P1 Michael Jackson, Wade Robson, James Safechuck Hearing September 4, 2014 — Transcript

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4. 0:18with michaeljackson
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8. 0:34I'm so glad you guys are
9. 0:36here okay love you guys really okay I
10. 0:40didn't think I was going to be able to
11. 0:42make it but I was able to make it um um
12. 0:46today to the ropes and safe truck
13. 0:49hearing um I don't know if this is the
14. 0:51first one um but it's the first first of
15. 0:55it's one of the first ones and basically
16. 0:59um it's a hearing to see if this can be
17. 1:03heard by the court um right now we know
18. 1:05that Mitchell beckoff has been the one
19. 1:08that's doing all the estate stuff he is
20. 1:10a probate judge so he is the one that
21. 1:14anything that has to do with the estate
22. 1:17custody um guardianship money bills
23. 1:22debts um budgets um accounting he does
24. 1:27everything that has to do with the
25. 1:29estate so a lot of people were kind of
26. 1:30confused on um on you know the estate
27. 1:36why is Mitchell beckoff handling
28. 1:38everything well Michael is by by the
29. 1:41courts Michael is dead as far as the
30. 1:43state of California is concerned so um
31. 1:47right now everything goes through the
32. 1:49estate which goes through probate and
33. 1:51probate is still open probate has not
34. 1:54closed and probate cannot close into all
35. 1:58the Affairs of the estate have been
36. 2:00handled and when it is closed then
37. 2:03people start getting chunks of money and
38. 2:06and so far uh we know no chunks of money
39. 2:10um I'm not talking about debts bills
40. 2:11living expenses I'm not talking about
41. 2:13the stuff that is
42. 2:15supposedly um provided for in the wheel
43. 2:18or the trust I'm talking about um
44. 2:21inheritance um money to go to Charities
45. 2:24all that stuff has not been disseminated
46. 2:27and I think that's done on purpose and I
47. 2:29believe that's a part of uh the death
48. 2:31Hox not to close the estate um now as
49. 2:35far just real quick as far as Paris
50. 2:37Prince and blanket or as the trust calls
51. 2:40any of them um his children doesn't name
52. 2:44who the children are in the trust it
53. 2:45just says his children um don't get
54. 2:48money till they're 30 or 35 so we don't
55. 2:50have to I wonder what's what they're
56. 2:51going to do when Prince turns 18 I'm not
57. 2:54sure I have to reread the trust but
58. 2:55anyway U Mitchell boff is the judge
59. 2:58handling all affairs
60. 3:00of the Michael Jackson estate so now um
61. 3:04Wade Robison and James safechuck have
62. 3:07filed a um a claim against the estate
63. 3:11now this is not a Civil Trial and this
64. 3:13is not a criminal trial but um uh
65. 3:17gradstein who is the attorney for
66. 3:20Robeson uh safe Chuck and Quincy Jones
67. 3:23isn't that funny um remember Quincy
68. 3:25Jones was suing the estate um because he
69. 3:28wasn't getting his royalty
70. 3:30from um from the Michael Jackson One and
71. 3:35the moral tour and stuff like that I
72. 3:37don't know what happened with that if
73. 3:38that's been closed or not but anyway let
74. 3:40me tell you so I got there about 9:00
75. 3:42and I was oh my God I was late so it was
76. 3:44hurry up and wait because the trial
77. 3:46didn't really start until um around 9:30
78. 3:49the hearing with them um didn't start
79. 3:52Howard wisman many of you guys know uh
80. 3:54he was also Michael part of Michael's
81. 3:56legal team in the 1994
82. 4:00um Jordy Chandler Scandal which ended up
83. 4:02in a settlement uh which just catapulted
84. 4:06into all kinds of problems with Michael
85. 4:08and people thinking if I lie I can get
86. 4:09$20
87. 4:10million which there has been rumors that
88. 4:14the Michael's Insurance paid for it
89. 4:16because we know Lloyds of London when
90. 4:17you're on tour you have to be insured
91. 4:19for everything and um so but the the
92. 4:22terms of that confident uh that
93. 4:24agreement that settlement agreement is
94. 4:26confidential so nobody really knows what
95. 4:28it says in there also um it said that
96. 4:31Michael did not admit to any guilt so
