Michael Knowles vs Gay Activist: HEATED Pride Month Debate — Transcript

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1. 0:00I want to point out.
2. 0:00>> a deviant for being gay.
3. 0:02>> Yeah, but deviant.
4. 0:03>> So, when you look at Mickey and Minnie
5. 0:04Mouse, [music] you think they're having
6. 0:05sex? Is that what you're saying?
7. 0:06>> mice. I totally believe in in your
8. 0:09[music] right to marry. I want you to
9. 0:10have every right that I have, which is
10. 0:13to marry a woman.
11. 0:16>> [laughter]
12. 0:17>> Why don't you get a month? Why why gay
13. 0:19people?
14. 0:19>> What do you mean, why gay people?
15. 0:20>> Why don't you get a month?
16. 0:21>> Well, it's not just gay people, but it's
17. 0:22LGBTQ+ people.
18. 0:24>> Well, hang on. What What's the exact
19. 0:25number of
20. 0:26>> It is a month
21. 0:26>> Well, hang on. Hang on.
22. 0:27>> It is a month
23. 0:28>> Hang on. LGBTQ+ You missed out Q.
24. 0:31>> It is a month
25. 0:32>> you leave out Q?
26. 0:33>> You can't exclude people.
27. 0:35>> Who's [laughter] included?
28. 0:36>> Shut up, Michael.
29. 0:37>> The Hang on, but because it's now LGBT
30. 0:39plus two Q and then
31. 0:42>> Of course.
32. 0:42>> Hang on, I've got to hear it. It's Do
33. 0:44you know what it is? Do you know what
34. 0:44the exact latest one
35. 0:45>> Well, because it changes lots and it's
36. 0:47lots of different communities celebrate
37. 0:49lots of different versions of it. But
38. 0:50overall, it it's LGBTQ+.
39. 0:52>> No, it's LGBTQIA2SL+.
40. 0:56>> Right, sure. Well, that's great.
41. 0:58>> of that mean?
42. 0:58>> What do you Are you now going to test me
43. 1:00on what that is?
44. 1:01>> [laughter]
45. 1:02>> Cuz I've no idea. That's amazing.
46. 1:03>> two means two-spirit. I heard that one.
47. 1:06>> It's uh in modern
48. 1:08>> What's that about?
49. 1:09>> Uh queer or questioning and then also
50. 1:11intersex, asexual.
51. 1:12>> Okay, and then and then two-spirit.
52. 1:15>> Yeah, two-spirit.
53. 1:15>> Yeah. What's that?
54. 1:16>> I think that is a American
55. 1:20>> You know I have no
56. 1:21>> I actually TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW.
57. 1:23BUT LISTEN.
58. 1:23>> WE'RE CELEBRATING SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO
59. 1:25IDEA WHAT YOU'RE CELEBRATING. [laughter]
60. 1:27>> IN THE INTEREST OF PRIDE, I'LL TELL you
61. 1:29what it is.
62. 1:29>> Oh, great.
63. 1:29>> They say that two-spirit was this
64. 1:32ancient Native American sexual identity,
65. 1:35but it's not actually. It was invented
66. 1:37in 1990.
67. 1:39>> Knowles know this and you guys
68. 1:40>> Because I'll tell you exactly why.
69. 1:41Because
70. 1:42Because Michael is more obsessed with
71. 1:44gay people than even I am, and I sleep
72. 1:47with men. That's why Michael knows what
73. 1:49they say.
74. 1:49>> We always get We social conservatives,
75. 1:51we're always accused of being obsessed
76. 1:53with these issues. And I say, "Hey, no,
77. 1:54no, no, listen."
78. 1:55>> I I didn't invite myself to sit here and
79. 1:57talk about this with you.
80. 1:58>> I'll tell you I'll tell you how we won't
81. 1:59talk about it anymore. I like the way
82. 2:01things were before Pride Month. I like
83. 2:03the way things were for years with the
84. 2:05with men go to the men's bathroom, women
85. 2:06go to the women's. People kind of be
86. 2:08quiet if they're
87. 2:08>> with gay marriage?
