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0:03[Music]
0:11a prosperous suburb of vienna
0:14natasha campus was imprisoned here for
0:16eight and a half years
0:18this is her story what i've learned
0:22about
0:22people is this no one is unfailable
0:27and anyone can find themselves in a
0:29position
0:30where they lose control of their lives
0:36that's true for the kidnapper and it's
0:38true for me
0:42from the moment i was kidnapped i still
0:44had control of my thoughts
0:47but i couldn't do anything about the
0:49world outside
0:54and the perpetrator had blown a couple
0:57of fuses in his head
1:00and he couldn't control his life either
1:04or he wouldn't have done what he did
1:19i have a sign on my forehead that says
1:22crime
1:24victims
1:28i think everyone has preconceptions
1:30about me
1:32maybe when i'm older people will forget
1:34what happened to me
1:43since yesterday evening a 10 year old
1:46girl has been missing in vienna's
1:47donostad district
1:49natasha wears glasses she's 1 meter 45
1:52tall
1:52has light brown hair with a fringe and
1:54blue eyes
1:56she's been missing for more than 34
1:57hours all efforts to locator have been
2:00unsuccessful
2:01and the police are widening their search
2:06my mother always said never part after
2:09an
2:09argument because something could happen
2:12to one of us
2:13and we'd never see each other again
2:17and then it happened
2:20initially she rarely went to school
2:25alone
2:26but on that particular day she did i
2:29watched her from the window as she left
2:31and walked towards the shopping center
2:34then she disappeared and that was it
2:42i was almost halfway to school
2:45when i saw a man in the distance
2:48standing in front of a white van
2:51as though he were waiting for someone
2:56i wanted to cross the street
3:00but then i decided to keep going
3:03straight
3:08when i came nearer he came towards me
3:16grabbed me and
3:19yeah dragged me into his truck
3:22[Laughter]
3:26[Music]
3:28i tried to scream but no sound came out
3:33my voice box froze no sound
3:37the kidnapper said if i didn't scream
3:40and didn't stand up
3:41and did what he said he wouldn't hurt me
3:51i didn't know what was going to happen
3:54in that moment
3:55i thought it was the end
4:07i kind of knew the neighborhood from
4:08that angle because when i used to drive
4:11home with my mother
4:12i'd see the treetops and telephone poles
4:15so i knew roughly where we were headed
4:26fan
4:33then he drove the white truck up to his
4:35garage
4:37wrapped me in a blue blanket and carried
4:39me into the house
4:50[Music]
4:59he carried me downstairs and
5:02put me down for a moment
5:06i didn't know it then but he'd opened
5:10everything up
5:12then he dragged me and carried me in
5:26then he left me in the cell on the floor
5:30in the dark vincent
5:40natasha was always on time so when she
5:42was 10 minutes late
5:44i thought to myself where is she i'm
5:47going to call the child
5:48minder but no one answered i called half
5:52an hour later
5:53and they told me she'd never arrived at
5:56that moment i nearly fainted
5:58i knew something had happened so easy
6:12it was as if the earth had just opened
6:15up
6:16and swallowed her
6:30i just sat there and counted to myself
6:33up to
6:3321. 21 seconds
6:37and then to 60 and on and on
6:41so i knew roughly how long i had been
6:44there
6:46but at some point i lost track
6:51[Applause]
6:55that first day he brought me a mattress
6:59it was just five centimeters thick
7:02and made of foam rubber i only had the
7:05same blue blanket to cover me
7:07and i had to use my jacket as a pillow
7:11i wanted to keep my dress on day and
7:14night
7:16i didn't want to give up anything or
7:19reveal
7:20anything about myself
7:23he'd taken away my school back
7:26and he burned my shoes in the first few
7:29days
7:31he said i wouldn't need them
7:37a massive search is launched by police
7:40starting at the housing estate where
7:42natasha lives
7:46concerned citizens are calling in with
7:48information
7:53soon the police have evidence of an
7:56abduction
7:59austrian police are investigating the
8:01disappearance of ten-year-old natasha
