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0:00The wonderful air of my Papa Yahé. He
0:04took me out of darkness, He delivered
0:06me from all sin. I will sing with all
0:12my heart the wonderful air of Papa
0:13Yahé. He told me a little, He
0:18delivered me from everything. I will
0:22sing, I will sing towards a place of my
0:27Papa Yamé. He took me out of darkness.
0:32He delivered me from my Papa. My Papa,
0:35let us be seated please. He never
0:39abandons me. I have nothing left to
0:43fear for there is
0:53>> thank you. To the musical group. Can
0:56you give yourselves an ovation? Applaud
1:00yourselves, yourselves, because you are
1:01the most precious people, the people
1:03for whom and thanks to whom this event
1:05is taking place. Ladies and gentlemen,
1:12distinguished guests, dear partners,
1:14dear facilitators, dear participants,
1:15once again, welcome to this 3rd edition
1:18of the conference on environmental
1:19management and the protection of
1:21creation. And it is for me an immense
1:27joy. a great pleasure to moderate the
1:30very first panel of this conference. So
1:37the pleasure is all mine to thank
1:38Compassion International Togo and the
1:40International Agriculture and Agri-food
1:43Fair of Lomé (SIALO), the 13th edition
1:45during which this event is taking place
1:47. And well, this is the first panel,
1:52ladies and gentlemen. It is this
1:57sub-theme that will fill these 90
1:58minutes of discussion throughout this
2:00panel. Well, I don't want to talk much
2:06because there will be panelists who
2:08will share this theme and who will help
2:10us define the theme, the very essence
2:11of this topic. But well before that, we
2:19start right away with a first screening
2:21because the organization of this
2:23conference has pulled out all the stops
2:25to offer you this time, for this 3rd
2:27edition, a conference, a program, a
2:28major panel. And well, we start right
2:35away with a video, a projection that
2:37comes to us from a panelist, he is not
2:39in the country with us international,
2:45whom I ask you to applaud technical
2:49team, an ovation please, while the
2:51technical team plays his video for us.
2:56>> Dear friends, greetings to you all.
3:00Hello everyone, it is a joy to find you
3:02in Togo. I am speaking to you today
3:06from Argentina and it is powerful. Dear
3:09friends, greetings to you all. Hello
3:13everyone, it is a joy to find you in
3:15Togo. I am speaking to you today from
3:20Argentina and it is wonderful to think
3:22that you are already celebrating your
3:24third conference, I believe, on the
3:26protection of the environment and the
3:28safeguarding of creation. It is still a
3:32fairly recent initiative at Compassion.
3:36We only started 5 years ago. It is
3:41therefore important to take a moment to
3:42reflect. Why did this work begin? What
3:49progress have we made and where are we
3:51going now? For that, Sydney. Mu.
3:59Afterward, I will come back to
4:02elaborate a bit on her remarks. So
4:07quickly Andrew, three things I have
4:09always reflected on when thinking about
4:11this important work. Firstly,
4:16especially when I took over family
4:18leadership. Also, consider the shocks
4:23to household income after a poor
4:25harvest. I have lived through it. You
4:32hope while waiting for a harvest, and
4:34it does not come. In our context, these
4:40situations very surely signal early
4:42marriage and child labor. A bad harvest
4:48has that kind of consequence for us.
4:54The protection failures our model aims
4:56to prevent are therefore very real. For
5:01the global program, taking a stance on
5:06climate was not a choice. It was not an
5:11option. It was simply recognizing that
5:17the environment and climate are already
5:19degrading the results we measure.
5:24Ignoring it would have been reckless.
5:28Finally, Andrew, when I saw the photo
5:30you presented, two words came to me:
5:33present and future. Let’s think about
5:37the horizon of our ministry. When we
5:41register a child today, perhaps at 4
5:43years old, we support them for 15 or 20
5:46years. The environment in which they
5:52will live in 2040 is therefore a
5:54concern for the future, but also for
5:56today. Partner churches, livelihoods,
6:00the sites where we work. We know that
6:06ministries are there, Andrew, we can
6:11refuse to have a position on climate,
6:16but we cannot refuse to be exposed to
6:18it. Not having a position would
6:23therefore make no sense. There you go
6:35Andrew, the three main reasons why this
6:37work seemed so important to me in a
6:39child development context. Personal,
6:44theological reasons linked to
6:45experience and development. In Sydney's
6:51words, you hear the importance of the
6:53foundations of this work. Our faith in
6:57Christ, our responsibility to take care
7:00of God's creation, and our commitment
7:05to helping children thrive. These
7:10foundations matter today more than ever
7:12. As you know, all over the world, the
7:21El Niño climate will likely be the
7:23strongest the world has ever known.
7:28This raises questions. What impact on
7:33food? Will there be enough water? Will
7:41livelihoods remain secure? These are
7:48real challenges for us all, especially
7:50for children and families affected by
7:52poverty and for those who live off
7:54agriculture. Understanding local risks
8:00and preparing early therefore becomes
8:02essential to achieving our goal. Of
8:06course, essential. Partner churches are
8:09best positioned to see how climate
8:11change and environmental degradation
8:13affect their communities. One of our
8:18tools is therefore the survey on the
8:20impact of climate on food, energy, and
8:22water. It is a quick 15-minute survey
8:27that we offer to churches so they can
8:29share what they observe and experience
8:31regarding climate change. It is
8:36important to listen to these voices.
8:39This information then helps us to
8:41respond better. Our third focus is
8:45action. I will briefly state what
8:49Compassion International does before
8:51talking about what you are doing in
8:52Togo. For action, education is an
8:59important gateway. I am not talking
9:03only about technical aspects. We must
9:07also understand the theological and
9:09biblical basis for our commitment to
9:11this challenge. One of the resources
9:17available for Compassion and the
9:18general public is the Lausanne
9:20Movement’s global classroom on
9:22creation care. I strongly encourage you
9:28to use it. It is very well translated
9:33into French, and you can use it with
9:36young people and in your churches. It
9:40is a short series, I don't mean a short
9:42course. 12 videos of 5 to 7 minutes
9:46with leaders from around the world who
9:49are specialists in the subject. I think
9:53it will be of great interest to you.
9:57The other resource we are excited about
9:59is the Creation Story program. It is
10:03now available in the Compassion
10:05intervention guide. It is an
10:09environmental education program for
10:11children built around the creation
10:13narrative, which also integrates
10:15technical and scientific data. It lays
10:20a solid foundation to equip young
10:21people so they are better prepared to
10:23face the effects of climate change.
10:28Above all, I want to celebrate the work
10:33in Togo. I learned recently that your
10:38tree-planting program, which I am
10:40passionate about because I love trees,
10:45has made it possible to plant about
10:4740,000 trees since 2022. This is
10:52already a great achievement. Another
10:55important point, 2 years after planting
11:00, about 70%of these trees have survived
11:06. This is an excellent foundation for
11:11moving forward. Good news, your
11:19training for young people in
11:21agroecology and agribusiness. It has
11:26already reached more than 415 partner
11:29churches on the ground, and nearly
11:335,500 parents and guardians have been
11:36trained. We will soon see the fruits of
11:38this, and I think that other countries
11:43will follow this model. These are
11:46wonderful successes, and I really want
11:50to celebrate them. To conclude, I
11:55return to Sydney's remarks. For the
12:00future, we must strengthen the links
12:04between policy, data, and action, while
12:09remaining anchored in a solid biblical
12:11foundation. I want to remind us of
12:15Psalm 24: 1. The earth belongs to the
12:20Lord with everything it contains. The
12:23world and all those who inhabit it. The
12:27earth, the water, and the people whose
12:30lives depend on them, all belong to God
12:32. Caring for His creation and caring
12:37for children are therefore, for us
12:39Christians, two linked responsibilities
12:41. I leave you with this thought. Thank
12:45you again for this opportunity. Amen.
12:47>> May God bless you. The earth, the water
13:00, and the people whose lives depend on
13:02them, all belong to God. Caring for His
13:07creation and caring for children are
13:09therefore, for us Christians, two
13:11linked responsibilities. I leave you
13:15with this thought. Thank you again for
13:17this opportunity. May God bless you.
13:39The issue of environmental protection
13:40is so important to Compassion
13:42International, which is why by taking
13:44care of the environment, the children
13:45in our care will also benefit in the
13:47years to come. Well, that was one of
13:54the panelists on this panel, if I may
13:56put it that way. We are now going to
14:00welcome the other panelists, ladies and
14:01gentlemen, because I will not be the
14:03only one speaking for over 90 minutes
14:05here. So, the second panelist who will
14:10join me on this stage is a specialist
14:12in food security and livelihoods. In
14:18the national director of Compassion's
14:20address, he specified that Compassion
14:22takes care of over 93,000 children and
14:25the food security of these 93,000
14:26children rests on his shoulders. So,
14:29understand that he has a very great
14:31responsibility. Please welcome Mr.
14:34Eugène Sanda. No, no, I hope you have
14:39—you must applaud well for the
14:41enormous work he is doing. He is the
14:45one who takes care of our stomachs and
14:47the stomachs of the children. Welcome,
14:50Mr. Eugène Sanda. Now, the next
14:54panelist, he is the training manager at
14:56Compassion International Togo. Please
15:00welcome, ladies and gentlemen, with
15:03hearty applause, Paul Gaglo. Paul Gaglo
15:07, he is the training manager at
15:09Compassion International Togo. And the
15:16one I am about to announce, from Monday
15:19to Saturday, he works in the fields;
15:20meaning, he is a man of God, but apart
15:22from holding the microphone and
15:24preaching the word of God on Sunday,
15:26his whole life is in the fields. He
15:31cultivates the land, but while
15:33preserving that land, he practices
15:35agroecology. Ladies and gentlemen,
15:38receive with all honors. He is the only
15:41man of God on this panel, the Reverend
15:43Pastor Emmanuel Maikou, whom I am very
15:45fond of. A very, very pragmatic man of
15:49God. What he teaches, he also practices
15:53. There. Myself, Poro Kaka, as
16:03moderator. There. Protection and policy
16:14development for children and youth.
