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  1. 0:02How is money created?
  2. 0:04Where does it come from?
  3. 0:06Who benefits
  4. 0:08and what purpose does it serve?
  5. 0:12>> What is a money system? What is the
  6. 0:14money behind the money system?
  7. 0:17>> For centuries the mechanics of the
  8. 0:18monetary system have remained hidden
  9. 0:21from the prying eyes of the populace.
  10. 0:24Yet its impact both on a national and
  11. 0:26international level
  12. 0:28is perhaps unsurpassed.
  13. 0:32For it is the monetary system that
  14. 0:34provides the foundations for
  15. 0:35international dominance and national
  16. 0:38control.
  17. 0:43Today
  18. 0:44as these very foundations are being
  19. 0:46shaken by crises
  20. 0:48the need for open and honest dialogue on
  21. 0:50the future of the monetary system
  22. 0:53has never been greater.
  23. 0:55>> This economic crisis is like a cancer.
  24. 0:57If you just wait and wait thinking this
  25. 0:59is going to go away just like a cancer
  26. 1:01it's going to grow and it's going to be
  27. 1:03too late. What I would say to everybody
  28. 1:05is get prepared.
  29. 1:07This is not a time right now to
  30. 1:10wishful thinking the government is going
  31. 1:11to sort things out. The governments
  32. 1:12don't rule the world. Goldman Sachs
  33. 1:15rules the world.
  34. 1:17>> Statistical analysis has found that
  35. 1:20every time an empire begins to near its
  36. 1:22own demise you'll find that its currency
  37. 1:25will be debased.
  38. 1:27>> There is no guide to how this whole
  39. 1:28system operates.
  40. 1:30To give you an example a researcher at
  41. 1:32the BBC working on the Robert Peston
  42. 1:33documentary went to the Bank of England
  43. 1:36and said can you give me a you know a
  44. 1:38guide to how money is created
  45. 1:40and they just said no.
  46. 1:42>> This documentary will investigate and
  47. 1:44explain this ever changing system
  48. 1:47and the impact it has both on a national
  49. 1:50and international level.
  50. 2:27>> In 2010, the total UK money supply stood
  51. 2:30at 2.15 trillion pounds.
  52. 2:332.6% of this total was physical cash.
  53. 2:3753.5 billion.
  54. 2:39The rest, 2.1 trillion or 97.4%
  55. 2:43of the total money supply, was
  56. 2:45commercial bank money.
  57. 2:48>> The 3% of money,
  58. 2:50um, is created, uh, through the central
  59. 2:52bank. And that money, essentially, if
  60. 2:56you created a 10-pound note, you could
  61. 2:58sell that to a bank to put into their
  62. 3:00ATM, and the bank would have to repay
  63. 3:03that 10-pound or buy it for 10 pounds.
  64. 3:05There'd be no interest made, uh, charged
  65. 3:07on that money, but that money is then
  66. 3:10essentially transferred to the Treasury.
  67. 3:12And it's a it's a it's a form of
  68. 3:14fundraising,
  69. 3:16um, for the government. It's called
  70. 3:17seigniorage.
  71. 3:27>> When the Bank of England creates a
  72. 3:2910-pound note, it
  73. 3:31cost it about three or four pence to
  74. 3:33actually print that note. And it sells
  75. 3:35it to the high street banks at face
  76. 3:37value, so at 10 pounds.
  77. 3:39And
  78. 3:41the profit, the difference between
  79. 3:43printing the note and actually selling
  80. 3:45it for 10 pounds,
  81. 3:47goes directly to the Treasury.
  82. 3:49So, in effect, all the profit that we
  83. 3:51get on creating
  84. 3:53physical money, uh, uh banknotes,
  85. 3:56goes to the Treasury and it reduces how
  86. 3:58much taxes we have to pay.
  87. 4:00Um over the last 10 years, that's raised
  88. 4:03about 18 billion pounds.
  89. 4:05>> In 1948,
  90. 4:07notes and coins constituted 17% of the
  91. 4:10total money supply.
  92. 4:12This was one contributing factor in the
  93. 4:14government's ability to finance post-war
  94. 4:16reconstruction.
  95. 4:17This included the establishment of the
  96. 4:19NHS.
  97. 4:22In only 60 years, notes and coins have
  98. 4:24shrunk to less than 3%.
  99. 4:33Prior to 1844, banknotes were created by
  100. 4:35private banks and the government did not
  101. 4:38profit from their creation.
  102. 4:41>> Pre-
  103. 4:42industrialization, there was multiple
  104. 4:44forms of money coexisting. And so, the
  105. 4:47kind of rise of kind of
  106. 4:49of government-sponsored fiat money is a
  107. 4:51relatively recent, um phenomenon.
  108. 4:54>> In the 1840s, there was no law to stop
  109. 4:57banks from creating their own banknotes.
  110. 4:59So, they used to issue,
  111. 5:01um paper notes as as kind of a a
  112. 5:04representative of what you had in the
  113. 5:06bank account. Instead of you taking your
  114. 5:08heavy metal coins out of the bank and
  115. 5:10then going and paying somebody with
  116. 5:12them, you could get your paper which
  117. 5:14said how much money you had in the bank
  118. 5:16and you could give that to somebody and
  119. 5:17they could use that to go and get the
  120. 5:18heavy metal coins from the bank.
  121. 5:20Now, over time, these paper notes became
  122. 5:24as good as money. People would use the
  123. 5:26paper notes instead of going and getting
  124. 5:27the real money from the bank. And
  125. 5:30obviously, as soon as the banks realized
  126. 5:32that
  127. 5:33what they were creating had become, you
  128. 5:35know, the dominant type of money in the
  129. 5:37economy, they realized that by by
  130. 5:39creating more of it, they could generate
  131. 5:41profits. You know, they can just print
  132. 5:42up some new notes, lend it and get the
  133. 5:45interest on top of that. And they did
  134. 5:47that, you know, up until the 1840s. In
  135. 5:49the 1840s, they pushed it just a little
  136. 5:51bit too far. And that caused inflation.
  137. 5:53It destabilized the economy.
  138. 5:56So, in 1844,
  139. 5:57the conservative government of Robert
  140. 6:00Peel actually passed a law
  141. 6:03that took the power to create money away
  142. 6:04from the commercial banks
  143. 6:06um and brought it back to the state. So,
  144. 6:08since then, the Bank of England has been
  145. 6:10the only
  146. 6:12organization authorized to to create
  147. 6:15paper notes.
  148. 6:19Since then, everything's gone digital.
  149. 6:21And what we now use as money is the
  150. 6:23digital numbers that commercial banks
  151. 6:25can create out of nothing.
  152. 6:29>> The problem was
  153. 6:31that they did not include in that in
  154. 6:33that legislation um the deposits, the
  155. 6:36demand deposits, um held in banks by
  156. 6:40individuals
  157. 6:41or um electronic forms of money, which
  158. 6:45is essentially what those demand
  159. 6:46deposits are today. Most of the money
  160. 6:49in circulation is is electronic money.
  161. 6:52Um and it's bank it's bank um demand
  162. 6:55deposits
  163. 6:56um that just that that sit in our, you
  164. 6:58know, our accounts. So, in a way, the
  165. 6:59legislation has got needs to catch up
  166. 7:03with developments in in in electronic
  167. 7:05money uh uh and the way that banks
  168. 7:08actually operate.
  169. 7:10>> Money held in bank accounts are called
  170. 7:12demand deposits.
  171. 7:14This is an accounting term the banks use
  172. 7:16credit.
  173. 7:18Banks follow the same process when they
  174. 7:20create loans.
  175. 7:22All money held in bank accounts is an
  176. 7:25accounting entry.
  177. 7:34>> The reality is now that most money is
  178. 7:36not paper and it's not metal coins. It's
  179. 7:39digital. It's just numbers in a computer
  180. 7:41system, you know? It's your Visa debit
  181. 7:43card, it's your electronic, you know,
  182. 7:45ATM card. Um it's this, it's plastic,
  183. 7:49you know? It's numbers in the computer
  184. 7:50system.
  185. 7:51You move money from one computer system
  186. 7:53to another. It's all a big database. And
  187. 7:57this digital money is what we're now
  188. 7:59using to make payments with. It's what
  189. 8:01we actually use to run the economy.
  190. 8:03>> I think a lot of people in the UK
  191. 8:05probably think that the government or
  192. 8:07the central bank um it it is in control
  193. 8:10of most most money in circulation and
  194. 8:13issues new money
  195. 8:15into circulation, but that's uh not the
  196. 8:17case. It's private banks that creates
  197. 8:20the vast majority of new money in
  198. 8:22circulation and also decide uh how it's
  199. 8:25allocated.
  200. 8:30>> The official terminology for this
  201. 8:31accounting entry
  202. 8:33is commercial bank money.
  203. 8:36When banks issue loans to the public,
  204. 8:38they create new commercial bank money.
  205. 8:41When a customer repays a loan,
  206. 8:43commercial bank money is destroyed.
  207. 8:46The banks keep the interest as profit.
  208. 8:50>> There's a lot of misconceptions about
  209. 8:52the way banks work. There was a a poll
  210. 8:54done by the Cobden Centre where they
  211. 8:57asked people, you know, how how they
  212. 9:00thought banks actually operated. Around
  213. 9:0230% of the public think that when you
  214. 9:04put your money into the bank, it just
  215. 9:06stays there and it's safe. And you can
  216. 9:08understand why because, you know, every
  217. 9:10every child has a piggy bank where you
  218. 9:12keep putting money in and then when it's
  219. 9:14a rainy day, you smash it and you take
  220. 9:16that money out and you spend it. So, a
  221. 9:18lot of people keep this this idea of
  222. 9:20banking, you know, it's somewhere safe
  223. 9:22to keep your money so that it's there
  224. 9:23for whenever you need it.
  225. 9:25Um another the other 60% of people
  226. 9:28assume that when you put your money in,
  227. 9:31that money is then being moved across to
  228. 9:33somebody who wants to borrow it. So, you
  229. 9:35have a pensioner who keeps saving money
  230. 9:37her entire life and then her life
  231. 9:40savings have been lent to some, you
  232. 9:42know, young people who want to buy a
  233. 9:43house. But, actually banks don't work
  234. 9:45like that.
  235. 10:05>> At the moment in the UK, money creation
  236. 10:09and control is is largely in the hands
  237. 10:11of private banks.
  238. 10:13About 97 to 98% of money
  239. 10:16that's that's created is is created as
  240. 10:19bank
  241. 10:20bank debt money you could call it
  242. 10:22when banks issue money into circulation
  243. 10:25as as loans, essentially.
  244. 10:27This is very poorly understood fact.
  245. 10:31>> It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not a
  246. 10:35It's not a crackpot theory. It's the way
  247. 10:37the Bank of England describes the
  248. 10:38process. When banks make loans, they
  249. 10:40create new money.
  250. 10:54A few economists will realize the way
  251. 10:57the money system works. But, if you
  252. 10:58don't you don't realize the way that
  253. 11:00money works and you think that, you
  254. 11:02know, everybody saving is going to work
  255. 11:04well for the economy. What really
  256. 11:06happens once you understand the way the
  257. 11:08money system works is that if everybody
  258. 11:09starts saving
  259. 11:11the amount of money in the economy
  260. 11:13shrinks and we have a recession. So,
  261. 11:15most economists don't have this this
  262. 11:17full picture. They don't understand all
  263. 11:19elements of the system. They rely on
  264. 11:22assumptions on, you know, received
  265. 11:25knowledge without actually going into
  266. 11:27the details. And,
  267. 11:29you know, money is money is a center of
  268. 11:31the economy. If you don't understand
  269. 11:33where it comes from, who it creates who
  270. 11:35creates it, and when it gets created,
  271. 11:37then how can you understand the entire
  272. 11:38economy?
  273. 11:46When the vast majority of money that we
  274. 11:48use now is not cash, but it's electronic
  275. 11:51money,
  276. 11:52then whoever's creating the electronic
  277. 11:53money is getting the proceeds of
  278. 11:55creating that money. And obviously,
  279. 11:56creating electronic money is much more
  280. 11:58profitable than creating cash cuz you
  281. 12:00don't have any production cost at all.
  282. 12:03So, while we've got 18 billion over the
  283. 12:06course of a decade
  284. 12:08in profit from creating cash,
  285. 12:10the banks have actually created 1.2
  286. 12:12trillion pounds.
  287. 12:14>> Between 1998 and 2007, the UK money
  288. 12:17supply tripled.
  289. 12:191.2 trillion pounds was created by
  290. 12:21banks,
  291. 12:23whilst 18 billion pounds was created by
  292. 12:25the Treasury.
  293. 12:29>> A lot of people think when I say this,
  294. 12:31or when you say this, or when Positive
  295. 12:32Money say this, that we're all just a
  296. 12:34bunch of nutters. But on the 9th of
  297. 12:36March in 2009,
  298. 12:38the governor of the Federal Reserve, um,
  299. 12:41Ben Bernanke, gave the first ever
  300. 12:43broadcast interview the governor of the
  301. 12:45Central Bank of the United States of
  302. 12:47America had ever given.
  303. 12:49And uh, the day before that, he'd bailed
  304. 12:51out AIG,
  305. 12:52um,
  306. 12:53uh, which is a insurance company, not
  307. 12:55even a bank, actually, to the tune of
  308. 12:57about 160 billion dollars.
  309. 12:59>> So, the journalist system
  310. 13:01Now, Mr. Bernanke, where did you get 160
  311. 13:04billion dollars to bail out AIG?
  312. 13:07>> Is that tax money that the Fed is
  313. 13:08spending? It's not tax money. The banks
  314. 13:11have, um, accounts with the Fed, much
  315. 13:14the same way that you have an account in
  316. 13:16a commercial bank. So, to lend to a
  317. 13:18bank, we simply use the computer to mark
  318. 13:21up the, uh, size of the account that
  319. 13:22they have with the Fed. So, it's much
  320. 13:24more akin,
  321. 13:26uh, although not exactly the same, but
  322. 13:27it's much more akin to printing money
  323. 13:28than it is to borrowing.
  324. 13:32>> Banks create new money
  325. 13:34whenever they extend credit buy existing
  326. 13:37assets or make payments on their own
  327. 13:39account which mostly involves expanding
  328. 13:42their assets.
  329. 13:45When a bank buys securities such as a
  330. 13:47corporate or government bond
  331. 13:49it adds the bond to its assets
  332. 13:52and increases the company's bank
  333. 13:53deposits by the corresponding amount.
  334. 13:58New commercial bank money enters
  335. 13:59circulation when people spend the credit
  336. 14:02that has been granted to them by banks.
  337. 14:06>> I found that
  338. 14:07talking on the doorstep from August last
  339. 14:10year round to August 2009 round to
  340. 14:14the general election 8 9 8 9 months I
  341. 14:17suppose knocking on doors
  342. 14:19is that when you try to explain how the
  343. 14:21money system works
  344. 14:24there's
  345. 14:25an almost inbuilt refusal of people to
  346. 14:28accept that such a bizarre situation
  347. 14:31could actually exist.
  348. 14:34No, it can't possibly, you know.
  349. 14:36You mean it can't banks can't banks
  350. 14:39don't create money out of thin air.
  351. 14:41That's ridiculous. They can't do that.
  352. 14:42They lend out their depositors' money.
