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0:00hello everyone I'm Cole from the kingdom
0:02I'm joined here with Lady suvan and
0:04Darth Shady lellan uh today we're going
0:06to be talking about a lot of the uh
0:10background well not background but a lot
0:12of the implications of the lore that was
0:15revealed and presented to us in uh the
0:17veil guard so uh you do can say
0:20hi hi I'm Darth Shady
0:23lalon hello I'm lady
0:26svine all right so um one of the
0:31biggest things that people have talked
0:33about um okay there there are two places
0:36we can start with this so we can start
0:38with either the blight and all the
0:43implications about that all the new lore
0:45that was revealed and uh different
0:47situations that they gave us or we can
0:49start with the secret
0:53ending uh do you do you have an opinion
1:00okay we're starting with the the blight
1:03okay the blight uh in the game
1:08I I liked some of what they did and I
1:11did not like other stuff that they did
1:13um I liked all the blight growths and
1:18you know it being almost like this
1:19fungus that's polluting everything I
1:22like that uh as for the dark spawn
1:25themselves I didn't care for what they
1:26did there um and I'm still confused
1:30about a lot of stuff like how brood
1:33mothers are going to relate to this um a
1:37thing happened with uh one of our Mages
1:40in at the very end of the
1:42game um but a big big big thing that
1:45people are talking about is the
1:47situation in the south in Faldon and
1:49orlay with the blight
1:52apparently consuming Denim and most of
1:56falden um I guess first of all what did
1:58you what did you to think about
2:09that come on I thought we were ready so
2:13it's a lot yeah it's okay so the way
2:17that the blight is with the blight
2:19growths it's I find it more in line with
2:23what we read in the book and the
2:28calling uh so I appreciated that it I
2:33also appreciate the discovery that maybe
2:36this is what the blood originally looked
2:39like and so it's not a new form of Blade
2:42but it's back to its first form but it
2:45could have been more
2:47explored because like I said earlier in
2:52our
2:53conversations there are certain things
2:55that are kind of glossed over and there
2:57are parts of the blight that are more
3:01expanded upon and parts that are glossed
3:03over that could have benefit could have
3:07benefited to have more explanation MH
3:11one of those things sorry sorry uh one
3:14of those things for me
3:16was uh a mission for antoan and EPA
3:19where we find something new has been
3:21calling the
3:23blight and I don't know if that was
3:25supposed to be the gods or what um
3:30but they left that very
3:32open yeah I assumed it was the
3:38gods I I was uncertain if it was the
3:41gods because it wasn't made super clear
3:43I found it well written in the sense
3:45that I I love antoana and EA but but
3:49then beyond that it like it built it up
3:51and then after it did feel like can we
3:54have
3:56confirmation well H and saying that like
3:59know for certain now that the blight is
4:01connected to the Titans it comes from
4:04them so maybe it was the Titans waking
4:08up again similar to what happened in The
4:09Descent DLC because the connection with
4:12Harding because of the connection with
4:14um theum dagger the veil being torn a
4:17bit more um the gods being released
4:21maybe it was a combination of all those
4:24things but again they didn't explain
4:26this and I do think that is um a weak
4:29point of the
4:30story
4:32um
4:34but with that said um at the end we have
4:39our Mage for me it was bolara it might
4:41have been Nev um it was bolara for me
4:45too yeah they you what it seems like to
4:47me is they use blight magic to control
4:51some of the tendrils to help stop
4:54Lucian but then after elan's defeat
4:59they're C of the
5:01blight and I'm like okay does this apply
5:04to all wardens now uh is the blight
5:08going to recede from all these
5:10growths it's what soless
5:14does it's when soless says that he can
5:17heal some of the blight
5:20then so it's it's not the defeat of
5:26Elgan that does it like I interpreted
5:29that it's really soless doing that
5:31healing the blight where he could and I
5:34interpret that it's going to be all