8:03campus
8:03who was last seen walking to school on
8:05march the second
8:07one she had about a two kilometer walk
8:11to school
8:12starting from her home on the renban
8:14estate
8:17halfway along there's a roundabout on
8:19the mainland
8:22at approximately 7 20 a.m that monday
8:24morning
8:25a girl standing at the roundabout says
8:27she saw another girl in a red anorak
8:30being forced into a white truck parked
8:32on the right side of the road
8:42to begin at first i had no way to
8:45contact my kidnapper
8:47if i needed something
8:52he just came every day
8:56i letting sometimes when he didn't close
8:59all the doors behind him
9:02he could hear me knocking and can't
9:04there might
9:06be
9:09and then he installed an intercom system
9:12so i could communicate with him
9:20i couldn't tell if it was day or night
9:23because my inner clock had gone
9:25haywire
9:32years later the entrance to natasha's
9:35cell is discovered in the garage beneath
9:37a disguised trapdoor
9:39[Music]
9:42down below a heavy cupboard and tires
9:44must be shoved aside
9:51they reveal a safe 70 centimeters high
9:53screwed flush with the wall
9:57[Music]
10:00behind that the half meter thick wall
10:02has been hollowed out
10:05[Applause]
10:06to get in you had to crawl backwards
10:08through the hole
10:11and then close 150 kilo steel and
10:14concrete door behind you
10:22finally you turned left to open the
10:24double wooden doors
10:25and step down into a five square meter
10:28cell
10:32it probably took him an hour or so to
10:34open the cell
10:36if he was working fast or he hadn't
10:38locked everything
10:40it was a bit less
10:46the effort was enormous pushing
10:49everything aside and
10:50opening everything up if anything had
10:53happened
10:54to him or he had been taken ill
10:57he'd never have got it open
11:03i would have been sealed up like an
11:05egyptian pharaoh
11:06buried alive dead and mummified
11:12the statement by the young witness
11:14triggers an enormous investigation
11:17police questioned 1520 owners of white
11:21trucks and 650 other people
11:25including a man from strashoff half an
11:27hour from the centre of vienna
11:30a township with one main street
11:33no real center and eight thousand
11:40inhabitants
11:44the man's name is wolfgang pricklope an
11:46unmarried 35 year old communications
11:49technician
11:50with no criminal record
11:54pricklopeel lives in his mother's house
11:56where two investigators question him
11:59his truck is full of rubble from a
12:01building site
12:02he claims to have been at home on the
12:04day of the crime but has no one to
12:06confirm his story
12:08police have no probable cause to search
12:10his house
12:11they take polaroids of his truck write a
12:14report
12:15and file it you have the han
12:18siemens i met her at siemens
12:23we did our vocational training there in
12:25the early 1980s
12:28and we both worked there
12:31later i set up a company renovating
12:34apartments
12:35and i hired her prickly pear because
12:38i knew he was a reliable person
12:42mentioned in gilead
12:58later on he installed a timer
13:01the lights went on at a particular time
13:04and then it went dark like in a prison
13:08where the lights go off at 8pm
13:24every drop of water meant more moles
13:28it was humid and wet in the little room
13:31and there were all kinds of insects
13:33there
13:34it smelled musty
13:39it was very cold and damp
13:43really disgusting it's a cold voice
13:52and the ventilator was a kind of torture
13:55folktale it was very loud
14:05and when it rotated for a long time and
14:08became hot
14:09the blades began to melt and then it
14:12didn't just make that droning noise
14:26that went on until the fan was broken
14:44i began to get a sense for when he was
14:47coming
14:48i would become very nervous
14:53and then i'd hear the sounds of him
14:56unscrewing the safe
14:59and opening the concrete door
15:04and so on lots of pounding noises
15:09i'd sense it in advance
15:18my whole body would go into nuts my
15:21stomach
15:22would twist into nuts i'd break out
15:26in a cold sweat and i'd feel really
15:38queasy
15:46once before the kidnapping when we
