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0:00I asked, he answered. Weeks ago, when I
0:03visited the White House for dinner with
0:06the president of the United States and
0:07Bill Maher, I made sure to slide in a
0:10request that he would sit down with me
0:13to conduct an interview. The president
0:15promised that he would do so, and that's
0:18exactly what he did. This is Stephen A.
0:21Smith. I am at I am with you right now
0:24inside the White House, the famous
0:26Roosevelt room. and I am here with the
0:30president of the United States of
0:32America.
0:33>> Mr. President,
0:34>> thank you for doing this.
0:35>> Thank you.
0:36>> You You promised me that you would do it
0:37and you kept the word. I really I really
0:39appreciate it.
0:40>> No problem.
0:40>> Before I even start this interview, let
0:42me say that I just did
0:44>> a show at an H.B.CU, Tuskegee
0:47University, and the ladies in the
0:49administration there wanted me to extend
0:51a personal thank you to you. That's
0:53right. Uh when you uh basically
0:55eliminated debt uh for H.B.CU. cus back
0:58a few years ago in the price of $1.6
1:00billion at least. So want to thank you
1:02for that. They wanted to say make sure I
1:04extended that thank you. Nice. Thank
1:06you.
1:06>> Sure. Let's get right to it because I
1:08got a lot of uh tough questions to ask
1:10you. We sit here today in the aftermath
1:13of the midterms and what happened.
1:16>> What happened, Mr. President?
1:18>> Well, number one, I wasn't on the ballot
1:20and if you look at the numbers that I
1:21had just a short time before, they were
1:24a record. Every one of them was a record
1:26number. I won Texas in a record. I won
1:28Florida.
1:29>> I won Alabama. I won virtually every
1:32state uh of the states we talk about by
1:35a record number. [clears throat]
1:37>> Uh what happened? Uh I guess they
1:40probably
1:42um well there a couple of different
1:44answers to that. When you look at what's
1:46going on in Alaska where you have uh two
1:50Dan Sullivans running shouldn't be
1:52allowed
1:53>> when you add them up. And they actually
1:55added another person. And so they put
1:57two people on against one person. That's
1:59an unfair thing. Uh and I think some
2:03people would say there were some
2:04disparities that shouldn't have
2:06happened.
2:06>> But beyond that, I would say that maybe
2:09the war was not unpopular as a war, but
2:12unpopular because of the fact that uh
2:15the gasoline prices were higher, the uh
2:18oil prices. And I actually thought that
2:20that was something that people would be
2:22able to handle pretty well. Well, you
2:23know, it's not a big price to pay for uh
2:26stopping the number one state sponsor of
2:29terror, which is the Islamic Republic of
2:31Iran,
2:32>> stopping them from having a nuclear
2:34weapon. And we've done that. Uh and
2:36it'll end soon, but uh we've done that.
2:39And I really thought that that was
2:40something that the other candidates
2:43could wither. I think I would have done
2:45fine, but they weren't able to do that
2:47because to to the voter, I think gas
2:49prices went up and that seemed to be I
2:52think the biggest impact. But that
2:53doesn't seem to be what your own party
2:55is saying. I interviewed Governor Ronda
2:57Santis last week on my show. Obviously,
3:00I've spoken to several Republicans and
3:01then you look at some of the numbers.
3:02Net loss of eight seats with Alaska
3:05still uncold. Gubanatorial seats,
3:07Republican lost five governorships in
3:09Georgia, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, and Texas.
3:11House Republicans are projected to lose
3:13more than 40 seats. And from a state
3:15legislative standpoint, Democrats
3:17flipped more than 500 seats. Yeah.
3:19>> So, you said going into the midterms,
3:22put you on the ballot.
3:23>> I did.
3:24>> So, how can it not be that you were?
3:26>> Well, they didn't do it. They didn't put
3:27me on the ballot. The people didn't
3:29believe in the candidates perhaps.
3:32>> Uh, look, I won the state a short time
3:33before every state we're talking about
3:35in almost in records. Ohio was a record.
3:39I won by many points like 14 15 points.
3:42In Florida, I won by the largest vote in
3:44history. In Texas, I won by the largest
3:46vote in history. Uh again, Alabama, so
3:49many I could name them. I think it's
3:51over 30. Uh I have the highest Alaska, I
3:54had the highest vote in history.
3:56>> Uh I had so much. And I think I still
4:00have it. You saw with the rallies, I
4:01mean, the rallies were packed. We'd have
4:0315, 20, 25,000 people at every rally.
4:05But isn't it possible that people might
4:10have liked you, but they may not have
4:13liked the candidates you endorsed? Or is
4:16it one of those simple situations where
4:18the price of groceries, the price of
4:20gas, and so on and so forth? Those kind
4:22of things, the cost of living,
4:23affordability became an issue America
4:25felt you didn't address because you were
4:27preoccupied with the war.
4:28>> No, I think it's both. Um, I feel I had
4:32to do what I did in Iran. I think
4:34historically that's going to be a great
4:36decision. I hope. Uh but uh short term I
4:39guess it it is tougher politically. I
4:42knew that. I mean I had this thing going
4:45so perfectly and it's still going. Look,
4:46we have the highest stock market we've
4:48ever had. Now it's interesting that the
4:50day after the election the stock market
4:52lost $3 trillion in value and that tells
4:56you the people are in love with the
4:57Democrats because they were voting on
4:59Democrats. And
5:01>> but your approval rating was lower than
5:02them. your your approval rating is lower
5:04than the Democrats.
5:05>> Well, I have an approval rating on CNN
5:07of 99% in the Republican party and I
5:10have a approval rating on uh they
5:14compared myself, Abraham Lincoln and uh
5:18Ronald Reagan and Lincoln was at 8%,
5:21Reagan was at 14% and I was at 56% or
5:25something like that. So, I think my
5:27approval rating is good but I wasn't on
5:30the ballot. When you're not on the
5:31ballot, you don't pull them in. Don't
5:32forget I was on the ballot three times
5:35and every time I was on the ballot we
5:36won.
5:38>> But Mr. President, you said put you on
5:41the ballot and now you're saying they
5:43didn't. That means that that means they
5:45didn't listen to President Donald Trump.
5:48That's not what we know when it comes to
5:50you, when it comes to MAGA, when it
5:52comes to your supporters. I mean,
5:53they've spent the vast majority of the
5:55last decade listening to the things that
5:57you have to say. So when you told them
5:59to put you on the ballot, now you're
6:00saying they didn't listen to you. Well,
6:01I say that they maybe didn't like the
6:03candidates. Look, I mean, I understand.
6:05>> Did you like them?
