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Mixing Snare Drums Like A Pro | With Brian Deck — Transcript

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  1. 0:00[Music]
  2. 0:03hi
  3. 0:04my name is brian deck and i'm here at
  4. 0:06chicago's narwhal
  5. 0:07recording studios today to talk to you
  6. 0:10about
  7. 0:11different ways of processing snare drum
  8. 0:13with plugins
  9. 0:19this first example is a song called how
  10. 0:22many times from
  11. 0:23the last alejandro escovedo record that
  12. 0:25i worked on about three years ago
  13. 0:28the situation at the time when we
  14. 0:30recorded it
  15. 0:32was uh we were working at a rural studio
  16. 0:35in the middle of italy and we had very
  17. 0:38limited resources
  18. 0:40uh the eq on the console was very
  19. 0:42scratchy and we couldn't really use it
  20. 0:44and so we got a very
  21. 0:45dry kind of flat recording of the snare
  22. 0:48drum
  23. 0:48here's how it sounds when it's all mixed
  24. 0:58[Music]
  25. 1:01here's how it sounds with just the snare
  26. 1:03drum soloed up
  27. 1:04and i'm going to turn off the plugins
  28. 1:06that i had on it
  29. 1:14and turn off the drum buss plug-ins
  30. 1:17[Music]
  31. 1:20very flat and unexciting so the first
  32. 1:23thing that i did
  33. 1:24busting the top and bottom snares
  34. 1:25together was
  35. 1:27bring a little brightness scoop a little
  36. 1:29mid-range and bring
  37. 1:31a fair amount of bottom end into it i
  38. 1:33used the neve 1073 uad plug-in to do
  39. 1:38that
  40. 1:40that sounds a lot brighter and a lot
  41. 1:43beefier
  42. 1:44[Music]
  43. 1:46another trick that i do quite often is
  44. 1:48add a little distortion to that
  45. 1:50and i used the once again the uad
  46. 1:54thermionic culture vulture distortion
  47. 1:57plug-in
  48. 1:59i have the mix dialed back to about 60
  49. 2:01percent and a fair amount of drive
  50. 2:03on it
  51. 2:07that punches it up considerably
  52. 2:09[Music]
  53. 2:12again we're listening to just the snare
  54. 2:14mics right now
  55. 2:16[Music]
  56. 2:18and i'm going to turn the bus processing
  57. 2:21on the drum
  58. 2:22all the drum mics together are going
  59. 2:24through a bus
  60. 2:26that i'm compressing with the the
  61. 2:291176 plug in and
  62. 2:32brightening with the pultec eqp1a
  63. 2:36uad plug-in
  64. 2:39[Music]
  65. 2:45and here's the full drum kit
  66. 2:52[Music]
  67. 3:00i try not try
  68. 3:05another aspect of this recording was
  69. 3:06that everyone played live in the same
  70. 3:08room you can hear that when i
  71. 3:10solo up the drum mics
  72. 3:13you can hear that keyboard playing
  73. 3:15because it's bleeding
  74. 3:17everything's bleeding the base is
  75. 3:19bleeding less
  76. 3:20because it was downstairs in an old barn
  77. 3:23[Music]
  78. 3:26but what that meant was we couldn't have
  79. 3:28any ambient mics out
  80. 3:29for the drums to add a sense of space to
  81. 3:32what was going on
  82. 3:33they were all close mics so
  83. 3:36going back to listening to just the
  84. 3:39snare mics
  85. 3:40i added a little bit of this ocean way
  86. 3:44studios room simulator plug-in
  87. 3:47which is modeled on bill putnam's
  88. 3:49original ocean way studios
  89. 3:51it's a very very realistic room sound
  90. 3:54that you get on the snare drum here it
  91. 3:55is without
  92. 4:00and it's just subtly mixed in but it
  93. 4:02gives a sense of space
  94. 4:03and it gives even more bottom end
  95. 4:16[Music]
  96. 4:18i try not try
  97. 4:22and that's how i think we ended up with
  98. 4:23a fairly exciting drum sound
  99. 4:25on what i have to admit was not my best
  100. 4:28recording of drums ever okay the second
  101. 4:32example i have for snare processing with
  102. 4:34plugins
  103. 4:35is a song called funny from chicago rap
  104. 4:39group
  105. 4:39big branch we recorded this
  106. 4:43uh entirely in my basement and
  107. 4:46the chorus has live drums on it the
  108. 4:49verses in most of the rest of the song
  109. 4:51have electronic drums mostly 808s and so
  110. 4:55i needed an acoustic kit that sounded
  111. 4:57competitive with
  112. 4:58the power of the 808s and the bigness of
  113. 5:01the 808s
  114. 5:03but we had less than ideal circumstances
  115. 5:06being in my basement with just two
  116. 5:07microphones
  117. 5:08so here's what those drums sound like
  118. 5:12coming in on the chorus
  119. 5:25pretty powerful pretty cool they didn't
  120. 5:28start out that way
  121. 5:30so here's the snare drum soloed up with
  122. 5:34all the plugins bypassed
  123. 5:43that's an uh shure sm57
  124. 5:46placed between the hi-hat and the snare
  125. 5:48drum to try to pick up both of them
  126. 5:51and it just sounds like someone's
  127. 5:53tapping lightly it doesn't sound
