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0:00I don't care about my children.
0:02>> You do not.
0:03>> Cuz I don't want to tell you somebody
0:04name I don't know.
0:06>> Absolutely.
0:06>> Cuz I don't know their name.
0:07>> You went with them, Jasmine.
0:09>> That don't mean nothing.
0:16>> On July 21st, 2020, officers in
0:19Milwaukee responded to a call that
0:21quickly turned into a homicide
0:22investigation. Inside [music] the
0:24residence, a 2-year-old girl had been
0:26fatally shot. The child was the daughter
0:28of Jasmine Daniels. In the early stages
0:31of the investigation, the [music]
0:32circumstances surrounding the shooting
0:34were not immediately clear. Detectives
0:36had to determine how the firearm was
0:38accessed, [music] who handled it, and
0:39what led up to the moment the gun was
0:41fired. In cases like this, investigators
0:43rely on both physical evidence [music]
0:45and the statements given in the first
0:47hours after the incident to establish a
0:49timeline. Daniels was present in the
0:51home when the shooting occurred, and her
0:53account of what happened became a
0:54central focus for investigators. As
0:56[music] officers worked to reconstruct
0:58the events inside the residence, they
1:00needed to compare her version of events
1:02with [music] what the evidence would
1:04ultimately show. She was brought in for
1:06questioning as detectives [music] began
1:08pressing for details. What led up to the
1:10shooting, how the weapon was handled,
1:12and what exactly happened in the moments
1:14before her [music] daughter was killed.
1:16This is the interrogation of Jasmine
1:18Daniels.
1:33So, so I'm Jake and this is Dan.
1:37>> Nice to meet you.
1:37>> Nice to meet you.
1:39>> Sorry. What's going on right now? All
1:40right.
1:41>> So, me and Dan want to talk to you about
1:43what's going on. Uh,
1:46>> you want your [snorts]
1:49You ever been arrested before?
1:51>> No.
1:52>> No. Uh-uh.
1:54>> First time.
1:55>> Yeah.
1:56>> Okay. So, I want to get some background
1:58information on you. I want to get like
1:59your dad's name, uh, all the kids'
2:02names, your siblings, like brothers and
2:04sisters, and, uh, and all that. Uh, and
2:08then we want to talk to you about what
2:09happened. Okay? But every time someone
2:11gets arrested
2:13when they're in our custody,
2:16we have to read them their rights. Okay?
2:19So, before I start talking to you, I got
2:20to read you your rights real quick.
2:22Okay.
2:24You have the right to remain silent.
2:26Anything you say can and will be used
2:28against you in the court of law. You
2:30have the right to consult with the war
2:31before questioning and to have a lawyer
2:33present with you during questioning.
2:35If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer,
2:37one would be appointed to represent you
2:38at public expense before or during any
2:40question if you so wish. If you decide
2:43to answer question now without a word
2:44present, you have the right to stop the
2:46questioning and remain silent anytime
2:47you wish and the right to ask for and
2:50have a word anytime you wish. including
2:53during the question.
2:55>> Do you understand each of these rights?
2:58It's got to be a yes or no.
2:59>> Yes.
3:00>> Okay. Do you want to talk to us now?
3:06>> No.
3:06>> What's it?
3:07>> No.
3:08>> You don't?
3:09>> No.
3:10>> Okay.
3:26I will let you
3:33>> I will
3:35>> what's that
3:37I would like a lawyer and in this
3:40process
3:42I will
3:44>> you want an attorney uh president return
3:46the Yeah.
3:54>> Question.
3:56>> What's that?
3:57>> Next question.
3:58>> So, you let me make I want to make sure
3:59it's correct. You don't want an attorney
4:01now. You don't want to know. You want
4:02want us to talk to you. Is that correct?
4:16I don't need a lawyer. Don't step around
4:18for a second. Go get a lawyer.
4:21>> Here you go.
4:40Don't you happen to have one here? No.
4:43No, we don't have one here right now.
4:47>> We can try and contact the public
4:49defenders office in the morning.
4:51>> How long would this take?
4:52>> Well, it's 3:00 a.m. right now. I mean,
4:56lawyers come in probably 9:00 or so.
5:03>> Oh, okay. I'll talk.
5:06I'm sorry, Kelly. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
5:10>> I just have to verify this one. So, so
5:12you don't you do not want an attorney
5:14present. Is that correct?
5:15>> No.
5:16>> Okay.
5:16>> Okay. Okay.
5:19>> So, you want to talk now? You don't want
5:20an attorney present. I I have to make
5:22sure sure about this. All right.
5:24>> I don't want the attorney present. I
5:27will talk.
5:29>> Okay. Cuz we always call the public
5:30defender's office, too. So, but
5:34so you you want to talk now. Is this
5:36correct that you're shaking your head?
5:38Yes. Is that a yes?
5:39>> Yes, sir.
5:40>> Okay. Yes, sir.
5:43Jasmine. Um,
5:45how'd you do in school?
5:52>> I did. Okay. When I was
5:55>> you were okay. What year did you
5:57graduate?
6:00>> No. I only made it to
6:0512 11th grade.
6:08>> Okay.
6:09>> I didn't go back cuz That's me first
6:12time.
6:13>> And where were you going?
6:17>> Um,
6:19she called Travis.
6:21>> Travis Academy.
6:22>> Yeah, Travis Academy.
6:24>> Okay. So, what kind of um classes did
6:28you take?
6:31Um,
6:33I did uh it was I don't know exactly
6:37what it was or but I know I was
6:40diagnosed with
6:50Okay. And can you explain to us what
6:54kind of that means?
6:57Um
6:59well, how it was explained to me is that
7:02it was um
7:07Okay. Did they ever say like maybe what
7:11level you're at when you were in when
7:14you were in high school?
7:17>> Uh yeah. Okay.
7:19>> I was on when I was in high school.
7:23I was on the level level.
7:27I think I was down for a while.
7:32>> Okay.
7:37And
7:39how are you with like reading and
7:41writing and stuff?
7:45>> Great. You're great.
