One on One with Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, Author, "What The Eyes Don't See" — Transcript
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- 0:00here's the plan this happened in Flint
- 0:06but this can happen anywhere you know I
- 0:08did this research and it was all based
- 0:10on numbers and statistics and and the
- 0:13science of the data but I realized that
- 0:16every single number in my research was a
- 0:19kid
- 0:19dr. mona hanna-attisha or dr. mona as
- 0:23she's called is a pediatrician at
- 0:25Flint's public hospital and a professor
- 0:27at Michigan State University's College
- 0:29of Medicine in 2014 a high school friend
- 0:32who worked with the EPA told dr. Mona
- 0:35about concerns that their drinking water
- 0:36in Flint was tainted with lead it was at
- 0:40that same time the city changed its
- 0:42water source from the Great Lakes to the
- 0:44nearby Flint River in an effort to save
- 0:46money tests later revealed elevated
- 0:49levels of lead in their water coming
- 0:51from the river as a pediatrician you
- 0:54know I literally took an oath to protect
- 0:55children I took an oath to make sure
- 0:58that they're not only healthy today but
- 1:00that they have the healthiest future
- 1:02ahead of them
- 1:03fueled by her passion to help her young
- 1:06patients dr. Mona along with a few
- 1:08allies and experts looked for answers
- 1:10she was either ignored or denied access
- 1:13to records and data she did her own
- 1:15research and found evidence that
- 1:17supported her friends claim is results
- 1:20are concerning and when our national
- 1:23guiding organizations tell us primary
- 1:26prevention is the most important thing
- 1:27and that lead poisoning is potentially
- 1:29irreversible then we have to say
- 1:32something for high-risk groups
- 1:34especially those infants who are on the
- 1:36formula and the pregnant moms we we
- 1:39would say no tap water after going
- 1:42public with her findings state officials
- 1:44refuted her claims which made her fight
- 1:46back even harder she eventually
- 1:49testified before Congress along with
- 1:51fellow flynch crusader single mom leanne
- 1:54walters and yes the the levels of lead
- 1:56in my water were higher than hazardous
- 1:58waste levels she had complained of her
- 2:01tap water smelling and tasting foul and
- 2:03brought it to the attention of
- 2:05washington DC water expert
- 2:07Edwards together they brought the crisis
- 2:09to light then President Barack Obama
- 2:12drank filtered Flint water to reassure
- 2:15residents as he sent millions of dollars
- 2:17in federal aid to the water crippled
- 2:19city yeah the water around this table
- 2:21you know was Flint water that was
- 2:24filtered and it just confirms what we
- 2:27know scientifically which is that if
- 2:31you're using a filter if you're
- 2:32installing it then Flint water at this
- 2:35point is drinkable that does not I want
- 2:40to repeat and negate the need for us to
- 2:42go ahead and replace some of these pipes
- 2:44scientists with Missouri American water
- 2:46were called to Flint to help in their
- 2:48creature lives they run 300 tests a
- 2:51month we are testing every day here
- 2:54looking for things in the water that
- 2:55could immediately make people sick
- 2:57things like e.coli or coliform or
- 2:59whatever kind of bacteria might show up
- 3:00in a water sample so we're testing the
- 3:03raw river water we're testing it as it
- 3:05goes through our distribution system
- 3:06we're testing the taps here on our
- 3:08premises and then we actually go out
- 3:09into the community and we have partners
- 3:11out there where we'll take samples of
- 3:12their tap water because we want to make
- 3:14sure the water as it gets to the
- 3:15customer is the same as it leaves our
- 3:17facility Brian Russell with Missouri
- 3:19American Water says most pipes are
- 3:21lead-free in the st. Louis metro area
- 3:23however if any lead is found in a
- 3:25service line they'll replace it for free
- 3:27if you have questions about what's in
- 3:29your water we actually produce an annual
- 3:31it's called a consumer confidence report
- 3:32basically we're showing you what we find
- 3:35in our water every year it's posted on
- 3:37our website every water systems required
- 3:38to share with their customers so if you
- 3:40have any questions you can get on our
- 3:41website mo a.m. water common flinch has
- 3:44replaced more than six thousand lead
- 3:46pipes but nearly ten thousand are left
- 3:48state leaders insist the water quality
- 3:51is restored but residents are weary and
- 3:53still drink bottled water dr. Moniz says
- 3:56regaining their trust could take some
- 3:58time this is a story that of where
