"NO KEY. NO GATE!" William LOCKS Camilla Out Of Frogmore Gardens... The Gardener Knew Why — Transcript
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- 0:04And particularly being Windsor, for me,
- 0:05Windsor is her, so she loved it here.
- 0:07She's spent most of her time here.
- 0:08Showing you around today is very much a
- 0:10case I'm trying [music] to make sure I'm
- 0:11doing it the way she'd want you to see.
- 0:13>> So, at 7 minutes to 8 on a gray weekday
- 0:15morning, a padlock clicked shut on the
- 0:18inside of a gate in Windsor Home Park.
- 0:20The man who closed it was a gardener. He
- 0:23had worked in the gardens at Frogmore
- 0:24for more than 30 years. He was wearing a
- 0:27waxed jacket with mud on the cuffs, and
- 0:30he had a phone in his pocket that he had
- 0:32been told to keep switched on.
- 0:34He tested the lock once, pulled, it
- 0:37held. He checked his watch because he
- 0:39had been asked to remember the time.
- 0:42Then he checked it again because he did
- 0:44not trust himself that morning.
- 0:46A pair of crows were arguing in the
- 0:48cedar behind him. Mist was still lying
- 0:50on the lake.
- 0:52Somewhere over towards the castle, a
- 0:54bell was ringing for the start of the
- 0:55working day.
- 0:57Then he walked back up the gravel path
- 0:59towards the lake, and he did not look
- 1:01round.
- 1:0222 minutes later, a line of three cars
- 1:05came along the estate road and stopped
- 1:07at that gate.
- 1:08A photographer got out of the second car
- 1:10with a camera bag over each shoulder.
- 1:12A stylist got out with a rail of coats.
- 1:15Two women from Camilla's private office
- 1:17got out of the first car, already on
- 1:19their phones, [music] and the gate did
- 1:21not open.
- 1:22One of the women rattled it.
- 1:24Then she looked through the bars, up the
- 1:26path, and saw the gardener, a long way
- 1:29off, kneeling by a flower bed with his
- 1:31back to them. [music] She called out. He
- 1:34did not turn round. She called again,
- 1:36and this time she used his title, the
- 1:39one on the estate list. Still [music]
- 1:40nothing. The photographer, standing
- 1:43behind her with his bags, looked at his
- 1:45watch and then at the [music] sky. The
- 1:47light by the lake, the light the whole
- 1:50morning had been planned around, was
- 1:52already starting to change.
- 1:54That is how the morning began.
- 1:56By lunchtime, the story of the locked
- 1:58gate at Frogmore had from Windsor to
- 2:00Clarence House to Kensington Palace and
- 2:02back again.
- 2:04And at the center of it was one question
- 2:06that everyone wanted answered. Who told
- 2:08the gardener to lock it? Because a man
- 2:10who has spent 30 years on his knees in
- 2:12those flower beds does not turn his back
- 2:15on the king's wife's office by accident.
- 2:17[music] He does not buy his own padlock
- 2:19by accident.
- 2:20And he does not keep his phone switched
- 2:22on waiting unless somebody has told him
- 2:24that it might ring. [music] The answer
- 2:26was William.
- 2:28But the reason he did it and the reason
- 2:30the gardener did it without asking a
- 2:31single question goes back much further
- 2:34than that morning.
- 2:35It goes back to the late Queen and to
- 2:37something she told that gardener on a
- 2:39bench beside the lake years ago. Hold on
- 2:42a moment because the people who keep a
- 2:44place running are almost never the ones
- 2:46who get thanked and that gardener
- 2:48deserves better.
- 2:50Name the person who quietly looked after
- 2:52something you love. Press like if he
- 2:54deserves a hearing. Send this to whoever
- 2:56notices the work behind the scenes and
- 2:59join us by subscribing to Kensington
- 3:01Herald as William's instruction fitted
- 3:03on a single line.
- 3:05Before you hear that line, if you think
- 3:07William was right to keep that gate
- 3:09shut, type no key, no gate in the
- 3:11comments. Remember the phrase.
- 3:14Before we are done, you will know
- 3:16exactly who said it first and it was not
- 3:18William. Most people in Britain have
- 3:20never been inside the gardens at
- 3:22Frogmore.
- 3:24They sit in the Home Park at Windsor, a
- 3:26short way from the castle around
- 3:28Frogmore House. They are big, about 35
- 3:32acres, [music] and they were laid out in
- 3:34the 1790s for Queen Charlotte who loved
- 3:37botany,
- 3:38winding lakes, [music] wooded mounds,
- 3:41little bridges,
- 3:42glades that open up when you least
- 3:44expect them.
