Nolan Wells Grand Jury: What Really Happened? — Transcript
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- 0:00Let me introduce my guest to you guys
- 0:01right quick. At the top of the screen to
- 0:04the right there is the great, the
- 0:06honorable Dave Anderson, the business
- 0:09bully. You dig what I'm saying? And
- 0:10then, you know, at the bottom, y'all
- 0:12know my man right here, Elliot Connie,
- 0:14the the premier psychotherapist in the
- 0:16nation. You dig what I'm saying? The
- 0:18grand jury has spoken. Let me start off
- 0:21with you, Dave, since you've been
- 0:23holding the longest. You know, what are
- 0:24your thoughts just right off the bat
- 0:25when you got the news? What came to your
- 0:28mind? I'm not going to lie to you,
- 0:29Willie. Um, for a long time, I thought
- 0:32this was a whole lot of I don't know.
- 0:34And then when I saw the press
- 0:35conference, as a person that does like
- 0:37PR and crisis management for a living, I
- 0:39know when I can't prove it cuz I I've
- 0:42never been to this DA's office. I don't
- 0:44know her team, but I do know what a
- 0:46well-crafted PR message looks like. And
- 0:48when you're sitting there and you start
- 0:50talking the way that she was talking,
- 0:52everything was very calculated.
- 0:54Everything was very this is this, that
- 0:56is that. her body was set up in such a
- 0:58way where she was trying to stay as
- 1:00stoic and as factual as humanly
- 1:03possible. No elevation in her tone, none
- 1:05of that. And then it's well, you know,
- 1:08um people are out here saying all of
- 1:10these things and and and and rumors
- 1:13aren't evidence and blah blah blah
- 1:15skippy bop bop bop. This is why it
- 1:17stinks to me so quick.
- 1:20>> Like literally, what was it? 48 hours
- 1:22after his body turned up, they was like,
- 1:24"Yeah, drowning. It's it's just any
- 1:26other time it's let's wait for all the
- 1:27evidence to come out. They was like
- 1:29boom, close the case. Med examiner went
- 1:31home. I got a lot of issues with the way
- 1:33the case was handled. Having said that,
- 1:36I also have issues with what Attorney
- 1:38Crump has done. Respectfully, and here's
- 1:39what I mean. I'm not taking anything
- 1:41away from the things the man has
- 1:43accomplished. I'm not going to argue
- 1:44with somebody who has an estimated half
- 1:46a billion dollars in net worth. I'm not
- 1:48going to do it. However, when it comes
- 1:51to the outrage and the outcry and saying
- 1:53that, you know, if we've got people in
- 1:55power, those people need to move. There
- 1:57was a lot of opportunities because there
- 2:00was a press conference right after it
- 2:02happened. There was several press
- 2:04meetings. There were several going on
- 2:06Don Lemon and Joy Reed and all of those
- 2:08things, but I never once heard a
- 2:10concerted effort to get the public to
- 2:12galvanize and put pressure on the DOJ,
- 2:16on the FBI, on the governor's mansion,
- 2:19on all of the people that had the power
- 2:21to really push this thing forward. I did
- 2:24see a whole lot of call and response. We
- 2:26going to ring the justice bells, so on
- 2:28and so forth. But if we're going to ring
- 2:29justice bells, we got to start by
- 2:31getting the political power in order.
- 2:33And nothing makes people more nervous
- 2:35than loss of revenue, loss of blood, and
- 2:38loss of opportunity. And they completely
- 2:41to me missed the mark on that. Now we're
- 2:44playing we're playing catchup because
- 2:46they put all of these little barriers in
- 2:48place, you know, oh, we're not going to
- 2:50release this, we're not going to release
- 2:51that. My whole thing is at that point
- 2:53there should have been a national outcry
- 2:55on all of those shows to say, "Yo, call
- 2:57this person's number, this, that, and
- 2:59the third because white people have done
- 3:01it because a dog got killed in a fight."
