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  1. 0:00Good morning. Imagine there is a market
  2. 0:03in Poland trying to sell people
  3. 0:05something they don't need. They have an
  4. 0:10excess of it, and an excess of this
  5. 0:12something can result in negative health
  6. 0:14effects—health problems, to put it
  7. 0:15bluntly. And what’s more, this
  8. 0:19isn’t something happening in the dark
  9. 0:21corners of the internet or on
  10. 0:22suspicious websites. No, this is
  11. 0:25something that is all over radio and TV
  12. 0:28commercials. Something I truly realized
  13. 0:35when my phone cable broke in the car
  14. 0:38and I started listening to the radio
  15. 0:40more, because listen, the amount of
  16. 0:42electrolytes they are trying to sell us
  17. 0:45—very specialized, sugar-free, for
  18. 0:47men, women, the elderly—it defies
  19. 0:49human understanding, especially since
  20. 0:51most of us, the overwhelming majority,
  21. 1:00simply don't need them. And that is
  22. 1:05what today’s video will be about,
  23. 1:07which is half-scientific,
  24. 1:08half-commentary, because I believe this
  25. 1:10is a harmful trend and the more people
  26. 1:12realize that we are being pushed into
  27. 1:14buying something we don't need and that
  28. 1:17could harm us, the better. So, one step
  29. 1:22at a time, without unnecessary emotions
  30. 1:25. But before we get to the point, a few
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  73. 3:19on your screen right now. I'm heading
  74. 3:22back—or rather, in the video, I'm
  75. 3:24getting back to the topic, but actually
  76. 3:27I'm heading home to recover quickly and
  77. 3:29film more videos. Let's start with what
  78. 3:36electrolytes actually are. As a PhD in
  79. 3:42chemistry, I have to say they are
  80. 3:44simply substances that, when dissolved
  81. 3:46in a solvent, usually water, or when
  82. 3:49melted, will conduct electricity
  83. 3:51because they dissociate into ions and
  84. 3:53carry the current. However, in the
  85. 3:59sense that I will be using the term
  86. 4:01today, we are talking about
  87. 4:02electrolytes from a dietary perspective
  88. 4:04. These are ions crucial for our body's
  89. 4:09functioning—chemical entities with a
  90. 4:12charge—such as sodium, potassium,
  91. 4:14chloride, and magnesium ions. I will
  92. 4:25mainly focus here on sodium and
  93. 4:27chlorine, essentially sodium chloride
  94. 4:29or table salt, as this is the most
  95. 4:31pressing issue and the combination of
  96. 4:33electrolytes we lose the most of
  97. 4:35through sweat. That topic will come up
  98. 4:43in a moment. So, by electrolytes, I
  99. 4:47mean those essential for human
  100. 4:49functioning, specifically, but not
  101. 4:51exclusively, sodium chloride. First, we
  102. 4:55need to answer one fundamental question
  103. 4:57. Why are these electrolytes even sold
  104. 5:00to us? What role do they play, at least
  105. 5:03according to the advertisements? The
  106. 5:06answer here is simple: these
  107. 5:07electrolytes are supposed to help us
  108. 5:09hydrate our bodies. We all know how
  109. 5:11important hydration is, that you need
  110. 5:13to drink eight glasses of water a day,
  111. 5:15right? Well, you don't actually need to
  112. 5:16drink eight glasses of water a day.