5:36across they does so what how would that
5:40work with the solace's Bad Endings then
5:43where he doesn't go to the prison
5:45willingly like does he still does him
5:48being in this new prison feel the blight
5:51oh yeah in general or is it his will
5:54doing it
5:56mhm I don't know I don't know either it
5:58confuses me it confus yeah it it wasn't
6:01expanded upon yeah with the blight being
6:04as important as it is not just in the
6:06world of Dragon Age but in this
6:09game they probably should have explained
6:12this um yes and the other thing they
6:15didn't explain um some commenters helped
6:17me out is what happened with the other
6:19Elven Gods I'm like okay so their Arch
6:22demons died but what about you know the
6:24rest of them and I have an answer people
6:27said um without their Arch demons they
6:30died in their
6:32prison yeah the the art book kind of
6:35heavily implies SL tells us that the
6:38other gods are
6:41dead it's I haven't got my art book yet
6:43so I can't find the answer but I have
6:46seen it I think Katie Golder Fallen she
6:49has the entire art book on her Channel
6:53um so I think I saw it there but yeah
6:56they basically say yeah they're dead
6:58okay well that's
7:00a shame but at least it's an answer it's
7:03it's something else that was glossed
7:05over that could have been more expanded
7:08upon all
7:09right
7:11now let me address
7:15some concerns that people have had they
7:17think that the
7:20blight and everything going on in
7:22southern thetus is bioware's way of
7:26doing like a hard
7:27reset um so that none of our choices
7:30mattered I think moving forward our
7:33choices are going to matter again
7:35they're I don't think they're going to
7:36make the same mistake in the next
7:39game um of giving us very limited
7:42choices to
7:43import um I hope so I I AB
7:49yeah and I've seen I saw one video or
7:52actually I didn't watch the video I saw
7:54the
7:55thumbnail the thumbnail said Duncan died
7:59for nothing
8:01um and it was it was citing the the
8:06whole saw that the whole um mess going
8:09on with Southern thetus and the veil
8:11guard and my response to that was to
8:13roll my eyes and say Duncan died for
8:17nothing at the time that's what made it
8:20a
8:22tragedy yeah that's War yeah that is war
8:25and that's the other thing just because
8:28we have this new problem that does kind
8:31of seem to overshadow all our previous
8:33ones that doesn't mean our previous
8:35problems didn't matter like those were
8:37still problems that had to be solved
8:39like what if the the fifth blight had
8:42raged out of control what that what
8:45would that have meant for um the maid
8:48rebellion and ultimately the Elvin or
8:52ultimately solace's plan like all these
8:56major conflicts still mattered
9:00what I don't understand though is in
9:02Inquisition soless gets mad about the
9:05old gods being destroyed and if the old
9:08gods being destroyed kills the Elven
9:11gods in their
9:13prisons why does I have an answer for
9:15that too so do I uh if if they had
9:20died then his prison would have failed
9:22and the entire blight would have gotten
9:24free yeah the god are tied to the veil
9:28so it's
9:30so that's why he had to move them to a
9:32new prison but keep the blight
9:35contained right right that's that's the
9:38thing okay so I I forgot about that
9:41detail because so many details were just
9:43glost over and so I was like you know
9:47it's it's uh okay yeah that makes sense
9:52but yeah I have to rewatch some scenes
9:55but definitely some something else that
9:57was
9:59that I find uh could have been more
10:01expanded upon was like the so they talk
10:04about the link with the old gods and the
10:06Elven gods and they explain that but
10:09then they jump over you know some like
10:13talking about like maybe the fifth
10:14blight or other blights or you know a
10:18history would and you know the history
10:22and the links because everything links
10:24back to the elves so the interlacing
10:28histories it could have been nice to
10:31develop that more
10:35mhmh
10:38yeah once again the art book elaborates
10:42on some things that I think should have
10:44been in the game yeah which is kind of
10:46annoying we shouldn't need the art book
10:50like John Epler said that you don't need