97. 4:35anyway Mr gradstein uh the attorney for
98. 4:38safe Chuck and Robeson he is arguing
99. 4:42that um even though the statute of
100. 4:44limitations has run out three different
101. 4:47ways okay three different ways the
102. 4:49statute of limitation has expired it
103. 4:52expired because as of the earliest
104. 4:55reming uh um he didn't want to say
105. 4:58repress he wanted to call it
106. 5:00compressed that's a word gradstein used
107. 5:03memory um it was March
108. 5:052012 so as of March 2012 you have 60
109. 5:10days to file a claim after you remember
110. 5:13that somebody molested you you have 60
111. 5:15days to file a claim well he didn't file
112. 5:17a claim until the next year which was
113. 5:20May of 2013 but it wasn't officially
114. 5:24claimed until August uh
115. 5:282013 I believe I believe um I'm not sure
116. 5:31if it's 12 or 13 I have to go back and
117. 5:34review the reason why I do is because I
118. 5:36know that the media blit started in
119. 5:392013 um you're welcome Susie in
120. 5:432013 but um the when he first talked to
121. 5:47uh had started having problems or
122. 5:49memorizing or saying that Michael had
123. 5:52conned him or threatened him and his
124. 5:54family that if he ever told that you
125. 5:56know there' be danger to him and his
126. 5:58family um so the 60 days has expired for
127. 6:02him to tell after he remembered um also
128. 6:05the statute of limitations for following
129. 6:07a claim against the estate is one year
130. 6:10um after you are aware that someone died
131. 6:12you have a year and then there is a
132. 6:14seven or 10 year um after you you turn
133. 6:17an adult to file a claim okay and I
134. 6:20think it's s years so all those three
135. 6:22things have expired so the court right
136. 6:25now is deciding whether they could even
137. 6:28bring a case okay so there's a term that
138. 6:31they kept using and the term was um
139. 6:34Equitable estable so if somebody knows
140. 6:37what that means you can look that up I
141. 6:39meant to look it up but I was so busy
142. 6:41trying to promote this that I didn't get
143. 6:42a chance to to look that up Equitable
144. 6:45estole okay well what I understand that
145. 6:48to mean is um even though um um sat the
146. 6:54limitations has um has expired they're
147. 6:58extenda circumstan where you make
148. 7:00exceptions to the rule okay so they kept
149. 7:03talking about this 9103 and they were
150. 7:05doing all these legal these legal
151. 7:07numbers and all this other stuff well
152. 7:10the
153. 7:11estate what what um and that's what the
154. 7:14estate argued okay the estate argued we
155. 7:17shouldn't even be here okay all statutes
156. 7:19of limitations have expired and this is
157. 7:21ridiculous um the gradstein is saying
158. 7:24well you know he didn't remember till he
159. 7:26remembered and um he had this prison he
160. 7:30was imprisoned in his mind with this
161. 7:32compressed memory and this compressed
162. 7:35memory uh just you know all of a sudden
163. 7:38be um unlocked itself uh March 2012 so
164. 7:43when it's March 2012 all heck breaks
165. 7:46loose and he goes crazy and he um
166. 7:49basically remembers all this stuff now
167. 7:51he's s he is suffering emotional damage
168. 7:54and emotional harm well um um that is
169. 7:59only they were saying the estate was
170. 8:01saying that is only good if it's a
171. 8:04criminal case but right now it's not a
172. 8:06criminal case it is a a a claim against
173. 8:09the estate now also what they're arguing
174. 8:12the estate is arguing saying that also
175. 8:14this can't be brought up um in in in
176. 8:17court because um they work for the
177. 8:21estate The Heirs of Michael Jackson they
178. 8:23don't work for Michael Jackson so The
179. 8:26Heirs of Michael Jackson should not be
180. 8:28punished because of the acts of Michael
181. 8:31Jackson so that was another thing saying
182. 8:34look we we we serve the interests of the
183. 8:36Airs of the estate we don't serve the
184. 8:38interest of a man that's deceased okay
185. 8:42so um that was another argument now the
186. 8:44judge did say I will not be making a