  113. 5:18That isn't supported by any scientific
  114. 5:20research. As an aside, I made a video
  115. 5:22about that years ago. Generally, you
  116. 5:24should drink as much as you feel like,
  117. 5:26excluding the elderly, who are
  118. 5:28generally—but you'll hear about all
  119. 5:30of that here. The point is that
  120. 5:34electrolytes are supposed to help us
  121. 5:36hydrate because our body is largely
  122. 5:37made of water. When that water is
  123. 5:42lacking, we can face various issues
  124. 5:44with healthy functioning. A headache is
  125. 5:49actually the least of our worries. The
  126. 5:54question is, do electrolyte solutions
  127. 5:56provide better hydration? That is the
  128. 5:59first key question. Do they truly
  129. 6:01fulfill those promises? Well, generally
  130. 6:06yes, but sometimes no. There is a large
  131. 6:11study that was conducted by the
  132. 6:13European Hydration Institute. It is a
  133. 6:16non-profit foundation that deals
  134. 6:17specifically with the issue of human
  135. 6:19hydration. And they examined how
  136. 6:23different types of solutions hydrate us
  137. 6:25. The metric they were measuring here
  138. 6:29was water retention. Retention, which
  139. 6:32is how much water remains in our body.
  140. 6:36The point was that people consumed a
  141. 6:38specific amount, a volume of fluids,
  142. 6:40and researchers measured how much they
  143. 6:42urinated. And based on that, it was
  144. 6:47possible to assess how much of that
  145. 6:49consumed fluid, that drunk water or
  146. 6:51substance, remained in the body. The
  147. 6:59idea behind adding salt, or sugars—
  148. 7:01mainly glucose—to plain water is that
  149. 7:04our body's physiology is such that the
  150. 7:06transport of sodium and glucose from,
  151. 7:08for example, the intestines and stomach
  152. 7:11into our body often makes us absorb
  153. 7:13water more efficiently; essentially,
  154. 7:15water follows these chemical entities.
  155. 7:23Of course, concentration issues also
  156. 7:25come into play here. We have hypotonic
  157. 7:29solutions, where the concentration of
  158. 7:31these salts is lower than in the body.
  159. 7:34Isotonic, roughly the same, and
  160. 7:36hypertonic. Here, the movement of ions
  161. 7:38and the movement of water will be
  162. 7:40different. Let's put that aside for now
  163. 7:43, because we are really interested in
  164. 7:45the results of these studies. Because
  165. 7:48we buy a ready-made product. We don't
  166. 7:50have to prepare it, so to speak, or
  167. 7:52rather, we have a clear recipe for
  168. 7:55preparing it: so many capsules or
  169. 7:57tablets per so many milliliters of
  170. 7:59water. And it turned out that, indeed,
  171. 8:03these types of solutions containing
  172. 8:05salt and glucose hydrated better and
  173. 8:07had higher water retention than plain
  174. 8:09water. Interestingly, milk also
  175. 8:13performed well, but the solutions that
  176. 8:18did so well were specific solutions.
  177. 8:25These were so-called ORSs, oral
  178. 8:27rehydration solutions. I think that’s
  179. 8:35how you can translate it. And these are
  180. 8:37things used in medicine. For people who
  181. 8:39are dehydrated as a result of diarrhea
  182. 8:41or vomiting. These are specially
  183. 8:43prepared compositions. Such sports
  184. 8:46electrolytes performed no better than
  185. 8:48water. And this is relatively important
  186. 8:51. In the sense that there are no clear
  187. 8:55studies showing that they universally
  188. 8:57hydrate better in a situation where we
  189. 8:59are talking about people who are not
  190. 9:01dehydrated. This is quite important in
  191. 9:05this matter. Here, these people were
  192. 9:08not dehydrated, because there are other
  193. 9:11studies—a bit more recent, but also
  194. 9:13on a smaller group of subjects, I
  195. 9:15believe 19 men were included—in which
  196. 9:17such a sports electrolyte solution did
  197. 9:19perform better than plain water in
  198. 9:21terms of hydration, but there we were
  199. 9:23dealing with people who were dehydrated
  200. 9:25after exercise, so that's a completely
  201. 9:28different story. If someone is
  202. 9:31dehydrated from exercise or simply
  203. 9:33dehydrated, then such an electrolyte
  204. 9:35solution might work better than water.