- 3:45Queen Victoria loved them too. She had a
- 3:48small tea house built there and it still
- 3:50stands.
- 3:52So does a summer house made to look like
- 3:54a Gothic ruin which is covered in
- 3:56wisteria in early summer. And the
- 3:58gardens have changed a little over the
- 4:00generations.
- 4:02Trees and shrubs were added in 1977 to
- 4:05mark the late Queen's silver Jubilee.
- 4:07Some of the people who planted them are
- 4:09still talked about by the staff today.
- 4:11For most of the year, the gardens are
- 4:13private. [music] A few times in certain
- 4:15years, they have opened to the public
- 4:17for charity days. Visitors buy a ticket,
- 4:20walk the paths, have a cup of tea in a
- 4:22tent by the house and go home. The money
- 4:25goes to good causes. That is the
- 4:27garden's public life. It is small and it
- 4:30is careful, and it has been run the same
- 4:32way for a very long time. Their private
- 4:35life is something else.
- 4:37For the family, the gardens at Frogmore
- 4:39have always been a place to walk without
- 4:41being watched, a place to be quiet. The
- 4:44late Queen, people who worked for her
- 4:46say, treated them almost like a room in
- 4:48her own house.
- 4:50You did not bring strangers into it. You
- 4:52did not bring cameras into it, and you
- 4:54certainly did not use it to sell
- 4:56anything. The request had come in about
- 4:5810 days earlier.
- 5:00Camilla's office had been approached by
- 5:02a publisher making a coffee table book
- 5:04about her reading, her books, her
- 5:06reading, her love of gardens.
- 5:09They wanted pictures somewhere beautiful
- 5:11and English and private, somewhere their
- 5:14readers had never seen.
- 5:16Somebody in Camilla's office suggested
- 5:18Frogmore. The publisher was delighted.
- 5:21Its editor sent back a mood board within
- 5:23a day. Camilla on the little bridge.
- 5:26Camilla with a book on the steps of the
- 5:27tea house. Camilla walking her dogs
- 5:30through the mist by the water. There was
- 5:32even a working headline penciled in at
- 5:34the top of the page, her secret garden.
- 5:37It was on paper, not a ridiculous idea.
- 5:40The gardens are royal. They are close to
- 5:42Windsor. [music] The light by the lake
- 5:44in the morning is famous among the
- 5:45people who know it. The office sent a
- 5:48polite note to the team that looks after
- 5:50the estate. It asked for access for a
- 5:52small crew on a weekday morning for
- 5:54about 4 hours with use of the area
- 5:57around the tea house for a set of
- 5:59portraits.
- 6:00The note was copied, as these things
- 6:02are, to a handful of people across
- 6:04households. One of them worked for
- 6:06William, and people close to William say
- 6:09that when he read it, he went very quiet
- 6:12and then asked a question nobody
- 6:13expected. Who's the head gardener at
- 6:16Frogmore at the moment? His aide looked
- 6:18it up. [music] It was not the man in the
- 6:20wax jacket. That man was not the head of
- 6:23anything. He was simply the one who had
- 6:25been there longest. Not the head,
- 6:28William said, the one who's been there
- 6:30since Granny's time.
- 6:32Is he still there? He was.
- 6:35Ask him to ring me, William said. Before
- 6:37that call ever happened, Camilla's
- 6:39office began to chase. A member of her
- 6:42staff rang the estate office two days
- 6:44after the note went in, then again the
- 6:46next morning. She wanted the access
- 6:48confirmed in writing, she said, because
- 6:51the publisher needed to book its crew
- 6:53and its stylist, [music] and the
- 6:55photographer had turned down other work
- 6:57to keep the morning free.
- 6:58The deputy who took the calls was in an
- 7:00awkward spot.
- 7:02Nobody had said no, nobody had said yes,
- 7:05and a copy of the request was now
- 7:07sitting unanswered on a desk at
- 7:10Kensington Palace. Is there a
- 7:12difficulty? [music] The woman from
- 7:13Clarence House asked on the third call.
- 7:16Not that I've been told, Madam. Then may
- 7:19I take it as agreed? [music] The deputy
- 7:21says he looked at the phone in his hand
- 7:23for a long moment. I'd rather you
- 7:25didn't, Madam, he said. Not until I've
- 7:28heard back. [music] The line went quiet.
- 7:31Then she thanked him very coolly and
- 7:33rang off. By the end of the day, people
- 7:36say Clarence House had told the
- 7:38publisher that the shoot was as good as
- 7:40confirmed. The gardener did not ring
- 7:42that day.
