Nóng.. Nguyễn Phương Hằng bốc trần Lê Thanh Hải cựu bí thư tỉnh ủy Thành phố HCM ... — Transcript

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1. 0:02This is what I’m saying, back then I
2. 0:04did business from District 6 to
3. 0:05District 12, through District 2 to
4. 0:07District 9. I did it with some friends
5. 0:13and sometimes on my own. Do you know
6. 0:16the Phu Nhuan Housing Development
7. 0:18Company? Mr. Han was the director of
8. 0:20that company. He originally started out
9. 0:22as a teacher. And I’m talking about
10. 0:24the time when Mr. Chinh Luc was the
11. 0:26Chairman of District 2; in District 2,
12. 0:28there were three Lucs. The Luc, Le Luc,
13. 0:30and Chinh Luc were three people working
14. 0:32there: one in the office, one as
15. 0:33chairman, and one in charge of
16. 0:35compensation in District 2. Let me tell
17. 0:37you this. Back in 2000 and 2001, there
18. 0:40were many residential projects in
19. 0:42District 2 developed by real estate
20. 0:44investors. I tell you, land prices back
21. 0:47then fluctuated between 80,000 and
22. 0:50150,000. At that time, I bought several
23. 0:54hectares of land that were located
24. 0:56within a residential area, a zone
25. 0:57planned by the Phu Nhuan District 2
26. 0:59Development Company, where Mr. Han was
27. 1:01the director. I really hold a grudge. I
28. 1:07bought several hectares of land
29. 1:08surrounding his project. He had been
30. 1:12granted a project by the state
31. 1:13consisting of over ten hectares. Then
32. 1:16he went and made a fake drawing.
33. 1:18Meaning, for all the plots of land that
34. 1:20were within his plan, he drew up
35. 1:22another separate map. In that plan, for
36. 1:25example, there was a cluster like this.
37. 1:27He expanded it into a big cluster like
38. 1:28this, and inside it, he included the
39. 1:30plot numbers of the land I had bought.
40. 1:32He then released that map to the real
41. 1:34estate brokers. He claimed that the
42. 1:35land I bought was included in his
43. 1:37project plan. But in reality, that
44. 1:39planning map was one he created just to
45. 1:41intimidate us, because we were land
46. 1:43traders. Excuse me for saying this. I
47. 1:46only had the money; I didn't have much
48. 1:48experience yet. When I had already
49. 1:50bought all the land around it, in
50. 1:52reality, the land I bought surrounding
51. 1:53that residential area was not part of
52. 1:55his project at all. He was such a
53. 1:57scoundrel; I will never forget it. The
54. 2:01master plan map he provided was one
55. 2:03that he drew up himself. It didn't have
56. 2:06any architect's signature or official
57. 2:07seal on it at all. However, his real
58. 2:09map was the one that was actually
59. 2:11stamped. We are business people, and
60. 2:13when he released that map, he claimed
61. 2:15our land was within his planned area.
62. 2:18And you know, back then it was so hard
63. 2:20to buy, we had to go through brokers,
64. 2:22pay them a cut, then notarize it to get
65. 2:24our names on the deeds, hoping to
66. 2:26develop it ourselves, that's what we
67. 2:28sisters thought. Eventually, when he
68. 2:31put that out, we were terrified,
69. 2:32thinking we were doomed, that if our
70. 2:34land was caught in the Phu Nhuan
71. 2:36company project, we were finished. He
72. 2:38put out some information and invited us
73. 2:39to the company. He said that all the
74. 2:41land we bought was now entirely within
75. 2:43his master plan. He claimed the state
76. 2:45compensation rate was only 20,000 VND.
