Natascha Kampusch: In Her Own Words | True Crime Documentary — Transcript
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- 0:17Strasshof
- 0:19a prosperous suburb of Vienna.
- 0:22Natasha Kampusch was imprisoned here for
- 0:248 and 1/2 years.
- 0:27This is her story.
- 0:30What I've learned about people is this.
- 0:33No one is infallible.
- 0:35And anyone can find themselves in a
- 0:38position where they lose control of
- 0:40their lives.
- 0:45That's true for the kidnapper and it's
- 0:47true for me.
- 0:50From the moment I was kidnapped, I still
- 0:53had control of my thoughts,
- 0:55but I couldn't do anything about the
- 0:57world outside.
- 1:03And the perpetrator had blown a couple
- 1:05of fuses in his head.
- 1:09And he couldn't control his life,
- 1:11either.
- 1:13Or he wouldn't have done what he did.
- 1:26I'm an outcast.
- 1:28I have a sign on my forehead that says
- 1:31"Crime victim."
- 1:36I think everyone has preconceptions
- 1:38about me.
- 1:40Maybe when I'm older, people will forget
- 1:43what happened to me.
- 1:50Since yesterday evening, a 10-year-old
- 1:52girl has been missing in Vienna's
- 1:54Donaustadt district. Natasha wears
- 1:56glasses. She's 1 m 45 tall, has light
- 1:59brown hair with a fringe and blue eyes.
- 2:02She's been missing for more than 34
- 2:04hours. All efforts to locate her have
- 2:06been unsuccessful and the police are
- 2:08widening their search.
- 2:12My mother always said,
- 2:14"Never part after an argument because
- 2:17something could happen to one of us
- 2:20and we'd never see each other again."
- 2:24And then it happened.
- 2:30She rarely went to school alone,
- 2:32but on that particular day she did.
- 2:35I watched her from the window as she
- 2:37left and walked towards the shopping
- 2:39center.
- 2:40Then she disappeared
- 2:42and that was it.
- 2:49I was almost halfway to school
- 2:52when I saw a man in the distance
- 2:54standing in front of a white van
- 2:58as though he were waiting for someone.
- 3:02I wanted to cross the street
- 3:06but then I decided
- 3:08to keep going straight.
- 3:15When I came nearer, he came towards me.
- 3:22Grabbed me and
- 3:25dragged me into his truck.
- 3:34I kind of knew the neighborhood from
- 3:36that angle cuz when I used to drive home
- 3:39with my mother, I'd see the treetops and
- 3:41telephone poles.
- 3:43So I knew roughly where we were headed.
- 3:50Then he drove the white truck up to his
- 3:52garage,
- 3:54wrapped me in a blue blanket and carried
- 3:56me into the house.
- 4:00He carried me downstairs
- 4:02and put me down for a moment.
- 4:07I didn't know it then,
- 4:09but he'd opened everything up.
- 4:12Then he dragged me
- 4:15and carried me in.
- 4:18Then he left me in the cellar
- 4:20on the floor
- 4:22in the dark.
- 4:32Natasha was always on time, so when she
- 4:34was 10 minutes late, I thought to
- 4:36myself, "Where is she? I'm going to call
- 4:39the childminder."
- 4:41But no one answered. I called half an
- 4:44hour later and they told me she'd never
- 4:46arrived.
- 4:48At that moment, I nearly fainted. I knew
- 4:51something had happened.
- 4:56That first day, he brought me a
- 4:57mattress.
- 4:59It was just 5 cm thick and made of foam
- 5:03rubber.
- 5:04I only had the same blue blanket to
- 5:06cover me
- 5:08and I had to use my jacket as a pillow.
- 5:12I wanted to keep my dress on day and
- 5:14night.
- 5:16I didn't want to give up anything
- 5:19or reveal anything about myself.
- 5:23He'd taken away my school bag
- 5:26and he burned my shoes in the first few
- 5:29days.
- 5:32He said I wouldn't need them.
- 5:38A massive search is launched by police
- 5:41starting at the housing estate where
- 5:42Natacha lives.
- 5:46Concerned citizens are calling in with
- 5:48information.
- 5:53Soon, the police have evidence of an
- 5:56abduction.
- 5:59Austrian police are investigating the
- 6:01disappearance of 10-year-old Natascha
- 6:03Kampusch, who was last seen walking to
- 6:05school on March the 2nd.
