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OpenAI DevDay - What Actually Matters for Builders — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Okay, so open AI had their Dev Day
  2. 0:02yesterday and there are a number of sort
  3. 0:05of really interesting points in there.
  4. 0:06What I want to do in this video is go
  5. 0:08through what they announced and give you
  6. 0:11my honest take on some of the different
  7. 0:13things that are there. I actually think
  8. 0:14there were some really interesting
  9. 0:16announcements not only for open AI
  10. 0:18themselves but also about how people are
  11. 0:20thinking at the frontier model labs
  12. 0:22themselves. All right, so first up is
  13. 0:25dots. So what actually is a dot? It's
  14. 0:28basically an always-on agent that lives
  15. 0:31inside your chat GPT or at least chat
  16. 0:34GPT and Codex for now. There were some
  17. 0:37really interesting things though where
  18. 0:38you can sort of text it, you can call it
  19. 0:41and stuff like that. They talk about
  20. 0:43that it has its own computer in the
  21. 0:45cloud, its own browser. It can write and
  22. 0:48test code for you. It uses the same
  23. 0:51plugins that you've already connected to
  24. 0:53your account. And all those sort of
  25. 0:55plugins and apps and connectors, there
  26. 0:58are thousands of them there. One of the
  27. 1:00cool things here is you can add it to
  28. 1:01Slack. So in many ways you could kind of
  29. 1:04think of open AI basically covering off
  30. 1:07what anyone else has done in the
  31. 1:10personal agent space. So I think the big
  32. 1:13thing here is that this is their first
  33. 1:16or at least their more substantial foray
  34. 1:19into personal agents. So the idea here
  35. 1:23of where it can basically do things for
  36. 1:26you, it can be probably a lot more
  37. 1:27proactive than just reactive. Now it's
  38. 1:31going to be interesting to see how that
  39. 1:33proactiveness actually plays out. Is
  40. 1:36this just a bunch of sort of cron jobs
  41. 1:38going on underneath or is there
  42. 1:40something a bit more to it? Obviously a
  43. 1:43lot of the ideas for this have come from
  44. 1:46things like Muse, like Grokbot, like
  45. 1:49Instinct, which is a startup that is
  46. 1:51very hot at the moment in San Francisco.
  47. 1:53It's just raised about a billion dollars
  48. 1:55on a $10 billion valuation for their
  49. 1:57first round.
  50. 1:59And of course, the other two personal
  51. 2:00ones here would be Open Claw and Hermes.
  52. 2:04And don't forget, while OpenAI didn't
  53. 2:06buy Open Claw directly, they did hire
  54. 2:09the creator of that. And you can imagine
  55. 2:11he's had a lot of input on where dots is
  56. 2:14actually going and how that should
  57. 2:15actually work. So, the interesting thing
  58. 2:17here is that this seems both be a pitch
  59. 2:19that this is your personal agent, but
  60. 2:21also perhaps more than your personal
  61. 2:23agent. They talk about the you give it
  62. 2:25responsibility. So, rather than just
  63. 2:27sort of go and do a task for me, like
  64. 2:30book a flight or something, this is
  65. 2:32going to sit on top of things and manage
  66. 2:34and monitor things, whether that's like
  67. 2:36incoming bug reports, whether that's
  68. 2:39testing fixes, whether that's doing a
  69. 2:41whole bunch of different things. Now,
  70. 2:43the interesting thing is that this is
  71. 2:44actually powered by Astra. So, it's
  72. 2:47powered by the top-level model that
  73. 2:49they've got there. And it does seem, in
  74. 2:51a very sort of Open Claw / Hermes kind
  75. 2:54of way, that you're kind of expected to
  76. 2:56treat this as your chief of staff. Now,
  77. 2:59the usage model for this is really kind
  78. 3:01of interesting and worth understanding
  79. 3:02as well. OpenAI said that your dot is
  80. 3:05included in your plan. So, talking to it
  81. 3:08doesn't consume your token usage sort of
  82. 3:11stuff. But, anything that it kind of
  83. 3:13does on your behalf does. So, a dot
  84. 3:16operates on top of your ChatGPT and your
  85. 3:19Codex threads, but the threads that it