88. 2:10>> Uh no, before that. I'm happy
89. 2:11>> Oh, you want to go all the way back? You
90. 2:12want to go all the way back?
91. 2:13>> Yeah, to like 2015. Yeah, I want to go
92. 2:14all the way back to 2015. Yeah, to like
93. 2:17the real meaning of marriage. So,
94. 2:18anyway, I'm totally fine with that. And
95. 2:19then it was the social revolutionaries
96. 2:21who wanted to change everything.
97. 2:22>> Why do you have to go all the way back?
98. 2:23>> And then I just object to it and I say,
99. 2:25"Hey, I don't think that's a great
100. 2:26idea." And you say, "Why are you so
101. 2:27obsessed?" Why?
102. 2:28>> "I didn't change it."
103. 2:29>> Why do Why is it not okay for men to
104. 2:31marry men, women to marry women?
105. 2:33>> Because they can't. It's like why can't
106. 2:34a circle be a square? It just isn't.
107. 2:36>> Well, that doesn't make any sense.
108. 2:37That's not an answer to my question. Why
109. 2:38do you believe that that isn't okay?
110. 2:40>> Because marriage in its nature is the
111. 2:42union between a a man and a woman for
112. 2:43the purpose
113. 2:44>> According to According to marriage,
114. 2:46according to what it is.
115. 2:47>> According to the Bible?
116. 2:49>> No, according to nature.
117. 2:50>> Right.
118. 2:51Insane. According to nature.
119. 2:53>> Yeah, yeah. It's like what
120. 2:54>> What are you talking about, according to
121. 2:56nature?
122. 2:56>> Well, marriage
123. 2:57>> You've seen in nature that that there
124. 2:58are gay animals, right?
125. 3:00>> Yeah, that's not marriage. They're not
126. 3:01married.
127. 3:01>> No, because marriage is what? Like
128. 3:03>> But marriage is the union of a man
129. 3:06But it's a social connotation.
130. 3:08But Michael, do you
131. 3:09Do you accept
132. 3:10>> Cuz as you just quite rightly pointed
133. 3:11out, animals don't get married
134. 3:13naturally in the wild.
135. 3:14>> I'm about to say something I'm about to
136. 3:16say something you might agree with. So,
137. 3:17shut up a minute.
138. 3:19>> [laughter]
139. 3:19>> Right?
140. 3:20Do you accept that his proclivities to
141. 3:22having sex with other men
142. 3:24>> But it's also love. I want to make that
143. 3:26distinction.
144. 3:27>> but but is a is a natural thing.
145. 3:29>> Uh yeah, I I think that there are all
146. 3:31sorts of kind of weird deviancies and
147. 3:33aberrations that come out
148. 3:35>> an okay word to use about homosexuals.
149. 3:37>> If it's natural, why is it deviant?
150. 3:39>> Well, because we mean natural in two
151. 3:40different ways. We mean natural like
152. 3:42things that just happen.
153. 3:44Like you know, animals will kill each
154. 3:46other and eat each other. Or the
155. 3:47cannibalism is natural, I guess, in that
156. 3:48way. And we also mean natural as uh
157. 3:51participation in like the moral law and
158. 3:53the eternal law. So, you say, "Well,
159. 3:55it's Look, it's maybe cannibalism is
160. 3:56natural in a certain sense,
161. 3:58but really it's totally contrary to the
162. 4:00natural law. It's not good for human
163. 4:01beings. So, we shouldn't do it." And so,
164. 4:02when I say marriage is a natural
165. 4:04institution, all I'm pointing out
166. 4:05>> he's a deviant
167. 4:06>> for being gay? Yeah, a little deviant,
168. 4:08yeah, a little bit. Everybody's a little
169. 4:09bit.
170. 4:10>> of it. The thing is, people that are
171. 4:11homophobic, which you are being a little
172. 4:13bit right now, are always always
173. 4:16closeted gay men afraid of their own
174. 4:17feelings.
175. 4:17>> Hold on.
176. 4:18>> The research says it.
177. 4:19>> Wait a second.