- 6:10She had about a 2-km walk to school,
- 6:12starting from her home on the Rennbahn
- 6:14estate.
- 6:17Halfway along, there's a roundabout on
- 6:19the Meidling Gasse.
- 6:22At approximately 7:20 a.m. that Monday
- 6:24morning, a girl standing at the
- 6:26roundabout says she saw another girl in
- 6:29a red anorak being forced into a white
- 6:31truck parked on the right side of the
- 6:33road.
- 6:40Years later, the entrance to Natascha's
- 6:42cell is discovered in the garage beneath
- 6:44a disguised trapdoor.
- 6:49Down below, a heavy cupboard and tires
- 6:52must be shoved aside.
- 6:58They reveal a safe, 70 cm high, screwed
- 7:01flush with the wall.
- 7:07Behind that, the half-meter-thick wall
- 7:09has been hollowed out.
- 7:14To get in, you had to crawl backwards
- 7:16through the hole.
- 7:19And then close a 150-kilo steel and
- 7:22concrete door behind you.
- 7:29Finally, you turned left to open the
- 7:31double wooden doors and step down into a
- 7:345-m² cell.
- 7:37The effort was enormous.
- 7:39Pushing everything aside and opening
- 7:42everything up.
- 7:43If anything had happened to him
- 7:46or he had been taken ill,
- 7:49he'd never
- 7:50have got it open.
- 7:54I would have been sealed up like an
- 7:56Egyptian pharaoh, buried alive, dead and
- 8:00mummified.
- 8:04The statement by the young witness
- 8:05triggers an enormous investigation.
- 8:09Police question 1,520
- 8:11owners of white trucks and 650 other
- 8:14people,
- 8:16including a man from Strasshof, half an
- 8:18hour from the center of Vienna,
- 8:21a township with one main street,
- 8:24no real center,
- 8:26and 8,000 inhabitants.
- 8:35The man's name is Wolfgang Priklopil, an
- 8:38unmarried 35-year-old communications
- 8:40technician with no criminal record.
- 8:45Priklopil lives in his mother's house,
- 8:48where two investigators question him.
- 8:51His truck is full of rubble from a
- 8:52building site.
- 8:54He claims to have been at home on the
- 8:55day of the crime, but has no one to
- 8:57confirm his story.
- 8:59Police have no probable cause to search
- 9:01his house.
- 9:02They take Polaroids of his truck, write
- 9:05a report, and file it.
- 9:10I met Herr Priklopil at Siemens.
- 9:14We did our vocational training there in
- 9:17the early 1980s.
- 9:19And we both worked there.
- 9:22Later, I set up a company renovating
- 9:25apartments, and I hired Herr Priklopil
- 9:29because I knew he was a reliable person.
- 9:39Later on, installed a timer.
- 9:42The lights went on at a particular time
- 9:45and then it went dark like in a prison
- 9:49where the lights go off at 8:00 p.m.
- 9:55Every drop of water meant more mold.
- 9:59It was humid and wet in the little room.
- 10:02And there were all kinds of insects
- 10:04there.
- 10:05It smelled musty.
- 10:10It was
- 10:11very cold and damp.
- 10:14Really disgusting.
- 10:22And the ventilator was a kind of
- 10:25torture.
- 10:28It was very loud.
- 10:36And when it rotated for a long time and
- 10:38became hot
- 10:40the blades began to melt and then it
- 10:42didn't just make that droning noise
- 10:46but another annoying sound.
- 10:57That went on until the fan was broken.
- 11:01Special investigators in Vienna receive
- 11:03a second tip-off about Wolfgang
- 11:05Priklopil 8 days after his initial
- 11:07questioning.
- 11:09The informant is a police dog handler
- 11:11who lives in Strasshof.
- 11:13He reports on a neighbor, a reclusive
- 11:15man who owns a white truck.
- 11:18He's a shy loner and protects his house
- 11:20with electronic surveillance systems.
- 11:24He may store weapons there
- 11:25and he's thought to have a sexual
- 11:27interest in children.
- 11:29The officer has never learned his name
- 11:31but provides a description.
- 11:33The special task force immediately
- 11:35orders local police in Strasshof to
- 11:37check the man's address.
- 11:43Then a fax arrives.
- 11:45Wolfgang Priklopil isn't registered as
- 11:47living at the house. His mother is.
