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  1. 0:17Strasshof
  2. 0:19a prosperous suburb of Vienna.
  3. 0:22Natasha Kampusch was imprisoned here for
  4. 0:248 and 1/2 years.
  5. 0:27This is her story.
  6. 0:30What I've learned about people is this.
  7. 0:33No one is infallible.
  8. 0:35And anyone can find themselves in a
  9. 0:38position where they lose control of
  10. 0:40their lives.
  11. 0:45That's true for the kidnapper and it's
  12. 0:47true for me.
  13. 0:50From the moment I was kidnapped, I still
  14. 0:53had control of my thoughts,
  15. 0:55but I couldn't do anything about the
  16. 0:57world outside.
  17. 1:03And the perpetrator had blown a couple
  18. 1:05of fuses in his head.
  19. 1:09And he couldn't control his life,
  20. 1:11either.
  21. 1:13Or he wouldn't have done what he did.
  22. 1:26I'm an outcast.
  23. 1:28I have a sign on my forehead that says
  24. 1:31"Crime victim."
  25. 1:36I think everyone has preconceptions
  26. 1:38about me.
  27. 1:40Maybe when I'm older, people will forget
  28. 1:43what happened to me.
  29. 1:50Since yesterday evening, a 10-year-old
  30. 1:52girl has been missing in Vienna's
  31. 1:54Donaustadt district. Natasha wears
  32. 1:56glasses. She's 1 m 45 tall, has light
  33. 1:59brown hair with a fringe and blue eyes.
  34. 2:02She's been missing for more than 34
  35. 2:04hours. All efforts to locate her have
  36. 2:06been unsuccessful and the police are
  37. 2:08widening their search.
  38. 2:12My mother always said,
  39. 2:14"Never part after an argument because
  40. 2:17something could happen to one of us
  41. 2:20and we'd never see each other again."
  42. 2:24And then it happened.
  43. 2:30She rarely went to school alone,
  44. 2:32but on that particular day she did.
  45. 2:35I watched her from the window as she
  46. 2:37left and walked towards the shopping
  47. 2:39center.
  48. 2:40Then she disappeared
  49. 2:42and that was it.
  50. 2:49I was almost halfway to school
  51. 2:52when I saw a man in the distance
  52. 2:54standing in front of a white van
  53. 2:58as though he were waiting for someone.
  54. 3:02I wanted to cross the street
  55. 3:06but then I decided
  56. 3:08to keep going straight.
  57. 3:15When I came nearer, he came towards me.
  58. 3:22Grabbed me and
  59. 3:25dragged me into his truck.
  60. 3:34I kind of knew the neighborhood from
  61. 3:36that angle cuz when I used to drive home
  62. 3:39with my mother, I'd see the treetops and
  63. 3:41telephone poles.
  64. 3:43So I knew roughly where we were headed.
  65. 3:50Then he drove the white truck up to his
  66. 3:52garage,
  67. 3:54wrapped me in a blue blanket and carried
  68. 3:56me into the house.
  69. 4:00He carried me downstairs
  70. 4:02and put me down for a moment.
  71. 4:07I didn't know it then,
  72. 4:09but he'd opened everything up.
  73. 4:12Then he dragged me
  74. 4:15and carried me in.
  75. 4:18Then he left me in the cellar
  76. 4:20on the floor
  77. 4:22in the dark.
  78. 4:32Natasha was always on time, so when she
  79. 4:34was 10 minutes late, I thought to
  80. 4:36myself, "Where is she? I'm going to call
  81. 4:39the childminder."
  82. 4:41But no one answered. I called half an
  83. 4:44hour later and they told me she'd never
  84. 4:46arrived.
  85. 4:48At that moment, I nearly fainted. I knew
  86. 4:51something had happened.
  87. 4:56That first day, he brought me a
  88. 4:57mattress.
  89. 4:59It was just 5 cm thick and made of foam
  90. 5:03rubber.