  86. 3:21drives for you in those particular apps,
  87. 3:25so in its own computer, it looks like
  88. 3:27they're going to be threads that do
  89. 3:28count to your token usage. So,
  90. 3:30basically, talking to it is free, but
  91. 3:33the work that it does for you is not
  92. 3:35going to be free. I can still see that
  93. 3:37this is going to be a huge win for
  94. 3:39people who perhaps have never tried out
  95. 3:42Open Claw, never tried Hermes. And in
  96. 3:45many ways, Google tried to do this with
  97. 3:47Gemini Spark after Google I/O, but it
  98. 3:50seems to me that that hasn't taken off
  99. 3:52as much as they would have liked,
  100. 3:54perhaps in large degree because of the
  101. 3:56models that were actually running it and
  102. 3:59what it actually had access to. You
  103. 4:01could imagine, too, that the actual dots
  104. 4:03or the dot that works for you is going
  105. 4:06to be a large part of the OpenAI
  106. 4:08hardware that supposedly they're
  107. 4:11bringing out a product either late this
  108. 4:13year or next year sometime. And so, if
  109. 4:16that product is like people have
  110. 4:17pictured where it's some kind of, you
  111. 4:19know, hockey puck or something like that
  112. 4:21that you can then talk to, that you can
  113. 4:23then interact with, you could imagine
  114. 4:25that that is something then that people
  115. 4:26are going to basically put on their
  116. 4:27desk, have it sitting there on all the
  117. 4:30time, being able to talk to their dot.
  118. 4:33And if they feel the usage for that is
  119. 4:34free for the actual conversations, but
  120. 4:37they're just getting billed for anytime
  121. 4:39this thing goes off and does something
  122. 4:40for you, I can see that being appealing
  123. 4:42to a lot of people who don't have a plus
  124. 4:44account, don't have a Teams account,
  125. 4:46don't have a pro account currently. And
  126. 4:48like I've said in a number of videos, if
  127. 4:50you're watching my videos, you're
  128. 4:51definitely one of the earlier adopters.
  129. 4:54I think some of the real huge growth
  130. 4:55that we're going to see over the next
  131. 4:57couple of years with these particular
  132. 4:59companies and with AI itself is just the
  133. 5:02normies or the sort of masses are going
  134. 5:05to come along and start using these
  135. 5:06things in their day-to-day life. All
  136. 5:08right, so let's look at some of the
  137. 5:09developer stuff that they launched. So,
  138. 5:12that brings us to sort of agents API.
  139. 5:14And this is basically their managed
  140. 5:16agent runtime. So, just like we've got
  141. 5:18Claude managed agents, we've got a
  142. 5:20number of companies that are doing this
  143. 5:22and I've made videos about these
  144. 5:23specific things. You basically get a
  145. 5:25harness, hosting, memory, sort of
  146. 5:28multi-agent controls, and now they've
  147. 5:31added computer use to that as well. I do
  148. 5:33wonder how much is this a me-too
  149. 5:35product, basically where they just don't
  150. 5:37want to lose market share to Anthropic
  151. 5:39who's been offering their Claude managed
  152. 5:42agents since much earlier this year. And
  153. 5:45And interesting that this does seem to
  154. 5:46be the same stack that powers Codex and
  155. 5:49dots. Just like the Claude managed
  156. 5:52agents is using a lot of the same stack
  157. 5:55that powers Claude code and co-work. So,
  158. 5:57the way I think about this one is that
  159. 5:59there are a lot of companies out there
  160. 6:00that are using the open AI models,
  161. 6:02whether that's directly, whether that's
  162. 6:03through AWS or Microsoft. This gives
  163. 6:06them a way to build vertical harnesses
  164. 6:09so that an agent for insurance claims,
  165. 6:12an agent for sort of contract reviews,
  166. 6:15all of those things are going to be
  167. 6:16possible. And it's basically going to be
  168. 6:18running on a runtime that's kind of been
  169. 6:20rubber stamped by open AI as to what
  170. 6:23they're saying is the best way for
  171. 6:25running their own agents.