  353. 14:45Most people have an idea of of how money
  354. 14:47is. They're used to their own way of
  355. 14:48handling money
  356. 14:50and they try and implement their own
  357. 14:53idea of how how their small household
  358. 14:56economy works
  359. 14:58into the national economy. And of course
  360. 15:00it just doesn't work out. It just
  361. 15:01doesn't work out at all.
  362. 15:03>> By 2008 the outstanding loan portfolio
  363. 15:06of bank created credit also known as
  364. 15:09commercial bank money
  365. 15:11stood at over 2 trillion pounds.
  366. 15:14As recently as 1982 the ratio of notes
  367. 15:17and coins to bank deposits was 1 to 12.
  368. 15:21By 2010 the ratio had risen to 1 to 37.
  369. 15:27That is for every pound of treasury
  370. 15:28created money,
  371. 15:30there was 37 pounds of bank created
  372. 15:32money.
  373. 15:35In the 10 years prior to the 2007
  374. 15:37crisis,
  375. 15:39the UK commercial bank money supply
  376. 15:41expanded by between 7 to 10% every year.
  377. 15:45A growth rate of 7% is the equivalent of
  378. 15:48doubling the money supply every 10
  379. 15:50years.
  380. 15:52>> The amount of money they're creating out
  381. 15:54of nothing is just incredible. 1.2
  382. 15:56trillion in the last 10 years. Um and
  383. 15:59there's that money has been distributed
  384. 16:01according to the priorities of the
  385. 16:03banking sector. You know, not the
  386. 16:05priorities of society.
  387. 16:08>> Banking sector
  388. 16:10itself grew from 1980, 2.5 trillion
  389. 16:14dollars,
  390. 16:16to 40 trillion dollars by assets. In
  391. 16:191980, global bank assets were worth 20
  392. 16:22times the then global economy.
  393. 16:25By 2006, they were worth 75 times,
  394. 16:27according to the UN.
  395. 16:30>> As the following chart shows, total bank
  396. 16:33assets of UK banks as a percentage of
  397. 16:36GDP remained relatively stable at 50 to
  398. 16:3960% up to the end of the 1960s.
  399. 16:43After that, they shot up dramatically.
  400. 16:46>> And the real money in in the world
  401. 16:49to be made today is not by producing
  402. 16:50anything at all. It's simply by forms of
  403. 16:53speculating, basically making money from
  404. 16:55money. That's the most profitable and
  405. 16:57and by far and away
  406. 17:00the the biggest form of of activity of
  407. 17:03economic activity that exists in the
  408. 17:04world today.
  409. 17:07>> Today,
  410. 17:08banks are no longer restricted by how
  411. 17:10much they can lend
  412. 17:12and as such, how much new credit they
  413. 17:14can create out of nothing.
  414. 17:17They are restricted solely by their own
  415. 17:19willingness to lend.
  416. 17:24>> The issue with allowing banks to create
  417. 17:25money uh there's two main issues.
  418. 17:27Firstly, the fact that they create this
  419. 17:29money when they make loans.
  420. 17:31So, it guarantees that, you know, we
  421. 17:33have to borrow all our money for the
  422. 17:35economy from the banks.
  423. 17:38>> As such,
  424. 17:39to have a healthy growing economy, the
  425. 17:41government needs to put in place
  426. 17:42strategies
  427. 17:43to allow for ever-increasing debt.
  428. 17:47>> The only way the government can create
  429. 17:49additional purchasing power is by
  430. 17:51getting itself and us into more debt.
  431. 17:55>> The second big issue with allowing banks
  432. 17:57to create money
  433. 17:59is that they have the incentive to
  434. 18:01always create more. You know, they
  435. 18:03create more money if they issue a loan,
  436. 18:05they get the bonuses and the commissions
  437. 18:07and the incentives to create, you know,
  438. 18:08to lend as much as possible.
  439. 18:10>> You have to develop a sales culture.
  440. 18:12What did they do? They recruited an
  441. 18:14amazing guy, lovely guy, Andy Hornby,
  442. 18:17who came from Asda,
  443. 18:19to turn the bank into a supermarket
  444. 18:22retailing operation.
  445. 18:23>> If you trust bankers to control the
  446. 18:26money supply, the money supply will just
  447. 18:28grow and grow and grow,
  448. 18:30as will the level of debt, until the
  449. 18:31point where it crashes, you know, when
  450. 18:34some people can't repay the debt, and
  451. 18:35then they'll stop lending.
  452. 18:38>> You hear politicians and journalists
  453. 18:40saying, you know, we've we've been
  454. 18:41living beyond our means, we've become
  455. 18:43dependent on debt, we need to rein in
  456. 18:45our spending and live within our means.
  457. 18:48Um it's not possible in the current
  458. 18:50system. You know,
  459. 18:52the reason why everyone is in debt now
  460. 18:54is not because they've been recklessly
  461. 18:55borrowing.
  462. 18:57Um we haven't borrowed all this money
  463. 18:59from, you know, an army of pensioners
  464. 19:00who've been saving up their whole whole
  465. 19:02lives.
  466. 19:03Money in the current system is debt. You
  467. 19:05know, it's created when banks make
  468. 19:07loans. So, the only way in the current
  469. 19:09system that we can have any money in the
  470. 19:11economy, you know, the only way we can
  471. 19:12have money for businesses to trade is if
  472. 19:15we borrowed it all from the banks.
  473. 19:20>> And it's the very opposite of what the
  474. 19:22Tory parties are arguing today, which is
  475. 19:25that you have to create savings before
  476. 19:27you can help the National Health
  477. 19:28Service.
  478. 19:29And it's because economists have
  479. 19:31completely confused those things both in
  480. 19:34monetary policy terms,
  481. 19:36but also in economic thinking. And
  482. 19:37because most people still harbor the
  483. 19:40old-fashioned view that you need savings
  484. 19:42before you can invest.
  485. 19:44That we have the mess that we're in
  486. 19:46today. Now, one of the reasons why we
  487. 19:49find it difficult to understand the
  488. 19:52banking system and credit creation is
  489. 19:53that we leave school without any money.
  490. 19:57And we go and get a job working as an
  491. 19:59apprentice to a plumber.
  492. 20:00We work really hard all month, and at
  493. 20:02the end of the month somebody puts money
  494. 20:04in our bank. And so for us the logic is
  495. 20:07you work and then you get money. You get
  496. 20:10savings. In reality, you would never
  497. 20:12have got that job if credit hadn't been
  498. 20:15created in the first instance. It's a
  499. 20:17really important
  500. 20:19um
  501. 20:21conceptual misunderstanding.
  502. 20:24And it isn't something that the public
  503. 20:25just are guilty of. Economists don't
  504. 20:27understand this stuff.
  505. 20:28>> Money doesn't come out of economic
  506. 20:30activity.
  507. 20:31A lot of people I've come across have
  508. 20:33kind of assumed that if you've got
  509. 20:35people if you've got businesses and you
  510. 20:36got people doing things that somehow
  511. 20:39money somehow
  512. 20:40emerges out of the process of people
  513. 20:42doing things, doing economic making
  514. 20:44things and growing things and selling
  515. 20:46things and producing things. That
  516. 20:48somehow money just emerges.
  517. 20:50It's not It's like oil in a car. You
  518. 20:52have to put it in.
  519. 20:53>> When I see David Cameron talking about
  520. 20:56how um we need an economy not based on
  521. 20:58debt, but we need an economy based on
  522. 21:00savings. He just doesn't know what he's
  523. 21:03saying. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely
  524. 21:04absurd and it shows his complete lack of
  525. 21:07understanding of how our money system
  526. 21:10actually works. What he's essentially
  527. 21:12saying is that we need an economy with
  528. 21:15no money. If everyone was saving, we'd
  529. 21:18have mass disappearing of money, which
  530. 21:21is essentially what a bank write-off is.
  531. 21:23Essentially, it's people defaulting on
  532. 21:24their debt, which which essentially is
  533. 21:27just money disappearing. But, if people
  534. 21:29weren't taking on the debt, then it's
  535. 21:32just it's just such a joke. It's just
  536. 21:35amateur understanding of how our economy
  537. 21:37works and how the monetary system works
  538. 21:40and how money is actually created. So,
  539. 21:42um I really do get a laugh out of
  540. 21:43watching what people are actually
  541. 21:45saying. And they're all just
  542. 21:46regurgitating what they've learned off
  543. 21:48each other and you just hear the same
  544. 21:49things and it just makes me it it really
  545. 21:53gets on my nerves when I hear people
  546. 21:55talking about um yeah, we need more
  547. 21:57regulations, we need to regulate the way
  548. 21:59banks are actually and the bonus It's
  549. 22:02all just one big smoke screen and
  550. 22:04working on all the symptoms of a greater
  551. 22:06disease, which is really you need to
  552. 22:08look at the the money system, the way
  553. 22:11money is created. And I if we don't want
  554. 22:13any debt, then we're essentially saying
  555. 22:15we don't want any money and we want a
  556. 22:17money-less economy with the exception of
  557. 22:18the 3% that's created debt-free.
  558. 22:22>> You know, it's a paradox under the
  559. 22:23current system. If you
  560. 22:25if we as the public go into further
  561. 22:27debt, then that's going to put more
  562. 22:28money into the economy and we're going
  563. 22:30to have a boom. When you have a boom,
  564. 22:32it's easier to borrow, so people get
  565. 22:34into even more debt. And eventually, you
  566. 22:36know, this this cycle continues. It gets
  567. 22:37easier and easier to get into debt until
  568. 22:40some people get over in debt and then,
  569. 22:42you know, they default. They can't repay
  570. 22:45their mortgage. That's what happened in,
  571. 22:47you know, it happened first in subprime
  572. 22:48America.
  573. 22:49Um and then, you know, that just
  574. 22:52brings through a wave of defaults, which
  575. 22:53will ripple across the entire economy.
  576. 22:56Banks go insolvent, then we're into a
  577. 22:58financial crisis.
  578. 23:00Um and then the banks stop lending. And,
  579. 23:03you know, they they were excessively
  580. 23:05lending in the boom, and then they
  581. 23:07stopped lending, and then that makes the
  582. 23:09recession even worse. People lose their
  583. 23:11jobs, and then they become even more
  584. 23:12dependent on debt just to survive,
  585. 23:15basically. You know, we have a a system
  586. 23:17where we have to borrow in order to have
  587. 23:20an economy. We have to be in debt to the
  588. 23:22banks.
  589. 23:23And that that guarantees, you know,
  590. 23:25massive profit for the banks.
  591. 23:28>> This is the boom bust cycle.
  592. 23:33>> And I have said before, Mr. Deputy
  593. 23:34Speaker, no return to boom and bust.
  594. 23:44>> Net bank lending must forever increase.
  595. 23:49>> We're paying interest on every single
  596. 23:50pound, even if even if you think the
  597. 23:52money belongs to you.
  598. 23:54Somebody somewhere is paying interest on
  599. 23:56that money.
  600. 23:56>> The banking system has such a huge
  601. 23:59impact on the world,
  602. 24:01but only because it supplies our
  603. 24:03nation's money supply.
  604. 24:05We have to protect them. We have to
  605. 24:06subsidize them. We have to allow them to
  606. 24:09continue because the the disaster of of
  607. 24:12a a bank collapse affects us all in a
  608. 24:14huge way, and anyone that says that we
  609. 24:16shouldn't have bailed out the banks
  610. 24:18doesn't quite understand the the the
  611. 24:20nature of our monetary system. That's
  612. 24:22like eliminating a huge chunk of our
  613. 24:24money,
  614. 24:25but also bailing out the banks is
  615. 24:28perpetuating a system which is never
  616. 24:30going to work anyway. So, whatever we
  617. 24:32do, we're always going to have this
  618. 24:34cycle until we separate how money is
  619. 24:36created and the activities of banking.
  620. 24:39Then the banks can do as they wish.
  621. 24:40They're a normal business like everyone
  622. 24:41else.
  623. 24:42>> There's a a major democratic issue here
  624. 24:45as well. I mean, you have these
  625. 24:48private profit-seeking banks creating up
  626. 24:50to 200 billion pounds a year and pumping
  627. 24:52that into the economy
  628. 24:54wherever they want, basically. Wherever
  629. 24:55it suits them.
  630. 24:57Whether they're pumping it into, you
  631. 24:58know, these toxic
  632. 25:00derivatives or putting money into
  633. 25:02housing bubbles, just making houses more
  634. 25:04expensive. 200 billion pounds in 2007 of
  635. 25:08new money coming into the economy,
  636. 25:10created out of nothing. And where that
  637. 25:13gets spent determines, you know, the
  638. 25:14shape of our economy effectively. So, if
  639. 25:17we're going to allow anybody to create
  640. 25:19new money out of nothing, then we should
  641. 25:21at least have some democratic control
  642. 25:23over how that money's used. I mean, it
  643. 25:25it Would we rather have had that money
  644. 25:27used for healthcare, you know, to deal
  645. 25:29with some of the environmental issues,
  646. 25:31to reduce poverty, or do we rather have
  647. 25:33it to make houses more expensive so that
  648. 25:35none of us can afford to to live in a
  649. 25:37house?
  650. 25:41>> You can see it as a subsidy, a special
  651. 25:45super subsidy to the banks
  652. 25:48for the right to create money,
  653. 25:51which should be for the benefit of the
  654. 25:53public and spent through a democratic
  655. 25:56process.
  656. 26:03>> There's also another form of money,
  657. 26:06which is effectively an electronic
  658. 26:08version of cash.
  659. 26:09And it's a type of money that the
  660. 26:11commercial banks use themselves to make
  661. 26:13payments between each other. The high
  662. 26:16street banks don't want to be carrying
  663. 26:17around huge quantities of money cuz it's
  664. 26:20dangerous and it's, you know,
  665. 26:21inconvenient and it's, you know,
  666. 26:22expensive. You have to hire security
  667. 26:24guards for that type of money. So, what
  668. 26:26they do is they pay each other in what
  669. 26:29is an electronic version of cash,
  670. 26:31which in the industry is known as
  671. 26:34central bank reserves.
  672. 26:36They keep this electronic cash in
  673. 26:39accounts at the Bank of England.
  674. 26:41But, as a member of the public, you
  675. 26:43can't access this electronic cash. You
  676. 26:45can't get an account with the Bank of
  677. 26:47England. What they do is they they
  678. 26:49effectively sell this central bank money
  679. 26:52to the banks.
  680. 26:54And they do this by creating it out of
  681. 26:56nothing and using this money to pay for
  682. 26:59bonds, to buy bonds from the high street
  683. 27:02banks.
  684. 27:03So, the high street bank will come along
  685. 27:05with a bond, which is, you know,
  686. 27:06effectively government debt.
  687. 27:08And it will give it to the Bank of
  688. 27:09England, and in return the Bank of
  689. 27:11England will type some new numbers into
  690. 27:14the bank's account at the Bank of
  691. 27:15England. So, effectively they're
  692. 27:17creating central bank reserves out of
  693. 27:19nothing.
  694. 27:20>> The Bank of England creates central bank
  695. 27:21reserves
  696. 27:23by increasing the available credit in
  697. 27:25the settlement bank's account with the
  698. 27:27Bank of England.
  699. 27:28The settlement bank, in return, posts
  700. 27:30bonds
  701. 27:31or sells assets as collateral for the
  702. 27:33reserves.