178. 4:20>> What I think is happening here is that
179. 4:21you are
180. 4:21>> [laughter]
181. 4:21>> so much about afraid of your own
182. 4:23closeted homosexual feelings. And that's
183. 4:25why you're saying it's not natural.
184. 4:27>> What's amazing about
185. 4:27>> It's interestingly
186. 4:29Interestingly, they
187. 4:30did gay version therapy?
188. 4:31>> Hold on. I I've never made any I've
189. 4:33never made any claims.
190. 4:34>> Because it worked on me. Well, that's
191. 4:35why I'm gay.
192. 4:36>> What's so amazing about that rejoinder,
193. 4:38which you always hear, is if you express
194. 4:39the view of homosexuality held by
195. 4:42Christians, religious Jews, Muslims,
196. 4:45like uh perfectly ordinary
197. 4:46>> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
198. 4:47>> If you just express that view, notice
199. 4:50what the really pro-LGBT activists will
200. 4:52always say. The very first thing they'll
201. 4:54do to insult you is to say, "Well,
202. 4:55actually you're secretly gay." And I
203. 4:57say, "I wasn't even using it as an
204. 4:58insult. You're the one using it as an
205. 5:00insult."
206. 5:00>> I didn't say you're secretly gay because
207. 5:01of that. I said you're secretly gay
208. 5:02because you're being homophobic and
209. 5:04saying I'm a deviant.
210. 5:05>> Well, let me tell you what that is.
211. 5:06That's the thing.
212. 5:06>> But that is because you're afraid of gay
213. 5:08people. And the only reason that would
214. 5:09be is because of that. And let me just
215. 5:11come back to what you said about
216. 5:12religion. Um Leviticus, which is a
217. 5:14chapter in the Bible that most people
218. 5:15are drawing on.
219. 5:16>> of the Bible.
220. 5:17>> It's a book, sorry, chapter, whatever.
221. 5:19They I don't mean to offend anyone here,
222. 5:20but that was written by um the Jewish
223. 5:22people after the Babylonians invaded as
224. 5:25a sort of strict moral code, right?
225. 5:27You're impressed by how intelligent I am
226. 5:28sounding briefly.
227. 5:30That is not God's word. That is the word
228. 5:33of a strict moral code that came in
229. 5:35after an invasion, after a war. There
230. 5:37are so many other chapters that are
231. 5:38ignored, other just texts that are
232. 5:40ignored.
233. 5:41>> your edification, uh Christians and Jews
234. 5:43and Muslims believe that the Bible is in
235. 5:45fact God's word. It's not that God
236. 5:47literally
237. 5:48>> literally isn't God's word.
238. 5:50>> But I'm just pointing out to you you say
239. 5:52that a Jewish scribe wrote down the book
240. 5:54of Leviticus, therefore it's not God's
241. 5:55word. The Christian belief is not that
242. 5:56God like literally a hand came out of
243. 5:58the cloud to write the Bible. It's that
244. 5:59God inspired the the men who wrote the
245. 6:02>> Okay, but why are the men that wrote
246. 6:03that book correct and the other books
247. 6:05that weren't included incorrect?
248. 6:07>> What other books?
249. 6:08>> The other Okay, I want you to read a
250. 6:09book
251. 6:10>> Why why are books that are not in the
252. 6:11Bible
253. 6:11>> I would like you to read a book called
254. 6:12The Queer Thing About Sin, which dives
255. 6:14into this quite deeply.
256. 6:15>> Can you explain the point though? I'm
257. 6:16trying to get to the point that
258. 6:17>> is that a lot of books were written
259. 6:19around then and only certain ones were
260. 6:20chosen. Also, you're only having to
261. 6:22defend yourself from that book.
262. 6:23>> Yes, books
263. 6:25that were not the Bible were also
264. 6:27written at the same
265. 6:27>> All right, let me just ask you again.
266. 6:28But let me ask you again.
267. 6:30>> But regardless of your individual views
268. 6:32about this, okay?
269. 6:34Why do you get a month to just go on
270. 6:37about being gay? But why why do you?
