have started the process but
- 39:59for the fact the parents called us and
- 40:01we went right into court and we got it
- 40:03halted and we fought for two years for
- 40:05that girl.
- 40:06And at the end of the two years, that
- 40:08girl was reunited with her family and at
- 40:10the last hearing she said, "You know,
- 40:11your honor, also I just want you to know
- 40:14I really don't feel like I'm a boy after
- 40:15all."
- 40:17Had had we not intervened, she would
- 40:18have been permanently sterilized
- 40:21and her suicide risk would have
- 40:22skyrocketed.
- 40:24That is the state of California. That
- 40:26was under the authority of Governor
- 40:27Gavin Newsom in the state of California.
- 40:29And I'd like to say that was one freak
- 40:31isolated case.
- 40:32Oh, no, it's happened in Orange County,
- 40:34San Diego County. It's happening all
- 40:36over the country.
- 40:37And parents need to understand, this is
- 40:40the agenda.
- 40:41The good news
- 40:43is we have a resource
- 40:45that will give parents the protection.
- 40:48Once a child is taken, I give it about a
- 40:5050/50 chance that they're going to get
- 40:52their child back ever.
- 40:54>> Yeah.
- 40:54>> And they're often put in in
- 40:56families and homes that are divergent
- 40:58completely for what they believe is best
- 40:59for their children.
- 41:01The good news, if they follow what we
- 41:03tell them to do,
- 41:04uh the odds are better than 98% that
- 41:07their child will not be taken in the
- 41:09first place. It's very successful.
- 41:12Parents just need to know what to do and
- 41:13what their rights are. So, we have a
- 41:15It's on our website called 12 Steps to
- 41:18Protect Your Children
- 41:20from CPS, Child Protective Services.
- 41:22It's called different things in other
- 41:23states, but 12 Steps to Protect Your
- 41:25Children from CPS.
- 41:26It's applicable to every state in the
- 41:28country.
- 41:29Every family should have this printed
- 41:33out.
- 41:34They should make it available to
- 41:35everyone in their church and synagogue.
- 41:37Um they should put push it out by the
- 41:39email.
- 41:41Um they need to have it on hand because
- 41:42when the social worker calls or they
- 41:44knock on the door,
- 41:46it's too late.
- 41:47That's when the most critical decisions
- 41:49need to be made and that's why we make
- 41:51this available up front. And it's it's
- 41:54something I think every single family I
- 41:56know, not just think, I know every
- 41:57family in America should have a copy of
- 41:59this and it's free on our website.
- 42:02No charge.
- 42:03Uh
- 42:04n- nothing. It's just it's it's right
- 42:06there. We make it very easy on our
- 42:07website pji.org.
- 42:10>> I I have no idea when you and the rest
- 42:14of you at Pacific Justice Institute
- 42:16sleep because you're doing so much and
- 42:18you're doing such great work and I just
- 42:21uh you know, on behalf of the parents
- 42:23and the teachers, everyone who's
- 42:24watching or listening, thank you for
- 42:26doing all of this uh you know, from a
- 42:28from a legal mind because we parents
- 42:31well, I I I know nothing and so I
- 42:32appreciate it when I hear wisdom from
- 42:34you. For people who don't yet follow you
- 42:37on social media, your Instagram handle
- 42:39is Pacific Justice Institute and your
- 42:42website is once again
- 42:44>> is pji.org.
- 42:47P for Pacific, J for Justice, I for
- 42:50Institute.org. We also have a a
- 42:52newsletter once a week talking about our
- 42:53cases. We love people to pray for our
- 42:55work. And uh maybe support our work,
- 42:57too, but it's all right there on our
- 42:59website, pji.org.
- 43:02It's We have a very empowering website
- 43:05and I I we really want to do uh to help
- 43:08people. And also, I just want to say you
- 43:10didn't ask me to say this, but I just
- 43:11want to tell you, Jill, how excited I am
- 43:13about PragerU.
- 43:14>> Oh, thank you.
- 43:15>> Um it's been a blessing to so many young
- 43:18people in my church. Uh they listen to
- 43:21it. They may not listen to their parents
- 43:22all the time, but I know they listen to
- 43:26PragerU.
- 43:27>> Yeah.
- 43:27>> And uh I'm a big fan of of Dennis
- 43:29Prager. He spoke at one of our big
- 43:30galas, our celebration of justice. Uh
- 43:33and uh we uh just it's a it's a joy and
- 43:35privilege to be able to uh participate
- 43:37as we are right now in this program.
- 43:39>> Thank you so much, well, this
- 43:40conversation was long overdue. Brad
- 43:42Dacus, follow him, Pacific Justice
- 43:44Institute. And of course, if you have
- 43:46not yet subscribed to pragerukids.com,
- 43:49parents, teachers, do it now so that we
- 43:51educate our young people so that they
- 43:53can know about civics and our history
- 43:57and our shared values as Americans and
- 43:59they can carry that love of country with
- 44:01them. Also, for more conversations uh
- 44:03discussing parental rights, uh gender
- 44:06ideology in schools, how to audit your
- 44:08school uh your child's school library.
- 44:11We've got all the conversations on
- 44:12prageru.com/parentalert.
- 44:15Brad, thank you so much, and we'll see
- 44:17you all next time.
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