6:06>> Some of them I liked, some of them I
6:07liked less, but I thought every one of
6:09them was better than the Democrats in
6:11terms of policy,
6:12>> but I'm talking about did you like them
6:14better than the other Republicans that
6:16they would have gone against. I'm
6:17thinking along the lines of a Kim Paxton
6:19compared to Senator John Cornin in
6:21Texas.
6:22>> I think Cornin would have done badly. I
6:24don't think he would have done very
6:25well. Uh, I think Paxton, you know,
6:27didn't do too well, but I don't think
6:29Cornin would have done any better. I
6:31mean, I I understood that the base liked
6:34him better. He look, they had a race and
6:36he won.
6:37>> It's not a question. I did endorse him
6:38and he won after I endorsed him. But
6:41Paxton had a race against Cornin and the
6:44Republicans put him out there and when
6:46they put him out there, he didn't do as
6:48well as perhaps he should.
6:49>> Why did you endorse Paxton to begin
6:51with? I mean, his record coming into it
6:53wasn't that great. I know you say as an
6:55attorney general, but what he had a a
6:58relatively stained past to be kind and
7:02those there are those that would ask
7:03why. I mean he he had issues. Why him?
7:06>> But he was a good attorney general and I
7:08had problems with John Cornin in the
7:11past where uh he was not supportive of
7:14me and a couple of things that I was not
7:16that I didn't like. So I decided that
7:19I'd go with Paxton. Uh, I don't think
7:21Cornin would have done I'm not I have
7:23nothing against Cornin really, but but
7:25he was very disloyal to me early on.
7:28>> Uh, he was disloyal at certain parts
7:30when it perhaps was maybe a good thing
7:34for him to be, you know, when when I
7:36wasn't in as much favor as uh at other
7:39times,
7:40>> but he wasn't for me. And I remember
7:42that, you know, I have a very good
7:43memory. M one of the things I brought up
7:46when and I'm I'm going to get off Pax,
7:47but one of the things I brought up I
7:48want to use him as an example because
7:50>> I don't believe any candidate that
7:53refuses to show up for a debate spending
7:5612 years deserves public office. I just
7:59think, excuse my language, I think
8:01that's a punk move. And that's not
8:02something anyone will ever accuse you
8:04of. You're debating anybody. You
8:06[clears throat] showed up all over the
8:07country. This is you're here right now.
8:09It's what you do. Yet you're endorsing
8:11people that are running from the public.
8:13That's not the Donald Trump that I know.
8:15And for the record, just so we can
8:16remind everybody, you and I have gone
8:18back decades now. We've known each other
8:20for a long time.
8:21>> I think we've liked each other.
8:22>> Yeah. Yes. Absolutely.
8:24>> So, u he should have done the debates. I
8:26thought I thought he should have done
8:28the debates. I thought it was a mistake.
8:29I thought it was close enough that the
8:31debates were very important.
8:32[clears throat]
8:33>> So, what that means
8:34>> and others too, you know, others skip
8:35the debate. A lot of them thought if
8:37they get my endorsement, they don't have
8:38to debate. I think getting the
8:40endorsement with some hurt them because
8:42it didn't hurt them, but they didn't
8:45work as hard as they should have worked.
8:46>> What about people who look at it and
8:49they say there's two things that cost
8:50the Republicans all these seats? It's
8:53the war with Iran and it's your tariffs.
8:56They blame that. And I even heard you
8:59mention something about your tariffs
9:00along those lines. What role do you
9:02think that played in the GOP losing as
9:06much as they did in these midterms?
9:08Well, the war was uh is just something I
9:10had to do regardless. I knew the war
9:12would be Wars are always very difficult
9:14when you have elections, but I had to do
9:16it. That should have been done long
9:17before me by other presidents. It should
9:20have been done a long time ago. The SS
9:21Cole, uh 400 people killed so many
9:25people. Well, even recently, they killed
9:2775,000 protesters. Who ever heard of
9:29that? Much more than 75,000 now. That
9:32was as of two or three months ago. It's
9:35an evil empire and we've knocked the
9:37hell out of them and they won't have a
9:40nuclear weapon. We've taken that away
9:41and we'll make sure we take it away.
9:43That's why I'm there.
9:44>> Why is it still going on? Why haven't
9:46they been finished? Because I've heard
9:47you say you could take them out. You can
9:49end this. Why haven't you?
9:51>> Uh I could end it immediately, but at
9:55the request of the nations that I'm
9:57looking to protect, we are doing it a
10:00little bit longer way, a little bit more
10:02civily. Uh Saudi Arabia has asked me to
10:06please just let it be the way it is now
10:09for a while because they're
10:10disintegrating. Uh Qatar, if you look at
10:13that, Kuwait,
10:15>> UAE,
10:16>> Bahrain, all of them would rather would
10:19much prefer uh the waiting period. We
10:23put a very big financial hurt on them
10:25and they are look they have 300% more
10:28than that of inflation. They have no
10:30money. They haven't paid their guard.
10:31They haven't paid their soldiers. They
10:33haven't paid their police and it's a
10:35nation that's in serious trouble. So,
10:37they've asked me to do that and uh I'm
10:40doing that. I'm not sure I agree with
10:42it, but uh we've taken them largely out.
10:45As you know, their navy's gone, their
10:46air force is gone. Uh their
10:49anti-aircraft is gone. Uh everything is
10:52gone. Frankly, their leaders are gone
10:54for the most part. Their leaders are
10:55>> But that's the reason that's the reason
10:57we're still there. That's the reason
10:58we're still in this war because
10:59>> that's the reason because because the
11:01people that we're looking to protect and
11:03that includes Israel uh the people that
11:06we're looking to protect which is
11:07basically the Middle East
11:08>> and we've had great relationships with
11:10them. They're tremendous investors in
11:12our country. They spend trillions of
11:16dollars in our country. The people that
11:18we're here to protect [snorts]
11:20would rather have me do it the way I'm
11:21doing it now.
11:23>> I'm going to say this, Mr. President.
11:27I'll take you at your word, but I don't
11:29believe that all that that's all that
11:31there is. I'm going to ask you this
11:32question because I watched you on 60
11:34Minutes and particularly when it came to
11:36the issue of hating your enemies and uh
11:40Nancy Pelosy's name was mentioned, James
11:42Comey name was mentioned. And I'm
11:44thinking about, as you said, look at
11:46what they, as in the Democrats, tried to
11:48do to you in terms of throwing you in
11:50jail and things of that nature. I'm
11:52thinking of along the lines of, well,
11:54they tried to throw you in jail. Iran
11:56tried to kill you.
11:58Vengeance is not something that you mind
12:01exacting against those you perceive to
12:03be your enemies, one would say. I don't
12:06think you would deny that. So, if that's
12:09the case, how much of a role does that
12:12play in the United States still being in
12:15the position that it's in with Iran,
12:17knowing how much you hate them because
12:19they've tried to kill you?