77. 2:47Just around 10,000 or 20,000 VND. He
78. 2:49said, "Fine, I'll buy it back from you
79. 2:51for exactly what you paid.""Consider it
80. 2:52me helping you out, since you're just
81. 2:54women who went out and bought land,
82. 2:55it's pathetic.""Look here, check your
83. 2:57plot numbers," and you know what? When
84. 2:59we compared our red books with the plot
85. 3:01numbers in his plan, they matched
86. 3:02perfectly. But you see, he scammed us;
87. 3:05after hearing what he said, we sisters
88. 3:07calculated everything and thought,
89. 3:09since we already bought it and it's in
90. 3:11his plan, we have no choice but to sell
91. 3:13it to him. Oh my god, you know what
92. 3:16happened? After we sold it to him, a
93. 3:18while later he took the land and the
94. 3:20red books we bought and applied to
95. 3:22expand the project—it was absolutely
96. 3:24despicable. What does that mean? It
97. 3:26means once he had the land in his hands
98. 3:28, he went and applied to expand his
99. 3:29project. Meanwhile, at the time we
100. 3:31bought the land, his project wasn't
101. 3:33that big at all, just a small cluster.
102. 3:35He was just collecting land from us,
103. 3:36then he asked to expand the project,
104. 3:38and at that time, the Department of
105. 3:39Planning and Investment approved it for
106. 3:41him, why? Because he already had the
107. 3:42land assets ready. Oh my god, he
108. 3:44deceived us; I will never forget that
109. 3:47until the day I die, never. He used a
110. 3:50fake expanded map, and Mr. Le Thanh Hai
111. 3:53was the same, Mr. Le Hai threw away the
112. 3:58old map, and drew a new one to steal
113. 4:01land from the people in District 2.
114. 4:04Isn't that despicable? By the time the
115. 4:06people discovered it, he had already
116. 4:08handed it over to the developers. I
117. 4:10tell you honestly, if I didn't know
118. 4:15about it, I would suffer less, do you
119. 4:17understand? There were people who were
120. 4:24being compensated, they refused to even
121. 4:26open bank accounts, they just threw the
122. 4:28money in there, forced them out,
123. 4:29forcibly tore down their houses,
124. 4:31whether they agreed or not, they didn't
125. 4:33care, they opened the accounts, dumped
126. 4:35the money in, and bulldozed the houses.
127. 4:42I tell you, talking about it breaks my
128. 4:44heart, so truthfully, with all those
129. 4:46souls who died in injustice, it's hard
130. 4:48for District 2 to develop. The Giong To
131. 4:51area, Binh Trung Dong, Binh Trung Tay.
132. 4:54See? Everything I am saying is from a
133. 4:57time when I was there and witnessed how
134. 5:03many people struggled and suffered when
135. 5:04being forced out. From the pieces of
136. 5:08land and assets of families that had
137. 5:10been passed down for generations, oh my
138. 5:12, 320,000 people are watching live.
139. 5:14This Elus channel must be startling me.
140. 5:17For many generations, they forced them
141. 5:19off, destroyed their graves, and
142. 5:20crushed their families and clans. Oh my
143. 5:23god, they are filled with hatred; I
144. 5:25honestly tell you, for 30 years, and
145. 5:28now I am 56 years old. For 30 years, I
146. 5:31have experienced this life with so many
147. 5:33hidden corners of suffering. But the
148. 5:35irony is that I have not witnessed good
149. 5:37things, you know, I have only witnessed
150. 5:39the sufferings of the people. That is
151. 5:42why I love the people and why I burn
152. 5:44myself out for them. Why do my tears
153. 5:47fall for the poor people? It is because
154. 5:51I have witnessed too much, so the song
155. 5:53"Why I Love the People," no, I am
156. 5:55always Phuong Hang, my life has
157. 5:57witnessed so much suffering. Why do I
158. 6:01love the people, and why do they love
159. 6:03me? I ask you, as a woman like me, it
160. 6:05is because I have witnessed the
161. 6:07people's suffering throughout my life.