10:52to have read anything or played any of
10:53the previous games to enjoy Dragon Age
10:55The Veil guard which
10:57to to certain extent is true but also
11:01untrue because without having read all
11:04that without having played the previous
11:06games and yeah like without the art book
11:09like there's so many there's still
11:12questions
11:14yeah well um I guess let me while we're
11:18talking about the blight and stuff what
11:21do you think the role of uh dark spawn
11:23is going to be in the future cuz we
11:24still have um like even assuming
11:29soulless like undid the damage from Veil
11:32guard like what about the architect and
11:35his disciples um yeah does the healing
11:38make them intelligent and Freer from the
11:42blight yeah uh what about brood mothers
11:44because we know what happened with the
11:45mother and Awakening she went crazy when
11:47she was uh
11:51awakened so I'm wondering what what
11:53their role is going to be moving forward
11:55I think they're still going to play a
11:56role but it's going to be a lot more
12:03erratic if the blight is kind of yur
12:09quote
12:10unquote they're going to need a new
12:12threat they're going to need something
12:15else to replace the blights because
12:19otherwise it's just rinse
12:21repeat but it would be
12:24interesting to see the
12:27blight like the dark spawn become
12:30intelligent to see them become a new
12:32race of beings to see them take their
12:35place as people as legitimate people and
12:39citizens and thetas and to start some
12:43sort of like the BL becomes a healing
12:46thing it used to infect everything and
12:49maybe now it can heal like it would be
12:51nice to see some something from it I
12:53don't know how I feel about that but no
12:56I want them to do something with it I
12:57don't want them to just wipe it off the
12:58board
13:00no exactly I'm I'm looking at a healing
13:03aspect or whatever but it it could be
13:05something else like it you know that's
13:06just one idea but definitely don't wipe
13:09it off the board I'm with you on
13:12that uh
13:15suan yeah sorry there there L
13:18noises
13:21um uh yeah no I just I don't know how
13:24they would go forward with the blight or
13:27anything it's just especially when they
13:29there's no Arch demons there's no Elvin
13:31go well I guess there's soless but
13:36like please ignore the background noises
13:41um it's I just realized
13:44complicated I just had a a crazy theory
13:48that just popped into my head all right
13:50Shady you talked about a new threat um
13:53earlier we I didn't comment on this but
13:56an
13:57narus uh from LA's quest line a
14:00forgotten one yeah uh doing their own
14:04thing I was curious what about the other
14:06two or or if there are even
14:09more
14:10um and I
14:12realized sorry with Tasha's line they
14:15set up the devouring storm the thing the
14:18canari fled
14:20from what if that's where gildon
14:25went in in his Chamber of Secrets he
14:28talked about I
14:30will gain power of my own apart from
14:33them until I strike in Mastery what if
14:35he's the one behind this devouring storm
14:39which is also connected to the the the
14:42the secret ending which is like the
14:44future of
14:46thus and maybe it can be connected to
14:49the blights too yeah more elves that's
14:52that's that's what we need in Dragon Age
14:53more Elven stuff but also I kind of that
14:57I kind of like the theory
15:00h no I know that Daren BS in not in the
15:05game but I remember there's a codex that
15:07mentions Darren Paul yeah at least there
15:10are a few interesting codex uh
15:13entries um there are a few for those
15:16across the sea and I guess now we're
15:17going to talk about the secret ending um
15:21so those across the sea uh first
15:23introduced an inquisition with a their
15:25symbol is a downward pointed triangle
15:27with two wavy lines which which is what
15:29we see if we collect the three uh
15:33strange circles yeah the floating discs
15:37or something MH um and it's talked about
15:41how they don't feel evil but they feel
15:43wrong um
15:49and right this is probably what the
15:52canari fled from this is
15:54probably the devouring storm I guess I
15:58also the sense that they were like
16:01experimenting watching from afar waiting