12:20>> Well, it's a human reflex. I mean, I
12:23feel that way. I know you would feel
12:24that way, too. I think I know you well
12:26enough to say that you're probably not a
12:28lot different than me in that way. But
12:30no, it's certainly if somebody treats
12:33you with uh differently, let's say
12:36nicely as opposed to the opposite. I I
12:39hate my opponents. And it's not a
12:41question of opponents. I hate certain
12:42people. I don't hate all my opponents. I
12:43respect a lot of my opponents, but there
12:46are some that I think were way across
12:48the line, and I have a certain hatred
12:50for them. Uh so do many people. I've
12:53heard heard it said about some old he
12:55never hates well there's a lot of hatred
12:57in the world and when you get treated
13:00the way I got treated by uh various
13:04people I won't use names but various
13:06people politically and I survived I
13:08became president again and we have a
13:11country that's hot as a pistol uh and by
13:13the way speaking about your tariffs
13:15without tariffs would be almost a dead
13:17country we have right now thousands of
13:20plants being built all over the United
13:21States and that's only done to avoid
13:23tariffs. If they if we didn't have the
13:25tariffs, we wouldn't have any If I said
13:27right now, I'm going to stop the
13:28tariffs.
13:29>> All of those plants would stop
13:31construction.
13:32>> I'm going to I'm going to come right
13:33back to the tariffs, but I still want
13:35you to finish answering about the hatred
13:37that you feel for Iran. They've got on a
13:39a billboard in Tyrron right now talking
13:41about killing you.
13:42>> Yeah. Um
13:43>> that has nothing to do with why you're
13:46still there.
13:46>> They're an evil enemy. They've killed
13:49many Americans. They've killed many
13:50American soldiers, sailors, as you know,
13:53with the SS Cole, but other thing other
13:56than that, they've killed 75,000
13:59protesters recently, and it's much more
14:01than that. Uh they're a very evil group
14:04of people, and uh I certainly
14:08u I don't hate the people of Iran, but I
14:11think their leadership has been a
14:12horrible horrible thing. It's it truly
14:15is. It's the number one state sponsor of
14:17terror in the world. Everybody said
14:19that. That's not a phrase used by me.
14:21It's a phrase given by many people that
14:24know what's happening, including the
14:25United Nations. And uh
14:28>> so you you bombed when I say when I say
14:31hate, I certainly uh I certainly don't
14:34love them. They are they are they have
14:36done they've killed a lot of American
14:38soldiers.
14:38>> But like you've said, you've basically
14:40disarmed them. You've obliterated them
14:41to some degree. At least that's what you
14:43say. Okay.
14:44>> No, no, no, no. It's not what I say.
14:45It's it's what happened. Okay. I mean,
14:48you just take a look, you sound like the
14:50New York Times. They try and justify
14:52everything. That's what happens. Look,
14:54they uh they are a very bad group of
14:58people. The leadership I'm talking
15:00about, they're violent. Uh they hate us.
15:03They say death to America constantly. Uh
15:06they say death to Israel. They say death
15:08in many cases to the Middle East. Look,
15:11they attacked five countries that
15:12weren't even their enemies and they
15:14attacked them, which was the biggest
15:15surprise of that war because they went
15:17after Saudi Arabia, they went after UAE,
15:20and they went after Qatar.
15:22>> Okay. So, let's put it this way. If it
15:24wasn't for the other nations,
15:25particularly in the Middle East, that
15:27don't want you to do that, would you
15:30have already taken them out?
15:31>> Yes, I would. I would have. Yeah.
15:34>> And by taking them out, that means what?
15:36What exactly?
15:37>> Going further than I went. We've gone
15:38very far. [snorts] Uh we've attacked
15:42them pretty far, but we for the most
15:45part left their bridges alone. We took
15:47out one big bridge because they behaved
15:49very badly.
15:50>> But and we've let their electric, you
15:53know, manufacturing capability uh
15:56survive and we haven't attacked their
15:58energy at all.
16:00>> We haven't attacked their energy. Uh, if
16:02I want to take them out, I hit their in
16:04in one day their energy is gone. In one
16:08day, their bridges are gone. And in one
16:10day, their manufacturing capability is
16:14gone. It would only take me three days.
16:15One day each.
16:16>> Let's go back to the tariffs because you
16:18brought that up and I brought that up.
16:21Kansas is a state.
16:23>> You lost. First time.
16:25>> No, no, I didn't lose. I won Kansas in a
16:27record number. I got
16:28>> I'm talking I'm talking about the
16:28midterms. I'm just talking about the
16:30midterms. turned over since first time
16:31since 19.
16:32>> Again, I'm not on the ballot. I I went I
16:34made a speech for some people, but I'm
16:36not on the ballot. If I was on the
16:38ballot, I think it would have been a
16:39difference.
16:39>> But in the Midwest, you're talking about
16:40tractors and what have you. It was at $4
16:43per gallon for diesel fuel, and now it's
16:45over $6.
16:47People are using that.
16:48>> That's because of the war. But remember
16:49this, under Biden, gasoline was higher
16:52than Trump. Under Barack Hussein Obama,
16:57gasoline was higher than Trump.
17:00and they didn't take out Iran. I did. I
17:02did something that they were not willing
17:04to do. In fact, Obama gave them a a path
17:08to a nuclear weapon. He said, uh, he
17:10signed the JCPOA. It's a disastrous
17:14deal. One of the one of the dumbest
17:15deals I've ever seen. That was a path
17:17for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. It
17:20expired three years ago, by the way, if
17:21I didn't terminate it, but I terminated
17:23it before that. It was a short-term
17:25deal. It It gave a path for Iran to have
17:27a nuclear weapon.
17:28>> [clears throat]
17:28>> If Iran had a nuclear weapon, [snorts]
17:30they would use it, Stephen, immediately.
17:33>> So, with that being said, basically what
17:35you're saying is the tariffs, the war,
17:37even though obviously it contributed to
17:38an elevation in prices, affordability,
17:40creating affordability issues, at least
17:42in people's minds in the United States
17:44of America. You're saying at the end of
17:45the day, you have no doubt that you did
17:47the right thing and you wouldn't do
17:48anything differently.
17:49>> Well, I look, can you say no doubt? Um,
17:52I look, there's a possibility that they
17:55wouldn't have used possibility. I think
17:57it's a small possibility that they
17:59wouldn't have used the nuclear weapon
18:01that they were two weeks away from
18:02having
18:03>> in which case I guess I would say I
18:05shouldn't have done this but I think the
18:07probability the strong probability is
18:09they would have used it and they would
18:11have wiped out the entire Middle East
18:12and they would have gone beyond that. I
18:15know my customer. You know, my whole my
18:16whole thing in life is deals.