- 3:04>> We've got to start playing this game as
- 3:06strategically without all of the
- 3:09emotions involved. Even though this is
- 3:10an emotionally fragile situation, I lost
- 3:12my brother, so I understand how it
- 3:14feels, you know, to lose a very close
- 3:16immediate family member. I get that and
- 3:18I'm not immune to that. I'm saying we
- 3:20got to start playing this game
- 3:21financially and politically from day one
- 3:24and then guide our people to mobilize in
- 3:27a way that does more than we shall
- 3:29overcome. We ain't going to let nobody
- 3:30turn me around and we going to ring the
- 3:31justice bells for no one else. If you
- 3:33want justice for Nolan Wells, make the
- 3:34people who are duly elected
- 3:36representatives of people accountable
- 3:38for not being transparent. There should
- 3:40have been an independent special counsel
- 3:43body immediately. And there's no reason
- 3:45why that that that should not have
- 3:46happened. the Congressional Black Caucus
- 3:48issuing a statement is cool, but did we
- 3:50move the needle?
- 3:50>> What happens if he does that? He goes
- 3:52all the way out like that and it
- 3:54backfires. What does a backfire look
- 3:56like to you? And do you think it's worth
- 3:58it?
- 3:58>> So, my whole thing is at this point it's
- 4:00already backfired. If we're going to
- 4:01make all of this state and we're going
- 4:02to have all of this, all of these press
- 4:04conferences. I mean, to the point where
- 4:06Ben Trump was so tired, he was falling
- 4:07asleep. He was exhausted. It needs to
- 4:10have something because at that point you
- 4:12can literally say, "Ladies and
- 4:14gentlemen, I know this is about to be a
- 4:152-hour press conference, but
- 4:16respectfully, these are all the things
- 4:18we've done. These are all the people
- 4:20we've reached out to. This is exactly
- 4:22what they said. Here's an here's the
- 4:24evidence of the response. We couldn't do
- 4:26this because we didn't want to take the
- 4:27grand jury, but here's what we did.
- 4:30Here's what it looked like. Here's why
- 4:32they didn't respond. Now, we're in a
- 4:34midterm election. These are the people
- 4:36that we talked to and they did not do
- 4:38anything. So, you need to do what you
- 4:40need to do come November. You're already
- 4:43pissing them off because of the
- 4:45attention Al Sharpton bought to the
- 4:47situation. You got Colin Kaepernick in
- 4:49the situation. You got Tyler Perry in
- 4:50the situation. You got Jamal Bryan in
- 4:52the situation. They were already pissed
- 4:54off. So, last I checked, if you pissed,
- 4:56you pissed. So, if we going to be
- 4:57pissed, let's take it all the way.
- 4:59Period. Point blank. And I guarantee you
- 5:01that most of those members of that grand
- 5:03jury was more was more aligned with the
- 5:06clan jury than a grand jury.
- 5:08>> Certainly. However, like I said, loss of
- 5:10revenue, loss of blood, loss of
- 5:13position. It goes across the board
- 5:15because you also have to look like who
- 5:16is buying these politicians? Uncle
- 5:18Claude told y'all this 40 years ago and
- 5:20y'all ain't listening. America is for
- 5:21sale. We need to buy politicians. Black
- 5:24people are the only people in America
- 5:25who do not have representation on both
- 5:27sides of the aisle. Go ahead, name me
- 5:29five lobbies.
- 5:30>> And why why is that?
- 5:32>> It is like that because we get caught up
- 5:34in emotion and tradition and marching
- 5:37and singing and a preacher saying a good
- 5:40word and call and response, but we don't
- 5:42handle the business of the situation.
- 5:45And that's why we lose.
- 5:47>> Too much singing and not enough
- 5:49swinging.
- 5:49>> Period. Point blank. I'm I'm telling
- 5:51Willy D. Tuch singing and not enough
- 5:52swinging. I never thought I'd see the
- 5:53day. Hell is froze over. Let me tell you
- 5:55something. I can't agree with my man
- 5:58more than what he already said. They're
- 5:59going to leave it undetermined because
- 6:01again, time passing and the way that
- 6:04this whole thing was handled from the
- 6:06body to the examination, so on and so
- 6:08forth, it absolutely sucks. We all know
- 6:10what happens in the South. We've all
- 6:12lived in the South. You know what I'm
- 6:13saying? Like, this is not new. My whole
- 6:15thing is and and I try to tell this to
- 6:17people all the time, even in business.