  205. 9:38However, for people who are functioning
  206. 9:40in their daily lives, there are no
  207. 9:41clear indications for that. And there
  208. 9:43is one more caveat that needs to be
  209. 9:45made here. Specifically, this study on
  210. 9:4919 men was sponsored by the Coca-Cola
  211. 9:51Company, someone who produces, among
  212. 9:53other things, such sports drinks with
  213. 9:56electrolytes. So we are dealing here
  214. 10:01with certain conflicts of interest.
  215. 10:03Literature reviews indeed show that the
  216. 10:05addition of glucose, the addition of
  217. 10:07sugars at the level of 4–9%, helps
  218. 10:12with hydration, but again, I emphasize,
  219. 10:15post-exercise. For ordinary people, the
  220. 10:18benefits of drinking electrolytes
  221. 10:20instead of water are, well, there are
  222. 10:26no real benefits if we take into
  223. 10:28account only hydration. Unless they are
  224. 10:32suffering from diarrhea or vomiting,
  225. 10:34but that is a different matter. And
  226. 10:38here is an important note, this is a
  227. 10:40fairly universal truth. Namely, elderly
  228. 10:44people, who according to one review are
  229. 10:46on average 24%of the time dehydrated to
  230. 10:52some degree—by elderly, we mean 65
  231. 10:55plus. So, when it comes to replenishing
  232. 10:57this water deficit, they don't gain
  233. 10:59much at all if they drink electrolytes
  234. 11:01at the expense of regular water. And
  235. 11:04you can't assume that these are people
  236. 11:06who, just because they turned 65 and
  237. 11:08retired, automatically get dehydrated.
  238. 11:11No, it doesn't work like that. Children
  239. 11:14not only don't benefit, but drinking
  240. 11:16beverages with added sugar can
  241. 11:18negatively affect their nutritional
  242. 11:20choices, for example. Later, it may
  243. 11:23affect how their bodies function.
  244. 11:28Pregnant women also do not need, do not
  245. 11:31need additional hydration here. And I
  246. 11:37would even say that using electrolytes
  247. 11:39for some people can be problematic, can
  248. 11:42be harmful in terms of health. And I
  249. 11:46don't just mean people who have kidney
  250. 11:48disease, for example, chronic kidney
  251. 11:50failure. There, indeed, such a sudden
  252. 11:54addition of salt can be unfavorable.
  253. 11:59However, it is very important to
  254. 12:01address the topic of hypertension,
  255. 12:03because we have a large, a large body
  256. 12:05of evidence. A body of evidence that
  257. 12:11sodium chloride consumption correlates
  258. 12:13—no, not just correlates, but there
  259. 12:15is a causal relationship between the
  260. 12:17amount of salt in the diet and how high
  261. 12:20the blood pressure symptoms are, that
  262. 12:22is, how severe the hypertension is. It
  263. 12:25is specifically about the fact that
  264. 12:26large population studies show that
  265. 12:28limiting the consumption of table salt,
  266. 12:30sodium chloride, causes both systolic
  267. 12:32and diastolic blood pressure in people
  268. 12:34with hypertension to decrease. So it
  269. 12:36can be said that there is a causal
  270. 12:38relationship here. And electrolytes
  271. 12:41very often provide us with exactly that
  272. 12:43sodium chloride. Sodium chloride, which
  273. 12:47is basically hard to be deficient in
  274. 12:49within the population. What do I mean?
  275. 12:56I mean that on average, according to
  276. 12:58the WHO, every person consumes 4.3
  277. 13:00grams of sodium per day, which
  278. 13:03corresponds to eating 11 grams of table
  279. 13:05salt. In Poland, these studies were
  280. 13:10also conducted. This is a relatively
  281. 13:13recent study published in '26, covering
  282. 13:15'24, and it's quite interestingly
  283. 13:18conducted; it used survey data to
  284. 13:20determine what Poles spend their money
  285. 13:22on—food, among other things—and
  286. 13:24knowing the average salt content in
  287. 13:26those food types, they could estimate
  288. 13:29the average salt intake of Poles, with
  289. 13:31one important caveat: it only accounts
  290. 13:33for home consumption. So, if they eat
  291. 13:37anything outside the home, for instance
  292. 13:39in restaurants, that’s an additional
  293. 13:41amount. In Poland, this calculated
  294. 13:44sodium consumption is at a level of
  295. 13:473.27 grams per day. The trend is
  296. 13:49generally downward, so that’s a plus.
