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  1. 0:00Translator: Marcelo Papetti Reviewer: Maricene Crus
  2. 0:04I have a 13-year-old daughter.
  3. 0:07In 2012, during the financial crisis,
  4. 0:11when the stock markets crashed worldwide,
  5. 0:14she was five years younger, so she must have been eight or nine.
  6. 0:17We were watching the news.
  7. 0:19We were having lunch and watching the news,
  8. 0:22and a bald guy with a tie came up,
  9. 0:25an anchorman who always presented bad news.
  10. 0:28He's the one who broke the news about the tsunami and the plane that went down.
  11. 0:32And that day he said, "Breaking news,
  12. 0:35stock markets crashed worldwide."
  13. 0:37My daughter looked at me, like this, and I went pale.
  14. 0:41The guy went on and said, "Bonds' nominal prices went up
  15. 0:45due to the impossibility to sustain debt obligations."
  16. 0:48My daughter looked at me.
  17. 0:49(Laughter)
  18. 0:50"Investment banks collapsed," he said, "Shareholders are committing suicide."
  19. 0:54She opened her eyes wide and so did I.
  20. 0:57I obviously got scared because something serious was going on.
  21. 1:01My daughter Nina,
  22. 1:02who always asked me about tsunamis and planes that crashed -
  23. 1:06A tsunami was easy to explain: it's the epicenter of a thing in the sea,
  24. 1:10and then the Filipinos die - it's simple.
  25. 1:12(Laughter)
  26. 1:13She asked, "What's going on? Is it serious, dad?"
  27. 1:17And I realized I didn't have the slightest idea
  28. 1:20about how to explain to a child what was going on.
  29. 1:24An earthquake is easy to explain,
  30. 1:26but how do you explain a child the collapse of the financial system?
  31. 1:30It can't be explained, mainly because it's intangible.
  32. 1:33But since I'm very stubborn,
  33. 1:35and in my spare time I'm also a writer,
  34. 1:38I set out to do it and wrote a children's story.
  35. 1:43The following day, while watching the news,
  36. 1:46she asked me again,
  37. 1:47so I told her the story that I want to share with you now.
  38. 1:51I told Nina that once upon a time
  39. 1:55there was a very peaceful village
  40. 1:57and a man named Pepe, our main character,
  41. 2:00lived in the outskirts of the village.
  42. 2:03One afternoon, Pepe went for a walk and he felt thirsty.
  43. 2:07When he returned home, he opened a bottle of wine,
  44. 2:09and while he was drinking wine, he realized something,
  45. 2:12something that nobody had ever realized: there were no bars in the village,
  46. 2:17not a single bar.
  47. 2:19Pepe thought that if he opened a bar,
  48. 2:21he could make others happy by pouring them drinks,
  49. 2:25and that he could even make some money.
  50. 2:28He felt happy with the idea of opening a bar.
  51. 2:32That afternoon, his friend Moncho dropped by his place
  52. 2:35and gave him a great name for the bar.
  53. 2:38And everyone knows that when an idea gets a name,
  54. 2:41it begins to take off.
  55. 2:44Pepe made a list of what he needed to open the first bar in the village -
  56. 2:49Nina looked at me with her eyes wide open. The story was fine so far -
  57. 2:53Pepe realized he needed to buy tables, chairs, glasses, paint
  58. 2:57and a tethering post so his clients could tie up their horses
  59. 3:01and get into the bar.
  60. 3:03He did the math, and all of that should cost him around 10,000 coins.
  61. 3:07Of course Pepe didn't have 10,000 coins, because he was poor,
  62. 3:10but overnight he devised a way to get those 10,000 coins.
  63. 3:15He cut a thousand little pieces of paper,
  64. 3:18and he wrote on each one of them,
  65. 3:21"Coming soon: Pepe's Bar."
  66. 3:23He wrote that a thousand times.
  67. 3:25The following Sunday, after mass,
  68. 3:27he went to the village square in his best suit,
  69. 3:31and he told everyone there,
  70. 3:34"Dear neighbors, I'm opening a bar in the outskirts of the village."
  71. 3:38Everybody looked at him. Some said, "Great idea!"
  72. 3:41Pepe felt very happy with everyone's attention,
  73. 3:44and then he showed the thousand pieces of paper in his hand and said -
  74. 3:49I said to Nina, "This is important." -
  75. 3:52Pepe said,
  76. 3:53"Each one of these little papers costs 10 coins."
  77. 3:57The neighbors looked at him.
  78. 3:59"The person who buys one of these has to keep it
  79. 4:02because in one month, when I open my bar,
  80. 4:05I'll pay 12 coins for each little paper you give back to me."