- 6:18People say, "Well, how can I trust him?
- 6:20How can I trust and how can I trust?"
- 6:21And I'm noting what you're saying, bro.
- 6:23I'm making a bigger point. I don't need
- 6:24to trust you. It's your job. If you are
- 6:27being derelch in your duty, then guess
- 6:30what? We can start making things happen.
- 6:32Because it's funny to me how it is that
- 6:34the Tea Party ain't got no problem
- 6:36organizing. We ain't got no problem with
- 6:38MAGA organizing. We ain't got no problem
- 6:39with all these other folks organizing
- 6:41and putting pressure on folks, not just
- 6:43from a voter standpoint, but also from a
- 6:47financial and public outrage point. The
- 6:50entire world, say what you want, and I
- 6:52don't know where everybody lands on
- 6:54George Floyd, but the entire world was
- 6:56outraged. Target was being torn out. At
- 7:00what point did we get that type of
- 7:02outrage in order to demand something? In
- 7:05order to make sure that this situation
- 7:07does not go to hell because guess what?
- 7:10They burn down our stuff for a whole lot
- 7:12less. Why is it that everybody is such a
- 7:14gangster when it comes to us, but we not
- 7:17gangster when it comes to them? I have
- 7:19literally on the internet this past week
- 7:21doing my morning show seen white folks
- 7:23that couldn't bust a grape in a fruit
- 7:25fight walk through the most dangerous
- 7:27neighborhoods in Philadelphia, Chicago,
- 7:29Atlanta, NO PROBLEM. WHERE THE GANGSTERS
- 7:31THEN? WHY is it everybody is gangster
- 7:33online? But George Zimmerman still
- 7:35breathing. All I'm saying is we have to
- 7:37deploy on every single level other than
- 7:40thumb thugy thoughts and prayers and
- 7:43well, you know, they white and they
- 7:44race. Yeah, I know that. However, last I
- 7:47checked, Ben Crump was a civil attorney.
- 7:49He need to sue everybody to the stone
- 7:50age up to and including, wait for it,
- 7:52ladies and gentlemen, the federal
- 7:54government if they do not act. I don't
- 7:56trust no damn body but God. What I also
- 7:59trust is I expect a snake to be a snake.
- 8:01I also trust that pressure bust pipes
- 8:04and everybody got a plan until they get
- 8:06punched in the mouth. At what point do
- 8:08we start getting out of this? Well, you
- 8:11know, it's hopeless cuz it's the South
- 8:13and that's just what they damned at. Let
- 8:15them feel the pain that that family is
- 8:18feeling. Let them feel the loss of what
- 8:20it means when we pull out our
- 8:21businesses. When is the last time all
- 8:23these damn mega churches say, "Oh, okay.
- 8:25This person is being backed by this
- 8:28lobby and this lobby is representative
- 8:30of this particular corporation or this
- 8:32particular company." Well, we're not
- 8:34buying them. The same way we was quick
- 8:35to to could get over target about DEI,
- 8:38which affected more white women than
- 8:39black people, is the same way we need to
- 8:41start mobilizing. We don't do that. We
- 8:44fake moves. We don't make moves. And
- 8:47that's why they don't take us seriously
- 8:48because we throw our hands up before we
- 8:50throw a punch. And I'm not talking about
- 8:52a physical one cuz I'm not the boxer on
- 8:54this day. I'm talking about a one that
- 8:57hurts their pockets, hurts their bottom
- 8:59line, and hurts their position. We don't
- 9:01do that. But we got time for 5 million
- 9:04press conferences and not enough time to
- 9:06get them real justice because justice
- 9:08happens on a whole lot of levels. And
- 9:09Willie, you know what I'm saying without
- 9:11saying it. Willie, come on, man. We know
- 9:13people right now. If you give them five
- 9:14thou wow, you getting answers like like
- 9:17it's an episode of Matlock. Like we got
- 9:19to stop acting like this is the hardest
- 9:20thing in the world. Somebody knows
- 9:22something and somebody know how to get
- 9:23information out the right people. Like
- 9:25I'm I'm all here for for organization. I
- 9:27am definitely here to, you know, be here
- 9:30to raise money, but sometimes we need to
- 9:32raise a little bit more help,
- 9:33>> right?