15:50were renovating a flat how one could
15:54effectively install sound insulation to
15:58reduce the noise
15:59of a hammer drill
16:03i told him that cement is a good
16:06insulation against
16:08voices but rock wool would be the best
16:12thing to suppress
16:13the sound of a hammer this is
16:25horrified to discover from the police
16:28investigations
16:30that he used exactly this information
16:33to build the cell this releases
16:40[Music]
16:42special investigators in vienna receive
16:44a second tip-off about wolfgang prickle
16:46appeal
16:47eight days after his initial questioning
16:50the informant is a police dog handler
16:52who lives in strassoff
16:54he reports on a neighbor a reclusive man
16:57who owns a white truck
16:59he's a shy loner and protects his house
17:01with electronic surveillance systems
17:04he may store weapons there and he's
17:06thought to have a sexual interest in
17:08children
17:10the officer has never learned his name
17:11but provides a description
17:14the special task force immediately
17:16orders local police in strassoff
17:18to check the man's address
17:24then a fax arrives wolfgang prickler
17:26peel isn't registered as living at the
17:28house
17:29his mother is prickly peal is only
17:31staying there
17:33his truck was checked on the 6th of
17:35april
17:37the tip-off is filed and forgotten
17:44natasha campus has disappeared into thin
17:49[Music]
17:58air
18:00[Music]
18:09sometimes when i was giving her pictures
18:11of dust in the living room
18:14i would hold them to my chest or kiss
18:16them and i said
18:19don't give up you're a strong strong
18:26child
18:31at first i didn't have to help him with
18:33his work
18:35because he was afraid that if i came
18:37upstairs
18:38i might attack him with the tools
18:43but when he was sure i was too scared of
18:46him to run away
18:48[Music]
18:50he let me up but he made sure
18:53everything was locked so i couldn't get
19:08out
19:10[Laughter]
19:20i didn't see any daylight for a long
19:22long time
19:25then when i finally came upstairs i
19:28still didn't see any
19:30even though it was daytime because he
19:33closed the blinds
19:41he began integrating me more and more
19:43into his household
19:45until i became a kind of slave
19:49he always made sure i couldn't run away
19:51he threatened me
19:53and kept everything locked
19:57it must have been incredibly gratifying
20:00for him
20:01to keep someone captive someone who was
20:04there for him alone
20:06someone not even his mother or
20:07grandmother knew about
20:13satan from the time that natasha campus
20:18was kidnapped
20:19i visited his house about twice a year
20:22but never noticed anything unusual
20:29was very concerned with hygiene and
20:32cleanliness
20:33and he was extremely frugal
20:41on the one hand he could afford a bmw
20:46and lasted
21:01for the money he spent on a tank full of
21:05petrol
21:07i could have survived for one or two
21:09weeks
21:10or even longer depending on how much he
21:14gave me to eat
21:15isn't that macabre
21:32sometimes when i went with the police to
21:34identify things
21:36i felt i was going to my own execution
21:39i'd have to go
21:40somewhere near the school or near my
21:42flat because they
21:43found a bag and wanted to know if it
21:46belonged to natasha
21:48sometimes it was a shoe in a bush or a
21:51pair of panties in a car
21:52or a red jacket in a garage
21:58i was always so relieved when i saw that
22:01none of these things were natashas
22:11if i had some skin cream i wrapped some
22:15into the wooden boards of my bed because
22:18it was a bit like furniture polish
22:25i did a lot of dusting and at the
22:27weekends
22:29because i'd got used to doing it with my
22:32mother
22:34when i had time
22:38when i was locked up i sorted things out
22:42tied it everything up and i dusted
22:56he was obsessed with cleaning and of
22:58course he was constantly wiping off
23:00things that i might have touched
23:02i wasn't really supposed to touch
23:04anything because of course fingerprints
23:07leave ugly
23:08greasy marks he would punish me if he
23:12found a fingerprint anywhere
23:15not only because it was potentially