- 4:01science was was very much denied was
- 4:03disrespected it was ultimately our
- 4:05science that spoke truth to power and we
- 4:08are very much leaning on the incredible
- 4:10science of child development and
- 4:12stress and resilience to make sure that
- 4:14our children succeed two and a half
- 4:17years later dr. Mona recounts her life
- 4:19story the discovery of lead in the water
- 4:22and the disaster aftermath and her book
- 4:24but the eyes don't see next in this
- 4:27first person one-on-one with dr. mona
- 4:29hanna-attisha presented by st. louis
- 4:32county library and eight gctv we are in
- 4:36the plant the central plant of the
- 4:38Missouri American Water in Chesterfield
- 4:40Missouri and dr. mona hanna-attisha
- 4:41thank you so much for joining us he's
- 4:43great to be with you thank you so have
- 4:45you been in a water plant I've been in a
- 4:48water plant before that's great to be
- 4:50here well we're glad to have you here
- 4:51and you know we share with our viewers
- 4:52how misery American Water Works in this
- 4:54filtration system because you know with
- 4:57your book what the eyes don't see you
- 4:59know knowledge is power and you shared
- 5:01that knowledge with us and truly not
- 5:03only gave you power but the Flint
- 5:05Michigan residents as well and the rest
- 5:06of the world
- 5:07do you agree absolutely so the the
- 5:09reason I wrote this book was to to
- 5:11educate folks about about water about
- 5:14environmental and justice about public
- 5:16health issues but really about the power
- 5:18that we all have within us to open our
- 5:21eyes and to create change so it's it's
- 5:24great to be with you and it's great to
- 5:26share that message with folks over here
- 5:28after this arduous journey what's been
- 5:31the most surprising thing that's come
- 5:32out of all this
- 5:33good a minute yes I think the most
- 5:35surprising thing and probably the most
- 5:37positive thing have been all the ripple
- 5:39effects of the Flint water crisis so the
- 5:42Flint water crisis was it was a tragic
- 5:44disaster but we have learned so many
- 5:46lessons that we're hoping to make a
- 5:49difference in other communities so you
- 5:51know city after city is now being
- 5:53informed about their water they're
- 5:55taking action and they're working to
- 5:57protect the health especially of
- 5:58children so that's been kind of the most
- 6:01surprising and the most uplifting thing
- 6:02of this crisis is that we have made an
- 6:05impact at a much broader and greater
- 6:07level and that leads me to my question
- 6:08about what's the latest with Flint
- 6:10Michigan in the water supply that's an
- 6:12update yeah so Flint is still under a
- 6:13public health emergency the people of
- 6:15Flint are still on bottled water or
- 6:18filtered water and that's because our
- 6:20pipes are being replaced
- 6:22so for 18 months we were on this
- 6:24untreated corrosive water
- 6:26that ate up our lead pipes and those
- 6:29were damaged and those need to replace
- 6:31and we've already replaced about 6,000
- 6:33of them which is great and we have about
- 6:349,000 to go and because of that
- 6:37infrastructure earth-moving work it has
- 6:40the potential to disrupt the lead scale
- 6:43that's underneath and for that reason
- 6:44people need to remain unfiltered or
- 6:48bottled water until their pipe is
- 6:49replaced where's the money coming from
- 6:51so the money to replace the pipes is a
- 6:54mix of State dollars and federal dollars
- 6:56to replace those pipes and a great thing
- 6:59that's happened because of Flint is that
- 7:01now the state of Michigan recently
- 7:03passed a rule to work on replacing all
- 7:06of the pipes in the state all of the
- 7:08lead pipes once Flint replaces their
- 7:11lead pipes we're actually only going to
- 7:13be the third city in the nation that's
- 7:14replaced their lead pipes there's lead
- 7:17in plumbing everywhere especially the
- 7:19mid Midwest and the Northeast and we all
- 7:22have to learn from Flint and invest in
- 7:24in the infrastructure work to get the
- 7:26lead out of our plumbing so truly get
- 7:29the lead out the old saying goes is that
- 7:31because of those areas of in West and
- 7:32northeast are more industrialized
- 7:34they're older cities and these older
- 7:36cities used a lot of Ludden plumbing and
- 7:38we actually didn't restrict lead in our
- 7:40service lines which are the main lines
- 7:42that go from the water main to your home
- 7:44until 1986 but we actually didn't
- 7:47restrict lead in our in our fixtures
- 7:49like our faucets are especially our
- 7:51brass fixtures until 2014 so this led in
- 7:55all of our plumbing the release can be
- 7:57minimized with optimal treatment which