16:05for things to take shape so maybe the
16:07kunari were their experiment you know
16:10and maybe there was something with the
16:13evanuris that had to do with them their
16:15experiments they planted seeds I get the
16:18impression that they planted seeds
16:20somewhere like they're the
16:22masterminds planting seeds everywhere
16:24and now they're like they're like
16:26sitting like like Mr burns with like the
16:30fingers and like excellent and now it's
16:33time to reveal ourselves again like I
16:35don't I don't know there are a few
16:39um kodc entries that mention them
16:42there's one in Vinter uh the ancient
16:44magisters knew about those across the
16:47sea and also um andrel was defending
16:51against in an invasion from across the
16:54sea so we know they've been around for a
16:59while um there's a lot to unpack there
17:01but I want to address that some people
17:05really really hate the secret ending
17:09because I guess their interpretation is
17:13that like Lan and Meredith and bartrand
17:17were all manipulated into into doing
17:20these things and that's not what I got
17:23at all that's not what I got either I
17:26got that the seeds that we're planed
17:28were long long long ago but they just
17:31maybe left things there for people to
17:33use and see what would happen or they
17:34experimented and created the kunari to
17:37see what would happen and now that they
17:40watched everything unfold they're ready
17:43to come back and make their Mark or
17:46something yeah and yeah L G's choices
17:49were low gain's
17:51choices yeah um the impression I like my
17:56first take on it was the bad take cuz I
17:59just
18:01yeah but like thinking about it like
18:03bartan finding the idol why was the idol
18:07there specifically did they plant it
18:09there maybe or like the architect
18:11happens upon the arch demon like if it
18:14feels like they made the choice to go
18:18forward with their actions but things
18:20were put into place so that that choice
18:23could be made if that makes sense right
18:26that's something else that was glossed
18:27over cuz s is also kind of like puts
18:30things in place and waits for things to
18:32happen or plants certain seeds in his
18:35manipulations and the idol so his dagger
18:38was the red lium Idol but we don't
18:43discover much yeah we don't know what
18:46happen get how did he get it it it felt
18:49like something that they just threw in
18:52to the story because that's what people
18:54were theorizing or wanted but they with
18:57no explanation and it makes sense yeah
19:00no they they they definitely should have
19:02handled that differently um the only
19:04thing I can think of as far as that goes
19:07is we know Merill purified a piece of
19:10the alivian from the blight using blood
19:12magic and since we know
19:14sess uh was kind of forced to indulge in
19:18that um maybe that's how he did it I
19:20don't know yeah plus like I know mshale
19:24knew how to remove the blight from
19:26someone he offers it to one of the the
19:28red
19:30Templars um so it's not like the blight
19:34isn't in some way curable but it's it's
19:38weird they definitely need to expand
19:39upon that yeah um yeah but yeah as far
19:43as people thinking the the executiv
19:46which is the Agents of those across the
19:48sea um thinking they like were
19:52manipulating events specifically in this
19:54way they wanted things to play out this
19:56way I don't I did not get that I think
20:00these the slideshow these were all major
20:03turning points in thetus that they were
20:05just kind of keeping an eye on um until
20:09yeah until thetus was ready to for their
20:12Invasion or
20:13whatever um like they were specifically
20:15waiting for the evanuris to disappear
20:18for the wolf to be defanged all these
20:21events like something exactly yeah it's
20:24the world feels like it's it's weakest I
20:26think the Reapers don't attack
20:30civilizations that aren't evolved or
20:33spaceworthy they only attack the
20:35civilizations that are Advanced so it's
20:38like it's like the Reapers waiting for
20:41this civilization to get to a certain
20:43point and now to come into attack yeah
20:46like they open up with the defeat of the
20:47Elven Gods like okay now that that's