16:16That is the. On the panel of the GP
16:21conference. So, gentlemen, you are
16:28welcome. to have you and when a
16:41question was asked on how to ensure and
16:43succeed in this moderation, many
16:45families rely on agriculture for their
16:47food and income. However, these
16:54families are affected by climate change
16:56and the degradation of their
16:57environment. These difficulties also
17:03affect children and youth through their
17:05nutrition, their health, their
17:06education, and their prospects. In this
17:13context, protecting creation is
17:15therefore an environmental, social, and
17:17spiritual responsibility. Ladies and
17:24gentlemen, distinguished guests, dear
17:26facilitators, dear leaders, this panel
17:28will highlight the links between
17:30climate, family livelihoods, holistic
17:32child development, and the
17:34responsibility of churches. That is the
17:39setting for this panel. As people often
17:42say, blessed are those who sit at the
17:44right hand of the father. So, he is
17:46also one of the senior members at
17:48Compassion, Mr. Eugène Sanda. The very
17:51first question of this panel will be
17:52addressed to you. What are the main
17:56links between climate change and
17:57holistic child development according to
17:59Compassion Togo and its partners?
18:07>> So it's good.
18:12>> Thank you, uh, thank you Diama for the
18:16introduction and for setting the stage.
18:22Uh, as he said, I am Eugène Mana, I
18:24handle everything concerning food
18:26security, livelihoods, and the
18:28environmental component as well. Uh, I
18:34take it very seriously. So, to answer
18:39the question, allow me to read you
18:41something we have here. It was in 2022
18:47when Compassion International Togo
18:54began thinking about its environmental
18:56strategy, since the organization itself
18:58had started reflecting on the issue in
19:002020, as you must have seen in the
19:02video. So, we began with some work. We
19:11wanted to understand the situation, so
19:13we selected a sample, truly a sample,
19:15of 12 children from all our partner
19:17churches. We brought them together,
19:23worked with them, and listened to them.
19:27And I would like to present two things
19:29that, uh, caught our attention. One of
19:35the children was asked the question: "
19:37What kind of climate would you like to
19:39live in with your children and
19:41grandchildren in 5, 10, or 15 years?"
19:47With eyes closed, he had to answer. The
19:51child told us: an environment like Adam
19:53and Eve's, returning to the Garden of
19:55Eden. That is his dream. And among the
20:05activities, we also asked the children
20:07in the projects to propose drawings or
20:09poems regarding their vision of the
20:19environment and the situation, and from
20:21the Legbacito Temple Patmos church, so
20:23TG 016, we received this poem that I
20:30would like to read to you, which says:
20:35"It is burning, and we with it." The
20:39Earth, the queen mother of our
20:41existence, is consumed by an intense
20:48fire, a fire set by man. This reality
20:55is hard to swallow, like bitter rum, it
20:59burns and so do we. Our own actions are
21:06destroying us, and it seems we will
21:08disappear soon? That is what the
21:13scientists say. The forest meant to
21:17help us is disappearing. Man reacts
21:21this way just for his own interest. It
21:26burns and so do we. From the color
21:32green, it turns to gray, and our cries
21:34go unheard. Do we really have the power
21:40to change everything? Can we have a
21:45better, more organized world? That is
21:49the question that troubles me. I need
21:53concrete action. That is the poem we
21:57received. Those are the words of the
22:02children we serve at our partner
22:06churches. So, to establish the link
22:13between the environment and the work
22:14Compassion does, let us remember that
22:25among the results Compassion expects
22:27for the transformation and flourishing
22:29of young people, there is an element, a
22:31result related to well-being. And when
22:38we talk about well-being, we include
22:40physical well-being. How can you expect
22:49to have a physically healthy young
22:51adult who, during childhood, was
22:52constantly malnourished and frequently
22:54hospitalized, and then, from time to
23:06time, displaced from their home, like
23:08this child who told us: "My parents and
23:13I live in the Diablé plain and, during
23:15the rainy seasons, I have to move and
23:20stay with my aunt because, from home, I
23:22can no longer get to school." So, he
23:25has become a seasonal migrant in his
23:27own home. That child—let's imagine
23:30his future. On the other hand, how can
23:36man feed himself without nature? If we
23:43must eat to be physically healthy, how
23:45can we feed ourselves without nature?
23:50Food security, according to the FAO,
23:55rests on six pillars, and three of
23:57those pillars are linked to the
23:59environment. So how can we build food
24:05security that relies on only 50%of
24:07those pillars? Because the other three
24:12are affected; they are destroyed. So if
24:19we want to go that far, how can we
24:25build a youth while casting aside
24:30environmental issues? Compassion
24:34International, and more specifically
24:36Compassion International Togo, could
24:38not do otherwise. We had no choice when
24:42we faced the reality of this situation.
24:46So, for us, addressing the environment
24:54and dealing with climate change is
24:56intrinsically linked to well-feeding
24:57populations and enabling families to
24:59access sustainable and dignified
25:01livelihoods. so that people are not
25:09forced, as in the Savanes region, to
25:11leave because the rains are poor.
25:18Parents, especially men and young
25:20people, leave their community to go
25:21farm in Burkina, Ghana, or Niger with
25:23all the risks involved, leaving behind
25:25women and children who wait in the hope
25:27that these men will return with
25:29something because, on the spot, they
25:30have nothing to eat. So it is an
25:40obligation for us, an imperative for us
25:42, to address the environmental issue.
25:48If we want to talk about holistic
25:49development, that is to say, of the
25:51whole human being, of the whole child,
25:53we cannot do otherwise than to take an
25:55interest in the environment. I would
25:59like to pause at this point and perhaps
26:01let others contribute some elements as
26:03well. Thank you. Thank you to you as
26:06well, specialists. I hope his
26:09intervention deserves applause because
26:10he sets the stage perfectly on this
26:12issue. He stayed right on topic, in
26:16line with the vision and the
26:18perspective of Compassion International
26:20Togo regarding environmental protection
26:21. Um, well, I was about to take another
26:26intervention from Compassion, but I am
26:28putting Mr. Paul Gaglot on hold to give
26:30the floor to the Reverend Pastor Maikou
26:32. So, you are one of Compassion's
26:35partners, because the question
26:36stipulates it very clearly. What are
26:41the main links between climate change
26:43and the holistic development of the
26:44child according to Compassion Togo and
26:46its partners? You are one of the
26:51partners. We would just like to have
26:54your opinion on the matter.
26:56>> Thank you very much for the question.
26:59Uh, I hope that for Compassion, the
27:01child is at the center. by the climate,
27:05but the climate is only a multiplier of
27:07vulnerability. If you agree with me, at
27:14this time, we are in the rainy season
27:16in the Maritime region. But due to
27:21climate change, it is not raining,
27:23there is heat, and this multiplies
27:24problems everywhere. Our children are
27:27falling ill regularly. Apart from that,
27:31climate stress becomes parental stress.
27:36The climate has made it so that parents
27:38can no longer find enough to eat. It
27:43becomes a problem in the households. If
27:48the child is at the center and the
27:50climate becomes a multiplier of
27:51vulnerability, we want to deliver
27:53children from poverty. and the climate
27:58wants to reverse the trend. What must
28:01we do? We must at the same time attack
28:06the climate, which leads to
28:07environmental protection and which
28:09pushes us to walk in the same momentum
28:11as Compassion in environmental
28:13protection.
28:16>> Thank you very much. Thank you very
28:17much, Reverend Maikou, for this
28:19intervention. you are, in a way,
28:22embracing Compassion's vision regarding
28:24this topic of environmental protection.
28:28So, I turn to you, Mr. Paul Gaglo, with
28:30the same question for you. What are the
28:35connections you establish with these
28:37partner churches regarding climate
28:38change issues? for it must be said that
28:46Compassion International does not just
28:53talk, but Compassion develops modules
28:55and thematic training to be able to
29:06equip its partners to tackle the
29:07environmental problem at its roots.
29:17This means that each partner, depending
29:19on their context, is supported in
29:21taking seriously, from the ground up,
29:23the problems the population is facing.
29:31And what can we, as actors close to the
29:33population representing the mandate
29:35that the Lord has given to His church,
29:37what can we do? And there, they are
29:45equipped to reflect on the protection
29:47of humanity, and there is a whole
29:48battery of training that we have
29:50developed, which we deploy to these
29:51partners to get them interested in the
29:53environmental cause.
29:59>> And since everything you have already
30:01implemented, since you started
30:02developing them, do you feel you
30:03already have glimpses of the results
30:05this shows on the ground at the partner
30:07church level? We have very encouraging
30:11results. For example, when I take the
30:15community of Atitogon, the last
30:27reforestation season, that community
30:29planted more than, I think, 18,000—if
30:31I'm not mistaken—trees, just to allow
30:34the vegetation cover to be restored and
30:36to prevent drought from advancing in
30:38that area. And they took care to plant
30:48species that will meet their needs over
30:50time. For example, fruit trees that
30:57they mixed with forest trees which will
30:59help them cope with the immediate and
31:00also long-term needs of the population.
31:05>> There you go. Thank you very much, and
31:08this is an opportunity to warmly thank
31:10the partner churches that accompany
31:12Compassion in this task. Earlier, in
31:16the discussion of the problem, we all
31:18saw that many families depend on
31:20agriculture as a means of food and
31:22income. The next question for you, Mr.