  703. 27:37A total of 46 banks hold central reserve
  704. 27:40accounts at the Bank of England.
  705. 27:42Smaller or foreign banks hold accounts
  706. 27:45with one of these 46 banks to allow them
  707. 27:47to accept or make payments in pounds
  708. 27:50sterling.
  709. 27:52Prior to March 2009, the Bank of England
  710. 27:56would ask each of the major settlement
  711. 27:57banks how much reserve currency they
  712. 27:59needed.
  713. 28:01The settlement banks would then swap a
  714. 28:03bond for the reserve currency
  715. 28:05and agree to repurchase the bond for a
  716. 28:07specific amount
  717. 28:09at a specified future date.
  718. 28:13The settlement banks would then receive
  719. 28:15interest at base or policy rate for the
  720. 28:17central bank reserves they held.
  721. 28:21>> Since the crisis, settlement bank
  722. 28:23central reserves have shot up
  723. 28:25dramatically.
  724. 28:40When bank customers transfer funds from
  725. 28:42their account to another person's
  726. 28:44account,
  727. 28:45a process called intraday clearing
  728. 28:47occurs.
  729. 28:49The amount of central reserve currency
  730. 28:51Bank A has at the Bank of England
  731. 28:54is reduced by the corresponding amount
  732. 28:56that Bank B receives.
  733. 28:58This is the importance of central
  734. 29:00reserve currency to banks.
  735. 29:03Before the credit crisis,
  736. 29:05if a bank was short of central reserves
  737. 29:07at the Bank of England to meet its
  738. 29:09obligations,
  739. 29:11then the bank would have to loan
  740. 29:12reserves from other banks with interest.
  741. 29:26>> If you sell something on eBay, you know
  742. 29:28that that deal's not complete until you
  743. 29:29get some money put into your account.
  744. 29:31You know, most people actually want to
  745. 29:32see the money in their account before
  746. 29:34they're happy to close on a deal. Now,
  747. 29:36the banks are pretty much the same, but
  748. 29:38they want to see the money in their
  749. 29:40account at the Bank of England before
  750. 29:42they consider a deal complete. So, for
  751. 29:44example, if you if you're buying a house
  752. 29:46from somebody who banks with a different
  753. 29:48bank, then what what will happen after
  754. 29:50you spend quarter of a million on a
  755. 29:52house is you'll tell your bank to
  756. 29:54transfer some money to this house
  757. 29:56seller's bank.
  758. 29:58And what the bank will do is actually
  759. 30:00instruct the Bank of England to move
  760. 30:03250,000 from their account at the Bank
  761. 30:05of England to the bank of the house
  762. 30:09seller.
  763. 30:10And that money will actually move across
  764. 30:11between the accounts at the Bank of
  765. 30:12England.
  766. 30:13Um when that money's moved across, then
  767. 30:15the banks will consider that that
  768. 30:17payment has been made. You know, it's
  769. 30:19been settled.
  770. 30:20Um they
  771. 30:22don't really deal in the kind of money
  772. 30:24that we have in our accounts. They deal
  773. 30:26in this special money that's can only be
  774. 30:28used at the central bank.
  775. 30:32>> There are millions of people across the
  776. 30:34country all transferring money to each
  777. 30:36other using only a few major banks.
  778. 30:40These banks can keep a tally on their
  779. 30:41computer systems.
  780. 30:43And usually many of the movements cancel
  781. 30:45each other out at the end of the day.
  782. 30:48The five major banks RBS, Lloyds,
  783. 30:52HSBC,
  784. 30:54Barclays and Santander
  785. 30:56hold over 85% of all deposits.
  786. 31:02As there are a limited number of banks
  787. 31:04in the system,
  788. 31:06the central reserve money can only be
  789. 31:07moved around them in a closed loop.
  790. 31:10>> The money is just circulating through
  791. 31:12the system over and over again. And if
  792. 31:15you think about it, a £1 coin could be
  793. 31:18used to make a billion pounds of
  794. 31:19payments if it was circulated a billion
  795. 31:22times. And that's effectively the system
  796. 31:24that you have now is you have a small
  797. 31:25pool of real money that's just going
  798. 31:27around and around the system and it's
  799. 31:29been used to make a a huge quantity of
  800. 31:31payments on our behalf. Just before the
  801. 31:33crisis, there was only 20 billion pounds
  802. 31:36in the accounts at the central bank.
  803. 31:41If they don't have enough of this
  804. 31:43central bank money, then effectively
  805. 31:45they can't make payments. And if that
  806. 31:47happens, then pretty quickly the entire
  807. 31:49system seizes up.
  808. 31:50So the Bank of England has the
  809. 31:52responsibility of making sure there's
  810. 31:54enough of this money in the system.
  811. 31:58>> The requirements for banks to hold a
  812. 32:00specific amount of reserves has changed
  813. 32:02many times since 1947.
  814. 32:05At that time, banks needed to hold a
  815. 32:07minimum ratio of 32% of reserves, cash
  816. 32:11or treasury bonds to deposits.
  817. 32:14In 2006, the corridor system was
  818. 32:17introduced
  819. 32:18in which banks could set their own
  820. 32:20reserve targets each month.
  821. 32:25The rules changed again in March 2009
  822. 32:29when the Bank of England introduced
  823. 32:30quantitative easing.
  824. 32:32Quantitative easing in effect gives
  825. 32:34settlement banks the central reserve
  826. 32:36currency, for free.
  827. 32:41The central reserve currency is what is
  828. 32:43referred to as the real money in the
  829. 32:45fractional reserve model.
  830. 32:48But, the fact is banks can have as much
  831. 32:50of this as they want.
  832. 32:52And central reserve currency itself is a
  833. 32:54form of fiat money, which is backed by
  834. 32:56nothing.
  835. 32:58As a consequence, there is no longer a
  836. 33:00meaningful fractional reserve.
  837. 33:14>> If you look over the history of the last
  838. 33:15150 years or so, you you start off
  839. 33:18um with the development of a
  840. 33:20a gold standard that really comes to
  841. 33:21form in the 1880s, 1890s, where
  842. 33:24essentially uh countries peg themselves
  843. 33:26to a particular defined value of gold,
  844. 33:28and then they have an agreement to uh
  845. 33:31fix that value, to hold that value, and
  846. 33:33to trade gold amongst themselves to the
  847. 33:34to make sure the balances are all there,
  848. 33:36and also to try and uh restrict or
  849. 33:39expand or contract um activity in their
  850. 33:41own economies uh to make sure that that
  851. 33:44the balance that particular fixed price
  852. 33:45is is maintained. That disintegrates uh
  853. 33:48in the well, after the First World War.
  854. 33:50I mean, this is where the whole thing
  855. 33:51breaks apart. Very major dislocation in
  856. 33:54the international monetary system at
  857. 33:55that point. Not really resolved until
  858. 33:57you get Bretton Woods agreements at the
  859. 34:00end of the Second World War, in which
  860. 34:02everything is pegged to the dollar, and
  861. 34:03the dollar is pegged to the gold. So,
  862. 34:05you kind of one remove from gold backing
  863. 34:07or saying that there is a definite, you
  864. 34:09know, sort of solid commodity money
  865. 34:12behind the paper money and the credit
  866. 34:13money that we're all using over here.
  867. 34:15You're kind of one remove from it.
  868. 34:17>> After Hiroshima, Tokyo wondered when the
  869. 34:20next atom bomb would fall.
  870. 34:23They did not wonder long.
  871. 34:30>> In 1944
  872. 34:32at Bretton Woods,
  873. 34:34the US and the UK began to negotiate how
  874. 34:37to govern the world economy, the world
  875. 34:40monetary system, and came up with the
  876. 34:42World Bank and the IMF and a series of
  877. 34:44other institutions designed to manage
  878. 34:47the global currency. And there was still
  879. 34:49a gold standard, but this gold standard
  880. 34:51was going to be tied to the dollar. All
  881. 34:53of the world's gold had moved from
  882. 34:56London
  883. 34:57to Fort Knox.
  884. 34:59And all of the world's currencies were
  885. 35:01tied to the dollar.
  886. 35:03This system was designed to manage the
  887. 35:06sorts of imbalances to avoid credit
  888. 35:08crunches, or for countries the credit
  889. 35:11crunches are known as balance of trades
  890. 35:13deficits, i.e. when they can't pay their
  891. 35:15bills and their currency collapses. The
  892. 35:18currencies were managed
  893. 35:20and the system was stable as long as the
  894. 35:23Americans played the role of oversight.
  895. 35:28Now, who knows the great story about how
  896. 35:30that all came to an end?
  897. 35:33So, the quantity of money that was
  898. 35:34needed to pay for the Vietnam War.
  899. 35:37That's
  900. 35:37exactly what I was trying to get at. Oil
  901. 35:39shocks was another one. That meant that
  902. 35:41the Americans were no longer respecting
  903. 35:43their role or playing their role
  904. 35:44governing the monetary system. They were
  905. 35:46inflating the value of their own
  906. 35:47currency, but ostensibly it was meant to
  907. 35:49be tied tied to gold and to every other
  908. 35:51currency.
  909. 35:53So, what did the French do?
  910. 35:55The French were a little bit worried
  911. 35:56that President Nixon wasn't entirely
  912. 35:58honest.
  913. 36:01And they were worried that they were
  914. 36:03that precisely what we described,
  915. 36:06that Nixon was printing money when he
  916. 36:09shouldn't have been, was going on. And
  917. 36:11they were worried there wasn't enough
  918. 36:12gold to honor the exchange rate of the
  919. 36:15French franc. So, they
  920. 36:18sent a gunboat to New York Harbor to
  921. 36:20ever so politely ask for our gold back,
  922. 36:22please.
  923. 36:24Did they get their gold back?
  924. 36:27Go on, guess.
  925. 36:29They didn't. And the Bretton Woods
  926. 36:31system came to an end.
  927. 36:34And this is the point in which we enter
  928. 36:36the modern era of the financial system.
  929. 36:47>> Historically,
  930. 36:48money creation was pegged to a
  931. 36:49commodity,
  932. 36:51often gold,
  933. 36:52but today, it is pegged to nothing.
  934. 36:56>> Which means there is nothing backing our
  935. 36:58money.
  936. 37:00This piece of paper
  937. 37:02is just a piece of paper.
  938. 37:06Where does this leave us?
  939. 37:09If money's based on nothing,
  940. 37:11why do we think it has any value?
  941. 37:15Sorry?
  942. 37:18Cuz we can still go and exchange it.
  943. 37:19What? What somebody else was going to
  944. 37:20shout?
  945. 37:22Great little Latin fact, the word for
  946. 37:23credit comes from
  947. 37:27belief.
  948. 37:28Correct.
  949. 37:36>> Since the collapse of the dollar gold
  950. 37:38standard in 1971
  951. 37:40and the deregulation of the financial
  952. 37:42system,
  953. 37:43money creation has grown exponentially.
  954. 37:47>> The World Economic Forum meeting in in
  955. 37:49Davos
  956. 37:51at the present time have called on a
  957. 37:54need for
  958. 37:55the credit within the
  959. 37:59economy, uh the global economy, to be
  960. 38:02expanded by
  961. 38:04100 trillion dollars, 100 trillion US
  962. 38:08dollars. Uh
  963. 38:11trillion is 12 naughts, so 100 trillion,
  964. 38:14if you want to imagine, is a one
  965. 38:16followed by 14 naughts.
  966. 38:19>> They believe this credit expansion will
  967. 38:21create a boom
  968. 38:22because there is now more money in the
  969. 38:23economy with which to make investments.
  970. 38:27>> It's fascinating that this the emergence
  971. 38:29of digital currencies, how it's
  972. 38:30transformed everything, really. Um
  973. 38:32because it just completely unleashed
  974. 38:35private banks
  975. 38:37to dominate and create the money system
  976. 38:39that works for them and works for the
  977. 38:41people who run private banks.
  978. 38:47>> If you want to grow an economy under the
  979. 38:49current system, we have to have growing
  980. 38:51debt. You can't
  981. 38:53you know, this is something that very,
  982. 38:55very few people really understand,
  983. 38:57especially not the politicians who are
  984. 38:59managing the economy, which is a a scary
  985. 39:01thought.
  986. 39:09>> As the money supply grows, more money is
  987. 39:12available
  988. 39:13which can be invested in productive
  989. 39:14avenues.
  990. 39:16However, it can also be used to gamble
  991. 39:18and drive up asset prices.
  992. 39:36Inflation is a rise in the general level
  993. 39:38of prices of goods and services in an
  994. 39:40economy over a period of time.
  995. 39:43When the general price level rises,
  996. 39:46each unit of currency buys fewer goods
  997. 39:48and services.
  998. 39:50As the money supply grows and there is
  999. 39:52more currency available,
  1000. 39:54more money is available for investment
  1001. 39:56which can lead to growth.
  1002. 39:58But more money is also available for
  1003. 40:00purchases of goods and speculation
  1004. 40:03which leads to inflation.
  1005. 40:07>> Essentially, inflation is what happens
  1006. 40:10when too much money is chasing too few
  1007. 40:14goods and services.
  1008. 40:16So, that that there's too much money for
  1009. 40:19the the actual output of the economy.
  1010. 40:24>> In the 7 years between 2000 and 2007,
  1011. 40:28the money supply doubled and the banks,
  1012. 40:31you know, the central bank, the Bank of
  1013. 40:32England in this time was under the
  1014. 40:34impression that they had it under
  1015. 40:35control because they were saying, you
  1016. 40:37know, prices aren't going up that much.
  1017. 40:39Of course, they were only looking at
  1018. 40:40prices in, you know, in your local con-
  1019. 40:43corner shop. They weren't looking at the
  1020. 40:44price of housing and housing is, you
  1021. 40:46know, the biggest expenditure that most
  1022. 40:49people will make.
  1023. 40:58>> Increasing house prices
  1024. 41:00uh it may may make you feel like you're
  1025. 41:03you're becoming wealthier,
  1026. 41:05but as your wealth increases, the effect
  1027. 41:09is that your children's wealth is
  1028. 41:11actually decreasing. So, in fact,
  1029. 41:12there's no net gain in wealth because
  1030. 41:15your children
  1031. 41:16are going to have to pay even more
  1032. 41:19when they want to buy a house. So, in in
  1033. 41:22effect, there's no there's no kind of
  1034. 41:23net increase. They're going to have to
  1035. 41:25earn even more. They're going to have to
  1036. 41:26go into even more debt.
  1037. 41:29So, the
  1038. 41:30rising house prices do not create
  1039. 41:33additional uh net GDP value to the
  1040. 41:36economy. It They They Actually, what
  1041. 41:38they do is they redistribute wealth
  1042. 41:41uh towards those people who already have
  1043. 41:43houses, i.e. wealthier people, and
  1044. 41:45remove it from poorer people who can't
  1045. 41:48afford to get on the housing ladder. So,
  1046. 41:50it's another example of a very
  1047. 41:52regressive policy, actually, to allow
  1048. 41:54house prices to simply inflate. Uh it
  1049. 41:57makes everybody feel kind of like things
  1050. 42:00are going well
  1051. 42:01uh uh and people spend more money on
  1052. 42:02other stuff. They take equity out of
  1053. 42:04their houses, but it it's not creating
  1054. 42:06new jobs. It's not uh en- enhancing the
  1055. 42:09quality of the economy. It's not helping
  1056. 42:12our balance of trade. It's not helping
  1057. 42:13the public deficit. Um it's a it's a
  1058. 42:16zero-sum game.