  172. 6:27The second big developer news here was
  173. 6:29the whole decisions API. And I kind of
  174. 6:32feel this one really wasn't a surprise.
  175. 6:34I've made comments before that probably
  176. 6:36most of the frontier labs have Jev
  177. 6:38models in development after seeing just
  178. 6:41the reactions to the whole idea of a
  179. 6:44decision model. And yet again, like I've
  180. 6:46said in a couple of my videos, it does
  181. 6:48seem that these people are settling on
  182. 6:49the name of decision models with open AI
  183. 6:52actually calling their one the decisions
  184. 6:55API. The idea here is that this is a
  185. 6:57Luna model. So, again, you don't need a
  186. 6:59huge model to do this. This is something
  187. 7:01that we've looked at in my videos with
  188. 7:03the open models, etc. Certainly, Luna is
  189. 7:05actually a bigger size than a lot of the
  190. 7:07open models that I've shown. And pretty
  191. 7:09much the idea here is very similar to
  192. 7:11Jev. You've got a model, you give it a
  193. 7:13predefined set of options, and it
  194. 7:15basically sort of picks one out.
  195. 7:17Interestingly, they are launching with
  196. 7:18image support. And I kind of feel this
  197. 7:21is a no-brainer here. You don't need a
  198. 7:22big model to do it, and you don't need a
  199. 7:24huge amount of training. Open AI didn't
  200. 7:27really even hide that. They said on
  201. 7:28stage, it's the Luna model. And I think
  202. 7:31for a lot of organizations that aren't
  203. 7:33going to want to add another new
  204. 7:34company, aren't going to want to run
  205. 7:36something like this on prem, this just
  206. 7:38becomes a no-brainer for them to
  207. 7:40basically use the open AI version of
  208. 7:42this. Now, another big developer
  209. 7:44announcement that they had there was the
  210. 7:46new model. Now, almost every year we get
  211. 7:49a new model and stuff like that. And at
  212. 7:51first, my gut reaction was like, "Okay,
  213. 7:53GPT 6.1 Soul." Remember, Astra is the
  214. 7:57really big one. Soul is their version of
  215. 7:58sort of Opus. My first reaction was
  216. 8:01like, "Okay, so what? Does this really
  217. 8:03kind of matter here?" But, it was
  218. 8:05interesting that just like Opus 5.5
  219. 8:08seems to have improved massively on
  220. 8:10Fable. They're saying that GPT 6.1 Soul
  221. 8:13is actually getting up there on par with
  222. 8:16the Astra level here. And the other
  223. 8:18thing here is that this is like a fifth
  224. 8:20of the actual Astra costs. So, it's $2
  225. 8:24per million input tokens, $10 per
  226. 8:27million output tokens, and then
  227. 8:29amazingly, only 10 cents for caching
  228. 8:31that input. So, when you compare that to
  229. 8:34Astra, which is $10 in, $50 out, this is
  230. 8:38an 80% saving for a model that's
  231. 8:40supposed to be on par with that Astra
  232. 8:43model. Now, it does seem that just like
  233. 8:45with Fable, there are certain kinds of
  234. 8:47things where if you're maxing out the
  235. 8:49thinking on Astra or on Fable, the
  236. 8:52second tier of models is going to be
  237. 8:54just slightly not as good there. The
  238. 8:57other thing that I thought was
  239. 8:57fascinating here was the actual price
  240. 8:59for caching. So, it's a 95% discount.