31:26Jeune Sanda. How can agricultural
31:31difficulties and falling household
31:33incomes affect food, health, education,
31:35and not to mention the children's
31:37future? How can this decline affect
31:41them?
31:42>> Thank you very much. Uh, I would like
31:46to first, I will give you the
31:51definition of food security according
31:53to the fund the Food and Agriculture
31:59Organization of the United Nations, the
32:01FAO, which states the following. Food
32:14security is the situation that exists
32:16when all people at all times have
32:18physical, social, and economic access
32:20to sufficient, safe, and nutritious
32:22food that meets their dietary needs and
32:24food preferences for an active life.
32:38Which means when we say every person at
32:43all times, it means that when you take
32:48a household, there must not be a single
32:50individual who has not eaten
32:56sufficiently or nutritiously enough.
33:03nor that they are eating something out
33:08of obligation because their preference
33:10is not what was presented to them. So,
33:17when we take this definition, it says a
33:19lot of things. A household that
33:29produces, sows, maintains, but does not
33:32harvest. That child, perhaps they would
33:43have wanted to eat corn dough, but
33:45since the rain did not come and corn is
33:46too expensive—I believe we have
33:48experienced the situation here in Togo
33:50where eating rice was cheaper than
34:00eating corn. Rice had become so cheap
34:05that people started preparing rice
34:07dough instead of corn dough.
34:12>> That child who would have wanted to eat
34:13corn dough but is presented with rice.
34:17Even if children like rice, we say they
34:19are food insecure because that is not
34:20what they would have wanted to eat.
34:25They have a preference that is not met.
34:33Climate change has a major effect on
34:35production, the shifting of planting
34:41times, even if the rain eventually
34:47comes, it becomes concentrated. Even if
34:54we succeed in the season despite a
34:56delay, in the meantime, a food gap will
34:58appear somewhere during the time we
35:00were waiting to sow and the time we
35:01will harvest; there is a food gap
35:03because these are generally critical
35:05periods. So, this child living in this
35:14environment is impacted both physically
35:16and psychologically. They are
35:20traumatized, they grow up with trauma.
35:26There are many of us here, especially
35:28us parents who, today, if asked to
35:30recount our childhood experiences, the
35:32number of times we went to bed hungry
35:34or went to school without having eaten,
35:36there are many of us. All of this,
35:42these are traumas that we carry with us
35:44to this day. So, let us understand that
35:51climate change, through the shifting of
35:53agricultural seasons and the scarcity
35:55or poor distribution of rainfall,
35:56affects yields. And saying that yield
36:04is affected and lowered means a small
36:05quantity is produced. Suddenly. Since
36:14we have a survival instinct, when we
36:15have a little, we prefer to eat and
36:17live to see the future rather than sell
36:19it. And if we eat everything we produce
36:24, the child still needs to go to school
36:26. We need to clothe ourselves. And I
36:30was telling my friends the day before
36:32yesterday while we were working that
36:33what Compassion does is not just
36:39subsistence, but we work for existence.
36:43Compassion aims for human existence,
36:46not just subsistence. Compassion
36:50doesn't work just so families can eat,
36:51but so families can eat and also
36:53fulfill themselves and develop. That
36:59children get an education, that
37:01children have decent housing, more than
37:03just shelter in this heat. Imagine five
37:09parents, five people in the same room.
37:16What air will they breathe? Sometimes,
37:19we don't have a fan. We barely have
37:23electricity to even talk about a fan.
37:29The child sleeps poorly, wakes up
37:31poorly, and goes to school stressed. So
37:37climate change has an effect across the
37:39board on us, starting with the effects
37:46on agriculture, our main means of
37:47survival. And this morning, I tried to
37:57challenge artificial intelligence to
37:58see if it is possible anywhere in the
38:00world to live without producing. Well,
38:07the answer is clear. It is impossible.
38:13Without producing. Even if we don't
38:16produce, it says even if we don't
38:18produce, we must go fishing. Fishing
38:21depends on nature. If there is no water
38:23in the river, there are people in
38:25certain communities who are fishermen.
38:27Are you able to fish today? Even when
38:29we fish, is the fish even there? They
38:34say foraging, what are you going to
38:36forage? The leaves themselves are not
38:39even there. The fruits themselves are
38:43not even there. Nutritious plants are
38:48disappearing in favor of harmful ones
38:49that insects cannot eat. What an insect
38:54cannot eat, a human being is not going
38:56to eat either. So, there you have the
38:58situation we are living through. Thank
39:00you very much.
39:01>> There we go. Thank you very much, Mr.
39:03Jean Sanda, for your contribution. We
39:08clearly understand that agricultural
39:10difficulties and the drop in
39:11productivity affect everything down the
39:13line, including households, and there
39:15are immediate repercussions for the
39:16children Compassion supports. So for
39:20the next question, do you have
39:22something to add, Reverend? Go ahead.
39:24>> Yes. Yes.
39:25>> Yes.
39:27>> Uh, if I understand the question
39:28correctly, it asks about agricultural
39:30difficulties leading to lower incomes
39:33and their impact on children.
39:36>> Yes.
39:40>> Here, I would say it's the cascade of
39:42poverty. When there are agricultural
39:49difficulties, there will certainly be a
39:50drop in income. And when income drops,
39:55there will be less on the plate. We
39:58might go from perhaps three meals a day
40:00to just one. We just watched the video,
40:05André spoke about it, and we have
40:07malnutrition, and also, when there is
40:09less money, we end up sacrificing
40:11health too. If the child falls ill, we
40:14cannot manage to take them to the
40:16hospital.
40:17>> To the hospital for care.
40:18>> When there is less money, we take the
40:20child out of school, from their studies
40:22to an apprenticeship. We don't even
40:25have the money to pay for the training
40:27fees. Instead of two years of training,
40:29the child might spend seven years.
40:31Young girls will go off to marry early
40:33because there is no money. When there
40:37are agricultural difficulties, there is
40:39less money. It creates many issues in
40:42the lives of young people.
40:44>> Sometimes there is rural exodus
40:45happening in the countryside. So it
40:48creates a lot of things. Thank you very
40:50much.
40:50>> Thank you very much for your
40:52contribution. Hence this conference to
40:55act, to take action, and indeed,
40:57through these exchanges, through this
40:59panel, we will be able to come up with
41:01tangible paths at the end to help
41:03reduce this difficulty, even if only
41:04slightly, especially by taking care of
41:06the environment and protecting creation
41:08. So, I return to you, my dear friend
41:14Paul Gaglo. He is a training specialist
41:17.
41:21>> Equipping facilitators to be interested
41:23in the environmental cause, and as we
41:25know, the majority of our partners are
41:27in areas where agriculture is their
41:29primary activity. This means that the
41:37children they mentor are already
41:38introduced to agriculture. So when we
41:44interest them in the environmental
41:46cause through our training, they begin
41:48to integrate agriculture. Even those
41:54who live in urban areas start to
41:55integrate agricultural practices into
41:57their curriculum. At the CDJ level, you
42:02can see projects, even here in Lomé,
42:04that practice soil-less agriculture.
42:09This means the child who comes to the
42:11project gets a little hands-on
42:12experience with what is happening in
42:14agriculture at the project. And when
42:19they go home, they will start, even if
42:21it's a rented house, with a small tire
42:23or a small container; they can start
42:25doing something. And it is the
42:31awakening of agricultural curiosity,
42:33environmental curiosity, that we sow in
42:35the child through the activities that
42:37the projects carry out. And each
42:43project, according to its context,
42:44tries to develop what might interest
42:46the child so that the child can become
42:48interested in the environmental cause.
42:54There are projects, given that they are
42:56in an environment full of waste, that
42:58say, "Ah, this waste is here and it
43:00clutters our environment
43:03>> and pollutes the environment. How can
43:06we transform this waste so that instead
43:08of it being a burden for us, it becomes
43:10a raw material for us?
43:13>> And there are projects that have
43:15already started to use this waste, to
43:17transform this waste into raw materials
43:19for other activities as well. And there
43:23are projects, for example, that have
43:25already started making bricks out of
43:26waste.
43:27>> Yes.
43:32>> At the level of our partners, these are
43:34all activities we do so that partners
43:36can take an interest in the
43:37environmental cause and lead the child
43:39from an early age to take an interest
43:40in that cause and also to adopt
43:42behavior that is protective of the
43:43environment. And when that child grows
43:50up, they will not go and commit actions
43:52that will harm the environment. So we
43:58are in one way or another helping our
43:59partners to sow in every child, in
44:01every young person who goes through the
44:03project, this desire to be able to
44:04protect the environment for themselves
44:06and for the generations that will
44:08follow them. Thank you. Thank you.
44:12>> There we go. Thank you very much, Paul
44:14Gaglot. Well, what you have just said
44:17goes without saying. The results are
44:21already being felt in the field. At
44:24least in every CDE on a Saturday, we
44:26either learn to protect the environment
44:28or talk about an agricultural issue.
44:35And this is the opportunity, since the
44:37director has come, to also salute the
44:39Youth Leadership Challenge competition,
44:41which has sown in the participants that
44:43desire to take problems as solutions,
44:45to initiate projects that protect the
44:47environment, but at the same time
44:49contribute to generating income. Thank
44:55you very much to Compassion for all
44:57these initiatives. At least they talk
45:00about the environment and agriculture
45:02in the CDJs. Thank you for the
45:04initiative. So I am going now. Do you
45:07have anything to add? Yes, Mr. Eugène.