7:47>> Okay. What What was maybe the stuff that
7:50was hard for you?
8:04Oh, what else?
8:16>> I'm not sure. This is it.
8:29Um, were you in classes that had a lot
8:33of kids or were you in classes that
8:36was
8:44and when the teachers taught stuff, did
8:48you understand it or was it difficult?
8:50understand
8:54>> um
8:56most of it. Yes. Sometimes it's it it
8:58was
9:02so when one was teaching something the
9:05other will will go around and help us
9:07with with anything we needed help with.
9:09>> Okay.
9:09>> With understanding it or anything.
9:11>> Okay. All right. And what kind of grades
9:14did you get?
9:17>> I was a good student.
9:19uh A's or B's.
9:20>> Okay.
9:22Just
9:25>> Okay, it's understandable.
9:27>> Um did you have to take any medication?
9:36Take any right now?
9:40Um, have you
9:42seen a any sort of uh doctor or medical
9:47professional or anything like that about
9:49anything?
9:51>> Okay. Um, are you supposed to
10:00are you currently injured or hurt?
10:07Okay. Do you uh need any medical
10:12attention or
10:14do you have to use the restroom at all?
10:19>> Go ahead.
10:22Oh, when's when's the last time you
10:24drank any alcohol?
10:36I don't normally drink. I don't used to.
10:41>> Okay. Have you drank in the last 24
10:43hours?
10:43>> No.
10:44>> Okay. How about any illegal drugs in the
10:48last 24 hours?
10:53Smoke any marijuana or anything else?
10:58[clears throat]
10:59>> I smoke some marijuana. Yeah.
11:01>> Okay. And the reason I asked is we just
11:04have to determine if you're under the
11:06influence of anything.
11:08>> No, you're not high or drunk. Okay.
11:13Do you understand what we're both
11:14saying?
11:15>> Yes.
11:16>> Do you understand what you're saying?
11:17>> Yes.
11:18>> No.
11:23Are there drugs besides marijuana?
11:26>> No.
11:28Um, you understand that you're at the
11:32Milwaukee Police Department building
11:33downtown,
11:36>> correct? Okay.
11:37>> Yes.
11:38>> Okay. You know, you're in custody.
11:41>> Yes.
11:42>> Okay. All right.
11:44Um, can you tell us what happened
11:46tonight?
12:15You are right. It happen so quick.
12:19It happen so fast.
12:22So so fast.
12:34Okay. Recently,
12:39I recently fought the fire
12:45and
12:50I was going to get rid of it, throw it
12:53away. I didn't know where it came from,
12:56where [snorts]
12:57nothing,
12:59you know, put myself in nothing or
13:02finding it.
13:07But before I even got the chance to get
13:10rid of
13:12the fire,
13:16I turned around.
13:20I only turned around
13:24minutes.
13:35I didn't know that
13:37he was I didn't know he was tall enough
13:40to reach you.
13:48I just noted him.
13:54I heard
14:05I
14:12didn't
14:31This way.
14:42No.
14:48Wait,
14:56wait, wait.
15:09You want me
15:14to s
15:29just be so stupid. Why did I leave the
15:32room with that? Why? Why?
16:00He thinking right now he
16:04he
16:05only three. He
16:09was
16:11I know he did. I know.
16:14I know he didn't. My baby. Oh, baby.
16:18Baby. Oh, baby. [laughter] I know he
16:21going to be
16:23this is about to traumatize myself.
16:29You're about to be so dramatized.
16:33You already did something.
16:53Where was the gun at?
17:05>> Sure. Start there.
17:09[snorts]
17:11at a park.
17:14>> What park?
17:18>> Um, [clears throat]
17:21a park was there. I'm not sure. I was
17:24late
17:26to the party.
17:28I had to pee. I went to the [ __ ]
17:32It was a big part. I don't know. I'm
17:34thinking
17:35[snorts]
17:36um
17:49[snorts]
17:53>> How long ago was this?
18:02A week.
18:04Okay.
18:06And what did the gun look like?
18:27>> I think it's gray and black.
18:30>> Gray.
18:30>> Yeah. Okay.
18:32>> Is it a revolver or is it a
18:34semi-automatic? Do you know the
18:36difference?
18:38A revolver is sort of like you got the
18:40cylinder that circle where it just sort
18:44of like this. So the bullets go here and
18:47a circle like that. It's not like that.
18:50So it's a semi-auto which is where it
18:54gets you you can pull the direction.
18:57It's like that.
18:59Okay.
19:03So after finding the gun in the park,
19:05you took it home.
19:07>> Okay.
19:08>> I took it home
19:11been there.
19:15I mean, honestly, I have to be honest. I
19:18don't know too much about guns.
19:20I really didn't know too much about it
19:24being
19:26one
19:27already [snorts]
19:28up in the chamber.
19:30>> Mhm.
19:31>> I didn't know nothing about that.
19:33>> Okay.
19:33>> But when I had it, it was no but nothing
19:36in it. It was just empty.
19:39>> Like I said, it was never touched or
19:41nothing. I just hid it and I was throw
19:43it cuz I didn't know where it came from
19:46or
19:47>> what it you know nothing. So,
19:52>> so did you ever look in the chamber?
19:55>> Never looked. Okay. Did it do you know
19:59what a clip is? Magazine. Okay. Did it
20:02have that in the gun?
20:04>> It It did, but it didn't have no bullets
20:07in it.
20:07>> Okay. and and the um the whole the case
20:11holder didn't even go in. We didn't have
20:13a brief
20:14>> so I didn't like I said I don't know too
20:17much about gun so I didn't think nothing
20:18of it to look.
20:20>> Okay. And where do you keep the gun at
20:23your house?
20:28>> I usually keep it
20:35I usually keep it under me. Not under
20:37me, under me. But like
20:42I used to keep it in the
20:45in the basement part in the top of the
20:49thing
20:51just so they won't get to it.
20:53>> Okay. And now where was it tonight?
21:03>> You have some pictures.
21:16Well, you said it.