162. 6:10Those are genuine observations, not
163. 6:12mere illusions. I am someone who has
164. 6:17truly experienced life, because I have
165. 6:19seen so many people evicted from their
166. 6:21homes in the middle of the night,
167. 6:22forced out by authorities. Even though
168. 6:25they did not agree to it, money was
169. 6:27simply dumped into bank accounts and
170. 6:28they were forcibly evicted. Whether you
171. 6:30leave or not is your own problem. But
172. 6:32when the time comes, they evict you,
173. 6:33only to take the land and hand it to
174. 6:35businesses that end up doing nothing,
175. 6:36just dragging things out aimlessly. The
176. 6:38people are left drifting everywhere. I
177. 6:41ask you, as you listen to what I,
178. 6:42Nguyen Phuong Hang, say, you see that
179. 6:44what I express in songs and poems comes
180. 6:46from the fact that my eyes have seen
181. 6:48and my ears have heard, so my heart
182. 6:50aches. My eyes have seen and my ears
183. 6:53have heard, so my heart aches. That is
184. 6:55why I say it is because my life has
185. 6:56witnessed the people's suffering.
186. 6:57Having a house and a home, suddenly in
187. 6:59one night they are out on the street,
188. 7:00not knowing where to go. Money sits in
189. 7:02the bank at a pathetic compensation
190. 7:04price. Is it not heartbreaking? So, let
191. 7:08no one think I am irrational. My
192. 7:11knowledge and my life experience come
193. 7:13from these sufferings, from what I have
194. 7:15seen with my own eyes, heard with my
195. 7:17own ears, felt in my heart, and could
196. 7:19not remain silent about. I have been
197. 7:22seeing this for decades now. So as I
198. 7:26grew older, I tried to live decently,
199. 7:28to earn money and help the people,
200. 7:30especially the poor. I have witnessed
201. 7:33too many things. I tell you honestly,
202. 7:36there is no one in this world who does
203. 7:37not love their country, no one who does
204. 7:39not love their fatherland and their
205. 7:41fellow countrymen. But why do so many
206. 7:43people give up and leave? They simply
207. 7:45cannot live on, witnessing and enduring
208. 7:47it any longer. As for me, I did not
209. 7:49have that concept, but in the end, I
210. 7:51had to leave due to pressure, due to a
211. 7:53conspiracy to harm me and send me to
212. 7:55prison again. It forced me to leave.
213. 7:58Meanwhile, I try to live decently to
214. 8:00compensate for what I can see and to
215. 8:01help the people. Raising my voice for
216. 8:04the people then made me guilty as well.
217. 8:08I tell you, I am not a muddle-headed
218. 8:10person, and my stories are very real,
219. 8:12very true, and very human, which no one
220. 8:15can deny because I am a witness. And
221. 8:18why did God let me witness those
222. 8:19heartbreaking scenes just to shatter my
223. 8:21heart? And why am I willing to give my
224. 8:23last penny, to pour out my guts, my
225. 8:25liver, and my heart for the people? Why
226. 8:27? I see it all, I feel the pain, I
227. 8:33carry compassion, I understand them, I
228. 8:35understand what those times were like,
229. 8:37remember that. How powerful is Le Thanh
230. 8:42Hai's influence, who would dare to
231. 8:45oppose him, who? And when he was
232. 8:50finally discovered to be wrong, when
233. 8:52the central government found his faults
234. 8:54, how many lives were sacrificed for
235. 8:55his mistakes, affecting millions of
236. 8:57people? Is that not evil? Is it not
237. 9:01heartless that he still lives so calmly
238. 9:03now? Why does he still exist at the
239. 9:05expense of others 'suffering? Why? And
240. 9:11meanwhile, I am a witness to an
241. 9:13educated person, and let me tell you,
242. 9:15it is truly miserable. I am not a
243. 9:18gossip, yet why does so much drama come
244. 9:20to me? Oh my, how can there be so many
245. 9:23stories to tell. What is happening to
246. 9:26me? When I had money, I hung out with
247. 9:30many wealthy people, and I associated
248. 9:32with Mr. Ba Thung. He was the general
249. 9:36director of the Vietnam Rubber Company.