45:11>> Thank you very much for giving this nod
45:12to the director regarding the Youth
45:14Leadership Challenge. Those who are
45:21here, we invite you, some of these
45:22young people will be here, they are
45:24going to come. We have planned two
45:31panels where young people with projects
45:33who have found solutions or used
45:34environmental problems as an
45:36opportunity to bounce back will come to
45:37speak to you. So stay attentive,
45:44prepare your ears, and those who have
45:46never seen these competitions, you will
45:48see the results of these competitions
45:50and I believe it will inspire you. And
45:55that is what I wanted to announce.
45:58There are two panels scheduled to have
45:59these young people speak.
46:01>> There you go. Thank you very much, Mr.
46:03Eugène. Earlier, Paul Gaglo was
46:04talking about those young people who
46:06make eco-bricks. Yes, they make bricks
46:09in an ecological way. They also
46:11benefited from support. 1 million CFA
46:14francs. Just a simple competition, a
46:17simple project can also create wealth,
46:19value, and money just by using the
46:21basic things in our community. Once
46:26again, thank you very much to
46:28Compassion International Togo through
46:29its director, whom I ask you to applaud
46:32once again, please applaud the national
46:34director of Compassion for this
46:35initiative, for this competition, I
46:37should specify. So, the next question,
46:41quickly, to you, Reverend Maikuou
46:43Emmanuel. So, the specialists have
46:46spoken in their fields. Now we are
46:48going to come to the church, to what
46:50the church can do. So, how can biblical
46:56teachings, your sermons, your teachings
46:58, your revivals, all of that, how can
47:00these teachings on environmental
47:01protection encourage families and
47:03producers to better manage natural
47:05resources? Here, we are right at the
47:11heart of environmental management.
47:13>> Thank you very much for this question.
47:18Ah, I first wanted to point out that
47:20today, we pastors limit our work to
47:22preaching. Praying, preaching, and we
47:29forget that this responsibility God has
47:31given us is spiritual. In Genesis 2,
47:35verse 15, our opening program moderator
47:38already mentioned it this morning. God
47:42gave two responsibilities to man. To
47:47cultivate and to keep. To cultivate to
47:53provide something to eat, and to keep,
47:55which implies a responsibility to
47:57protect creation, to manage creation
47:59well. And as André told you in the
48:09video, Psalm 24, verse 1 tells us" The
48:11earth is the Lord's, and everything in
48:13it, "which challenges us to know that
48:15even if the Bible tells us to dominate
48:18and subdue, it does not give us the
48:20full responsibility to destroy the
48:22creation that God made and placed at
48:24our disposal. It shows us here that God
48:33holds us as stewards. We, as primary
48:40leaders in our churches, must make our
48:42members aware that we are the guardians
48:44, we are the stewards of God's creation
48:47. And this responsibility means that
48:53creation is spiritual and deserves to
48:55be protected and kept. We must help our
49:00members understand this. Without this,
49:04we will continue to destroy this
49:06creation that God has placed at our
49:08disposal. Today, many misunderstand
49:13when the Bible tells us to" dominate, "
49:16and they take the opportunity to harm
49:18creation, destroying it in a way I
49:20don't even know how to describe. And we
49:27, as a church, must begin this change
49:29right there. I often say something.
49:35When you want someone to do something,
49:37you must start by doing it yourself. I
49:41will never forget this. One day, I was
49:45driving and I saw the traffic light.
49:49The yellow light came on, I was moving,
49:51and just as I was crossing, the red
49:53light turned on. There was a police
49:57officer ahead, and he stopped me. When
50:00he asked for my license, I had my
50:02license and my church ID card in the
50:04same place. I gave him the card instead
50:06of my license. He saw it and said," Ah,
50:09look, a pastor again. "I will never
50:13forget it. I got out and went over to
50:17him." Chief, I am not going to bribe
50:20you. "" No, I did not do the right
50:22thing, and I will never do it again in
50:24my life. "We talked. When he let me go,
50:28I decided never to do it again and I
50:30started teaching this at church. I
50:34started teaching this at church. We, as
50:37pastors—I appeal to all the pastors
50:39in the room and all those following us
50:42online. We must begin to raise
50:45awareness, to teach. Why not? Once a
50:51quarter, the message from the pulpit
50:53should focus on the stewardship of
50:55creation, the protection of creation.
51:00We must do everything possible. We have
51:04prayed so much, we have preached so
51:06much, but if we neglect this aspect, we
51:08are all in danger. And we should
51:13initiate certain things. For example,
51:15at our place, what have we done? I was
51:19personally talking this morning with
51:21the dean. It is truly sad; climate
51:26change is truly sad. I am in the Vau
51:30region and I am an agricultural
51:32producer, as the moderator said, when
51:34you put my land together, it makes more
51:36than 14 hectares. You are aware that
51:41during the first season here in Togo,
51:43there were floods; even in places that
51:45never had floods before, there were
51:47some. And in my field, there was water
51:51for three weeks. Tilling 14 hectares,
51:55hiring people to come sow, people to
51:58weed at 1,500 per square, and
52:00everything was lost. If you were in my
52:05place, what would you do? But this year
52:09, well, this season—I would say this
52:11season—I started all over again. And
52:14if I recall, it was the rain on the 4th
52:16of this past month. The only rain we
52:20had here was on the 4th, and we sowed
52:22everything again since that day. Until
52:25now, there has been no more rain. If we
52:32do not raise awareness in our community
52:34, we will all be victims. We will be
52:38victims. We must start preaching this
52:40from the pulpit. Why not even dedicate
52:43a whole month to preaching this and
52:45undertaking initiatives with the church
52:47? We decided that for reforestation, we
52:51would opt for fruit trees and plant
52:53other trees all around them. And in
52:58three years, when the church starts to
53:00see fruit, it will motivate us. Then,
53:04everyone will go and do it, not for the
53:06church, but for themselves. So, we must
53:12start working from within our church
53:14and then impact our community regarding
53:16climate change. Thank you very much.
53:20>> Thank you very much. You still have the
53:22microphone; this is the final question,
53:24still in a roundtable format. Afterward
53:27, ladies and gentlemen, you will have
53:29the opportunity to ask questions
53:30related to the topics. If some of your
53:35concerns were not addressed by the
53:37proposed protocol, our specialists are
53:39here to explore the subject in depth.
53:43So, we are staying with you because the
53:45next question also deals with churches.
53:49So, Pastor, tell us how churches can
53:51mobilize their members around concrete
53:53actions? Because we have talked, and we
53:57have brought up the subject. Now, it is
53:59time for action. How can churches teach
54:03their members to take concrete actions
54:05such as reforestation, water protection
54:07, and waste disposal?
54:10>> OK, thank you very much. Here, I would
54:12like to say that we can do things that
54:14are less costly. We don't need a big
54:20budget to carry out these concrete
54:21actions, just less costly things. For
54:30example, I was talking with my family
54:32the other day during one of my
54:34children's birthdays, that soon, when
54:36there's another birthday, we'll
54:38organize a birthday with seedlings. A
54:46birthday with seedlings, seedlings.
54:50>> That's good, right? A family, or rather
54:54every family, a child, a seedling on
54:56their birthday. And when we say that
55:03June 1st in Togo is National Tree Day,
55:05we as churches, we must go out, we must
55:08prepare ourselves for that. To help
55:13families. To support our country, our
55:19government, to support our partner
55:21Compassion International Togo in
55:23planting seedlings. I remember, I don't
55:29recall which year. And it was said that
55:33, still within the framework of the
55:35partnership, we had budgeted to plant
55:37many trees that year. And to our great
55:42surprise, the prefect of Vo called us,
55:44and they talked about what the
55:45government wanted to do that year. I
55:49signed up, and the SNPT gave us 3
55:51hectares in our area over there. We all
55:56went. The DP, the police station,
56:00everything. We were all there, the
56:04soldiers carried baskets containing
56:06seedlings, the beneficiaries, all of us
56:08went to plant trees. The sad thing
56:14today is that when you go there, less
56:16than 25%are still there. We must take
56:24action, not only to plant but also to
56:26maintain those seedlings. I am
56:33delighted when you arrive in our church
56:35area. All the trees you see, the church
56:37planted them. There are trees that have
56:41grown very well. There are some people
56:43acting in bad faith. Sometimes they
56:45strip the bark and apply herbicide to
56:47kill them. When they are dead, they can
56:50cut them down to make charcoal. But if
56:53they cut them down like that, we will
56:55arrest them. So, people remove the bark
56:59; the plants we planted near their
57:01houses, they manage to kill them. But
57:09when I see the others, it brings me joy
57:11because today, on the road to the high
57:13school, there is greenery, and it was
57:15the church that did it. So, we can do
57:18things like that. We can have our own
57:21garden where we can bring the members.
57:24We bring the young people to learn. A
57:28young person who comes to plant, who
57:30comes to maintain what we produce there
57:32, they see it and can go and do the
57:33same at their own home. We must
57:37organize things that are very simple,
57:39very simple. I was telling a
57:43coordinator the other day, they are
57:45currently thinking about how, uh, to
57:47plant trees next year. I was saying
57:50what you're going to do there, you need
57:51to involve young people. And also, when
57:54you see waste in their yard. You can
57:58say one kilogram of waste equals one
58:00point, and that one point is worth
58:02something. One kilogram of waste is one
58:07point; when the person collects it in
58:09your surroundings, you encourage them,
58:11it will motivate them to do it, so we
58:13can lead very simple but concrete
58:15actions.
58:16>> There you go.
58:17>> Thank you very much.
