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0:00Hello.
0:01Hi, can you hear me?
0:03Yes. Are you from EU?
0:05Um yeah, I'm from Austria, you know.
0:08Ah, okay, wait. You're is from LP. Have
0:11we ever played?
0:13Uh no, I I'm like uh
0:17Hold on, I need to No, I I was like uh
0:21master
0:23very low master for long time because I
0:25like watching streams. Um and I play
0:28like Elise Taric and
0:30I realized this time it's a way too hard
0:32for me. Now I play Shyvana and suddenly
0:34I'm like 800 LP, but
0:36it's a bit I climbed so fast that I
0:38actually I feel kind of lost now because
0:40games are becoming a lot harder. And
0:43yeah. I mean, Shyvana is
0:45I think extremely situational.
0:47She's not really good.
0:49Pick her every game, but yeah.
0:51Okay, just Okay, just
0:53like Did you send it?
0:55Not yet. I need to to do some
0:58security code. Not sure what they call
1:00it in English.
1:01Yep. Go ahead.
1:03Show me the game you want
1:04me to review.
1:06Um I mean, I'm not sure which one. All
1:08of them we kind of lost, but I think
1:10yeah. Just I mean, I think just do the
1:12last one.
1:14Uh this one is a bit
1:16This one bit uh
1:17disaster, I think. Okay, then don't do
1:19this one. Then do the one where you like
1:21you have a little bit of gameplay, but
1:22you lost, okay? Yeah.
1:25Do you always blind Shyvana?
1:27Yeah.
1:29>> [laughter]
1:29>> Okay, because it is really bad. I know.
1:31You know, you
1:32like this this I mean, I have played
1:34against Udyr as well. Shyvana is
1:35unplayable. Yeah, it is. I was getting
1:38destroyed. And then press F1.
1:41You play like you're playing actual high
1:42elo games, you know this, right?
1:44Yeah, I saw after this game
1:46I could be the leader.
1:48Yes, it sounds somewhat Udyr is also
1:49like challenger player kind of. Your
1:51support is I think not low elo. Your mid
1:53lane is high challenger player, AD
1:54carry. Yeah, yeah, I did play Okay. But
1:57anyways, press F1.
1:59Who What
2:00>> it do?
2:01>> It hides enemies.
2:02>> Oh.
2:03>> Okay, so this game already what you want
2:04to do.
2:06>> Um
2:07I mean in hindsight maybe I should have
2:09popped up as like also I think I
2:12realized pretty pretty quickly.
2:14Um
2:16Yeah.
2:17>> Okay, but like generally what do you
2:19want to do with this game?
2:22I mean you're not getting kills
2:24automatically.
2:24>> No. I'm not I mean I would I would like
2:27to get
2:28all my camps without getting invaded.
2:31And
2:32after six I mean after platonic maybe we
2:35can play some objective fights.
2:36>> Okay,
2:37okay. Yeah.
2:37>> So I mean the first thing is like so how
2:40how high level games work is the if both
2:42junglers are good, nothing happens until
2:44first crab or first dragon, right? Third
2:46sorry, third. Yes, okay. So the question
2:49is can you get both crabs if you path
2:51bot?
2:52>> I mean no.
2:54>> No, right? Is it you uses all the brains
2:55and they probably lose too.
2:57So I think in this case I
2:59I would probably pass top, yes. But also
3:01because of the map, you know how the map
3:02works?
3:03>> Uh excuse me, again.
3:05>> If if you end up so can can you look at
3:07the crabs?
3:09>> Um
3:10>> So if you path if you path from blue to
3:11red, right?
3:12>> Yes.
3:14>> Just like cover your mouth from blue
3:15buff to red buff
3:17and then the golems.
3:18How far away from crab are you?
3:21>> Um I mean pretty far.
3:23>> Yes. So most of them you're not going to
3:24get this crab, right? You you don't want
3:26to get this crab. You want to recall and
3:27go for top crab.
3:29>> I think that's what it is. I'm not sure.
3:30>> Okay, exactly. So so this is this is
3:32like you have to estimate how much tempo
3:35will you need to get to go from here to
3:37the crab and is it worth like is your
3:39bot lane going to be winning hard enough
3:40to bridge this gap that you need.
3:43>> Yeah, I think I think I'm not expecting
3:44to get that.
3:46>> Yes, no way you get it. So if so if you
3:48do this you already know you will recall
3:50and play top side.
3:51>> Yes.
3:52>> Okay, fine. Then then we can do then we
3:53can start top side because this is what
3:55you're doing, right? If you if you are
3:56showing here, you kind of like have to
3:57start top side now.
3:58>> Yeah. One question is like try to go for
4:01this ward. Sometimes it gets punished. I
4:03think like this game, I'm not sure if if
4:06I'm allowed, but would you recommend
4:08trying to do this just all the time? And
4:11uh
4:12>> A level one ward?
4:13>> Yeah.
4:14>> Yeah.
4:15It's okay.
4:18But I mean your Anivia should be
4:19covering your bot side entrance because
4:20if he sees you do this and Anivia is
4:22showing up mid, he can just walk in on
4:24your bot side and just cheese you.
4:26>> Yeah.
4:27>> But yeah, okay. So, you can also ward
4:30like until yeah.
4:31You're not smiting?
4:33Why you're not smiting?
4:35>> Um
4:37I'm not sure. I sometimes do. I think I
4:39was like uh
4:40>> You you you should either smite the
4:41golems or the red, but this red red is
4:43more efficient. But you should smite the
4:44red because now like now you can
4:46actually get double crab low key.
4:48>> But you think like if I smite here and
4:50recall and then we meet a top crab like
4:52if we do this really fast and I don't
4:55secure it.
4:56>> It's more important to be 3 seconds
4:58earlier than to have a smite.
5:00>> All right.
5:00Sure.
5:01>> Because you will kite the crab away from
5:03him.
5:04Even if you are too late, you he your
5:05crab might just like you start at the
5:07same time. Okay, so yeah, this is good.
5:09And now you should run to the enemy
5:10golems.
5:11>> You think so? I mean yeah, I
5:13>> he's super late. He's he might even die.
5:15You should like you see you see him and
5:16you will catch him up. You will 100% get
5:18enemy golems and if he dies
5:21I mean you can get enemy golems and
5:22literally full clear by the way and the
5:24game is over.
5:24>> You want me to do golems, gromp or
5:27>> Yeah. You can full clear.
5:29>> All right.
5:30>> After you get six on your golems
5:31>> in in in general if enemy is like uh
5:35using tempo
5:36>> If he's yes, if if he's overstaying this
5:38hard where you can be at the enemy
5:41golems at the spawn of it, it's good to
5:43get taken. Yeah. Just because you got
5:45level six, you got better smite, you get
5:47level like you get dragon right? You get
5:48so much from this. Even if you say this
5:51in your [ __ ]
5:53>> Yeah, makes sense.