- 7:59is called corrosion control but to truly
- 8:01protect folks we should get rid the let
- 8:04out so your pediatrician you come back
- 8:07to your home state of Michigan and
- 8:09settle in Flint which you knew well and
- 8:13people might say why did she do that but
- 8:15because that's your home and I love the
- 8:17fact that you leaved your family life
- 8:18and being an immigrant into the story
- 8:20was that an easy thing to do and to
- 8:23write and why was that important yeah so
- 8:25weaving these different stories was like
- 8:27like walking on a tightrope so it was
- 8:30hard to strike the right balance but it
- 8:32was important for me to share the Flint
- 8:35story in my first verse invoice first
- 8:38person voice but
- 8:39you couldn't really learn about my role
- 8:41in this crisis without learning about me
- 8:43because that has shaped Who I am that
- 8:46has shaped what I do and where I work
- 8:49and my response to this crisis so yes I
- 8:51am a first generation immigrant we came
- 8:53to this country when I was four years
- 8:54old
- 8:55fleeing oppression fleeing tyranny
- 8:58fleeing the dictatorship of Saddam
- 9:00Hussein and I was welcomed into this
- 9:02country with open arms and my family
- 9:05very much lived at American Dream and I
- 9:08have that lens of really waking up every
- 9:10day grateful to be in this country
- 9:12grateful to serve my community but also
- 9:15knowing what what injustice is and
- 9:18knowing what what what you know what
- 9:21people in power can do to vulnerable
- 9:23populations so it was with that
- 9:25perspective that that I do my work and
- 9:27and wrote this book after all the
- 9:30attacks that came after you
- 9:32what was that like at that point was
- 9:33that one of the hardest things to deal
- 9:35with was the backlash part of the story
- 9:37is about the about how to be an activist
- 9:41about how to resist and it's it's not
- 9:44easy it's easier for us to go about our
- 9:47daily jobs to clock in to clock out and
- 9:49to be blind to what's going on around us
- 9:52and it is hard and there was a knot in
- 9:55my stomach that wouldn't go away and my
- 9:57heart rate was up and there were
- 9:58literally times that I just crawled into
- 10:01a ball with the sheets over my head but
- 10:04a spark lit inside me and that spark was
- 10:08the realization that this was not about
- 10:10me and it doesn't matter how I felt it
- 10:13was about it was about kids and it was
- 10:15about their entire future and that is
- 10:17absolutely what woke me up and got me
- 10:19back into this fight let's talk about
- 10:22the government because that was really
- 10:24frustrating to read you would send an
- 10:26email crickets no matter it seen
- 10:28whatever level you sent sent an email to
- 10:30say hey I've got these concerns or I've
- 10:32got these statistics whatever it might
- 10:34be that you were sending them that was
- 10:37just it seemed unconscionable yeah it's
- 10:38mind-boggling and that gets at the title
- 10:41of this book what the eyes don't see
- 10:42because it's about people and problems
- 10:45and places that we just choose not to
- 10:49see that we choose to ignore you know
- 10:52let's you know we don't have
- 10:53to answer that their emails those are
- 10:54those people in that far away city you
- 10:57know they're gonna be okay this is just
- 10:59temporary
- 11:00and that's not right that is part of our
- 11:02role in the Civic Society is being
- 11:04engaged and caring for the most
- 11:06vulnerable among us and you had support
- 11:08from your family that had to be huge
- 11:10because that it's really hard to do
- 11:12something just alone and your hospital I
- 11:14was really impressed with some of your
- 11:16administrators who back to you when the
- 11:19going went tough absolutely I was lucky
- 11:22and another kind of lesson of the story
- 11:23is the value of team you've building a
- 11:27village around you and you are never
- 11:29alone sometimes we think we are alone in
- 11:31our struggles but we sometimes have to
- 11:33kind of get out of our boxes and we find
- 11:36folks who look different than us and
- 11:38have different professionals than us but
- 11:40really care about the same things that
- 11:42we care about so it's important to work
- 11:45together to solve problems so you hold a
- 11:47press conference that the hospital does
- 11:49which is affiliated with the University
- 11:51so you've got some politics going on
- 11:54there because the university is kind of
- 11:55balking somewhat they write if every
- 11:58freshman they they they didn't really
- 12:00know the scope of the problem they
- 12:01weren't as informed right so you have
- 12:03your study that you did and it was
