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Milton Friedman - The Nature of Free Market Capitalism — Transcript

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  1. 0:07when you see around the globe the
  2. 0:09maldistribution of wealth the the
  3. 0:11desperate plight of millions of people
  4. 0:13in underdeveloped countries uh when you
  5. 0:16see so few Hales and so many have knots
  6. 0:19when you when you see the greed and the
  7. 0:21concentration of power within don't
  8. 0:23aren't you ever did you ever have a
  9. 0:25moment of doubt about capitalism and
  10. 0:28whether greed's a good idea to on well
  11. 0:30first of all tell me is there some
  12. 0:32Society you know that doesn't run on
  13. 0:34Greed you think Russia doesn't run on
  14. 0:36Greed you think China doesn't run on
  15. 0:39Greed what is greed of course none of us
  16. 0:42are greedy it's only the other fellow
  17. 0:44who's
  18. 0:45greedy this the world runs on
  19. 0:49individuals pursuing their separate
  20. 0:50interests the great achievements of
  21. 0:53civilization have not come from
  22. 0:55government bureaus Einstein didn't
  23. 0:57construct his theory under order from a
  24. 1:00from a a
  25. 1:02bureaucrat Henry Ford didn't
  26. 1:03revolutionize the automobile industry
  27. 1:05that way in the only cases in which the
  28. 1:09masses have escaped from the kind of
  29. 1:11grinding poverty you're talking about
  30. 1:12the only cases in recorded history or
  31. 1:15where they where they have had
  32. 1:16capitalism and largely free trade if you
  33. 1:18want to know where the masses are worth
  34. 1:21worse off worst off it's exactly in the
  35. 1:24kinds of societies that depart from that
  36. 1:27so that the record of history is
  37. 1:29absolutely crystal clear that there is
  38. 1:31no alternative way so far discovered of
  39. 1:35improving the lot of the ordinary people
  40. 1:38that can hold a candle to the productive
  41. 1:41activities that are Unleashed by a free
  42. 1:43enterprise system but it seems to reward
  43. 1:45not virtue as much as ability to
  44. 1:47manipulate the system and what does
  45. 1:49reward virtue you think the Communist
  46. 1:51commissar rewards virtue you think a
  47. 1:54Hitler rewards virtue you think excuse
  48. 1:57me if you'll pardon me do you think
  49. 1:59American president's reward
  50. 2:02virtue do they choose their appointees
  51. 2:05on the basis of the virtue of the people
  52. 2:07appointed or on the basis of their
  53. 2:08political
  54. 2:09clout is it really true that political
  55. 2:12self-interest is nobler somehow than
  56. 2:15economic
  57. 2:16self-interest you know I think you're
  58. 2:18taking a lot of things for granted and
  59. 2:20just tell me where in the world you find
  60. 2:21these angels who are going to organize
  61. 2:24Society for
  62. 2:26us why is it we have so many a million
  63. 2:29years and everything in the United
  64. 2:31States and we still have so many
  65. 2:33impoverished people who try to get up
  66. 2:35into the world why is it we have this
  67. 2:38lack of money where people who can't
  68. 2:40support them themselves decently and get
  69. 2:42a decent job where all these big men are
  70. 2:45up on top making ooodles and ooodles of
  71. 2:47money they don't eat it they can only
  72. 2:48eat that much eat in know sleep they do
  73. 2:51it if they don't eat it and don't don't
  74. 2:53use it what do you suppose they do they
  75. 2:55it they what do you mean they it you
  76. 2:56mean they put it under their pillows
  77. 2:58that's right no they keep investing it
  78. 3:00investing it in what that's right what
  79. 3:02are they invested in well in oil and
  80. 3:04everything where I mean all these other
  81. 3:06people who are what do they invested in
  82. 3:08don't get off the subject what are they
  83. 3:09invested in well they invested in a lot
  84. 3:12of uh different things that the little
  85. 3:13people need well do they invest it in
  86. 3:16factories do some of that money end up
  87. 3:18in machines do those factories and