20:50been done but they obviously weren't
20:51manipulating the Elven
20:54Gods so like they were Lane and Meredith
20:57they were just kind of doing their own
21:00thing um and the executiv were keeping
21:04track but this wasn't their
21:10plan are the executiv the Forgotten ones
21:14well that was kind of what I was saying
21:15with uh yeah
21:19geldon I got that impression like the
21:21scene where anaris is
21:24introduced um I can't remember how he
21:26worded it but the way he worded it when
21:28you're like oh you're a forgotten one
21:30he's like yes I'm one of them oh are any
21:32more of you going to turn up he's like
21:34not here or so he says something like
21:37that and I'm
21:38like what does that mean I wish we could
21:40have had another conver like a asked him
21:44more
21:45questions yes like been like hey anars
21:47maybe I might like to join you if you
21:49were to explain yourself a little bit
21:52you know yeah just to try to learn more
21:55and uh and valo it would be funny if she
21:58catches on like oh right yes tell us
22:02maybe we'll change your mind you know
22:04and yes that was missing because the way
22:08they presented anaris
22:11it's
22:12not too similar but not too dissimilar
22:17to the description of the executive inin
22:20night oh yeah dang I didn't even catch
22:22that I thought it was an exec at first
22:27honestly so so there are similarities
22:31but there are also differences and it's
22:34like but they again kind of glossed over
22:39and so we have more questions than
22:42answers and I guess that's where the
22:46story of the game
22:48fails because that's where a lot of
22:51criticism comes in because
22:56it's there's a lot that's well delivered
23:00but there's a lot that's lacking and
23:04that's one of these
23:06[Music]
23:09details well um I want to talk a bit
23:15about uh I guess where thetus is heading
23:21so you know I didn't realize it until
23:25after I beat the game but I was like the
23:27canari
23:29didn't actually do anything in the game
23:32like the Anam sure but they were talvas
23:35shath
23:36now the canari itself the cune had no
23:40role in the
23:41game no exactly we didn't go to partal
23:44we didn't go to saharon and uh I thought
23:47we'd go to Stark
23:49Haven yeah that was that was
23:51disappointing I mean I wanted to go to
23:53Navara City I wanted to see antiva City
23:55I wanted to see more of ran and I do
23:58think will get um more of that in the
24:01next game whenever that is hopefully
24:02it's not another 10 years um knock on
24:05wood
24:09but I guess politics was lacking in the
24:12game um oh uh freaking I guess Dorian
24:17became archon by
24:21default um did you catch that he was he
24:25was referred to as Aron
24:26pavas and my game that didn't happen
24:31really yeah because I did
24:33because what did I CH I don't
24:36remember I think it's the Manus troviso
24:39Choice again I think neither M or or
24:43Dorian became
24:45Aron huh maybe because it never mentions
24:48it maybe it was in better shape because
24:50in my yeah basically the whole magesium
24:52was uh
24:55bled yeah um
24:59but yeah uh
25:01anyway yeah I thought I I would have
25:04appreciated Dorian becoming archon on
25:08his own merits and not by all the other
25:11magisters
25:13dying or on screen on screen yeah no
25:17like there's a there's a lot of things
25:20we can complain about um but as for the
25:23story they told I mean I'm again I'm
25:25happy with it yes that's the thing for
25:28the story for Rook story Rook story is
25:31well delivered yeah rook and I I was
25:35worried that I
25:38wouldn't get attached to Rook because I
25:41was so attached to some of my
25:42inquisitors MH uh three in specific
25:46Maxwell travelan Milana Lavon and Assan
25:50Lavon so I was super attached to those
25:53three inquisitors but I I love theas and
25:57I'm like can I just reroll this
25:59character over and over again you know
26:01like like I I love him and I grew super
26:05attached to him very early on in the
26:08game
26:10and just exploring his story and so for
26:13rook's story it's well it's it's well
26:17made for the character arcs they're well
26:20written but comparing it for example to
26:24Inquisition which is my favorite Dragon
26:26Age game Inquisition is like a huge main