5:54>> Okay, and now you should
5:55>> I sometimes by the way I sometimes do
5:57this with Gromp, but Golems I feel like
5:58it's a bit harder.
6:00>> Hold up,
6:01why don't you commit?
6:03>> Uh what for?
6:04>> From invading. Like if you look look at
6:06mid wave.
6:09Yes, perfect. Look at mid wave.
6:12Hmm, yeah. He's freezing. He's freezing
6:14but you like you should have just tell
6:15him to push.
6:17Like right now you should you should
6:18ping on my way enemy Gromp.
6:20And
6:22and like you because you have mid and
6:23bot push you can easily play this enemy
6:25Gromp.
6:26>> Yeah.
6:26>> By the way also one of the reasons one
6:28of the reasons because you didn't smite
6:29right? That's why your Golems are like
6:31six seconds too late.
6:32>> Yes, yes.
6:33>> That's why you're homeless right now and
6:35you can do this invade.
6:36>> Yes, if I if it was only would you still
6:39invade or no?
6:40>> I would do Golems and then invade
6:41because I think you're still going to So
6:42how it works is because he wastes this
6:44much time you can probably full clear
6:46and then invade at the end of it and you
6:48will probably be there when he's he's
6:49like at 800 HP or something and you're
6:51going to get a free 50/50 on the ground.
6:53If you get 50/50 you win the game. If
6:55you don't get a 50/50 who cares?
6:57Right? You didn't like you have nothing
6:58up.
6:59So getting a free 50/50 like this is
7:01completely overpowered right?
7:02But yeah you should have committed.
7:05It's you're wasting time just because
7:06enemy bot is freezing and you have mid
7:07push. Yeah, you have like your teammates
7:09can for free move to and what you have
7:11to you just have to play it slow.
7:12Right? Just wait until they crash the
7:14waves and then
7:15>> Come come to you.
7:16>> Oh this guy is [ __ ] inting.
7:19Oh you know you could have like okay I I
7:20really hope you at least like
7:22hit the dragon or something.
7:24Right now. But you wasted so much time
7:26that you just might not even be able to
7:28do it for free.
7:30>> Yeah, I'm
7:31I don't think we can unless he's
7:33recalling maybe.
7:35Or maybe it's a disaster I don't know.
7:36>> hit it. No no you should hit it ASAP.
7:39>> Oh yeah I tried this but this is
7:41awkward.
7:41>> If you do anything else, you're
7:42trolling. It's because Right now he's
7:45he's busy on the camps. He's not going
7:46to check dragon, right? Your bottom is
7:48fighting.
7:49Uh either you one-shot the Either you
7:50one-shot the dragon or you or you just
7:53reset.
7:54>> Do you think I can do the drake with
7:56this?
7:57>> Yes.
7:58If you go ASAP, yes.
8:00Press F3. Press F3.
8:04Like if you have started it and he
8:06doesn't check it, you will get it, yes.
8:07But he's going here you because probably
8:09he saw you and he's like
8:10>> Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
8:12>> It's like because the fight is losing,
8:13right? You will lose You probably lose
8:15two with three.
8:15>> Yes, we will lose, but they are so hard.
8:17I didn't really expect that.
8:19Um also I should have possibly burned
8:21check this.
8:22>> Okay, so Okay, you were on the vision.
8:24So dragon is like The dragon is still
8:25good, but you will need to kite it.
8:28Because if he sees you, he will just
8:29stop his camps. And but that You know
8:30way that's good, right?
8:32>> I I I feel like if I I mean, maybe I'm
8:34wrong, but the dragon it seemed like
8:36risky to me because maybe it's like zero
8:38mana, no TP, recalling.
8:40And I know that he's not going to check
8:42>> Okay, so you might not finish the
8:44dragon, but it's still good to start it
8:45and pull them because you have nothing
8:46else to do.
8:47>> Oh, you mean so that Udyr is like not
8:49farming, maybe is ganking or something.
8:51>> Yeah.
8:52>> But you have the other option. The other
8:54option is always to just recall.
8:56>> Yeah.
8:57But then okay, this is
8:58This is another another thing. Like
9:01often with Shyvana it happens like you
9:02just can't contest dragon. And then it's
9:05like you wait 40 seconds pretty much to
9:07you can't do anything.
9:09Um while they get this, right? So you
9:12just maybe
9:13>> to get prior on the lane.
9:15>> Yeah, I mean, usually I go top and then
9:18go like right after that.
9:19>> no. No, no, no. You should You should
9:20recall. I mean, I think you should
9:23recall
9:24if you don't want to do dragon ASAP
9:26because I think you could have
9:27tried it ASAP, but you wasted a little
9:29bit of time. Now the best play to do is
9:30recall, get mid prior, and then try to
9:33go to crab literally together. Like
9:36make Anivia you escort you, you know.
9:38>> Yeah, okay.
9:40>> But at this point it's too late.
9:43>> Yeah.
9:43>> The bottom is the worst option.
9:45>> This this also like
9:48As a general rule, you either want to do
9:51reds or push with mid lane and go Drake,
9:54I I assume.
9:55Or would you just do this again?
9:59>> After your base? No, you want you need
10:00to crab.
10:02You want to get a 50/50 on the crab
10:03minimum.
10:05>> Sure, but I mean
10:08Even if the fight is super losing, like
10:10not maybe not in this game, but in
10:11general if you want to
10:13>> It's not going to be super losing
10:14because the thing is your your mid lane
10:16has prior, right?
10:18So he can get you to the crab. That
10:20doesn't mean you have to kill them. It
10:22just means that you can get a smite on
10:24the crab. This is what you need and you
10:25can get it because because one
10:27>> The condition for me to contest this is
10:29my mid lane I can get prior.
10:30>> Yes, if you mid lane like if you was if
10:32you switch mid lanes you really like if
10:33you doomed and you go any mid red or
10:35your blue. Probably in this game it's
10:38>> Like what is the condition for you to do
10:40that?
10:40>> I think red is fine I think red is fine
10:42because your top is winning.
10:44>> Yeah, okay.
10:47>> Okay, play.
10:48I mean yeah, this is obviously disaster
10:50to go here.
10:50>> Yeah, it's
10:51I think this lost the game pretty much
10:53to this so I had done.
10:56>> Yep.
11:00And now he can probably take dragon
11:02crab.
11:03>> Yeah.
11:05At this point I don't go red anymore,
11:07right? Because my my stuff is running.
11:16>> All your camps are so delayed.
11:19>> Yeah, because of the smite.
11:21Yeah, I sometimes do it. I'm not sure.
11:23It's like uh
11:25uh
11:27text
11:32>> I think this crab is good. Actually, you
11:34should check bottom.
11:37Yeah, there's no way to do that.
11:40>> I was like maybe both because they don't
11:42have thumbs, but yeah. Uh
11:44I think it just
11:46>> You know, this is chill. Now, this is
11:47chill.
