Mourinho Was Right All Along — Transcript

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1. 0:00I think we still have a chance to win
2. 0:01that league, because maybe the
3. 0:03punishment Man City with points and
4. 0:05maybe we win that league.
5. 0:07>> For 8 years a man who had won two
6. 0:09Champions Leagues kept defending [music]
7. 0:10a second place finish with Manchester
8. 0:12United and almost nobody understood why
9. 0:14it mattered so much to him. [music]
10. 0:15>> One of the best jobs of my career to
11. 0:18finish second with Manchester United in
12. 0:20the Premier League. I keep saying this
13. 0:22because people doesn't know what is
14. 0:23going behind the scenes.
15. 0:24>> Then on September 25th, 2026, Rio
16. 0:27Ferdinand posts a message [music] and
17. 0:29another for Jose.
18. 0:30>> What's Jose talking about? But now years
19. 0:32to come, you're right.
20. 0:33>> And maybe there is a chance of we win
21. 0:35that league, no?
22. 0:35>> Less than an hour earlier news broke
23. 0:37that Manchester City had been found
24. 0:39liable on 114 of 115 Premier League
25. 0:43charges.
26. 0:44>> I'm not saying Man City is guilty. I'm
27. 0:46saying if you are not guilty, you don't
28. 0:48pay. Why you pay 8 or 9 million or
29. 0:51whatever if you are not guilty?
30. 0:53>> In August 2018, [music]
31. 0:54Manchester United lose 3 to 0 to
32. 0:56Tottenham at Old Trafford. Four days
33. 0:58later, he is asked whether he is still a
34. 1:00great manager.
35. 1:01>> Three for me and two for them.
36. 1:04Respect. Respect.
37. 1:06>> At the time it sounded like classic
38. 1:07Mourinho protecting his reputation after
39. 1:09finishing 19 points [music] behind City.
40. 1:11But he never let that season go. And
41. 1:13once United sacked him, Mourinho finally
42. 1:15explained why that second place meant so
43. 1:17much to him. People don't know what is
44. 1:19going on behind the scenes. At first,
45. 1:21everyone assumed he was talking about
46. 1:22Manchester United. And inside United,
47. 1:25Mourinho's problem was simple. He was
48. 1:27being held responsible for closing the
49. 1:29gap to City without having the power to
50. 1:31build the team he believed could close
51. 1:33it.
52. 1:33>> Can we buy six, seven players at the
53. 1:36same time? Can we invest 600, 700? No.
54. 1:40>> So what did Guardiola have on the other
55. 1:41side of Manchester? After his first
56. 1:43trophyless season, Guardiola was allowed
57. 1:45to rebuild almost his entire backline.
58. 1:48>> He has Zabaleta and Kolarov, two very
59. 1:50good players, but more than 30 years
60. 1:53old. He wants to replace. He doesn't
61. 1:55replace with two, he replace with three.
62. 1:57>> In November 2018, leaked City emails
63. 2:00suggest that some money presented as
64. 2:02sponsorship income actually came from
65. 2:03the club's owner. Suddenly, what
66. 2:05Mourinho had been hinting at behind the
67. 2:07scenes did not sound so easy to dismiss.
68. 2:09>> One thing is a big club and another
69. 2:10thing is a big football team. And now,
70. 2:12Manchester City, they buy full backs for
71. 2:14the price of the strikers. So, when you
72. 2:16you speak about big football big
73. 2:17football clubs, you are speaking about
74. 2:20the history of the club.
75. 2:21>> Three years earlier, Mourinho is leading
76. 2:23Chelsea in a title race against City
77. 2:25when his rival signs Wilfried Bony in
78. 2:27the middle of the season. He says Bony
79. 2:29is a good player and that he has no
80. 2:30problem if City have the money and
81. 2:32respect the rules. Then he adds one more
82. 2:34line, "Rules are different for City." A
83. 2:36few weeks later, when Mourinho is asked
84. 2:38how clubs that break financial fair play
85. 2:40should be punished, he does not call for
86. 2:41a fine or a transfer ban, but for the
87. 2:44one punishment that can rewrite a title
88. 2:46race, points deductions. [music]
89. 2:47This was not a problem Mourinho
90. 2:49discovered after finishing 19 points
91. 2:51behind City. He was already questioning
92. 2:53the rules while he was still at Chelsea.
93. 2:55By December 2017, Mourinho's frustration
94. 2:57was becoming much more specific. City
95. 2:59had Joe Hart and Guardiola signed
96. 3:01Claudio Bravo. [music] When Bravo did
97. 3:03not work out, Ederson arrived.
98. 3:05>> He has the goalkeeper of England. He
99. 3:06doesn't like him.
100. 3:08He buy the goalkeeper of Barcelona. He
101. 3:10doesn't like him. He buy another one.
102. 3:13Now he likes.
103. 3:14>> And then he says the line the media will
104. 3:15dig up years later.
105. 3:17>> And there is no limit, there is no
106. 3:18financial fair play, there is nothing.
107. 3:21You do what you want. It's hard. So, I
108. 3:24think my my boys, they are doing what
109. 3:26they
110. 3:27they can.
111. 3:28>> By then, that frustration had already
112. 3:30spilled into the tunnel. After City won
113. 3:32at Old Trafford to go 11 points clear,
114. 3:34their celebrations ended in a
115. 3:35confrontation between Mourinho and the
116. 3:37same goalkeeper he would soon use as an
117. 3:40example of the difference between the
118. 3:41two clubs. And after United went out to
119. 3:43Sevilla, he arrived with notes to
120. 3:45explain what he believed was really
121. 3:46separating the two clubs. [music]
122. 3:48>> Do you know what is also heritage?
