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0:00Oh.
0:01Zen mondo is likely the original form
0:03of coaching.
0:05Yeah.
0:06I think what truly remains in a
0:08person's heart are the questions. Zen
0:13questions pose things you could never
0:15reach with your current common sense or
0:17beliefs. The importance of questions
0:25that aren't your own is what's packed
0:26into coaching. Instead of relying on
0:36past thinking, be open-minded to new
0:38realizations, ideas, and information.
0:47Setting your own boundaries, having
0:49adventures, and taking challenges helps
0:51the brain grow rapidly.
0:53Exactly. And even while you're sleeping
0:55.
0:57Ideas that float up, things you kind of
0:59want to try. How much can you follow
1:02that vague sense of discomfort?
1:06Ultimately, that leads to what you
1:08really want to do. Today, we are joined
1:15by Takaki Minamiyama for a retreat
1:17we're holding in Izu Kogen, and as part
1:20of that, we asked him to film for our
1:22YouTube channel, so he's here today,
1:25Takaki Minamiyama. Nice to meet you.
1:27Thank you for having me. Looking
1:29forward to it. Speaking of
1:32Minamiyama-kun, you've appeared on our
1:34YouTube channel many times, and I found
1:37it so fascinating. Things actually go
1:41well if you just leave them alone, but
1:43the more you overthink, the more you
1:45get stuck in a rut. Even though better
1:51ideas come when you're relaxed, I kept
1:52trying too hard and couldn't even come
1:54up with anything good. But after
2:00listening to your talks, I've started
2:02to gradually recognize when my body is
2:04tense or when I have certain habits of
2:06thought, and I truly feel that's thanks
2:08to our conversations. Thank you very
2:13much. And there are even more areas
2:16where you are an expert, Minamiyama-kun
2:18. I'd like to ask you about those today
2:22, so I'm looking forward to it.
2:25My pleasure. You originally started out
2:29with coaching, didn't you?
2:31Yeah. That's right. Coaching is my main
2:33profession, and even now, I see about
2:35six or seven people a day, though I
2:37don't take general applications. You're
2:39always doing coaching, aren't you?
2:40Yeah.
2:45What is coaching originally about?
2:47Well, it was actually developed in
2:49America at first. It started in the
2:52sports world around the 1980s in
2:54America because there was a need to
2:55lead people.
2:59But when I looked into it, I wondered
3:00if it really started in America.
3:03Yeah.
3:05For example, things like compasses,
3:07which were said to be cutting-edge
3:09during the Industrial Revolution,
3:12are historically portrayed as if
3:14Britain created them. Yes.
3:17When you look at history,
3:18surprisingly, in Southeast Asia and
3:20other Asian regions,
3:22things like compasses already existed.
3:24Wow.
3:25Europeans brought them back during the
3:27Age of Discovery and used that
3:29cutting-edge information to spark the
3:31British Revolution. And then it moved
3:34to America; that's the sequence of
3:36events.
3:37Yeah.
3:37Thinking about it, I felt that coaching
3:39probably isn't something that
3:41originated in America either. So, as I
3:43traced it back,
3:44to my surprise, in Japan,
3:47something like coaching already existed
3:49.
3:49Even though they say the cutting-edge
3:51coaching was created 30 years ago,
3:53there has been something like it for
3:55thousands of years.
3:56Yeah. Yes.
3:57Well, what is that, you ask?
3:59It's Zen Mondo (Zen dialogues).
4:01Oh.
4:02Zen Mondo is likely the original form
4:04of what we call coaching today.
4:07Yeah.
4:07I think that's it.
4:08Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I realized that
4:10if we unravel the Zen dialogues that
4:12the Japanese have been practicing, we
4:13could see the true form of coaching.
4:15Oh!
4:15And it started to become clear to me.
4:17Eh?
4:18I've been practicing it for a few years
4:20now, and essentially, I give absolutely
4:22no advice at all.
4:23Oh.
4:24No teaching either.
4:25Yeah.
4:25Basically, I only use questions.
4:27This is exactly the same approach as
4:29the Zen dialogues from thousands of
4:31years ago.