  1059. 42:19>> As of August 2011,
  1060. 42:2285.5%
  1061. 42:23of consumer bank lending was secured as
  1062. 42:26mortgages on dwellings.
  1063. 42:28>> If you have somebody creating money that
  1064. 42:30can only be spent on one thing, which is
  1065. 42:32housing, then the price of that thing is
  1066. 42:34going to go up. Between 2000 and 2010,
  1067. 42:38they created over a trillion pounds of
  1068. 42:39new
  1069. 42:41500 billion pounds just in the 3 years
  1070. 42:43before the crisis. That's why house
  1071. 42:45prices went up the way they were.
  1072. 42:47There's nothing, you know, special about
  1073. 42:49houses. It was just all this funny money
  1074. 42:51being pumped into that market.
  1075. 42:53>> If money is spent into the economy,
  1076. 42:56into into a lot of money goes into
  1077. 42:58houses, for example, into mortgages,
  1078. 43:00um that's an increase in the amount of
  1079. 43:03money in the economy without a
  1080. 43:05corresponding increase in activity, in
  1081. 43:08output, in GDP. It's non-GDP based
  1082. 43:13um spending.
  1083. 43:14Uh that's what causes inflation. And and
  1084. 43:17and in the UK, we've we've had it in
  1085. 43:19spades. We've had, you know, this
  1086. 43:21massive uh housing boom.
  1087. 43:24And the the main cause for the housing
  1088. 43:26boom, in my opinion, is the huge amount
  1089. 43:29of speculative credit created by the
  1090. 43:31banks to go into houses. If houses were
  1091. 43:35cheaper,
  1092. 43:36um they would be easier to build, more
  1093. 43:40be more of them would be built. There
  1094. 43:42would be less huge houses with hardly
  1095. 43:44any people in them. London would not be
  1096. 43:47the center of a a kind of very rich um
  1097. 43:51speculative orgy where where all the
  1098. 43:53richest people in the world wants want
  1099. 43:54to get a property in London cuz it's
  1100. 43:56seen as a as a great asset. You know,
  1101. 43:58houses would be seen as places to live
  1102. 44:00primarily rather than places to invest.
  1103. 44:03Important thing to think about is if
  1104. 44:05you're a bank
  1105. 44:07and you've got to make a loan
  1106. 44:09you have choices. You can you can give
  1107. 44:11that loan to um a small business
  1108. 44:15and you'll know that the risk to you of
  1109. 44:17that loan failing, defaulting, is
  1110. 44:20actually quite high because that small
  1111. 44:22business, the owners of that business
  1112. 44:24have limited liability.
  1113. 44:26Which means if the business goes bust
  1114. 44:28you as a bank are getting nothing back
  1115. 44:31essentially. You know, that that's it.
  1116. 44:32So, that's kind of high risk compared to
  1117. 44:35loaning your money to somebody with some
  1118. 44:38collateral, with a house behind them,
  1119. 44:40like a mortgage. So, there's a there's a
  1120. 44:42kind of simple incentive for banks to
  1121. 44:44prefer putting money into housing than
  1122. 44:47into a a small business.
  1123. 44:49Now, that's a real problem
  1124. 44:51or if you if you if you widen that out
  1125. 44:53across the whole economy
  1126. 44:54because it means there's an incentive,
  1127. 44:57you know, to put money into speculative
  1128. 44:58rather than productive investments. So,
  1129. 45:01again, we have to think about how we
  1130. 45:03create a monetary system that is more
  1131. 45:06balanced between those two kinds of
  1132. 45:08speculative and productive investment.
  1133. 45:11The government showing very little uh
  1134. 45:13enormous reluctance to regulate the
  1135. 45:15housing market and to again regulate the
  1136. 45:18amount of money that that banks put into
  1137. 45:20houses.
  1138. 45:21>> We don't decide who creates credit for
  1139. 45:23what. No, we leave that to a couple of
  1140. 45:25chaps in a bank to decide basically.
  1141. 45:35>> A bubble occurs when there is very high
  1142. 45:37inflation in the price of a specific
  1143. 45:38good or service over a short period of
  1144. 45:41time.
  1145. 45:45>> The idea of the tulips and their
  1146. 45:46relevance is that we have saw the first
  1147. 45:48ever financial bubble and crash.
  1148. 45:52The craze for tulips, black tulips being
  1149. 45:55a mythical ideal of what somebody could
  1150. 45:59genetically engineer through cultivation
  1151. 46:02after many generations became a mania in
  1152. 46:06the Netherlands in the 1630s.
  1153. 46:08What they didn't realize was that many
  1154. 46:10of the very very rare patterns on tulips
  1155. 46:12were caused by a virus and weren't
  1156. 46:14genetic at all.
  1157. 46:16But, they traded them to the extent that
  1158. 46:18tulip bulbs got to the point where they
  1159. 46:20were worth 10 times the average annual
  1160. 46:22salary
  1161. 46:23of a person working in the Netherlands.
  1162. 46:26There was a futures market in tulip
  1163. 46:28bulbs because obviously you plant them
  1164. 46:29now, but you don't know what's going to
  1165. 46:30come out of the ground. So, we see
  1166. 46:32already 400 years ago that a money
  1167. 46:35system or a financial system is not
  1168. 46:37something that exists in the abstract,
  1169. 46:39somewhere out there in the ether, but
  1170. 46:42something that was to do with states,
  1171. 46:45power, trade, and how they interact with
  1172. 46:48each other.
  1173. 46:51>> Unlike tulips, which are a disposable
  1174. 46:53luxury,
  1175. 46:55houses are both a necessity and a
  1176. 46:57luxury.
  1177. 46:58And as such, they are ideal as a vehicle
  1178. 47:01for money and bubble creation.
  1179. 47:04A dwelling
  1180. 47:05is perhaps the most prized possession of
  1181. 47:07value most people aspire to.
  1182. 47:13Inflating house prices in this way
  1183. 47:15allows a nation to expand its money
  1184. 47:17supply
  1185. 47:18without affecting inflation data.
  1186. 47:22The additional purchasing power created
  1187. 47:24increases the perceived wealth in
  1188. 47:26relation to other nations
  1189. 47:28and thus it creates relative power.
  1190. 47:32It is a way of increasing monetary power
  1191. 47:34without investing in the productive
  1192. 47:35growth of industry.
  1193. 47:40>> But certainly if you look at Britain and
  1194. 47:41America as outstanding examples of this,
  1195. 47:43these are countries with very high rates
  1196. 47:45of private home ownership. So, you've
  1197. 47:46got a good base to try and perform this
  1198. 47:49sort of policy off the back of. I think
  1199. 47:51it was quite deliberate in the case of
  1200. 47:52the US, almost explicit. There's Alan
  1201. 47:55Greenspan as head of the Federal
  1202. 47:56Reserve,
  1203. 47:57when confronted by a stock market crash
  1204. 48:00at the end of the 1990s, quite
  1205. 48:03deliberately slashed interest rates to
  1206. 48:06almost zero. Everyone can borrow very,
  1207. 48:09very cheaply. In particular, it's very
  1208. 48:11easy to borrow against a house because
  1209. 48:13this is an asset and it's potentially
  1210. 48:15something that bank can say, "Well,
  1211. 48:16okay, we're not just lending you money
  1212. 48:18unsecured. You actually do have a house
  1213. 48:19and that's great cuz you we can
  1214. 48:21repossess it." They won't tell you this
  1215. 48:22when you take the mortgage, but they can
  1216. 48:24do this. And that bubble is then what
  1217. 48:26fuels expansion such as it is inside the
  1218. 48:29US.
  1219. 48:30And inside the UK where something
  1220. 48:31similar takes place for the next decade
  1221. 48:33or so. It's also a reflection of an
  1222. 48:36underlying weakness of these
  1223. 48:37governments. That they they simply lack
  1224. 48:40the will and possibly the ability, but I
  1225. 48:42think it more comes down to a will to
  1226. 48:45challenge financial markets, to
  1227. 48:46challenge big capital and say, "We're
  1228. 48:49going to do something different now and
  1229. 48:51you're going to have to go along with it
  1230. 48:53because we've been democratically
  1231. 48:54elected and you lot frankly haven't and
  1232. 48:56we have mandate to do this and we're
  1233. 48:57going to make this happen."
  1234. 48:58>> Just remember it's all part of the plan.
  1235. 49:02What are you yapping about? You voted
  1236. 49:04for it.
  1237. 49:07>> In Holland or in the Netherlands, what
  1238. 49:10we had over a period of trying to get
  1239. 49:13independence initially from Spain and
  1240. 49:15trying to raise money to get an army to
  1241. 49:17free themselves
  1242. 49:18was financial innovation. They innovated
  1243. 49:21public lotteries to get money together.
  1244. 49:23They had public subscription. This was
  1245. 49:25the idea that led to the idea of public
  1246. 49:27shares, a piece of the action that
  1247. 49:29anybody could invest in. That meant that
  1248. 49:30something like 2/3 of the population was
  1249. 49:33investing in tulip bulbs by the 1630s.
  1250. 49:36After independence, these these
  1251. 49:38instruments were applied to financing
  1252. 49:40expansion.
  1253. 49:41Why was such a small country able to
  1254. 49:44hold its own against so much bigger
  1255. 49:46countries, for example, Spain and
  1256. 49:48Portugal that had the benefits of their
  1257. 49:50empires for over a century
  1258. 49:53in respect of the Netherlands. Why could
  1259. 49:55they compete on what resource basis?
  1260. 49:57Well, they had a more efficient, a more
  1261. 50:00involved, and a broader-based financial
  1262. 50:03system with these instruments that
  1263. 50:05they'd innovated that allowed them to
  1264. 50:07bring more money to bear at one point
  1265. 50:09than anybody else more quickly.
  1266. 50:14>> Incredible.
  1267. 50:16But true.
  1268. 50:24>> Now, inflation can be avoided
  1269. 50:27if the amount of money that goes into
  1270. 50:29the economy
  1271. 50:30um
  1272. 50:31is regulated in a way that it doesn't
  1273. 50:34exceed the actual activity that's
  1274. 50:37happening in the economy.
  1275. 50:39Now,
  1276. 50:40the best way to do that, in my opinion,
  1277. 50:42is to make sure that money is issued
  1278. 50:45into the economy only for productive
  1279. 50:49investment for productive goods and
  1280. 50:52services. So, money goes in
  1281. 50:54to help a small business start up, which
  1282. 50:57creates jobs, which creates additional
  1283. 51:01purchasing power,
  1284. 51:02um which means there's no there's no
  1285. 51:04inflation.
  1286. 51:05>> During their history, almost all central
  1287. 51:07banks have employed forms of direct
  1288. 51:09credit regulation.
  1289. 51:11The central bank would determine desired
  1290. 51:13nominal GDP growth,
  1291. 51:15then calculate the necessary amount of
  1292. 51:17credit creation to achieve this,
  1293. 51:20and then allocate this credit creation
  1294. 51:22both across the various banks and type
  1295. 51:24of banks and across industrial sectors.
  1296. 51:28Unproductive credit was suppressed.
  1297. 51:32Thus, it was difficult or impossible to
  1298. 51:35obtain bank credit for large-scale,
  1299. 51:37purely speculative transactions,
  1300. 51:40such as today's large-scale bank funding
  1301. 51:42to hedge funds.
  1302. 51:44The World Bank recognized in a 1993
  1303. 51:46study that this mechanism of
  1304. 51:48intervention in credit allocation
  1305. 51:50was at the core of the East Asian
  1306. 51:52economic miracle.
  1307. 51:54>> There's all sorts of things that
  1308. 51:55governments have done in the past very
  1309. 51:57successfully in a number of cases and
  1310. 51:59and not often not unsuccessfully in this
  1311. 52:01country. But you know, the examples that
  1312. 52:02spring to mind like South Korea, Japan,
  1313. 52:05often in East Asia where governments
  1314. 52:06been quite targeted about how they going
  1315. 52:08to rebalance the economy and picking
  1316. 52:10sectors and deciding where the
  1317. 52:12investment should take place. I think
  1318. 52:13that has to start happening in the UK
  1319. 52:15because we're in a demand side recession
  1320. 52:17rather than looking at crisis of of
  1321. 52:19supply.
  1322. 52:20>> You you have to have a system
  1323. 52:22where credit is put into productive
  1324. 52:26avenues where credit is put into
  1325. 52:28building high speed rail lines, where
  1326. 52:30credit is put into
  1327. 52:32building houses rather than giving
  1328. 52:34people money to inflate the price of of
  1329. 52:36houses. So it's it's quite simple really
  1330. 52:39in that way. Um and
  1331. 52:43the current system is simply set up not
  1332. 52:45to do that basically.
  1333. 52:48>> The creation of money by private banks
  1334. 52:50for non-productive usage causes real
  1335. 52:52inflation and as such it is a tax on the
  1336. 52:55purchasing power of the medium of
  1337. 52:57exchange.
  1338. 53:05>> The figures for the UK are are quite
  1339. 53:07stark actually that
  1340. 53:09average median real incomes for so
  1341. 53:12that's you know, what the bit in the
  1342. 53:14middle uh for most people over the last
  1343. 53:17eight years or so. They're now in quite
  1344. 53:18sharp decline as as we go into the
  1345. 53:20recession being the sharpest really
  1346. 53:21since
  1347. 53:22it looks like since about the 1930s put
  1348. 53:24it that way. So real incomes are
  1349. 53:25declining.
  1350. 53:28>> Bank created fiat currency allows the
  1351. 53:30private banks to suck wealth from the
  1352. 53:31economy
  1353. 53:33and over time results in a gradual
  1354. 53:34decrease in the standard of living.
  1355. 53:38As people become poorer they become even
  1356. 53:40more dependent on debt.
  1357. 53:43And this is a time when efficiency and
  1358. 53:45machination have improved dramatically.
  1359. 53:48>> If you know, you go back to the 1960s
  1360. 53:50and we were expected to to we were
  1361. 53:53looking forward to the an age of
  1362. 53:54leisure. What will people What they were
  1363. 53:56talking television programs saying,
  1364. 53:58"What's people going to do with all
  1365. 53:59their spare time?"
  1366. 54:01You know.
  1367. 54:02And now we've got more people working
  1368. 54:04harder than ever.
  1369. 54:06Spending more than ever.
  1370. 54:08Which looks great, you know. Everyone's
  1371. 54:10spending more. Everyone says, "Oh, yeah,
  1372. 54:11we
  1373. 54:12you know."
  1374. 54:13But if you're not actually benefiting
  1375. 54:15from what you're spending, if you're
  1376. 54:17having to spend the money on child care
  1377. 54:18costs, on commuting costs, you know, and
  1378. 54:21so forth. Just you know, it's costs that
  1379. 54:24people didn't in the past used to have
  1380. 54:26to pay.
  1381. 54:27Because you know, you could walk to work
  1382. 54:29and you know, one member of the family
  1383. 54:31remain was able to to stay at home and
  1384. 54:33be a permanent homemaker. Then you're
  1385. 54:35not actually much You're not actually
  1386. 54:36any better off.
  1387. 54:37You know, everyone's under Everyone's
  1388. 54:39under such enormous pressures
  1389. 54:41nowadays. You know. I am conscious that
  1390. 54:45let's say my four nephews and nieces
  1391. 54:48are facing difficult times.