- 7:44He did not have William's number, and
- 7:46when the message reached him through two
- 7:48other people, he assumed it was a
- 7:50mistake. So William rang him. [music] It
- 7:53was a Thursday evening. The gardener was
- 7:55at home in a small estate cottage with
- 7:58his tea on the table.
- 8:00He picked up the phone and heard a voice
- 8:02he had last heard in person when William
- 8:04was about 14, running down a path at
- 8:07Frogmore with his brother, being told
- 8:09off for jumping on a bridge.
- 8:11>> And I remember my grandmother being the
- 8:13first person out of Balmoral, uh,
- 8:15running across the lawn in her kilt, um,
- 8:17and, uh, came charging over and gave us
- 8:19the most mighty bollocking.
- 8:20>> I don't know if you remember me, William
- 8:22said. The gardener says he laughed out
- 8:24loud. They talked for a while about
- 8:26nothing much, the lake, the tulip trees,
- 8:30whether the redwoods were still doing
- 8:31well.
- 8:32And then William asked the question he
- 8:34had rung to ask.
- 8:36Did my grandmother ever say anything to
- 8:37you about people taking photographs in
- 8:39the gardens?
- 8:41The line went quiet. It stayed quiet.
- 8:44She did, sir, the gardener said, once,
- 8:47only once, [music] but she meant it.
- 8:50Will you tell me? I'd rather tell you in
- 8:52the garden, sir, if you don't mind. It's
- 8:55the kind of thing she said in the
- 8:56garden. William could have pressed him.
- 8:59He did not. Then I'll come to the
- 9:00garden, he said. Tomorrow? Tomorrow's
- 9:03fine, sir, early if you can,
- 9:06before anybody else is about. Why before
- 9:09anybody else? There was a short pause,
- 9:12and then the gardener said something
- 9:13that William, people close to him say,
- 9:16[music] has repeated since. Because
- 9:18she'd have wanted it that way, sir,
- 9:20quiet, [music] nobody watching. So
- 9:22William drove down to Windsor the next
- 9:24morning on his own, apart from his
- 9:26protection officer. He did not tell
- 9:28anyone at Clarence House he was going.
- 9:30They met on a bench beside the lake. The
- 9:33gardener had brought two mugs of tea in
- 9:35a flask. William, people say, had
- 9:37brought nothing and apologized for it.
- 9:40The gardener told him not to be daft.
- 9:42For a few minutes neither of them said
- 9:44anything.
- 9:45A heron lifted off the far bank. [music]
- 9:47The protection officer had stayed back
- 9:49by the path, out of earshot, the way he
- 9:52had been asked to. William told the
- 9:54gardener about the book, about the tea
- 9:56house,
- 9:57about the portraits by the lake.
- 9:59He did not say whose shoot it was. He
- 10:02did not have to.
- 10:03The gardener listened and nodded [music]
- 10:05and poured more tea. Is she going to be
- 10:08angry, sir? he asked. Very, William
- 10:11"Is that going to be a problem?" "Not
- 10:13for me, sir," the gardener said, [music]
- 10:15"might be for you." And then the
- 10:17gardener told him what the late queen
- 10:19had said.
- 10:20was many years ago. A photographer,
- 10:22working on a book, had been given
- 10:24permission to take pictures of the
- 10:26gardens. Nothing wrong with that. But
- 10:28one morning the gardener had found him
- 10:30setting up a shot in front of the tea
- 10:32house with two people the gardener did
- 10:34not know, both in expensive clothes,
- 10:37posing as if the place belonged to them.
- 10:39They were friends of somebody, being
- 10:41photographed for a society page. The
- 10:44gardener had not known what to do, so he
- 10:46had done nothing. [music] And later that
- 10:48week, the late queen had walked through
- 10:50the gardens as she often did, and
- 10:53stopped beside him at this exact bench.
- 10:55She had seen the pictures.
- 10:57Somebody had shown her.
- 10:59"She wasn't cross with me," the gardener
- 11:01told William. "She was very kind about
- 11:03it, [music] but she said something I've
- 11:05never forgotten." "What did she say?"
- 11:08The gardener put his mug down on the
- 11:10bench. [music] "She said, this garden
- 11:12isn't for being seen in, it's for being
- 11:14left alone in. [music] If anyone ever
- 11:17comes here to be photographed, you don't
- 11:19need to ask me.
- 11:20No key, no gate." William sat without
- 11:23speaking. Out on the water, a moorhen
- 11:26called once and went quiet. At last he
- 11:29said, "Did she ever say that to anyone
- 11:31else?" "Not that I know of, sir. I think
- 11:34she said it to me because I was the one
- 11:35who'd be standing at the gate."