- 12:05basically as a pediatrician looking at
- 12:07the health concerns of the children that
- 12:09you're saying correct
- 12:10so as you're as you're doing this press
- 12:14conference you're getting some of the
- 12:17state and local government officials are
- 12:19freaking out basically or as you put it
- 12:21going nuts and what helped you propel
- 12:25you to just let's let's move on and
- 12:27let's just do this thing yeah once again
- 12:29it was the kids so as a pediatrician you
- 12:32know I literally took an oath to protect
- 12:34children I took an oath to make sure
- 12:36that they're not only healthy today but
- 12:38that they have the healthiest future
- 12:40ahead of them holding a press conference
- 12:42is not what doctors usually do it was
- 12:46kind of a form of academic disobedience
- 12:48when you when you do research you're
- 12:49supposed to publish and present and it's
- 12:51supposed to go through that peer-review
- 12:52process but that takes a long time and
- 12:55our children did not have another day
- 12:57but it was my very much my professional
- 13:00obligation but also my moral and my
- 13:03ethical obligation to stand up for these
- 13:05kids
- 13:06these were children who who no fault of
- 13:09their own lived in a city that was
- 13:11almost bankrupt that lost democracy that
- 13:14didn't treat its water properly and you
- 13:17know that the two live in a city - you
- 13:20know that should not be the consequence
- 13:22of your future you know we had the kids
- 13:25it was not their fault and as a
- 13:27pediatrician it's my job to be their
- 13:29advocate and to use my voice for them
- 13:31wonderful could you ever threatt feel
- 13:33threatened all through this process um
- 13:37not really
- 13:38you know I people were worried about me
- 13:41especially my mom they were really
- 13:44worried especially after the you know
- 13:46the backlash happened and people's jobs
- 13:48were lost but I've never felt threatened
- 13:51maybe you know I should but I can't live
- 13:54my life that that way I need you know
- 13:56it's all about moving forward and you
- 13:58had the whole community behind you - I
- 14:00mean how could they not go behind you
- 14:01except for those who wanted to put
- 14:04everything under there under the rug
- 14:05we're just horrifying are you still
- 14:07working at the clinic absolutely so I am
- 14:09still a pediatrician I still take care
- 14:12of kids but more importantly I have the
- 14:14privilege and the honor of directing a
- 14:16lot of our recovery work so I now direct
- 14:19the pediatric public health initiative
- 14:20where we are building a model public
- 14:23health program to make sure that our
- 14:25kids not only recover but thrive this
- 14:28book is also so much about a story of
- 14:30hope and we are using science based
- 14:34interventions evidence-based
- 14:35interventions to make sure that we do
- 14:38not see the consequences of this crisis
- 14:39this is a story that of where science
- 14:42was was very much denied was
- 14:44disrespected it was ultimately our
- 14:46science that spoke truth to power and we
- 14:49are very much leaning on the incredible
- 14:51science of child development and toxic
- 14:54stress and resilience to make sure that
- 14:56our children succeed it's wonderful know
- 14:58you went to Congress a couple of times
- 14:59right and testified what was that like
- 15:01um it was surreal
- 15:03so much of what's happened over these
- 15:05last few years have been did that just
- 15:07happen like pin let me pinch myself but
- 15:10you know that once again was a privilege
- 15:12to be able to to share what happened and
- 15:14hopefully to inform our legislators
- 15:17about what was going on but really to
- 15:20kind of the national implications that
- 15:22this happened in Flint but this can
- 15:24happen anywhere because all over the
- 15:26country we we have places that are
- 15:28losing democracy we have places where
- 15:30infrastructure is deteriorating we have
- 15:33ongoing environmental and Justices we
- 15:35have a disrespect for science so Flint
- 15:37is not alone and it was important to
- 15:39share the story of Flint to make sure
- 15:41that we can proactively take action so
- 15:43that we see no more Flint's I mean I
- 15:46guess it was somewhat altruistic
- 15:48initially to change the water source to
- 15:50save money for quote the residents but
- 15:54oh and I want to talk about your head
- 15:56shaking at that had that one press
- 15:58conference in fact it was brought out in
- 16:01national media as well but yeah I had to
- 16:04I had to look that up and sure enough
- 16:05they're giving spewing out some
- 16:07statistics and you're going wrong and
