Nvidia’s Drama Could Be a Gift for These 4 Stocks — Transcript
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- 0:00Hey everyone and welcome back to another
- 0:01video for today. It's almost weekend
- 0:03guys and girls, 7.3% of you so we can
- 0:07finally maybe rest a little bit.
- 0:09Although I'm pretty sure that over the
- 0:11next couple of days, yes, even during
- 0:12the weekend we're going to hear a lot
- 0:14more about the Nvidia Jensen situation
- 0:17and then as you know on Tuesday we have
- 0:19the Nvidia earnings report. So yeah,
- 0:22chill out whenever you can. But but I do
- 0:26also want to make my point that just
- 0:28because all of the attention went to
- 0:30Nvidia this week doesn't mean that the
- 0:32other thousands of names out there,
- 0:34thousands of stocks out there aren't
- 0:36trading anymore. No, they are still out
- 0:39there. There are still plenty of
- 0:40undervalued, underappreciated names in
- 0:43the market. And I do think that because
- 0:45of this situation right now, it might be
- 0:48a good opportunity to have a look at
- 0:51those companies. We know most of these
- 0:54companies, all of these companies
- 0:55actually probably also own all of them.
- 0:58But I do want to make my case yet again
- 1:00as to why especially going to 2027,
- 1:04these are names that are very much at
- 1:06the top of the list. Now, before we
- 1:08start, of course, we have to have a look
- 1:10at the heat map. This is, by the way, a
- 1:12new page here on fiscal.ai. The markets
- 1:14tab where you see the top stories, the
- 1:16top gainers, the top losers. We know
- 1:19who's been a big loser this week.
- 1:21insider trades, politician trades as
- 1:23well. These guys do a lot more trading
- 1:26than serving the people, it seems, but
- 1:29okay. And then we have the heat map here
- 1:31at the top. So, what's going on in
- 1:34today's market at the moment? Well, we
- 1:36do have we do have some decent amount of
- 1:39green here. Google is up, Meta is up,
- 1:41Amazon is up a little bit, Apple, Nvidia
- 1:44is down 1.5%. Now, if we're going to
- 1:46have a look at this segment right here,
- 1:48what we've seen over the last couple of
- 1:49days, right, Nvidia deep in the red, a
- 1:52Broadcom was up, still up over the last
- 1:55couple of days, and AMD is up quite a
- 1:56lot over the last couple of days, right?
- 1:58The the companies that were considered
- 2:00or are still considered the anti- Nvidia
- 2:04trade got a lot of attention over the
- 2:07last couple of days. This stock, I think
- 2:08AMD was in the low 400s and today were
- 2:12$550.
- 2:14So quite a lot of move on the upside
- 2:17over the last couple of days purely
- 2:19because the market right now the
- 2:20perception is okay in a world where
- 2:23Jensen is not leading Nvidia. This means
- 2:26that Nvidia over the next couple of
- 2:28years is going to be a much weaker
- 2:30company which also means that the
- 2:32companies like Broadcom and AMD which
- 2:35are growing which are potentially taking
- 2:37market share are going to have it easier
- 2:403 5 years down the line and that's why
- 2:43we should be rewarding them as of today.
- 2:46Now maybe maybe that's the right way to
- 2:50see this. I still believe that Nvidia is
- 2:53run by not just one person although
- 2:56Jensen is of course or was very
- 2:58important to the company but I do think
- 3:00that the people under him the teams
- 3:02under him are very capable people the
- 3:05road map for the next 3 years is already
- 3:08set I don't think that's going to change
- 3:09much but what about 5 10 years down the
- 3:12line and I still think that the teams
- 3:14inside of Nvidia are still very good
- 3:18very capable to push this company
- 3:20forward. Everyone's been talking about
- 3:22well not everyone but I've seen one well
- 3:25one comment about oh Nvidia is going to
- 3:28be like Intel and then suddenly
- 3:30everybody uses the same stupid example
- 3:32because they can't thinking for
- 3:33themselves. Nvidia is nothing like an
- 3:36Intel of 10 years ago. Nvidia is still
- 3:39innovating pushing the boundaries. Intel
- 3:4210 years ago did absolutely nothing
- 3:44other than paying its executives an
- 3:46insane amount of money, buying back a
- 3:49lot of super expensive, overvalued
- 3:51shares and paying a dividend. That's it.