  1392. 54:50She's going to find themselves having to
  1393. 54:52work
  1394. 54:54you know, um
  1395. 54:56very hard just to to keep just to keep a
  1396. 54:59a roof over their just to get a roof
  1397. 55:01over their just keep a roof over their
  1398. 55:02head.
  1399. 55:03>> People are getting poorer in real terms.
  1400. 55:05It's because prices always going up
  1401. 55:07because all this new funny money's being
  1402. 55:09pumped into the system by the banks.
  1403. 55:12And they're creating it all as debt. So,
  1404. 55:15at the same time as prices are going up
  1405. 55:16and things are getting more expensive,
  1406. 55:18we're getting further and further into
  1407. 55:19debt. And you know, our our wealth and
  1408. 55:22the return that we get from actually
  1409. 55:24working is getting less and less all the
  1410. 55:25time. And you can't deal with poverty
  1411. 55:28when you have a financial system and a
  1412. 55:30money system that distributes money from
  1413. 55:32the poor to the very rich.
  1414. 55:34Any distribution that you try and do in
  1415. 55:36the opposite direction is
  1416. 55:38um, you know, it's effectively pissing
  1417. 55:40in the wind. If you look at issues like,
  1418. 55:42you know, increasing inequality,
  1419. 55:45one obvious way to tackle inequality is
  1420. 55:48to have, say for example, a
  1421. 55:49redistributive tax system. You know, you
  1422. 55:51tax the rich, you give some money to the
  1423. 55:53poor, you move that money down down the
  1424. 55:55scale.
  1425. 55:56Um,
  1426. 55:57that's all very well, but if you
  1427. 55:59completely overlook the fact that
  1428. 56:01there's another redistributive system
  1429. 56:03which is taking money from the poor and
  1430. 56:05giving it to the rich,
  1431. 56:07then you're not really going to tackle
  1432. 56:08this inequality. And um, the way
  1433. 56:12a debt-based money system works, it
  1434. 56:14guarantees that for every pound of money
  1435. 56:16there's going to be a pound of debt.
  1436. 56:18Now, that debt is typically going to end
  1437. 56:19up with, you know, the poor,
  1438. 56:21uh, the sort of lower middle classes.
  1439. 56:23Those people end up with the debt and
  1440. 56:25they end up paying interest on that
  1441. 56:27money, which then goes back to the
  1442. 56:28banking sector and gets distributed to
  1443. 56:30the people working in the city or in
  1444. 56:33Wall Street. Um, and what this what this
  1445. 56:35system does overall is it distributes
  1446. 56:37money from from the poor to the rich,
  1447. 56:40essentially. Distributes money from, you
  1448. 56:43know, the poorer regions of the UK back
  1449. 56:45to the city of London.
  1450. 56:48And it it also distributes money from
  1451. 56:49all the small businesses, you know, all
  1452. 56:51the little factories, um, around the UK
  1453. 56:54and distributes that money back into the
  1454. 56:56financial sector.
  1455. 56:57>> We have a system whereby the activity of
  1456. 57:01actually supplying our nation's money
  1457. 57:04supply occurs under the very same roof
  1458. 57:06as the same organization that's
  1459. 57:08responsible for profiting from putting
  1460. 57:11together borrowers and lenders, i.e. a
  1461. 57:12bank.
  1462. 57:13So, a bank creates our nation's money
  1463. 57:16supply as well as
  1464. 57:18um, making loans,
  1465. 57:20uh, for profit.
  1466. 57:21>> The government cannot allow the banking
  1467. 57:22system to fail
  1468. 57:24because if it did,
  1469. 57:26over 97% of all money would disappear.
  1470. 57:29This is why in the event of a crisis,
  1471. 57:32the risk is transferred to the taxpayer.
  1472. 57:35But even during normal times, banks
  1473. 57:37receive numerous guarantees and benefits
  1474. 57:39beyond the right to create money.
  1475. 57:42>> Well, by the way, I know the Bank of
  1476. 57:43America is a very big bank. It happens
  1477. 57:45I've got $32 in myself.
  1478. 57:47Just between us, what assurance do I
  1479. 57:49have that this money is safe?
  1480. 57:52>> Well, all deposits up to $10,000 are
  1481. 57:55assured or insured by the federal
  1482. 57:57government in Washington.
  1483. 57:58>> That's my guarantee.
  1484. 57:59>> Yes.
  1485. 58:00>> Have you heard that the federal
  1486. 58:01government is about $280 billion in the
  1487. 58:04hole?
  1488. 58:09>> Banks receive large safety nets from the
  1489. 58:11government.
  1490. 58:12The taxpayer guarantees £85,000 as
  1491. 58:15deposit insurance.
  1492. 58:17And the Bank of England provides
  1493. 58:19liquidity insurance in case a bank runs
  1494. 58:21out of reserve currency.
  1495. 58:28>> Someone wrote that a big investment bank
  1496. 58:31is like a giant vampire squid
  1497. 58:35wrapped around the face of humanity
  1498. 58:38hypnotizing politicians who throw money
  1499. 58:40at the banks.
  1500. 58:42No strings attached. No matter what
  1501. 58:45damage is done.
  1502. 58:47Trashing the planet.
  1503. 58:49Forcing cuts to things that make life
  1504. 58:51better.
  1505. 58:53Goodbye schools.
  1506. 58:55Goodbye playgrounds.
  1507. 58:57Goodbye jobs.
  1508. 59:00The bankers that we bailed out then gave
  1509. 59:03themselves bonuses that were bigger than
  1510. 59:06the first wave of public spending cuts.
  1511. 59:10Britain alone gave the banks more money
  1512. 59:13than it cost to put a man on the moon
  1513. 59:16six times over.
  1514. 59:19Where did our money go?
  1515. 59:21Who let the banks get away with it?
  1516. 59:24Why?
  1517. 59:26Can vampire squids ever be useful?
  1518. 59:30No government yet is brave enough to
  1519. 59:32tame them.
  1520. 59:34Perhaps
  1521. 59:35they need a plan.
  1522. 59:55>> The spending cuts agenda is an attempt
  1523. 59:57by the government to shift debt from its
  1524. 59:59account to that of the public.
  1525. 1:00:03This is the government's response to the
  1526. 1:00:04bank bailouts and is necessary in a
  1527. 1:00:07debt-based monetary system
  1528. 1:00:09where increased purchasing power is the
  1529. 1:00:11result of growing debt
  1530. 1:00:13and where a diversification of debt
  1531. 1:00:15provides overall stability and market
  1532. 1:00:17confidence.
  1533. 1:00:19Policies such as student fee increases
  1534. 1:00:22and the privatization of public
  1535. 1:00:23services, assets, and industry follow
  1536. 1:00:26the same model.
  1537. 1:00:28>> The problem we're facing, I think, is
  1538. 1:00:30that uh
  1539. 1:00:31there's been there's this transference
  1540. 1:00:32from the the public debt to to the
  1541. 1:00:34private debt, which is a which is
  1542. 1:00:36essentially a a way of transferring
  1543. 1:00:38risk, actually, away from sort of UK PLC
  1544. 1:00:42and the government onto the the heads of
  1545. 1:00:45individuals. And it's going to be the
  1546. 1:00:46most vulnerable individuals who are
  1547. 1:00:48going to have the most debt. Uh thus,
  1548. 1:00:50it's a very unprogressive, regressive uh
  1549. 1:00:53policy framework that that the
  1550. 1:00:55government's embarking on, where the
  1551. 1:00:57risk is moved onto those who are most
  1552. 1:00:59vulnerable. And if there is another
  1553. 1:01:02financial shock, if there's an oil
  1554. 1:01:03shock, for example, the people who will
  1555. 1:01:05pay the penalty are those are the
  1556. 1:01:07poorest people in society or homeowners,
  1557. 1:01:09for example, who will fall into negative
  1558. 1:01:12equity if interest rates go up even 1 or
  1559. 1:01:142% uh there'll be real, really big
  1560. 1:01:17problems. So, I don't think it's a a
  1561. 1:01:19sensible way forward at the moment at
  1562. 1:01:21all, and it's uh it's regressive, and
  1563. 1:01:23it's certainly not fair
  1564. 1:01:25in the terms that
  1565. 1:01:27that the government's talking about, and
  1566. 1:01:28it's certainly not a case of we're in
  1567. 1:01:30this together.
  1568. 1:01:32>> As more of a country's resources and
  1569. 1:01:34industries are privatized, the private
  1570. 1:01:36sector takes on more debt.
  1571. 1:01:38As a result, more money is created, and
  1572. 1:01:41there is a boom.
  1573. 1:01:44Some private equity companies have taken
  1574. 1:01:46this theory to the extreme,
  1575. 1:01:48engaging in a practice known as a
  1576. 1:01:50leveraged buyout,
  1577. 1:01:53where a company is purchased at an often
  1578. 1:01:55inflated price, and the purchase price
  1579. 1:01:58is transferred to the business as a
  1580. 1:01:59debt.
  1581. 1:02:02The company becomes responsible for the
  1582. 1:02:04funding of its own purchase.
  1583. 1:02:06These debts are often so great that the
  1584. 1:02:09company needs to reduce staff, salaries,
  1585. 1:02:12and research activities.
  1586. 1:02:16>> When you have to factor interest as a
  1587. 1:02:17business, if you have to factor interest
  1588. 1:02:19repayment into your goods and services,
  1589. 1:02:22then you have to charge a perpetually
  1590. 1:02:24higher price as you take on more and
  1591. 1:02:25more debt.
  1592. 1:02:27>> An increase in the diversification of
  1593. 1:02:29debt results in an increase in the money
  1594. 1:02:31supply.
  1595. 1:02:33When the money supply increases, more
  1596. 1:02:35money is available for productive
  1597. 1:02:37activities and consumption,
  1598. 1:02:39which is the condition for a boom.
  1599. 1:02:43>> It's questionable whether we're going to
  1600. 1:02:45get out of this recession or whether
  1601. 1:02:46we'll just keep ticking along the way
  1602. 1:02:48that we are now.
  1603. 1:02:49Um however, if we do,
  1604. 1:02:52then when we come out of this recession,
  1605. 1:02:54when growth starts again, look at what
  1606. 1:02:56happens to debt. It will rise, and it
  1607. 1:02:58will keep rising, and the faster the
  1608. 1:03:00economy is growing, the faster the debt
  1609. 1:03:01will rise. And then, give it another
  1610. 1:03:043 to 5 years,
  1611. 1:03:06we'll be back where we were. You know,
  1612. 1:03:07the debt will become too much, people
  1613. 1:03:09will start defaulting again.
  1614. 1:03:10Um it's kind of the system that we're
  1615. 1:03:12locked into now is we can't we can't
  1616. 1:03:14grow the economy without growing the
  1617. 1:03:16debt, and the debt is the very thing
  1618. 1:03:18that will bring down the economy.
  1619. 1:03:20The only option going forwards is to
  1620. 1:03:21reform it, to stop banks from creating
  1621. 1:03:23money as debt.
  1622. 1:03:25By fixing the monetary system, we can
  1623. 1:03:27prevent the banks from ever causing
  1624. 1:03:29another financial crisis, and we can
  1625. 1:03:31also make the the current, you know,
  1626. 1:03:33public service cuts and the tax rises,
  1627. 1:03:35and the increase in national debt
  1628. 1:03:37unnecessary.
  1629. 1:03:40>> The current monetary system allows the
  1630. 1:03:42banking sector to extract wealth from
  1631. 1:03:44the economy whilst providing nothing
  1632. 1:03:46productive in return.
  1633. 1:03:49>> I mean, why is it that we've got all
  1634. 1:03:51this technology, um
  1635. 1:03:53you know, all this new efficiency, and
  1636. 1:03:55yet it now requires two people to
  1637. 1:03:57finance a household,
  1638. 1:03:59whereas in the '50s it only needed one
  1639. 1:04:01person working? And the reason for that
  1640. 1:04:04is not because, you know, these washing
  1641. 1:04:06machines and everything are more
  1642. 1:04:07expensive, it's because of all the debt.
  1643. 1:04:10And it's because, you know, effectively
  1644. 1:04:11the banking sector's creaming it off
  1645. 1:04:13from everybody else. So, a growing
  1646. 1:04:15banking sector isn't a sign, you know,
  1647. 1:04:17it's not a good thing. If the banking
  1648. 1:04:19sector's growing, it's either that it's
  1649. 1:04:21becoming less efficient, or it's
  1650. 1:04:22becoming a parasite on the rest of the
  1651. 1:04:24economy.
  1652. 1:04:25And that's, you know, we can talk about
  1653. 1:04:26the banking sector becoming 4%, 5%, 6%
  1654. 1:04:29of GDP,
  1655. 1:04:31what's happening to the rest of the
  1656. 1:04:32economy? It's becoming 96%, 95%, 94% of
  1657. 1:04:35GDP. We've got to get switched on to
  1658. 1:04:37this now. You know, if you want to
  1659. 1:04:39if you want to have a chance of tackling
  1660. 1:04:41any of the other big social issues,
  1661. 1:04:43you've got to figure out the money
  1662. 1:04:44issue.
  1663. 1:04:45>> The poorest in the world pay for crises,
  1664. 1:04:48even when they've not benefited from the
  1665. 1:04:50the often reckless and speculative
  1666. 1:04:53booms, like the housing boom in in
  1667. 1:04:55Ireland that that preceded
  1668. 1:04:57that crisis. You know, over the last 30
  1669. 1:04:59years we've seen income differentials
  1670. 1:05:02increase, so that the rich have got
  1671. 1:05:04much, much richer,
  1672. 1:05:06and ordinary people haven't. They've
  1673. 1:05:07stayed the same, or they've they've got
  1674. 1:05:09poorer.
  1675. 1:05:10And one of the ways that the economy was
  1676. 1:05:11kept going was by providing cheap
  1677. 1:05:14credit. Was provide providing debt to
  1678. 1:05:15those very people who couldn't really
  1679. 1:05:17afford things anymore. Um, so they kept
  1680. 1:05:19buying. Um, and when it collapses, it's
  1681. 1:05:22those same people that that have to pay
  1682. 1:05:24once again. Even though in in many ways
  1683. 1:05:26they were the victims the first time
  1684. 1:05:28round.
  1685. 1:05:29>> As a result of the crisis, the Bank of
  1686. 1:05:31England has bought corporate debt
  1687. 1:05:33and repackaged it at lower rates of
  1688. 1:05:35interest.
  1689. 1:05:37Yet the average person is being asked to
  1690. 1:05:39pay more than ever to borrow on
  1691. 1:05:41overdrafts and credit cards.
  1692. 1:05:44>> Debts between the very wealthy, um, or
  1693. 1:05:47between governments can always be
  1694. 1:05:49renegotiated and always have been
  1695. 1:05:51throughout world history. They are not
  1696. 1:05:53anything set in stone. It's generally
  1697. 1:05:55speaking when you have debts owed by the
  1698. 1:05:57poor to the rich that suddenly debts
  1699. 1:05:59become a sacred obligation, more
  1700. 1:06:00important than anything else.
  1701. 1:06:02Um, the idea of renegotiating them
  1702. 1:06:04becomes unthinkable.