- 16:09that really kind of got you some more
- 16:11attention didn't ya unexpectedly so
- 16:13absolutely so I've never had a poker
- 16:15face and if I don't agree with something
- 16:18you see it and and you know they were
- 16:20there was efforts to minimize the crisis
- 16:22and I didn't agree with it so I shook my
- 16:24head so what happened after that at that
- 16:27point people came to you said well she's
- 16:30agreeing with the guard that's at the
- 16:31podium so you know I right away shot off
- 16:35an email to the governor's office saying
- 16:37hey you know this this is not right you
- 16:39know these statistics are not right and
- 16:42then once again spoke with the media and
- 16:44really tried to clarify things let's
- 16:46talk about the current political climate
- 16:48has it impacted Flint in any way
- 16:50absolutely the current political climate
- 16:54has set up the recipe for more Flint's
- 16:57to come because of what's happening with
- 17:01the EPA really kind of almost
- 17:03permanently dismantling the EPA
- 17:04threatened cuts to regulations that
- 17:07protect our air and our water the epa
- 17:10has this incredible opportunity to learn
- 17:11from flint and to strengthen the rule
- 17:14the lead and copper rule which governs
- 17:15lead and water that rule is weak that
- 17:18rule has not caught up with a science of
- 17:20no safe level of lead exposure so there
- 17:23is an opportunity right now to
- 17:25strengthen that and the epa has taken a
- 17:27pass they are not tightening that
- 17:29regulation so there's a concern about
- 17:31what's happening nationally not only to
- 17:33our mental regulations but public health
- 17:35funding access to health care through
- 17:39the ACA that all continued threats of
- 17:42that repeal children's health insurance
- 17:44other programs that support our most
- 17:46vulnerable populations so all of this is
- 17:49connected to Flint and to our recovery
- 17:51but also other communities where
- 17:53children throughout our country suffer
- 17:55from very similar toxicities so it could
- 17:58be LED exposure but it could also be
- 17:59poverty or exposure to violence or lack
- 18:02of nutrition so there are so many
- 18:04children waking up with very similar
- 18:06situations as children in Flint and and
- 18:09we can fix it we can proactively address
- 18:11that so nobody has to go through these
- 18:13situations how are the kids doing how
- 18:15have you seeing a difference and those
- 18:16numbers are going down in terms of lead
- 18:19contamination absolutely so since we you
- 18:22know since we share the information
- 18:23publicly that there was lead and water
- 18:25you know people have taken precautions
- 18:26there's filters there was bottled water
- 18:28delivery children's lead levels went
- 18:31down after that that was a great public
- 18:33health success story and we are in a
- 18:36very objective way quantifying how the
- 18:39kids of Flint are doing actually how the
- 18:40whole population is doing we were
- 18:42recently funded by the Centers for
- 18:43Disease Control to build a flint
- 18:45registry very much like other exposure
- 18:48based registries like the World Trade
- 18:50Center registry this is going to be our
- 18:52way to share how how Flint kids are
- 18:55doing and how fun kids are adult helpful
- 18:57adults are doing but unlike other
- 18:59registries that just track folks the
- 19:02point of this registry is to get people
- 19:03connected to all the awesome services
- 19:06and resources we've been able to bring
- 19:08in so that in five 10 15 years I hope to
- 19:11share with you not the consequences of
- 19:14this crisis but rather the consequences
- 19:17of our proactive and positive work to
- 19:19limit the impact of this crisis and then
- 19:22we also hope to share our best practices
- 19:23with other cities that are suffering
- 19:25from very similar issues we take tap
- 19:28water for granted don't we who doesn't
- 19:30it is America it is the 21st century
- 19:33Michigan is the this is a mitten state
- 19:36we are literally surrounded by the Great
- 19:38Lakes surrounded by the largest source
- 19:40of fresh water in the world and I wasn't
- 19:43naive to start but but who doesn't think
- 19:45that when you turn on your
- 19:47tap it comes up out okay in my head I
- 19:50imagined the scientists like the ones
- 19:52who work here with test tubes in their
- 19:54hands making sure that our water is safe
- 19:57so this is this is not this is not
- 20:01America this is not this century I talk
- 20:03a lot my book about about the history of
- 20:05public health I talk about the cholera
- 20:07epidemics of London in the nineteenth
- 20:09century and we've learned so much since