21:36So, you want to be right there. So, on
21:39the couch right there,
21:41right?
21:42>> I said it. Yeah, I only set it right
21:44there.
21:44>> She said it right there.
21:46>> Okay. Or just circle.
21:48>> Yeah.
21:49>> Was there a cushion?
21:51>> Yeah.
21:52>> So, there was You said it on top the
21:54cushion.
21:55>> Okay. Okay. And now, how far back on
21:59this?
22:01>> Where
22:03the front? Okay. Right on the front.
22:06>> Okay.
22:11And uh when you when you put the gun
22:13there, where was your son at?
22:17Upstairs.
22:20>> Okay. And where was your daughter?
22:25I thought it was
22:28going
22:31>> She was over here.
22:33>> Yeah.
22:35standing right there.
22:39He
22:42I remember up the stairs
22:47so quick and fast like
22:50>> I turned around
23:00just
23:01try to clean or try to
23:04I forgot what I was trying to grab. I
23:06was trying to grab the phone or
23:08something
23:10like
23:16Okay. So how
23:31Ron you were saying
23:36like how tall
23:46how about compared to this table.
23:52Okay,
23:55about that. Okay, you move. You can go
23:57up and down stairs
24:02and
24:06walk
24:12or like teeter to furniture.
24:17Sometimes um sometimes
24:25meeting with getting on the couch or
24:29going upstairs and stuff
24:32or fall stumbled up her own feet.
24:39Yeah. I have to pay a little more show a
24:43little more attention. She needed help.
24:50So you you were about here and you're
24:52not sure exactly what you were doing,
24:54but you had left the gun there and then
24:56your son, what's your son's name?
25:03Huh?
25:10You're not sure came from, but
25:13grab this gun.
25:18Okay.
25:20>> He didn't know better. He probably
25:22thought he was a toy. He a baby. He
25:26didn't know.
25:29>> So, what did you see was doing?
25:35>> I didn't see do anything. I hurry and I
25:40think around
25:47scary
25:58crying, he got the screaming. He got the
26:01yelling. I want to see my baby.
26:06Oh.
26:09>> And what happened with the gun?
26:15>> I don't know.
26:18>> Well, after the shots fired, where did
26:20the gun go?
26:21>> I don't know. Sorry.
26:27Did the gun go up?
26:31I don't know. I don't I grabbed my I
26:34grabbed
26:38[clears throat]
26:38my I and got help.
26:40>> Who else was down here besides you,
26:42James? And
26:48>> nobody
26:52who was upstairs.
27:12family member.
27:13>> What family member?
27:17>> Sister, sister-in-law.
27:28[clears throat] I don't feel comfortable
27:28again without nobody.
27:31Okay, with that we can verify your
27:34story.
27:35>> He was not down
27:39was in the house. He was
27:42nobody really know.
27:46Nobody can verify. They just heard
27:48yelling and screaming and they seen
27:51me with blood.
28:04When when the gun was on on the couch
28:06here, do you know which way the barrel
28:10was pointing?
28:11>> No, sorry.
28:14Told you.
28:16I blinked. I thought it helps. Great. I
28:18blinked.
28:19>> But when you put the gun down,
28:22which way was the point?
28:34Okay.
28:38All right. So, you have been holding the
28:40gun, right?
28:43And when you're holding it, what are you
28:44doing with it?
28:46>> I don't hold the gun. They
28:51only supposed to have it. That's the
28:53point I'm making. Sure.
28:56But you have this gun and you put it on
28:58the couch. Okay. So, prior before doing
29:01that, what are you doing with this gun?
29:07[snorts]
29:09Protection.
29:12I thought it was protection even though
29:15I didn't have no bullets or nothing.
29:18Like I said, but I was going to get rid
29:21of it anyways cuz I found it. So, I
29:23don't know nothing about this gun. I
29:26wouldn't know nothing about it. So, I
29:28wasn't going to put myself in that mix.
29:31>> Sure.
29:31>> At all.
29:32>> My question is,
29:34you put the gun down on the couch,
29:36right?
29:37>> Mhm.
29:38>> Okay. So, you were holding on to the
29:40gun.
29:44What were you doing with the gun?
29:46>> I was about to get ready to take it away
29:50cuz it wasn't supposed to be there. It
29:51was something that was fine. Where was
29:53the gun before you put it on the couch?
29:58>> On my other side. I hid it
30:01>> from my babies.
30:02>> Okay. Other side of what?
30:10>> The side of the couch.
30:12>> Okay. Can you point to where the gun
30:15was?
30:20>> Okay. So, are you staying down uh behind
30:24the couch?
30:26>> Yeah, that's where I feel safer hiding
30:28in it when I had it.
30:30>> Okay. And what was the gun in when it
30:33was on on this behind the couch?
30:40>> I have it in it.
30:44>> Okay. So, you just had the gun?
30:48>> I put it in a bag. It wasn't like
30:50wrapped up exactly in the bag. It was
30:52just in the bag and
30:54>> under clothes and stuff so that my kids
30:57want to get to it.
30:58>> Okay. And what did the bag look like?
31:14>> Not sure.
31:19We'll take a second to think about it.
31:20Okay.
31:40>> I didn't know.
31:44>> Okay.
31:46Now, Jake and I weren't in your
31:47basement. So, was this bag like a
31:52purse or a backpack or a suitcase? What
31:55kind of bag?
31:56>> It was a regular plastic bag.
31:58>> A gray plastic bag.
32:00>> Yeah.
32:01>> Okay.
32:03Um, how long have you lived here?
32:22A week
32:24a week.
32:26>> Okay.
32:27Front of the house.
32:32Okay. Do you know your address?
32:35No.
32:36>> You don't you don't know the numbers?
32:42How about like what street what streets
32:45are it near? [clears throat]
32:50>> Railro.
32:51>> Okay. And like what what would be the
32:53number?
32:58[clears throat]
33:00>> I think it's 100
33:03six. [snorts]
33:04>> Okay.
33:05>> Six.
33:06>> Okay. So, you live in the basement. And
33:08where do you sleep?