58:18>> Thank you very much, Reverend Maikou,
58:20for your contribution. So, accordingly,
58:24you spoke about awareness; now, we must
58:27take action by doing things in a
58:29concrete way. So, I give the floor to
58:33Manager Paul before finishing with the
58:35dean, still on the same question. The
58:38Reverend spoke about awareness, so for
58:40you, it's true that you are not in the
58:42shoes of the churches, but you work
58:44with the churches because the churches
58:46are partners to your organization. How
58:50can the churches mobilize their
58:52congregants around concrete actions to
58:54preserve or to protect water, the
58:55environment, and everything it contains
58:58?
59:03>> To build on the same point as Pastor
59:05Maikou, I would say there are several
59:07actions that churches can take with
59:08their congregants. Every person in
59:14their home cooks at least once a day.
59:21And we have a module that helps
59:23facilitators support parents and
59:24congregants in creating improved
59:26cookstoves. The parent who cooks, the
59:37amount of charcoal that the normal
59:39stove takes, when they adopt the
59:40improved stove, they will not use that
59:42same amount of charcoal. And that
59:49contributes to the protection of the
59:51environment and the preservation of
59:52what the pastor said just now. When the
59:56parent doesn't spend too much, they
59:57won't seek to cut down the tree in
59:59front of them to make charcoal. So we
1:00:02can go into also embrace the use of
1:00:09renewable energy to try to solve the
1:00:11problem a little bit. Parents can use
1:00:16improved cookstoves. Parents can,
1:00:21instead of charcoal, use other
1:00:23resources that we teach, we teach the
1:00:25production of those resources. Parents
1:00:31can group together. Our guests, we show
1:00:35them how to produce these resources to
1:00:37be able to replace firewood in their
1:00:39homes. We have several partners who
1:00:43accompany us on this journey. So we are
1:00:48willing and we support parents in
1:00:50adopting other sources of energy
1:00:52besides wood.
1:00:55>> There you go. Thank you very much. so,
1:00:57this will allow us to stop killing
1:00:59trees to, uh, to make charcoal. So, I
1:01:03wonder, when we cook with charcoal,
1:01:05that intense heat that is released, not
1:01:07only does it affect you while you're
1:01:09cooking, but at the same time, it
1:01:11destroys the atmosphere and all of that
1:01:12. So, we finish with you, Dean. The
1:01:16same question for you, as always. Your
1:01:19specialty is food security. Now, you
1:01:24will address our dear pastors, our dear
1:01:26church leaders who are here, by
1:01:28proposing concrete actions to protect
1:01:29water, to protect the environment, to
1:01:31protect nature.
1:01:35>> Thank you very much. And I am not going
1:01:40to propose new actions, but there are
1:01:42actions we already have that we invite
1:01:44them to adopt. Uh, Compassion
1:01:51International Togo supports partner
1:01:52churches in creating an agroecology
1:01:54promotion center. The center has been
1:02:00operational for over a year now. And
1:02:05you heard Andrew mention over 4,000
1:02:07parents who have been trained, and they
1:02:09are trained at that center. So in this
1:02:16center, we are doing concrete things
1:02:17with the churches. We ask the churches
1:02:22to send people who can be trained to go
1:02:24and train parents and young people in
1:02:26their centers. Because we cannot go to
1:02:30every center, to every church. And what
1:02:36we do, we do practice, science, but
1:02:38science based on the word of God. And
1:02:43those who come there can testify to you
1:02:44. Every time we meet there for a
1:02:49session, we usually meet for 3 days or
1:02:514 days, generally. We start everything
1:02:57with the word of God. The aspect,
1:03:03meaning the biblical significance of
1:03:05everything we do. And today, when you
1:03:11come to the site, if you want to
1:03:12understand how to do animal farming
1:03:14without using chemical products, you
1:03:16will see what we do there. We have
1:03:23rabbits, guinea fowl, chickens, turkeys
1:03:26, ducks, pigs, small ruminants, and we
1:03:28are starting fish farming. Crop
1:03:35production without chemical inputs, you
1:03:37will see it there. The production of
1:03:44organic inputs, meaning you will, uh,
1:03:46both, when you go down, you will see
1:03:48projects like—as the manager was
1:03:50saying—that have transformed this
1:03:52training into an opportunity to earn
1:03:53money. Taking waste, transforming it
1:04:01into fertilizer, and selling it. So we
1:04:06are doing concrete work on the site,
1:04:08and we are doing it for the good of the
1:04:10churches. So, through this center,
1:04:16Compassion is already sowing, making
1:04:18human resources available to the
1:04:20churches. And there are changes. Uh, we
1:04:30don't have...if we could spend a month
1:04:32here, we would show you things that
1:04:34come to us: photos, testimonies that
1:04:36reach us, households that have started
1:04:38gardening, parents who have changed
1:04:40their production methods, that is to
1:04:42say, parents who produce organically. I
1:04:50don't want to use the word" organic "
1:04:51because it has another meaning, but
1:04:53they produce naturally and testify to
1:04:55the impact or the adoption of their
1:04:57products on the market because they are
1:04:58of good quality. So that is a little of
1:05:03what I wanted to say. We are not
1:05:05proposing new actions, but the actions
1:05:07are already there. We are simply
1:05:10inviting the churches to look for them
1:05:12and to take ownership of them.
1:05:14>> Thank you very much.
1:05:15>> Thank you very much, Deans. This is an
1:05:17opportunity to remind everyone to visit
1:05:20the NAAPC website. Is that right? NPC
1:05:22to see what Compassion is doing. It’s
1:05:25not just talk; uh, action is joined
1:05:27with words. Once again, can we praise
1:05:33the Lord for the lives of our dear
1:05:35panelists, for their availability and
1:05:36their mastery of the issues regarding
1:05:38the environment and the protection of
1:05:40creation? Well, we have just concluded
1:05:45the first part. Uh, of these exchanges.
1:05:48The floor is yours, dear audience. Any
1:05:53questions or testimonies to share with
1:05:55us on the agricultural practices that
1:05:57have been initiated, just to motivate
1:05:58other people to...well, to get you
1:06:00moving. So, for 5, 10, 15 minutes
1:06:05maximum, we will take these questions.
1:06:08There we go, we will open a series of
1:06:10five questions. Please, leave it to the
1:06:12test. Can you help us with the
1:06:14microphone? There is a mother here.
1:06:16Please stand up, introduce yourself,
1:06:18and we will take five questions. Ah, my
1:06:20goodness, so many hands; will we be
1:06:22able to manage? Fortunately, the
1:06:23panelists are here. So, to go quickly,
1:06:38we’ll take 5 people. Stand up, give
1:06:41your name, we'll take 5 people at the
1:06:43same time. There we go. Help us with,
1:06:46that's good, the name, the name, and
1:06:48then your locality of origin and...
1:06:51>> First, I say thank you to Compassion
1:06:53International Togo, thank you to the
1:06:55panelists.
1:06:56>> There we go, your first and last name
1:06:58first, and then your, yes.
1:06:59>> It’s Bou and Soran.
1:07:00>> There, and Soranam. The first person,
1:07:02there is a hand here, please. There is
1:07:04a gentleman in front of me here, go
1:07:06ahead, give him the microphone, give
1:07:07him the microphone to introduce himself
1:07:09. To list the five people, the first
1:07:11five people who will ask questions,
1:07:12please pass him the microphone, the
1:07:20second person. There you go.
1:07:22>> Thank you very much. My name is Pagou,
1:07:26I am an evangelist and head of the Silo
1:07:28prayer and evangelism camp
1:07:33>> uh of the Colas 158.
1:07:42>> There you go. Thank you. The 2nd person
1:07:44, the 3rd person please. Here is the
1:07:46microphone in the back. Yes, the uncle
1:07:51next to you. There you go.
1:07:53>> Moderator, the microphone here.
1:07:55>> Yes. Okay, let him introduce himself
1:07:57and then you can speak.
1:07:59>> Thank you, my name is Gou Kokena.
1:08:02>> Pardon?
1:08:04>> Gaku Kok Sena.
1:08:05>> You come from
1:08:07>> I come from Moyen-Mono.
1:08:09>> Okay. The 3rd person, the 4th person,
1:08:12and then the one on the side. Yes,
1:08:14>> I am a PC, I come from Soua.
1:08:20>> Please, repeat that.
1:08:22>> Moou
1:08:23>> Mozou
1:08:23>> M O U Z O U
1:08:25>> Okay.
1:08:26>> Panb
1:08:30>> who comes from Soubo
1:08:31>> Sotou. The 5th person 1 I am the
1:08:42president of the beekeepers in Togo. I
1:08:44come from
1:08:47>> Please repeat slowly, repeat slowly so
1:08:49we can write it down. Say it first.
1:09:00>> There you go. Go ahead now with the
1:09:03question. That's good, we have closed
1:09:07the list of five people. We will open
1:09:09another list. You have the floor.
1:09:12>> Thank you very much. This is not a
1:09:14question.
1:09:15>> Yes,
1:09:16>> a request.
1:09:18>> Go ahead.
1:09:19>> I thank you for everything you are
1:09:21doing. the president of the beekeepers
1:09:25in is making efforts to make improved
1:09:34stoves. I propose that we could use our
1:09:46animal waste to make something for
1:09:48women so they can cook without using
1:09:49wood. We will use our animal waste to
1:09:59cook.
1:10:01>> Okay? And secondly, if you go to court,
1:10:07there is 70%land issues. So we can urge
1:10:21our young people to take that wood to
1:10:23plant it on the boundary of our land,
1:10:254m by 4m square, that around your land
1:10:27you will leave 2m between the markers.
1:10:40That if everyone manages to plant trees
1:10:424m around their land, there will be
1:10:44many trees in Togo.
1:10:49>> Okay.
1:10:51>> And the court cases will decrease,
1:10:55>> resolved.
1:10:56>> Thank you.
1:10:57>> Thank you very much, Togby, for your
1:10:59request. That is well thought out on
1:11:01your part. Here is the microphone for
1:11:03Mr. Mozou. Mr. Mozou.