- 11:49Priklopil is only staying there.
- 11:52His truck was checked on the 6th of
- 11:54April.
- 11:56The tip-off is filed and forgotten.
- 12:02Sometimes when I was giving her pictures
- 12:04a dust in the living room,
- 12:07I would hold them to my chest or kiss
- 12:09them and I said,
- 12:12"Don't give up. You're a strong, strong
- 12:14child."
- 12:24At first, I didn't have to help him with
- 12:26his work because he was afraid that if I
- 12:30came upstairs, I might attack him with
- 12:33the tools.
- 12:36But when he was sure I was too scared of
- 12:39him to run away,
- 12:43he let me up. He always made sure I
- 12:45couldn't run away. He threatened me and
- 12:48kept everything locked.
- 12:52It must have been incredibly gratifying
- 12:55for him to keep someone captive, someone
- 12:59who was there for him alone, someone not
- 13:01even his mother or grandmother knew
- 13:03about.
- 13:04Seit dem Zeitpunkt,
- 13:06From the time that Natascha Kampusch was
- 13:09kidnapped, I visited his house about
- 13:12twice a year,
- 13:13but never noticed anything unusual.
- 13:19Herr Priklopil was very concerned with
- 13:22hygiene and cleanliness.
- 13:28He was obsessed with
- 13:30and of course he was constantly wiping
- 13:32off things that I might have touched.
- 13:35I wasn't really supposed to touch
- 13:37anything because of course fingerprints
- 13:39leave ugly greasy marks.
- 13:43He would punish me if he found a
- 13:45fingerprint anywhere.
- 13:47Not only because it was potentially
- 13:49dangerous to find my fingerprints in his
- 13:52house
- 13:53but because he hated the look of
- 13:55fingerprints on his household surfaces.
- 14:03There were times when the torture and
- 14:06the humiliation were so bad
- 14:08that I ran to the window
- 14:11and shouted for the police. Then he
- 14:13grabbed me really roughly and choked me
- 14:16and hit me.
- 14:20Going hungry was dreadful.
- 14:23You almost feel like a drug addict
- 14:25and ask yourself
- 14:28why am I hungry? Why do I even feel
- 14:30hunger?
- 14:31Why can't I manage without food?
- 14:40He would show me all the food that was
- 14:43before he gave me anything to eat. But
- 14:45then he'd only cut off a tiny piece for
- 14:48me.
- 14:49He decided exactly how much I got to
- 14:51eat.
- 14:53He never let me have what I wanted or as
- 14:55much as I wanted because he said
- 14:59I moved around so little in the cell
- 15:01I didn't need it.
- 15:08He always forced me to look him straight
- 15:11in the eye or look down at the ground in
- 15:14a very submissive way.
- 15:16Of course I couldn't do that for long
- 15:19because I won't be forced to do anything
- 15:21against my will.
- 15:27He just liked having someone to
- 15:29dominate.
- 15:30And the more I resisted and answered
- 15:32back,
- 15:34the more satisfying it was for him to
- 15:36put me down and dominate me
- 15:38to boost his own self-esteem.
- 15:44He despised people.
- 15:46He hated his neighbors.
- 15:49Although he was nice to them.
- 15:51He hated his surroundings and society.
- 15:55So he pretended to be a conformist.
- 16:04I appreciated the fact that he was
- 16:07always polite and very reliable.
- 16:10On the other hand, he was rather shy and
- 16:13a bit introverted.
- 16:18He always tried not to offend anyone.
- 16:20And I'm sure he was a very obliging
- 16:23person, neighbor, son, and grandson.
- 16:31After a few years, I could go out into
- 16:33the garden with him.
- 16:35Sometimes at night for 5 or 10 minutes.
- 16:39I was so happy I could touch the trees
- 16:42and the hedge, and I could feel the
- 16:44grass and the wind on my skin.
- 16:46Because of course
- 16:48there's no wind in the house.
- 16:51And it was so good.
- 16:53I asked him if I could take a twig from
- 16:56the hedge back down to my cell
- 16:59so I could always think about it
- 17:02as a kind of memento.
- 17:04Who takes something from the garden into
- 17:07the house
- 17:08to remember it by?
- 17:16The first few years I baked a cake for
- 17:19Natasha on few years I baked a cake for
- 17:21Natasha on her birthday
- 17:23and chucked it away after a couple of
- 17:25weeks.