4:31Wait a minute. Weren't those Zen
4:34dialogues originally something monks
4:36practiced among themselves?
4:38That is correct. It was something
4:40practiced
4:40between a master and a disciple.
4:42Yeah. Oh, it was nothing but questions.
4:44They only asked questions. And they
4:46were incredibly strange questions.
4:48Uh, for example,
4:49Uh, regular questions you learn in
4:50coaching school are like, "What is your
4:52goal?""
4:52When you achieve that goal, what do you
4:54see? What do you hear? What do you feel
4:56?" Those kinds of questions. It’s not
4:58like that at all. Yeah. Zen koan
5:00questions are things that, based on
5:02your current common sense,
5:04or the beliefs you hold, you would
5:06never be able to reach an answer to.
5:09Yeah. Oh.
5:09For instance, the sound of one hand.
5:11Hmm.
5:12There’s this thing, and if you ask
5:13what it is—
5:14If you clap both hands, there is a
5:16sound.
5:17Yeah.
5:17Yeah.
5:18So, what is the sound of one hand? That
5:20was the question. I don’t get that.
5:22No idea. Yeah. At this point, the
5:24master asks the disciple this question,
5:26and then what happens? The master tells
5:28them to go home.
5:29Yeah.
5:30You might wonder what it means to ask a
5:32question like that and then tell them
5:33to go home, but the disciple then keeps
5:35that question in their heart forever.
5:37Yeah. It teaches that if you want to
5:41reach an original, essential answer,
5:42you cannot think within your current
5:44common sense.
5:47The master wanted to teach that you
5:48can't arrive at the answer if you think
5:50using your own beliefs, common sense,
5:52or the personality you’ve built up in
5:55the past.
5:55Yeah.
5:56So, it seems they intentionally kept
5:58asking questions like these.
5:59Yeah. That’s why I thought this Zen
6:03approach is amazing—that what stays
6:05in a person’s heart forever isn't
6:07what they were taught, but the
6:08questions they were asked.
6:11That’s amazing.
6:12It happens often. That moment when you
6:16realize, "Oh, so that’s what the
6:18teacher meant," or when you finally
6:20understand a question you didn't get
6:22back then—those things stay with you
6:24for decades.
6:27People think coaching has to produce
6:28results on the spot, but it’s fine if
6:30it takes ten years. Oh, thirty.
6:33Because that question will remain in
6:35that person's heart for years.
6:37Ever since I applied the Zen philosophy
6:39that it's not just about that single
6:41moment to my own coaching, I’ve been
6:43able to coach professionals as well.
6:46Yeah. It really is amazing. You know,
6:50in this world, coaching is often seen
6:52as something that quickly guides you
6:54and gets you to your goal right away,
6:56right? Yeah.
6:58But the idea that a single question can
7:00stay in your heart for a lifetime...
7:02Yeah.
7:02That’s so deep.
7:03It really is, isn't it?
7:05But humans just love to give advice
7:06right away, don't they? Well,
7:08yeah,
7:08how does that work?
7:09Well, it's fine, really. Advice itself
7:12can certainly be necessary in certain
7:14situations, and there are, of course,
7:16people who need advice. For instance,
7:18students often can't judge things based
7:21on their own experience without advice,
7:23so teaching and advice are definitely
7:25necessary. However, when you look at
7:32the essential functions of the brain,
7:34when a person grows their brain—well,
7:36there are many ways to put it—one key
7:39is "random exploration." This random
7:41exploration involves taking action
7:43without knowing the answer. Oh, so that
7:45means not being given advice. Taking
7:47action even when you don't know if it's
7:49the right path. This is one way to grow
7:52the brain, and research shows that
7:54people who most frequently encounter
7:56coincidences or synchronicities engage
7:59in an incredible amount of this random
8:01exploration.
8:03Huh. And for this random exploration to
8:07happen, when you need to act despite
8:09not knowing, insights that emerge from
8:11within—triggered by questions rather
8:13than advice, which allow alpha waves to
8:15surface—are likely to trigger a
8:17better autonomic nervous system
8:19response, or so the hypothesis goes.