1:11:06>> Oh, thank you. You're welcome.
1:11:13>> I thank the dean, Mr. Sanda, and in his
1:11:15presentation, he mentioned a young
1:11:17child who, when it rains, is forced to
1:11:19go to his aunt's house so he can go to
1:11:22school. We see that this is a
1:11:31difficulty that this young person faces
1:11:33due to climate change. And the pastor,
1:11:42in his presentation, it really
1:11:44resonated with me; I told myself that
1:11:46he truly saw the problem that I had
1:11:48also seen in the meantime. He mentioned
1:11:58that when the climate changes, it means
1:12:00there will be no production, and this
1:12:02lack of production affects many people.
1:12:14Which means, firstly, that children
1:12:16cannot go to school, we also cannot
1:12:18afford medical prescriptions, which
1:12:20leads to some children whose parents do
1:12:23not have the means and cannot cover
1:12:25apprenticeship fees—those children
1:12:27end up idle for years. But we thank
1:12:36Compassion so much for these efforts.
1:12:42This morning, before we went on break,
1:12:44we were told there are over 93,000
1:12:46sponsored children per year. We see
1:12:53that this number is huge. But when we
1:12:59do the calculations, we see that the
1:13:01children who are not sponsored are well
1:13:03beyond those 93,000 children.
1:13:07>> There it is.
1:13:07>> What can be done?
1:13:12>> So, as the pastor was saying, I invite
1:13:14Compassion. I think there are certain
1:13:21organizations on the ground that are
1:13:22already taking charge of such needs.
1:13:27There is the Foyer de l'Espérance,
1:13:28which I established myself. These
1:13:37structures could be supported so that
1:13:39these children who are not sponsored
1:13:40can benefit, can have professional
1:13:42training, so that it doesn't just stop
1:13:44at those 93,000 children who are
1:13:45sponsored. So plan—I say plan—I say
1:13:54compassion, compassion, compassion.
1:13:57>> It makes a lot of effort. They might
1:14:00say," Mr. Mozou, we lack financial
1:14:03resources. "If we look across the
1:14:07country, if we subsidize at least two
1:14:09or three structures per year, I think
1:14:11this work could move forward. Bravo,
1:14:17Compassion, may your efforts continue.
1:14:20Thank you.
1:14:21>> Thank you very much to you. Mr. Mozou,
1:14:23for your suggestion. Thank you very
1:14:25much. That is noted; the third person,
1:14:28Mr. Sénat.
1:14:30>> Yes.
1:14:36>> OK. Thank you. PL, the manager, in his
1:14:42speech, mentioned other sources of
1:14:44energy other than wood. I would like to
1:14:50know if he could list these energy
1:14:52sources for us. Thank you.
1:14:54>> There we go. Thank you very much. Your
1:14:56question is noted. Other sources of
1:14:58energy. The second person, I believe,
1:15:02is Mr. de Cota Cololas. I thank you;
1:15:15during your various interventions, I
1:15:17was able to note that the crisis is
1:15:25based on climate change. In the face of
1:15:33this dysfunction, what policy is
1:15:35Compassion putting in place to address
1:15:37these issues? I would like to say that
1:15:45in Togo, as our reverend said, last
1:15:47main season, the abundance of rain
1:15:49destroyed everything. Then, during this
1:15:56last one, which is the short season,
1:15:58the lack of rain is the cause. So, at
1:16:07such a time, will we continue to live
1:16:09waiting for rain to fall from the sky,
1:16:11or does Compassion have a policy to
1:16:13solve this problem? So the second
1:16:20question is about weeding. Which does
1:16:25not help in working large areas. We
1:16:29know that Togo has a population that is
1:16:40increasing rapidly, and this does not
1:16:42help us to prepare a large space for
1:16:44our crops. And if we look at Westerners
1:16:54and others, it is true that they are
1:16:56ahead of us by using tractors and such.
1:17:00And also on this subject, does
1:17:02Compassion have a policy? And if the
1:17:07answer to my two questions is obvious,
1:17:08then what action should be taken to
1:17:10benefit from it? Thank you very much.
1:17:14>> Well, thank you very much for your
1:17:16questions. That is well noted. So, for
1:17:21the first person,
1:17:25>> thank you very much. Uh, to start,
1:17:32yesterday we arrived and where we were
1:17:34lodged, there was a strict instruction
1:17:37given to us, which was not to enter
1:17:39with plastic, not to buy something, put
1:17:41it in a plastic bag, and bring it
1:17:43inside the enclosure. And this
1:17:50instruction caught my attention. And
1:17:58when I compare this instruction or this
1:18:00, uh, guideline to what we have just
1:18:02learned from our panelists today, the
1:18:04use of plastics is also a factor that
1:18:06contributes to the degradation of our
1:18:08environment and even affects our health
1:18:10. And today, if we look at our
1:18:19consumption, we can say that we consume
1:18:25around 70%plastic every day. And I see
1:18:32that it seriously affects our health.
1:18:40And when we see that, it is like, uh,
1:18:42someone who is in an anthill but wants
1:18:45to remove the ants while still being
1:18:47inside the ants. What did I mean by
1:18:52that? The production of these plastics
1:18:59that we use today, which pollute the
1:19:01environment, and at the same time we
1:19:03are told to reduce production and not
1:19:05to use them, but when we use them, it
1:19:07has a harmful effect on our health, and
1:19:09we even use plastics to serve food to
1:19:11our participants. And this really is it
1:19:20, and it is also something that affects
1:19:22children's health. Now Can Compassion,
1:19:32Compassion International Togo, use its
1:19:35voice to have this production somewhat,
1:19:37uh, reduced by our authorities? All
1:19:43right.
1:19:43>> Plastic production.
1:19:44>> There you go. Thank you very much.
1:19:47Thank you very much for your question.
1:19:51We will quickly answer these questions
1:19:53and move on to the participants '
1:19:55testimonies, and if there is time, we
1:19:57will take another series of five
1:19:58questions. So, you agree with me,
1:20:02panelists. Many questions have been
1:20:04addressed to Compassion, as well as
1:20:06pleas and suggestions. Let's start with
1:20:11the first, the very last intervention
1:20:12from our dear gentleman who was
1:20:14concerned about the proliferation of
1:20:16plastic bags. We produce them, but at
1:20:21the same time, their use is prohibited.
1:20:26So, for him, can't Compassion use its
1:20:29voice or advocate, uh, for a decrease,
1:20:31a reduction in the production of these,
1:20:33uh, well, these plastic bags? The floor
1:20:39is yours, uh, to the senior member
1:20:41quickly. But
1:20:42>> thank you very much. Uh, earlier at the
1:20:46opening, the Chief of Staff, as he was
1:20:48leaving, made a joke here. He said that
1:20:53the word has preceded the action. Today
1:20:56, Compassion is no longer about just
1:21:01words. It is true, we do advocacy. If
1:21:06the minister sent his Chief of Staff
1:21:08here, perhaps it is the minister
1:21:09himself who could have been here. For
1:21:12the first edition, we had the minister
1:21:14come here. It is nothing more or less
1:21:18than advocacy to show the authorities
1:21:23that we are interested. We are
1:21:25interested in the environmental issue.
1:21:28That is one thing. Secondly, we talked
1:21:33about young people who have initiatives
1:21:35to turn these problems into
1:21:36opportunities. Instead of sitting
1:21:42around complaining, let's take action.
1:21:45Transforming these problems into
1:21:47opportunities. There are young people
1:21:52who will be with us on Saturday who
1:21:53collect those bags and turn them into
1:21:55bricks to earn money. Why shouldn't a
1:22:04project go into manufacturing
1:22:06biodegradable packaging from other
1:22:08materials, I don't know what, to reduce
1:22:10the use of bags in the CDJ, in their
1:22:12own CDJ? And perhaps others will copy
1:22:19them. So we are focused on this action,
1:22:23doing advocacy but with concrete
1:22:25actions. Presenting concrete elements
1:22:29to the authorities to tell them, this
1:22:31is what we are doing. Rather than just
1:22:34talking, talking, talking and marching
1:22:36—we won't be marching. Compassion
1:22:38cannot march. But we will act to show
1:22:41the authorities that we are interested
1:22:42in the issue. The issue, the problem,
1:22:47is everyone's problem. That is a little
1:22:49of what I can say at this level.
1:22:50>> There we go, the responsibilities are
1:22:52shared, the responsibilities are clear.
1:22:54Compassion also does what is its
1:22:56responsibility. Do you have anything to
1:22:58add regarding this question?
1:22:59>> Yes, I wanted to add by saying if these
1:23:02bags no longer exist today, what are we
1:23:04going to do? Let's adopt this system
1:23:06instead. The bags are there, but we can
1:23:10use other means instead of these bags.
1:23:16If we all start acting this way, I hope
1:23:18it won't be someone who will tell these
1:23:20bag production plants to stop. We must
1:23:26first realize that the use of these
1:23:28bags creates problems for us. If we are
1:23:31aware of that and we stop, that is it.
1:23:34Thank you very much.
1:23:36>> Thank you very much for this addition.
1:23:38So the next question is also addressed
1:23:40to Compassion. Two issues were raised,
1:23:44and we are asking Compassion what
1:23:45Compassion could do in the face of
1:23:47climate change? In the face of climate
1:23:51change, what could Compassion do
1:23:53regarding the use of the hoe to weed
1:23:55fields and all that? Because we are in
1:23:59the era of modernization, in the era of
1:24:01agricultural mechanization, but it is
1:24:03clear that some people still continue
1:24:04to use the hoe or rudimentary means to
1:24:06produce, which frankly, the yield will
1:24:08be so minimal. Now, regarding these two
1:24:12things, uh, what Compassion is doing
1:24:13has already been discussed. I will let
1:24:16the manager speak on this question.