33:11>> Couch.
33:12>> Okay. And where does your son sleep?
33:17>> Couch.
33:17>> Okay. And
33:20see,
33:21>> so all three of you sleep on the couch.
33:23>> Okay. Is there a normal spot for you?
33:27The spot you usually pick to fall asleep
33:32over here.
33:34>> Okay. And how
33:39They usually always right here like
33:45they usually always right here.
33:48>> Okay.
33:48>> So the pillow will be up there. I
33:53bought them
33:56right there.
33:57>> Okay.
33:59Oh, do the children have toys?
34:03>> Yeah.
34:04>> Where are they?
34:08upstairs.
34:09>> Okay.
34:13Does anyone else live in the basement
34:15with you three?
34:21>> Mhm.
34:24>> Is anyone allowed uh to come down here
34:27and hang out?
34:32>> No.
34:32>> Mhm.
34:33>> Okay. Who lives upstairs?
34:40Okay. Anybody else?
34:48Um
35:04So, all the stuff that's in this
35:06basement. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean
35:08to interrupt. Okay. All the stuff that's
35:10in the basement. Is that your
35:13belongings?
35:15Okay.
35:17Does anyone else have any belongings
35:20down in the basement?
35:23>> No. Okay.
35:24>> No.
35:25>> Does own these this couch or or did you
35:28buy it?
35:31Okay. And so it
35:34um the word furnish, you know, would be
35:37furniture and TV and stuff. Was that
35:39stuff here when you moved in?
35:42>> Okay. But then you brought what
35:45[clears throat] what is yours that you
35:47brought here?
35:49[snorts]
35:53>> Like is this a refrigerator?
35:54>> Yeah.
35:55>> Is that yours?
35:56>> Yeah. Okay. Is this your fan?
35:59>> Yeah.
36:02Okay. How about the vacuum?
36:07>> That's hers.
36:08Okay. Um there's there was stuff along
36:12the side here and then like kind of
36:15behind the couch in the corner. Is that
36:17stuff yours?
36:18>> Mhm.
36:19>> Okay. Those bags and belongings are
36:21yours? Mhm.
36:22>> Okay.
36:26Um, so everyone
36:30and
36:34they stay upstairs. Is there any other
36:36kids or anybody that lives in the house?
36:40>> They wasn't there at that moment.
36:42>> But they was outside. All the kids.
36:43That's like I said, all the kids are
36:44outside. All the kids. So that's why I
36:48don't seem to understand like [snorts]
36:55>> you work.
36:56>> No.
36:57>> All right. Um
37:02where how do you end up feeding your
37:04children?
37:09>> She
37:11was about some stuff. She just bought
37:14pizzas and hot dogs and chips last night
37:17and juices and stuff.
37:19>> Okay. So, like uh what's your regular
37:22routine? What do you and your children
37:24do every day?
37:26>> Sit down and sit down and watch TV.
37:29>> Okay. Now, I have some young children
37:32and they're very rambunctious. So, do
37:35you ever have problems like me where
37:37they're always running around jumping
37:39and stuff like that?
37:40>> Yeah, of course. How about this? Are
37:43your children like mine where they love
37:45to like jump on the couch and stuff?
37:47>> Yes.
37:48>> Okay. They like to fly around and act
37:51out stuff they see on TV.
37:53>> Yes.
37:54>> Maybe do some wrestling and stuff.
37:56>> Yeah.
37:56>> Now, this is what I hate. I hate when
37:59they like go up on top of the cushions
38:02>> cuz they wreck it and they wreck the
38:04back. Do your kids ever go up on top?
38:07>> They do. So that So they're very active.
38:09They can climb all over the place.
38:11>> [clears throat]
38:12>> All right. Um,
38:15the very common game called hide and
38:17seek. Do they ever do that? Ever hide
38:20anywhere?
38:24>> No.
38:26>> Uh, yeah. I have it a lot when I
38:33>> Yeah.
38:35But he gave
38:40the bathroom and I try to get in my room
38:44lock the door.
38:46>> Okay. So like
38:49to get into some things and hide and run
38:53around and
38:54>> Oh, do they do they ever play pillow
38:57fights?
38:59>> Yeah. So do my kids. They love smacking
39:02each other, you know, doing whatever
39:04just to kind of drive me nuts.
39:06>> Yeah.
39:07>> So, um, like what is he able to like
39:11pick some of this stuff up? These
39:12cushions kind of strong.
39:15>> Yeah.
39:16>> He is. Okay.
39:18>> All right. Does he ever hit you with the
39:21pillow?
39:24>> Yeah.
39:24>> Yeah. Okay. My kids like to take the
39:28cushions and make forts and stuff out of
39:30them.
39:31>> Yeah,
39:32>> he does, too. Okay.
39:35>> All right. So, he really gets into some
39:36stuff, huh?
39:42>> How can I
39:47wonder? I know. I wonder like I wonder
39:50like
39:52>> like this could just be right there.
39:56Oh, you know.
39:57>> Yep. Always checking on stuff, right?
39:59>> She want to see like what what can I do
40:02with this, you know, trying stuff like
40:04stuff like that.
40:05>> Yep.
40:07And and you as mom, what what do you do
40:11to,
40:13you know, either promote that or or get
40:15them to to stop getting into your stuff?
40:17What do you What
40:23>> Okay. Did he listen or is he like my
40:25kids?
40:26>> No. Don't listen.
40:28>> Don't listen. Right.
40:31It's like It's like sometimes you're
40:33talking to a brick wall,
40:35>> right?
40:37>> Okay. So, how many kids do you just
40:39have? Two.
40:43>> They got more.
40:54Um, I have four kids.
40:58>> Four.
41:00>> What What's the oldest? The age.
41:05>> Okay. And name.
41:13All right. Um, and then the next oldest
41:21Okay.
41:22And then next oldest.
41:29>> Okay.
41:32And how about after that?
41:43My baby boy here.
41:50Okay.
41:55>> And he passed away.
41:58Was he sick?
42:02That happened in Milwaukee.