- 9:34>> Yeah. And I think it all go together.
- 9:36>> Yeah. I think you need all of it. And
- 9:38that's the thing. We only, you know, you
- 9:39know what I'm saying? Like even the
- 9:40Panthers had people who were just
- 9:42educators who were not out there, you
- 9:44know, with those things. They had people
- 9:46and a lot of the stuff that the Panthers
- 9:48put forth from, you know, after school
- 9:49programs, things of that nature was
- 9:51created and then co-opted by the You
- 9:54already know. So that's my point. You
- 9:56need everybody playing on every single
- 9:58level. And I think the first thing we
- 10:00do, what does what does any good
- 10:01military force do? They deploy the
- 10:03infantry. We already know where the
- 10:04infantry is. We already know what the
- 10:06infantry is capable of. We just got to
- 10:08weaponize them and organize them in a
- 10:09way that we start getting some on the
- 10:11ground grassroots answer that do not
- 10:13involve these boole shifts that
- 10:15absolutely involves the people who can
- 10:17go and and shake some trees not sitting
- 10:19up there so they say they want to be
- 10:21there and why is it that there are more
- 10:23people on that stage than there are when
- 10:26a rapper accepts a Grammy
- 10:27>> like we don't need all the theatrics. I
- 10:30am tired of the performance. I want to
- 10:33see some results because what's y'all
- 10:35standing up there just to stand up? Mhm.
- 10:37That's right. Mhm.
- 10:39For what? We still don't have no
- 10:41answers. And now they're like, "Oh,
- 10:42yeah." And then she gave y'all a canned
- 10:45manufactured via satellite taped social
- 10:49media media narrative cuz she ain't want
- 10:52nobody asking no questions. What do we
- 10:54do? We have a press conference where we
- 10:56don't have any answers, but we got
- 10:58people saying on behalf of this
- 10:59particular organization, not asking a
- 11:01question at the press conference, but
- 11:03grandstanding. You know what I'm saying?
- 11:05Like we got to start realizing that we
- 11:08have to put belt to ass. We also have to
- 11:11start tapping them pockets and we also
- 11:14have to start putting political
- 11:15pressure. I don't like the coons on the
- 11:18right. I don't like the coons on the
- 11:20left. But everybody else, including the
- 11:22Rainbow Alphabet Mafia, got people on
- 11:24both sides of the aisle. It's called
- 11:26hedging your bet. We've got to start
- 11:30playing this game in a new strategy
- 11:31because Willie and you know this big bro
- 11:33and I don't mean no disrespect when I
- 11:34say that. You're a little bit older than
- 11:35I am. For your entire lifetime and all
- 11:38of my lifetime we have been voting one
- 11:41particular way. We've been doing things
- 11:42one particular way and we keep coming
- 11:44back here. What happened with Sandra
- 11:46Bland? How is it that Tamir Rice's mom
- 11:49is still crying and upset? How is it
- 11:52that these things continue to happen? We
- 11:54got time to put Trayvon Martin's parents
- 11:56in a Chadwick Bose movie. RIP to him,
- 11:59but we still don't have time to get
- 12:00actual justice where there is a healthy
- 12:02fear. See, the best thing that my
- 12:04grandfather with a sixth grade education
- 12:06say is an ounce of prevention is worth a
- 12:08pound of cure. YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO AND
- 12:10WHERE NOT TO GO in Houston at one
- 12:11particular time. Galleria area you GOOD
- 12:15GOING OUT GOING OUT to never mind. You
- 12:17know what I'm saying? And that's what
- 12:19I'm saying. There's a line you don't
- 12:21cross because you already know in
- 12:23Philly. There's certain areas you don't
- 12:24go unless you've already, you know, made
- 12:27a certain level of of cooperation, but
- 12:29everybody walking around just fine. Not
- 12:31that you need to, you know, not that you
- 12:33need to threaten somebody, but there has
- 12:35to be boundaries. We love boundaries. We
- 12:37love all of this uh all all these
- 12:39talking points where we start saying,
- 12:41"Oh, well, we need this and my triggers
- 12:43and my what's up with some boundaries."