8:23Huh. But you know, there are various
8:26research findings, and in the world of
8:28coaching, more people are becoming wary
8:30of the demand to set goals at the very
8:32beginning. If you can already see your
8:36direction and the path forward, that's
8:38great, but if you set a "correct" goal
8:40for someone who can't see the direction
8:42, their brain's growth ends right there
8:44. The result of setting a goal too
8:46rigidly is that rather than growing,
8:48the brain actually atrophies,
8:50as we are starting to learn. In other
8:52words, the brain is naturally meant to
8:54grow through random exploration—oh,
8:56I'm sorry. I'm jumping around a bit,
8:58but as for why that is,
9:00when you dig into that,
9:01the answer is almost always found in
9:03history.
9:03Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
9:06In the first place,
9:07humans, yeah.
9:08migrated from Africa.
9:09Yes.
9:10This is something we've come to
9:11understand historically.
9:12Yeah.
9:13That means it’s highly likely that
9:15humans get a dopamine rush or feel
9:17motivated when moving or seeing a new
9:19world. Since we’ve migrated, in the
9:22process, a certain gene
9:24Yeah.
9:25was found in the body. Well, it wasn't
9:27humans at first, but in medaka fish.
9:29A gene was discovered, and it turns out
9:31it’s related to random exploration,
9:33which equals brain growth, though it
9:35has a bit of a lame name.
9:37It’s called the "adventure gene."
9:39That...
9:40You’d want something cooler, right?
9:42Yeah.
9:42So, they removed that adventure gene
9:44from the medaka.
9:45Yes.
9:46Then, the medaka stopped moving and
9:48just withered away.
9:49Oh. That’s strange. So, they wondered
9:51if this might exist in humans, too. And
9:53it turns out, humans have the adventure
9:55gene too. In other words, people who do
9:57random exploration, connecting various
10:00dots and following their own ideas, are
10:02, in a sense, activating the adventure
10:04gene. Historically speaking, that’s
10:06how humans migrated, adapted to
10:08environments, and achieved what we call
10:10a secure environment. So, it leads to
10:12the conclusion that maybe using this
10:14adventure gene helps the brain grow.
10:16Yeah. But the moment you don’t use
10:18this adventure gene, don’t do random
10:20exploration, and just say, "Here is
10:22your target, this is the task," the
10:24brain stops growing. That’s why,
10:26surprisingly, looking at various
10:27research results—including robot
10:29studies—between a robot given a goal
10:31and
10:32a robot allowed to explore randomly,
10:34the one that reached the goal faster
10:36was the one doing random exploration.
10:39Random exploration means not relying on
10:41your past thinking,
10:43Yeah. but being open-minded toward new
10:47insights, new ideas, and new
10:48information.
10:51So, group A was given the directive to
10:53just aim for the goal.
10:54Yeah.
10:55To just seek the "correct answer," the
10:56goal. Group B was told to explore
10:58something new. They were told to
10:59perform random exploration. So, group A
11:01only seeks the correct answer, so they
11:02stay in similar territory...
11:03Yeah. Yeah.
11:04They say it keeps going back to
11:05information it already knows. But what
11:07was interesting about robot B is that
11:08it bumped into something once.
11:09Yeah.
11:10So, this is now a past experience.
11:12Yeah. Therefore, it can't bump into
11:13that same spot again.
11:14So, it has to go somewhere else next.
11:16Haha.
11:17And since that spot also becomes a
11:18known experience, it has to go back and
11:19head somewhere else again.
11:20Yeah.
11:21As a result of repeating this, there
11:22are no more places left to go. Because
11:24it's been to everywhere it has prior
11:25experience with. So, as a result of
11:26constantly exploring new areas,
11:28it reaches the goal incredibly smoothly
11:29.
11:29Right, right, right, right.
11:31This is,
11:32yeah.
11:32what researchers these days believe is
11:34the moment the brain creates ideas and
11:37encounters solutions.
11:39Huh.
11:41Yeah. So, if you don't set your own
11:43limits and keep adventuring or taking
11:45on challenges, your brain keeps growing
11:47, right?