42:11Okay.
42:14And then was that all five or was there
42:17another one?
42:28Uhoh.
42:50Okay.
42:56So, okay.
43:06>> Have you went to see your doctor yet?
43:08>> Just a second. Why not?
43:13>> Obviously, you're talking to who you
43:15are.
43:16>> Okay. But having
43:20four other children, right? You
43:22>> I know
43:23>> you know. Okay. That's mother's
43:25intuition, right?
43:26>> Yeah.
43:27>> Gosh.
43:46I know. I know. But
43:51>> this time Okay. So after
43:55uh was shot, do you know which way the
43:58bullet went like when the when the gun
44:00was fired? Do you hear anything else?
44:03>> No. I just No, I didn't. I mean,
44:08I didn't know exactly where that
44:12stay. I did. I didn't. I just know. Like
44:15I said, I
44:19walked up the stairs screaming and
44:21crying and yelling and
44:24blood.
44:28>> Okay. And where was that?
44:36>> Still still in the basement. Okay. And
44:39where was the gun?
44:49>> Well, you didn't check.
44:55You know [clears throat] what I'm
44:56saying? King say
44:59>> what what we got the gun and and shot
45:10couldn't have cuz
45:13by time I already
45:16was up the stairs with
45:21down and went down there. So I know and
45:25get to back to it.
45:28>> Okay.
45:32>> Not sure.
45:36>> Who's this?
45:42>> Don't look at me.
45:53>> You think where was he? What was he
45:55wearing?
45:58>> He already had some shorts on.
46:04He was in a bed coming out of his bed
46:07and he like, "What happened? What
46:08happened?" And I'm just yelling and
46:11screaming
46:13and he just came back to my
46:19>> no way to tell.
46:22Couldn't talk. just yelling. I just was
46:24screaming. I just was, "Somebody help
46:26me. Somebody get an ambulance. Somebody
46:28call the police. Somebody do something.
46:30Somebody help me save." I didn't like I
46:33didn't think about none of that. I just
46:35to be okay. That's all.
46:40>> And know what happened after that?
46:43And I saw it
46:46on the ground
46:51waiting There we wait.
47:14So when you have this gun, how do you
47:15hold the gun
47:18when you're possessing it?
47:28handle by the handle.
47:31And where's your finger at
47:44no?
47:48That's not what we asked.
47:50>> Yeah, it did. He just said, "What was
47:52your finger at?" He asked, "When how was
47:54I holding it?" And I said, "With the
47:56handle like this." So he asked, "Where
47:58was my finger at?" My finger was in the
47:59handle. Every time I held the gun, it
48:01was in the handle. So
48:03>> like in the handle, you mean like on the
48:05trigger or
48:06>> No, the handle part where the trigger is
48:08at. The handle like upside down.
48:13>> Let me get a gun for a fake gun for you.
49:14So you hold the gun like that
49:19>> and you hold it like that to do what?
49:23I held the gun like like
49:27I barely even had like held the gun. I
49:29only held it once and that's when I
49:31first found it. When I first found it, I
49:34grabbed it from right here.
49:35>> Okay. And you carried it home like that?
49:41>> I didn't carry it home like that.
49:43>> Okay. How'd you carry it home?
49:50>> Carried it home. Put it in.
49:55>> Wrapped it up with my jacket.
49:59>> Okay. So, find at the park, wrap it up
50:02in your jacket like like your jacket's
50:05off or you have a jacket on and you put
50:07it in your jacket.
50:09>> Jackie's off. Yeah, please.
50:12>> Okay. You carry it home and when you get
50:15it home that night, where do you put
50:18this gun?
50:23Or I told you I put it in behind the
50:24couch. I he
50:26>> Okay.
50:28And how many times have you pulled it
50:30out of your jacket since you brought it
50:32home?
50:35>> None.
50:35>> Today was amazing.
50:37>> Okay. And then today, so what kind of
50:39jacket was it?
50:43>> Was it a lump jacket? Black jacket.
50:46>> Black Low jacket.
50:50Say love on it. It's a black jacket.
50:52>> Oh, gotcha. Okay. I thought it was a
50:54style. I'm closing up on women's
50:57fashion.
50:58>> Yeah.
50:59>> All right. So, you just decide tonight
51:02is the night you're going to you're
51:04going to get rid of it.
51:06>> I was rid of it yesterday.
51:09>> Okay.
51:10>> Where were you going to get rid of it
51:11at?
51:13You actually honestly
51:20I'll take it back where I got it from.
51:22>> Just throw it in the park.
51:25>> Back [clears throat] where I was at.
51:30I wasn't feeling right. I wasn't my
51:32place to even grab it or touch it or
51:34take it from where it was at.
51:36>> Okay. So tonight you pull it out of the
51:39love jacket and then you you put it on
51:42the couch.
51:50>> Yep. As I was about to get like I said
51:53we should get ready to go.
51:56So demonstrate with that blue gun how
51:58you pull that out of your love jacket.
52:08Okay. So, you grabbed it sort of by the
52:10barrel.
52:12Then you just put it on the cushion.
52:16Okay. Now that we've had a little time,
52:19which way was the the barrel pointing
52:21when you put it on the cushion?
52:38Okay. So,
52:40meaning which way is it point when it's
52:43on that on that couch?
52:47Okay. It's pointing towards the corner.
52:50>> Mhm.
52:52>> Okay.
52:56Oh, is this about the size of the gun
52:58that you have?
53:05Yes. Okay.
53:07>> All right. Is this your shape?
53:12>> Okay. Is there What's different about
53:14the gun that you have that's different
53:16from this other than the color?
53:31They don't got the things at the top.
53:33>> This.
53:35>> Okay. How about hold it again. How about
53:37the weight?
53:49>> Similar in weight. Okay. All right.
53:54And like when when you hold it, go ahead
53:55and hold it.
53:58Are you right-handed or left-handed?
54:00>> [snorts]
54:02>> right hand. Okay. So, hold it with your
54:03right hand.
54:06>> All right. When you hold it, is that
54:08like how it feels in your hand?