250. 9:42In those golden days, I tell you
251. 9:43honestly, only people with money and
252. 9:45power knew me. It was Mr. Ba Thung who
253. 9:51told me that Le Thanh Hai was a poor
254. 9:53student. It was Mr. Ba Thieu who told
255. 9:57me, as Mr. Ba Thung and Mr. Ba Thieu
256. 10:00were close friends. Le Thanh Hai would
257. 10:04have others take exams for him because
258. 10:05he was as dense as an ox. And it was
259. 10:09Mr. Ba Thung who hosted the wedding for
260. 10:11Le Thanh Hai and Ms. Hien back in those
261. 10:13days. I tell you, I am such a gossip,
262. 10:16it's frightening. Goodness, all these
263. 10:19rotten stories just keep reaching my
264. 10:21ears. After a beautiful day. I asked
265. 10:24Mr. Hai, "Hey, did Mr. Ba Thun really
266. 10:26organize your wedding with Ms. Hien
267. 10:28back then?" He said, "How did you know?
268. 10:31""You’re so clever, my goodness!" I
269. 10:34told him I heard it from Mr. Ba Thun,
270. 10:35from the Vietnam Rubber Group, who said
271. 10:37he was the one who organized your
272. 10:39wedding with Ms. Hien. He said, "That's
273. 10:41right, and when it came to exams, I had
274. 10:43someone else take them for me. I’m so
275. 10:45talented, such a great student!" I was
276. 10:47being sarcastic with him, folks. Does
277. 10:49he even have an education? Having
278. 10:51someone else take exams for you—when
279. 10:53I know that, do you think I have any
280. 10:55respect left for him? Let me tell you,
281. 10:59I am a stubborn and strong-willed woman
282. 11:01. I would even argue with my own father
283. 11:06and defy him, so why wouldn't I dare to
284. 11:08confront people like that? I asked him
285. 11:12just to put him in his place—to let
286. 11:13him know that if he was the city's
287. 11:15People's Committee chairman and had to
288. 11:16have someone else take his exams, did
289. 11:18he even have a real degree? That was a
290. 11:19slap in the face to him, though I don't
291. 11:21know if he realized it. If someone were
292. 11:23tactful, they wouldn't ask, but why did
293. 11:25I ask? And why do I dare to speak about
294. 11:28it publicly to you all today? It's
295. 11:29because he has now admitted it's true.
296. 11:32Is that bold or what, folks? Have you
297. 11:34seen anyone as bold as Nguyen Phuong
298. 11:36Hang? Because I am a person who dares
299. 11:38to speak my mind; who do you think you
300. 11:40are? But you were the city's chairman,
301. 11:42and if you had to have someone else
302. 11:43take your exams, it proves your degree
303. 11:45is fake. Damn, I just asked him
304. 11:47straight out. What did he say? "I know
305. 11:50because Mr. Ba Thung and Mr. Ba Thieu
306. 11:52told me," because Mr. Ba Thun and Mr.
307. 11:54Ba Thieu were comrades-in-arms with Le
308. 11:56Thanh Hai, weren't they soldiers from
309. 11:58the same era? I’ve told you that a
310. 12:01dirty past is hard to cover up, and
311. 12:03I’m not a gossip, but so much gossip
312. 12:04comes to me, and my ears hear it. Mr.
313. 12:08Ba Thung is still around, Mr. Ba Thieu
314. 12:10is still around; Mr. Ba Thieu was in
315. 12:12the rubber and latex business, while
316. 12:14Mr. Ba Thun was the General Director of
317. 12:16Vietnam Rubber. They also went to
318. 12:19prison because of many tangled stories.
319. 12:22But what am I telling you here? There
320. 12:26are deep connections between Le Thanh
321. 12:27Hai and me. You should remember that.