1:24:20>> Thank you to the person who asked the
1:24:21question. It must be said that
1:24:24mechanization, large-scale
1:24:25mechanization, is costly. So Compassion
1:24:29, in its actions with partners,
1:24:31encourages small-scale mechanization
1:24:33while waiting for us to have greater
1:24:35means. And what is small-scale
1:24:39mechanization? For example, brush
1:24:44cutters, the few small machines that
1:24:45are sent from abroad that we can use in
1:24:47our agriculture. So we encourage this
1:24:52in our interventions with partners. We
1:24:57encourage the use of these machines
1:24:59which are not very expensive, but which
1:25:01can help to solve to some extent the
1:25:02manual labor and the work of the......
1:25:11to clear much more space than if we
1:25:12used the hoe. So, in our interventions,
1:25:16we encourage partners to make use of
1:25:18them. And there are also large-scale
1:25:23actions that Compassion carries out
1:25:24with partners. There are the centers
1:25:33that the dean just mentioned where we
1:25:35encourage those who come to learn to
1:25:36use organic products to be able to weed
1:25:38the field. We are not going to use
1:25:51chemical herbicides, and not just
1:25:52chemical fertilizers, but there are
1:25:54biologically produced things that can
1:25:56help farmers clear more space. So,
1:26:04while we wait to have the major
1:26:05resources, this is what we are advising
1:26:07partners to do for the time being. The
1:26:10dean surely has something to add to
1:26:11this.
1:26:13>> And I would have liked the dean to
1:26:15address the issue, here he is for a
1:26:17moment, the pastor, our friend asked
1:26:18about facing climate change. I hope the
1:26:24manager has already spoken about local
1:26:26methods to handle weeding or regarding
1:26:28climate change. What does Compassion
1:26:33intend to do or plan to do to reduce
1:26:37this phenomenon? Thank you very much.
1:26:44As I said, we are already taking action
1:26:46by showing alternatives to reduce and
1:26:48mitigate the effects of climate change.
1:26:56We are talking, for example, about the
1:26:58issue of seeds; the imported improved
1:27:00seeds we use are not adapted to the
1:27:02climatic situation. Which is why when
1:27:09we talk about corn that has suffered
1:27:11from drought, it is because it is an
1:27:13imported, improved variety. We
1:27:18conducted tests and trials with the
1:27:20local corn variety at the NAPC site. We
1:27:26planted corn that only received two
1:27:28rains, but we were able to harvest; we
1:27:30harvested the local variety. And so, on
1:27:34the site, we are currently promoting
1:27:36indigenous seeds. And quite recently,
1:27:47we trained nearly 60 church actors from
1:27:49all the centers on the multiplication
1:27:50of indigenous seeds, and we provided
1:27:52each center with a quantity of seeds to
1:27:54multiply with the parents and at the
1:27:56centers. If some are not informed,
1:28:07speak to the Partnership Facilitator;
1:28:09they will tell you who was trained and
1:28:10who received those seeds. We have seven
1:28:16types of vegetable seeds that were made
1:28:18available to them. So we are already
1:28:21doing what the manager mentioned
1:28:22regarding techniques. For example,
1:28:25mulching allows you to avoid weeding.
1:28:28You plant, you have a space, you have
1:28:31grass. Instead of burning the grass,
1:28:34using it for mulching reduces the
1:28:36development of weeds. Cover crops,
1:28:41doing intercropping. You associate
1:28:46climbing plants with plants that creep
1:28:48along the ground. We have plenty of
1:28:52varieties that we neglect, plenty of
1:28:53plants that we neglect. When we talk
1:28:57about squash, squash is an incredible
1:29:00food source, both for people and for
1:29:02animals. At the site over there, we
1:29:06plant them. Personally, when I go there
1:29:09, I come back with squash. But we have
1:29:12rabbits that we feed them to. So you
1:29:16cover the soil around your corn. You
1:29:19don't need to weed. You are going to
1:29:21harvest the squash. Either you eat them
1:29:23or you give them to the animals, and
1:29:25you harvest your corn. So, these are
1:29:28the kinds of solutions we are adopting
1:29:30to deal with this situation. So we are
1:29:38at your disposal for those who want to
1:29:39learn; there are even classes that
1:29:41organize visits to see for themselves
1:29:43what we are doing, and when people go
1:29:45back, initiatives are born very quickly
1:29:47because it's concrete and simple. Thank
1:29:55you very much, Dean, for this technical
1:29:57touch, this, well, this contribution
1:29:59from Compassion. The time for talk has
1:30:01passed, the time for action is here,
1:30:03and Compassion is already leading by
1:30:05example. So, I strongly invite you. I
1:30:07keep hearing about the NAPC and
1:30:09everything being done there. The Dean,
1:30:11in his presentations, always mentions
1:30:13what is being done. So, this is your
1:30:16opportunity to take a tour and see what
1:30:18is happening there. Pastor,
1:30:21>> I wanted to add a few things, and the
1:30:23Dean touched on one. When it comes to
1:30:26climate change for us agricultural
1:30:28producers, when there is flooding, uh,
1:30:30for the moment, I don't have a solution
1:30:32for flooding. But if it's drought,
1:30:36there are small ways to manage. When
1:30:39you go to sow, the Dean says something
1:30:41that is very important. Let's opt for
1:30:47local seeds rather than looking for
1:30:49imported seeds. That is truly important
1:30:55. And also, there are certain products
1:30:59when you go to the NPC, they are made
1:31:01there. We manufacture other natural
1:31:06products that you can mix with the
1:31:08seeds before sowing. And when it
1:31:13sprouts, it grows vigorously, and you
1:31:15mulch your plot. I tell you today, you
1:31:20don't need to have a big field. You can
1:31:24have a small field with this technique
1:31:26and you will harvest more than someone
1:31:28who has done many fields, someone who
1:31:30has cultivated on a large space. So I
1:31:35encourage you to opt for this technique
1:31:37. When you mulch, when there is a
1:31:39drought, your plants will be there like
1:31:41this. They won't even feel that there
1:31:43is a drought. When there is a drought,
1:31:46your plants, your plants will survive.
1:31:48There are bio-fertilizers that are made
1:31:50at NRPC. Let’s go there, learn this
1:31:53practice, and when we return, we can
1:31:55adopt them in our fields and it will
1:31:57help us. Now, to finish, I will step
1:32:00into your shoes for the second part of
1:32:02the question. I am no longer a panelist
1:32:05, I will step into your shoes as a
1:32:07partner church regarding the tractors
1:32:09my friend is talking about. It is
1:32:11really important. I hope that
1:32:14Compassion, uh, helps us a lot with the
1:32:16C, the complementary interventions. If
1:32:20they can think about this, even if
1:32:22it’s one per region, it could really
1:32:24help the partner churches. Today, our
1:32:27government is doing its best. But often
1:32:30the government tractors work on state
1:32:32projects and when they finish before
1:32:34coming to serve the farmers, the time
1:32:36has already passed. We suffer
1:32:38enormously in this regard. So please
1:32:40think about it, I beg of you. Thank you
1:32:42very much.
1:32:43>> I hope this has fallen on good ears.
1:32:48Thank you very much. The issue of
1:32:51mechanization is a national one. Last
1:32:56year, for those who were there, the
1:32:58Ministry of Agriculture, the technician
1:33:00who was there told us we were at 3%of
1:33:02mechanized land in Togo. It is very,
1:33:06very minimal. And the reasons, most of
1:33:10the reasons are that we have small
1:33:12spaces, small spaces that we cultivate
1:33:18individually. It’s difficult to use a
1:33:21tractor. We have spaces that are poorly
1:33:27managed and we had a small issue with a
1:33:29project where we wanted to do a test.
1:33:36The first problem we had is that people
1:33:38use small paths to go through others'
1:33:40fields to get to their own. Is your
1:33:45tractor going to walk through someone
1:33:47else’s field to get there, or do you
1:33:49have tractors with two legs like a
1:33:50bicycle? That is the question. The
1:33:55other aspect, people say the palm tree
1:33:57is our wealth. The field is dotted with
1:34:01palm trees and other trees. that we
1:34:04cannot cut down because we must
1:34:06preserve them. As a result, the tractor
1:34:09has no space to work. These are the
1:34:13constraints that mechanization faces.
1:34:17So, what Compassion is doing today is
1:34:19encouraging producers and parents to
1:34:21form cooperatives. If you are in a
1:34:27cooperative and, for example, on the
1:34:29south side of a village, I’m just
1:34:31using this as an example, everyone who
1:34:33farms there is in the cooperative to
1:34:34get organized. The tractor will plow
1:34:39from the back moving forward. It can
1:34:43walk through the field and go plow at
1:34:44the other one's place before coming to
1:34:46plow the first field. But if you are
1:34:52not in a cooperative, by the time the
1:34:54one in the back wants to plow, the
1:34:56first one has already plowed and sown,
1:34:58so the tractor cannot pass. So we
1:35:03encourage the parents to organize
1:35:05themselves, to form cooperatives. Even
1:35:09with your small spaces, you can get
1:35:11access to a tractor. Those footpaths,
1:35:15even the tiller cannot pass. The tiller
1:35:19cannot pass. Do you see what I mean?