271. 6:39>> It's not a month to go on about being
272. 6:41gay.
273. 6:41>> Have a day. Have a pride day. But why a
274. 6:43month?
275. 6:44>> We have lots of different pride events
276. 6:45all over the world. Um I think it's an
277. 6:47important month because it shows people
278. 6:49that we're okay. We're allowed to exist
279. 6:51and that the world supports us.
280. 6:52>> But surely you've reached a point now
281. 6:54where this is This is generally
282. 6:55>> No, because we haven't because there's
283. 6:56idiots like Michael here. Bless you.
284. 6:59>> Listen, I'm I'm a fan. I'm from New
285. 7:02York.
286. 7:02>> You're a fan of an idiot.
287. 7:04>> [laughter]
288. 7:04>> I don't want to offend you.
289. 7:08>> I'm a little bit confused. Look, he's
290. 7:09happy to share a platform with a
291. 7:10deviant. You think you're a fan of an
292. 7:13idiot. I mean, forgive me if I'm making
293. 7:15you feel a little bit confused.
294. 7:16>> Listen, I don't
295. 7:17>> Wait, now you're confused? Does that
296. 7:18mean that you are part of the LGBT
297. 7:20community?
298. 7:20>> sexuality, no.
299. 7:21>> No, listen.
300. 7:21>> He's not a queer.
301. 7:22>> I've never harbored any indecent
302. 7:24thoughts towards you.
303. 7:24>> I I think your question is a bit you're
304. 7:27simplifying it slightly and I think you
305. 7:28know why.
306. 7:29>> I'm genuinely confused. I get why
307. 7:32certain days get celebrated as a day,
308. 7:34right? Where you have a day where the
309. 7:36world's focus is on Okay, that day, that
310. 7:39day. And there are many many many days
311. 7:40like that and I'm all in favor of that's
312. 7:42fine. And I'd be totally fine with a
313. 7:44pride day around the world where
314. 7:46everyone who's LGBTQIA2S,
315. 7:50you don't even know what 2S means.
316. 7:53Just to to your point we had a day.
317. 7:55HANG ON. HANG ON.
318. 7:56>> It's It's a term used by some indigenous
319. 7:58North American people to describe
320. 8:00individuals whose spirits are a blend of
321. 8:02both masculine and feminine
322. 8:03>> was invented in 1990 by a woman who said
323. 8:05it came to her in a dream.
324. 8:06>> So it's a totally modern
325. 8:08Let me just explain to you what it is.
326. 8:10>> nonsense.
327. 8:11>> And and as always, you know, when when
328. 8:12people talk about things like two-spirit
329. 8:14whatever, and I start to say well I can
330. 8:16identify as whatever I want and I do the
331. 8:17old okay, I want to be a two-spirit
332. 8:19penguin. And then you all go but that's
333. 8:21ridiculous. But who are you supporting a
334. 8:24month celebrating a series of
335. 8:26terminology which you don't even know
336. 8:28what some of it means.
337. 8:30>> As a gay man, I'm supporting anyone in
338. 8:32the LGBTQ+ community.
339. 8:34>> Why would you exclude Why would you
340. 8:36exclude the two-spirit?
341. 8:38Why are you excluding the two-spirit?
342. 8:40>> Like can someone within my own community
343. 8:43>> I think they'll be assaulted as you will
344. 8:45be assaulted as I am. In fact,
345. 8:47describe what a two-spirit penguin
346. 8:49>> I think in the UK we don't have
347. 8:50two-spirit, so I'm not completely across
348. 8:53that. And I don't
349. 8:54>> like to apologize to the two-spirit
350. 8:55community?
351. 8:56>> Would you like to apologize to the
352. 8:57two-spirit community?
353. 8:58>> Why?
354. 8:58>> Because you supports them. He's
355. 8:59including them.
356. 9:00>> Right. Great.
357. 9:00>> I've included them. You haven't.
358. 9:02>> Yeah.
359. 9:03What do you want What do you want to say
360. 9:04to the two-spirit?