  81. 4:11There were whispers all over the square.
  82. 4:14Moncho, who was the village fool, asked,
  83. 4:17"Wait Pepe! The little pieces of paper only cost 10 coins.
  84. 4:20Why would you give away two extra coins?"
  85. 4:23Pepe said, "It's not a giveaway, it is compensation.
  86. 4:26I'll compensate with two extra coins
  87. 4:29those who help me accomplish my dream of opening a bar."
  88. 4:33The mayor came up front and said,
  89. 4:36"It makes perfect sense! Well done, Pepe!"
  90. 4:40Ernesto, who was rich and knew about business, said,
  91. 4:44"I think it's a great idea."
  92. 4:46Father Ricardo, while pulling some coins from underneath his cassock, said,
  93. 4:51"That's a very Christian idea! I want some of your little papers."
  94. 4:57And everybody started buying Pepe's little papers.
  95. 5:01In such a simple way and in only one morning,
  96. 5:04Pepe got the money to open his bar.
  97. 5:06Pepe sold all 1,000 little papers among all neighbors.
  98. 5:10"I bought two," said Sabino, who was poor but optimistic.
  99. 5:13"I bought 36," shouted Quique, who was greedy and arrogant.
  100. 5:18Pepe returned home with 10,000 coins in his backpack
  101. 5:21and fell asleep thinking about his dream of opening a bar.
  102. 5:24The following day was a Monday, and Pepe traveled to town
  103. 5:28and bought wood to build a counter and bought some paint.
  104. 5:32He went back home and started working.
  105. 5:35He didn't set foot in the village square for the following four weeks.
  106. 5:40That means - I said to Nina -
  107. 5:42that Pepe had no idea about the disaster that was going to occur
  108. 5:46because of his little papers.
  109. 5:48At that point, I stopped the story,
  110. 5:50and I looked at my daughter to see if she was following it.
  111. 5:54It is important to check if children understand your metaphors,
  112. 5:57especially if it is a complex idea.
  113. 6:00She said, "Dad, this has nothing to do with what the bald guy said on TV.
  114. 6:04But it's fun. Go on!"
  115. 6:06(Laughter)
  116. 6:07So I went on.
  117. 6:08I told her what happened in the village during the first week.
  118. 6:13That Monday, the square was very crowded, much more than on an ordinary Monday.
  119. 6:19Many neighbors had spent the whole night
  120. 6:22cutting their own little papers
  121. 6:24because they had also realized that they had projects
  122. 6:28that they couldn't accomplish due to a lack of coins.
  123. 6:31Some little papers said,
  124. 6:32"Coming soon: Horacio's ice cream parlor."
  125. 6:36Other little papers said, "Soon: Carmen's beauty salon."
  126. 6:40And there were even little papers written by Moncho,
  127. 6:43with misspellings, that said,
  128. 6:46"By the end of the month, I'll get you to the Moon."
  129. 6:48(Laughter)
  130. 6:50Suddenly, people were climbing the streetlights
  131. 6:53so that other people could buy their little papers.
  132. 6:56They were climbing the water fountain to trade little papers for coins.
  133. 7:00Tuesday was even worse, and on Wednesday,
  134. 7:03it was so crowded that it was impossible to walk on the village square.
  135. 7:07The mayor, in order to keep order,
  136. 7:08had to facilitate a space in the Town Hall
  137. 7:12for the neighbors to gather
  138. 7:14and exchange the papers without destroying the square.
  139. 7:16That place was inaugurated Thursday
  140. 7:19and was given the name of "The Little Papers Hall."
  141. 7:22So by Friday, everyone who had a project
  142. 7:26had obtained the necessary coins, and they had started working.
  143. 7:30Horacio was buying milk, cream and ice for his ice cream parlor.
  144. 7:34Pepe was sawing wood for his bar.
  145. 7:38Carmen was sharpening scissors for her upcoming beauty salon,
  146. 7:41and Moncho had bought two skinny horses to get people to the Moon.
  147. 7:46(Laughter)
  148. 7:47In The Little Papers Hall there was only a group of neighbors left,
  149. 7:51the ones who had never thought about any interesting projects.
  150. 7:56The only thing these neighbors had
  151. 7:59were little papers made by other people.
  152. 8:02One of them, Ramón, complained out loud,
  153. 8:06"Gee!" he said,
  154. 8:07"Now I need coins for cigarettes, and I don't have any.
  155. 8:10A few days ago, I traded my last 10 coins for a little paper,
  156. 8:14and now I need to smoke."