11:48Exactly. And what's more, while you're
11:50sleeping.
11:50Huh?
11:50So, you explore new things, have new
11:52experiences, and go, "Oh, I see, this
11:54is what I realized." If you sleep,
11:56yeah.
11:57while you sleep, your brain
11:58automatically updates your prefrontal
12:00cortex,
12:00and when you wake up, you're a
12:01different person.
12:02Yeah. In reality, everyone is a
12:04different person when they wake up
12:06every day, but because we wake up and
12:08say things like, "No, I'm worthless" or
12:10"I have this past history," we return
12:12to our old selves, but the brain is
12:14actually updating us every single day.
12:16I feel like modern people just return
12:18to their old selves every day because
12:20they don't oversee that update.
12:22But on the other hand, the brain also
12:24makes us do the same things for the
12:26sake of survival instincts,
12:27yeah,
12:27right? That aspect exists too. It does.
12:30How do we overcome that?
12:31Actually, it's like this. Basically,
12:34humans move once they rest, so relying
12:36on known information means you haven't
12:39reached 100%peace of mind.
12:42And that means, as I'm always saying,
12:44your breathing is likely shallow. And
12:47you haven't returned to your natural
12:48state. The criteria for judging your
12:50natural state is basically your
12:52heartbeat. Whether you are in your
12:54natural state, in sync with your life's
12:56rhythm, can be judged by your heartbeat
12:58. When your heart rate is stable, it
13:01seems a 0.1 Hz frequency can be
13:03observed between the heart and the
13:05brain. And looking at this 0.1 Hz, it
13:08turns out the electromagnetic field
13:10emitted by the Earth also has a 0.1 Hz
13:13frequency. So, people who have
13:16lifestyle habits—like using their
13:19breathing and awareness to stabilize
13:21their heart—naturally align their
13:23life rhythm with natural or vital
13:25energy. When that happens, humans have
13:30an internal system that spontaneously
13:32seeks out unexpected places or new
13:34discoveries; if you can't do that, it's
13:37likely proof you haven't returned 100%
13:39to your original state. It might be
13:41that you're lacking something, or
13:43lacking the intensity to raise it, or
13:45perhaps lacking the ability to slow
13:47down. Well, depending on the person, I
13:49often judge which one it is while
13:50listening during coaching. Coaching is
13:53interesting.
13:53It really is interesting. It’s
13:56completely different from the coaching
13:57I had imagined. I'm glad you realized
14:00that.
14:01Oh, well. But, even when I tried what
14:04I’d learned, it just didn't seem to
14:06change anything.
14:08Yeah. It just didn't feel right.
14:10It didn't feel right at all. That’s
14:12because the coach already has their
14:14questions set in their mind, so the
14:15formal questions are determined from
14:17the start.
14:18If you think, "I'll ask this person
14:19this question," then there’s nothing
14:21being co-created at that moment.
14:23Yeah. I felt like, "This won't help
14:25them reach out-of-the-box thinking," so
14:27the coach must be the one practicing
14:29out-of-the-box thinking first.
14:31You can't take the person there
14:32otherwise.
14:33Yeah. So, ultimately, it's the quality
14:35of the inquiry.
14:39And its breadth.
14:40Yeah. Yeah.
14:41That’s what leads the person to
14:43out-of-the-box thinking, but the
14:45research result I found most
14:46interesting recently was...
14:47Yeah. Yeah.
14:49That the client’s brain waves and
14:50state...
14:51Yeah. Yeah. ...synchronize with the
14:54coach.
14:54Yeah.
14:55Which means, you see.
14:56Yeah.
14:57If a coach lives a rigid life and......
14:59a coach who sees 100 possible
15:00perspectives as only one perspective...
15:03Yeah.
15:03That’s probably their alpha.
15:04Yes, yes, yes, yes.
15:06If a coach with that limited alpha does
15:08coaching......
15:09what happens is, that’s all that
15:10synchronizes.
15:11Yeah. Oh.
15:12Meaning, you can't reach out-of-the-box
15:13thinking.
15:14Yeah.