11:48Don't try to clear it out. Solo is not
11:50good.
11:57Dive top.
11:59You would
12:00>> Dive top.
12:01>> You should dive top.
12:02100%.
12:03>> Cuz you know what Udyr is about,
12:05right?
12:06>> Yeah, or do you? Because
12:08>> He ends up like Like do you actually
12:10know? Because he didn't show up
12:12>> sure if I know him.
12:14Because I mean, I saw that
12:16>> after red, but he didn't have blue. So,
12:17that means he He after the dragon, he
12:19went from bottom to top.
12:21>> Yeah.
12:23>> So, right now, if you know this, you can
12:25dive top before going back to top.
12:26>> I I think I only know it on the next
12:28clear. I think I realized that uh Okay,
12:31>> But right now, if you know that Udyr is
12:34bottom side going to open bottom side,
12:36you have like a bit of time, right? So,
12:38you can just dive top before Like just
12:41go around because you also saw the ward.
12:43So, you just go through the jungle and
12:45just ult here and probably kill someone
12:47shots here. Yes.
12:48>> And engage with ult or wait for a custom
12:50to think what is like the How do you do
12:52it?
12:53>> Mhm. I think against Irelia, you should
12:56probably just ult. So, you should
12:57counter her with Qs. If you like I don't
12:59It doesn't matter, honestly. Like how
13:00you play it. You can start with normal
13:02or you can start with ult. You can just
13:03like dodge her stun with your ult.
13:04>> Do you think this is so free that I
13:05don't have to worry about the gank?
13:07>> 100%.
13:09This is extremely free. She's very
13:10squishy, right? You just like triple Q
13:11her. Cassiopeia will double you her. She
13:12can't move.
13:14>> Okay.
13:15>> The only thing that could stop you is
13:16Singed from base. So, you should just
13:17walk around
13:18and not go through the ward, right?
13:20>> Yeah.
13:23Okay.
13:25Mhm.
13:26>> I keep wanting
13:26>> Oh, I remember this.
13:27>> Yeah, this is horrible.
13:29>> Yes.
13:29>> I wanted to ignore it but then she
13:31pinged a lot.
13:33And
13:34I feel like I'm a bit insecure in this
13:36high elo lobbies because I'm I feel like
13:38a bit of an outsider.
13:40>> I mean right now?
13:41You could be hovering.
13:43A little bit more.
13:44>> Yeah.
13:45>> No, not not over the wall. You need your
13:46ult for CC. So, you should be hovering
13:49to like to the wall. Because you like
13:50you don't want to arrive with the ult.
13:52You want to have ult like actually hit
13:54them with ult. No? So on this side?
13:57Yes, you want to hit you need to hit
13:58them.
13:59Yeah, keep playing.
14:02And now you could play Yeah, you could
14:03you can play this. If you know he has
14:04egg you can keep walking keep walking
14:06keep walking and then ult ult here.
14:08But this is not a good play by the way.
14:10>> Yeah, it's not
14:11worth it.
14:12>> Like I don't know how OP this ult is
14:13like
14:14if you think you can one shot him when
14:15you hit ult maybe but I don't think so.
14:17>> I think he like I have a lot of gold I
14:19think because I greeted my
14:21I don't know what it's called.
14:23>> X.
14:24>> Yeah.
14:26>> Yeah, this guy has Trinity. So, this is
14:27not good play.
14:28>> Yeah, also didn't realize he was tiger
14:30ult here. I thought like
14:32I wasn't going to die because like
14:34Phoenix doesn't just one shot me but
14:36yeah.
14:37>> Okay, so yeah we shouldn't I think we
14:38shouldn't have Like this can be good
14:40play by the way. If you are there from
14:41the start sure but you weren't so it's
14:43like trying to save this is bad.
14:46Because I need I need I can CC him you
14:48can CC him and then he he will like just
14:50get killed by Anivia.
14:52>> I would be here now. Uh
14:54>> Yeah, if you ult right now you
14:56Anivia is chilling, right? She will just
14:57flash and then
14:59But yeah, it's not like Yeah, this is
15:01like you you try to save a play when
15:03you're too late.
15:03>> Yes, I think this happens. It's better
15:05to
15:06>> Just have to just give it.
15:08>> Yeah.
15:09>> If you were there from the start sure
15:10but you weren't so
15:12Okay, go go keep going.
15:16I mean now you're now now you're [ __ ]
15:18by the way. Before that you were
15:18actually kind of like fine but now
15:20you're [ __ ]
15:21>> Yeah.
15:22I think bottom is also really [ __ ] I
15:25can't really help them either.
15:27They're like
15:2850 CS behind.
15:30>> Yeah, for but the
15:31>> I don't know what I should probably just
15:33go top right. And or like
15:35>> she and she one is very easy to one shot
15:36the ward so you should place sweeper.
15:38>> Yeah.
15:39>> Because because Aussie can't really use
15:41this so most of time your usefulness
15:42comes from just killing wards.
15:48Okay, but the playing again is fine. You
15:50should for sure clear here.
15:52>> Yeah.
15:54I think I look
15:57>> You should go top.
15:59>> Yeah, I was about to say I should I
16:00should look for this afterwards.
16:03>> Check on the Oh, wait, you noticed he's
16:05here.
16:06>> Yeah.
16:07>> Uh you saw him, right? The would you?
16:09>> Um I think we did, yeah.
16:11>> I mean if
16:12>> Or even if we didn't, I think we know
16:13he's he's here, yeah. Yeah.
16:16>> If you notice once you try to kill him,
16:18you can try it.
16:21So I mean if he opens there, you should
16:23just go like you should just go go
16:24through mid with Anivia.
16:27But if you notice he's gone, you should
16:29not face check this.
16:30>> Yeah. I was like, okay, maybe
16:32>> If you notice this face check is for
16:33you, this is win, by the way. You win
16:34this.
16:36Oh, see? Let me see.
16:40Okay, so you mean you now he's out.
16:43>> I mean yeah, but it's just time wasted.
16:45>> Yeah, you can go top side.
16:48>> I should recall here.
16:49>> do it by the way. No, you should recall.
16:50You should You should run to his golems,
16:52at least with raptors.
17:03>> Um have I You think this is okay after
17:05recall? Because I'm too late anyway. Cuz
17:07>> Um you should run Now you should run to
17:09the enemy gromp.
17:12>> After he comes, not before.
17:14>> Yes, after after.
17:17Going mid is against us. Like it's
17:19already done. She's already dead. You
17:21won't help.
17:23This is not good.
17:25>> Yeah.
17:27>> You You want to be there where you have
17:28push right, and you didn't have push
17:31on mid. So, but but you have like you're
17:32you're able to get push on bot and group
17:34with smaller.
17:35So, you can probably get the scuttle.
17:38>> Yeah, I mean this place is just DG.
17:41So, when I see this,
17:43I already know it's cooked.