- 17:27But I always tried to keep Natasha alive
- 17:29in my mind to include her wherever she
- 17:32was.
- 17:33I tried to let her know somehow, maybe
- 17:36by telepathy,
- 17:37that I was thinking of her.
- 17:42And on my birthday I always remembered
- 17:45all the birthdays I had celebrated with
- 17:48lots of other kids and with a special
- 17:51cake.
- 17:57And how different it is now
- 17:59all alone in the cell.
- 18:04The kind of crime he committed
- 18:07is usually the result of some illness or
- 18:10injury.
- 18:12And the person can't usually do anything
- 18:14about an illness.
- 18:20But this criminal had a conscience.
- 18:23He still had a conscience.
- 18:26He was aware on some level of what he
- 18:29was doing.
- 18:31You could see that he was weak and
- 18:34unstable
- 18:35because of some kind of illness or
- 18:37injury.
- 18:40He had become so unstable
- 18:43that he saw the kidnapping as a solution
- 18:46to his problems.
- 18:49It didn't matter what the problems
- 18:51really were
- 18:52or how he thought this could help. But
- 18:55he did see it as a solution.
- 19:02And
- 19:04that actually made me feel
- 19:06pity and compassion for him.
- 19:10Because many people are looking for the
- 19:12meaning of their
- 19:14Some commit suicide.
- 19:17Others take a wrong turning.
- 19:20I could have committed suicide.
- 19:23Thought it was much better to be dead
- 19:25than locked up for good.
- 19:27But that day, thank heavens, I found the
- 19:29courage and just ran away.
- 19:41At 1:04 p.m. today, a confused young
- 19:43girl was discovered in a garden in the
- 19:45town of Strasshof.
- 19:47When police arrived, the young woman
- 19:49claimed to be Natascha Kampusch.
- 19:54He was talking on his cell phone.
- 19:56And he'd told me to vacuum the van.
- 20:00Which I was doing.
- 20:07The noise was so loud that he walked
- 20:09over to the swimming pool.
- 20:11Maybe 11 m away.
- 20:14He'd left the garden gate open.
- 20:16Unlocked.
- 20:20So I grabbed the opportunity.
- 20:22I left the vacuum cleaner on.
- 20:25And ran away.
- 20:26Really, really fast.
- 20:28As fast as my legs could carry me.
- 20:32When they searched the house, police
- 20:34found a prison cell in the garage.
- 20:37It has just been reported that the
- 20:39alleged kidnapper has committed suicide.
- 20:44Then apparently he drove to the train
- 20:46station.
- 20:47And he laid down on the tracks.
- 20:49Then the train ran over his head. Then
- 20:52he was dead.
- 21:00Natascha Kampusch becomes a media star
- 21:02overnight. Darling of the world's press.
- 21:05The missed tip-off from the police dog
- 21:07handler causes a political storm.
- 21:10There's talk of cover-ups, mistakes,
- 21:12half-truths. Austria's scandal-wracked
- 21:15government resigns 2 years later. The
- 21:17papers spread rumors of sadomasochism,
- 21:20child pornography rings, and possible
- 21:23accomplices.
- 21:25The press asked me straight out whether
- 21:27I was raped or sexually abused, and that
- 21:30kind of thing.
- 21:32But in my eyes, the way the media
- 21:34treated me after my escape is a form of
- 21:37abuse, too.
- 21:39And they should be punished for it.
- 21:45In many people, I trigger some kind of
- 21:48unconscious aggression.
- 21:50Maybe the whole crime and what happened
- 21:52to me triggers aggression.
- 21:55And I'm the only one they can still
- 21:57reach, and so it all lands on me.
- 22:03As I took right from the start,
- 22:06I said, "I'm not a victim."
- 22:08Because I knew that if I present myself
- 22:11as a victim, and show everyone how
- 22:13terrible it was, they'd never accept me
- 22:16as a normal person again.
- 22:18They'd say,
- 22:19"You,
- 22:20you've debased yourself so far. What do
- 22:23you think you're doing here?
- 22:25Go back where you came from. Go back
- 22:28down to your filthy swamp."
- 22:30That's how most people are. That's how
- 22:33they think.
- 22:38I just want people to treat me normally.
- 22:43I deserve a chance like anyone else. I
- 22:47think people should be glad I halfway
- 22:49survived all this.
- 23:09>> Mhm.
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