  241. 9:03And we know that sort of agents reread
  242. 9:05the same context over and over again,
  243. 9:08the system prompt files, the
  244. 9:10conversation so far. So, for agent
  245. 9:13workloads, the cash price is going to be
  246. 9:15the real price in here. And on a
  247. 9:17personal note, I noticed this yesterday
  248. 9:18with something that I was working on,
  249. 9:20where I'd done 250 million tokens of
  250. 9:22using the Opus 5.5 model, yet about 96%
  251. 9:27of all the tokens were actually already
  252. 9:29cached. So, the price wasn't anywhere
  253. 9:31near what you would think it would be if
  254. 9:34you were talking about 250 million
  255. 9:35tokens there. So, out of this, I think
  256. 9:38if you're running agents on OpenAI, Soul
  257. 9:406.1 is probably going to become your new
  258. 9:43default model there. All right, next up
  259. 9:45that brings us to Codex. And there are a
  260. 9:47few things that people have been asking
  261. 9:49here for. So, Codex on Linux, multiple
  262. 9:51folders in one project, Codex on your
  263. 9:54phone. Sam Altman basically announced
  264. 9:56those very quickly even before they got
  265. 9:58to probably some of the interesting
  266. 9:59things in here. Big one for me here is
  267. 10:02that whole idea of Codex in the cloud.
  268. 10:04So, this definitely enables you to
  269. 10:06basically start a task on your phone,
  270. 10:08pick it up in your browser, run with it
  271. 10:10over a lot of different surfaces. And it
  272. 10:13was kind of funny in Romaine's demo for
  273. 10:15that being literally like, "Okay,
  274. 10:17rewrite the entire back end in Rust."
  275. 10:19and then just sort of leaving it and
  276. 10:21walking away. Interestingly, they've
  277. 10:23also brought voice into the app and to
  278. 10:26the CLI. So, this is their bidirectional
  279. 10:28audio powered by GPT Live. So, it's not
  280. 10:31just doing sort of dictation.
  281. 10:33Unfortunately, they had some hiccups
  282. 10:34with that on stage. But, I guess if
  283. 10:37you're like myself or most people who
  284. 10:38are using these agents nowadays, you're
  285. 10:40talking to them and not typing to them
  286. 10:43most of the time anyway. There are also
  287. 10:45some nice things that they showed around
  288. 10:47computer use and allowing Codex to
  289. 10:49actually use that, whether that's for
  290. 10:51sort of getting app shots as it's
  291. 10:52actually making something for you, and
  292. 10:55some nice stuff around security of where
  293. 10:57it can basically scan for
  294. 10:58vulnerabilities and prepare fixes for
  295. 11:01you to review as it's actually going
  296. 11:03through your code base. All right, so
  297. 11:05next up was one that I think is really
  298. 11:07kind of interesting and this was
  299. 11:08ultrafast. So, this is Astra at eight
  300. 11:11times the speed of the normal API for
  301. 11:14six times the price. Now, they're
  302. 11:16claiming that this can do around 300
  303. 11:18tokens per second. I'm guessing this is
  304. 11:20basically the running on Cerebras
  305. 11:23version of these models. And as we're
  306. 11:26all starting to see with running these
  307. 11:28agents, these agents can take hours. So,
  308. 11:31I guess if you've got the budget to pay
  309. 11:33for this, being able to get something
  310. 11:35done at a really fast pace may be worth
  311. 11:38it. I'm not totally convinced though how
  312. 11:39much people will actually pay for the
  313. 11:42the six times the price API. They
  314. 11:45mentioned that this is out on Astra and
  315. 11:47coming to Soul very soon. I guess if you
  316. 11:49were to take the Soul 6.1 at six times
  317. 11:52the price, it's only slightly more
  318. 11:55expensive than the normal speed Astra
  319. 11:57was before. So, like that, maybe it is a
  320. 11:59good deal. Let me know in the comments.
  321. 12:01I can certainly see that maybe there are
  322. 12:02people that are quite happy to pay that
  323. 12:04premium to get the tokens a lot faster,
  324. 12:07etc. And it is probably going to make
  325. 12:09sense where latency is the product. So,
  326. 12:12for anything that you're doing sort of
  327. 12:14live editing or interactive demos or
  328. 12:18where there's actually a user sitting
  329. 12:19there waiting for something to happen,
  330. 12:22then those tokens being that much faster
  331. 12:24probably is going to be worth it. And
  332. 12:26this kind of ties us into one of the
  333. 12:28things that I think is probably
  334. 12:29controversial that they announced, that
  335. 12:31there's a new Pro 500 plan. And as I was
  336. 12:35watching this, I only kind of twigged
  337. 12:37what it was as they were sort of rolling
  338. 12:39out that there were Pro 200, Pro 100
  339. 12:42plans as well. So, this is a 500 being
  340. 12:46$500
  341. 12:47per month here. And this is going to
  342. 12:49have 25 times the usage of Plus. It's
  343. 12:53also going to have access to ultra-fast
  344. 12:55in ChatGPT and Codex. And interestingly,
  345. 12:58that usage is going to carry over into
  346. 13:00partner apps. So, that's something
  347. 13:02that's going to be interesting to see.