15:14There are actually plenty of research
15:16findings showing that therapy,
15:17counseling, and coaching are
15:19fundamentally about synchronization.
15:20I see. Which means it almost entirely
15:23depends on the coach's mental state.
15:24Yeah.
15:25So when you realize that, it's not
15:27about the techniques.
15:28Yeah.
15:28It really just depends on how centered
15:30the coach is.
15:31Yeah.
15:33And on how much they are able to keep a
15:35broad perspective in their daily life.
15:39Oh.
15:40You don't need to pay over a million
15:42yen for that. It's so expensive. I
15:44wonder why people get those
15:45certifications.
15:46Yeah. Because what you're getting for
15:48those staggering prices is just
15:49techniques. Of course, those are
15:53important, but I've arrived at the
15:55conclusion that if the coach hasn't
15:57achieved that centered state beforehand
15:58, the results of the coaching won't
16:00change at all.
16:03I wonder what this kid will be like in
16:05ten years. I once had a talk with Koryo
16:11Nakamura, a monk who was called the
16:14emperor for knocking down B21, and we
16:16were doing a Q&A with about seven
16:18people.
16:21And at that time...
16:24One of the people there, I think she
16:26was a surgeon, asked him. She said her
16:29life is stable now, but she's not sure
16:31about the next step. And when she said
16:34she didn't know what to do next, the
16:35monk replied:
16:36Yeah. "
16:37Don't set small goals."
16:39Whoa. "
16:42Set a goal so far away that you can't
16:44even imagine achieving it.""
16:48Once you aim for that, the worries you
16:50have now will just blow away," he said,
16:52noting that Kukai had been teaching
16:54this all along.
16:55Hmm. I never expected that in the
16:56teachings of Esoteric Buddhism.
16:58Yeah.
16:59Wow. Yeah.
17:01He said that everyone is too focused on
17:02holding the arrow and thinking only
17:04about how to shoot it at the target.
17:06Yeah. Yeah.
17:07But it's not like that; the moment the
17:09target exists, you've already shot the
17:11arrow.
17:11Yeah.
17:12But people keep wondering, "How should
17:13I shoot this?" or "Maybe this arrow
17:15would be better?" They keep training
17:17themselves and end up drifting further
17:19and further away from their objective.
17:21"
17:21Set your ambition," he said. "
17:24Set your goal way off in the distance."
17:26Yes. Then he just said, "Next person."
17:31Wow, I really feel like the true
17:33essence of those Zen dialogues—the
17:35importance of questions that aren't
17:37just your own thoughts—is all packed
17:39into coaching.
17:42That's exactly it. Coaching is actually
17:45pretty incredible. People might call it
17:49suspicious, but it really taps into
17:51brain function, and your brain should
17:53actually be happy about it. That’s
17:59why the brain isn’t happy when things
18:01are just forced upon it.
18:03But most of the coaching out there
18:04basically tells you to set a goal right
18:06away.
18:07Exactly.
18:08And then they tell you to think about
18:10what to do in the short term.
18:11That’s right.
18:13In a way, that’s actually narrowing
18:15down your possibilities.
18:17Exactly. I mean, when the Wright
18:19brothers built the airplane, they
18:20didn't start out saying they wanted to
18:22build a plane.
18:23Oh, really?
18:24Yeah, that's right. They just loved
18:26birds. It was about connecting the dots
18:31, and if you had forced them to set a
18:33goal of building a plane from the start
18:35, they would have never reached it. It
18:39all started from their love for birds.
18:41That’s true for Nintendo, too; they
18:43started as a playing card company, and
18:45when that didn't go well...Well, in a
19:01sense, if you just grind through tasks
19:03without your inner self being involved,
19:05your autonomic nerves are bound to get
19:07out of whack. I think goal setting
19:09should only happen when you see the
19:11final direction.
19:12Yeah.