23:17dangerous to find my fingerprints in his
23:19house
23:20but because he hated the look of
23:22fingerprints on his household surfaces
23:26he would grab me by the wrist and use
23:28the back of my hand
23:30to wipe the prints of the refrigerator
23:32or the door frame
23:34two ramen
23:36[Laughter]
23:42guns to begin right at the beginning he
23:44made me wear plastic bags
23:46on my head i stitched them together
23:51and attached them with a rubber band
23:56it was horrible because the color came
23:58off onto my skin
24:00and it hurt because i had to fix it with
24:02clips and rubber bands
24:08it would have been easier just to tuck
24:12the hair
24:13under the plastic
24:16but he insisted on the clips and grips
24:19and they dug into my scalp and hurt
24:21it was tight really unpleasant
24:29it made me frown all the time it was
24:32horrible
24:34then he said if i shaved my head it
24:37wouldn't be so bad
24:39and it was torture so when he trusted me
24:43enough i got a pair of scissors
24:45blunt of course so i couldn't harm
24:47myself
24:48and i used them to cut my hair
24:53and then he saw that he said
24:57he might as well cut it all off and he
25:00did
25:01[Music]
25:12schneider
25:16there were times when the torture and
25:18the humiliation were so bad
25:21that i ran to the window and shouted for
25:24the police
25:25then he grabbed me really roughly and
25:28choked me
25:29and hit me
25:37so of course sometimes i would rather be
25:41in my cell
25:43than have to leave it
25:47to do something i didn't want to
25:51like help him work myself
25:54something he did when he was sick
25:57not at first but later
26:04i had to come up and i'd have to make
26:06him soup or tea
26:08and then he'd take me down again
26:12it was very that is
26:15here frustrating
26:21because when he was sick he'd completely
26:23forget that i have my needs too
26:26that i might want to eat too or need
26:28some daylight
26:31or i want to wash myself
26:33[Music]
26:36the pressure is building on the police
26:37to get results
26:40they decide to tap the telephone of
26:42natasha's mother
26:43they hope the kidnapper will try to get
26:45in touch
26:47a caller claims to be holding natasha
26:50captive but it's a hoax
26:53one of many
27:01going hungry was dreadful you almost
27:05feel like a drug addict and ask yourself
27:09why am i hungry why do i even feel
27:12hunger
27:13why can't i manage without food as
27:18common
27:22he would show me all the food there was
27:24before he gave me anything to eat
27:27but then he'd only cut off a tiny piece
27:29for me
27:30he decided exactly how much i got to eat
27:34he never let me have what i wanted or as
27:37much as i wanted
27:38because he said i moved around so little
27:42in the cell
27:43i didn't need
27:54[Music]
28:03he didn't want me to cry and each time i
28:06did
28:06he wrapped my tears into my face with
28:09the back of his hand
28:13or he took me by the throat and dragged
28:16me
28:17joking me to the bathroom where he held
28:20my face over the sink so i couldn't cry
28:23anymore
28:24he wouldn't let me cry because he was
28:26afraid the hydrochloric acid
28:29my tears would corrode his tiles
28:34[Music]
28:39he always forced me to look him straight
28:41in the eye or look
28:42down at the ground in a very submissive
28:45way
28:46of course i couldn't do that for long
28:49because i won't be forced
28:50to do anything against my will
28:57[Music]
29:00and of course he got back at me because
29:02of that
29:03he kept telling me i'm useless and
29:05worthless
29:06and that i'll never have a chance to
29:08escape and call men
29:17he just liked having someone to dominate
29:20and the more i resisted and answered
29:22back
29:23the more satisfying it was for him to
29:25put me down and
29:26dominate me to boost his own self-esteem
29:33he despised people he hated his
29:36neighbors
29:38although he was nice to them he hated
29:41his surroundings and society
29:44so he pretended to be a conformist
29:54was an only child and after the death of
29:57his father he developed a very intense
30:00relationship with his mother
30:06he placed high demands on women
30:09this is salty flakes