322. 12:32When Le Thanh Hai became the city
323. 12:34chairman, everyone was completely
324. 12:36shocked. Because what were people
325. 12:39saying? He isn't a talented guy, but he
326. 12:43has connections. He has connections
327. 12:47through his wife's sister, Truong My
328. 12:48Hoa, he’s not a talented person at
329. 12:50all. Because you have to remember, back
330. 12:52in those days I was very young, forgive
331. 12:54me for saying so. So many men were
332. 12:56infatuated with me, every one of them
333. 12:58wanted to win my favor. I was young,
334. 13:00beautiful, wealthy, and very witty.
335. 13:03Only someone like me would dare to
336. 13:04question those things. And do you know
337. 13:07why they would tell someone like me
338. 13:08their stories? Because they knew Le
339. 13:14Thanh Hai was infatuated with me, so
340. 13:16they exposed to me that Le Thanh Hai
341. 13:18was uneducated, and that he married
342. 13:19Mrs. Hien only because Mr. Ba Thung
343. 13:21organized the wedding, since they all
344. 13:23knew Le Thanh Hai was obsessed with me.
345. 13:28And those people were his comrades, his
346. 13:30associates, and his classmates, so they
347. 13:32said: "Honestly, when we heard Le Thanh
348. 13:34Hai became secretary and city chairman,
349. 13:36we were shocked, because he was a poor
350. 13:38student; how could he ever reach that
351. 13:40position? We were truly stunned." These
352. 13:43are the heartfelt words I am speaking,
353. 13:45and I am being very truthful. Right
354. 13:48here on this social media platform. I
355. 13:50am telling you the truth; if you don't
356. 13:52believe me, you can't believe anyone,
357. 13:53because everything I say is the truth.
358. 13:56I have been through a lot of battles,
359. 13:58but I have a good memory, I remember
360. 14:00everything they did to harm the people,
361. 14:02and I was the one who told Le Thanh Hai
362. 14:04directly, and he was shocked when I
363. 14:05confronted him with that information.
364. 14:10So I tell you this, look at it
365. 14:12yourselves. If a person like me were
366. 14:15manipulative, where would I be right
367. 14:17now? Either I would be glorious, or I
368. 14:22would be ruined. I am not some
369. 14:24small-timer, I am not some incompetent
370. 14:26loser, and I am not a traitor to my
371. 14:28people. I stand on my own two feet, I
372. 14:32don't crawl on my knees. And that is
373. 14:33the reason why, to this very day, I am
374. 14:35still shining and speaking out about
375. 14:37things that no one else would ever dare
376. 14:38to say. Perhaps today when you hear
377. 14:40this, you will be shocked and have no
378. 14:42more doubts. Because Mrs. Hang has been
379. 14:44keeping too many secrets, knowing
380. 14:46everything from root to branch. I want
381. 14:48you all to listen. He came to my house
382. 14:51wearing sandals, to the point that I
383. 14:52even noticed the toe next to his big
384. 14:54toe was longer than his big toe. His
385. 14:57feet were very rough. He was wearing
386. 14:59those sandals with the straps across
387. 15:01them. I even looked down at his feet. I
388. 15:04could even see the scar on his forehead
389. 15:06. Do you know if I have met him? I have
390. 15:10been to the City People's Committee
391. 15:12headquarters several times. I met him
392. 15:15several times; I have no need to lie,
393. 15:17and I know very well what he does and
394. 15:19what his tactics are. There is one
395. 15:22thing, I refused to be his mistress. I
396. 15:24don't like it. Firstly, he has a wife.
397. 15:28Secondly, he is a person working for
398. 15:30the state. It's not my type. The third
399. 15:34thing is, I work in economics. He is a
400. 15:37person who wanted to create conditions
401. 15:39for me, but I never accepted any of his
402. 15:41conditions. Because every kind of favor
403. 15:44must always come with a condition
404. 15:45attached. Because I affirm to you all
405. 15:48that I do not do shady business. It's
406. 15:50just that simple.