  91. 5:04I only had the same blue blanket to
  92. 5:06cover me
  93. 5:08and I had to use my jacket as a pillow.
  94. 5:12I wanted to keep my dress on day and
  95. 5:14night.
  96. 5:16I didn't want to give up anything
  97. 5:19or reveal anything about myself.
  98. 5:23He'd taken away my school bag
  99. 5:26and he burned my shoes in the first few
  100. 5:29days.
  101. 5:32He said I wouldn't need them.
  102. 5:38A massive search is launched by police
  103. 5:41starting at the housing estate where
  104. 5:42Natacha lives.
  105. 5:46Concerned citizens are calling in with
  106. 5:48information.
  107. 5:53Soon, the police have evidence of an
  108. 5:56abduction.
  109. 5:59Austrian police are investigating the
  110. 6:01disappearance of 10-year-old Natascha
  111. 6:03Kampusch, who was last seen walking to
  112. 6:05school on March the 2nd.
  113. 6:10She had about a 2-km walk to school,
  114. 6:12starting from her home on the Rennbahn
  115. 6:14estate.
  116. 6:17Halfway along, there's a roundabout on
  117. 6:19the Meidling Gasse.
  118. 6:22At approximately 7:20 a.m. that Monday
  119. 6:24morning, a girl standing at the
  120. 6:26roundabout says she saw another girl in
  121. 6:29a red anorak being forced into a white
  122. 6:31truck parked on the right side of the
  123. 6:33road.
  124. 6:40Years later, the entrance to Natascha's
  125. 6:42cell is discovered in the garage beneath
  126. 6:44a disguised trapdoor.
  127. 6:49Down below, a heavy cupboard and tires
  128. 6:52must be shoved aside.
  129. 6:58They reveal a safe, 70 cm high, screwed
  130. 7:01flush with the wall.
  131. 7:07Behind that, the half-meter-thick wall
  132. 7:09has been hollowed out.
  133. 7:14To get in, you had to crawl backwards
  134. 7:16through the hole.
  135. 7:19And then close a 150-kilo steel and
  136. 7:22concrete door behind you.
  137. 7:29Finally, you turned left to open the
  138. 7:31double wooden doors and step down into a
  139. 7:345-m² cell.
  140. 7:37The effort was enormous.
  141. 7:39Pushing everything aside and opening
  142. 7:42everything up.
  143. 7:43If anything had happened to him
  144. 7:46or he had been taken ill,
  145. 7:49he'd never
  146. 7:50have got it open.
  147. 7:54I would have been sealed up like an
  148. 7:56Egyptian pharaoh, buried alive, dead and
  149. 8:00mummified.
  150. 8:04The statement by the young witness
  151. 8:05triggers an enormous investigation.
  152. 8:09Police question 1,520
  153. 8:11owners of white trucks and 650 other
  154. 8:14people,
  155. 8:16including a man from Strasshof, half an
  156. 8:18hour from the center of Vienna,
  157. 8:21a township with one main street,
  158. 8:24no real center,
  159. 8:26and 8,000 inhabitants.
  160. 8:35The man's name is Wolfgang Priklopil, an
  161. 8:38unmarried 35-year-old communications
  162. 8:40technician with no criminal record.
  163. 8:45Priklopil lives in his mother's house,
  164. 8:48where two investigators question him.
  165. 8:51His truck is full of rubble from a
  166. 8:52building site.
  167. 8:54He claims to have been at home on the
  168. 8:55day of the crime, but has no one to
  169. 8:57confirm his story.
  170. 8:59Police have no probable cause to search
  171. 9:01his house.
  172. 9:02They take Polaroids of his truck, write
  173. 9:05a report, and file it.
  174. 9:10I met Herr Priklopil at Siemens.
  175. 9:14We did our vocational training there in
  176. 9:17the early 1980s.
  177. 9:19And we both worked there.
  178. 9:22Later, I set up a company renovating
  179. 9:25apartments, and I hired Herr Priklopil
  180. 9:29because I knew he was a reliable person.