17:44You would say?
17:45>> Yes, as soon as you see Anivia will not
17:47get out of this fight, you can already
17:49give this up.
17:50>> Okay.
17:56>> Yeah, like I This doesn't look good.
17:58Anivia will die. She has no flash, and
17:59Udyr will reach. So, you're 100 like
18:01this is 100% done. And now, like off
18:04like ulting mid, okay, you're just
18:05giving another free kill, right?
18:07>> Yep.
18:09What happens?
18:10>> So, after this, your options would be
18:12I think gromp option is done already,
18:14because you're pushed out. out, you're
18:15going to be too late. So, you should
18:16just run top.
18:17Right now, run top. Run top. There's
18:19free kill. I mean, she might even die
18:20solo.
18:22>> Yeah, this is horrible.
18:24I think she's going
18:25>> She She does die solo, but maybe you can
18:26get the camp or two.
18:30Oh, actually she doesn't die solo.
18:32So, it would have been
18:33>> Yeah, it's horrible. I should be here.
18:36I give it away, I guess.
18:39>> Yep.
18:43Yes, from there I'm playing. I'm playing
18:44from there.
18:45>> This This crab? Can I go for it?
18:49>> Uh
18:51yes. I think you can You should play
18:52this crab.
18:56Yes, push towards top side, because
18:57there's a Cassio. This is fine.
19:00And I mean,
19:02does Cassio have anything to prevent
19:04like prevent dying to Udyr?
19:05>> Yeah.
19:05>> No, I think it's just She should go farm
19:07here.
19:08>> Yeah, I think I will.
19:12>> Don't help her. Good.
19:16I think the golden situation is really
19:17awkward.
19:19>> It's fine.
19:20I mean you should just try to kill Sona.
19:21>> Oh, I remember this was horror.
19:23>> You should just Yeah, I mean I think
19:25against Singed
19:27I don't know if you can start with old
19:29against him because but if you start
19:30with normal, he will just fling you.
19:33>> I think I got flamed really hard for
19:35this because
19:36I wasn't sure.
19:39I I saw
19:40things on the way I was thought okay.
19:43But
19:46>> Okay, so you go from left side, right?
19:48>> Yeah, I should go left side and I I
19:50don't know I start kiting on the way and
19:52I didn't check map and I was like maybe
19:53she's here and goes here. I didn't
19:56really know where Singed was. It's
19:58It's zoned out.
19:59It was zoned out.
20:00>> Okay, but honestly the she missed No,
20:03no, she misplaces, not you.
20:05You did go left.
20:06>> Yeah, but I should
20:07>> She should just not walk up and get
20:09flinged. I mean yeah.
20:10>> Yeah, and now I'm like salvaging again.
20:12It's like this happens a lot.
20:15>> Yep.
20:17You like the thing is the start of the
20:18misplay is on your misplay but you Yeah,
20:20you your old is too bad.
20:25>> You think I shouldn't even like
20:27>> Huh?
20:27>> You should not do it anymore. Like
20:29>> So this place is very easy, right? She
20:30If she just stays right of him and just
20:32old him and not queue and not walks
20:34mainly range to get flinged, he's stuck
20:35between you and her. So
20:38he's like she's chilling. She She just
20:40needs to chill and not walk up. Right
20:42now she just needs to stay right of him,
20:43not go into the bush.
20:45He was fine maybe but she should
20:46probably just old, not queue.
20:49>> Yeah.
20:51I mean I think she Yeah, you're right.
20:53>> And then you will reach with old.
20:55If she just like slows. But it's okay.
20:56So so she misplaces, this guy is out.
20:58You shouldn't old.
21:00Your old is very important and you
21:01should not old like this.
21:03>> Yeah.
21:06Okay, this is done.
21:08Okay.
21:12>> I mean I don't know if you realize that
21:12your mid lane is an AD carry, I mean
21:13right? So he doesn't really
21:16know how to play Anivia.
21:17>> Oh, yeah, I
21:19don't know if I noticed.
21:22There's also something new like checking
21:24uh live game deployer something.
21:27>> Yeah, it's it's
21:28low-key important by the way.
21:29>> Yeah, I I
21:30I realized.
21:31>> who is actually like real good player
21:34and plays their champs and who is
21:37uh like because this guy is really good
21:39on AD, but if he plays Anivia mid
21:41he's going to be not worth his LP.
21:44Here I think you should start Herald
21:46here by the way.
21:47>> Yeah, I was about to ask.
21:49>> They like you have a little bit more
21:50tempo and it's if they run to the Herald
21:52we just die, but this Herald is worth a
21:54lot, so you can just probably try to
21:55one-shot it.
21:57>> What is like
21:58>> Even if you get a 50/50 on the Herald
21:59it's worth it by the way, like super
22:00worth because this guy is this Herald is
22:02going to be worth 3K gold in total.
22:03>> We're doing it anyway because there are
22:05>> You showed it before, that's the
22:06problem, right?
22:08And you shouldn't fight.
22:10If you fight this it's a toss-up, but
22:11you do win it.
22:12>> No, this is fine now, I think.
22:15>> You can go back.
22:19Do you have vision of Udyr
22:20before going in?
22:24>> I
22:26I thought I I I
22:29was pretty sure that he was a Drake. I'm
22:30not sure how, though.
22:32>> Yeah, I expect the dragon and the Herald
22:33are at the same time. This is perfect
22:35for you because you can get the one
22:37which is going to be 1K shutdown, so
22:39Yeah, you should hit it.
22:40>> I think the top was was just that he
22:42wants the dragon more than the Herald,
22:43so it's fine.
22:44>> you see him. Okay, now you see him, so
22:45you're three for on map side. Yeah,
22:47okay, now it's fine. Like fighting is
22:48okay, not a problem. And the fight is
22:49good, yes.
22:50Yes.
22:50>> I should do it.
22:53>> Especially if you Yeah, I know this
22:54fight is actually very good. Smolder's
22:56on the other side of Sejuani, she will
22:57kill her.
22:58Okay. And now you should hit the Herald
23:00ASAP. Well, don't even touch this wave.
23:03>> Yeah, I was just throwing in for small
23:05door.
23:07Okay, and after this I clear.
23:09>> You're kind of back in the game by the
23:10way after this, so
23:11>> I know I felt pretty good about this,
23:13but uh
23:15I think this game I I mean it's just
23:17I don't know how to play. I cannot
23:19really catch anyone. They're all way too
23:21fast.
23:22>> Keep playing. Keep playing. This game
23:23you can win this game.
23:25>> But do you have like uh
23:28Okay, so what happens to me often this
23:30is actually big problem.
23:33I This is done, yeah? And now okay,
23:35everybody just goes back to chilling,
23:37goes back to farming.
23:39Uh and now I'm like kind of playing AFK.
23:42I I I'm like I know I farm.