- 20:12then we now know how to disinfect water
- 20:13and treat water but we have to make sure
- 20:16that the treatment of water is the the
- 20:18purpose of that is public health and not
- 20:20minimal compliance you kind of mentioned
- 20:22this early but what would you hope a
- 20:23reader would take away from your book
- 20:25I hope the reader takes away the the
- 20:27terrible lessons from Flint but more
- 20:29importantly I wrote this book to share
- 20:32with readers the role of activism the
- 20:35role of being defiant the role of being
- 20:37informed and awake and alert and
- 20:40involved in your communities I we are at
- 20:43a time in our nation of growing
- 20:45movements people are waking up people
- 20:48are getting involved in their
- 20:49communities so I want readers to know
- 20:51that this is not just a story about
- 20:52Flint but this is a story about how you
- 20:54can get involved in your communities and
- 20:57and make the lives of especially our
- 20:59most vulnerable children better wherever
- 21:01you are dr. Mona he's your pediatrician
- 21:04but you're sounding less like a doctor
- 21:05more like a politician do you think
- 21:07you'll ever run for office no I am
- 21:09committed to to my kids in Flint and I'm
- 21:12committed to kids everywhere so not at
- 21:14this time still your true love isn't it
- 21:16absolutely I you know I wake up every
- 21:19day and it's not work I am privileged
- 21:21and I honored to care for children they
- 21:24inspire me they're the ones that wake me
- 21:26up every day
- 21:26so where do things stand now with your
- 21:29role in with the water crisis that's
- 21:32continuing because they're still trying
- 21:33to climb on the ladder there are you
- 21:36totally committed to being a doctor
- 21:37there or do they call on you i direct
- 21:40this new public health initiative and
- 21:42that's where i spend most of my time
- 21:44not as much taking care of that one kid
- 21:46at a time but taking care of the
- 21:48population of children so I've gone from
- 21:51holding one little hand to really hold
- 21:53in the hands of of the city of children
- 21:55I'm so working on those big public
- 21:58health initiatives things like early
- 21:59literacy programs
- 22:00and access to health care and nutrition
- 22:03services so all these things that we
- 22:05know promote children's development the
- 22:08reason I wrote this book over two years
- 22:10ago when I started writing this book
- 22:11because I knew the nation's attention on
- 22:14Flint with fade understandably there's
- 22:16other things in the news but I wanted a
- 22:19vehicle to put a spotlight back on Flint
- 22:21to remind people that hey Flint is still
- 22:23here we have long term needs and long
- 22:26term resources but we are also doing
- 22:29awesome things and Flint does not equal
- 22:31disaster Flint equals recovery and hope
- 22:34and it's happening it is happening we
- 22:36are doing great things and that aren't
- 22:38really being done anywhere in the
- 22:40country and that's what we want to share
- 22:42we want to share how how you know we
- 22:44rolled up our sleeves we took this
- 22:46tragedy we rolled up - I rolled up our
- 22:48sleeves really committed to the children
- 22:51and you know going back to the early
- 22:53stages of we write in the book you
- 22:56really went back to your roots as a high
- 22:58school and you were somewhat of an
- 22:59activist then and your and your dear
- 23:02friend that you grew up with you said
- 23:03you had two girlfriends and one of them
- 23:04was with the EPA absolute and she said
- 23:06hey this is kind of happening and you
- 23:08know alert yeah so my my involvement in
- 23:11this water crisis really came late in
- 23:13the game and it happened out of really
- 23:15pure serendipity hanging out with two
- 23:17high school girlfriends so hang out with
- 23:19your hang out with your girlfriends and
- 23:21one of them happened to be a water
- 23:23expert Elin Bhutan's oh and she used to
- 23:26work at the EPA she used to work at the
- 23:28EPA in Washington DC when Washington DC
- 23:31had a very similar lead and water crisis
- 23:33about a decade ago
- 23:34and she's the one that that taught me
- 23:36many lessons about water but told me for
- 23:40the first time about the possibility of
- 23:41leads and water yeah you wouldn't think
- 23:43in this day and age we'd still have the
- 23:44lid I mean what we said of the chip and
- 23:46you talk about this in the book the lead
- 23:47paint from windows cells and what have
- 23:48you
- 23:49and I thought it was one of some of the
- 23:50scientists well that were saying I won't
- 23:52be in the water may be in the paint
- 23:53right absolutely so I didn't even know