- 3:54It cannot be compared to Nvidia. And
- 3:56every time I will hear someone say, "Oh,
- 3:59this is like Intel." I will disagree and
- 4:03push back because it is just a BS
- 4:05example. One more thing for those that
- 4:08don't know me. I own a lot more of AMD
- 4:11than I do Nvidia. I own now my position
- 4:14in Broadcom is bigger than Nvidia. I own
- 4:17way more Meta, way more Google than
- 4:20Nvidia. And still, still I managed to
- 4:24think for myself when talking about the
- 4:26situation about Nvidia today. Still, I
- 4:29can make some good cases as to why right
- 4:32now over the last 48 hours, 72 hours,
- 4:36people were freaking out as if their
- 4:39lives were completely destroyed and oh,
- 4:42it's the end of the world. Guys, calm
- 4:44down. Okay, this is investing. You're
- 4:48not married to any stock. And
- 4:50apparently, even if you're married to
- 4:52someone for 40 plus years, it's okay to
- 4:55you know what. Back to the serious
- 4:57stuff. We have not heard the last of
- 5:00Jensen or this Nvidia story. I've made
- 5:03my case over the last couple of days
- 5:05that something here doesn't smell right.
- 5:08The the the pressure, the speed of all
- 5:12of this situation escalating makes
- 5:15absolutely no sense to me. So yes, there
- 5:18is an investigation, but I think there
- 5:21should be an investigation on the
- 5:23investigation as well. Another thing,
- 5:27and that's the last thing we'll discuss
- 5:29about Nvidia for now. This right here is
- 5:32Nvidia's board of directors. Yes, I've
- 5:34put myself on Jensen because everybody
- 5:36knows who's Jensen. Look at how many
- 5:39shares some of these people own. I know
- 5:44personally people that own more shares
- 5:47than this lady right here. 1,799
- 5:51shares here. 2,00 let's call it almost
- 5:54500 shares. Then yes, you have people
- 5:56that own millions millions of shares.
- 5:59This is the board of director of what
- 6:01was the most valuable company on the
- 6:04planet. Now, okay, you might say, "Yeah,
- 6:07but the amount of shares doesn't really
- 6:08matter that." Well, maybe it matters a
- 6:11little bit, but what matters maybe a
- 6:14little bit more is who these people are.
- 6:18We have here former managing director of
- 6:21Sutter Hill Ventures. No idea what that
- 6:23is. Then a Centennial Professor of
- 6:26aeronautics and Mechanical Engineering
- 6:28at California Institute of Technology.