  297. 13:53However, it still translates to 8.3
  298. 13:55grams of table salt every single day.
  299. 13:59Is that a lot or a little in Poland?
  300. 14:02Because these numbers only make sense
  301. 14:04within a certain context. It’s a lot
  302. 14:11—I’d even say way too much—
  303. 14:13because the World Health Organization
  304. 14:15recommends not consuming more than 5
  305. 14:17grams of table salt per day, which is
  306. 14:19essentially about 2 grams of sodium
  307. 14:21ions. So, both globally and nationally,
  308. 14:28we are way over, and that is why I said
  309. 14:30that, essentially, it doesn't happen
  310. 14:33that people have a deficiency of sodium
  311. 14:35ions, and therefore there is no
  312. 14:40justification for using electrolytes.
  313. 14:45If you work out, if you go for a run—
  314. 14:47I don't know—of 5 or even 10 km, if
  315. 14:49you go to the gym for an hour or an
  316. 14:51hour and a half, these are not
  317. 14:53situations, even if you sweat profusely
  318. 14:56, where using electrolytes to replenish
  319. 14:58a sodium deficit would be justified.
  320. 15:04Because, as I said, sodium chloride is
  321. 15:06the main ingredient in electrolytes
  322. 15:08that is lost in sweat, that leaves our
  323. 15:11bodies through sweat, for a simple
  324. 15:13reason: we already have too much sodium
  325. 15:15, and this sodium is not beneficial for
  326. 15:18us. I’ll say even more. In 2023,
  327. 15:23according to World Health Organization
  328. 15:25estimates, 1.7 million people died due
  329. 15:28to excessive sodium consumption, an
  330. 15:30excessive amount of sodium in their
  331. 15:32diet. So, as I mentioned, trying to
  332. 15:39sell electrolytes to everyone as a
  333. 15:41universal way to hydrate—in summer or
  334. 15:43not, regardless of gender or age—is
  335. 15:45selling something that doesn't
  336. 15:47necessarily work for people who don't
  337. 15:49need it, because they already have an
  338. 15:51excess of those ingredients. They have
  339. 15:56a free alternative in the form of water
  340. 15:58, which works just as well in most or
  341. 16:00many cases, as research shows. Not any
  342. 16:03worse. And an excess of what is being
  343. 16:07sold can actually harm us. So,
  344. 16:10electrolytes don't make sense, right?
  345. 16:17You probably think that knowing all
  346. 16:18this, and having known it for some time
  347. 16:21before I started preparing for this
  348. 16:22video, I would never touch these
  349. 16:24electrolytes, right? Isotonic drinks.
  350. 16:28Oh, give it a rest. And that’s
  351. 16:31exactly where it turns out Dawid is a
  352. 16:33hypocrite, but not necessarily, not
  353. 16:36necessarily. It’s all because cycling
  354. 16:41has been a very big part of my life
  355. 16:43lately. Yes, cycling changes everything
  356. 16:51. This year, I rode 200 km on a bike
  357. 16:54for the first time. For the first time,
  358. 16:56I had a route with 3,000 meters of
  359. 16:57elevation gain. I rode the Tour de
  360. 16:59Pologne for amateurs. In general,
  361. 17:02across various bikes—commuting to
  362. 17:05work, on trainers—at this point,
  363. 17:07I’ve logged over 6,000 km, and I
  364. 17:09often have a bike workout or a ride
  365. 17:12that lasts 3 or 4 hours. In this case,
  366. 17:21we're entering the territory of
  367. 17:22long-distance physical activity that is
  368. 17:25meant to train capacity and endurance,
  369. 17:27which involves heavy sweating—
  370. 17:28something you don’t feel on a bike
  371. 17:30because you’re cutting through the
  372. 17:32wind, which often aids evaporation.