19:13For example, one of my clients has a
19:15goal of reaching a trillion-yen company
19:17in four years, but even while saying
19:20that, he tried farming, social welfare,
19:22and various other things, until the
19:24moment he saw AI and data centers,
19:26which finally gave him a clear
19:28direction. Once you've connected those
19:31dots and identified the destination,
19:33then you can say, "Okay, to get there,
19:35I need to handle these specific tasks,"
19:37and move toward it. That’s why the
19:39coaching we believe in is, in a sense,
19:42the final step. You should only set
19:44goals once the final direction is clear
19:47; because people try to set tasks
19:49before that, someone who might actually
19:51want to go into AI ends up saying, "No,
19:53I'm sticking to farming," which stunts
19:55brain growth and disrupts their
19:57autonomic nerves, meaning the more
19:59coaching they get, the lower their
20:01happiness becomes. I have to take this
20:05very seriously, because this work
20:06directly affects people's happiness.
20:09Many jobs do, but one wrong word can
20:12ruin a person's life. I feel I need to
20:16keep searching for a type of coaching
20:18that is truly brain-compliant, one that
20:20the brain naturally responds to.
20:23Wonderful. Wonderful. I already had
20:28Minami-san teach me that coaching. It's
20:32not just about coaching, but in society
20:34, everyone is always asking people
20:36about their goals, right?
20:39Like, "What do you want to become?""
20:41What do you want to do?"
20:42That just narrows down the other
20:43person's potential, doesn't it?
20:45Yeah. Exactly. A classic example is
20:47asking an 18-year-old, "What is your
20:49dream for the future?""
20:51What kind of person are you?" How could
20:52they possibly know?
20:53They couldn't possibly know. You only
20:55discover what you want to do by meeting
20:57different people, experiencing
20:59different things, and learning about
21:01other cultures and civilizations to
21:03finally understand your own. If you're
21:05suddenly told to define a dream without
21:07that foundation, you'll inevitably
21:09write a lie.
21:10Yeah.
21:11That really is nothing but a hindrance
21:13to the brain. Instead, how much can you
21:15follow those ideas that surface, those
21:17things you sort of want to do, or those
21:19subtle feelings of discomfort? That is
21:22what, in the end, connects to what you
21:24truly want to do.
21:26Yeah.
21:27And you can never know in the moment
21:29what you loved or wanted to do until
21:30you look back. I really think we should
21:34stop asking students about their dreams
21:36. It's okay not to know, and not to
21:38fixate on one thing; that's the most
21:40natural way for the brain to function.
21:44Well, university students and the like
21:46get so rigid about having to have a
21:48dream and thinking about things like
21:50finding a job.
21:54I always tell them to look at what they
21:55really want to do, and things actually
21:57changed for them in a year.
22:00Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
22:02You can criticize someone's work, but
22:03you should never criticize their
22:05character.
22:05Yeah.
22:06But these days, everyone confuses the
22:08two.
22:08Yeah. People often struggle because
22:12they can't separate things; when
22:13scolded at work, they feel it's a
22:15character assassination or take it
22:17personally, failing to realize it's
22:19about the work method being wrong, not
22:21an attack on them as a person. Yeah,
22:24exactly. That’s true.
22:25Yeah.
22:26That’s right.
22:29It really is a matter of how you use
22:31your awareness, and if you know what
22:33we're talking about now, you can start
22:34practicing it from your next meal.
22:36Yeah. A lot of it has nothing to do
22:42with your life or your own heart, but
22:44the fact that people mix it all
22:46together seems to be caused by our
22:48social structure and common sense—
22:50this societal pressure to be excellent
22:52at everything, which hinders us,
22:54including how we handle verbalization.
23:01Especially with the rise of text-based
23:04communication, people who can verbalize
23:06well are labeled as "excellent," which
23:08is...
23:10It’s quite curious, as further
23:12research shows...
23:14There are those who excel at
23:15verbalization—in other words,
23:17thinkers who process things through
23:19language.
23:20And then there are visual thinkers.
23:22Yeah. Basically, some people think
23:24almost entirely in visuals.
23:26While others think in words, and
23:28because text communication has
23:29increased, those who think in words are
23:31currently seen as superior.
23:33Yeah.
23:33But visual thinkers process everything
23:35through images, so they often handle a
23:37much higher volume of information than
23:39those who process things 100%through
23:41language. Yeah.