187. 8:47ruling today on whether this can be
188. 8:49heard or can't be heard and then there
189. 8:51was the topic of Discovery so the um
190. 8:54plaintiffs right now are saying look we
191. 8:56want to look at all the stuff we want to
192. 8:58see everything so release everything to
193. 9:00me so we can look through it and see is
194. 9:02there anything we can use against
195. 9:05you and right now the estate is saying
196. 9:08we ain't showing you nothing okay find
197. 9:10your own stuff okay so um also um the
198. 9:14plth wants um the estate to admit that
199. 9:18they know of Michael's um sexual abuse
200. 9:20to children and the estate is like we
201. 9:22don't know nothing we never saw her what
202. 9:24are you talking about how are we
203. 9:25supposed to know if Michael abuse
204. 9:26someone so they went back and forth and
205. 9:28they talked about um well what about
206. 9:31Jordy Chandler and what about um what
207. 9:34about um gabin arzo well and then the
208. 9:38name uh John brona came up and how risan
209. 9:41is kind of there as kind of like an
210. 9:43overseer of these two other attorneys
211. 9:46it's a male and a female and I don't
212. 9:48know their names good you know so I
213. 9:50won't even tell you their names and what
214. 9:52what would it matter anyway um um um I
215. 9:56probably can call the courts and get the
216. 9:58spelling of their names
217. 9:59um and I'll post that later if I'm able
218. 10:02to do that um um so anyway anyway so the
219. 10:06estate is saying um look we don't know
220. 10:09what Michael Jackson did and then they
221. 10:11said well John brona has been Michael's
222. 10:13attorney forever so John brona should
223. 10:15know something and that's when Howard
224. 10:17wisman got up and defended John brona
225. 10:19and said look back in those two cases in
226. 10:23'94 and in 20 uh 2005 number one it was
227. 10:28a settlement in which he was a party to
228. 10:30and he said and Michael did not admit
229. 10:32any guilt okay in that and number two
230. 10:34was fully acquitted Michael was fully
231. 10:36acquitted no wrong doing so what are you
232. 10:38talking about you know and they said
233. 10:40yeah we know there's been accusations
234. 10:41but none of them have been able to be
235. 10:43proven yet now one thing I didn't think
236. 10:45that they brought up um they they
237. 10:47brought up was um um it number one it
238. 10:52was for money they didn't talk about the
239. 10:54merits of the case which is did Michael
240. 10:56molest these people and do you need to
241. 10:58give me some money for it
242. 10:59um they tried to bring in something
243. 11:01about U Michael's businesses you know
244. 11:04that they were at fault because Michael
245. 11:06had businesses and I guess they tried to
246. 11:09use the there was a law back in the
247. 11:11early 1900s it was because a boxer by
248. 11:14the name of John Johnson um um he
249. 11:18brought women over and also um uh what's
250. 11:22his name not Chubby Checker but um the
251. 11:25guitarist Johnny Be Good um that you
252. 11:28cannot bring people over state lines to
253. 11:31have sex with them they didn't bring up
254. 11:33that law but I think they were trying to
255. 11:34throw that law in there um we're talking
256. 11:37about Chuck Barry okay so um the judge
257. 11:41kind of threw both of those out and goes
258. 11:43well I don't understand the businesses I
259. 11:44I just don't get these businesses you
260. 11:46know why would they have something to do
261. 11:48with it so that was kind of tossed to
262. 11:50the side um will they will it come up
263. 11:52again I don't know people what they do
264. 11:54in lawsuits they find prior cases and
265. 11:57they call those presences to where uh Mr
266. 12:00judge you should hear this court case
267. 12:03because uh number one um um this person
268. 12:07heard it and this was the result of this
269. 12:09case and it was a very similar cases and
270. 12:11there was something about a John R and
271. 12:13somebody who died and they tried to sue
272. 12:15the estate but it was unsuccessful so I
273. 12:17don't know why they brought it up
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