  373. 17:40That’s where using electrolytes and
  374. 17:42isotonic sports drinks becomes more
  375. 17:44justified. Of course, again, it’s not
  376. 17:49universal because it will depend on the
  377. 17:51temperature, your sweat rate, how much
  378. 17:53sodium is normally in your sweat, how
  379. 17:55intense the effort is, and the humidity
  380. 17:58. Even the sun exposure, how long—how
  381. 18:02long the effort lasts, I probably
  382. 18:05already mentioned that. In general,
  383. 18:08there are a multitude of factors that
  384. 18:10influence how much you should consume.
  385. 18:14You should certainly not aim to replace
  386. 18:16one liter of sweat with one liter of
  387. 18:18drink. Studies show that the difference
  388. 18:23is minimal, and very often consuming,
  389. 18:26for example, water or too large a
  390. 18:28quantity of hypotonic solutions—where
  391. 18:30the concentration of ions and glucose
  392. 18:32is lower than in the body—can lead to
  393. 18:34the opposite situation. Namely, we will
  394. 18:41get rid of sodium this way, because the
  395. 18:43ions will move from where there is a
  396. 18:45lot of it. These are the body's cells
  397. 18:50to the fluid that is in the intestines,
  398. 18:52let's say. And in this way, we can lead
  399. 18:55to that rare situation where someone on
  400. 18:57a Western diet will have too little
  401. 18:59sodium in their body, leading to
  402. 19:01hyponatremia. Actually, here’s a fun
  403. 19:05fact, or rather two fun facts, since
  404. 19:08we’ve collectively put cycling on the
  405. 19:10table: paradoxically, in real-world
  406. 19:12studies (and a meta-analysis of 28
  407. 19:14scientific studies shows this), the
  408. 19:17best hydration in these situations
  409. 19:19comes not from isotonic solutions, but
  410. 19:21from slightly hypotonic ones, meaning
  411. 19:24those that have slightly less less
  412. 19:30electrolytes, less glucose, and less
  413. 19:32sugar than what’s in the body’s
  414. 19:34cells. For this reason, they perform
  415. 19:39the best when it comes to hydration.
  416. 19:42That’s one fun fact. Listen, the
  417. 19:45second fun fact I have to share, which
  418. 19:50is kind of mind-blowing, is that there
  419. 19:52is a limit to how much you can
  420. 19:54replenish fluid deficits. And
  421. 19:59professional road cycling is a sport
  422. 20:02where situations can arise where it's
  423. 20:04impossible to replenish fluids, where
  424. 20:06dehydration during a stage is simply
  425. 20:08inevitable—not extreme, of course.
  426. 20:13Athletes, and cross-sectional studies
  427. 20:16throughout a race show this too. They
  428. 20:19make up for those deficits after the
  429. 20:21stages, so it’s not that they stay
  430. 20:23dehydrated, but on a hot, fast stage,
  431. 20:25the rate of water loss through sweat
  432. 20:27can be 2.5 liters per hour. However,
  433. 20:29our bodies are built in such a way that
  434. 20:32they cannot replenish this faster than
  435. 20:34a liter to 1.2 liters per hour through
  436. 20:36fluids. You can drink more, but the
  437. 20:39excess will simply pass right through
  438. 20:41us physically. So, cycling is a sport
  439. 20:46where long exertion is often linked to
  440. 20:48inevitable weight loss due to water
  441. 20:50loss, and on hot days for pros, it can
  442. 20:53reach several kilograms—meaning two,
  443. 20:55three, or for heavier riders, even four
  444. 20:58kilograms. So, um, I use electrolytes,
  445. 21:04but I don't consider that to make me a
  446. 21:07hypocrite. I use them because in that
  447. 21:11specific aspect, they make sense. So,
  448. 21:15I’m leaning toward saying that it
  449. 21:17isn't a universal scam; that is,
  450. 21:19selling electrolytes isn't a fraud.