- 11:37William looked out across the water for
- 11:39a while. "You know why I'm asking," he
- 11:41said. "I've heard, sir. Word gets round
- 11:44the estate. [music] If I put that
- 11:46instruction in writing, it'll be you at
- 11:48the gate, not me. You'll be the one they
- 11:51shout at." The gardener shrugged. "I've
- 11:53been shouted at by better, sir."
- 11:55"Your grandmother's corgis, mostly."
- 11:58William laughed. Then he stopped
- 12:00laughing. "I mean it. If you'd rather
- 12:02not, I'll find another way." "Nobody
- 12:04would think less of you." "She would,"
- 12:06[music]
- 12:07the gardener said simply. "She asked me,
- 12:09not you, sir." "With respect."
- 12:12"Me. So that is where the phrase came
- 12:14from
- 12:15not William [music]
- 12:16not a palace statement the late Queen on
- 12:19a bench to a gardener with mud on his
- 12:21cuffs. William drove back to London that
- 12:24afternoon.
- 12:25That evening he did two things. The
- 12:27first was to ring his father. The king
- 12:30was at home that week [music] and people
- 12:31say the call was short and calm. William
- 12:34told him what the gardener had said.
- 12:36[music] The king by every account
- 12:38listened and then said that he
- 12:40remembered his mother talking that way
- 12:42about Frogmore and that he would not
- 12:44overrule her wishes about her own
- 12:45garden.
- 12:46Will Camilla mind? William asked.
- 12:49The line went silent for a moment. Yes,
- 12:52[music] the king said, she will. She'll
- 12:55mind very much and she'll mind that it
- 12:57came from you.
- 12:58Another pause. Is there a way to do this
- 13:01that doesn't end with her standing at a
- 13:02gate? I'll write to the estate team
- 13:05tonight, William [music] said. It'll be
- 13:07clear.
- 13:08Nobody will be confused. The king,
- 13:11people say, sighed. Clear isn't always
- 13:14the same as kind, William.
- 13:15He did not tell William what to do next.
- 13:18He did not stop him either.
- 13:20The second thing William did was write a
- 13:22short message to the estate team.
- 13:24It was sent from his office the next
- 13:26morning. [music] It was a single line.
- 13:28Frogmore Gardens, no cameras, no access.
- 13:32The late Queen's wish. That was all.
- 13:35The estate team, people [music] say,
- 13:37read it and did not quite know what to
- 13:39make of it. It was unusual for William
- 13:41to send an instruction about Windsor at
- 13:43all.
- 13:44But it was clear and it came with a name
- 13:46attached.
- 13:48They sent a copy to the gardener. The
- 13:50gardener read it in his kitchen, folded
- 13:52it and put it in the pocket of his wax
- 13:54jacket. [music]
- 13:55Then his phone rang. It was the estate
- 13:58manager.
- 13:59A decent man, the gardener says, and a
- 14:01worried one. [music] You don't have to
- 14:03be the one on the gate tomorrow, the
- 14:05manager told him.
- 14:07I can send one of the younger lads
- 14:08[music] or I can go myself. You've got
- 14:11nothing to prove to anybody.
- 14:13Who's going to explain it to them then?
- 14:15The gardener [music] asked. Nobody needs
- 14:17to explain anything. The gate's locked.
- 14:20That's the instruction. That's not what
- 14:22she said though. The gardener said, she
- 14:24said I'd be the one standing there, not
- 14:26you, not a lad, me. She said that years
- 14:30ago. She did and I'm still here. The
- 14:33manager tried once more. [music] He
- 14:35reminded the gardener that the people
- 14:37coming were from Camilla's office, that
- 14:39they would be angry, that someone might
- 14:41complain about him by name. Then they'll
- 14:43complain, the gardener said. I've been
- 14:46complained about before, usually over
- 14:48the compost. The manager laughed despite
- 14:51himself and gave up and the gardener
- 14:53went to bed. The message did not
- 14:56crucially reach Camilla's private office
- 14:58in time or if it did, nobody there read
- 15:01it before the cars set off.
- 15:03Picture the person asked to hold the
- 15:05gate while everyone else went home.
- 15:07Maybe that person was you.
- 15:09Say whether you've been shut out or the
- 15:11one doing the shutting. Press like if a
- 15:13promise on a garden bench still counts.
- 15:16Send this to whoever once stood their
- 15:17ground for you and join us by
- 15:19subscribing to Kensington Herald. As
- 15:22that gate was about to get loud.