123. 3:50Otamendi, Kevin De Bruyne, Fernandinho,
124. 3:54Silva, Sterling, Aguero. They are
125. 3:57investments from the past.
126. 3:59>> In his view, the difference between
127. 4:01United and City had been built long
128. 4:03before either he or Guardiola arrived.
129. 4:05Before Mourinho arrived, United [music]
130. 4:07had finished seventh, fourth, fifth, and
131. 4:09sixth across four seasons.
132. 4:11>> In the last 7 years, the worst position
133. 4:14of Manchester City in the Premier League
134. 4:16was fourth.
135. 4:17>> We cannot act like them.
136. 4:20It's not possible. Not possible.
137. 4:22>> Before they could clinch the title
138. 4:24against United at the Etihad, he said
139. 4:26City would be champions because they
140. 4:27deserved it. At halftime, United were
141. 4:29two to zero down, and the Etihad was
142. 4:32preparing for the party. In the dressing
143. 4:34room, Mourinho told his players he did
144. 4:35not want them to be the clown standing
145. 4:37there while City lifted the trophy.
146. 4:39[music] United came back to win three to
147. 4:41two. After the game, he congratulates
148. 4:43Pep on a title that is not yet
149. 4:45mathematically won.
150. 4:46>> Manchester City have been banned from
151. 4:49the Champions League for the next two
152. 4:51seasons for breaking financial fair play
153. 4:55rules.
154. 4:55>> Mourinho left United, but the warnings
155. 4:57he had been making about City did not
156. 4:59disappear with him. For the first time,
157. 5:01the second place finish he had defended
158. 5:03for years no longer sounded like just
159. 5:05Mourinho protecting his reputation. That
160. 5:07moment did not last.
161. 5:09>> They won't be banned.
162. 5:09>> No.
163. 5:10Who would they think? Who would they
164. 5:12trust with the with my chairman, with my
165. 5:15CEO? Who would they explain to me? I
166. 5:16trust them.
167. 5:17>> The Court of Arbitration for Sport
168. 5:19overturned City's European ban. The club
169. 5:21was still fined for failing to cooperate
170. 5:23with the investigation, but the ban was
171. 5:25gone. Mourinho was no longer joking.
172. 5:27>> In relation to the decision, I think uh
173. 5:30in any case, is a disgraceful
174. 5:34decision.
175. 5:35>> Mourinho's logic was simple. If City
176. 5:37were not guilty, they should not pay a
177. 5:39single pound. If they were guilty, they
178. 5:41should have been thrown out of Europe.
179. 5:42Pep answered him directly, saying
180. 5:44Mourinho and every other manager should
181. 5:46understand that City had been wronged
182. 5:48and that the club deserved an apology.
183. 5:50The UEFA case was over, but Mourinho's
184. 5:52argument was not. When the Premier
185. 5:53League brought its own case against
186. 5:55Manchester City in 2023, the media
187. 5:58immediately went back to one of his old
188. 5:59lines. There is no financial fair play.
189. 6:02And by 2024, Mourinho was no longer just
190. 6:04talking about that season.
191. 6:06>> If I go into into that analyze, I I I
192. 6:09have to ask if the team that finished
193. 6:12second in 2018 is going to be champion,
194. 6:14yes or no?
195. 6:15>> He jokes that United owe him a bonus and
196. 6:17a medal for a title he never won. At
197. 6:19Anfield, Guardiola holds up six fingers
198. 6:21for his six Premier League titles. And
199. 6:23when reporters remind him that Mourinho
200. 6:25won three, Pep's answer is simple. Jose
201. 6:27has three, he has [music] six. Mourinho
202. 6:30replies from Istanbul, but he is no
203. 6:31longer counting titles. I won fairly and
204. 6:34cleanly.
205. 6:34>> You can be a rich club and buy the best
206. 6:37players in the world, [music] but you
207. 6:38cannot buy class. And by by they they
208. 6:41showed that clearly.
209. 6:42>> While Mourinho spent [music] years
210. 6:43questioning what was behind City's
211. 6:45success, Guardiola's position was much
212. 6:47simpler. He asked the people running the
213. 6:49club what had happened, they gave him
214. 6:51their explanation, and he [music]
215. 6:52believed them. But he had also made one
216. 6:54promise.
217. 6:55>> I said to them, "If you lied to me, the
218. 6:57day after I am not here, I will be out
219. 6:59and I will not be your friend anymore. I
220. 7:01put my faith in you because I believe
221. 7:03you 100% from day one, and I defend the
222. 7:05club because [music] of that."
223. 7:07>> By the time the ruling came, Guardiola
224. 7:09had already left the Manchester City
225. 7:11bench. But Guardiola may never have been
226. 7:12the most important part of Mourinho's
227. 7:14argument.
228. 7:15>> I like him a lot and he knows that. He
229. 7:17likes me and I know that. It's not true
230. 7:19that I want Man City [music] to be
231. 7:22relegated. It's true
232. 7:24that I like justice.
233. 7:25>> For eight years, it looked like Mourinho
234. 7:27was trying to explain why he lost to
235. 7:29Guardiola. The Premier League case goes
236. 7:31back [music] to the 2009-10 season,
237. 7:33seven years before Pep even arrived at
238. 7:35Manchester City.
239. 7:36>> I think [music] sport is basically
240. 7:38to win by respecting the rules.
241. 7:41>> But Guardiola was never the beginning of
242. 7:43the argument. He was simply the man
243. 7:44standing on the other side when it
244. 7:46became personal. Now Guardiola is gone
245. 7:48from the bench [music]
246. 7:48and Mourinho is long gone from United
247. 7:51and the argument is still alive. For
248. 7:52eight years Mourinho kept defending a
249. 7:54second place finish everyone else
250. 7:56thought was settled. In 2026 it still
251. 7:59isn't.