  1703. 1:06:07>> Can you pin down exactly what would keep
  1704. 1:06:09investors happy, make them feel more
  1705. 1:06:12confident?
  1706. 1:06:14>> Uh, that's a tough one. Um,
  1707. 1:06:17personally, uh, it doesn't matter.
  1708. 1:06:18That's it. See, I'm a trader. Uh, I
  1709. 1:06:20don't really care about that kind of
  1710. 1:06:21stuff.
  1711. 1:06:25If I see an opportunity to make money, I
  1712. 1:06:27go with that. Um, so for most traders,
  1713. 1:06:30we don't really care that much how
  1714. 1:06:32they're going to fix the how they're
  1715. 1:06:33going to fix the economy, how they're
  1716. 1:06:34going to fix the uh, the whole
  1717. 1:06:35situation.
  1718. 1:06:36Our job is to make money from it. And
  1719. 1:06:39personally, I've been dreaming of this
  1720. 1:06:41moment for 3 years.
  1721. 1:06:43If you know what to do, you can make a
  1722. 1:06:45lot of money from this. Uh, I I I had a
  1723. 1:06:46confession which is
  1724. 1:06:48uh, I go to bed every night, I dream of
  1725. 1:06:49another recession. I dream of another
  1726. 1:06:51moment like this.
  1727. 1:06:53I dream of another recession. I dream of
  1728. 1:06:54another moment like this.
  1729. 1:06:56You can make a lot of money from this.
  1730. 1:07:00>> Bruno, Virginia hurt somebody real bad.
  1731. 1:07:05You ought to hate her.
  1732. 1:07:07>> Incoming!
  1733. 1:07:10>> The way in which you can look across
  1734. 1:07:12Europe now and see that the new prime
  1735. 1:07:15minister of Greece, not elected, is
  1736. 1:07:16essentially imposed Papademos, former
  1737. 1:07:18employee of Goldman Sachs, the new prime
  1738. 1:07:21minister and finance minister of Italy,
  1739. 1:07:23Mario Monti, former employee of Goldman
  1740. 1:07:24Sachs, the new president of the European
  1741. 1:07:26Central Bank, former employee of Goldman
  1742. 1:07:28Sachs. It's quite, you know, you kind of
  1743. 1:07:30see these people popping up absolutely
  1744. 1:07:31everywhere.
  1745. 1:07:32>> That's the way to change what we have,
  1746. 1:07:34take all power and all freedoms away
  1747. 1:07:36from the people, and collect everything
  1748. 1:07:38into the hands of one small group with
  1749. 1:07:40absolute power.
  1750. 1:07:43From the people,
  1751. 1:07:45without the people,
  1752. 1:07:47against the people.
  1753. 1:07:49>> What's been interesting out of all this,
  1754. 1:07:51I suppose, is the question of democracy
  1755. 1:07:53that's been opened up very starkly in
  1756. 1:07:55Europe, that that you have a government
  1757. 1:07:56of bankers essentially imposed on you.
  1758. 1:07:58It's bankers who more or less got us
  1759. 1:08:00into this mess, to put it rather
  1760. 1:08:02crudely, but that's a good first
  1761. 1:08:03approximation to it. And then you say,
  1762. 1:08:06"Okay, bankers are the people who are
  1763. 1:08:07therefore going to get us out of it."
  1764. 1:08:08And incidentally, they're going to run
  1765. 1:08:09your your country now. There's there's
  1766. 1:08:10there's a serious question of democracy
  1767. 1:08:12that's opened up here.
  1768. 1:08:13>> By the way, the banking crisis
  1769. 1:08:15drove more than a hundred million people
  1770. 1:08:19back into poverty.
  1771. 1:08:22The mortality statistics of people who
  1772. 1:08:25go into poverty rise hugely
  1773. 1:08:28for a whole range of reasons. So, the
  1774. 1:08:31banking crisis isn't just about becoming
  1775. 1:08:33poorer, it was about killing people as
  1776. 1:08:34well.
  1777. 1:08:36And guess what?
  1778. 1:08:38We haven't really got to the bottom of
  1779. 1:08:40it. We never held anybody to account,
  1780. 1:08:42and we haven't done the radical
  1781. 1:08:43reforming job that we really needed to
  1782. 1:08:45do.
  1783. 1:08:46Because we mistakenly thought
  1784. 1:08:50if we destabilize the position any
  1785. 1:08:51further, it'll make matters worse. And
  1786. 1:08:54guess who took the decisions? All the
  1787. 1:08:56people who were there in the first
  1788. 1:08:57place.
  1789. 1:09:00>> I think you ought to know that the
  1790. 1:09:02business of one of these businessmen is
  1791. 1:09:04murder.
  1792. 1:09:11>> Their weapons are modern.
  1793. 1:09:13Their thinking
  1794. 1:09:152,000 years
  1795. 1:09:17out of date.
  1796. 1:09:26>> Look, I was there when the secretary and
  1797. 1:09:28the chairman of Federal Reserve came
  1798. 1:09:30those days and talked with members of
  1799. 1:09:32Congress about what was going on. It was
  1800. 1:09:35about September 15th. Here's the facts
  1801. 1:09:37and we don't even need talk about these
  1802. 1:09:39things. On Thursday at about 11:00 in
  1803. 1:09:43the morning the Federal Reserve noticed
  1804. 1:09:46a tremendous drawdown of
  1805. 1:09:50uh
  1806. 1:09:51money market accounts in the United
  1807. 1:09:53States to the tune of $550
  1808. 1:09:56billion
  1809. 1:09:58was being drawn out in a matter of an
  1810. 1:10:00hour or two. The Treasury opened up its
  1811. 1:10:05window to help. They pumped $105 billion
  1812. 1:10:09in the system and quickly realized that
  1813. 1:10:11they could not stem the tide. We were
  1814. 1:10:13having an electronic run on the banks.
  1815. 1:10:17They decided to close the operation,
  1816. 1:10:19close down the money accounts and
  1817. 1:10:22announce a guarantee of $250,000
  1818. 1:10:25per account so there wouldn't be further
  1819. 1:10:27panic out there and that's what actually
  1820. 1:10:29happened. If they had not done that
  1821. 1:10:31that their estimation was that by 2:00
  1822. 1:10:34that afternoon $5.5 trillion
  1823. 1:10:38would have been drawn out of the money
  1824. 1:10:40market system of the United States,
  1825. 1:10:42would have collapsed the entire economy
  1826. 1:10:45of the United States and within 24 hours
  1827. 1:10:47the world economy would have collapsed.
  1828. 1:10:51>> When money is withdrawn internationally
  1829. 1:10:52from one currency to another
  1830. 1:10:55the reserve currency shifts from the
  1831. 1:10:57National Bank of one country
  1832. 1:10:59to the reserve account of the foreign
  1833. 1:11:01bank.
  1834. 1:11:03Foreign banks have relationships with
  1835. 1:11:04local banks that allow them to hold
  1836. 1:11:07foreign reserve currencies whilst not
  1837. 1:11:09being a part of the central bank scheme
  1838. 1:11:12at the local central bank.
  1839. 1:11:17For example,
  1840. 1:11:18when 1,000 pounds is transferred into
  1841. 1:11:20euros,
  1842. 1:11:23a UK bank will agree an exchange rate
  1843. 1:11:25with a euro area bank,
  1844. 1:11:28perhaps 1.15 euros to the pound.
  1845. 1:11:32The UK bank will then transfer 1,000
  1846. 1:11:34pounds of the central reserve currency
  1847. 1:11:37to the UK partner bank of the European
  1848. 1:11:39bank.
  1849. 1:11:40Whilst the European bank will transfer
  1850. 1:11:431,150
  1851. 1:11:44euros of reserve currency to the
  1852. 1:11:47European partner bank of the UK bank.
  1853. 1:11:51>> What happens when currencies and the
  1854. 1:11:53exchange rate system is no longer
  1855. 1:11:54managed? What are some of the first
  1856. 1:11:56consequences?
  1857. 1:11:58Devaluations,
  1858. 1:11:59speculation,
  1859. 1:12:01imbalances where some countries would
  1860. 1:12:04accrue more and more and more
  1861. 1:12:05what? What would they accrue?
  1862. 1:12:08Other currencies.
  1863. 1:12:10Other currencies.
  1864. 1:12:14>> The reserve currency needs to be spent
  1865. 1:12:15in the country of origin
  1866. 1:12:17or exchanged into other currencies.
  1867. 1:12:21Most foreign banks do not have deposit
  1868. 1:12:24taking accounts outside of their
  1869. 1:12:25national borders
  1870. 1:12:27and as such, the foreign reserves they
  1871. 1:12:29hold do not come back to them in the
  1872. 1:12:31form of deposits.
  1873. 1:12:35When a country accumulates trade
  1874. 1:12:36imbalances,
  1875. 1:12:38it either accumulates foreign reserve
  1876. 1:12:40currencies
  1877. 1:12:41in the case of surplus
  1878. 1:12:43or spends its own reserves
  1879. 1:12:46in the case of negative trade balances.
  1880. 1:12:49>> Balance of trade is is basically uh
  1881. 1:12:52the
  1882. 1:12:53between what you're selling abroad
  1883. 1:12:55and what you're buying from abroad. Now,
  1884. 1:12:57the feature on the UK is that for a very
  1885. 1:13:01long period of time it's had a deficit
  1886. 1:13:04on something called visible balance of
  1887. 1:13:05trade, which is trading things things
  1888. 1:13:07that you can see. So, that is goods that
  1889. 1:13:10you'd recognize, stuff you can put in
  1890. 1:13:11containers, it's cars, computers, things
  1891. 1:13:14that you'd see in a shop. That's been in
  1892. 1:13:16substantial deficit for I think opened
  1893. 1:13:19up in in the
  1894. 1:13:20did open up in the early 1980s and
  1895. 1:13:23essentially it hasn't it hasn't gone
  1896. 1:13:24away since if anything has got wider and
  1897. 1:13:26wider.
  1898. 1:13:27>> Foreign exchange reserves cannot be
  1899. 1:13:29directly used for domestic spending.
  1900. 1:13:32The money can only be spent abroad
  1901. 1:13:35or on imports.
  1902. 1:13:39A country with a large balance of trade
  1903. 1:13:41deficit
  1904. 1:13:42relies on its creditors to spend the
  1905. 1:13:44imbalances accrued in its own market.
  1906. 1:13:48>> I mean there there have been proposals
  1907. 1:13:49in the past to try and create a
  1908. 1:13:51mechanism
  1909. 1:13:53for those imbalances to to match up.
  1910. 1:13:55So, Keynes for instance, John Maynard
  1911. 1:13:58Keynes,
  1912. 1:13:59at the end of the Second World War, his
  1913. 1:14:00original proposal for
  1914. 1:14:02what became Bretton Woods and the set of
  1915. 1:14:04institutions set up there like the IMF
  1916. 1:14:06and the World Bank was that there would
  1917. 1:14:07be a kind of international clearing
  1918. 1:14:09union. This is particularly relating to
  1919. 1:14:11to the trade side rather than the sort
  1920. 1:14:13of the financial side directly. But, the
  1921. 1:14:15principle was that, you know, once trade
  1922. 1:14:16balances had opened up everybody would
  1923. 1:14:18bank through an international clearing
  1924. 1:14:20bank
  1925. 1:14:21and that would kind of force everyone to
  1926. 1:14:23to eventually reconcile the imbalances
  1927. 1:14:25that appeared in the real economy.
  1928. 1:14:28>> But, no such mechanism exists.
  1929. 1:14:31The accumulated net trade imbalance for
  1930. 1:14:34the UK is around 800 billion pounds.
  1931. 1:14:46>> In essence, what has happened is that
  1932. 1:14:48over many years some countries have had
  1933. 1:14:50big trade surpluses and others big trade
  1934. 1:14:52deficits.
  1935. 1:14:53The countries with trade deficits have
  1936. 1:14:55been spending more than they've been
  1937. 1:14:57earning, so they've had to borrow from
  1938. 1:14:58abroad. And they've been doing this year
  1939. 1:15:01after year.
  1940. 1:15:02Countries like that are the United
  1941. 1:15:04States,
  1942. 1:15:05ourselves, and some other countries in
  1943. 1:15:07Europe. That cannot go on.
  1944. 1:15:10And there are two ways in which this can
  1945. 1:15:11come to an end. Either, and we're seeing
  1946. 1:15:13this in some other countries in Europe,
  1947. 1:15:15if they can't find new ways to become
  1948. 1:15:17competitive, then their ability to repay
  1949. 1:15:20the debts is called into question.
  1950. 1:15:22Another way of doing it, which we
  1951. 1:15:23followed, is that we got a credible plan
  1952. 1:15:26to repay our debts.
  1953. 1:15:27And the value of sterling has fallen by
  1954. 1:15:2925% to make our exports more competitive
  1955. 1:15:33and attractive to overseas buyers.
  1956. 1:15:35And it to be more attractive for British
  1957. 1:15:37consumers to buy from British producers
  1958. 1:15:39rather than overseas producers. That is
  1959. 1:15:42what we have done to put in place a
  1960. 1:15:43framework to rebalance our economy, and
  1961. 1:15:46I'm sure that's the right way to do it.
  1962. 1:15:49>> Currency war,
  1963. 1:15:50also known as competitive devaluation,
  1964. 1:15:53is a condition where countries compete
  1965. 1:15:55against each other to achieve a
  1966. 1:15:57relatively low exchange rate for their
  1967. 1:15:59currency.
  1968. 1:16:00As the price to buy a particular
  1969. 1:16:02currency falls,
  1970. 1:16:03so too does the real price of exports
  1971. 1:16:05from that country.
  1972. 1:16:08Domestic industry receives a boost in
  1973. 1:16:10demand both at home and abroad.
  1974. 1:16:14>> It's made British exports appear rather
  1975. 1:16:16cheaper, so they've kind of recovered a
  1976. 1:16:18little bit, but because the rest of the
  1977. 1:16:19world is now looking really quite ropy,
  1978. 1:16:21they've started to fall back down again.
  1979. 1:16:23So, what we're looking at is something
  1980. 1:16:24that that
  1981. 1:16:25almost a kind of anarchy. And in a way,
  1982. 1:16:28the increasing anarchy. This is what's
  1983. 1:16:29happened over the last few years where
  1984. 1:16:31you know, the Brazilian finance minister
  1985. 1:16:33has been most vocal about this, talking
  1986. 1:16:35about currency wars, talking about the
  1987. 1:16:37desire of national governments when
  1988. 1:16:40confronted by a major recession. They
  1989. 1:16:42think if we could export more, we could
  1990. 1:16:44dig ourselves out of this recession. If
  1991. 1:16:46we want to export more, we depreciate
  1992. 1:16:48our currency. That makes our goods
  1993. 1:16:50cheaper, everyone else buys them, we'll
  1994. 1:16:52all be better off. Now, the issue here
  1995. 1:16:54is that if you depreciate, it's like
  1996. 1:16:56everybody else appreciates against you.
  1997. 1:16:58Their stuff becomes more expensive. So,
  1998. 1:17:00they're not too happy about that. They
  1999. 1:17:01also want to depreciate. And this is
  2000. 1:17:03where you can see a competitive round of
  2001. 1:17:04devaluations breaking out.
  2002. 1:17:07>> To decrease the value of its national
  2003. 1:17:09currency,
  2004. 1:17:10a national central bank sells reserve
  2005. 1:17:12currency into the market.