- 15:24So we come back to the gate seven
- 15:26minutes to eight. The padlock clicked
- 15:28shut on the inside. 22 minutes later,
- 15:31three cars. The two women from Camilla's
- 15:34office rattled the gate, called out and
- 15:36got no answer. One of them rang the
- 15:38estate office.
- 15:40The estate office very politely said
- 15:43there had been an instruction [music]
- 15:44and that the gardens were closed to
- 15:46photography. Closed by whom? By the
- 15:49Prince of Wales's office, madam.
- 15:51There was a pause. [music]
- 15:52On whose authority? The late Queen's,
- 15:54madam. That's what it says. [music]
- 15:57The woman put the phone down and stared
- 15:59at the gate. The photographer, people
- 16:01who were there say, [music] was the
- 16:03first to laugh, not unkindly.
- 16:06He had worked with royal households for
- 16:0720 years and he knew when a morning was
- 16:10over. He started packing up his bags.
- 16:13[music] The stylist sat down on the
- 16:14bumper of the second car and lit a
- 16:17cigarette.
- 16:18The second woman from Camilla's office
- 16:20was not ready to give up. She walked
- 16:22back to the main gate, put both hands on
- 16:24the bars and called up the path again,
- 16:27louder this time. [music] Excuse me, we
- 16:30are expected. We are here from Clarence
- 16:32House. The gardener did not move. Do you
- 16:36know who we're here for? She called. Do
- 16:38you have any idea whose shoot this is?
- 16:41Her colleague touched her arm and said
- 16:42something quietly. [music] The woman
- 16:44shook her off. I'm going to need your
- 16:46name, she called. Do you hear me? I'm
- 16:49going to need your name for the report.
- 16:51Up by the flower bed, the gardener says
- 16:54he heard every word. He went on pressing
- 16:57the soil down around the same plant over
- 16:59and over long after it needed it.
- 17:02One of the women from Camilla's office
- 17:04tried a different approach.
- 17:06She walked along the fence line to see
- 17:08whether there was another way in. There
- 17:10is more than one gate into those
- 17:11gardens. She found a second one, a
- 17:14smaller one set into the wall further
- 17:16along. [music] It was locked too
- 17:19from the inside with a brand new padlock
- 17:22that still had the price sticker on the
- 17:24bottom. The gardener had bought it
- 17:25himself the evening before at a hardware
- 17:29shop in Windsor.
- 17:30He had paid for it out of his own
- 17:31pocket. He says he did not want anyone
- 17:34to say the estate had spent money
- 17:35keeping Camilla out. And the gardener, a
- 17:38long way up the path, kept on kneeling
- 17:40by his flower bed. He says that his
- 17:42hands were shaking slightly. He did not
- 17:45like being rude. He had never ignored
- 17:47anybody calling him in his life.
- 17:50But he remembered the bench and he
- 17:52remembered the voice and he kept his
- 17:54back turned. Within the hour, Camilla
- 17:57knew she was at Clarence House, people
- 17:59say, when the call came through from her
- 18:01office. She listened. [music]
- 18:03She asked for the instruction to be read
- 18:05out to her. Then she asked to hear it a
- 18:07second time. The late Queen's wish, she
- 18:10repeated. And who decided what the late
- 18:13Queen wanted? Nobody had a reply ready.
- 18:16She tried to reach the king. He was in
- 18:18meetings. She left a message.
- 18:21And for the next hour or so, the gate
- 18:23looked like Camilla's to keep.
- 18:25A senior figure at the castle, who had
- 18:27not yet seen William's message, rang the
- 18:30estate manager and asked, quite
- 18:32reasonably, why a gate was being held
- 18:35shut against the king's own wife. Was
- 18:37there really a written instruction?
- 18:39Could it not be opened just for the
- 18:41morning to save everybody embarrassment?
- 18:44The estate manager, already worried,
- 18:46said he would see what could be done. He
- 18:48took the spare keys from the office and
- 18:50got as far as his car.
- 18:52Down at the [music] gate, word went
- 18:53round that someone was on the way with
- 18:55keys. The photographer, who had half
- 18:57packed, unzipped his bag again.
- 19:01One of the women from Camilla's office
- 19:02told the others, loudly enough for the
- 19:04gardener to hear, [music] that it was
- 19:06all being sorted.
- 19:07The gardener went on pressing the soil
- 19:09down.
- 19:10The estate manager sat in his car with
- 19:12the keys on the passenger seat [music]
- 19:14and did not start the engine. He had
- 19:16decided, he said later, to wait for one
- 19:19more phone call.
- 19:20Then she did something that surprised
- 19:22her staff. She asked for the car. She
- 19:25was going to Windsor. In London, at
- 19:27almost exactly that moment, William's
- 19:30private secretary knocked on his door.