  348. 13:04Now, they reopened the Pro 200 plan. So,
  349. 13:07the $200 plan, they actually closed that
  350. 13:09after Astra for a while. I think they
  351. 13:11just didn't want people just hammering
  352. 13:13it and stuff like that. And the sad
  353. 13:15thing here is and the thing that perhaps
  354. 13:16is going to anger a lot of people is
  355. 13:18that this has gone from being 20 times
  356. 13:21Plus down to 10 times Plus here. Now, we
  357. 13:25know that usage limits are something
  358. 13:26that kind of fluctuates anyway, so it's
  359. 13:29going to be interesting to see how this
  360. 13:31actually plays out. And does that drive
  361. 13:35a lot of people who were paying for the
  362. 13:37200 to move to the $500 plan, or does it
  363. 13:40have the opposite effect and drive more
  364. 13:42people to go over to Anthropic's plan?
  365. 13:45It does seem at this point that the
  366. 13:46pricing is kind of steering you, and
  367. 13:48that really now if you're going to go
  368. 13:50for the sort of top-tier models, you're
  369. 13:53going to have to be paying quite a lot
  370. 13:55of money to do that. All right, so the
  371. 13:56third part of the keynote was about
  372. 13:58helping you to find customers. And here
  373. 14:01basically Sam Altman was pretty candid
  374. 14:03that they've tried different versions of
  375. 14:05these kind of things before with mixed
  376. 14:08results. And just to recap those, we've
  377. 14:11seen a bunch of these things. They first
  378. 14:12started out with ChatGPT plugins back in
  379. 14:15March '23. They had GPTs for a while
  380. 14:18from sort of November '23. They had the
  381. 14:21GPT store. They then went and sort of
  382. 14:24switched off all the original plugins.
  383. 14:26Around this time last year they
  384. 14:28announced apps in ChatGPT and the whole
  385. 14:30sort of apps SDK. And I don't know about
  386. 14:33for you, but I haven't really seen apps
  387. 14:35take off here at all. So it does seem to
  388. 14:38me that this is something that's still
  389. 14:39definitely a work in progress. And I
  390. 14:41think Sam Altman's statement of saying
  391. 14:43that they'd had mixed results with what
  392. 14:45they've launched is in many ways an
  393. 14:47understatement here. So what have they
  394. 14:50got new? So I would say the big and most
  395. 14:52interesting piece here is the whole
  396. 14:54sign-in with ChatGPT, where users can
  397. 14:57sign in to your app and use the tokens
  398. 15:00that come with their ChatGPT plan on
  399. 15:03your particular app. And I think the
  400. 15:05argument here is that that allows you to
  401. 15:07basically ship sort of like a free core
  402. 15:10app. That because you're no longer
  403. 15:12having to pay for the inference of
  404. 15:14tokens, you can sort of give people a
  405. 15:17taste, and then you can upsell to other
  406. 15:19parts of it without it costing you a
  407. 15:21fortune. So I think this really opens up
  408. 15:23the door to a bunch of new freemium
  409. 15:25products that we'll see that use this
  410. 15:28kind of thing. The challenge is going to
  411. 15:30be, though, do we very soon see a
  412. 15:32sign-in with Claude? And then are sites
  413. 15:35going to basically have to allow people
  414. 15:37to sign in with Claude or to sign in
  415. 15:39with ChatGPT or to sign in with Gemini?