54:23Huh?
54:25No.
54:27What's different?
54:36That's not
54:38This is different. The the like slots
54:41here. Okay. So, how how is your gun?
54:54It's um not sugar. It's similar to these
54:57though.
54:58>> Okay.
54:59>> Just know it just don't cut this.
55:02Don't cut this.
55:06>> Okay.
55:09>> So, grab it again with with your hand.
55:13Okay. All right. So, when when you're
55:16holding your gun, is your fingers kind
55:19of similar? like you know your hand is
55:23it look the same when you're holding
55:24your gun.
55:30Yeah.
55:32[clears throat]
55:35No. What? What's different?
55:52I'm not sure.
56:00I can't even imagine how to look. Like I
56:04said, I didn't even have it for so long.
56:08Don't take it back, guys.
56:28I was going to grab it.
56:38And in your you think is about this
56:41tall.
56:46>> How you?
56:48>> Well,
56:5424 lb.
56:55>> 24 lbs.
56:57>> Maybe like 30 at the most. How how much
57:02we when he was born
57:08in
57:12>> it was these pound.
57:14>> Okay.
57:25Have you ever shot a gun before?
57:32No,
57:37never shot a gun.
57:55Do you do you think the story that
57:57you're telling us is even possible?
58:02>> Yes,
58:03>> you do.
58:05>> Yes, it is possible.
58:07>> Okay.
58:10Is it the truth? Yes.
58:15Did you accidentally
58:20>> Can you say it again?
58:21>> Did you accidentally
58:25>> The reason why I'm asking this is
58:27because
58:30how
58:32you said he weighs somewhere between 24
58:34and 30 lbs.
58:36If you ever shot a gun, it's pretty
58:38difficult to pull the trigger
58:43>> with that. If you know,
58:49>> what does that mean?
58:56>> We'll pick up anything.
59:05the vacuum cleaner and it's way too hard
59:08to
59:10>> Yeah.
59:12>> And do what?
59:13>> Bring it to you. Bring it to anybody.
59:15Like if you say like, "Oh,
59:19bring me that." or you need telling
59:21somebody else to get something like you
59:22tell I'll be telling one of the other
59:24kids to grab the
59:28the um
59:30vacuum clean like oh got it pick it up
59:33and bring it up over there
59:36like we go grocery shopping when we go
59:39get stuff he wants to hold the bleach he
59:42wants to hold the the big pine sock like
59:46he wants to do things he wants to do
59:49older
59:51Okay. So, I just want to be clear that,
59:56you know,
59:58the one that shot your daughter.
1:00:08>> What's that?
1:00:12>> Yes.
1:00:14>> That That'll be That'll be a lot to
1:00:17have.
1:00:20Why do I keep saying
1:00:31he didn't know? I know he's coming for
1:00:34my son forever.
1:00:37I'm trying to I know.
1:00:44>> And whose fault is this?
1:00:56I know I wouldn't be able to tell him
1:01:00what at this time.
1:01:05>> Well, Jasmine, this is your fault.
1:01:11>> You are responsible for death.
1:01:24So before J and I leave here, we want to
1:01:27make sure that we're clear, okay,
1:01:31on whether this is
1:01:35pulling that trigger
1:01:37or someone else.
1:01:46because th this kind of stuff will wear
1:01:48on someone and it's going to take a
1:01:51psychological toll
1:01:53on both of you.
1:01:58But if it wasn't really
1:02:01it's not fair for you to put it
1:02:09right.
1:02:11But I wouldn't be sitting here saying
1:02:13that anything. I never been in this type
1:02:15of situation. Never did anything like
1:02:17this. So, no, it was not expected or
1:02:20like it was an accident. It was not
1:02:22expected.
1:02:23>> Okay.
1:02:24>> It wasn't intentionally or like No, none
1:02:27of that.
1:02:27>> Okay. Well, I wouldn't intentionally
1:02:30shoot,
1:02:30>> right? So, it was an accident,
1:02:33>> right? Well, what I'm saying is, did
1:02:36this or did someone else?
1:02:40Nobody else was down there
1:02:44but me and my two kids.
1:03:00>> So because this is an accident, what
1:03:03happened to the gun?
1:03:06>> And I just told you something. I don't
1:03:09know. Okay.
1:03:10>> I grabbed my daughter and I ran up the
1:03:13stairs and was screaming and yelling and
1:03:15I ran and got help.
1:03:16>> Okay. All right. And then you went
1:03:19outside, right?
1:03:20>> Yes.
1:03:20>> Okay. And your brother-in-law came down.
1:03:23All right. So, now is the time to tell
1:03:26us who your brother-in-law is.
1:03:30>> I don't know my brother-in-law name.
1:03:32>> That is bull.
1:03:34>> Mhm.
1:03:34>> [ __ ] You don't know your
1:03:35brother-in-law's name?
1:03:37>> No, I don't know like that. No. Oh, come
1:03:39on.
1:03:40>> Are you kidding me?
1:03:44>> Your daughter's dead and you're refusing
1:03:47to give information that can help us
1:03:51figure out what happened to the gun.
1:03:53>> I don't know. I told y'all everything I
1:03:55know happened.
1:03:57>> No,
1:03:59you're refusing to give us your
1:04:00brother-in-law's name.
1:04:01>> I don't know his name. They never called
1:04:03him around me.
1:04:06>> So, what do you call him?
1:04:09Don't call them. I don't say nothing to
1:04:10them.
1:04:11>> Okay. How about How about the lady,
1:04:14whatever you're calling her, sister or
1:04:16sister-in-law? What's her name?
1:04:17>> Sis.
1:04:18>> Sis. That's it.
1:04:19>> Mhm.
1:04:20>> She's a blood relative to you.
1:04:23>> Mhm.
1:04:23>> And you're refusing to give her name?
1:04:30>> I don't know her name.
1:04:33[laughter]
1:04:37Your daughter's blood is on you,
1:04:41Jasmine.
1:04:43You're going to have to live with that
1:04:44for the rest of your life.