- 12:45When we start drawing boundaries and
- 12:46they cross them boundaries, there's
- 12:48consequences and repercussions, not
- 12:50press conferences and old negro
- 12:53spirituals. Here's what I'm saying.
- 12:55Respect, I'm going to let you rock. But
- 12:56real quick, where is the writer spirit?
- 12:59We've gotten so comfortable with this
- 13:01that we've gotten ourselves to a point
- 13:03where we're afraid to lose our lives for
- 13:06a bigger purpose. Two generations ago,
- 13:08we was READY TO DIE. NOW, THE ONLY time
- 13:10we ready to die is over a drug deal. I'm
- 13:13trying to understand at what point do we
- 13:15stop saying, "Oh, well, it's hopeless
- 13:16and nothing's going to happen, so we're
- 13:18just not going to do." No,
- 13:19>> stop right there before you go, brother.
- 13:21Let's let me get some Let me get some
- 13:24micro comments from you so I can uh feed
- 13:26it to uh Elliot because he since he
- 13:29can't hear.
- 13:29>> How come we can't How come we can't pray
- 13:31and fight? Why is it that for two two
- 13:33generations beforehand, Gen X and
- 13:36Boomers had no problem being willing to
- 13:39die for what mattered? Why is it all of
- 13:41a sudden? Well, it's not going to do
- 13:42anything.
- 13:43>> What did he say?
- 13:43>> He said he didn't call for violence.
- 13:45>> Yeah, but for the most effective way to
- 13:48to affect change in our community is
- 13:52financial. If we circle the wagon as
- 13:55black people and said, "We don't trust
- 13:57y'all. We don't like y'all. We We are
- 14:00aware that y'all don't like us. We're
- 14:01going to keep our money in our
- 14:03community. We're going to support
- 14:04blackowned businesses and we're no
- 14:06longer going to spend our dollars on
- 14:07companies that continue to oppress us."
- 14:09change would happen very quickly.
- 14:11>> Again, loss of revenue, loss of blood.
- 14:12I'm here for that. My only problem is
- 14:14why do we have to keep saying it. I'll
- 14:17give you some examples, Willie. You know
- 14:18as well as I do. There's a Chinatown in
- 14:20Houston. There's a Chinatown in Philly.
- 14:21There's a Chinatown in Atlanta.
- 14:22Everywhere you go, there's a Chinatown.
- 14:24And nobody needs to tell the Chinese
- 14:25people they need to spend money with
- 14:26themselves because they understand to do
- 14:28otherwise is economic suicide. Same for
- 14:30the Italians, same for the Jamaicans,
- 14:32same for the Jews. It's the same for
- 14:34everybody else. But we have become so
- 14:36enamored and so cuped that we're afraid
- 14:40to not spend money there. A lot of what
- 14:43happened in desegregation was to not
- 14:46only be able to sit at lunch counters,
- 14:48but to be able to spend our money. You
- 14:50can look it up historically. How many
- 14:51black owned hotel chains can you name
- 14:53right now, Willie, that you've seen in
- 14:54your lifetime?
- 14:57>> What about hospitals?
- 14:59What about uh what about police forces,
- 15:02militias,
- 15:03shoe companies and manufacturers?
- 15:07>> Militias, a few few a few militias
- 15:09>> that weren't co-opted or their leader
- 15:11wasn't tossed in jail because of some
- 15:13nonsense he was doing before he became
- 15:14leader of that militia. Thank you. We
- 15:16know how to do it. We don't because we
- 15:18keep letting gladhanding yesmen tap
- 15:20dance and say, "Oh, well, you know,
- 15:22that's well, you know, we can't." It's
- 15:23like being in school. You remember when
- 15:24you was in school, you had a substitute
- 15:26teacher. You already knew it was party
- 15:27time. And it's that one kid who goes,
- 15:29"Hey, Mrs. McGillic, honey, you forgot
- 15:31to give us homework." Everybody look at
- 15:33him, but and they know they couldn't
- 15:35smack him because they would get
- 15:36suspended.