26:30story that drives everything forward
26:33whereas this one it's like good sub
26:36stories that drive the main story
26:39forward you know it's like parts of the
26:42main story are not as well meshed as in
26:46past Dragon Age games I find okay that's
26:50that's where it falls short that's why I
26:54give it an eight on 10 while Inquisition
26:58for me is an 11 on 10 yeah know I I just
27:03I just love Inquisition yeah no I think
27:05it's a Sol it's a solid eight solid
27:08eight um origins in Inquisition would
27:11probably be 10 uh nines and tens but I
27:14don't know where they fall exactly uh
27:16two mixed feelings maybe eight I don't
27:20know anyway
27:22um I W to that kind of brings up
27:24something else I wanted to talk about
27:26which is
27:28okay so they had to write around this
27:30because they didn't include the choices
27:31for some reason well no I'm sorry I
27:33shouldn't say it like that we know the
27:35reason um I just hope they'll correct it
27:37in the future um but our other
27:41Heroes our other Heroes uh the warden
27:45hawk again either of them might be dead
27:48and so they couldn't account for those
27:51choices but it's a pretty easy head for
27:54me it was a pretty easy head Cannon to
27:56just say okay they're dealing with all
27:57this chaos that's happening in the
28:00South just like The Inquisitor now that
28:03soless can heal the
28:05blight well our Warden can be healed
28:09from the blight too gray wardens maybe
28:13that's the cure for the blight maybe
28:14grey wardens don't die
28:16anymore yeah I just want more
28:19information yeah for sure but yeah I
28:24would I mean
28:28yeah like I said a lot of our old Heroes
28:31old companions they're probably just
28:33dealing with stuff down down
28:37south I think the only issue I have with
28:39it is it relies heavily and to be able
28:42to fill in those gaps I'm having do a
28:44lot of head cannoning yeah yeah and that
28:48worries me because of how much that gets
28:50re that mate get Rewritten layer down
28:53the line
28:55like you raise a really good point
28:58because a lot of the gripes that some
29:00people were expressing like for example
29:03just with the lucanus romance is it's
29:05not what they wanted it's not because
29:08it's not what they were head cannoning
29:10because it's not what they were
29:11imagining for different parts of the
29:13story
29:15and my reaction was like okay I'm
29:17letting go of all of this because I'm
29:19going to watch the story that's being
29:21presented to me but I'm seeing all these
29:23gaps where I have to fill things in
29:28and it's like it's it's they're they're
29:31shooting themselves in the foot by doing
29:33that because then we're all going to
29:35have different ideas of what we think
29:38the next story is going to be like we it
29:40to like we had 10 years to all come up
29:43with different ideas of what this story
29:45was going to be and so yes it's very
29:48different from what a lot of us thought
29:50whether we like that difference or not
29:52and the next one with even less filled
29:56in it's is going to be even more
29:59difficult yeah I
30:01honestly I don't know that they can get
30:04around uh limiting our choices
30:08again or I mean I don't think they can
30:10get away with doing that again like
30:13there's too many choices they would have
30:14to write
30:17around it's would be easier to just you
30:21know use the keep system or an
30:24alternative it would honestly be easier
30:27to account for
30:28these different choices than it would be
30:30to try to write around
30:33them yeah I I I still think they it was
30:36a mistake to have it those free choices
30:38and that's I think yeah I'm not sure
30:40anybody thinks that was a good idea yeah
30:43no it it it's like okay it is what it is
30:48but you know there are like at least six
30:51other choices that could have you know
30:57uh legit imately impacted Northern
31:00thetas would have been important to know
31:02yeah yeah for sure uh but we we don't
31:05want to spend too long talking about
31:07that um are there any other major lore
31:10implications um or reveals that we want
31:12to hit oh uh we didn't really talk about
31:14the dwarves at
31:16all um I kind of felt like kelar rock
31:20was a kind of a