  88. 3:20machines provide ordinary working people
  89. 3:22with jobs or not what do you suppose the
  90. 3:24productivity of this country would be
  91. 3:26and of the the wage rate would be if the
  92. 3:29total amount of capital in this country
  93. 3:31today was what it was 100 years
  94. 3:33ago where do you suppose the
  95. 3:36improvements in productivity come from
  96. 3:37except from the re the investment by
  97. 3:40people of their savings but let me go to
  98. 3:43your fundamental question first place
  99. 3:46Nirvana is not for this world there is
  100. 3:49no Paradise of course we've got a lot of
  101. 3:52people who are poorly
  102. 3:53off but if you look at it over time if
  103. 3:56you get a sense of proportion the
  104. 3:58well-being of of the ordinary people has
  105. 4:02been the main thing that has been
  106. 4:04improved by economic progress and
  107. 4:06economic growth and development and
  108. 4:09residual most residual hard cases of
  109. 4:12poverty today are the result again of a
  110. 4:15failure of government why do we have a
  111. 4:18teenage black teenage unemployment rate
  112. 4:21in 30 to 40% because of two failures of
  113. 4:25government one a failure to provide
  114. 4:27decent schooling which is a governmental
  115. 4:29responsibility has been whether it
  116. 4:31should be or not it has been and second
  117. 4:33because of a minimum wage rate which
  118. 4:36prevents those kids who haven't had
  119. 4:38decent schooling from getting jobs at
  120. 4:41low pay at which they can earn the
  121. 4:43skills on the jobs that would enable
  122. 4:45them to rise to higher pay if you look
  123. 4:46at the sources of poverty you will find
  124. 4:49a very L most of them are derived from
  125. 4:53bad what I regard as wrong-headed
  126. 4:55Government policies I want to make sure
  127. 4:57I understand you because the government
  128. 4:59that's a minimum
  129. 5:01wage what does McDonald's do McDonald's
  130. 5:05it can't hire as many teenagers it it uh
  131. 5:08improves its Capital Equipment to serve
  132. 5:10it does Less business because it has to
  133. 5:12charge higher uh uh hamburger prices in
  134. 5:15the absence of a of a minimum wage
  135. 5:18McDonald's would be able to offer a
  136. 5:20larger number of jobs to a larger number
  137. 5:22of youngsters and they would be able to
  138. 5:23acquire some skills and not only
  139. 5:26McDonald's so we hire more people more
  140. 5:28people get work younger people younger
  141. 5:29people would work and they'd get a
  142. 5:30chance to develop their skills to become
  143. 5:32productive members of society instead of
  144. 5:35being driven into a cycle of poverty and
  145. 5:37of welfare which is absolutely
  146. 5:40deplorable the problem of trying to
  147. 5:43interpret and analyze a system either
  148. 5:46Pro or Con in terms of such Concepts as
  149. 5:49the morality of the system or the
  150. 5:51humanity of the system whether
  151. 5:53capitalism is Humane or socialism is
  152. 5:55Humane or moral or
  153. 5:57immoral the problem with that is that
  154. 5:59moral values are individual they are not
  155. 6:02Collective moral values have to do with
  156. 6:05what each of us separately believes and
  157. 6:07holds true what what our own individual
  158. 6:10values are capitalism socialism Central
  159. 6:15planning are means not
  160. 6:19ends they in and of themselves are
  161. 6:21neither moral nor immoral Humane nor hum
  162. 6:24inhumanity we have to ask what are their
  163. 6:27results we have to look and what are the
  164. 6:30consequences of adopting one or another
  165. 6:34system of
  166. 6:36organization and from that point of view
  167. 6:38the crucial thing is to look beneath the
  168. 6:40surface don't look at what the
  169. 6:42proponents of one system or another say
  170. 6:44are their intentions but look at what
  171. 6:46the actual results
  172. 6:49are
  173. 6:51socialism which means government
  174. 6:53ownership and operation of means of
  175. 6:55production has
  176. 6:57appealed to
  177. 7:00high-minded fine People to People of