  181. 9:39Later on, installed a timer.
  182. 9:42The lights went on at a particular time
  183. 9:45and then it went dark like in a prison
  184. 9:49where the lights go off at 8:00 p.m.
  185. 9:55Every drop of water meant more mold.
  186. 9:59It was humid and wet in the little room.
  187. 10:02And there were all kinds of insects
  188. 10:04there.
  189. 10:05It smelled musty.
  190. 10:10It was
  191. 10:11very cold and damp.
  192. 10:14Really disgusting.
  193. 10:22And the ventilator was a kind of
  194. 10:25torture.
  195. 10:28It was very loud.
  196. 10:36And when it rotated for a long time and
  197. 10:38became hot
  198. 10:40the blades began to melt and then it
  199. 10:42didn't just make that droning noise
  200. 10:46but another annoying sound.
  201. 10:57That went on until the fan was broken.
  202. 11:01Special investigators in Vienna receive
  203. 11:03a second tip-off about Wolfgang
  204. 11:05Priklopil 8 days after his initial
  205. 11:07questioning.
  206. 11:09The informant is a police dog handler
  207. 11:11who lives in Strasshof.
  208. 11:13He reports on a neighbor, a reclusive
  209. 11:15man who owns a white truck.
  210. 11:18He's a shy loner and protects his house
  211. 11:20with electronic surveillance systems.
  212. 11:24He may store weapons there
  213. 11:25and he's thought to have a sexual
  214. 11:27interest in children.
  215. 11:29The officer has never learned his name
  216. 11:31but provides a description.
  217. 11:33The special task force immediately
  218. 11:35orders local police in Strasshof to
  219. 11:37check the man's address.
  220. 11:43Then a fax arrives.
  221. 11:45Wolfgang Priklopil isn't registered as
  222. 11:47living at the house. His mother is.
  223. 11:49Priklopil is only staying there.
  224. 11:52His truck was checked on the 6th of
  225. 11:54April.
  226. 11:56The tip-off is filed and forgotten.
  227. 12:02Sometimes when I was giving her pictures
  228. 12:04a dust in the living room,
  229. 12:07I would hold them to my chest or kiss
  230. 12:09them and I said,
  231. 12:12"Don't give up. You're a strong, strong
  232. 12:14child."
  233. 12:24At first, I didn't have to help him with
  234. 12:26his work because he was afraid that if I
  235. 12:30came upstairs, I might attack him with
  236. 12:33the tools.
  237. 12:36But when he was sure I was too scared of
  238. 12:39him to run away,
  239. 12:43he let me up. He always made sure I
  240. 12:45couldn't run away. He threatened me and
  241. 12:48kept everything locked.
  242. 12:52It must have been incredibly gratifying
  243. 12:55for him to keep someone captive, someone
  244. 12:59who was there for him alone, someone not
  245. 13:01even his mother or grandmother knew
  246. 13:03about.
  247. 13:04Seit dem Zeitpunkt,
  248. 13:06From the time that Natascha Kampusch was
  249. 13:09kidnapped, I visited his house about
  250. 13:12twice a year,
  251. 13:13but never noticed anything unusual.
  252. 13:19Herr Priklopil was very concerned with
  253. 13:22hygiene and cleanliness.
  254. 13:28He was obsessed with
  255. 13:30and of course he was constantly wiping
  256. 13:32off things that I might have touched.
  257. 13:35I wasn't really supposed to touch
  258. 13:37anything because of course fingerprints
  259. 13:39leave ugly greasy marks.
  260. 13:43He would punish me if he found a
  261. 13:45fingerprint anywhere.
  262. 13:47Not only because it was potentially
  263. 13:49dangerous to find my fingerprints in his
  264. 13:52house
  265. 13:53but because he hated the look of
  266. 13:55fingerprints on his household surfaces.