18:18>> Even the presidency, that's a deal.
18:20Like, you know, you have to wheel and
18:22deal and everything else. Someday you
18:24may try it. But, uh, but my whole thing
18:28is, uh, deals. My whole life has been a
18:31big deal. And I know people, and if you
18:34don't know people, you can't you
18:36wouldn't know how to make a deal. And I
18:38will tell you, these are very vicious
18:40people. They're very violent people.
18:42They were trying to get a nuclear weapon
18:44to use it and I bombed the hell out of
18:46their sites. Uh, and now we have a site
18:48called Pickaxe Mountain, which I may do
18:50or may not do. They haven't been very
18:52active there, but if they are, we'll
18:54bomb that one, too. But we bombed, they
18:56would have had a nuclear weapon within
18:58that was over a year ago now. The B2
19:00bombers, they would have had a nuclear
19:02weapon and they would have used it. So,
19:04if that's the case, that makes oil going
19:07up actually pretty small amount. You
19:10know, I thought oil was going to go much
19:11higher. If you look today, I'm taking
19:14out more oil through the harmon than
19:16they did before the war started.
19:18>> You and I spoke weeks ago, and thank you
19:20again for hosting me to the dinner here,
19:23myself with Bill Mah. We won't bring him
19:25up. But here's my question to you. Back
19:27then, you told me, you said trillions of
19:29dollars are coming into America. You'll
19:33see. You'll see. The American people are
19:36saying,
19:37>> "When are we going to see it?" We
19:38haven't seen it yet. takes a while to
19:40have the plants open. Look, right now
19:43they just announced massive car
19:45companies are coming in. They're leaving
19:47Mexico. They're leaving Canada. You
19:49know, they sold all these. They sold 60%
19:52of our companies. Mexico, Canada, uh if
19:55you look at South Korea, mostly Germany
19:58and Japan, those five, but others also,
20:01they took our car industry and they they
20:04cut it in half, but more than half. And
20:06all of a sudden, we're importing cars
20:08from all over the world. And we don't
20:10have our workers. Our auto workers were
20:12I did phenomenally in Michigan. I won
20:14Michigan, as you probably know. And I
20:16won the auto workers because they knew
20:18exactly what I was saying. And what I've
20:20done is we have auto plants now being
20:22built all over the United States,
20:24including Detroit, where they're doing
20:26massive expansions of existing plants.
20:28Without me, all those we would be losing
20:31the rest of our own plants. I also saved
20:34the steel industry. Without tariffs, it
20:36would be impossible. And the reason is,
20:38and it seems so simple, but I really
20:41believe that people are smart, but
20:43sometimes they're just bad people. They
20:45just don't want it to be known. The
20:47reason is that they were coming in and
20:49dumping steel in the United States, and
20:51our factories were all going bankrupt.
20:53We were down to almost nobody, nothing.
20:55I saved US Steel. I made a merger. I
20:58worked out a merger saving US Steel,
21:01which used to be the biggest company.
21:03That was the big company of the day that
21:05when you hear about the Googles and the
21:07Apples and all these big companies, uh
21:10the big company used to be US Steel, the
21:12biggest company in the world for a long
21:13period of time. It was reduced to
21:15nothing. Now it's thriving. It's doing
21:17great.
21:17>> Well, that's not the message the
21:18American people receive. Why did they
21:20receive it? Because you're the master.
21:22How come they didn't receive that
21:23message?
21:23>> Because you have fake news that doesn't
21:24want to report the message now. But your
21:27bet I mean it's gotten to the point
21:28where you know you've been saying fake
21:30news for years but somehow someway you
21:32were able to get your message across
21:34when you ran in 2015 2016 2020 2024 etc.
21:37I mean why now?
21:39>> Well I just think that it's just a point
21:41in time and I think it had to do maybe
21:42with the war but I don't think it was
21:44the war as much as what the war did. It
21:46lifted up gasoline prices. I'm
21:48disappointed in people because I really
21:51think it's a very small um it's really a
21:54very small thing to pay to get rid of a
21:57country that would act absolutely in my
22:00opinion use nuclear weapons on us on
22:03others but also on us and by the way if
22:05it's others that pertains also you're
22:08killing millions of people they would
22:09kill millions and millions of people but
22:13the tariff thing has made this country
22:17so rich We are building, people are
22:20leaving. Now it's, you know, tariffs
22:22were used against us by China and
22:24others. Now we're using them much better
22:26than anybody ever used them. And we have
22:29somebody's going to be president in two
22:32years and they're going to say that
22:33person is a an incredible genius because
22:36we have factories opening up and they're
22:38starting now, but they're opening up at
22:40levels never seen before. Look at our
22:42jobs numbers. We had the best job
22:44numbers we've ever had. Look at the
22:46numbers from last week. were expecting
22:4820 jobs, 20,000 and it turned out to be
22:51165,000 jobs for the month. Nobody's
22:54ever seen numbers like what we're doing
22:56and that's because of tariffs. Now, the
23:00Democrats say tariff I always say that
23:02tariff is a word that needs uh public
23:05relations.
23:06>> It's the best thing that ever happened
23:08to us. It's made us strong again. It
23:11saved our job. we would be a country
23:14with the factories were all leaving
23:16under Obama. You know, Obama has been a
23:19bit it's been a bit
23:20>> Obama said we will never be a
23:22manufacturing country again. So last
23:25week it came out that exporting the
23:27exporting is the number one we've ever
23:29had. Number one month we've ever had.
23:31That's manufacturing. Obama said that.
23:33Biden didn't say anything because I
23:35don't think Biden knew too much about
23:36what was happening if you want to know
23:37the truth. But Obama said it and we were
23:41losing our country under Biden. We were
23:43losing our country. If we had to go
23:45through another year, I don't think we
23:46would have had a country.
23:48>> And we're thriving. Just so you
23:50understand, we're building hundreds and
23:53hundreds of factories, plants. You know,
23:56the entire medical industry is coming
23:58back. You know, during co we learned
24:00something that we don't make medicine
24:02anymore. Do you know that Fizer, Merc,
24:06uh, Eli Liy, [clears throat] do you know
24:08they're building hundreds of billions of
24:10dollars worth of plants now? You know
24:12why? Because of tariffs. I said, "You've
24:14got two years to build your plant. After
24:16that, we're going to charge you 300%
24:18tariff." First year, no tariff. Second,
24:22you can keep bringing it in from China,
24:24Ireland, England. First year, no tariff.
24:28Second year, 10% very small. Third year,
24:31300%. You have two years to build your
24:34factory. They're building like crazy.