  157. 8:16"Same with me," said Luis.
  158. 8:18"I want to go see a movie, but I can't."
  159. 8:20The complaints were getting louder until Sabino, who was clever,
  160. 8:25held his little paper in the air, and he said, "Let's see, guys.
  161. 8:28In three weeks, Pepe will pay 12 coins
  162. 8:32to whomever has this paper that I bought for 10 coins.
  163. 8:35I'm selling my little paper for eight coins right now!"
  164. 8:39Everyone looked at him and said, "Oh!"
  165. 8:42"It's a deal!" said Ernesto, who was rich but wanted to be richer,
  166. 8:45and he snatched the little paper from his hands for eight coins.
  167. 8:50Ramón and Luis also sold their little papers for less than 10 coins,
  168. 8:53and while one went looking for cigarettes and the other to the cinema,
  169. 8:57the other neighbors saw that this was a new way of doing business
  170. 9:01even though they had never come up with an original idea.
  171. 9:05Some of them got on the chairs and tables.
  172. 9:08They started offering all they had,
  173. 9:10and even Father Ricardo came sad from the church and said,
  174. 9:14"Dear friends, when Moncho was selling his little papers,
  175. 9:17I, as a good Christian, bought a few because he's a fool.
  176. 9:22Now, Moncho is selling them for 7 coins, and he says he'll repay 20 coins.
  177. 9:27But he's a fool, and he wants to get people to the Moon.
  178. 9:30I now need coins to fix the belfry,
  179. 9:33and nobody wants to buy his little papers."
  180. 9:36"Sorry, Father Ricardo," everybody said, "we can't buy them.
  181. 9:38That guy's never going to the Moon."
  182. 9:40So the downcast priest left with Moncho's little papers.
  183. 9:45That was the first time in many years
  184. 9:48that nobody would help him fix the church.
  185. 9:52And so the first week went on.
  186. 9:55I looked at Nina, and she told me,
  187. 9:57"Now it seems to me
  188. 9:59that this is starting to sound like what the bald guy said on TV."
  189. 10:03I said, "Of course! In the real world
  190. 10:06The Little Papers Hall is called 'Stock Market,'
  191. 10:09and the little papers have two names.
  192. 10:12In some countries they are called 'bonds.'
  193. 10:14In other countries they are called 'debt certificate.'
  194. 10:17The 12 coins that Pepe will repay when he opens his bar,
  195. 10:21or the 20 coins Moncho says he'll repay when he gets people to the Moon,
  196. 10:25are called 'nominal value bond.'"
  197. 10:28And Nina looked at me. "Ha!"
  198. 10:30(Laughter)
  199. 10:31The little girl understood. She was only eight years old!
  200. 10:34So I told her what happened in the village during the second week.
  201. 10:38Pepe's house no longer looked like a house,
  202. 10:40it looked like something else.
  203. 10:42There was a wooden bar in the dining room.
  204. 10:44The bathroom was divided in two: one for ladies and one for gentlemen.
  205. 10:48The walls were half painted in navy blue,
  206. 10:51and Pepe was thrilled with his progress.
  207. 10:57Since Pepe hadn't been to the village yet,
  208. 11:00he didn't know that everyone's life had turned into a huge mess,
  209. 11:03with little papers coming and going with different prices and owners.
  210. 11:07Even the mayor, after talking to his assistant,
  211. 11:12decided to jump on board.
  212. 11:14One Tuesday morning, the mayor spoke from the balcony with a megaphone:
  213. 11:19"Neighbors, the square was destroyed during the little papers' frenzy.
  214. 11:23I need to raise funds
  215. 11:25to repair the damaged streetlights,
  216. 11:28to repair the water fountain and to buy me a motorcar.
  217. 11:32From now on, I'm selling 1,000 government little papers."
  218. 11:37"How many coins?" asked Sabino.
  219. 11:40"No coins!" said the mayor,
  220. 11:42"My little papers cost one horse.
  221. 11:44When the water fountain and the streetlights are fixed,
  222. 11:47and I have bought me a motorcar, I'll pay two horses for each little paper.
  223. 11:52The government little papers are now for sale.
  224. 11:55Buy them before it's too late!"
  225. 11:57The mayor's little papers sold out in record time.
  226. 12:00Everybody in the village gave their horses to the mayor,
  227. 12:04and from that day on, all the chores were done on foot.
  228. 12:09In the meanwhile, the trading of little papers was still rising,
  229. 12:13and there weren't enough pencils to write down who owned what.
  230. 12:18Some little papers were very sought out, like Pepe's,
  231. 12:21who worked day and night building his bar.