  267. 14:03There were times when the torture and
  268. 14:06the humiliation were so bad
  269. 14:08that I ran to the window
  270. 14:11and shouted for the police. Then he
  271. 14:13grabbed me really roughly and choked me
  272. 14:16and hit me.
  273. 14:20Going hungry was dreadful.
  274. 14:23You almost feel like a drug addict
  275. 14:25and ask yourself
  276. 14:28why am I hungry? Why do I even feel
  277. 14:30hunger?
  278. 14:31Why can't I manage without food?
  279. 14:40He would show me all the food that was
  280. 14:43before he gave me anything to eat. But
  281. 14:45then he'd only cut off a tiny piece for
  282. 14:48me.
  283. 14:49He decided exactly how much I got to
  284. 14:51eat.
  285. 14:53He never let me have what I wanted or as
  286. 14:55much as I wanted because he said
  287. 14:59I moved around so little in the cell
  288. 15:01I didn't need it.
  289. 15:08He always forced me to look him straight
  290. 15:11in the eye or look down at the ground in
  291. 15:14a very submissive way.
  292. 15:16Of course I couldn't do that for long
  293. 15:19because I won't be forced to do anything
  294. 15:21against my will.
  295. 15:27He just liked having someone to
  296. 15:29dominate.
  297. 15:30And the more I resisted and answered
  298. 15:32back,
  299. 15:34the more satisfying it was for him to
  300. 15:36put me down and dominate me
  301. 15:38to boost his own self-esteem.
  302. 15:44He despised people.
  303. 15:46He hated his neighbors.
  304. 15:49Although he was nice to them.
  305. 15:51He hated his surroundings and society.
  306. 15:55So he pretended to be a conformist.
  307. 16:04I appreciated the fact that he was
  308. 16:07always polite and very reliable.
  309. 16:10On the other hand, he was rather shy and
  310. 16:13a bit introverted.
  311. 16:18He always tried not to offend anyone.
  312. 16:20And I'm sure he was a very obliging
  313. 16:23person, neighbor, son, and grandson.
  314. 16:31After a few years, I could go out into
  315. 16:33the garden with him.
  316. 16:35Sometimes at night for 5 or 10 minutes.
  317. 16:39I was so happy I could touch the trees
  318. 16:42and the hedge, and I could feel the
  319. 16:44grass and the wind on my skin.
  320. 16:46Because of course
  321. 16:48there's no wind in the house.
  322. 16:51And it was so good.
  323. 16:53I asked him if I could take a twig from
  324. 16:56the hedge back down to my cell
  325. 16:59so I could always think about it
  326. 17:02as a kind of memento.
  327. 17:04Who takes something from the garden into
  328. 17:07the house
  329. 17:08to remember it by?
  330. 17:16The first few years I baked a cake for
  331. 17:19Natasha on few years I baked a cake for
  332. 17:21Natasha on her birthday
  333. 17:23and chucked it away after a couple of
  334. 17:25weeks.
  335. 17:27But I always tried to keep Natasha alive
  336. 17:29in my mind to include her wherever she
  337. 17:32was.
  338. 17:33I tried to let her know somehow, maybe
  339. 17:36by telepathy,
  340. 17:37that I was thinking of her.
  341. 17:42And on my birthday I always remembered
  342. 17:45all the birthdays I had celebrated with
  343. 17:48lots of other kids and with a special
  344. 17:51cake.
  345. 17:57And how different it is now
  346. 17:59all alone in the cell.
  347. 18:04The kind of crime he committed
  348. 18:07is usually the result of some illness or
  349. 18:10injury.
  350. 18:12And the person can't usually do anything
  351. 18:14about an illness.
  352. 18:20But this criminal had a conscience.
  353. 18:23He still had a conscience.
  354. 18:26He was aware on some level of what he
  355. 18:29was doing.
  356. 18:31You could see that he was weak and
  357. 18:34unstable
  358. 18:35because of some kind of illness or
  359. 18:37injury.