  416. 15:42All these ideas are trying to do what
  417. 15:44the Facebook login button did sort of
  418. 15:46back 15-plus years ago. But, we don't
  419. 15:49just have one major player here. We've
  420. 15:50actually got a few different players.
  421. 15:52It's also not clear what are you
  422. 15:53actually offering if someone comes to
  423. 15:55your site and they've only got a free
  424. 15:57ChatGPT plugin.
  425. 15:59Uh you then sort of stopping their
  426. 16:01inference halfway through a question or
  427. 16:04halfway through some particular task and
  428. 16:06having to tell them, "Hey, you should go
  429. 16:09and pay for ChatGPT as opposed to you
  430. 16:11should pay for my product on my site."
  431. 16:14All right, next up a plugin extension.
  432. 16:16So, these are basically full apps that
  433. 16:17run inside ChatGPT and Code X. Figma and
  434. 16:21Adobe both showing versions of their
  435. 16:24products running in there. And
  436. 16:25supposedly ChatGPT is going to suggest
  437. 16:27your plugin in the middle of a
  438. 16:29conversation. I think we're still in the
  439. 16:31same place as last year where we don't
  440. 16:33know how it's going to suggest that I
  441. 16:35use Adobe Photoshop over some other
  442. 16:38hyper cooler image editor that happens
  443. 16:41to be in their directory as well. Is
  444. 16:43that going to come down to whichever
  445. 16:44developer pays OpenAI the most? I don't
  446. 16:47know. I guess we'll see with time. They
  447. 16:48also launched an OpenAI marketplace with
  448. 16:51a bunch of different partners including
  449. 16:52people like Code Rabbit, Notion, etc.
  450. 16:55And I thought it was kind of funny that
  451. 16:57Sam Altman actually made the point that
  452. 16:59because Base Ten, who's an inference
  453. 17:01provider, is one of these partners in
  454. 17:03the marketplace, you will be able to
  455. 17:05access open-source models in the
  456. 17:08marketplace. My bet is that's something
  457. 17:10that you're not going to see on Claude
  458. 17:12anytime soon in any way, shape, or form.
  459. 17:15So, overall I would say that the event
  460. 17:17was actually very interesting. There
  461. 17:18were lots of things showing sort of
  462. 17:20ideas of where things are going. I do
  463. 17:22think that things like the agents API is
  464. 17:24going to be something that a lot of
  465. 17:26people are going to use in organizations
  466. 17:28to make their hosted agents, if they're
  467. 17:30already an open AI customer. I do think
  468. 17:32it's going to be really interesting to
  469. 17:33see how dots plays out. And 3 months
  470. 17:37from now, are 10 million people using it
  471. 17:39every day? Or is it something that
  472. 17:40people have just basically added onto
  473. 17:42the side? And it could be that dots
  474. 17:44becomes a new part of co-pilot or of
  475. 17:46some kind of enterprise apps, which is
  476. 17:48something that they actually talked
  477. 17:50about making sort of work versions of
  478. 17:52these kind of helpers as well. Anyway,
  479. 17:54let me know in the comments what you
  480. 17:56thought was interesting there. I know a
  481. 17:57lot of people are going to bag on open
  482. 17:59AI and criticize everything that they
  483. 18:01did. And if you've listened to the end
  484. 18:03here, thank you very much cuz I know
  485. 18:04this video is probably not going to do
  486. 18:06very well. But I do feel it is very
  487. 18:08important to see what they're thinking
  488. 18:10about how things are going to play out.
  489. 18:13We know that the all you can eat buffet
  490. 18:15of tokens cannot go on forever as costs
  491. 18:18go up. We know that lots of people are
  492. 18:20trying to find the killer app for AI so
  493. 18:23that you can charge a premium and not
  494. 18:25just focus on selling tokens all the
  495. 18:27time. And I think open AI's dev day is
  496. 18:30always interesting to get a sort of
  497. 18:32state of play of where things actually
  498. 18:35are both for consumers, but for us as
  499. 18:38developers as well. So, anyway, as
  500. 18:40always, if you like the video, please
  501. 18:42click like and subscribe and I will talk
  502. 18:43to you in the next video. Bye for now.

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