24:36And what's going to happen? We're going
24:37to make all of our own medicine. We're
24:39going to make all of our own steel.
24:40We're going to make all of our own
24:41aluminum. These are commitments.
24:43>> We're going to use our own that's coming
24:44to the United States. You know for a
24:46fact this is going to come. This is not
24:47just people giving you your money. It's
24:48>> already built and building it.
24:50>> I'm asking you.
24:51>> No. No. These are factories that are
24:52under construction right now. They're
24:54spending hundreds of billions of dollars
24:58building factories that are under
24:59construction. And if you look at the job
25:01numbers last week, the job numbers are
25:04incredible. The job numbers are people
25:06have never seen the construction
25:08numbers. You know why? Cuz we're
25:09building, we're leading in SI by a lot.
25:12And data centers are very important by
25:14the way, but people are going to start
25:15to understand that. And people are going
25:17to start participating in data centers
25:19financially. And that's going to be
25:21good. But we're leading China now in SI.
25:23We're leading everybody. We're leading
25:25the whole world.
25:26>> I have to interject because our car
25:27industry, I got it. Our car industry is
25:29coming back.
25:30>> Here's where I'm coming at with with
25:31you.
25:34>> You can't have it both ways. You can't
25:35say you weren't on the ballot and all of
25:37those changes took place. But give out
25:39these numbers. I'm saying give out the
25:41okay, but give but give out these
25:43numbers. Give out these facts that are
25:45clearly beneficial to Americans, but
25:46Americans didn't didn't receive it that
25:48way during the midterms. I gave him out
25:50and the I gave him out not a lot
25:53different than I'm giving them out to.
25:55>> I'm thinking about the man that rolled
25:56down the escalator. I'm thinking about
25:57the guy that looked that walked into the
25:59black community in in in in before the
26:022016 election and you looked at folks
26:04and you said, "What do you have got to
26:07lose?" You ask a question.
26:09>> The black community is the biggest
26:10beneficiary of what I've done. I did
26:13criminal justice reform. Yes, you did. I
26:15did things. I saved the historically
26:18black colleges and universities. They
26:21were out of business. I have a list of
26:22things that I wrote here.
26:24>> Read the list.
26:24>> And I said, I'll read the whole list.
26:26Sure. Well, I'm just
26:27>> You have the time. I'm going to read it.
26:29>> I I've got nothing but time. Read the
26:30list.
26:30>> The Trump administration awarded a
26:32recordet one-time investment of $438
26:35million to historically black colleges
26:38and universities. They were ready to go
26:40bankrupt before I got this done.
26:42>> Okay.
26:42>> Okay. You know that historically black
26:44colleges and university in 20 in
26:46September 2026, the Department of
26:49Education announced another $174
26:52million that I personally approved to
26:54H.B.CU, bringing the extra funding above
26:56what Congress approved to more than $612
27:00million over a two-year period. Uh
27:02[clears throat] money that the Democrats
27:04fought me on $612 million. That's the
27:08HBCU is right. In April 2025, President
27:13Trump signed an executive order bringing
27:15the H.B.CU initiative back to the White
27:18House where it was taken out by the
27:19Democrats and recreating president uh
27:23board of advisers. So, I have a board of
27:25adviserss of the H.B.CU, the presidents
27:28of the colleges. The Democrats didn't do
27:30that. They didn't want that. And they
27:32treated him badly, by the way. I don't
27:33understand how any black person that
27:35votes for a Democrat. I don't understand
27:37it. President Trump's historic price to
27:40Save America Act, the Save America Act
27:42safeguards black voices, ensuring
27:45illegal votes don't drown out the
27:47disenfranchised black communities. It's
27:50a big deal. Thanks to President Trump's
27:53the Trump Accounts Initiative, 100% of
27:55black newborn babies now have exposure
27:59to the stock market, closing a
28:01long-standing fiscal divide, and they're
28:03getting $1,000 from our government when
28:07they're born.
28:08>> Governor West Moore spoke about that.
28:09>> No, think of that. [clears throat] Oh,
28:11it's very popular. But I did that. The
28:13Democrats, they voted. By the way, do
28:14you know that 100% of the Democrats
28:18voted against it? President Trump's
28:20working families tax cut secured no tax
28:24on overtime, benefiting millions and
28:26millions of black workers eligible for
28:29overtime benefits. President Trump
28:31secured a tax-free 1,776
28:34warrior dividend of which the black
28:37soldier is a big percentage of our
28:40military got $1,776
28:43as a dividend. 1776, right? The Trump
28:47administration lowered the backlog of
28:49veterans waiting for VA benefits by 70%.
28:53Reformed the VA loan program and largely
28:56many of these loans are going to black
28:58soldiers and black uh exs soldiers from
29:03the military. I did that. Nobody else
29:05did. President Trump named Okay.
29:07>> Alice Marie Johnson, the black greatg
29:10grandmother whose life sentence was
29:12commuted and ultimately pardoned by
29:14President Trump.
29:15>> Yes. and we made her the the pardon zar.
29:18So there's a woman who was in jail. Wait
29:21a minute. This is a black woman
29:23>> who was in jail for 22 years and I was
29:27her name was brought to me
29:29>> and I said, "What did she do?" She was
29:31involved in the sale of marijuana very
29:34uh lightly involved. She was on a phone
29:36conversation. I said, "How many years
29:39was she given?" "Wait
29:41a minute. You mean she's got to serve
29:42another 28 years?" She was 22 years when
29:45she was presented to me. I was so
29:47impressed with her. I made her the
29:48pardon. She's a fine woman. I'm sure you
29:50met her, Alice Johnson. And it was a
29:53saddest story. She spent 22 years in
29:56jail. She had another 28 years to go
29:57with no no commutation, no anything.
30:01I mean, I saved her life and I made her
30:03the uh pardon zar. She's got a
30:06tremendous power and pardon because I
30:08asked her, I said, "Alice,
30:10she's a fine woman." I knew it
30:12immediately. I said, "How many people
30:13like you are in jail?" She said, "Many."
30:17I said, 'Well, you were in jail, the
30:19same jail for 22 years, right? How many
30:21people are like you? What percentage?
30:23She said, "2%." I see. Okay. So, there
30:27are bad people, too. Cuz I didn't want
30:28to say everybody's perfect. You know,
30:30it's prison, right? Yes.
30:32>> She said, "No, there are some very bad
30:33people, but there are also some very
30:35good people that did nothing wrong." I
30:37said, "I want you to give me a list of
30:39all of those people. We're going to
30:40pardon those people." And we've done
30:42that largely done that the Trump
30:44administration expanded and and this is
30:47really big deal expanded Medicaid access
30:50to new gene therapies for cickle cell
30:53disease and cickle cell anemia a painful
30:56inherited blood disease that falls
30:57hardest on black Americans in states
31:00covering about 84% of Medicaid. Well,
31:03wait a minute. The Democrats wouldn't do
31:05cickle cell anemia and I did it.