361. 9:05>> Can I tell you
362. 9:06>> to the two-spirit community for not for
363. 9:07for not knowing what they mean?
364. 9:09>> Yeah, sure. I apologize to the
365. 9:10two-spirit community for not knowing
366. 9:12what that means.
367. 9:13>> But do you Do you apologize for not Do
368. 9:15you accept
369. 9:15>> But I would like to understand.
370. 9:17>> this is part of the problem that we're
371. 9:18We're spending a month celebrating stuff
372. 9:20which you can't even explain what we're
373. 9:21celebrating.
374. 9:22>> let me get a word in. And the reason
375. 9:24that I don't understand what it is is
376. 9:25because people like you are just
377. 9:26shouting over LGBTQ+ people who are
378. 9:28>> No, you wouldn't have understood it
379. 9:30however long I gave you.
380. 9:32You wouldn't
381. 9:32>> Can I tell you
382. 9:33>> however LONG I GAVE YOU.
383. 9:34>> CAN I tell you why I think a pride month
384. 9:36is important?
385. 9:37>> Yes.
386. 9:37>> I think it is important because when I
387. 9:39grew up as gay at school, I lived in
388. 9:41section 28, which was a law in the UK
389. 9:43that banned teachers or anybody
390. 9:45discussing gay people. So, nobody knew
391. 9:48what gay was. So, when I was bullied for
392. 9:50being gay, and people still get bullied
393. 9:51all the time in the UK for being LGBTQ+
394. 9:54two-spirit around the world, that is
395. 9:57very difficult. And I think pride month
396. 9:59gives TV shows, stations, conversations
397. 10:02like this a platform
398. 10:03>> explaining it.
399. 10:05>> alone that they are not alone.
400. 10:07>> I get it. And look, it was it was
401. 10:08illegal to be gay when I was born.
402. 10:10>> Exactly.
403. 10:10>> Right? So, I'm not oblivious to
404. 10:12>> not gay.
405. 10:13>> Yeah, but but but so it's why I don't I
406. 10:15don't I hope you would say I don't have
407. 10:16a trace of homophobia about me. I've
408. 10:19always been completely tolerant of LGBT
409. 10:22community.
410. 10:23>> Well, you hide behind
411. 10:24I lose it when you get into all the
412. 10:25other letters cuz even you don't know
413. 10:26what they mean.
414. 10:27>> But I'm not those letters. So, why would
415. 10:29I necessarily know what they mean?
416. 10:31So, you only care
417. 10:32>> No, I don't only [laughter] care about
418. 10:33>> care about certain numbers of letters
419. 10:35for pride month.
420. 10:36>> Do you know about every single different
421. 10:37type of straight person all over the
422. 10:39world?
423. 10:39>> It's not really wanting a month to
424. 10:40celebrate it. You don't.
425. 10:41>> It's that's so you're over simplifying
426. 10:44it.
427. 10:44>> Forget the two-spirit for a second. You
428. 10:45mentioned the T. Do in pride month, are
429. 10:48we really expected to support the T? In
430. 10:50other words, am I obligated to believe
431. 10:53this ludicrous notion that a man can
432. 10:55really be a woman? Is that Am I a hater?
433. 10:57Am I a bigot? Am I secretly trans if I
434. 10:59don't believe in that?
435. 11:00>> that you are obligated to believe or
436. 11:02support anything if you don't want to.
437. 11:04>> Great.
438. 11:04>> But I personally do.
439. 11:06>> But publicly I have to because pride is
440. 11:07everywhere and you can all see the signs
441. 11:09all over the public sphere. There are
442. 11:10flags everywhere. There are there are
443. 11:12lessons in schools. There are
444. 11:14commercials on TV.
445. 11:15>> would you mind if we had a straight day?
446. 11:17>> No. I wouldn't mind at all.
447. 11:19>> What if we had a straight year?
448. 11:20>> You do have a straight year. But if you
449. 11:21want to have one specific
450. 11:23>> I went out and had a lot of flags
451. 11:24celebrating
452. 11:25>> I'm fine with that.
453. 11:26>> straight day.