- 23:56before this water crisis that we had
- 23:58lead in our plumbing I didn't even know
- 24:00that there was led in the plumbing and I
- 24:01am a pediatrician with an environmental
- 24:04and public health background and I had
- 24:06no idea only after this unfolded did I
- 24:08realize that the actual word lead means
- 24:11plumbing the elemental Saburo of lettuce
- 24:13pee
- 24:14which comes from the Latin plumbum which
- 24:16means plumbing the Romans built their
- 24:19aqueducts out of lead plumbing and many
- 24:21people hypothesize the demise of the
- 24:23Romans is because they use so much lead
- 24:25so we should have always known that
- 24:27there was lead in plumbing and its risks
- 24:29flint was a not the first time we've had
- 24:32a load and water crisis
- 24:33it happened in DC but it's happened
- 24:35really for about a century and a half
- 24:36we've had lemon water crisis ever since
- 24:39we put lead in our plumbing but we have
- 24:41lacked really the political will to make
- 24:44a difference into protection in this
- 24:46case it was about money it was about it
- 24:48was a cost-cutting move it was to save a
- 24:50few bucks that we switched from Great
- 24:53Lakes water to the Flint River water
- 24:55without treating that water properly do
- 24:57you ever tire of this cause or is it
- 25:00just because it's just been so
- 25:01overwhelming for two years and you're
- 25:03raising your family you're trying to see
- 25:04patients yeah no I you know this we
- 25:07conducted this research to look at the
- 25:10children sled levels in record speed it
- 25:12was like two weeks but it should have
- 25:14been like a six-month research project
- 25:15and that's all in the book but in with
- 25:18that same speed of doing that research
- 25:20has been that same urgency since then
- 25:23the urgency to put into place the
- 25:26interventions to protect our children's
- 25:28futures so so it hasn't stopped it
- 25:31continues and and once again I feel
- 25:33grateful and privileged to this work I
- 25:35feel grateful to be able to really
- 25:38protect the potential of our children
- 25:40what's your advice to other activists
- 25:43out there because did you ever feel like
- 25:44I'm the only voice and you know and and
- 25:48but you're saying anybody can be bad
- 25:50yeah absolutely and and that's part of
- 25:53the story is that it was a team of
- 25:54voices you know the the heroes in the
- 25:57story are the activists the the
- 25:59residents of Flint
- 26:00well Liz Walters was at the end Walter
- 26:02is an amazing mom a mom you don't want
- 26:04to mess with she she pushed every button
- 26:06she contacted the EPA she contacted Marc
- 26:10Edwards with the water scientist who
- 26:11came into Flint so it took a team of
- 26:14folks to uncover this crisis activists
- 26:16and pastors and journalists and water
- 26:19experts and I was really that last
- 26:21Domino and but it never should have
- 26:24gotten to me it never should have gotten
- 26:26to the point where
- 26:27children had elevated lead in their
- 26:29blood it should have stopped when that
- 26:31first mom said there's something wrong
- 26:33with my child when there's something
- 26:35wrong with my water so the lessons of
- 26:37this book and the story is that we all
- 26:40are powerful we all have loud voices and
- 26:45we need to keep using our voices and
- 26:47keep pressing every button to create
- 26:50change
- 26:51this is the story of the most important
- 26:54an emblematic environmental and public
- 26:56health disaster of this young century
- 26:58more bluntly it is a story of a
- 27:01government poisoning its own citizens
- 27:03and then lying about it it is a story
- 27:05about what happens when the very people
- 27:07responsible for keeping us safe care
- 27:10more about money and power than they
- 27:12care about us or our children the crisis
- 27:15manifested itself in water and in the
- 27:18bodies of the most vulnerable among us
- 27:20children who drank that water and ate
- 27:23meals cooked with that water in babies
- 27:25who guzzled bottles of formula mixed
- 27:28with that water the government tried
- 27:30hard to convince parents the water was
- 27:32fine safe when it wasn't but this is
- 27:36also a story about the deeper crises
- 27:38we're facing right now in our country a
- 27:40breakdown in democracy the
- 27:43disintegration of critical
- 27:44infrastructure due to inequality and
- 27:46austerity environmental injustice that
- 27:49disproportionately affects the poor and
- 27:51black the abandonment of civic
- 27:54responsibility and our deep obligation
- 27:56as human beings to care and provide for
- 28:00each other
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