1:04:49>> I was definitely
1:04:51>> You killed your daughter.
1:04:54I definitely didn't
1:04:59that I'm not going to let y'all say
1:05:01>> you are you are a terrible mother right
1:05:03now because you're refusing to give the
1:05:06names of the people that lived upstairs
1:05:10that we need to interview and figure out
1:05:12what happened to this gun.
1:05:16Am I clear? What happens if another kid
1:05:19gets hold of this gun?
1:05:24Think about that.
1:05:34Too many kids are dying.
1:05:39What happens if another kid gets a hold
1:05:41of this gun and accidentally shoots
1:05:43someone or kills himself?
1:05:47Me and Dan were just at one about this
1:05:50last February.
1:05:54where a kid got a hold of a gun and shot
1:05:56himself.
1:06:02So, it's important that we know where
1:06:04this gun went and it's important that we
1:06:05know the people that went downstairs and
1:06:07the people that lived in the house cuz
1:06:09we need to find this gun.
1:06:14That's important.
1:06:27So, what's your brother-in-law's name?
1:06:33>> I don't know his name.
1:06:35>> What's your sister-in-law's name?
1:06:39>> I don't know her name.
1:06:40>> What happened to all them tears?
1:06:45>> Oh,
1:06:46what tears? You were You were sure
1:06:48crying before,
1:06:50>> of course.
1:06:50>> But now now when we need some help, you
1:06:55got nothing.
1:06:56>> I'm helping y'all. I'm telling you.
1:06:58>> You ain't helping nothing.
1:06:59>> Yeah, I am. I'm telling y'all.
1:07:06>> What more do you want? If I don't know.
1:07:08I'm telling you all I know.
1:07:09>> We'd like to know where the gun went.
1:07:12Okay.
1:07:12>> And I don't know. I grabbed my daughter
1:07:14after it happened. I don't know. I don't
1:07:16know. I know. Okay. So, you live with in
1:07:20the basement
1:07:22of a house with two people who you call
1:07:24sis or sister-in-law and a
1:07:26brother-in-law, but are refusing to give
1:07:28their names.
1:07:31And obviously, there's some c there's
1:07:33some cowards that they ran off and they
1:07:35don't want to stick around.
1:07:39>> I don't know them people's name.
1:07:40>> Okay.
1:07:41>> I don't know.
1:07:42>> Well, Jasmine, we're trying to find this
1:07:43gun. We don't want another incident to
1:07:45happen. We don't want another little kid
1:07:46getting shot and killed. We don't want
1:07:48another kid picking up a gun and shoot
1:07:50shooting themselves. You're
1:07:51>> right. I wouldn't either. I wouldn't
1:07:53expect this or I wouldn't wish this on
1:07:55nobody.
1:07:58>> So when you tell us that, oh, I just
1:08:01called him six or brother-in-law. Yeah,
1:08:02we that that's a bunch of bull crap.
1:08:06No,
1:08:07>> I just don't know the world you live in
1:08:09now. So if you say so.
1:08:19don't even give out names. Give out
1:08:22fake. They give out other. They don't
1:08:24give you everybody they names. Like I
1:08:26said,
1:08:39can't be mad at me if I don't know their
1:08:41names.
1:08:44No one.
1:08:56Stay tight for a second.
1:09:28No real mother would ever have a go down
1:09:31like this.
1:09:37You might have given birth to these
1:09:38children, but you're not a mother.
1:09:44>> Do you understand that?
1:09:52>> I've been a mother for a long time.
1:09:54>> You are no mother. Tell me that
1:09:56>> you are no mother.
1:10:00>> You might get pregnant and give birth,
1:10:02but you are not a mother.
1:10:04You do not care about these children.
1:10:08>> I don't care about my children.
1:10:10>> You do not.
1:10:10>> Cuz I don't want to tell you somebody
1:10:12name I don't know.
1:10:13>> Absolutely.
1:10:14>> Cuz I don't know their name.
1:10:15>> You live with them. Jasmine,
1:10:16>> that don't mean nothing.
1:10:18>> That's huge. If I'm living with
1:10:20somebody, I'm going to know their name.
1:10:21>> Oh no. If you live with somebody and
1:10:23somebody don't want to give up their
1:10:24name, they don't have to give up their
1:10:25name. I'm s I'm bro. [ __ ] You don't
1:10:28have to. Just like if you wanted
1:10:29somebody, you don't have to give up your
1:10:30name. People didn't give me their name.
1:10:33They just s bro. Okay, I respect that. I
1:10:37can't knock nobody for how they feel and
1:10:38what they do.
1:10:42>> But for you to tell me I ain't a mother.
1:10:44>> You ain't a mother,
1:10:45>> right?
1:10:49>> You are a horrible person, Jasmine.
1:11:01I'm a horrible person cuz I don't know
1:11:03these people name.
1:11:05>> Absolutely. Because you can't even look
1:11:07at me.
1:11:11>> I actually can look at you. I just
1:11:13choose not to look at you.
1:11:20>> I cannot believe
1:11:23what you're doing right now.
1:11:26Do you remember when you were given
1:11:27birth? Do you remember how happy that
1:11:31was?
1:11:33>> Yes, sir.
1:11:36>> Probably one of the happiest days of
1:11:38your life, right?
1:11:39>> Yes, sir. [clears throat]
1:11:41>> Child birth is special for a mother.
1:11:44Okay.
1:11:45>> Yes, sir.
1:11:49>> Your mother is daddy.
1:11:54dead. You're never going to
1:11:57never come back.
1:12:01Every birthday, you're going to have to
1:12:02think about
1:12:06leaking blood out your body
1:12:10all over the floor because of something
1:12:12you did.
1:12:16And when asked some simple questions
1:12:18about the people you lived with, you
1:12:21refused to help your
1:12:25>> No, I had the opportunity to help. I
1:12:28just don't know the name of these
1:12:30people.
1:12:30>> So you just happen to move all your in
1:12:33this basement with your two young
1:12:35children and you don't know who these
1:12:38people are.
1:12:41Do you think Jake and I believe that?