  178. 7:03idealistic views because of the supposed
  179. 7:06objectives of socialism especially
  180. 7:09because of the supposed objectives of
  181. 7:11equality of equality and social justice
  182. 7:15now those are fine objectives and it's a
  183. 7:18tribute to the people of Good Will that
  184. 7:21those objectives should appeal to them
  185. 7:24but you have to ask the question does
  186. 7:26the system no matter what its proponents
  187. 7:28say produce those results and once you
  188. 7:31look at the results it's Crystal Clear
  189. 7:33that they do
  190. 7:35not but Dr fredman uh do you believe in
  191. 7:38a total less a fair libertarian
  192. 7:41economy yes I also believe there's room
  193. 7:45for government and those are not a
  194. 7:48contradiction I believe that government
  195. 7:50has some very important functions to
  196. 7:52perform it has a function of protecting
  197. 7:55individuals from physical coercion by
  198. 7:58their fellows it has a function of
  199. 8:01protecting the nation from foreign
  200. 8:03enemies it has a function of enabling us
  201. 8:05to have a forum a means through which we
  202. 8:09can decide on the rules of property and
  203. 8:11so on by which we want to conduct our
  204. 8:13Affairs and it has a function of
  205. 8:16adjudicating disputes among us those
  206. 8:18functions in my
  207. 8:20opinion are the fundamental and basic
  208. 8:23functions of government there may be
  209. 8:25some other peripheral things that
  210. 8:26government can do without doing much
  211. 8:28harm
  212. 8:30but beyond that I believe and as
  213. 8:34unfettered a free
  214. 8:36enterprise economy as is feasible within
  215. 8:40those very narrow limits for a limited
  216. 8:43government if you take the automobile
  217. 8:45industry in particular since Henry Ford
  218. 8:47really revolutionized it it transformed
  219. 8:50the nature of life in this country the
  220. 8:52automobiles improved tremendously they
  221. 8:54came down in cost relative to other
  222. 8:56Goods the effect of the of the kind of
  223. 8:59regulations you now have have has been
  224. 9:01to make automobiles not more safe but
  225. 9:04less safe why because by making them
  226. 9:07more
  227. 9:08expensive they make it pay to keep an
  228. 9:10old car on the road longer the average
  229. 9:12age of cars on the road has gone up and
  230. 9:15old cars are less safe than new cars
  231. 9:18there's no case for the government
  232. 9:20whatsoever in mandating airbags because
  233. 9:23airbags protect the people inside the
  234. 9:25car that's my business if I want to
  235. 9:27protect myself I should do it at my
  236. 9:30expense you'd be against uh mandatory
  237. 9:32wearing of helmets for motorcyclists too
  238. 9:34of course I think people ought to be
  239. 9:35free to do what they want what's it what
  240. 9:37what what's wrong with the why can't the
  241. 9:39government be paternalistic and
  242. 9:42maternalistic and care for its citizens
  243. 9:44well that depends on what kind of
  244. 9:45government you want of course it can be
  245. 9:47but it turns out that the paternalism
  246. 9:50tends to serve the interests of the
  247. 9:51people who are being paternal and not
  248. 9:52the people whom they are supposedly
  249. 9:55protecting it's often described as a
  250. 9:57profit system but that's a misleading
  251. 9:59label it's a profit and loss system and
  252. 10:02the loss part is even more important
  253. 10:04than the profit because it's what gets
  254. 10:06rid of badly managed poorly operated
  255. 10:10companies we don't we don't create
  256. 10:12inflation by our personal Behavior we
  257. 10:14create inflation by getting our
  258. 10:17legislators people in Washington to vote
  259. 10:19for more and more spending and by
  260. 10:22objecting the extra taxes and there by
  261. 10:26having it financed by printing money
  262. 10:28there's only one way you can stop
  263. 10:29inflation and that's by having the
  264. 10:32government create less money and spend
  265. 10:35less money what does the average citizen
  266. 10:38do to uh help the inflation or to fight