  128. 5:55powerful so the first thing i did
  129. 5:57was grab the ssl e-channel uad plug-in
  130. 6:02and i did a mid-range scoop with that
  131. 6:12next thing i did was i wanted a little
  132. 6:14bit of crunch on that
  133. 6:16and i grabbed the uad spl twin tube
  134. 6:19processor
  135. 6:21and i'm using more saturation than i am
  136. 6:24harmonic enhancement because i didn't
  137. 6:27want it to get too bright
  138. 6:29and here's what that sounds like
  139. 6:39so again i'm doing a kind of a lot of
  140. 6:42bus
  141. 6:43processing on these drums i'm going to
  142. 6:45put the kick channels in
  143. 6:47and we'll bring the bus processing in
  144. 6:50one at a time
  145. 6:51the first thing in that signal chain is
  146. 6:54the tubetech
  147. 6:56cl1b compressor
  148. 6:59which we have those in the rack here at
  149. 7:01the studio but
  150. 7:02we weren't at the studio we were at my
  151. 7:04house so
  152. 7:05this is a really great sounding plug-in
  153. 7:09um sounds very close to the original and
  154. 7:13i believe we're going mildly with this
  155. 7:22yeah it's a bright tube compressor and
  156. 7:25i'm
  157. 7:25barely showing one db of gain reduction
  158. 7:28we're getting quite a bit more uh gain
  159. 7:31reduction
  160. 7:32in the uad 1176
  161. 7:36uh limiting amplifier plug-in
  162. 7:41there's a a characteristic sound of the
  163. 7:44original hardware units
  164. 7:46uh due to the distinctive input
  165. 7:49transformer and line amps
  166. 7:50inside sounds great on drums i've always
  167. 7:53loved it
  168. 7:54and this does a really good job of
  169. 7:56modeling that sound
  170. 7:58we're going for a lot more character and
  171. 8:00a lot more gain reduction with this one
  172. 8:02it sounds like this
  173. 8:03[Music]
  174. 8:10starting to sound like itself now like
  175. 8:12it does in the track
  176. 8:14i'm using the pull tech eqp1a
  177. 8:18plug-in to get a little more body
  178. 8:22to the kick drum and really take it
  179. 8:25all the way toward being competitive
  180. 8:27with the 808s
  181. 8:41you can hear it's subtle but it's bigger
  182. 8:43and the final thing that i did
  183. 8:45was i employed the uad
  184. 8:48model of the classic neve line amp the
  185. 8:511272
  186. 8:53which is found throughout the 80 series
  187. 8:55consoles from the 1970s
  188. 8:58as well as their production consoles
  189. 9:00from the time the melbourne
  190. 9:01and such like so i've got the output
  191. 9:04turned down and the input turned up
  192. 9:06and that's going to give a little bit of
  193. 9:07extra crunch and glue and pull this
  194. 9:10whole thing together and make it sound
  195. 9:11tough
  196. 9:12[Music]
  197. 9:16you can hear like a flutter of air on
  198. 9:18the kick drum now and that
  199. 9:20really sits in the mix nicely
  200. 9:36on to the next example one last piece
  201. 9:39about the production of drums and snare
  202. 9:43drums specifically
  203. 9:45on funny by big branch
  204. 9:48is toward the end of the song in the
  205. 9:51last two choruses we wanted to amp
  206. 9:53things up we wanted to get bigger we
  207. 9:54wanted to get more impactful
  208. 9:56and so we decided to we we already have
  209. 10:00the
  210. 10:00the live kit that i played for you
  211. 10:02before and the 808s are back in so it's
  212. 10:05live kit
  213. 10:06and 808s together and then we bring we
  214. 10:09double
  215. 10:10and triple the live kit with a new live
  216. 10:13kit we picked a different
  217. 10:14kick drum we picked a different snare
  218. 10:16drum different hi-hats
  219. 10:18we moved it all upstairs into my living
  220. 10:20room instead of
  221. 10:21in my basement and we doubled the drums
  222. 10:24and then we tripled the drums on mono
  223. 10:26track
  224. 10:27each split them hard left and right and
  225. 10:30i'm going to play for you
  226. 10:31what those drum tracks sound like on
  227. 10:34their own
  228. 10:46interesting uh kind of small
  229. 10:50roomy um it was a 18 inch kick drum
  230. 10:53so the intent wasn't to have
  231. 10:57huge drums come in but to have a new
  232. 10:59texture come
  233. 11:00in that would layer with what's already
  234. 11:01there
  235. 11:03and those drums are just getting a
  236. 11:05little bit of
  237. 11:061176 compression
  238. 11:10well more than a little bit that's kind
  239. 11:14of a lot of gain reduction
  240. 11:16and that's bringing out the roominess of
  241. 11:17it the sound of my living room
  242. 11:20so here's what it sounds like when those
  243. 11:22come in and join the other kit on the
  244. 11:24final two choruses
  245. 11:28[Music]
  246. 11:40tonight
  247. 11:42[Music]
  248. 11:45it's cool they're you get a sense of
  249. 11:47stereo because they come in split left