454. 11:27>> that in the US and no one showed up. It
455. 11:29bombed. I think it was Washington or
456. 11:32somewhere else. They quite funny.
457. 11:33>> You should have gone.
458. 11:34>> This is the I know, I didn't get
459. 11:35invited. Maybe they thought I was gay.
460. 11:36They This is my problem with the Pride
461. 11:38Month is one pride is like you know, the
462. 11:41queen of all sins you know, and and now
463. 11:43the sin of all queens some might say.
464. 11:44But we Why does one have to have pride
465. 11:47when you could just say look, it's a
466. 11:49crazy world. People sometimes do some
467. 11:51aberrant things. But you know, we all
468. 11:53like Cole Porter and Noel Coward. Why
469. 11:55Why another word?
470. 11:56>> what I'm doing aberrant? Sorry,
471. 11:57abhorrent. What are you talking about?
472. 11:58>> Because men the natural end of the
473. 12:01natural end of the man
474. 12:03>> love?
475. 12:03>> tell you what. That's That's why I'm
476. 12:04saying you're you're in the closet
477. 12:06because you immediately think of gay
478. 12:07men. [laughter]
479. 12:07>> Sexualized love.
480. 12:09>> You think of two gay men and you
481. 12:10immediately jump to deviant, abhorrent.
482. 12:13Like really what we're talking about is
483. 12:15love, okay?
484. 12:15>> No.
485. 12:16>> You decide to take it sexual. I'm not
486. 12:18talking about sex.
487. 12:19>> gay stuff is sexual. Is that not Am I
488. 12:21wrong in the way that gay stuff is
489. 12:22sexual?
490. 12:22>> about you and your wife, do I
491. 12:23immediately jump to that being sexual?
492. 12:25>> That is a sexual relationship.
493. 12:26>> at Mickey and Minnie Mouse and be like,
494. 12:28oh, they're actually definitely having
495. 12:29sex?
496. 12:29>> If they're married, then sex is
497. 12:31involved.
498. 12:32>> you look at Mickey and Minnie Mouse, you
499. 12:33think they're having sex? Is that what
500. 12:35happens?
501. 12:35>> they're mice. They're not people. I
502. 12:36don't know their age. I don't know if
503. 12:38they're legally married. But if you were
504. 12:39to see them celebrating pride, you'd be
505. 12:40offended and you'd say
506. 12:42>> How dare they?
507. 12:42>> You ask why do I say it's deviant. I'm
508. 12:44not saying it I'm not like you know
509. 12:46>> Well, no, I asked you why you're not
510. 12:47offended when you see two straight
511. 12:49cartoons, but you would be offended when
512. 12:50you talk talk to straight
513. 12:51>> straight because like marriage, straight
514. 12:54relationships are normal and good.
515. 12:56>> You are just repeating yourself. You're
516. 12:57not answering my question. Why are you
517. 12:59sexualizing two men in love who have
518. 13:02sex?
519. 13:04>> Why Because that's kind of what defines
520. 13:05it.
521. 13:05>> But that's not what pride is. We're not
522. 13:06saying, "Oh my god, look, we're all
523. 13:08having sex. We're all each
524. 13:09other." That's not what pride is.
525. 13:10>> Well, that is how the pride parades
526. 13:11actually do generally play out on
527. 13:13mainstream
528. 13:13>> is literally saying
529. 13:14>> Like there's like leather and weird
530. 13:15spanking or something. It's It is.
531. 13:17That's how they do it.
532. 13:17>> But the straight community do that as
533. 13:19well.
534. 13:19>> No, we don't have We just We just
535. 13:20acknowledge we don't have
536. 13:21>> Oh my god, you are joking. Straight
537. 13:23people have so many kinks.
538. 13:24>> We do not have any spanking
539. 13:26ever.
540. 13:26>> What do you watch when you're watching
541. 13:27[laughter] porn?
542. 13:27>> I do not watch porn.
543. 13:28>> Come on, you must. What's your category?
544. 13:30>> I don't watch pornography.
545. 13:31>> Really, you don't? What's this? Is this
546. 13:33your hand on the Bible?