- 19:32Sir, Clarence House have just been on.
- 19:35Her car has left for Windsor. She's
- 19:37going to the gate herself. William put
- 19:39his pen down. Do you want me to ring
- 19:41ahead, sir, or ring her? We could still
- 19:44tell her the gate's not going to open.
- 19:46Save her the drive. Those in the room
- 19:49say William did not answer for some
- 19:50time.
- 19:52He looked at the window, then at the
- 19:53phone on his desk. If I ring her now, he
- 19:56said slowly, she'll ask me to open it.
- 19:59And I'll have to say no to her face on
- 20:02the phone with her halfway down the
- 20:03motorway. With respect, sir, she's going
- 20:06to hear no either way. I know. He did
- 20:09not pick up the phone.
- 20:11Later, he would say that this was the
- 20:12one part of the whole business he got
- 20:14wrong. But that morning, he let the car
- 20:17keep going. She arrived a little before
- 20:19noon. [music] The books crew had long
- 20:21gone. The cars were gone.
- 20:24But the gate was still locked, and
- 20:26through the bars, the path still ran up
- 20:28towards the lake. Camilla got out of the
- 20:30car and walked to the gate herself.
- 20:33[music] And this time, the gardener
- 20:35turned round. He walked down the path
- 20:37towards her, slowly. He took his cap off
- 20:40when he reached the gate.
- 20:42They stood on either side of it, Camilla
- 20:44on the outside,
- 20:46the gardener on the inside. Good
- 20:48morning, [snorts] ma'am, he said. Is it?
- 20:50said Camilla. Those close enough to hear
- 20:53say her tone was not furious. It was
- 20:55something harder to read, tired perhaps,
- 20:58or cornered. Who told you to lock this?
- 21:01she asked. His Royal Highness, ma'am,
- 21:03the Prince of Wales. And who told him?
- 21:06The gardener hesitated. Then he told her
- 21:09the truth. I did, ma'am. Well, the late
- 21:12queen did. I just passed it on. He told
- 21:15her about the bench, about the
- 21:17photographer years ago,
- 21:19about the words. He did not soften them.
- 21:22This garden isn't for being seen in.
- 21:25It's for being left alone in. Camilla
- 21:27listened to the whole thing without
- 21:29interrupting. When he finished, she
- 21:31looked past him up the path towards the
- 21:34lake. For a few seconds, she was silent.
- 21:37Then she said, She never said that to
- 21:39me. No, ma'am, the gardener said. I
- 21:42don't think she said it to anybody but
- 21:44me.
- 21:45What came next [music]
- 21:46is what people still argue about most.
- 21:48Camilla asked him to open the gate,
- 21:51not for the book. The crew had gone.
- 21:53She simply asked to walk in the gardens
- 21:56on her own for a while, [music]
- 21:57and the gardener had to decide. The
- 21:59instructions said, no photography, no
- 22:02access.
- 22:03It did not say [music]
- 22:05no access for the king's wife on her
- 22:06own. He could have read it either way.
- 22:09He could have rung the estate office and
- 22:11asked. He could have rung William. He
- 22:13did none of those things.
- 22:15He stood there with the key in his
- 22:16pocket, and he looked at her. Then he
- 22:19said, I'm sorry, ma'am, not today.
- 22:22[music] Camilla did not argue. People
- 22:24who were there say she nodded just once
- 22:27as if she had expected it.
- 22:29Then she turned, walked back to her car,
- 22:31and was driven away.
- 22:33In the back of the car she made one call
- 22:36to the King's private office.
- 22:38She did not ask for the gate to be
- 22:40opened.
- 22:41People who later heard about the call
- 22:42say she asked something else entirely.
- 22:45Did my husband know about this? The
- 22:47official who took it says he chose his
- 22:49words carefully. [music] The King had
- 22:51been told that William had concerns
- 22:52about the shoot. He had not been told
- 22:54about padlocks or gates or a gardener
- 22:57with his back turned.
- 22:59So nobody thought to tell me, Camilla
- 23:01said, and nobody thought to tell him.
- 23:04I'm afraid it seems that way.
- 23:06Ma'am, then somebody had better tell him
- 23:08now, she said, before he reads it in the
- 23:11papers. He did. Within half an hour the
- 23:14King had heard the whole story.
- 23:17And it was the part about his wife
- 23:18standing at a locked gate being told no
- 23:21by a member of staff that people say
- 23:23made him put his head in his hands.
- 23:26The gardener stood at the gate for a
- 23:28long time afterwards. [music] He says he
- 23:30felt hollow. He says he was certain he
- 23:32would be out of a job within days.