23:44I don't know what the plan is. It's like
23:46what's What are you thinking about next
23:49play?
23:49>> Right now you're just farming, so for
23:51the next minute you're just going to
23:52clear all your camps and then you're
23:54going to try to
23:55see for like and then you're going to
23:56try to get a push on lane. Any Any lane
23:59can be any lane and if you can get it,
24:01you can push that and rotate somewhere.
24:02That's what you're doing. Does it
24:05And if nothing is if everything is
24:06covered by the enemy, which may probably
24:08won't be, but if everything is covered,
24:10then you can just wait for dragon.
24:13But for now
24:15I also I think you're like inting with
24:16this
24:18builds. You should go for sure AD. You
24:20have AP mid and top.
24:21>> I also wanted to ask it. Okay, so this
24:23like I play Triforce for like uh 40
24:26games or something and I've been trying
24:28this Shojin Riftmaker and it's kind of
24:31nice because I think like this from
24:34experience I guess on on Shyvana team
24:37fights, very often like you you don't
24:39really do damage with Q's, right? You're
24:42maybe you get on the carry, but they
24:44will flash away, use mobility spell, you
24:46won't get your Q3. And then you two
24:49damage the front line, which is I mean
24:50pretty nice because usually they have
24:52resistances.
24:53So your next best damage option for the
24:55carry is the E, right? And if they flash
24:58away, the E hits twice because it
25:00once on on them and once
25:03at the end of the destination.
25:05And I feel like with AP it does a lot
25:06more.
25:08>> Okay.
25:09I mean, fair enough. This game you have
25:11a lot of AP
25:11>> if it's better or not. I also think like
25:13the AP builds have like a bit more
25:16um variability or versatility. You can
25:19go like Morello or you can go
25:21um the bloodletter or something.
25:25Um
25:26which I bought this game, I think.
25:28Yeah.
25:29>> The point is you're having AP mid and
25:31top, you shouldn't play AP.
25:33Because they can just buy MR.
25:34>> Okay, but the thing is you do magic
25:36damage anyway on everything, right? The
25:39amount of physical damage later like
25:40once I I I used to do Triforce Shojin
25:42and then maybe tank or AP, but at that
25:45point like
25:46>> Okay, imagine Irelia plays with and
25:48Merks and you build
25:49>> I I I know she will, but I my my plan is
25:52to get bloodletter, so I have magic pen
25:54for this.
25:55>> So, even if you have bloodletter, her MR
25:56is still very OP against all of your
25:58team. Like it's This is why in this game
26:00you should not go go AP. Like you can
26:02just build a Trinity Force and then you
26:04can go Shojin and then whatever the [ __ ]
26:05you want.
26:06This game is whatever.
26:08Hm. Generally, I think it's fine to
26:10build this because I don't even feel
26:12like it makes any difference to what you
26:13build on Shyvana.
26:14>> Yeah, I mean, that's kind of true.
26:16Yeah, it's kind of true.
26:17>> I mean, you I feel like you do the same
26:18damage whatever you build. This is how
26:20it feels like.
26:21>> I I I feel like it's just allocated
26:23somewhere else, right? It's This is just
26:25more
26:25>> By the way, I reset, right? You got like
26:283K gold or something.
26:30>> Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know. Oh, this this is
26:32game loser.
26:33>> I mean, I No, I think you should farm as
26:35many camps as possible.
26:37There shouldn't be a bot play, right?
26:38So, Irelia is dead. So, right now you
26:40need to know this is lava What is lava?
26:42You need to get the out. So, you should
26:44look for a recall and not for a fight.
26:47>> Yes, I wasn't looking for a fight. I was
26:48looking for Krugs, to be honest.
26:50>> Okay. Well, let let let me see this. Let
26:52me see this how you play it.
26:53>> But but then I realized that
26:54>> Okay, but the the Crocs are turbo gone.
26:56So
26:57>> Yes.
26:58But now I think it's just
26:59>> Right. So right, you know what should
27:00have happened right now?
27:02Your smaller should push mid.
27:04And you should recall.
27:05And after that, if smaller can base, if
27:08Cassio can base, and you can fight what?
27:16You you literally have three kill gold,
27:17right? You bought full blood letter.
27:18>> Yes, I have I have a lot of gold.
27:20>> Okay.
27:21>> That that's what like my plan was like I
27:23obviously agreed with her and all my
27:25cams were up, so I was like, "Okay, I'll
27:26just do this recall and then I'm really
27:27strong." But I mean this is literally a
27:29free kill, right?
27:31>> Huh?
27:32>> Is it really a free kill right now?
27:33>> Yes, I think I wait for Cassio.
27:36>> Okay, that's fine. You don't have to
27:37commit all that. That's actually good.
27:40Okay, good. Now we need to push out bot
27:42all the way.
27:43All the way. All the way. Push push push
27:45push.
27:45>> with it?
27:45>> I think you should go push with her.
27:47Yes.
27:48>> Um Okay, you know why?
27:50>> Wait.
27:51>> Yeah, you know why? Look at top wave.
27:54>> Yes. You will have time.
27:55>> Okay, so someone will go answer that.
27:57You just killed someone.
27:58Okay?
27:59So if you just run bot right now, worst
28:01case scenario is going to be 3-3.
28:03But you have Harold, so you can still
28:05play 3-3 and they have no temple. You
28:07will right now get what tower if you
28:08just run bot with her.
28:10I mean you don't know if golems are
28:11still up or not, but you should still
28:12just just run it down bot. Right now you
28:14need to bot push.
28:16Until tower. You will get the 0-1 tower.
28:18>> to take this? This is the goal?
28:19>> This is good This is 100% yours.
28:22>> Okay.
28:24>> Impossible for them to defend.
28:26>> estimate this yet.
28:27>> This is 100% yours.
28:29>> It's so difficult for me.
28:30>> Just play like if you just push with
28:32Cassio, this is 100% you might lose this
28:34mid wave for who cares, right?
28:36You can even you could still even run
28:38bot now.
28:39Just hard push bot.
28:41>> I think I'm maybe I do. Or maybe I just
28:44check Crocs.
28:45>> Yeah, you Nautilus and you are both
28:46clueless here.
28:49>> I'm not just here.
28:50I'm kind of running around the whole
28:51game not showing
28:53not sure what to do.
28:54>> Because like top isn't even your play.
28:56Your play is 100% bot side.
28:59I mean yes,
29:00is it possible for them to take a
29:01counter play here?
29:03>> I mean they can burn maybe.
29:07>> Okay,
29:09good actually like that's a good call
29:11but they have no tempo, right? So if
29:13they do the Nash
29:14it's a big throw angle for them.
29:16>> If if I see somehow make it you just
29:17have to follow
29:18for a bot and they start Nash if it's
29:21not free kill would you
29:23walk all this way or no?
29:25Or just commit?
29:27>> It depends. I think in this case Cassio
29:29has deeper vision she can just keep
29:30pushing.