31:22tease um we couldn't go back I miss we
31:25couldn't go back I thought we'd be able
31:27to
31:29I so many things
31:32yeah we couldn't go back um we didn't
31:35get to see calar Rock proper they
31:37explained okay karck had to become like
31:40the dark spawn in order to survive them
31:42what does that mean I don't know never
31:45explained that they're just vague I want
31:48more Dwarven
31:52stuff I like what they did show but they
31:55did not show enough I agree is where I
31:57feel
31:58exactly I so in past Dragon Age games I
32:05you know I automattic obviously
32:07connected with elves but I had
32:10difficulty for whatever reason
32:11connecting with dwarves and Dwarven lore
32:15and with the Descent that's when I felt
32:19I really connected with dwarves and
32:21Dwarven lore and searched to read more
32:25about it and learn more about it
32:28and I feel that there was a missed
32:30opportunity in Dragon Age The Veil guard
32:32to really dive more into Dwarven
32:35lore yeah maybe we could have recruited
32:39a Titan to help us fight the
32:41gods oh God don't look at the artbook oh
32:47okay yeah one of the origal concepts was
32:50bringing a Titan into the
32:52fight there there was like a mini baby
32:55Titan somewhere like in the in the
32:58behind the scenes that were like being
33:00developed like where did that happen
33:02with the spider with the hands where's
33:03the spider with the hands I don't like
33:07spiders but where's the spider with the
33:09hands you know like there were all these
33:12things that they were teasing us and and
33:15Cole you asked uh what what they what
33:19else they kind of lost over
33:21mythal uh um on daste being a host for
33:26methal when we're talking with Morgan
33:30before she unlocks the door for us to go
33:32converse with one half of
33:35methal she mentions briefly
33:40that uh you know like she she saw her
33:43mother whatever and one aspect of methal
33:45this one aspect of methal fell in love
33:48with an alamari
33:51Chieftain and well that also that also
33:54applies to
33:56fouth that's what I thought but fth was
34:00in she was married to an alamari
34:03Chieftain but she was in love with
34:05another
34:06man so it's like it's
34:10unclear so it's conf it's confusing
34:13because it glosses over that one's a
34:16part of lore that could have yeah could
34:19have and should have been explored we
34:20talked about that earlier with the just
34:22the Chantry in general um but as far as
34:26that as far as andraste personally goes
34:28uh I'm fine with leaving that vague
34:32yeah but it's another good talking
34:36point um all right is how did how did
34:40you feel
34:41about Kate Mulgrew not returning for
34:46methal uh understandable
34:50yeah I love Kate I love Kate Mulgrew and
34:53she did a fantastic job in the previous
34:55games but uh
34:59it doesn't feel like such a huge loss it
35:02ex it's explained that it's methal and
35:05not fth but
35:08emotionally that connection with that
35:12aspect of fle like the fth aspect of
35:15methal that wasn't lacking in this
35:19game so I felt if it would have been
35:22with Kate
35:24Mulgrew there would have been a more of
35:26an emotional connection
35:28that's
35:29fair oh I've got I've got one how do you
35:32guys feel about the confirmation that
35:34the elves were one
35:37Spirits uh pretty
35:40cool but uh it doesn't really go beyond
35:44that they were the first of the makers
35:47the
35:48spirits but then I want to know if the
35:52maker became nightmare
35:59H wait the the maker became what
36:04nightmare as
36:06in as in the nightmare we fight an
36:09inquisition yeah yeah I have this whole
36:11theory that the maker became
36:15nightmare but like it's who and what is
36:19the
36:20maker my you know like the actual maker
36:24my theory Remains the maker is is the
36:29fade oh and I guess we can talk about
36:32that real fast
36:34um
36:37so what is prayer and what is faith if
36:42not willing something into existence
36:45okay that's not quite accurate but I'm
36:48sorry I'm doing this on the Fly this is
36:49what happens when I don't write a
36:51script
36:53um in the fade will is made manifest
36:58and so when we
37:01so the theory is that the fade has a
37:04will of its own and that will is the