23:42A wider range.
23:43So, they are actually more creative.
23:45Yeah.
23:45But because language-oriented people
23:47are considered "excellent," the
23:48potential of these other thinkers is
23:49becoming increasingly narrow.
23:53Connecting this to coaching, I feel
23:55that coaching is about taking another
23:57look at the talents that get hidden or
23:59the genius that fades from the world
24:01the moment we label people or define
24:03what "excellence" looks like. Everyone
24:09wants immediate results. That's right.
24:13They feel they need to change right
24:14away and always want an immediate
24:16answer, so they don't take the time to
24:18think about it.
24:20Yeah.
24:22I feel like the way we hold onto things
24:24like that is constantly evolving.
24:26Yeah. No, there's no doubt about it.
24:29Maybe that's the reason people stopped
24:30dating, or...
24:31Yeah.
24:32Or,
24:32Well, if you order from Amazon, it
24:34arrives tomorrow, right?
24:35Yeah. If you want dopamine, you can
24:37just watch reels.
24:39I think the world makes it that easy to
24:41get a hit of dopamine. That's why I
24:45found it interesting lately, that the
24:47moment people today feel the most
24:49pleasure...
24:50Of course, there are many things, but
24:52...
24:53Well, it's a social issue.
24:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:56Trolling.
24:57It's apparently the most satisfying
24:59thing. Oh, the person doing it?
25:01Yeah, doing it—it's an addiction,
25:03apparently. For example, a celebrity
25:06has an affair. It doesn't really matter
25:08. Going that far against someone you'll
25:12never meet is supposedly a complete
25:13addiction.
25:15It's just that the act itself feels
25:17good. So, there’s likely a real
25:19problem with the brain involved.
25:20Yeah.
25:21Even with hate comments. Well, as a
25:23social problem, there are too many
25:25things that provide short-term dopamine
25:27. Yeah.
25:28But even if that's unavoidable, habits
25:30that provide long-term dopamine are
25:32absolutely necessary. That should be
25:33what childhood play is all about.
25:35Yeah.
25:35For example, exploring, fishing,
25:38playing in nature, things like that.
25:42If we don't, in a sense, help them
25:44develop those habits, I think human
25:46brains will become increasingly
25:48unnatural, creating unnatural minds and
25:50more unnatural people, which feels like
25:53it will lead to something helpless.
25:58I've been working on those difficult
26:00issues again lately, and there are so
26:02many haters.
26:03I bet there are.
26:04And they're all men.
26:05Actually, it's already backed by
26:07statistics. Men in their 40s to 50s.
26:09Oh, is that so? The ones who hate?
26:11Yes, the ones who end up trolling.
26:13I see.
26:14That's right. So, how am I handling it?
26:16I'm taking them down one by one.
26:18Wow.
26:19Responding to every single one politely
26:21.
26:21Ah, I see.
26:22Politely answering things like, "Your
26:24Japanese is wrong here." If I were to
26:26respond to every "could you please
26:28point out which part of my Japanese is
26:30unnatural?" request, I’d eventually
26:32just give up.
26:33I keep at it until they have nothing
26:35left to say.
26:35Oh, I see.
26:37But if you leave those comments alone,
26:39everyone else reading the thread sees
26:41them, which ruins the good atmosphere.
26:43Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
26:45Even when people are asking good
26:47questions, it's just wild out there.
26:53It’s the same with bullying and those
26:55senseless trolls; before, people said
26:57it was better to just leave bullying
26:59alone.
27:00Yeah.
27:01That was the social consensus, but
27:02it’s a huge mistake. There’s never
27:05been a case where ignoring bullying
27:06made things better, so you really have
27:08to deal with it immediately.
27:10That’s why I deal with trolls right
27:12away, taking them down one by one.
27:14I see. So, when they think they're
27:18getting an easy pass...
27:20I guess since they get no feedback on
27:22their behavior, they never stop to
27:24re-examine themselves. Especially at 40
27:26or 50, nobody tells you anything, right
27:28?
27:29Yeah. They say the number of depressed
27:31men in their 40s and 50s is
27:32skyrocketing.