29:31And then you can start walking after
29:33placing the Herald.
29:35Sure. But there wasn't Nash up I think.
29:36If you if you instantly push bot there
29:38like Nash will spawn 5 seconds or
29:40something after you kill the power so
29:42you would be fine.
29:43>> Yeah.
29:45And Nautilus is I think really awkward.
29:46I was
29:49We we end up doing Nash instead of
29:51>> Yeah, this is horrible. Like you cannot
29:52do Nash.
29:54>> I mean I think we we end up trading Nash
29:57for Drake and it's just uh
29:59I didn't call it.
30:08>> Your map side is really awkward. By the
30:10way this is probably good.
30:11>> Is this this cams is it still fine or is
30:14there something else that we are missing
30:16like
30:16>> No, no, no. I mean you should kill these
30:17cams and then you should So you have two
30:19options here either try to kill mid
30:21which I don't like because it it's hard
30:24or you go push top through.
30:26>> Yes.
30:28>> And once like once again do you
30:29understand why?
30:32I mean why can you push top? Go back go
30:34go back a little like 15 seconds go go
30:36back.
30:36>> I mean they already died.
30:38>> They already died. Oh oh there's bot so
30:40you will 100% have a numbers on the top
30:42side.
30:43>> Yes.
30:43>> Even if they have mid push.
30:45You will like worst case is three free,
30:47right? But they're entering into your
30:48top side push, so it's hard for them.
30:50So right now just like ping Anivia push
30:52this top wave and go there with her
30:54together, you can most likely get
30:56something.
31:00But even if you herald, it's okay
31:01because Udyr can't be there.
31:03So you force the enemy bot lane to go
31:06mid and to go top.
31:07And you will get next wave mid push.
31:10>> How you think
31:12they can like do this and this?
31:14Meanwhile, or is it possible?
31:15>> They can only They can only take the bot
31:17tower.
31:18But I feel like if he goes for the bot
31:19tower, you're happy with it because you
31:21will probably win the top fight and then
31:22you will get Nash.
31:24>> What if they don't fight at all? They
31:25just give it and take this and this.
31:28You don't think it's
31:28>> get mid. No, wait. How they How they
31:30getting mid? Your smaller isn't going
31:31top.
31:33>> Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah.
31:35>> Like you I mean, you're going top with
31:36Nautilus S3 and if they rotate from mid
31:39Like I mean, it's Anivia you naut
31:41against Singed and Lulu and Sivir which
31:45is not losing if you have push.
31:47So you're chilling.
31:48And smaller like will get the next wave
31:49if they come. So there's no losing here.
31:52>> Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
31:57>> But if you're just recalling right now,
31:58I mean, yeah, you're not getting really
31:59anything.
32:00>> Yeah, it's just for this.
32:04>> Okay. I think I think I think I
32:06But you should push this and the next
32:08wave.
32:09>> I think I was recalling for the bot
32:11wave. I'm not sure if it's correct.
32:13Because no one is catching this right.
32:16>> No, this is like if you don't want to
32:16play aggressive top, this is the correct
32:18play.
32:22>> I take the next one as well.
32:23>> Yes, you should. And you should take the
32:25next one as well.
32:28I think you should take the next one as
32:29well and you're you're you're Sivir like
32:31your cousin should just open top side.
32:33>> Is there ever a a where I end up taking
32:36this? I don't feel like this is
32:37possible.
32:38>> Yes, because I like they can't can they
32:40do Nash 4 v 5? What do you think?
32:43>> I
32:44I'm not sure. [snorts]
32:46>> I think they can't. I think I think they
32:48can't do it because you have Cassio and
32:49you have like Anivia and you have
32:51Smolder. They will They will [ __ ] like
32:53Oh, they outrange him. They will just
32:54poke him to death. And you already have
32:55this bush. So, there is no way they can
32:57just start Nash.
32:59The The thing you should be worried
33:00about if you push bot is Udyr is coming
33:01and killing you. That's the worst case.
33:05That's the only thing that could They
33:06could do, but they can't start Nash.
33:08>> And in my mind, okay, like when is this
33:10When is this like
33:11when
33:12do you
33:16when are you scared that you are so far
33:17behind that this is actually losing?
33:20Because like that they can actually just
33:22force it. Because I see my Smolder is
33:24like 100 CS behind.
33:26And
33:28since this
33:29like ghost flash just flips someone and
33:32it's GG. The Udyr also wants us to
33:34baron. I feel like
33:35>> Okay, so yes.
33:38You will So, it's it's They can maybe
33:40get Nash, okay, but it will be a messy
33:42Nash because all of your majors are up.
33:44So, which means they It's very hard for
33:46the enemies to team fight. I don't think
33:47they can just kill anyone except maybe
33:49Nautilus.
33:50Your Your majors outrange all of them.
33:52So, they will It will be a very messy
33:53fight and you will get bot tower. And
33:55maybe even the second one if you fight
33:57it long enough. That's why you should
33:58like right now create a pressure point
34:00bot lane.
34:01That's why. The only reason.
34:03Because there is a high chance the
34:05enemies start Nash and they misplay.
34:09Because it's not easy. 4 v 5 like you
34:11need to count Nash as an extra person,
34:13right? So, it's basically 5 v 5.
34:16>> Yes. Yes. Is there like if this takes
34:19long enough, is there a rotation here or
34:22would you always push?
34:23>> mean Of course you you want to watch the
34:25fight and if you if you see your team is
34:27super winning, you can rotate towards it
34:29and take it yourself.
34:31If your team is like winning hard
34:32enough, sure.
34:33But for now for now, your best play is
34:35to push down at bot wave, maybe even
34:37spawn the herald, and then not show.
34:39Let your herald push a bit, see what the
34:41enemies react to. If they come bot and
34:42kill you, then you need to run. If they
34:44don't come bot, if they if you see them
34:45starting nash,
34:47okay, you can keep pushing for a bit.
34:48>> It's also this I think
34:51So now that I'm top, do we just do nash,
34:53but they're taking the drake, I think.
34:56And since they have soul in the siege,
34:58>> They could just kill you.
35:01What's soul in GG, by the way?
35:05>> Um
35:06>> I don't think in this game their their
35:07soul isn't that like it's infernal soul.
35:09They can't really proc it that good.
35:11I think you should hit this, and you
35:12should try to get out.
35:14>> I mean, we did you think this is good
35:15trade?
35:17>> I think if you're behind like this, it's
35:18actually totally fine.
35:20>> Okay.
35:21>> But
35:22>> But you would still rather prefer like
35:23if if
35:24>> You should have done the bot wave first.
35:27>> like give this even, maybe get the drake
35:29if I'm not sure if it's like
35:31>> No, no, you're not giving the nash. No,
35:32no, you're not giving the nash.
35:34Your team was top side fully, you're not
35:35giving nash. You just try to get bot
35:37tower. That's That's like the enemies
35:39They could just They could just give the
35:41bot tower.