  232. 12:25But other little papers were unwanted,
  233. 12:27like Moncho's,
  234. 12:29because his device for getting people to the Moon, for the moment,
  235. 12:32was only a wagon and two horses.
  236. 12:35Nobody believed that it'd ever take off.
  237. 12:39Ernesto, the rich neighbor
  238. 12:40who had bought many little papers during the first week,
  239. 12:44now wanted to get rid of Moncho's little papers.
  240. 12:48Since he also had Pepe's little papers,
  241. 12:50he came up with a great idea that he called "Ernesto's packages."
  242. 12:56These were packages with 100 little papers of all colors.
  243. 12:58For example, there were 10 of Pepe's little papers on top,
  244. 13:0220 Horacio's ice cream parlor little papers in the middle
  245. 13:05and 70 little papers of Moncho's lunar project
  246. 13:09at the bottom, where nobody would see them.
  247. 13:12By the following Thursday,
  248. 13:14Ernesto's packages were a huge hit among the neighbors
  249. 13:17who madly sought out Pepe's little papers or the mayor's.
  250. 13:21But Friday, Quique found out about the scam and said,
  251. 13:24"Beware! Be careful, neighbors!
  252. 13:26Ernesto's packages sometimes have Pepe's little papers or the mayor's on top
  253. 13:31and that's fine,
  254. 13:32but at the bottom there's plenty of Moncho's papers,
  255. 13:35and that guy is never ever going to get anybody to the Moon.
  256. 13:38So before you buy his package, seek my advice.
  257. 13:41I charge two coins for each piece of advice."
  258. 13:44(Laughter)
  259. 13:45From that moment on,
  260. 13:47every buyer consulted Quique before buying any package from Ernesto.
  261. 13:52Ernesto and Quique, who had been friends for many years,
  262. 13:56never spoke to each other again.
  263. 13:58This is what went on the second week.
  264. 14:01At this point, Nina was almost an expert in this matter.
  265. 14:05I explained to her that in the real world,
  266. 14:07the mayor's little papers are called "public debt securities."
  267. 14:12I explained her that Ernesto's packages
  268. 14:14are "collateralized debt obligations."
  269. 14:17And places like Quique's house, the place where all the neighbors go
  270. 14:21to find out if they should trust Ernesto or not,
  271. 14:23are called "investment banks."
  272. 14:26Then I told Nina that when the third week started,
  273. 14:31some of the projects were almost completed,
  274. 14:33while others were just getting started.
  275. 14:35Pepe's just needed to nail the tethering post
  276. 14:38so the horses could rest outside the bar.
  277. 14:42Horacio had managed to blend milk and fruits for the ice cream,
  278. 14:45and just needed to bring ice blocks from town.
  279. 14:49But Carmen was still looking for a nice venue for her beauty salon
  280. 14:53although she had dozens of sharpened scissors.
  281. 14:56And what can we say about poor Moncho?
  282. 14:59His horses looked sadder and skinnier,
  283. 15:02no matter how much he brushed them.
  284. 15:04It didn't look like his device would fly anytime soon.
  285. 15:09The neighbors that had Moncho's and Carmen's little papers were nervous,
  286. 15:13and they couldn't sell them to anybody
  287. 15:15until Quique came up with a great idea.
  288. 15:18He said, "Hey!
  289. 15:20If you still have Moncho's little papers, don't worry.
  290. 15:23I can sell you 'Quique's Peace of Mind' for those little papers."
  291. 15:28"What's that?" asked Sabino,
  292. 15:31who had a lot of Moncho's little papers.
  293. 15:33"Very easy," said Quique.
  294. 15:34"If you have Moncho's little papers,
  295. 15:36you pay me two coins every night until the end of the month,
  296. 15:39and if Moncho can't get people to the Moon,
  297. 15:42I'll pay the 20 coins Moncho promised."
  298. 15:45"Even if he fails?" asked everyone.
  299. 15:47"Even if he fails!" said Quique.
  300. 15:49"Great idea!" said Sabino.
  301. 15:52"That way we'll feel much safer,
  302. 15:55and we can buy more little papers from the village fool."
  303. 15:57"That's why I call it Quique's Peace of Mind," said Quique.
  304. 16:00And many neighbors began to pay Quique
  305. 16:04two coins every night to insure Moncho's project.
  306. 16:09Caught up in the frenzy of these new ideas,
  307. 16:13no one in the village realized
  308. 16:15that the mayor had neither fixed the streetlights
  309. 16:18nor the water fountain.
  310. 16:19He had only kept one part of his promise:
  311. 16:24he had fled the village in a motorcar.