- 6:31Okay. Then we have a former chief
- 6:34marketing officer of the NFL and a
- 6:36former CEO of Pepsi Coca-Cola North
- 6:39America. Why? Why are these people on
- 6:42the boards of directors of Nvidia? I
- 6:45don't know. former president of Taco
- 6:48Bell International. That's the woman
- 6:51with barely any shares. Like if you look
- 6:54at the people on the board here, it it
- 6:58makes no sense. It's a failure on on
- 7:00Jensen's part and and maybe on some
- 7:02other people's part as well that this is
- 7:04this is the board. Why isn't the board
- 7:07filled with people
- 7:09from I mean ex people of course
- 7:11semiconductor industry tech AI robotics
- 7:16you name it you know people that also
- 7:20want to push the boundaries of
- 7:22innovation of technology why is the
- 7:25board here filled with people that in my
- 7:27opinion shouldn't be here I don't know I
- 7:30cannot answer this question right now
- 7:32because it is a huge blunder anyways
- 7:36Moving on here and I highly suggest you
- 7:39to go and have a look at who sits on the
- 7:41board of well Meta is a bit different
- 7:44cuz Mark basically controls everything
- 7:46that happens right there but look at
- 7:48who's on the board there. Go and check
- 7:50who's on the board of a Microsoft of a
- 7:53Alphabet of an Amazon and then compare
- 7:57that to whoever was on the board of
- 7:59Nvidia. Anyways, moving on here quick
- 8:02summary what's happening here. Neocloud
- 8:04space Nebuse down another 13% today. I
- 8:07ran down 9.5 applied digital 9.5 corre
- 8:1011%. So Nebus this week is basically
- 8:14down 13.5% followed by 16% the week
- 8:18before we're basically here at the 100
- 8:21uh moving average on a weekly that is
- 8:24which yes was previously close to the
- 8:26top and let's say if it can stay right
- 8:29here form a base going into Nvidia's
- 8:32earnings report might be might be a good
- 8:35thing me personally I own a position I
- 8:37said it before I'm waiting to make my
- 8:39moves post Nvidia's earnings report and
- 8:42yes if the stock does go up that's also
- 8:45fine by me. Now why are we seeing
- 8:48weakness here in the Neocloud space?
- 8:51Well, first of all, also seeing weakness
- 8:52in the semiconductor space, but in the
- 8:54Neocloud space specifically. That's
- 8:56because of an article that came out and
- 8:58talked about well the fact that Colette,
- 9:00the CFO that's now interim CEO, was not
- 9:03the biggest fan of all of the
- 9:06investments that Jensen wanted to make,
- 9:09whether it's in OpenAI or in the
- 9:11NeoCloud space. Now, I can take one side
- 9:15of the story, I can take the other side
- 9:16of the story. Of course, I am biased
- 9:18because I own shares of Nebus. I have a
- 9:21small position in Cororeef also own
- 9:23Nvidia but okay now CFOs CFO's jobs is
- 9:28to make sure that the company is
- 9:30financially responsible and that the
- 9:33investments that they're making makes
- 9:34sense right so I'm not shocked that she
- 9:38was opposed to huge investments and
- 9:40backstopping what was it $200 billion or
- 9:43something like that for an open AI I'm
- 9:46not shocked by it we've heard Zuck and
- 9:48Alexander Wang talk about the same thing
- 9:51how Susan came to them and said, you
- 9:53know, we're spending quite a lot of
- 9:54money on this project and on the the
- 9:56GPU, so you better make sure it works
- 9:59out otherwise the company is in a deep
- 10:03trouble. This is the job of the CFO.
- 10:06Now, if Jensen and the CFO were clashing
- 10:10quite a lot on these types of things,
- 10:11then okay, that's definitely not the
- 10:14greatest thing, especially right now for
- 10:16the market sentiment wise. I get it.
- 10:20But we just heard about Nebus. We just
- 10:22heard about CO. There are a lot of
- 10:24prepayments happening right now. A lot
- 10:26of these prepayments cover almost all of
- 10:30the costs. And both of these companies
- 10:32have told us that they're not looking to
- 10:34raise an insane amount of money anyways
- 10:36going into 2027.
- 10:39So everything that has happened already,
- 10:42I don't think that's going to change.
- 10:43Yes, moving forward, if you're now
- 10:46deciding to become a Neocloud, you're
- 10:49going to have a very very difficult
- 10:50time, you're not going to have the
- 10:53backing of the Nvidas or the banks or
- 10:55whatever. And if you're looking for
- 10:57money, you're probably going to pay
- 10:58quite a fee for it. That's true. But for
- 11:03the companies right now, a Nebus, a core
- 11:06reef, even an iron, I wouldn't say those
- 11:08are established names. But I do think
- 11:11that they have put themsel in a much
- 11:14better position and whatever they told
- 11:16us during their own earnings call. I
- 11:19don't think that's going to change
- 11:20anytime soon. Just wanted to put it out
- 11:22there because I do know that we have a
- 11:24lot of NeoCloud investors out there and
- 11:26a lot of people are just freaking out
- 11:28and say, "Oh, look at this headline.