35:41>> I mean, if this takes long enough, maybe
35:42I don't do this, I do dragon instead.
35:45Like maybe there's
35:46>> course. After like afterward, okay,
35:48let's say they take nash, so two people
35:49died in their team, and the dragon is
35:50spawned. Of course, you trade dragon
35:51plus bot tower
35:53uh for nash. It's good trade as well.
35:57Uh but I
35:58Go back. Go back. You're into the nash.
35:59You should push top.
36:02>> Instantly?
36:03>> Yes.
36:06Like your Cassio is actually playing the
36:08game, but you aren't.
36:09>> Yeah.
36:10>> You should go to push top right now. You
36:12don't need to all of these people to
36:13play bits.
36:15This tower needs to die. This top tower.
36:18Until it's or someone needs to or
36:19enemies need to defend the tower. But
36:22what happens is they don't defend, and
36:23you don't get it.
36:26>> Like
36:26>> because your champion is like I mean
36:28Cassio just doesn't push fast. Like she
36:30doesn't deal any damage to the tower.
36:31Like she look at her struggling.
36:33>> Yeah.
36:34>> She doesn't push this tower fast enough.
36:36She needs another wave.
36:41Okay, you now keep playing.
36:43And now we should open like you should
36:44push your camp like farm your camps.
36:45Don't go mid.
36:46You're useless here.
36:48You're not looking for a fight.
36:49>> want to me to to farm my top side camps?
36:51>> So
36:52you have two options. Farm your top side
36:54camps or run bot with Anivia.
36:57>> I mean I was this this was the goal, I
36:59think.
37:00>> If you fine, but I mean I think I would
37:02prefer my top side camps first.
37:04But you will be too late for both.
37:07>> Okay.
37:08>> But the the thing is you need your
37:10Cassio, right?
37:11So until your Cassio is ready for a
37:13fight, this is how disgusting by the
37:14way. Yes. Until your Cassio is ready for
37:16a fight, you you're not looking for a
37:18fight. So that's why I would do my top
37:19side camps.
37:21>> Yes.
37:21>> And I think you one shot them and then
37:23you can like arrive with Cassio together
37:25on your bot wave.
37:26Because she will base take tower base
37:28and she can take your bot.
37:30And if you're there at the same time,
37:31you don't you get tier two top, you get
37:33tier one bot, you're actually almost
37:34even in gold. Okay, they have infernal
37:35soul, which sucks, but your team comp
37:37isn't that. So you can win.
37:39But this fight extremely legal.
37:41>> Yeah. I mean I don't think anyone was
37:43looking for a fight really except maybe
37:45Nautilus.
37:48>> Yeah, but you're ulting in for a fight.
37:50Like this is
37:50>> Yes. I I feel like this this happened
37:52like two or three times this game and
37:54also every other game where I just ulted
37:56in on on a player that I know was bad.
37:58Like I'm not looking for something, I
38:00just go.
38:01>> Okay. So you're not assisting, right? Or
38:03whatever. Like Smolder or whoever.
38:05Someone is inting.
38:07If this cannot be a winning fight. You
38:09you agree?
38:10>> Yeah, of course. Yeah.
38:11>> Okay. So just because he's inting
38:13doesn't mean
38:14like you make it worse. You make it
38:16worse, so yeah.
38:18It's the same as when the Anivia was
38:19dying. You can't like this wasn't a
38:20winning fight.
38:21So the only thing you can do is to let
38:23her die and not lose double.
38:27And I think now the game is over. Yeah,
38:29now the now now is GG.
38:31>> I think there's
38:36There is even something.
38:40>> But your biggest like literally your
38:41biggest mistake was to [ __ ] smite the
38:43[ __ ] golem like not smite the red.
38:44Literally
38:45>> [laughter]
38:45>> like I if I think about this entire game
38:47the entire game will be so free if you
38:48just smite the red then you will be both
38:515 seconds or 6 seconds earlier so that
38:52which means you can contest the ground
38:53with your bot push.
38:55And then you will probably win the game
38:56cuz if you get the ground you get six
38:58you get crab you get dragon.
39:00There is [ __ ]
39:02>> Nice.
39:04Hm. When was it?
39:06>> Just because you weren't fast enough on
39:08because I mean you could have just
39:09skipped the golems and invade instead.
39:11This works as well but if you if your
39:12golems are faster you can literally do
39:14your golems and invade, right? Do you
39:15see this?
39:16>> Yes.
39:17>> see this angle?
39:18>> Yes.
39:19>> All you need is push, right? You need
39:20push mid and bot and you have
39:23Then you what was freezing? Like this is
39:25freezing like if the enemies are
39:26freezing this is your push, right?
39:28This is wonderful for you.
39:31This is beautiful for you to have to
39:33invade.
39:35>> Also like the gank after is like
39:39Okay, I mean so you would say like the
39:43Hm.
39:44Okay, so
39:46obviously I want to change something in
39:49in in future games.
39:51Um and all of this like mid game [ __ ]
39:53I'm just
39:54I know it's it's
39:56for for me it's random and I maybe
39:58listened because
40:00I
40:02people in the lobby I I feel like
40:03they're so much better than me.
40:05>> No one knows no one knows no one knows
40:07no one knows.
40:08>> Yes.
40:09>> But like I mean you I don't know if you
40:10see my games but no one knows what
40:11they're talking about.
40:12No one.
40:14>> Hm.
40:15Sure, I don't need though.
40:17>> [laughter]
40:17>> Yeah, but but okay, then you just need
40:19to like because in now in the replay you
40:21can easily say oh what the [ __ ] it was
40:23called like 4 or 5 I ulted in or you can
40:26see oh okay my Anivia was dead. Ulting
40:28in front of them doesn't do anything.
40:30So, you can say that.
40:34>> But then like what what would the
40:35takeaway be here from this game? Is this
40:37this smite is the takeaway? And if you
40:39pushing
40:40>> smite, if you like so you you know Udyr
40:43has less tempo than you.
40:45>> Yes, of course. I understand why. Like
40:46>> Okay, this is easy to understand. Okay,
40:48so you [ __ ] up your own tempo by 6
40:50seconds for free be PVE.
40:52>> Yes.
40:52>> Okay, so we have to be a little bit
40:54quicker
40:56on our own tempo and if the enemy jungle
40:58does enter tempo, we want to use this
41:00for something. So, and what we need is
41:02we need prior bot
41:04and in best case prior mid as well.
41:06If you have that, you can go contest the
41:08camp because you can go there, right?
41:11And if
41:12like either hit the camp yourself or if
41:14he's doing it you will always have a way
41:15out because your mid lane or bot lane is
41:17behind you. Because they have prior,
41:19right?
41:20>> Yeah.
41:21>> That's what because you won't get
41:22collapsed. Like you will like the enemy
41:24bot lane will be behind Udyr. So, it's
41:25just a front to back on both sides where
41:28you can get a smite off on the ground.