31:08President Trump's working families tax
31:09cuts made opportunity zones permanent. I
31:13did opportunity with Senator Tim Scott.
31:16>> I I don't I senator I understand I want
31:19to get to a point though. First of all
31:20>> Oh, no. But I have three pages of this.
31:21>> I understand it. You you talked about
31:23what the
31:23>> You wish you didn't ask me to.
31:25>> No, no, not at all. No, no. I just don't
31:26want to take all my time on that. But I
31:28got you.
31:29>> I'd rather do that.
31:30>> I do remember. Well, I got some more
31:31questions. 18.1% in Mr. President. Mr.
31:36President Barack Obama gave over 2, you
31:38know, 2.9 billion, 2.4 billion to
31:40H.B.CU's 2009. You did about 1.9 billion
31:43in 2019. Biden came in and did over 17
31:46billion when you take everything into
31:48account.
31:48>> My they were going bankrupt during my
31:50administration. The money that they gave
31:52was stolen and it didn't fund. They were
31:55going bankrupt. They came to me you know
31:57I got to know a lot of the head people
31:59from the various colleges
32:01>> and I said tell me how come after 3
32:04years how come I see you every year they
32:07said because they want us to be beggars
32:09these are the presidents of the colleges
32:10even about 50 of them
32:12>> and I got to know them because I'd see
32:14them every year once a year they came
32:15down looking for money
32:17>> and I said I the first time I didn't see
32:19anything wrong I didn't think anything
32:21was so then the second time I was a
32:23little surprised I said how come you're
32:25here man. And the third time I said,
32:26"How come I've met you again?" They
32:28said, "Because they want us to beg every
32:30year. The Democrats demand that we come
32:32back every single year." I said, "Well,
32:34I'm going to get you 10year financing."
32:36Now, the only bad thing is they actually
32:38became friends with him, as you know,
32:40>> and I said, "I'll never see you again
32:42probably because I'm going to get you
32:4410year financing." I got them financed
32:46and I got them more than they wanted.
32:48Barack Obama did nothing for and Biden
32:51did nothing for him. All they did was
32:53the 19 I guess it was the 1996 crime act
32:57which was the worst thing that ever
32:58happened to black people. That was the
33:00worst thing that was under Clinton.
33:03>> That was under Clinton 1994. The crime
33:05bill with Clinton and Biden.
33:06>> What did I do? I did criminal justice
33:08reform. That's bigger than all of this
33:10stuff put together. I did criminal
33:12justice reform at the request of a lot
33:16of black journalists. one in particular
33:18that I told you about. I think he's a
33:19disgrace because he was very unthankful.
33:22Uh they came to my office. They had no
33:25chance of getting criminal justice
33:27reform. They had many senators that
33:29would never have voted
33:30>> and they came. They made their case to
33:32me. They've been trying to get it for 25
33:34years and I got criminal justice reform
33:37done.
33:37>> You did it
33:38>> and I did that and everybody
33:40acknowledges I did that.
33:41>> But you're talking about Van Jones.
33:43You're talking about Van Jones who you
33:45asked me to call. I called them. He said
33:47he has thanked and than thanked and
33:49thanked you time and time again on
33:50camera, off camera. He knows he said for
33:53the record, he knows that he came to you
33:55and you were the one that got the five
33:56Republican senators inside of an hour to
33:58help him. He said all of these things.
34:00He's giving you thanks for that. So,
34:02let's get that out of the way. But when
34:03you talk about the black community and
34:04how they're feeling about it, obviously
34:06they there's feeling that Obama did his
34:09share, Biden did his share. They know
34:10you did his sh your share, but then but
34:12then they look but then they look at
34:14justice reform. criminal justice. That's
34:17the biggest thing there is. Right. Yes.
34:18Because black people were put like Alice
34:22Johnson for 50 years that somebody else
34:25would have been not even gone to jail.
34:26>> Well, the big the biggest thing is
34:27employment and you've got black women
34:29over 300,000
34:31lost their federal jobs. Obviously, you
34:33told me, you said, "But they're
34:34flourishing in the private sector." You
34:36said they're flourishing in the private
34:37sector. They tell me that's not true.
34:40True. That's what they say.
34:42>> And they're getting more money. Look,
34:44you can't have a federal government
34:46where you have 10 people to do one job.
34:48The federal government and and if I
34:50wanted to leave [snorts] everybody in
34:52the federal government and the system,
34:54you'd have a country that would fail.
34:56Those people, for the most part, went
34:58out and got better jobs, better paying
35:00job, and they liked the job more. They
35:02love going to work as opposed to working
35:04for the federal government where you sit
35:06around doing nothing. Somebody had to do
35:08something about it, and I did it. um
35:11black women, black men, and you know, I
35:13did very well with
35:14>> black men. You did black men. You did
35:15well with them in 2024. They didn't do
35:17so well in the midterms.
35:19>> They didn't vote for me in the midterms.
35:20I wasn't on the ballot. I was on the
35:22ballot on 24. Again, I wasn't on the
35:24ballot. It's a big difference when I'm
35:26on the ballot. All three times that I've
35:29been on the ballot, I won big.
35:30>> You campaigned everywhere for everybody
35:32on the GOP. I mean, you were all over
35:33the place.
35:34>> And you know what?
35:34>> And you said, "Put me on the ballot."
35:36Plus, you campaigned.
35:37>> They would have done worse. If I didn't
35:39campaign, they would have done worse.
35:40You had a lot of very close elections,
35:42but like we did great in uh with Byron
35:46in [clears throat]
35:47>> in Florida. Byron.
35:49>> Byron Donald. Yes.
35:50>> Yeah. In Florida, he's a great guy. He's
35:52a black man. I got He needed
35:54>> There's a black US senator in the state
35:56of Mississippi for the first time since
35:59reconstruction. Mr. President,
36:01>> I I don't know the gentleman, but I give
36:02him credit.
36:03>> And you know what he did? He campaigned
36:05on lines. I give him a lot of credit for
36:08this. He campaigned on the lines. I
36:09heard it the other day where I had a
36:12rally there and we had lines that went
36:1410 [snorts] miles long and he campaigned
36:17on that line telling everybody on the
36:18line what a good job he did. I give him
36:20a lot of credit for that. I don't know.
36:21>> You know, you say something. I got a
36:23question. You're going to
36:25You say you weren't on the ballot. Let
36:27me ask you a question, Mr. President.