  2006. 1:17:15It creates this currency out of nothing
  2007. 1:17:17by typing numbers into a computer.
  2008. 1:17:33During the long phase of commodity
  2009. 1:17:35money,
  2010. 1:17:36the exchange rate would depend on the
  2011. 1:17:37amount of gold, silver,
  2012. 1:17:40or copper contained in the coins of each
  2013. 1:17:42country.
  2014. 1:17:43Similarly, after the advent of paper
  2015. 1:17:46money and the gold standard,
  2016. 1:17:49the exchange rate depended on the amount
  2017. 1:17:51of gold a government promised to pay the
  2018. 1:17:52holder of the bank notes.
  2019. 1:17:54These amounts did not vary greatly in
  2020. 1:17:56the short term.
  2021. 1:17:58And as such, exchange rates between
  2022. 1:18:00currencies were relatively stable.
  2023. 1:18:05After the Second World War, currencies
  2024. 1:18:07were pegged to the dollar,
  2025. 1:18:09and the dollar was backed by gold.
  2026. 1:18:12This system came to an end in 1971.
  2027. 1:18:15>> So, we have a modern financial system
  2028. 1:18:18where money
  2029. 1:18:19is now chaotically organized. There is
  2030. 1:18:22no exchange rate because there's no gold
  2031. 1:18:24standard system to sustain.
  2032. 1:18:26So, we don't need it. In fact, we
  2033. 1:18:28believe the market will resolve all of
  2034. 1:18:29the problems of exchange. Whether your
  2035. 1:18:31currency should be worth more than mine
  2036. 1:18:33is a reflection of your economy relative
  2037. 1:18:35to mine. And if that changes, the
  2038. 1:18:37currency and the exchange rate can
  2039. 1:18:38change. And if we need that to happen,
  2040. 1:18:41it'll happen magically by the efficiency
  2041. 1:18:42of market and profit seeking and you
  2042. 1:18:45guys know the rest, I think.
  2043. 1:18:48>> A currency's value in relation to
  2044. 1:18:49another currency is determined by the
  2045. 1:18:51market.
  2046. 1:18:53If more people want to buy a currency
  2047. 1:18:55than sell it, its value increases.
  2048. 1:18:58If more people want to sell,
  2049. 1:19:01its value decreases.
  2050. 1:19:03The value is set by individual banks.
  2051. 1:19:06As they buy and sell currencies, they
  2052. 1:19:08will adjust the exchange rate.
  2053. 1:19:11>> In the la- last study I read in 2007,
  2054. 1:19:15each day on currency markets, 3.2
  2055. 1:19:19trillion dollars are traded each day.
  2056. 1:19:24Who knows what the global GDP is?
  2057. 1:19:2850. Again, Brucey, higher.
  2058. 1:19:3260, that's closer.
  2059. 1:19:33The point is, think about that exchange
  2060. 1:19:36happening every single day. There's
  2061. 1:19:38about 260 business days a year.
  2062. 1:19:41It takes a few weeks to match the global
  2063. 1:19:45value of every economic transaction that
  2064. 1:19:48happens everywhere, every day in a year.
  2065. 1:19:52And it takes a few weeks.
  2066. 1:19:54>> Obviously, all of us trade currency
  2067. 1:19:56very, very regularly. If you go abroad,
  2068. 1:19:58you exchange into another currency.
  2069. 1:19:59That's a form of currency trading.
  2070. 1:20:01You're swapping your pounds into
  2071. 1:20:03whatever euros or yen or whatever it
  2072. 1:20:05might be. That happens very regularly,
  2073. 1:20:07and that's a conventional part of the
  2074. 1:20:09trading process. Now, large corporations
  2075. 1:20:11have to do this
  2076. 1:20:12on a regular basis. Where it becomes
  2077. 1:20:14something that people question,
  2078. 1:20:16where you get people saying, "Well, hang
  2079. 1:20:18on, this is speculation." is when you
  2080. 1:20:19get people realizing that currencies
  2081. 1:20:21move around next to each other. And if
  2082. 1:20:23they move around in value next to each
  2083. 1:20:24other, there's always an opportunity to
  2084. 1:20:25try and make money out of those changes
  2085. 1:20:27in value. And therefore, you can
  2086. 1:20:29speculate on it. And that's that's the
  2087. 1:20:30more sort of questionable end of the
  2088. 1:20:32market. That's the bit of the market
  2089. 1:20:33that things like a financial
  2090. 1:20:35transactions tax would try and chop away
  2091. 1:20:37at. Because the the assumption there,
  2092. 1:20:39and it's it's kind of not incorrect, is
  2093. 1:20:41that this just produces instability for
  2094. 1:20:43everyone else. That these people want
  2095. 1:20:45volatility in the market cuz that's how
  2096. 1:20:47they make their money. They want to
  2097. 1:20:48encourage it and they do encourage it by
  2098. 1:20:50uh, trading and speculating in the way
  2099. 1:20:51that they do.
  2100. 1:20:53>> By 2010,
  2101. 1:20:55the foreign exchange market had grown to
  2102. 1:20:57be the largest and most liquid market in
  2103. 1:20:59the world,
  2104. 1:21:01with an average of $4 trillion of
  2105. 1:21:03currency being exchanged every day.
  2106. 1:21:09>> Volatility creates a need. What does it
  2107. 1:21:12do to countries, especially perhaps
  2108. 1:21:15small ones like developing countries, if
  2109. 1:21:18there are suddenly huge and instantly
  2110. 1:21:21fluctuating financial flow?
  2111. 1:21:25What do they have to do to cope?
  2112. 1:21:27>> Their production of the products that
  2113. 1:21:29they're selling on the
  2114. 1:21:29>> Increase their production and sell more?
  2115. 1:21:33Lowering the price?
  2116. 1:21:35>> possibly even poorer.
  2117. 1:21:36>> And becoming possibly even poorer?
  2118. 1:21:37>> Once you start talking about the
  2119. 1:21:38international system, it it becomes
  2120. 1:21:40really quite a peculiar uh, quite
  2121. 1:21:43peculiar thing in that a lot of it
  2122. 1:21:45depends on simply sentiment and beliefs
  2123. 1:21:48about what an economy is like, rather
  2124. 1:21:50more than it depends on anything the
  2125. 1:21:51economy might or might not actually be
  2126. 1:21:52doing. And that can shift very very
  2127. 1:21:54rapidly because, you know, if if it's
  2128. 1:21:55just somebody's belief about a currency
  2129. 1:21:57is supportable,
  2130. 1:21:58uh, then you know, they can carry on
  2131. 1:22:00believing this until well, till
  2132. 1:22:01whenever. If that belief changes, it can
  2133. 1:22:03change very rapidly in a financial
  2134. 1:22:05market, the process of financial
  2135. 1:22:07contagion can can take place, you know,
  2136. 1:22:09in just minutes, seconds even. That you
  2137. 1:22:12can just move from being apparently
  2138. 1:22:14quite a stable, robust economy to being
  2139. 1:22:18one that suddenly sentiment has turned
  2140. 1:22:20against you and you find that markets
  2141. 1:22:23are picking on you. And it can often be
  2142. 1:22:24not much more than you're simply the
  2143. 1:22:26next door neighbor of, uh, you know, a
  2144. 1:22:28country that's currently in trouble.
  2145. 1:22:32>> Many of the world's financial crises in
  2146. 1:22:34the past 30 years have been caused by
  2147. 1:22:37rapid withdrawals of the nation's
  2148. 1:22:38currency
  2149. 1:22:40or the currencies of an entire region.
  2150. 1:22:43This type of activity is often referred
  2151. 1:22:45to as financial warfare.
  2152. 1:22:49>> It's benefited
  2153. 1:22:51major institutions really quite
  2154. 1:22:53substantially. Goldman Sachs, yeah, for
  2155. 1:22:55example, or any large bank has done
  2156. 1:22:58somewhat better out of this set of
  2157. 1:23:00arrangements than it would have done in
  2158. 1:23:02a formal regulated environment. It's
  2159. 1:23:03made people very very wealthy. It's
  2160. 1:23:05allowed financial markets to expand
  2161. 1:23:07absolutely enormously.
  2162. 1:23:09Anybody involved in that is keen on
  2163. 1:23:11seeing a deregulated world. In the case
  2164. 1:23:13of the UK, you have a government which
  2165. 1:23:15has been quite overtly and deliberately
  2166. 1:23:18and aggressively arguing against any
  2167. 1:23:20forms of regulation being imposed on
  2168. 1:23:22those financial markets. But it's not
  2169. 1:23:24the case that someone's behind the
  2170. 1:23:25scenes pulling the strings. It's It's
  2171. 1:23:27that This is This is how the thing works
  2172. 1:23:29quite deliberately, quite, you know,
  2173. 1:23:30overtly in front of you. That's the
  2174. 1:23:32world as it is. It's making some people
  2175. 1:23:33very rich, and they're quite happy with
  2176. 1:23:35it.
  2177. 1:23:38>> I think it is a form of
  2178. 1:23:40economic warfare.
  2179. 1:23:42Much of the the change in the in the way
  2180. 1:23:45that the global economy works over the
  2181. 1:23:47last 30 years result from this this debt
  2182. 1:23:50this third world debt because it's given
  2183. 1:23:53rich countries and banks and financial
  2184. 1:23:55sector enormous amounts of power and
  2185. 1:23:57control over the poorer bits of the
  2186. 1:24:00world where a lot of the resources are
  2187. 1:24:01that we like using. And that's been used
  2188. 1:24:05in a way that many people have compared
  2189. 1:24:07to a form of colonialism. It's a very
  2190. 1:24:09real direct form of of power that's been
  2191. 1:24:13used over those countries to force those
  2192. 1:24:15countries to do what are really in the
  2193. 1:24:17interests of the richest segments of the
  2194. 1:24:19world that they do. And as a result of
  2195. 1:24:22that, not only have corporations become
  2196. 1:24:24absolutely in very, you know, made huge
  2197. 1:24:27amounts of profits and become absolutely
  2198. 1:24:29enormous and
  2199. 1:24:30and all pervasive,
  2200. 1:24:32but the financial sector has become even
  2201. 1:24:34bigger than that and the and the real
  2202. 1:24:36money in in the world
  2203. 1:24:38to be made today is not by producing
  2204. 1:24:40anything at all. It's simply by forms of
  2205. 1:24:43speculating, basically making money from
  2206. 1:24:45money. That's the most profitable and
  2207. 1:24:47and by far and away the the biggest form
  2208. 1:24:51of of of activity of economic activity
  2209. 1:24:53that exists in the world today.
  2210. 1:24:56>> To protect themselves, vulnerable
  2211. 1:24:57countries need to accrue currency from
  2212. 1:25:00rich countries
  2213. 1:25:01who create these currencies out of
  2214. 1:25:03nothing.
  2215. 1:25:05>> The Netherlands first governor-general
  2216. 1:25:07of Indonesia, the man who built the
  2217. 1:25:09trade routes, fortified them.
  2218. 1:25:12What I mean by that is built forts along
  2219. 1:25:14them and fought Spanish fleets and
  2220. 1:25:16British fleets said about the
  2221. 1:25:18development of the of the of the
  2222. 1:25:21Netherlands empire, Netherlands trade
  2223. 1:25:24was we cannot make trade without war,
  2224. 1:25:27nor war without trade.
  2225. 1:25:31Money and power.
  2226. 1:25:39So, reserves have become the way in
  2227. 1:25:41which you can insure yourself against
  2228. 1:25:43what? Speculation. You said speculation.
  2229. 1:25:46Speculative attack.
  2230. 1:25:48>> Fall in the market.
  2231. 1:25:49>> Fall in the market.
  2232. 1:25:51Bubbles.
  2233. 1:25:54>> When a country succumbs to a speculative
  2234. 1:25:56attack, it is asked to deregulate its
  2235. 1:25:58markets and conform its financial system
  2236. 1:26:02to that of the dominant party.
  2237. 1:26:06>> The big problem that's faced by most
  2238. 1:26:08developing countries who got into a debt
  2239. 1:26:09crisis was that they were told by the
  2240. 1:26:12powers that be in the world, the
  2241. 1:26:13International Monetary Fund, which is in
  2242. 1:26:15many ways governs the the the global
  2243. 1:26:17financial system, that the way to get
  2244. 1:26:19out of debt actually is first of all to
  2245. 1:26:22to restructure your economy, especially
  2246. 1:26:24to increase your exports, so you're
  2247. 1:26:26earning more more dollars, and then you
  2248. 1:26:28can pay off your your debt, which is
  2249. 1:26:30normally in dollars or some other
  2250. 1:26:31foreign currency.
  2251. 1:26:33Unfortunately, time and time again that
  2252. 1:26:35was proved to to not be the case at all.
  2253. 1:26:37Actually, countries cut back their
  2254. 1:26:39public spending to the bone, so they
  2255. 1:26:40stopped growing, they stopped having any
  2256. 1:26:43potential for growth. Um and what they
  2257. 1:26:46did produce was was
  2258. 1:26:48was aimed at the export market, was
  2259. 1:26:49aimed at creating dollars or so on. So,
  2260. 1:26:50they were paying off their debts, but
  2261. 1:26:52they weren't
  2262. 1:26:53developing their own economy at all.
  2263. 1:26:55They were paying far far far more in
  2264. 1:26:57debt repayments than they were spending
  2265. 1:26:58on health or education or anything else.
  2266. 1:27:00And their debts just kept getting bigger
  2267. 1:27:01and bigger and bigger.
  2268. 1:27:03>> The country becomes a vassal state,
  2269. 1:27:05allowing large corporations to exploit
  2270. 1:27:08its natural resources and workforce.
  2271. 1:27:16>> It's not It's not even shadowy. It's
  2272. 1:27:17There's no great mystery about about
  2273. 1:27:19what what's happening here and about the
  2274. 1:27:20way the world operates. It's not It's
  2275. 1:27:22It's quite blunt. I mean, for for the
  2276. 1:27:23last 30 years, you've got something
  2277. 1:27:25pretty much everywhere, or certainly
  2278. 1:27:27spreads pretty much everywhere, that
  2279. 1:27:28generally gets labeled neoliberalism,
  2280. 1:27:30this idea that you should have floating
  2281. 1:27:33exchange rates, you know, weak
  2282. 1:27:35regulation, particularly financial
  2283. 1:27:36markets, minimal government interference
  2284. 1:27:39or involvement with what market it does.
  2285. 1:27:40And that's that's more or less how the
  2286. 1:27:41world operates. And then there are
  2287. 1:27:43institutions, and the outstanding one at
  2288. 1:27:45this point is the IMF, that that will
  2289. 1:27:47actively try and enforce this state of
  2290. 1:27:48affairs. So, it's it's not greatly
  2291. 1:27:51shadowy, if you see what I mean. That
  2292. 1:27:52that there are people behind the scenes
  2293. 1:27:54somewhere trying to manipulate stuff.
  2294. 1:27:55It's actually This is quite This is
  2295. 1:27:56quite overt. This This is happening. And
  2296. 1:27:58this is how
  2297. 1:27:59for entire my entire adult life,
  2298. 1:28:02actually, is what it starts to look
  2299. 1:28:03like, this is how the world the world
  2300. 1:28:05has operated. And it's made some people
  2301. 1:28:07very very wealthy. It's produced
  2302. 1:28:08enormous concentrations of wealth.