30:13they had to be well groomed slender and
30:16blonde
30:17blonde
30:20and
30:24of course these were hard demands to
30:27fulfill
30:34vandalism
30:38a private detective with his own
30:40theories about the crime
30:41mounts a campaign against the police's
30:43handling of the investigation
30:46as a result 120 files have to be
30:48transferred to a new
30:50police commission by the end there will
30:52be 167
30:54files natasha's body has supposedly been
30:59buried in an allotment
31:00nothing is found a year later the
31:03private detective insists on another dig
31:05he suspects natasha's mother
31:10the private detective cooked up a theory
31:13that i was having an affair with a
31:14businessman
31:16and natasha was in the way so we
31:18murdered her
31:19and buried her in a pond he owned it
31:24and the detective kept on at the police
31:27about digging there
31:28until they agreed and of course they
31:31found nothing
31:36[Music]
31:42you're locked up there in the dark
31:44there's no electricity
31:46and you're hungry and then yes you think
31:49to yourself
31:50what's the point why not put an end to
31:53all this
31:57but then you come to the conclusion
32:01that you mustn't give up
32:05because the whole thing is such a
32:06monstrous injustice
32:09you mustn't allow yourself to be
32:11defeated
32:13it was a kind of fighting spirit that
32:15kept me alive
32:27had to feel pressure he had lots of
32:29books
32:30and he'd probably kept all the books he
32:32had to read in school
32:35and then i got them later
32:38he went out and bought me non-fiction
32:41books
32:42because i like them and some
32:44dictionaries
32:46and books on philosophy
32:58i wanted to learn and discover things in
33:00my own way
33:02so i asked him to send me tests from
33:05maths books
33:08in mathematics
33:11he was good at maths so i asked him to
33:14mark the tests for me
33:16and he did this
33:20but unfortunately it's the way he did it
33:25he found mistakes everywhere and because
33:28he had this controlling side
33:30and he wanted to dominate me he just
33:33crossed everything out
33:34in red ink yes
33:39all that time i felt he wanted to be
33:42like some old-fashioned
33:43teacher i'm in charge here
33:46and that's probably how he was treated
33:48in his childhood
33:54i appreciated the fact that he was
33:57always
33:57polite and very reliable
34:00on the other hand he was rather shy and
34:03a bit
34:04introverted
34:08he always tried not to offend anyone and
34:10i'm sure he was a very obliging person
34:14neighbor son and grandson soon
34:28some time later the vienna city council
34:31offered their help they said something i
34:35shall never forget to this day
34:37i should buy a grave a plot so i could
34:39have a place to go
34:41to talk to natasha i left the office
34:44sat in my car and burst into tears
34:48i couldn't even drive home my soul does
34:52my child is alive she isn't dead natasha
34:56was never
34:56dead for me no one ever showed me any
34:59proof
35:00there was no evidence to the contrary so
35:03i always believed natasha was alive
35:06right through the eight and a half years
35:24[Laughter]
35:28foreign
35:34after a few years i could go out into
35:36the garden with him
35:38sometimes at night for five or ten
35:40minutes
35:42i was so happy i could touch the trees
35:45and the hedge
35:46and i could feel the grass and the wind
35:48on my skin
35:49because of course there's no wind in the
35:52house
35:54and it was so good i asked him
35:58if i could take a trick from the hedge
36:00back down to myself
36:02so i could always think about it as a
36:05kind of memento
36:07who takes something from the garden into
36:10the house
36:11to remember it by means housemates
36:18[Music]
36:24for a while i kept a diary a kind of
36:27workbook
36:29where i wrote down everything i did in
36:31the house
36:32clearing up this cleaning that
36:35siliconing
36:37i had to wash every towel by hand before
36:39it could be laid
36:41i had to check every tile for floors
36:43because of course you wouldn't use
36:45any tile that wasn't perfect i squeezed
36:48out sponges
36:49shoveled rubble carried heavy packets of