- 11:30That means uh Nvidia is going to now
- 11:32make sure that these companies are going
- 11:34to go down." No, why would they? Nebus
- 11:37is a customer of Nvidia. Cor is a
- 11:40customer of Nvidia. It's in their
- 11:43interest that both of these companies
- 11:44become way bigger because then they'll
- 11:47buy even more chips from Nvidia in the
- 11:50future. Of course, this is becomes even
- 11:52better if these companies become
- 11:55profitable, can sustain themselves to
- 11:57not need to have a backstock. Think
- 12:00about it. Moving on and actually maybe
- 12:03moving back to the main topic of this
- 12:06video and that's well the companies that
- 12:08are still trading at a very very
- 12:10attractive valuation. I'll start off of
- 12:13course with company numero uno and
- 12:16that's alphabet now alphabet as of right
- 12:20now yes trailing p very low one time
- 12:22things but forward one 21.1 times we
- 12:26know that alphabet is gaining a lot of
- 12:28traction with regards to GCP and also
- 12:31their TPU business now alphabet yes is
- 12:34going to benefit if if Nvidia does not
- 12:37execute anymore we know that the TPU
- 12:39business is going to become way bigger
- 12:42in 27. We've heard that also from Amazon
- 12:44for their own tranium chips. We more
- 12:47recently had actually an announcement of
- 12:48TPUs including AMD chips as well. And so
- 12:52yes, I do think that the TPU business is
- 12:54going to become much much bigger. Google
- 12:57Cloud is going to continue to grow and
- 13:00become more profitable in the future.
- 13:02While this company is yes, very cheap
- 13:05because yes, it is still spending a lot
- 13:08of money. It is spending a lot of money
- 13:10because it is still growing. It is still
- 13:13growing the biggest well what might be
- 13:16maybe their biggest business a year or
- 13:18so from today. Google Cloud, right?
- 13:21Google Cloud continues to grow and
- 13:23accelerate. And so why shouldn't they
- 13:25invest? They they said it other
- 13:27companies have said it as well. As long
- 13:29as the return on invested capital is
- 13:31higher than the cost of capital, why
- 13:33wouldn't they do this? It's just so
- 13:36simple. And yet Google back under or
- 13:40close to $300 per share, right? Year to
- 13:42date, it's down 7.5%. Over the past
- 13:45three months is down 15.2%. In my
- 13:48opinion, this company again gets
- 13:50overlooked. And what happens a year from
- 13:52now when suddenly they are getting quite
- 13:55close to generating free cash flow.
- 13:58Maybe it happens sooner. Who knows? But
- 14:00what we do know is that the capex growth
- 14:03cycle is slowing down. Right? The rate
- 14:06of growth that we've seen for capex each
- 14:09and every year is definitely slowing
- 14:10down. Doesn't mean that the number
- 14:12doesn't get bigger, but that's slowing
- 14:14down. Then what happens? Well, the
- 14:16business, the actual core business,
- 14:18which is still very profitable, that
- 14:21continues to grow and grow and grow and
- 14:23then suddenly you're going to have that
- 14:24inflection point where they can invest a
- 14:26lot and they're generating a lot of free
- 14:29cash flow and then Yeah. And then maybe
- 14:31it might be too late. The same can be
- 14:33said of course with a meta. Meta had
- 14:36probably a better earnings report than a
- 14:40lot of the companies that we've covered,
- 14:42right? The advertising business
- 14:43definitely had a better quarter than the
- 14:45other advertisers out there. It doesn't
- 14:49have a Google Cloud business and AWS or
- 14:52an Azure, but the core business of Meta
- 14:55is still very very profitable, is still
- 14:58growing quite quickly. But this is also
- 15:00a company that yes is investing quite a
- 15:02lot. It's not generating free cash flow
- 15:04anymore.