1:35:26These are constraints, and my
1:35:28specialist colleague has been fighting
1:35:29for two years on the aspect of getting
1:35:31parents into cooperatives to see how we
1:35:33can improve their way of working. And I
1:35:40also touch on processing, on value
1:35:42added, that is to say, on the creation
1:35:44of value chains. It is important
1:35:48individually. You cannot work in value
1:35:51chains. You must form a cooperative to
1:35:54be reasonably supported. Thank you very
1:35:57much. Thank you very much to you, Deans
1:35:59, for these interventions, for these
1:36:01clarifications. So the last question,
1:36:04well, is addressed to manager Paul
1:36:06Gaglo. Uh, the question asks to list
1:36:10the other sources of energy that you
1:36:12mentioned during your intervention.
1:36:14>> Thank you very much. Speaking of other
1:36:20energy sources besides wood, we have
1:36:22animal production waste that can be
1:36:24used to produce gas. And we have the
1:36:30professor, it's Professor B
1:36:33>> who will come to talk to us about it
1:36:34here. And even when we take wood, the
1:36:41waste, the wood can be standing, but
1:36:42the waste that is under the wood can be
1:36:44transformed, we call them biomass, we
1:36:46can use them to create energy for
1:36:48heating or for cooking. We can use
1:36:55waste from our kitchen. When we finish
1:37:00cooking, all of that goes into the
1:37:02biomass which can help with cooking
1:37:03without touching the wood we have. And
1:37:08there are people who even use the
1:37:09residues from the mill. Currently,
1:37:13there are households that use that. So
1:37:18we have several other sources of energy
1:37:20that we can use without touching the
1:37:21wood. Thank you very much. Thank you
1:37:24very much to you for all these
1:37:25clarifications. Yes, Dean,
1:37:27>> excuse me, I am talking a lot but
1:37:30>> I will still mention NapC, the ZFI
1:37:33center. We talked about energy sources.
1:37:36Professor Agati is currently supporting
1:37:39us. We have a biodigester. We use
1:37:43animal waste to produce gas. Two weeks
1:37:47ago, we already did the test. The gas
1:37:50is there. We lit the fire. All that
1:37:53remains is to set up the device to
1:37:55collect the gas, gas that you can
1:37:57collect in bags, transport wherever you
1:37:59want, to take to your kitchen and light
1:38:01a fire. Yes, the biodigester is already
1:38:07functional at NAAPC.
1:38:11>> Thank you very much. That is a pure
1:38:13invention. Uh, congratulations on what
1:38:16is being done at the NAAPC. So, we are
1:38:19going to take a tour to draw
1:38:21inspiration from it. The other
1:38:23interventions, well, they are
1:38:25suggestions and proposals. Uh, the
1:38:28other children.
1:38:31>> To add to what the Dean just said, even
1:38:34our toilets, please, the WC, can be
1:38:36used to produce gas. So, it's not just
1:38:41wood. We have plenty of other things we
1:38:45can use to produce energy for cooking.
1:38:48Thank you.
1:38:48>> There you go. Thank you very much,
1:38:50manager. So, the other interventions,
1:38:53as I was saying, uh, there is Dean Mozu
1:38:55who proposed thinking about the other
1:38:57children who are not covered by the
1:38:59compassion program. There is our dear
1:39:04Togwi Bobuto who recommended that waste
1:39:06, uh, kitchen waste here can also be
1:39:08used for something. And regarding
1:39:15contentious issues, we must recommend
1:39:17planting trees every 4 square meters to
1:39:19delimit the land and avoid land
1:39:21problems. Well, time is catching up
1:39:26with us, we will move to the final
1:39:27stage of this panel. There are
1:39:31participants who have testimonies
1:39:32regarding agricultural practices,
1:39:34regarding the income that has allowed
1:39:35them to increase their standard of
1:39:37living. I believe they are already
1:39:41prepared. We will receive them quickly
1:39:44for at least one or two testimonies. I
1:39:55believe they are prepared. The
1:40:03participants who are to testify about
1:40:05agricultural practices. Oh. So, time is
1:40:29catching up with us. We will have to
1:40:33close the panel by giving the floor to
1:40:35our dear panelists. In less than a
1:40:43minute, summarize everything said about
1:40:45the partnership links with churches and
1:40:46the actions taken to protect and
1:40:48promote environmental protection. So,
1:40:54we give the floor to the man of God,
1:40:56Reverend Maikou Emmanuel, for his
1:40:58closing remarks.
1:41:00>> Thank you very much. I truly want to
1:41:03congratulate you and thank you for your
1:41:05attention. Ah, to conclude, what did I
1:41:09want to say? Today, if we get into
1:41:12agriculture, there are very easy
1:41:14practices for doing agriculture. But we
1:41:18must note that these practices are
1:41:20truly destroying the environment and
1:41:22destroying us as well. The use of
1:41:26chemicals, and especially the
1:41:28herbicides we use, that is how we kill
1:41:31the weeds, it's a vicious cycle. The
1:41:35earth is angry with us. Please, let the
1:41:40earth breathe. To the farmers in the
1:41:46room, I wanted to advise us today, we
1:41:48are facing health realities. It comes
1:41:53from everything we eat. It comes from
1:41:56everything we eat. As the dean says and
1:42:00repeats, I am referring us back to the
1:42:02APC. There are simple, natural
1:42:08practices that can help us farm freely
1:42:10and stay healthy. May the Lord bless us
1:42:15. Amen.
1:42:17>> Amen. Thank you very much to Reverend
1:42:19Emmanuel for those words. We now give
1:42:22the floor to the manager.
1:42:24>> Thank you very much for your attention.
1:42:28Thank you for the notes you have
1:42:30already taken, which will be useful for
1:42:35your actions when you are back home. It
1:42:39is one thing to listen, it is another
1:42:41to take something that we can apply.
1:42:48And I invite us for this panel, even if
1:42:50it is just one action, note that you
1:42:52will start it as soon as you return
1:42:54home, and change will begin from that
1:42:56very action. Protecting the environment
1:43:01is not the business of the government
1:43:03alone. It is not the business of
1:43:05organizations. It is my own business. I
1:43:10protect my environment, the other
1:43:11person also protects their environment,
1:43:13and together we contribute to
1:43:15protecting our environment, making our
1:43:16land more livable for us and for
1:43:18generations to come. Thank you very
1:43:21much.
1:43:22>> Thank you very much to you, manager.
1:43:23The time for action is now. He said it
1:43:26so well, honor to whom honor is due,
1:43:28the only dean on this panel, you have
1:43:30the immense responsibility of closing
1:43:32this panel.
1:43:34>> Thank you very much. Thank you all for
1:43:38listening to us. I would simply like to
1:43:43tell you that we are at your disposal.
1:43:47We are the instrument that Compassion
1:43:49International Togo puts at your
1:43:51disposal to seek solutions with you. So
1:43:57, approach us, call us for questions
1:43:58that may have remained, or elements you
1:44:01wish to delve into, we can discuss with
1:44:03you. And I might make some of my
1:44:09children jealous. I have two. I have
1:44:13the agribusiness training center that
1:44:15is in Kele. I don't talk about it much
1:44:18because over there it is agribusiness,
1:44:20it is business, it is about seeking
1:44:22money. But we had a very moving
1:44:24testimony there. There is the chief The
1:44:33canton chief of Que, who came to a
1:44:35certificate presentation ceremony, told
1:44:37us that he had stopped eating ademe
1:44:39because he almost passed out somewhere
1:44:41after eating an ademe sauce. The time
1:44:48he started eating it again, we brought
1:44:50him some ademe from our agribusiness
1:44:54center, which we call Naba. He asked,"
1:44:57Are you sure that no chemicals were put
1:44:59on this? "His wife said no, we
1:45:02confirmed it, he ate it, he had no
1:45:04problems, and ever since, when he wants
1:45:06to eat ademe, he says," Go to Naba and
1:45:09get me some ademe. "" Because this
1:45:16technique of using biological organic
1:45:17inputs is also applied in our
1:45:19agribusiness, we pay attention to the
1:45:21health of our consumers. This center is
1:45:27also located right by the road. You can
1:45:31stop by and see for yourself what we
1:45:32are doing. Uh, thank you very much,
1:45:36thank you for everything you sacrificed
1:45:38to listen to us this morning.
1:45:43>> Thanks also to you, Mr. Eugène Sanda,
1:45:45you are a food security and livelihoods
1:45:47specialist at Compassion International
1:45:49Togo. Thanks also to you, Mr. Paul
1:45:56Gaglot, training manager at Compassion
1:45:58International Togo, and our only pastor
1:46:00on this panel, the agricultural
1:46:02business pastor, Reverend Emmanuel
1:46:04Maikou, not forgetting Andrew Lick, who
1:46:06set the stage for this panel with his
1:46:08intervention. So, through these
1:46:13exchanges, ladies and gentlemen, dear
1:46:15speakers, this morning we understand
1:46:17that the issue of the environment is of
1:46:19great concern to Compassion
1:46:21International Togo. So we must move on
1:46:24to awareness-raising in our churches.
1:46:27Pastor Maikou said so. We must promote
1:46:31the use of renewable energies and allow
1:46:32trees to be at peace so they can
1:46:34provide us with their shade. We must
1:46:39also prioritize small-scale
1:46:41mechanization and encourage sharing and
1:46:43working in cooperatives. So many things
1:46:47have been said, but remember these
1:46:49essential points. Ladies and gentlemen,
1:46:53we have thus reached the end of this
1:46:55very first panel of this 3rd edition of
1:46:57the conference on environmental
1:46:58management and the protection of
1:47:00creation at this 3rd edition. Thank you
1:47:05for the interest you have shown. We
1:47:07will see you again shortly, starting at
1:47:102:20 PM for the second panel. You
1:47:12understand, of course, that it is now
1:47:14time for the break. So, have a good
1:47:17rest, everyone, once again. Can we part
1:47:20ways with a round of applause for the
1:47:22panel members? oho Oh.

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