  360. 18:40He had become so unstable
  361. 18:43that he saw the kidnapping as a solution
  362. 18:46to his problems.
  363. 18:49It didn't matter what the problems
  364. 18:51really were
  365. 18:52or how he thought this could help. But
  366. 18:55he did see it as a solution.
  367. 19:02And
  368. 19:04that actually made me feel
  369. 19:06pity and compassion for him.
  370. 19:10Because many people are looking for the
  371. 19:12meaning of their
  372. 19:14Some commit suicide.
  373. 19:17Others take a wrong turning.
  374. 19:20I could have committed suicide.
  375. 19:23Thought it was much better to be dead
  376. 19:25than locked up for good.
  377. 19:27But that day, thank heavens, I found the
  378. 19:29courage and just ran away.
  379. 19:41At 1:04 p.m. today, a confused young
  380. 19:43girl was discovered in a garden in the
  381. 19:45town of Strasshof.
  382. 19:47When police arrived, the young woman
  383. 19:49claimed to be Natascha Kampusch.
  384. 19:54He was talking on his cell phone.
  385. 19:56And he'd told me to vacuum the van.
  386. 20:00Which I was doing.
  387. 20:07The noise was so loud that he walked
  388. 20:09over to the swimming pool.
  389. 20:11Maybe 11 m away.
  390. 20:14He'd left the garden gate open.
  391. 20:16Unlocked.
  392. 20:20So I grabbed the opportunity.
  393. 20:22I left the vacuum cleaner on.
  394. 20:25And ran away.
  395. 20:26Really, really fast.
  396. 20:28As fast as my legs could carry me.
  397. 20:32When they searched the house, police
  398. 20:34found a prison cell in the garage.
  399. 20:37It has just been reported that the
  400. 20:39alleged kidnapper has committed suicide.
  401. 20:44Then apparently he drove to the train
  402. 20:46station.
  403. 20:47And he laid down on the tracks.
  404. 20:49Then the train ran over his head. Then
  405. 20:52he was dead.
  406. 21:00Natascha Kampusch becomes a media star
  407. 21:02overnight. Darling of the world's press.
  408. 21:05The missed tip-off from the police dog
  409. 21:07handler causes a political storm.
  410. 21:10There's talk of cover-ups, mistakes,
  411. 21:12half-truths. Austria's scandal-wracked
  412. 21:15government resigns 2 years later. The
  413. 21:17papers spread rumors of sadomasochism,
  414. 21:20child pornography rings, and possible
  415. 21:23accomplices.
  416. 21:25The press asked me straight out whether
  417. 21:27I was raped or sexually abused, and that
  418. 21:30kind of thing.
  419. 21:32But in my eyes, the way the media
  420. 21:34treated me after my escape is a form of
  421. 21:37abuse, too.
  422. 21:39And they should be punished for it.
  423. 21:45In many people, I trigger some kind of
  424. 21:48unconscious aggression.
  425. 21:50Maybe the whole crime and what happened
  426. 21:52to me triggers aggression.
  427. 21:55And I'm the only one they can still
  428. 21:57reach, and so it all lands on me.
  429. 22:03As I took right from the start,
  430. 22:06I said, "I'm not a victim."
  431. 22:08Because I knew that if I present myself
  432. 22:11as a victim, and show everyone how
  433. 22:13terrible it was, they'd never accept me
  434. 22:16as a normal person again.
  435. 22:18They'd say,
  436. 22:19"You,
  437. 22:20you've debased yourself so far. What do
  438. 22:23you think you're doing here?
  439. 22:25Go back where you came from. Go back
  440. 22:28down to your filthy swamp."
  441. 22:30That's how most people are. That's how
  442. 22:33they think.
  443. 22:38I just want people to treat me normally.
  444. 22:43I deserve a chance like anyone else. I
  445. 22:47think people should be glad I halfway
  446. 22:49survived all this.
  447. 23:09>> Mhm.

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