27:33Huh.
27:33Now.
27:33First, they have no self-confidence.
27:36Yeah.
27:36And then, they're filled with anxiety
27:38about the future.
27:39Many people end up becoming recluses
27:41because of that, so dealing with these
27:43trolls...
27:44Yeah.
27:45It does happen, doesn't it?
27:46Yeah.
27:47Ah. Maybe they aren't able to live with
27:49any peace of mind.
27:49I suppose so. Well, when people break
27:53down, there are many reasons, but
27:55usually, it involves the instinctive
27:57part of the brain. Even though our
28:01bodies are naturally meant to function
28:03with wild instincts, we ignore that and
28:06rely solely on the human brain, which
28:08causes flare-ups, depression, and
28:10messes up our dopamine regulation. I
28:14think those people would naturally
28:16recover if they went into the mountains
28:18and jumped into rivers, but it’s not
28:20that simple, is it? It would be nice if
28:23we could gradually spread that concept
28:25in society.
28:27I really think they should get coaching
28:29from Mr. Minami.
28:30But since the questions are so
28:32important, you have to use completely
28:33different questions for each client.
28:35Yeah. Oh, they are different. They are
28:37completely different.
28:38Yeah. But because they synchronize with
28:41the person being coached, it is vital
28:43that the coach themselves is truly
28:45well-balanced.
28:47That’s exactly right. You're judging
28:49them, you know—even if it's
28:50subconscious.
28:51This is truly fascinating.
28:53Well, there's various research on this,
28:55but the moment you start judging, beta
28:56waves become dominant, and your heart
28:58rate actually speeds up.
28:59Yeah.
29:00While you're in sync—
29:02the moment a coach thinks, "No, that's
29:04not right," their heart rate spikes.
29:07People can sense that at a subconscious
29:09level. So, the real job of a coach is
29:14to create a state where that doesn't
29:16happen, and the quality of your
29:17questions will absolutely change based
29:19on how much you practice having a
29:21hundred different ways to view
29:23everything. People who ask high-quality
29:27questions undoubtedly have a wide range
29:30of experience, a broad philosophy, and,
29:32most importantly, a wide range of
29:34perspectives. I imagine those who do
29:36that practice regularly are the ones
29:37who excel. So, you don't even need to
29:39study how to ask questions; they come
29:41naturally from your breadth of
29:43experience, philosophy, and perspective
29:45, so I feel you can sharpen that skill
29:47in life without going to coaching
29:49school.
29:49Amazing. You’ve been doing those
29:52coaching seminars lately, right?
29:55Yeah, I do them occasionally.
29:57Right. I saw they sell out instantly;
29:59the pace is so fast. Yeah. What was it?
30:03300—oh, 400 people?
30:06Yeah, it filled up in a day.
30:08Isn't that unusual?
30:10It was incredible.
30:11It really is.
30:12It just shows how much people want to
30:14know about coaching.
30:17But since the players aren't teaching
30:19it with proper theory, I think that's
30:20why everyone feels so lost.
30:24Even mental health counselors are
30:26getting booked up like crazy right now.
30:31There are so many people with
30:33depression, but listening to what you
30:34said, if the counselor themselves isn't
30:36regulated, they just sync up with the
30:38patient and make things worse.
30:43Exactly.
30:43That's bad.
30:44It's really bad. That's why people
30:46sometimes start to look like their
30:48leaders over time. You know how
30:49everyone in a community starts to look
30:51alike? I think that just shows how much
30:53they're syncing up. Wait, is my
30:55community okay?
30:56It's fine. Everyone.
30:58If they start looking like me, that's a
31:00problem.
31:00No, it's fine. That's a good thing.
31:03Wow, that's amazing.
31:05I see. No, really, it's incredible. I'd
31:09like to ask you more about that
31:10coaching again sometime soon.
31:13Yeah. Yes.
31:14This YouTube video is going to go viral
31:16again, I'm sure. I'll do my best. Thank
31:19you for today.
31:20Thank you. Thank you very much.
31:22Thank you. Look forward to it.

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