  267. 10:40it there is nothing the individual
  268. 10:43citizen can do to help or fight
  269. 10:45inflation in his personal Behavior All
  270. 10:48attempts to tell you it's the consumer
  271. 10:50who's doing the wasteful consumer who's
  272. 10:52producing inflation is an attempt by the
  273. 10:54government to shift shift the blame to
  274. 10:57somebody else as a citizen you can do a
  275. 11:00great deal as a citizen you can exercise
  276. 11:03your
  277. 11:04influence on your Congressman at the
  278. 11:07elections to try to elect people who are
  279. 11:10committed to cutting government
  280. 11:12spending now we don't have a free market
  281. 11:15don't kid yourself and the biggest
  282. 11:18enemies of a free market the two biggest
  283. 11:21enemies of the free market are two
  284. 11:22separate groups my academic colleagues
  285. 11:25and business people they business people
  286. 11:27are enemies of markets not
  287. 11:30friends they the the academic people are
  288. 11:35all in favor of freedom for themselves
  289. 11:37except even now they aren't even in
  290. 11:39favor of that with this politically
  291. 11:41correct nonsense that's going around but
  292. 11:44historically academic people have always
  293. 11:46been in favor of freedom for themselves
  294. 11:48they want to be able to say what they
  295. 11:49want write what they want do whatever
  296. 11:51research they want but they're all
  297. 11:53against freedom for everybody else they
  298. 11:56think that they know better what's good
  299. 11:57for the poor people people and the poor
  300. 11:59people do they think they can run the
  301. 12:01economy better than the businesses can
  302. 12:04the business people are just the
  303. 12:06opposite they're all in favor of freedom
  304. 12:08for everybody else and at the drop of a
  305. 12:12hat you can get any leading businessman
  306. 12:13to give you an L man to give you an
  307. 12:15eloquent speech on the virtues of free
  308. 12:17market but when it comes to their own
  309. 12:20business they want to go down to
  310. 12:22Washington and get a special tariff to
  311. 12:24protect their business they want a
  312. 12:25special tax deduction they want a tax
  313. 12:28Subs
  314. 12:30when Chrysler is on the verge of failing
  315. 12:33which it should have done it should have
  316. 12:34been allowed to fail Chrysler goes down
  317. 12:37and and uh exercises political influence
  318. 12:40try to get the government to lended
  319. 12:42money to subsidize
  320. 12:43it so businessmen in general not all
  321. 12:47there have been some notable exceptions
  322. 12:48and I don't want to include everybody
  323. 12:50just as not all intellectuals are in
  324. 12:54that CL but in the main most businessmen
  325. 12:58are enemies
  326. 12:59of free markets the real beneficiaries
  327. 13:02of free
  328. 13:04markets are the uh Invisible Man the
  329. 13:09small consu the
  330. 13:10consumer the ordinary worker those are
  331. 13:15the real people who benefit from free
  332. 13:17markets but
  333. 13:19unfortunately they don't have the kind
  334. 13:20of political
  335. 13:22clout there is a very important role for
  336. 13:25government to play but there's such a
  337. 13:27thing as too much of a good thing
  338. 13:29and government has been growing Beyond
  339. 13:31bounds right now and to take the
  340. 13:34simplest measure the government spending
  341. 13:37at federal state and local levels
  342. 13:39amounts to over 40% of the income of the
  343. 13:42people of the country if you go around
  344. 13:44and ask people are you getting your
  345. 13:46money's worth for that 40% of your
  346. 13:48income which is being spent on your
  347. 13:50behalf supposedly by government there
  348. 13:52are very few people who will say yes the
  349. 13:55government is too big it's too intrusive
  350. 13:58it restricts what we can do it's
  351. 14:00becoming our Master instead of our
  352. 14:02servant and we've got to react against
  353. 14:05it and cut it down to
  354. 14:11size

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