37:06maker and as the Chantry preaches the
37:09maker is kind of indifferent at this
37:11point and that lines up with the
37:13fade um and as people pray to the
37:18maker um and have this faith in him
37:22things are made manifest both in the
37:25fade and um
37:28sometimes the fade can impact the
37:31physical
37:33world oh gosh I should have prepared for
37:35L they saw a spirit of
37:38compassion uh or faith Spirit of Faith
37:40or faith yeah perhaps yeah Spirit of
37:44faith
37:45and you know uh
37:48soless created thas with the veils so he
37:53was like the maker of thetas but not the
37:56maker M of of the chant of
38:00light and
38:02so so then andras the maker because the
38:06spirit of Faith the that approached her
38:10when in her desperation well I mean not
38:15really I mean the the the fade has its
38:17own Consciousness is what is my theory
38:20and that Consciousness is the
38:21maker
38:23um and andraste joining with a spirit of
38:25faith that that's my Theory as to why
38:28her her ashes heal
38:31people
38:32um but
38:37yeah I'm thinking
38:41concept I'm thinking of Isa tunel which
38:45is what when Harding explains that the
38:50Eternal hem us we them everything all
38:53time all places and my first thought was
38:56well that that's that's just God that's
38:59the maker that's what it sounds so maybe
39:02not I'm not saying the Titans are the
39:04maker but like going that far back it
39:07feels like when everything was connected
39:10everything
39:11was the fade was everywhere the Titans
39:15were everywhere everything was just was
39:17and is and will be and
39:20that's it gets weird yeah and that's
39:22sort of the r Raini uh Native religion
39:26which is just like
39:28animism or like the living
39:32universe and in that case who's going to
39:36rise who's the when he rises from
39:38sandel's prophecy because one day he
39:41says one day the magic will come back
39:44all of it so we thought the veil was
39:45going to come down everyone will be just
39:48like they were but we are seeing people
39:51becoming like they were like the dwarves
39:53are becoming like they were originally
39:57and and then and at the end of the
39:59prophecy he says when he rises everyone
40:02will see and we thought it was the dread
40:05wolf or
40:08Elgan so who's
40:11he the the mysterious voice at the end
40:14of the post credit scene well in the
40:16post credit scene maybe maybe when he
40:21rises not to mention like anaris didn't
40:24die he went back to some Far corner of
40:26the f
40:28yeah just like the the formless one and
40:30the other forbidden ones exactly because
40:33we find a codex from imell so imell
40:36exists in the fade so the Forbidden ones
40:39are still in existence
40:43somewhere which means that whoever we
40:45left in the fade is still in existence
40:49somewhere H
40:54aloud stoud the mustache M but like
40:58like the evanuris banished either the
41:01Forgotten ones or the Forbidden ones
41:04what if they banished them across the
41:06sea like literally and that's where
41:09they've
41:10been that's a
41:13thought and I don't I don't know and so
41:16then were the Forgotten
41:19ones part of the first Children of the
41:24maker the first Children of the fade cuz
41:27they were elves
41:29too well gildon I guess identifies more
41:32with the uh elves that came later the
41:35ones that weren't Spirits I thought
41:37Solus trick them and lock them up too
41:41well that's never confirmed by
41:44soless yeah he never mentions them I
41:46don't think he mentions other gods that
41:49hisory he mentions other gods that
41:52history
41:55forgot oh yeah doesn't he say that there
41:58were other evanuris that he defeated
42:00it's just like the ones that were locked
42:03away that were the ones he
42:04couldn't right I don't know I need to go
42:07rewatch so much it confus it really gets
42:10confusing yeah and it's getting late so
42:13I think that's where we'll call it uh
42:15thank you all for joining us uh
42:18throughout all these uh talks if if this
42:21is the first one or second you're
42:22watching uh these other two lovely
42:24ladies have uh discussions over on their
42:27channel so go check them out um for now
42:31we'll see you
42:33later bye bye byebye

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