41:31And if you get it, you literally just
41:32win the game. If you don't get it,
41:34okay, Udyr is like
41:36even
41:37and the enemy bot had to move for like
41:39for nothing.
41:39>> Yes, it's like
41:40>> But it's still a free try.
41:42>> Yeah.
41:42>> If exactly a free win like 50% chance to
41:45win the game.
41:46>> Yes.
41:46>> Which is insane.
41:48And you can get this by the way every
41:49single clear.
41:51You get that?
41:51>> Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know.
41:52>> next play you can do the golems again
41:54and go invite again if you have prior.
41:56>> Yes, I have
41:56>> try to win the game.
41:57>> Yes.
41:58Um
41:59And and for the mid game you would say
42:01the lesson is to like push push
42:03>> Your like your macro sense is not is not
42:06>> Yes, it's
42:06>> You need to realize if if so if a wave
42:09is crashing at the enemy tier two,
42:11you someone will go and catch this wave.
42:13That means your Cassio will have
42:14infinite amount of time. The best play
42:16to do is to force on the other side.
42:18Always.
42:20>> And you kind of want me to grab my
42:23Cassio and move together, yes?
42:25And in general?
42:26>> No. If your Cassio has pushed towards
42:28the tier two tower which happened once I
42:31want you to force bot tier one.
42:35>> Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. I was thinking
42:37different situation. Yes, yes, yes, I
42:38remember.
42:40Sure. Yeah, makes sense. Um
42:44Hm.
42:45Uh
42:46Last thing, because you said Shyvana is
42:49not blind pickable.
42:51>> Yeah.
42:51>> But what what do you say is like uh if
42:54if you're one tricking, right? And I
42:56chose I chose this champion
42:57>> Sylas
42:59>> Yes, every game.
43:00>> Okay, you're fine. Then you're fine.
43:02>> So, would you like because I first pick
43:04it right now because I already know it.
43:06Is I I I should keep doing it?
43:09>> I mean honestly, it's okay.
43:11I mean if you ban Sylas, I think Udyr is
43:13probably your second worst match up.
43:16I don't like I'm not 100% sure if I can
43:18beat Shyvana.
43:19>> It was really hard.
43:20>> But I have played against Udyr and it
43:22was unplayable. I like I just can't kill
43:24him and he can always kill me.
43:25And always force my ult.
43:27So, it was pretty bad. I don't I got I
43:29don't It's he's just a stat checker
43:30which wins against you which is pretty
43:31[ __ ] [ __ ] So
43:34uh
43:36Everything else is playable, I think.
43:38Like And then there's like team comps
43:39that you just can't play into like Karma
43:41or [ __ ] like this, right? You just You
43:43just get countered and blah.
43:45>> Yeah. Um by the way, do you play Shyvana
43:47actually right now? I haven't watched
43:48your stream in a while.
43:49>> I do. I have like 50 games easily in
43:51her. It's just
43:52>> Okay. Do you build the same thing every
43:53game? Like always try first?
43:55>> I build Trinity, I build
43:58Shojin, and then I experiment.
44:01>> Yes, I did the same.
44:02>> be
44:05Can be
44:05>> Yes. I
44:07I would if it would be cool for you to
44:09try like Shojin into like the Haunting
44:12Guise items and Duskblade of Draktharr,
44:14I think is pretty nice.
44:15>> I tried it at the very start and it felt
44:17very good.
44:18I remember.
44:19>> Yes, I I think like it because the team
44:21fights is like you're eating so much
44:22damage when enemy carry flashes away or
44:24something because you hit it twice,
44:26right? So, actually also your ult has
44:29100% AP ratio, your E also and your W.
44:33And the only AD thing is like your auto
44:35attacks like your
44:37usually the big auto attack you get on
44:40the tank only
44:41because
44:42you know?
44:43So, I feel like the AP is just way more
44:46>> I mean, I don't know if I'm playing it
44:47different, but I do kill frontline very
44:50easily as Shyvana.
44:51>> Of course you do. Of course you do, but
44:53it's like
44:54the
44:56for a frontline eventually is also
44:58quicker to kill if you have like Rylai's
44:59Crystal Scepter, right? And the the Q
45:01burst that you would get from like the
45:03Trinity Force which is like all this
45:05burst item, right?
45:07It's not really
45:10used to its full potential if you hit it
45:11on frontline. It's of course it's really
45:13nice because usually you end up like
45:16switching targets
45:17to frontline anyway, but you do true
45:19damage, so the burst from Trinity Force
45:22is not really
45:22>> I will try it when I'm on them. Yes.
45:24>> Also
45:25try I haven't tried it a lot, but into
45:28like full squishy comps, I think Lich
45:29Bane is an item by the way. Um
45:33And yeah, some like Lich Bane Cosmic
45:36Drive Rabbadon something. I will give it
45:38a try as well, but yeah.
45:40>> Yeah,
45:41full I mean, I don't know. I don't know
45:42about full AP.
45:44>> I I think they're like okay for example
45:46if they're like
45:47>> you go ahead and experiment, you know?
45:48Like I mean, you won't have any deaths,
45:50so you will have enough games. You can
45:51experiment, but I don't I will I won't
45:53do that. It will take me 50 games to
45:54find out if it's barely viable.
45:56>> Okay, so because I think into like five
45:59range champions or something is kind of
46:01like the only thing you can do is be
46:03eating your food.
46:04It's not really
46:07much use for you.
46:08>> Yeah.
46:09All right.
46:10>> Okay.
46:10>> I hope you learned something.
46:12>> I did, yes. It's like the mid-game stuff
46:14about pushing waves. I usually default
46:16to just farming my camps, be brain AFK,
46:19then something happens and I just I just
46:21listen, even though I know it's bad.
46:24And obviously, okay, this is also just
46:28I do it randomly every every game.
46:30>> Something different. So, okay, I don't
46:31know. Right.
46:32>> This is easy fix. This will be very
46:34useful. Yeah.
46:35>> All right. Thank you very much.
46:36>> And good luck for your games.
46:38>> Yes, thanks.
46:40>> Yeah, have a good day.
46:41>> You too. Bye.
46:42>> Bye-bye.
46:45All right. Who's the next one?
46:47Who's the next one?
46:51That was 800 like that guy actually
46:53low-key high elo by the way. He's low he
46:54could easily play with me.
46:56Okay, so hello, I want coaching.
46:59Someone asking on Discord.
47:01500 LP over bro. Why are all What are
47:03all these high elo players, bro? Is the
47:05course more of this? Uh the course does
47:07do all all of this, yeah, kind of
47:09low-key low-key low-key, yeah. But this
47:11was a bit a little bit higher elo. The
47:13course is I go into the I go into the
47:16macro aspect of how I see it.
47:18So like that game where you where you
47:19have to push and stuff.

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