  451. 21:22It's not like someone is doing
  452. 21:24something harmful. However, it is
  453. 21:27problematic and potentially harmful to
  454. 21:30try to sell these electrolytes to
  455. 21:32everyone. To everyone, because it won't
  456. 21:38work for most people, for many people.
  457. 21:41It could potentially expose them to
  458. 21:43losses, not only financial but also
  459. 21:45health consequences. And on top of that
  460. 21:49, it gives a false sense that if you
  461. 21:51drink a glass of electrolytes, you've
  462. 21:53done everything necessary. Meanwhile,
  463. 21:57in many situations, a few glasses of
  464. 22:00plain water or milk—even lactose-free
  465. 22:02—would work much better. So I stand
  466. 22:06by that. Those ubiquitous ads, which,
  467. 22:10um, were hard to—as it turned out, I
  468. 22:12found it hard that summer—to avoid,
  469. 22:14are an attempt to sell people something
  470. 22:17that won't necessarily work for them,
  471. 22:19something the vast majority don't need
  472. 22:21and something that in excess can harm
  473. 22:28them, and they usually already have an
  474. 22:30excess of what might prove harmful in
  475. 22:31the long run. If you aren't doing such
  476. 22:37prolonged—more than two hours, let's
  477. 22:40say, that’s a safe threshold for
  478. 22:42exertion—then drinking water is
  479. 22:44probably enough, even if you exercise.
  480. 22:48After that point, the use of
  481. 22:50electrolytes is much more justified.
  482. 22:53Alright, that's it. I think I’ve said
  483. 22:58everything, since this is an unscripted
  484. 23:00episode, so I was going a bit based on
  485. 23:03spontaneous notes. If not, you probably
  486. 23:07saw some retakes or corrections in this
  487. 23:09video. And if so, I hope you learned
  488. 23:13something interesting and maybe even
  489. 23:15something practical. That's it. Thank
  490. 23:20you for listening. I’d like to
  491. 23:22especially thank those who support
  492. 23:23Naukowy Bełkot on Patronite, because
  493. 23:25thanks to you, we can create these
  494. 23:27types of videos at our own pace and in
  495. 23:29our own style, without worrying about
  496. 23:31algorithms or the fact that we’re
  497. 23:33racing against the increasingly
  498. 23:35ubiquitous AI slop, about which I’ll
  499. 23:37soon be making a similar video. So,
  500. 23:40what now? I’m taking the bike down
  501. 23:42and going for a ride, wearing a helmet,
  502. 23:44of course, because we always wear
  503. 23:46helmets. See you later, talk to you
  504. 23:49soon. And since you’re still here,
  505. 23:57you should know that outside of myself,
  506. 23:59a whole lot of people work and function
  507. 24:01at Naukowy Bełkot to make sure these
  508. 24:03videos hold together, make sense, and
  509. 24:05actually look good. This is Adam, who
  510. 24:08edits the videos and, as you can see,
  511. 24:10also puts bikes on the table. Konrad
  512. 24:13Pomorski has been helping him edit
  513. 24:15these films. Patrycja Jakub Golszewska,
  514. 24:18Anna Mleczku, and Monika Chylińska are
  515. 24:20responsible for the research, while for
  516. 24:22all the visuals—of which there are
  517. 24:24fewer in the comments, though the
  518. 24:25thumbnail is also important. Ewelina
  519. 24:27Podsiadła; this team is able to work
  520. 24:30precisely thanks to the support of our
  521. 24:32patrons. Thank you, and also thank you
  522. 24:34for watching these videos, sharing them
  523. 24:37, and commenting, so take care and once
  524. 24:39again, see you later, talk to you soon
  525. 24:41—right, Adam?
  526. 24:42Yeah.

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