547. 13:34>> Yeah, I don't have a Bible on me. I
548. 13:35don't have a
549. 13:35>> Okay, you never watch. What about when
550. 13:37you were at college?
551. 13:38>> No, you know, I might have seen a naked
552. 13:39lady once or twice.
553. 13:40>> Okay, [laughter] and what kind of naked
554. 13:42lady are you into? What are your kinks?
555. 13:43>> I don't
556. 13:44>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE DOING WITH YOUR WIFE?
557. 13:46WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEXUALIZE MY
558. 13:47COMMUNITY,
559. 13:48>> I love what you said.
560. 13:48>> [laughter]
561. 13:48>> I love WHAT YOU SAID.
562. 13:49HE GOES, "WHY DO YOU THINK GAY people
563. 13:51are
564. 13:52>> Because I'm doing the same game because
565. 13:53I'm doing the same because [laughter]
566. 13:54I'm giving you back the
567. 13:55>> Here's Here's why we would say it's
568. 13:56deviant. Is because man has like natural
569. 13:58ends. Like the eye is for seeing, the
570. 14:00glass is for drinking water out of. And
571. 14:02man has a sexual end, which is sexual
572. 14:04congress with women, which creates
573. 14:06babies.
574. 14:06>> Okay, why do you have a G-spot? Why do
575. 14:09you have a G-spot in your bum?
576. 14:11>> Okay.
577. 14:11>> I don't.
578. 14:12>> Yes, you did.
579. 14:13>> I don't.
580. 14:13>> You actually do.
581. 14:14>> I don't.
582. 14:14>> It's scientifically proven.
583. 14:15[clears throat]
584. 14:16If you go all the way back to ancient
585. 14:17Rome, men have been having sex with men
586. 14:20>> want to clarify for the audience
587. 14:21>> for a long time.
588. 14:22>> I do not
589. 14:23>> where he says
590. 14:25>> These TikTok clips of me they're going
591. 14:26to blow up. I just want to say that.
592. 14:28>> You're literally lying. You're You're
593. 14:29like missing out on so much. You could
594. 14:31be doing
595. 14:31>> I don't have a G-spot.
596. 14:32>> Well, you do and your wife and you
597. 14:34should enjoy it.
598. 14:34>> Let me just conclude things by saying,
599. 14:37James, I have no problem with who you
600. 14:38have sex with. You can have sex with
601. 14:40whoever
602. 14:40>> It's not about sex.
603. 14:42>> Stop bringing it up.
604. 14:43>> or who you love
605. 14:44>> to sex.
606. 14:44>> or who you love or who you want to
607. 14:46marry. You have my blessing for all the
608. 14:48rights that I enjoy and I believe that
609. 14:51firmly.
610. 14:51>> On that, I totally disagree.
611. 14:53>> Well, I but I agree with Piers because I
612. 14:54would say I totally believe in in your
613. 14:57right to marry. I want you to have every
614. 14:59right that I have, which is to marry a
615. 15:01woman.
616. 15:04>> [laughter]
617. 15:05>> By the way,
618. 15:06>> Well,
619. 15:07>> by the way,
620. 15:07>> That isn't going to happen.
621. 15:08>> when you said that, you know, maybe he's
622. 15:09in the closet and that's you know, a lot
623. 15:11of gay guys eventually go the other way.
624. 15:14>> [laughter]
625. 15:15>> What You're suggesting that I'm going to
626. 15:16marry
627. 15:16>> you're probably one of the least likely
628. 15:18gay people I've met that would turn the
629. 15:19other way. Thank [laughter] you so much.
630. 15:21>> And let's see.
631. 15:21>> You never know.
632. 15:22>> I I'd love Piers to celebrate your
633. 15:25Arsenal win and I'm very proud of the
634. 15:27guys for celebrating pride. So anytime
635. 15:31you want to take me up the Arsenal, I'M
636. 15:32READY.
637. 15:33>> [laughter]
638. 15:37>> ON THAT ON THAT
639. 15:40ON THAT NOTE.
640. 15:41>> [laughter]
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