- 15:05But this is a very profitable company to
- 15:07its core. Muses momentum is still
- 15:10continuing and I do think that it's
- 15:13going to become bigger and bigger.
- 15:14Right? Look at this. This is a company
- 15:16at this size that is still expected to
- 15:19grow one close to 28% this fiscal year,
- 15:22then 21.7% next fiscal year, then
- 15:24another 19.2%
- 15:26in fiscal 28. By then, of course, they
- 15:28will be generating free cash flow again.
- 15:30And I do think that we could see growth
- 15:32be a bit higher than this. And yet the
- 15:36stock right now is trading at well 21.5
- 15:39times trading earnings, 19.1 times
- 15:41forward earnings. This name does not get
- 15:43the respect it deserves. Before moving
- 15:46on to the next one, I know controversial
- 15:48to put Nvidia back here in the video,
- 15:51but Nvidia is trading at 13.2 times
- 15:53forward earnings, 14.6 times forward
- 15:57price to free cash flow. This is a
- 16:00company that by the way as of right now
- 16:02I don't think much has changed but as of
- 16:04right now is expected to grow revenue
- 16:06for fiscal 27 by 90.8% then 68% the
- 16:10fiscal year after that. It's probably
- 16:12going to be much higher than this and
- 16:13then another 30.8%
- 16:16in fiscal 29 to generate just over 900
- 16:18billion in revenue. Uh by then they are
- 16:21expected to generate close to half a
- 16:23trillion dollars in free cash flow. So
- 16:26just wanted to put this out there. Of
- 16:28course, all of this and much more is
- 16:30available on fiscal.ai. There's a link
- 16:33down in the description and in the pin
- 16:34comment. If you want to use it, you'll
- 16:36get 15% off and new users will get
- 16:38Fiscal Pro for free for the first two
- 16:41weeks. Then I need to talk about a
- 16:43company that I've owned for a while.
- 16:46I've been a net seller this year of
- 16:49Micron up until last week when the stock
- 16:52was a little bit lower than where we're
- 16:54at right now. And that's of course
- 16:56Micron. Now with Micron, I've said it
- 16:59before and I'll say it again. I don't
- 17:01think Micron for me right now is going
- 17:02to be a company where you know what,
- 17:04I'll own it for 5 10 years. No, me
- 17:07personally with my average, which is way
- 17:09lower than where we're at right now. I
- 17:12didn't mind adding in the low 700s. Why?
- 17:15Because the margin of safety here is
- 17:19quite good. The riskreward is quite
- 17:21good, right? A forward P of 4.3 times.
- 17:23Now I know cycles schmeichels let's go
- 17:26with this argument that yes there might
- 17:28be a top on the cycle happening let's
- 17:31say in the next two years okay but in
- 17:34the next two years in the next two years
- 17:37do we think that micron is not going to
- 17:39become extremely profitable and grow
- 17:41revenues like never before I mean look
- 17:44at the comparisons right if you want to
- 17:46compare it to what has happened before
- 17:48you can't even notice that before there
- 17:50was a cycle that's how much revenue the
- 17:52company's generating ing today already.
- 17:55And if we expand that and we look fiscal
- 17:5727, 28, 29, look at how much revenue
- 18:00this company is expected to generate.
- 18:02Now yes, look 28,29, not much growth at
- 18:06all, right? Okay, fair enough.
- 18:10But these are still years that dwarf
- 18:14anything that this company has done
- 18:16combined over the last 10 years. If I'm
- 18:19looking at free cash flow, same story,
- 18:21right? If I pull it back all the way
- 18:23here to 2012, I mean even right now we
- 18:26are already generating more free cash
- 18:28flow than ever before combined. So
- 18:30what's the point to even compare, right?