36:30Let's say hypothetically
36:33that because I don't want to hear about
36:34circumventing the 22nd amendment of the
36:36constitution and running for a third
36:37term. No, let's just speak in
36:39hypotheticals.
36:41If you could run for president again,
36:44so could Barack Obama,
36:47what would Donald Trump do if he had to
36:50square off against Barack Obama for the
36:54presidency of the United States? Well, I
36:56got what if that was
36:57>> I got many more votes than he got and I
36:59got many more votes uh in the states and
37:02I have all the state, you know, most of
37:04the state records of the big states. If
37:05you take a look at uh Texas, I have the
37:08all-time record. Florida, I have the
37:10all-time record.
37:10>> Are you saying you would beat Obama?
37:13>> Yeah, I think I'd beat him easily. Yeah.
37:15>> Easily.
37:16>> I think he's highly overrated. Yeah.
37:18>> Oh my lord. How is How is Barack Obama
37:20overrated?
37:21>> I just think that's just my opinion. I
37:23think he's overrated. I didn't think he
37:24was a good president. I thought he was a
37:26divider.
37:27>> A divider.
37:28>> Yeah.
37:28>> And what would you classify yourself as
37:30being?
37:30>> Uh as a person that brings people
37:32together.
37:34>> And you bring people together. How?
37:36>> True success. Because our country is so
37:38successful. And you're going to see the
37:40results pretty much starting now because
37:42of the trillions of dollars. We have
37:4522.2
37:47trillion dollars being invested in the
37:49United States. And
37:50>> billion or trillion?
37:52>> Trillion. Trillion. I'm going to just
37:54make it short.
37:54>> We have 22 trillion. It's the biggest
37:57number ever in history by many times.
37:59Not just by a little bit, by many times.
38:02Um, and the worth other than the hit we
38:06took the day after the election where $3
38:08trillion was lost. We've created 25
38:12trillion dollars worth of value worth,
38:15if you call it worth, between stock
38:17markets and values. the worth of the
38:21United States gained in a a short period
38:24of time, less than two years, over$25
38:27trillion dollars. Under Biden, it was
38:30losing money. I mean, you were going to
38:32I'll tell you what, I don't think this
38:34country would have survived had Harris
38:37gotten in. Kamla, had she gotten in, I
38:39think this country would have failed.
38:41What we've done to turn this country
38:42around is incredible. And one other
38:45thing, the border. People were pouring
38:47into our country, it was like water. Uh,
38:49I stop. For the last 17 months, think of
38:52this.
38:53>> For the last 17 months, we had zero
38:56people coming into our country
38:57illegally.
38:58>> Mhm.
38:59>> Go ahead. What are you looking for?
39:00>> Because I'm looking I got it right here.
39:02I want to ask you a question about
39:04Steven Miller.
39:05>> Okay.
39:06>> Because he's your new chief of staff.
39:08>> Yeah, that's good, man.
39:08>> Um, this I don't know him. I'm not going
39:10to comment about him. I know that I
39:12don't like things that I've read about
39:13Project 2025, but that's that's a
39:15subject for another day. Yes, but I
39:17would ask you this about Steven Miller.
39:19Let me ask you this.
39:20>> I'm thinking about a guy in Steven
39:22Miller that was essentially the ar I
39:25wouldn't say the architect, but he was
39:27very heavily behind everything that
39:28transpired with immigration. There is no
39:30question that people look at what you
39:32did with the border. And nobody can
39:34refute that. I, you know, I've been on a
39:36record stating that. But on the
39:38>> we've got 18 months with not one person
39:41coming in through the southern border
39:43illegally. Meaning no criminals, no
39:45murderers, no drug dealers, no people
39:48from mental institutions who were
39:49pouring into our country. By the way,
39:51should I put this away now?
39:52>> You can put that away. I got I got my
39:54own thing to read. I have another two
39:55pages. Let me give you I could read for
39:58another 10 minutes.
39:59>> Let me give you some background about
40:00Stephen Miller because you know it. So
40:02I'm gonna read I'm gonna regurgitate
40:03this. leading supporter of Trump first
40:06term zero tolerance immigration policy
40:09in 2018 resulting in thousands of family
40:11separations pressed dramatic reductions
40:13in refugee admissions champion
40:16administration's immigration enforcement
40:17expansion supported by approximately 170
40:20billion that Republicans allocated in
40:22the big beautiful bill developed and
40:25defended the administration's executive
40:27order that restricted entry by nationals
40:30of several Muslim majority countries
40:32advocated for penalizing legal
40:35immigrants who received public benefits
40:37and making it harder for them to obtain
40:39citizenship and in the second term
40:41pushed ICE to make at least 3,000
40:43immigration arrest per day. I want to
40:47say for the record, I've asked Steven
40:48Miller to sit down with me and interview
40:50me. He is defend but I'm asking you
40:53please defend that.
40:54>> So we had people in our country that if
40:57we didn't have ICE they would still be
40:59here. They were murderers. So we had
41:02thousands and thousands of murderers
41:05brought into our country. Many of them
41:06murdered more than one person. Those
41:09people had to get out. We brought them
41:10out. When you talk about detention,
41:13Obama is the one that built the jails.
41:15You know the jails for the kids, they
41:16all said Trump built it. And then
41:18somebody got up and said, "No, actually
41:19they were built during Barack Hussein
41:21Obama and Obama built those jails." You
41:24know, they gave me a bad rap with the
41:26jails. And all of a sudden, and these
41:28are jails for children, and all of a
41:30sudden it turned out that it was Obama
41:32that built those jails for the children.
41:35Uh we have now gotten out some of the
41:38worst criminals. Trend Aragua, which is
41:40a gang that makes our gangs look like
41:42nice people. We've gotten out some of
41:44the worst people in the world out of our
41:46country. Murderers, rapists, the worst
41:48people, the worst drug dealers anywhere
41:50in the world. The biggest drug dealers
41:52in the world. They came into our
41:54country. They're gone. Some of them are
41:56so bad we actually put them in our
41:58jails. I don't want them in our jails
41:59because I don't want to have to afford
42:00them for the next 50 years. But we have
42:03murderers that were so violent and so
42:05bad. You look at Trend Aaragua, they
42:08make the Hell's Angels look like the
42:09nicest people on earth and the Hell's
42:11Angels actually support me. So I have to
42:13be very careful.
42:13>> I want I want to get last question, last
42:15couple of questions. Number one, legacy
42:17because I'm thinking about Steven
42:18Miller. I'm thinking about your dealings
42:20with the Democrats in the final years.
42:23You just said nobody else could have
42:24done it.