  250. 11:49and right they're not exactly synced
  251. 11:50they're not quantized
  252. 11:52there's press rolls on at different
  253. 11:55times on each
  254. 11:56of the sides and it's just a really cool
  255. 11:59extra texture to have happen at the end
  256. 12:01and and really does make that snare pop
  257. 12:04this third example of how to process
  258. 12:06snare drum
  259. 12:07with plug-ins uh comes from a song
  260. 12:09called
  261. 12:10vinegar by chicago band wreath of hogs
  262. 12:14it's a big guitar
  263. 12:18kind of indie rock band quintessential
  264. 12:21almost 90s kind of sound and
  265. 12:24it was recorded very very well i mixed
  266. 12:27this i did not record it it was recorded
  267. 12:29in the audio tree studios here in
  268. 12:30chicago
  269. 12:31well first let me play for you what the
  270. 12:34kit
  271. 12:34sounds like in context going into
  272. 12:38the first chorus which gets very big
  273. 12:54[Music]
  274. 12:59so big guitars that snare punches right
  275. 13:02through
  276. 13:03it's really great sounding wasn't hard
  277. 13:05to work with in any way
  278. 13:06i will play for you what it sounded like
  279. 13:10just the raw track with no processing
  280. 13:20that's the top snare here's the bottom
  281. 13:22snare
  282. 13:27okay so starting with the top snare i
  283. 13:30reached for
  284. 13:32the uad api vision channel strip
  285. 13:37to give a slight boost to the top end
  286. 13:40little mid-range uh cut
  287. 13:43and 4 db at 200 for the bottom
  288. 13:47this is what that sounds like
  289. 13:49[Music]
  290. 13:53a little more focused a little more full
  291. 13:57and here's the bottom snare mic
  292. 14:00i always cut a boxy frequency that
  293. 14:03usually lives somewhere around 700 to
  294. 14:061200 cycles
  295. 14:07in the bottom snare with a narrow cut
  296. 14:10here
  297. 14:10i've used the uh the
  298. 14:13nev 31102 eq plug-in high q
  299. 14:17at 700 duct uh i don't know how many db
  300. 14:21that is but it's it's a good bit and
  301. 14:23here's what that sounds like
  302. 14:25[Music]
  303. 14:29bypass
  304. 14:32papery and boxy
  305. 14:37all right and those are going through
  306. 14:40their own
  307. 14:41bus and i'm bus processing them together
  308. 14:45with um the culture vulture distortion
  309. 14:49plug-in by uad you all know
  310. 14:52by now that i like a little distortion
  311. 14:54on as many things as i can get it on
  312. 14:56it brings a nice snappy
  313. 15:00crisp high-end character that you're not
  314. 15:03going to be able to access
  315. 15:05with just eq it takes a little bit of
  316. 15:07saturation to make that happen and this
  317. 15:09is what it sounds like
  318. 15:20as well as gluing the two mics together
  319. 15:22and then i have
  320. 15:24all of the drums going through a stereo
  321. 15:26buss
  322. 15:27and i'll show you the the effect that
  323. 15:30the processors
  324. 15:31in that bus have on it the first thing
  325. 15:33i've got here is the
  326. 15:35nev 1272 model
  327. 15:38um output turned down a little bit input
  328. 15:40turned up a little bit
  329. 15:42it's just a little bit of crunch not a
  330. 15:44lot
  331. 15:45[Music]
  332. 15:52a little bit of top and bottom from the
  333. 15:54pultec eqp1a
  334. 16:03a fair amount of rock and roll kind of
  335. 16:06compression on the drum buss
  336. 16:08although i've got the mix dialed back to
  337. 16:11about 60 percent
  338. 16:12it's getting about three maybe four db
  339. 16:15of gain reduction at times
  340. 16:24and then a little finishing touch with
  341. 16:26the
  342. 16:27tubetech cl1b which is
  343. 16:30a nice bright um
  344. 16:34almost glossy kind of tube compressor
  345. 16:36that we have in the rack here
  346. 16:38but um i was doing this mix in the box
  347. 16:42so here's what that brings to it
  348. 16:50[Music]
  349. 16:51[Applause]
  350. 16:55[Music]
  351. 17:01so those are a number of things that i
  352. 17:03do to help the snare drum
  353. 17:06attain the character that i'm looking
  354. 17:07for within the context of the music
  355. 17:09and cut through and do its job i do
  356. 17:13processing on individual tracks i do
  357. 17:16processing on
  358. 17:18a bus track for the multiple snare mics
  359. 17:21sometimes together
  360. 17:23and then almost always there's an amount
  361. 17:25of drum buss processing on top of that
  362. 17:28i hope that that's helpful for you this
  363. 17:29is by no means the only way to go about
  364. 17:31it i encourage you to experiment
  365. 17:33and move further from there so thanks
  366. 17:36for
  367. 17:37looking and listening and good luck with
  368. 17:40your mixes
  369. 17:47it's like i've never been kissed before

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