- 18:33Okay, even if this is a cycle, do you
- 18:36know what this company can do with this
- 18:38amount of free cash flow? Even in a down
- 18:40cycle, they can still return an insane
- 18:42amount of value to shareholders. And so
- 18:45yes, to me, in the short run, in the
- 18:47short run, this could go back to $1,000
- 18:50per share. Who knows? Maybe go even back
- 18:53to all-time highs. It's definitely a
- 18:55possibility. I don't need this to go to
- 18:583,000 to $5,000 per share. May probably
- 19:02by then they'll do a a stock split. But
- 19:04a micron at these prices, these growth
- 19:07rates, all of the comments that we're
- 19:09hearing about HBM and the partnerships
- 19:12and the long-term agreements that
- 19:14they're signing, well, it doesn't seem
- 19:18like this is a cycle that will peak
- 19:20anytime soon. It also seems like the
- 19:24down cycle is going to be way less
- 19:26extreme than previously because of HBM
- 19:30and because of the one-year cadence of
- 19:33new GPUs coming out. Last but not least,
- 19:38this is cash from operating activities.
- 19:40I've also added here Broadcom because I
- 19:42also think that Broadcom is still fairly
- 19:44cheap and the growth rates are very
- 19:47incredible right now and they could also
- 19:49potentially benefit from Nvidia's
- 19:52downfall further down the line if if
- 19:55that were to happen. But let's look at
- 19:572026
- 19:59cash from operating activities for all
- 20:01of these companies. The number is still
- 20:03of course very much positive. We go from
- 20:06$558
- 20:08billion to then $916.4
- 20:11billion in fiscal 27 to $1.27
- 20:15trillion in cash from operating
- 20:17activities in fiscal 28. That's $350.6
- 20:22billion from Google, $216.4
- 20:25billion from Meta, $335.5
- 20:28billion from Nvidia, $137.6
- 20:31billion from Broadcom, and $232.4 $4
- 20:35billion from Micron. Yes, Nvidia is
- 20:38getting all of the attention right now.
- 20:40Yes, all of the headlines are there to
- 20:42create a lot of panic, a lot of chaos,
- 20:44but it's in times like this that
- 20:47long-term investors have to look at what
- 20:49hasn't changed. What hasn't changed is
- 20:51these good companies are still good
- 20:53companies. What hasn't changed is that
- 20:56whatever they told us in the earnings
- 20:57call and report a couple of days, maybe
- 20:59a couple of weeks ago hasn't really
- 21:01changed either or or at all. These are
- 21:05companies that are very well-run,
- 21:07extremely profitable and still growing
- 21:10and will be growing for the foreseeable
- 21:12future. There are opportunities in this
- 21:15market. Of course, that doesn't mean
- 21:16that oh, we have to buy every single
- 21:18dip. Oh, myself included, I don't mind
- 21:21waiting post Nvidia's earnings report in
- 21:24order to see what I will be doing,
- 21:27right? They're probably going to share
- 21:28some interesting uh notes and
- 21:31information out there. If they suddenly
- 21:33come out with now at least 80% revenue
- 21:36growth for their guidance for next year.
- 21:38Previously, that was at least 70%. I
- 21:41think that could bring a lot of
- 21:43confidence back into the name, into the
- 21:46market. Maybe they'll talk about their
- 21:48investments right in Neocloud, in AI
- 21:50labs as well. I don't mind waiting to
- 21:54see what happens with the market. The
- 21:56market definitely needs to chill out a
- 21:59little bit, right? This volatility, I
- 22:01know, is maybe not that great,
- 22:03especially not when you go down, but we
- 22:06need the market to chill out a bit. We
- 22:08need the VIX to come back down and then
- 22:10you make well educated decisions. That's
- 22:14it. great companies. Don't have to go
- 22:16look at some little names here and
- 22:18there. Although I could have definitely
- 22:20put in a SoFi, a new holdings or things
- 22:23like that in this video, but but maybe
- 22:25that's going to be for another episode.
- 22:29That's all I've got for you in today's
- 22:30video. I hope you all have a wonderful,
- 22:32relaxed weekend ahead. See you all in
- 22:34the next one. Bye-bye.
- 22:37[music]
- 22:40Hey,
- 22:43[music]
- 22:52[music]
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