36:51tiles
36:52it was exhausting i was extremely weak
36:55and thin
37:02[Music]
37:06yeah the first few years i baked a cake
37:10for natasha on her birthday
37:13and chucked it away after a couple of
37:14weeks
37:16but i always tried to keep natasha alive
37:18in my mind
37:20to include her wherever she was i tried
37:23to let her know somehow
37:25maybe by telepathy that i was thinking
37:28of her
37:31and on my birthday i always remembered
37:34all the birthdays i had celebrated with
37:37lots of other kids
37:39and with a special cake
37:46and how different it is now all
37:51[Music]
38:02of course at the beginning nothing
38:07the kidnapping of course but
38:10all the humiliation and the other things
38:13didn't come till later
38:18then i really began to hate him for the
38:20way he was torturing me
38:25but maybe the secret the reason i
38:28survived all those years
38:30was because i forgave him for everything
38:34almost as soon as it happened
38:38[Music]
38:43i think if i hadn't forgiven him
38:50then i would have been so full of hate
38:57and negative feelings that it would have
39:00become
39:00unbearable and it would have destroyed
39:03me physically
39:08[Music]
39:12the kind of crime he committed
39:15is usually the result of some illness or
39:18injury
39:20and the person can't usually do anything
39:23about an illness
39:28but this criminal had a conscience
39:32he still had a conscience he was aware
39:35on some level of what he was doing
39:39you could see that he was weak and
39:42unstable
39:44because of some kind of illness or
39:46injury
39:48he had become so unstable that he saw
39:52the kidnapping as the solution to his
39:54problems
39:57it didn't matter what the problems
39:59really were
40:00or how he thought this could help but he
40:03did see it
40:04as a solution and
40:11and that actually made me feel
40:15pity and compassion for him
40:18because many people are looking for the
40:20meaning of their lives
40:33and he thought that if life hadn't given
40:36him what he wanted
40:38he must take it by force he felt
40:41that he must become like everything that
40:43had injured him
40:44and made him ill
40:49seven years have passed since natasha
40:51campus is kidnapping
40:52seven years in which she has grown into
40:54a young woman
40:55no one would recognize her now they're
40:58still looking for her
41:00or rather for a name in police files
41:04and that allows her kidnapper to take
41:05her out into the city
41:07even to work for him renovating an
41:09apartment
41:12many people ask why i didn't simply run
41:14away
41:15while he was busy
41:19but he always made sure i was carrying
41:21something heavy
41:23oh there was some other reason i
41:25couldn't just run
41:29he was very good at keeping up the
41:32pressure
41:40and i wasn't allowed to speak to anyone
41:44he said he'd kill anyone i spoke to
41:48or he'd kill me and anyone who'd seen me
41:54it was hopeless this was
42:03[Music]
42:08once we were on the way to the hardware
42:11store
42:12we got caught in a traffic jam and
42:16there was a police checkpoint up ahead
42:18of us
42:22there was a rather stocky policeman
42:24there
42:26a friendly type team they make a
42:29politicist
42:31but he didn't look too intelligent
42:37intelligence
42:40i tried to signal him with my eyes
42:44that something was wrong but he didn't
42:47pick it up
42:49he probably thought i was mentally
42:51disturbed or
42:52epileptic or something anyway he didn't
42:56notice or
42:57ask any questions he just checked the
43:00car documents and waved us through
43:08if someone jumps out of a car and starts
43:10pounding on the windows of
43:12other cars they don't look especially
43:15normal or
43:15trustworthy the way i looked at the time
43:20so thin and pale people might have
43:23thought that was crazy
43:29[Music]
43:39and in july 2006 her prickly pear called
43:43me
43:44and told me he wanted to borrow my
43:46trailer
43:50and one evening we drove to this hall so
43:52there's a highly fan
43:56and he had to pick up a trailer he owned
44:00or he owned with hulk's apple
44:04what's up
44:12but i didn't know if he was his
44:13accomplice