- 23:35That afternoon a formal complaint
- 23:37arrived at the estate office from
- 23:39Clarence House. [music] It was two
- 23:41paragraphs long.
- 23:43It described the gardener's discourtesy
- 23:45towards members of Camilla's household
- 23:48and it named him.
- 23:49The estate manager rang him at home and
- 23:51read it to him. What happens now? The
- 23:54gardener asked.
- 23:55Now, said the manager, I send it to
- 23:58Kensington Palace because it was their
- 24:00instruction you were following and we
- 24:02see what they say. What they said
- 24:04arrived the same evening, a short reply
- 24:07from William's office copied to Clarence
- 24:09House.
- 24:10It said the gardener had acted on a
- 24:12direct instruction from the Prince of
- 24:14Wales that any complaint about the gate
- 24:16should be addressed to the Prince
- 24:17himself and that the gardener was not to
- 24:20be contacted about it again.
- 24:22He was not out of a job.
- 24:24He was not even spoken to. By the
- 24:26evening the story had leaked. Not the
- 24:28details, just the outline. A publisher's
- 24:31crew turned away from a royal garden, a
- 24:34gate locked on William's orders,
- 24:36Camilla arriving in person and being
- 24:38refused. It was the kind of story that
- 24:41splits people right down the middle.
- 24:43Some saw it as William, once again,
- 24:45[music]
- 24:46putting the late Queen's wishes above
- 24:47his father's wife and using a gardener
- 24:50to do it. Cruel, they said, to make an
- 24:53old man turn her away at a gate.
- 24:55Others saw it as the simplest thing in
- 24:57the world. [music] The late Queen said
- 24:59no cameras. Somebody brought cameras.
- 25:02The gate stayed shut. Camilla's office,
- 25:04for its part, said nothing publicly,
- 25:07but privately people say there was real
- 25:09anger.
- 25:10One member of her staff complained that
- 25:12the instruction had been deliberately
- 25:14timed to catch them out. Another said
- 25:17that if William had wanted to stop the
- 25:19shoot, he could have simply rung.
- 25:21When that reached William, he answered
- 25:23it in one sentence to his own office. I
- 25:26didn't stop a photo shoot. My
- 25:28grandmother did. I just found out about
- 25:30it in time. [music] The row did not stay
- 25:32inside the offices for long.
- 25:34The next afternoon, at a routine meeting
- 25:37between the households,
- 25:39Camilla's private secretary raised it
- 25:41across the table with Williams. You
- 25:43turned a member of Camilla's staff away
- 25:45at a gate like a delivery van, she said,
- 25:48and then you sent a gardener to deal
- 25:49with Camilla herself. Nobody sent him,
- 25:52Williams's private secretary said. He
- 25:55was there because he's always there. He
- 25:58was there because your prince wanted
- 25:59somebody else to say no for him. That,
- 26:02according to those at the table, was the
- 26:04line that made everyone else go very
- 26:06quiet. Williams's private secretary took
- 26:09a moment before he answered.
- 26:11The instruction went out with his Royal
- 26:13Highness's name on it, he said.
- 26:15Nobody was hiding behind anybody.
- 26:18If Camilla would like to raise it with
- 26:20him, he'll take the call. No such call
- 26:23came, not that week. The King, [music]
- 26:26people close to him say, was not happy
- 26:28about any of it.
- 26:30Not the shoot, not the gate,
- 26:32not the sight of his wife being turned
- 26:34away by a member of staff. He spoke to
- 26:37Camilla that night, and then he spoke to
- 26:39William. It was William's call that
- 26:42people remember because the king, by
- 26:44every account, did not tell William he
- 26:47was wrong.
- 26:48He told him he should have warned
- 26:49Camilla himself. You knew she was
- 26:52coming, the king said. You let her drive
- 26:54to a locked gate. [music] And William,
- 26:57people close to him say, did not argue.
- 27:00He said his father was right about that.
- 27:02He said he should have rung her. He said
- 27:04he had thought that writing to the
- 27:05estate team was enough, and that it was
- 27:07not.
- 27:08Then he said something else.
- 27:10But I'm not changing the instruction,
- 27:12Pa. It wasn't mine to give in the first
- 27:14place. The king paused. Then he said,
- 27:17No.
- 27:18I don't suppose it was. [music] When the
- 27:20call ended, Catherine found William
- 27:22sitting on the stairs at Forest Lodge
- 27:24with the phone still in his hand. Was he
- 27:27angry? she [music] asked. No, worse. He
- 27:30was right.
- 27:32William turned the phone over. I let her
- 27:34drive all that way to a locked gate
- 27:36because I didn't want to have the
- 27:37conversation.