- 15:40>> That's it. It's too much explaining.
- 15:42People are scared. Two-part question.
- 15:44Part one, how long did it take our
- 15:46former vice president to get the Stop
- 15:48Asian Hate Bill passed in the law? What?
- 15:50What? Where? Where is the George Floyd
- 15:52Justice Act? Oh, it it's the new
- 15:54schoolhouse rock. is still sitting on
- 15:56Capitol Hill, right? So, representation
- 15:58or symbolism ain't the problem. The
- 16:01problem is everybody else cuts the
- 16:03check. Last I checked, there's not just
- 16:04one race that is, how do I put this
- 16:06gently in this day and age? Uh, rainbow
- 16:09associated yet. And still, the former
- 16:11president made sure after saying, uh,
- 16:14marriage between a man and a woman. Uh,
- 16:16but now you got his former vice
- 16:19president had titties ON THE WHITE HOUSE
- 16:21LAWN. EVEN BRUCE, I'm sorry, Caitlyn
- 16:23Jenner understands the importance of
- 16:25cutting the check. We don't cut the
- 16:27check, but we so busy telling everybody
- 16:29register to vote. It has to be
- 16:30everything. It's not either or. Willie,
- 16:33you know why don't nobody mess with you.
- 16:35Respectfully,
- 16:36>> I back.
- 16:37>> I'm sorry. What now?
- 16:38>> Cuz I bust back
- 16:40>> right now. I done been around and you
- 16:42know how I feel about your your your rap
- 16:44history. You also know I know. You
- 16:47understand what I'm saying? There are
- 16:48people who ain't never seen some of the
- 16:49things you did in some of the jaws you
- 16:51rock respectfully. But they heard tell
- 16:53which is why you can walk the way you
- 16:55walk. When we met, did you have security
- 16:56with you?
- 16:57>> Yeah.
- 16:58>> Yes, you did. This one and that one.
- 17:01>> And their reputation precedes you.
- 17:03That's what I'm saying. You mean to tell
- 17:05me as tough as you are? THERE'S THREE
- 17:08BALD BLACK MEN ON this dag on deis right
- 17:10now. You mean to tell me that they're
- 17:12more afraid of the sissies than they are
- 17:14masculine black men? Come on, man.
- 17:17Ask yourself why and get back to me.
- 17:18Even Jefferson said, "If you got a
- 17:20tyrannical government, you best to be
- 17:22prepared to take them out." We We It's
- 17:24America, right? Am I Am I misquing
- 17:25Jefferson? Did I make that up? Oh, we
- 17:27not willing to do that. But then we'll
- 17:29talk about it. Insurrection. When the
- 17:31last time we going to have insurrection?
- 17:32How many of us got to die? Cuz every few
- 17:35months, it's the same thing. When are we
- 17:37going to stop with this and start
- 17:39letting them know it's it's over for
- 17:41them? There used to be a time when
- 17:42people saw Suge Knight and just went the
- 17:44other way. That's all I'm saying. There
- 17:46used to be a time when you would respect
- 17:48a OG. You don't go into certain
- 17:49neighborhoods without POLITIC AND YOU
- 17:51ALREADY KNOW WHAT time it is. But when I
- 17:53go to lobby in DC, I look to my left, I
- 17:55look to my right, and I don't see black
- 17:57faces, just me. When it comes to
- 18:00justice, this would not happen if we
- 18:02demanded in densely populated black
- 18:04neighborhoods. And it's not hard to go
- 18:05to city hall or your municipality and
- 18:07say, "We do not want any officers that
- 18:09are not within a 2 to 5 mile radius of
- 18:12residents in the area they patrol." You
- 18:14want to know why? Cuz if I know where
- 18:16you live, I know where you live. But you
- 18:18know, I'm just some negro on here. I
- 18:20don't own no businesses. I ain't never
- 18:21built nothing. I didn't write 23 books.
- 18:23I don't have five degrees. I'm just some
- 18:25negro out here talking with a with a
- 18:26Killilmonger chain on. That's okay.
- 18:28You're right. You got it. I'm going just
- 18:30Thank you.
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