44:15or if you would believe me because he
44:17was obviously his best friend
44:23when he came he was accompanied by a
44:26young girl
44:29i saw the girl as i opened the door to
44:31the hall
44:33and he introduced her to me as an
44:36acquaintance i shook her hand and said
44:39hello
44:44that was hardly a situation where i
44:46could have said something
44:49so i didn't try to escape i just did
44:52what i was supposed to do
44:54shook his hand and said nothing the way
44:57he'd dropped it into me
45:02muslim then i had to leave
45:06because i was under time pressure
45:18i got everything that you want
45:22i like a heart that also true
45:26just call on me the senate
45:29lot with love for
45:36i could have committed suicide thought
45:39it was much better to be dead than
45:41locked up for good
45:42but that day thank heavens i found the
45:45courage
45:46and just ran away
45:51[Music]
45:56at 104 pm today a confused young girl
45:59was discovered in a garden in the town
46:01of strassov
46:02when police arrived the young woman
46:05claimed to be natasha campus
46:09he was talking on his cell phone and
46:12he'd
46:13told me to vacuum the van which i was
46:16doing
46:23the noise was so loud that he walked
46:25over to the swimming pool
46:27maybe 11 meters away he left the garden
46:31gate open
46:36so i grabbed the opportunity i left the
46:39vacuum cleaner on
46:40and ran away really really fast
46:44as fast as my legs could carry me
46:48when they searched the house police
46:50found a prison cell in the garage
46:53it has just been reported that the
46:55alleged kidnapper has committed suicide
46:58the drifter then apparently he drove to
47:01the train station
47:03and he laid down on the tracks then the
47:06train ran
47:06over his head then he was dead
47:16natasha campus becomes a media star
47:18overnight
47:19darling of the world's press the missed
47:22tip-off from the police dog handler
47:23causes a political storm
47:26there's talk of cover-ups mistakes
47:28half-truths
47:29austria's scandal-rat government resigns
47:32two years later
47:33the papers spread rumors of sado
47:35masochism
47:36child pornography rings and possible
47:39accomplices
47:41of course they want to make headlines
47:44child pornography and natasha campus
47:47are linked all the time that's so
47:50painful
47:58no pornography ring came by
48:01as far as i was concerned i only had
48:04contact with a kidnapper
48:06did he do something like that i don't
48:08think so because he didn't have the time
48:12but we'll never know
48:15we could only ask him and he would
48:17probably deny
48:18everything but no one would believe him
48:22because people like to hear stories
48:24about sadomasochism and child porn rings
48:27that's the way it is
48:30people love horrible things and they
48:32can't get enough of them
48:35they seek them out and exaggerate them
48:37and embellish them
48:39make them even more terrible and
48:40disgusting and revolting and vile
48:46people
48:55the press asked me straight out whether
48:57i was raped or sexually abused
48:59and that kind of thing but in my eyes
49:02the way the media treated me after my
49:05escape
49:06is a form of abuse too and they should
49:09be punished for it
49:26losing in many people i trigger some
49:28kind of unconscious aggression
49:31maybe the whole crime and what happened
49:34to me triggers aggression
49:36and i'm the only one they can still
49:38reach and so it all lands on me
49:41this upgrade
49:45i said to right from the start i said
49:48i'm not a victim
49:49because i knew that if i present myself
49:52as a victim
49:53and show everyone how terrible it was
49:56they'd never accept me as a normal
49:58person again
49:59they'd say you you've debased yourself
50:03so far
50:04what do you think you're doing here go
50:07back where you came from
50:09go back down to your filthy swamp
50:12that's how most people are that's how
50:14they think
50:16[Music]
50:19i just want people to treat me normally
50:25i deserve a chance like anyone else
50:28i think people should be glad a halfway
50:30survived all this
50:41[Music]
50:53you

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