- 27:39So have it now, Catherine said. [music]
- 27:41In a letter? In your own handwriting,
- 27:44she said. Not your offices. [music] And
- 27:46tell her the bit about the bench. She
- 27:48deserves to know it wasn't just you. Two
- 27:51days later, Camilla received a short
- 27:53handwritten letter from William.
- 27:55People who have heard about it say it
- 27:57was polite and careful and did not take
- 27:59anything back. It apologized that she
- 28:02had driven to Windsor and found the gate
- 28:04locked without warning.
- 28:06It said that was his mistake, not the
- 28:08gardener's and not her staff's. And it
- 28:11told her, briefly, what the late queen
- 28:13had said on the bench.
- 28:15It ended with one line that people close
- 28:18to Camilla say she read more than once.
- 28:20[music] If you'd like to walk there any
- 28:22day on your own, I'll make sure the gate
- 28:25is open. Just no cameras. That's all she
- 28:28asked. [music] Camilla did not reply in
- 28:30writing. She did, though, take the
- 28:32letter through to the king that evening
- 28:34and put it down on the arm of his chair.
- 28:36Have you read this? She asked. He had
- 28:39not. He read it while she stood there.
- 28:41He's apologizing, the king said when he
- 28:43had finished.
- 28:45For the drive, Camilla [music] said, not
- 28:47for the gate number. He's not sorry
- 28:50about the gate.
- 28:51The king folded the letter and handed it
- 28:54back to her. But he's offered you the
- 28:56garden, darling, on your own, [music]
- 28:58whenever you like.
- 28:59Mummy never offered that to anybody.
- 29:02Camilla looked at the letter for a long
- 29:03moment. She never offered me very much
- 29:06at all, she said. [music] The king did
- 29:08not answer that.
- 29:09Those around him say it is the one line
- 29:11from that whole week that he has never
- 29:13repeated to anybody. But not long
- 29:15afterwards, the gardener noticed
- 29:17something. On a quiet weekday morning, a
- 29:20single car came along the estate road.
- 29:23No photographer, no stylist, no rail of
- 29:26coats, just Camilla, a protection
- 29:28officer, and her two dogs. The gate was
- 29:31open. William had arranged it. She
- 29:34walked the path to the lake on her own.
- 29:36She sat on a bench for about 20 minutes.
- 29:39Not the gardener's bench, a different
- 29:41one on the far side of the water. Then
- 29:44she walked back, nodded to the gardener
- 29:45at the gate and left.
- 29:47As she passed, one of the dogs ran to
- 29:49the gardener and sat at his boots,
- 29:51[music] the way dogs do with people who
- 29:53keep biscuits in their pockets. Camilla
- 29:55called it back. It did not come.
- 29:58The gardener bent down, rubbed its ears,
- 30:00and sent it after her. She stopped just
- 30:03for a second and looked back at him. He
- 30:05says she did not say a word to him.
- 30:08He also says she did not bring a camera.
- 30:11The gardener is near the end of his
- 30:12working life now. He has been asked more
- 30:15than once by people around the estate
- 30:18whether he regrets the morning he kept
- 30:20his back turned. He always says the same
- 30:22thing. I didn't lock that gate for the
- 30:24prince. I locked it for her.
- 30:27The old queen, she told me once, and I'm
- 30:30the only one who heard it. If I hadn't
- 30:32done it, nobody would have known she'd
- 30:34ever said it. A late queen to a gardener
- 30:37on a bench by the water.
- 30:39That is who said it first, not William,
- 30:42not the palace.
- 30:44If you think that gate should stay shut
- 30:46to cameras for good, type [music] no
- 30:48key, no gate below, so everyone who
- 30:50still looks after those gardens can see
- 30:52you are with them. Before this screen
- 30:54goes dark, do one small thing for the
- 30:57gardener. Press like if that garden
- 30:59should stay hers and send this to the
- 31:01person who first showed you that your
- 31:03word is your word.
- 31:05Then, because men like him spend whole
- 31:07lives keeping promises nobody else
- 31:09heard, name someone in the comments who
- 31:11kept their word long after anyone was
- 31:13checking.
- 31:14And join us by subscribing to Kensington
- 31:16Herald [music] as William had one more
- 31:18call to take that week. Next on
- 31:20Kensington Herald, a helicopter is
- 31:22booked to take Camilla to Sandringham
- 31:25and the pilot calls William first.
- 31:27The fog is already rolling in when that
- 31:29one begins, but down by the water, for
- 31:32as long as that gardener holds the key,
- 31:34the answer has not changed. No key, no
- 31:37gate.
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