  2303. 1:28:10>> So, when the International Monetary Fund
  2304. 1:28:12comes in in order to try and uh
  2305. 1:28:15alleviate a country's debt problems, it
  2306. 1:28:17imposes a set of conditions. And in the
  2307. 1:28:191980s and 90s, they called that set of
  2308. 1:28:21conditions structural adjustment,
  2309. 1:28:22structural adjustment program. And it
  2310. 1:28:24tends to take very similar forms
  2311. 1:28:26wherever it happens. And indeed, we can
  2312. 1:28:27see structural adjustment programs in
  2313. 1:28:29essence happening today in countries
  2314. 1:28:30like Greece, and Portugal, and Ireland,
  2315. 1:28:33where countries are instructed to uh
  2316. 1:28:38decrease the amount that they spend on
  2317. 1:28:40the public sector.
  2318. 1:28:41Um they are instructed to liberalize
  2319. 1:28:44their their trade market, and liberalize
  2320. 1:28:46their capital market, so money can much
  2321. 1:28:50more easily come in and out of their
  2322. 1:28:51economy.
  2323. 1:28:52And the idea is that this will encourage
  2324. 1:28:54investment to come in from richer parts
  2325. 1:28:56of the world, and that all of their
  2326. 1:28:58problems will be solved from this
  2327. 1:29:00investment. And in actual fact, this has
  2328. 1:29:01proved um time and time again to be um
  2329. 1:29:05completely without foundation. In actual
  2330. 1:29:07fact, what happens is it destroys
  2331. 1:29:09fledgling industries and capacities in
  2332. 1:29:11these developing countries. And
  2333. 1:29:12developing countries become completely
  2334. 1:29:14dependent on goods and services from
  2335. 1:29:16developed countries, and also from
  2336. 1:29:17capital from developed countries. Uh one
  2337. 1:29:20of the things the International Monetary
  2338. 1:29:21Fund is very is very um keen on is um
  2339. 1:29:24telling countries to lower the taxes um
  2340. 1:29:27that should be paid by multinational
  2341. 1:29:28corporations when they come and operate
  2342. 1:29:30in a country, cuz then you'll encourage
  2343. 1:29:31more multinational corporations to come
  2344. 1:29:33in. Of course, what it also means is the
  2345. 1:29:35profits that are made by those
  2346. 1:29:36multinational corporations leave the
  2347. 1:29:38country just as quickly, and the country
  2348. 1:29:40itself doesn't benefit. And today, you
  2349. 1:29:42have many developing countries which
  2350. 1:29:44have got um almost no tax base. Um
  2351. 1:29:46they've not developed a tax base at all.
  2352. 1:29:48And so, they're even more dependent on
  2353. 1:29:51international capital markets, on the
  2354. 1:29:52money markets, on creating debt. Um and
  2355. 1:29:55that's why you have so many countries in
  2356. 1:29:57the world that have really been robbed
  2357. 1:29:58of their sovereignty. It's very
  2358. 1:30:00difficult to see how democratic
  2359. 1:30:01societies can evolve or function when
  2360. 1:30:03actually a government is more more
  2361. 1:30:05on the dictates of the International
  2362. 1:30:07Monetary Fund and the money markets than
  2363. 1:30:09it is on their own people.
  2364. 1:30:17>> What we've seen since the 1970s is a
  2365. 1:30:20dramatic increase
  2366. 1:30:21in a series of phenomena that have had a
  2367. 1:30:25a stimulative effect on the changes in
  2368. 1:30:27the financial system that have brought
  2369. 1:30:29us to the gleaming, shining metal in
  2370. 1:30:31steel
  2371. 1:30:32business that's over there.
  2372. 1:30:34In case you don't know, that's the City
  2373. 1:30:35of London I'm pointing at.
  2374. 1:30:37>> To compensate for the lack of a defined
  2375. 1:30:39commodity-based value underlying
  2376. 1:30:42currencies,
  2377. 1:30:43financial institutions developed
  2378. 1:30:45securitization
  2379. 1:30:47as a means to manage risk.
  2380. 1:30:50>> You know, you develop securitization as
  2381. 1:30:52a means to try and stabilize the whole
  2382. 1:30:54system. This is a set of financial
  2383. 1:30:56processes and financial innovations that
  2384. 1:30:58really accelerate from the '70s, '80s
  2385. 1:31:01onwards.
  2386. 1:31:01>> You had a chaotic system that needed to
  2387. 1:31:03manage risk. And you had to innovate.
  2388. 1:31:06You needed derivatives, options,
  2389. 1:31:09futures. You have new markets in
  2390. 1:31:12volatility management tools. Who knows
  2391. 1:31:14what the term hedging is?
  2392. 1:31:15>> Spreading your risk. Managing your risk.
  2393. 1:31:18Insuring against your risk. Precisely.
  2394. 1:31:21>> Well, until very recently, you know, up
  2395. 1:31:23until the 1960s, the Securities and
  2396. 1:31:25Exchange Commission would be quite clear
  2397. 1:31:27that, you know, derivatives that weren't
  2398. 1:31:29based on real products like agricultural
  2399. 1:31:31products, so pork belly futures or
  2400. 1:31:33whatever, would in fact be essentially
  2401. 1:31:35kind of gambling. And therefore, you
  2402. 1:31:37weren't allowed to trade them. That that
  2403. 1:31:38changes in the '60s, and everybody can
  2404. 1:31:40trade, you know,
  2405. 1:31:41uh currency futures,
  2406. 1:31:43things that are not based on real
  2407. 1:31:45products being traded at some point in
  2408. 1:31:47the future, but based on movements of
  2409. 1:31:48currency prices.
  2410. 1:31:50Once you have the system of fixed
  2411. 1:31:52exchange rates breaks down, obviously
  2412. 1:31:53this thing accelerates enormously. So,
  2413. 1:31:55as you get the roll back of government
  2414. 1:31:57regulation here, you get the market
  2415. 1:31:59taking over with its own products here.
  2416. 1:32:01And the theory is that the market's
  2417. 1:32:03better at regulating itself. It's more
  2418. 1:32:05stable than if you have a government
  2419. 1:32:06interfering all the time. The efficient
  2420. 1:32:08markets hypothesis, the idea that, you
  2421. 1:32:10know, you set up a financial market,
  2422. 1:32:12they're fast, everybody in them is well
  2423. 1:32:14informed, they all keep a very careful
  2424. 1:32:16eye on what everyone else is doing,
  2425. 1:32:17you'll therefore
  2426. 1:32:18be very stable, and it reflects real
  2427. 1:32:20changes in the economy. It's not going
  2428. 1:32:22to be driven by, you know, panics and
  2429. 1:32:24manias and speculative bubbles. None of
  2430. 1:32:27this really going to happen. If if there
  2431. 1:32:28is movement up and down, it's because
  2432. 1:32:30something real is happening, and traders
  2433. 1:32:33and investors in financial market
  2434. 1:32:34responding to it. So, that's the
  2435. 1:32:35efficient markets hypothesis. The
  2436. 1:32:37practice, but I think what you see in
  2437. 1:32:392008 is a kind of end of that process.
  2438. 1:32:41The appearance of this crisis so major,
  2439. 1:32:43the the belief that it will simply be
  2440. 1:32:46self-stabilizing, self-regulating really
  2441. 1:32:48can't carry on. I mean, the practice
  2442. 1:32:50carries on anyway, but you can't really
  2443. 1:32:51argue in the same way that you used to
  2444. 1:32:52that it's good or it's necessary or this
  2445. 1:32:54is okay for the world.
  2446. 1:33:00>> In the last decade, we had a new
  2447. 1:33:01innovation, something called the credit
  2448. 1:33:02default swap, a way of buying insurance
  2449. 1:33:05against the company you've invested in
  2450. 1:33:06going bust.
  2451. 1:33:07And in 2002,
  2452. 1:33:10they were less worth in total less than
  2453. 1:33:12a trillion dollars. In 2007, they were
  2454. 1:33:15worth 60 trillion dollars.
  2455. 1:33:18That's 5 years.
  2456. 1:33:20>> Everybody suddenly sitting there and
  2457. 1:33:22thinking, "Oh, these CDOs we've made
  2458. 1:33:25don't in fact provide the kind of
  2459. 1:33:27stability that we thought. The maths
  2460. 1:33:30that's inside of the risk is complete
  2461. 1:33:31nonsense, it turns out.
  2462. 1:33:33There's far more risk attached to
  2463. 1:33:36trying to securitize risk and securitize
  2464. 1:33:38debt in the way that we have done this
  2465. 1:33:40than we thought, and we think these
  2466. 1:33:42things are now worthless."
  2467. 1:33:46The attempt to get more and more complex
  2468. 1:33:48ways of regulating and shaping a
  2469. 1:33:50financial market and trying to make a
  2470. 1:33:52quick buck out of it as well, actually
  2471. 1:33:54helped produce the the opposite effect
  2472. 1:33:57of what its kind of apologetics said,
  2473. 1:33:59which is that it led to led to a
  2474. 1:34:00spectacular crash.
  2475. 1:34:06>> What we saw as a result of this very
  2476. 1:34:08different situation was one phenomenon
  2477. 1:34:12above all. One sector above all grew,
  2478. 1:34:15and that was the financial sector.
  2479. 1:34:18>> While the financial sector benefits
  2480. 1:34:20enormously from the current monetary
  2481. 1:34:22system, the system is neither stable nor
  2482. 1:34:25fair.
  2483. 1:34:26>> The assumption
  2484. 1:34:28in what the Bank of England does right
  2485. 1:34:30now is that the cash that we hold is
  2486. 1:34:33backed up by government debt. The
  2487. 1:34:35government can back up its promises by
  2488. 1:34:37the fact that it can tax the public. So,
  2489. 1:34:40what they're implying is that cash is
  2490. 1:34:42backed up by government debt, when get
  2491. 1:34:44government debt is backed up by the
  2492. 1:34:45ability of government to get cash from
  2493. 1:34:47the public.
  2494. 1:34:48>> Time and time again over the last 30
  2495. 1:34:49years, we've seen uh private debts being
  2496. 1:34:52transformed into into public debts. And
  2497. 1:34:56um
  2498. 1:34:56the ultimately the price of that debt is
  2499. 1:34:58paid by uh by the public in the in the
  2500. 1:35:01debtor country.
  2501. 1:35:04>> This is why spending cuts are necessary.
  2502. 1:35:07The system is designed to make certain
  2503. 1:35:09people very rich at the expense of a
  2504. 1:35:11nation's citizens and taxpayers.
  2505. 1:35:15The system lowers the standard of living
  2506. 1:35:17of the majority
  2507. 1:35:19and distributes this wealth among the
  2508. 1:35:21privileged.
  2509. 1:35:23>> So, what we're left with is a financial
  2510. 1:35:26system since the early '70s that has no
  2511. 1:35:28fixed exchange rates,
  2512. 1:35:30that suddenly has increasingly open
  2513. 1:35:33financial borders,
  2514. 1:35:35that has central banks having to manage
  2515. 1:35:38without having any control because
  2516. 1:35:40there's
  2517. 1:35:41nothing here
  2518. 1:35:42where the gold used to be.
  2519. 1:35:44Chaotically, they have to ease
  2520. 1:35:47quantitatively. They have to lend as a
  2521. 1:35:51lender of last resort.
  2522. 1:35:53>> Throughout history,
  2523. 1:35:54monetary systems were designed to give
  2524. 1:35:56the dominant international power
  2525. 1:35:59an advantage.
  2526. 1:36:00And this power is fiercely defended and
  2527. 1:36:03expanded on.
  2528. 1:36:12>> And they flee in terror from an
  2529. 1:36:14incredible bogeyman.
  2530. 1:36:18>> An American flag is burned at the height
  2531. 1:36:19of a demonstration. Both President
  2532. 1:36:21Johnson and Francisco Franco were
  2533. 1:36:23vilified. A new law in public protest
  2534. 1:36:26added strain on Spanish-American
  2535. 1:36:28relations.
  2536. 1:36:31>> Order in the court. Order in the court.
  2537. 1:36:36>> I want Americans in all the world to
  2538. 1:36:38know
  2539. 1:36:38>> Come on. Fire.
  2540. 1:36:39>> I want Americans in all the world to
  2541. 1:36:41know America has no regard for
  2542. 1:36:44conventions of war or rules of morality.
  2543. 1:36:48>> Fire.
  2544. 1:36:56>> Objection overruled.
  2545. 1:37:11>> And what I would like to see
  2546. 1:37:13is um
  2547. 1:37:15a a new kind of currency that is backed
  2548. 1:37:18by
  2549. 1:37:19uh something that that is scarce and
  2550. 1:37:21that we really need and we really value.
  2551. 1:37:24Something like energy or renewable
  2552. 1:37:26energy, for example. So, a a sort of
  2553. 1:37:28kilowatt-hour backed
  2554. 1:37:29currency would be would be very
  2555. 1:37:31interesting to me. We need to start
  2556. 1:37:33valuing the things that are most scarce
  2557. 1:37:36um and and that we need to survive as a
  2558. 1:37:39human race in the long run. And backing
  2559. 1:37:42an international currency with something
  2560. 1:37:43like that will generate enormous
  2561. 1:37:46investment in, for example, renewable
  2562. 1:37:48energy.
  2563. 1:37:50If that's the, you know, the primary
  2564. 1:37:51international um unit of account that's
  2565. 1:37:55that's that's being used. Uh another
  2566. 1:37:57option is is a basket of of currencies,
  2567. 1:38:00so you you know, you you mix up the
  2568. 1:38:02value of of of different currencies
  2569. 1:38:05um
  2570. 1:38:05to to create a very solid currency that
  2571. 1:38:07people have confidence in.
  2572. 1:38:11>> Perhaps even better would be a basket of
  2573. 1:38:14commodities with which to back up
  2574. 1:38:16international currencies.
  2575. 1:38:19>> Now, if it was possible
  2576. 1:38:21internationally, some way or another, to
  2577. 1:38:22get all these competing and increasingly
  2578. 1:38:25competing national economies together
  2579. 1:38:27and say,
  2580. 1:38:28uh we're all going to sit down and write
  2581. 1:38:30out an agreement, somewhat like the
  2582. 1:38:31Bretton Woods agreement, which will
  2583. 1:38:32allow for, unlike Bretton Woods, allow
  2584. 1:38:35for, you know, some currencies to to be
  2585. 1:38:37pegged against different baskets of
  2586. 1:38:39goods that more appropriate to to their
  2587. 1:38:41national economies. And you could sort
  2588. 1:38:43of arrange this. If you could have
  2589. 1:38:44arranged that to happen, then that would
  2590. 1:38:46be nice. And you can see how that would
  2591. 1:38:48start to create a kind of order in the
  2592. 1:38:50international macroeconomy, which is
  2593. 1:38:51otherwise lacking. The The real
  2594. 1:38:52difficulty there is just political. It's
  2595. 1:38:54like, who in earth is going to do this?
  2596. 1:38:56Who Who is the force that that's going
  2597. 1:38:58to kind of make this thing happen?
  2598. 1:39:02>> Creating a monetary system which is both
  2599. 1:39:04fair and stable
  2600. 1:39:06is possible and can be achieved.
  2601. 1:39:09What are international organizations for
  2602. 1:39:13if not for such a purpose?

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