1:12:44You should type of world you live in.
1:12:47Your family don't give a about you. So
1:12:49what you expect?
1:12:50>> We're not dumb. [clears throat]
1:12:52>> You're not dumb. Not saying you was, but
1:12:54at the end of the day, when you ain't
1:12:55got nowhere else and a person is willing
1:12:56to take you and your baby in and like
1:12:59it's a home, you ain't got no choice.
1:13:06Whoever sister bro is, guess what? They
1:13:07leave me and them kids out on the
1:13:09street.
1:13:20That's the last time you're going to
1:13:21have any kids.
1:13:27Think about that.
1:13:30The one night you lost them all.
1:13:50J,
1:13:54how come you didn't ride with with your
1:13:56daughter in the aminess?
1:14:00>> I was told it wasn't enough room. I beat
1:14:02up all the mans and made sure that they
1:14:05they did not let me get in the car with
1:14:07my daughter.
1:14:09I beat up what you want to call it. They
1:14:12sorry just whoever they did. I filed on
1:14:14a bunch of them trying to get in the car
1:14:16with my child. They did not let me in.
1:14:18So I got dropped off to her quick ASAP.
1:14:21No problem.
1:14:24>> Who dropped you off?
1:14:27>> A friend.
1:14:29>> So lady I don't know. I don't know the
1:14:30lady. Please, don't ask. I don't. I was
1:14:32out. I went outside. It was a party
1:14:34going on. It was a bunch of people out
1:14:36there and she helped me. That was it.
1:14:38>> What was she helping? Was she doing CPR
1:14:40or what?
1:14:41>> Yeah, she tried to help her do CPR while
1:14:44the baby while the baby was laying
1:14:45there.
1:14:47>> What did you What did you tell her?
1:14:51>> You told her the same thing?
1:14:52>> No, you didn't.
1:14:53>> Same thing as what?
1:14:56>> Same thing I'm sitting here telling
1:14:58y'all. And matter of fact, to be honest,
1:14:59I didn't tell her anything. I was
1:15:01screaming and yelling. They kept asking.
1:15:03All of them kept asking, "What happened?
1:15:05What happened? What happened?" I wasn't
1:15:07saying anything. I was just too in that
1:15:09point right then and there was so much
1:15:10blood on me. I was ready for them to
1:15:13come and help my child. That's it.
1:15:14That's all.
1:15:16>> The child that you killed.
1:15:19>> I didn't kill my child. I mean,
1:15:23I did not kill. And I will not sit here
1:15:26and make sure I say I killed Her death
1:15:29was an accident. Period.
1:16:04You owe it to her
1:16:07to tell us the truth.
1:16:15>> You are not.
1:16:16>> I am. I'm telling God everything. You
1:16:18were looking at your dead. You were
1:16:21lying to us.
1:16:24>> I'm not lying.
1:16:25>> You're refusing to help.
1:16:28>> I'm not lying.
1:16:30>> You are lying, Jasmine.
1:16:33[snorts]
1:16:42I'm not laugh. And if I got to go to
1:16:44court, I fight. I'm a lawyer. I was a
1:16:47lawyer. I didn't hurt my child.
1:16:49[snorts]
1:16:50I'm telling y'all everything I know.
1:16:52You're not going to pressure me. No. No.
1:16:56No.
1:17:00Mm-
1:17:02state of mind. I mean, no. Not going to
1:17:04try to pressure me. I told you
1:17:06everything. No, I didn't kill my It was
1:17:09an accident.
1:17:11None of this supposed to happen. It was
1:17:14an accident.
1:17:16And for you to sit up here in my face
1:17:17and give me this picture and tell me
1:17:19that I'm less of a mother.
1:17:24How dare you? If you don't know what
1:17:27I've been through today,
1:17:30how dare you? If you haven't seen what I
1:17:32see today,
1:17:35then you bring me a picture of [snorts]
1:17:38try to pressure me more like something's
1:17:41going to change. It's going to be
1:17:42different. No, nothing's going to
1:17:45change. Nothing's going to be different.
1:17:47I told you everything you needed to know
1:17:50about what happened with my child.
1:17:54I don't know what else or what more you
1:17:56all want me to do.
1:17:57>> Just tell the truth. But you you want a
1:18:00lawyer? Is that what you're saying?
1:18:01>> Yeah, it's cuz I'm telling y'all the
1:18:02truth. And y'all are telling me I
1:18:04didn't. I'm not. And I murdered my
1:18:05child. I did it. It was an accident.
1:18:10Time to go upstairs. Jasmine,
1:18:14stand up.
1:18:28>> Follow
1:18:39Following the interrogation, prosecutors
1:18:42charged Jasmine Daniels with firstdegree
1:18:44reckless homicide in connection with the
1:18:46shooting death of her 2-year-old
1:18:47daughter. The case was later resolved
1:18:50through a guilty [music] plea to an
1:18:51amended charge of neglecting a child
1:18:53where the consequence is death. In
1:18:56September 2021, the court sentenced
1:18:59Daniels [music] to 16 years, structured
1:19:02as 8 years of initial confinement
1:19:04followed by 8 years of extended
1:19:06supervision. That conviction [music] was
1:19:08later overturned on March 31st, 2026.
1:19:13The appellet court reversed the
1:19:14judgment, ruling that Daniel's custodial
1:19:17statements [music] should have been
1:19:18suppressed after finding her waiver of
1:19:20counsel was not knowing, intelligent,
1:19:22and voluntary. The case was sent [music]
1:19:25back to the lower court with
1:19:26instructions to suppress her statements.
1:19:29Following that ruling, Daniels was given
1:19:30the opportunity to seek withdrawal of
1:19:32her guilty plea. Public records do not
1:19:35clearly show a final outcome after that
1:19:37decision, [music]
1:19:38leaving the case unresolved following
1:19:40the reversal. If you found this video
1:19:42informative, please consider leaving a
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1:19:46it really helps support our work and
1:19:48allows us to continue covering important
1:19:50stories like this one. Thank you.

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