42:25>> The border was an open wound. The
42:28world's criminals,
42:28>> but nobody's questioning you on the
42:30border. They're questioning what was
42:31happening in the streets of America with
42:32ICE. And as a result, when you take
42:34Steven Miller into consideration and now
42:36he's going to have to deal with the
42:37Democrat as
42:39I got rid of the murderers. I got rid of
42:41the drug dealers. I got rid of really
42:43bad people.
42:44>> Okay. So, I'm saying moving forward
42:46because people obviously did what they
42:49did during the midterms and you have the
42:51Democrats to deal But I'm thinking about
42:52the legacy of Donald Trump, what it was
42:55when you first arrived. What do you
42:57think it's going to be since you got two
43:00more years?
43:01>> I think it's going to be, and I actually
43:03said this on 60 Minutes. You said, "What
43:05would be the legacy?" I said, "I think
43:08it will go down as somebody that made
43:11America great again. I've made America
43:13great again. We have a strong country.
43:15We have never been stronger. We have uh
43:18tremendous industry being built. All of
43:21those people that you say with the jobs
43:23are all going to have great paying jobs
43:24and they're going to be working in
43:26plants and factories and and hotels and
43:28everything that are all under
43:29construction and being built. Uh we have
43:32the largest investment in the history of
43:34the world. There's never been a country
43:36with $22 trillion being invested. Never
43:39been in one in a short period of time.
43:41>> Democrats are not saying this. They're
43:42not saying this.
43:43>> Well, they don't say it because they
43:44failed. Look, our country was dead two
43:48years ago under Biden. Our country was
43:50dead. We had a dead country. Our country
43:53was gone to hell. And I say it all the
43:55time. Leaders of the world tell me, but
43:58the king of Saudi Arabia told me a short
44:00while ago, he said, "You know, it's
44:01amazing. Two years ago, your country was
44:03dead. We thought it was dead. They
44:05didn't want to invest. They didn't want
44:07to invest at all. Now you have the
44:09hottest country anywhere in the world."
44:10We are the hottest country. You're
44:11hotter now than you were two years ago.
44:13Let me tell you, you're doing very well.
44:15Are you going to run for office? So, so
44:18I would keep your life the way it is.
44:19You know what? You'll find it very nasty
44:21if you do.
44:22>> You told me that weeks ago and I totally
44:24believe you. Before I let you get on out
44:26of here, shifting Jensen.
44:29>> Yeah.
44:29>> Vidia resigned as CEO.
44:32>> Say it.
44:33>> Um, your feelings about that.
44:35>> Well, he's a tremendous talent. He did
44:37something that nobody else, you know,
44:39you have China and these they copy. They
44:41pirate so much. Here's a chip that's so
44:44complex, so brilliant that you can't
44:46copy it. I mean it's beyond copying
44:48because of their level of genius. Um
44:51what he's done is incredible. He built
44:53an incredible
44:55uh Nvidia is unbelievable.
44:56>> Should he have stepped down?
45:00>> Well, the big thing is was the woman a
45:03spy? And I don't know if that's been
45:05determined yet, but if the woman was a
45:08spy, yes. If the woman was not a spy,
45:10perhaps it would be different. But uh I
45:13can tell you this,
45:15somehow he'll end up in his feet. I
45:18mean, I know him. I know him pretty
45:19well. I always thought of him as a fine
45:22man. He's uh I spoke to him yesterday.
45:25He's he's going through hell. Uh what he
45:28feels most badly about is his wife and
45:30family. That's what he is really uh
45:33that's what he told me. I mean, in
45:36strongest, he called me as the
45:37president. I'm president. and he called
45:39me and he said, "Uh, what I've done to
45:43my wife and family is is that's what he
45:46talked about.
45:46>> Can he be replaced?"
45:48>> Uh, well, you know, the expression,
45:50anybody can be replaced. So, it's very
45:53hard to replace him, but I had an idea
45:56this morning that I sort of just
45:58released. Tim Cook, he just sort of
46:01semi-retired from Apple. He's done one
46:03of the greatest jobs in the history of
46:05business. I think if Tim Cook, who built
46:08Apple, uh if Steve Jobs were around,
46:12Apple would never be what it is today.
46:13Tim Cook took a lot of these brilliant
46:15ideas and designs and everything else
46:17from Jobs and others and he made it into
46:21one of the great companies of the world
46:22in a fairly short. I think Tim Cook
46:25would be a great candidate to run
46:27Nvidia.
46:28>> What about you over your last two years
46:30in office? What are you going to do
46:32dealing with the Democrats? Are you is
46:35there anything that you change? Is there
46:36anything that you're going to do
46:37differently? Are you willing to work
46:39with them? I know you said you have.
46:40You're willing to work.
46:41>> So, I'm going to be I'm going to be
46:42vetoing a lot of things that they're
46:45going to send me initially that are bad
46:47for the country. And I think eventually
46:49they're going to call in. They're going
46:50to say, "Let's make a deal, and we'll be
46:51able to make deals on uh on health care,
46:55on drug prices." Again,
46:58I took the highest drug prices in the
47:01entire world, Stephen. We paid the
47:04highest. You've heard that for years. We
47:06were we were screwed by the entire
47:08world. And now we pay the lowest drug
47:11prices in the entire world. I use
47:15tariffs on that. By the way, I said to
47:17companies and countries, first I had to
47:18get the companies, but they weren't
47:20worried because they said they'll never
47:21get the countries. And I went to the
47:23countries. I went to France and Germany
47:25and all these different places by
47:27telephone, in some cases in person. I
47:29said, "You're going to have to double
47:30and triple your drug prices because ours
47:34are 10 times what they should be, and
47:37we're not going to do it any longer."
47:38And they said, "No, no, no." And I said,
47:39"That's okay. I'm going to charge your
47:41country massive tariffs until such time
47:44as you make that change." And every
47:46single one of them made the change. So,
47:47we went from the highest drug prices
47:50anywhere in the world to now we pay the
47:53lowest drug prices anywhere in the
47:54world. Sounds like you're doubling down.
47:56That is going to have a huge impact on
47:58healthcare and other things. And I'll
48:00work with the Democrats on that.
48:01>> It sounds like you believe that you have
48:03been right all along. You're not budging
48:05one bit. You're going to double down,
48:06which means that the Democrats
48:09and you it's going to be more chaos over
48:11the next two years.
48:12>> Or they may work with me because I think
48:13they want to see good healthcare. We
48:15have terrible healthare. What about
48:17immigration reform? Anybody could do it.
48:19You could do it.
48:19>> It's possible. I mean, look, it's
48:20possible.
48:21>> You will keep yourself open to that?
48:22>> There are things I'm not going to
48:23negotiate it now, but there are things
48:25could be done with immigration that
48:26would be very positive.
48:30>> Thank you very much.
48:31>> Thank you so much for the time.
48:32>> Thank you, Stephen. Vision.

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