  312. 16:29That's all he'd done.
  313. 16:33And the only horses left in the village were Moncho's.
  314. 16:37The mayor had taken all the other horses.
  315. 16:39The assistant, the mayor's right hand, who knew all about the scam all along,
  316. 16:45decided that nobody should know that his boss had left.
  317. 16:48And his idea was magnificent:
  318. 16:50he brought a blackboard into the Little Papers Hall,
  319. 16:53and he started grading each project from one to ten.
  320. 16:57He gave an eight to Pepe's Bar,
  321. 16:59a five to Carmen's beauty salon,
  322. 17:01and a seven to Horacio's ice cream parlor.
  323. 17:03He gave a two to Moncho's Moon vehicle
  324. 17:06and, as if it was no big deal,
  325. 17:08he gave a 9.5 to the mayor's village square renewal project.
  326. 17:14"What are those numbers?" asked Sabino.
  327. 17:16The assistant said,
  328. 17:18"Those are the probabilities of completion of each project.
  329. 17:21It's for you. I'm only trying to help."
  330. 17:25Which was what went on the third week.
  331. 17:27At this point, I explained Nina that in the real world,
  332. 17:31Quique's idea of offering peace of mind
  333. 17:35is called a "credit default swap."
  334. 17:38The assistant's blackboard, in which he graded each project,
  335. 17:42in the real world is called a "credit reporting agency."
  336. 17:45They sometimes get it wrong unintentionally,
  337. 17:48and they sometimes get it wrong on purpose.
  338. 17:50Since we were already on the fourth week,
  339. 17:53Nina asked me if Pepe had finally managed to open his bar,
  340. 17:57and I told her the end of the story.
  341. 17:59The end of the story goes like this:
  342. 18:01When the fourth week came along, and the month went by,
  343. 18:04Pepe got up very early, and he peacefully walked to the village.
  344. 18:08From a distance, you could see his bar facade
  345. 18:11shining with the brand new luminous sign.
  346. 18:13The bar was called "The Moon," as Moncho had suggested.
  347. 18:18Now he only had to wait for the neighbors to arrive,
  348. 18:21dying for a drink.
  349. 18:23Pepe walked the 10 miles to the village,
  350. 18:26nailing signs to every tree beside the road:
  351. 18:29"The Moon Bar. Open every night."
  352. 18:32Each time he nailed a sign, he would move back
  353. 18:35and stand proud staring at the sign.
  354. 18:39However, when he got to the village square,
  355. 18:43he couldn't figure out what was going on.
  356. 18:45He thought he had made a wrong turn, and that he was in a different village.
  357. 18:49It looked like a war had broken out.
  358. 18:53The streetlights and the fountain had been destroyed.
  359. 18:56There were no horses in the streets.
  360. 18:58The neighbors were walking in circles talking to themselves.
  361. 19:01"What happened?" Pepe asked Horacio as soon as he saw him.
  362. 19:05"Oh! Pepe!" said Horacio crying,
  363. 19:07"Oh, Pepe. Everybody went crazy with the little papers,
  364. 19:10with mine, Carmen's, yours, everyone's.
  365. 19:14All of a sudden, there were more little papers than coins.
  366. 19:18The mayor ran away. Later on, there were no more coins.
  367. 19:21Then the horses disappeared.
  368. 19:23The guys selling Ernesto's packages went broke.
  369. 19:25Quique's Peace of Mind resellers couldn't pay anyone,
  370. 19:29so they ran away during the night.
  371. 19:30We are ruined, Pepe."
  372. 19:32"And your ice cream project?" asked Pepe,
  373. 19:34"What about Carmen's beauty salon?"
  374. 19:36"My project was a fiasco," said Horacio,
  375. 19:38"There are no horses to go to town for ice, so the ice cream melts.
  376. 19:42Carmen doesn't have any customers.
  377. 19:44Everybody is pulling their own hair out. No one needs a haircut."
  378. 19:47Pepe was speechless. He couldn't believe what he'd heard.
  379. 19:51Then Horacio said, "Dear God, I need a drink."
  380. 19:56And Luis said, "Me too. My throat is dry."
  381. 19:58Sabino asked, "Pepe, did you open the bar you were building or not?"
  382. 20:03And many others approached him, asking about the bar.
  383. 20:06Pepe then realized that without horses
  384. 20:09no one could ever get to his bar in the outskirts of the village.
  385. 20:13He also realized he could never repay the 10,000 coins he had borrowed.
  386. 20:18Then he saw, in the middle of the square,
  387. 20:21Moncho.
  388. 20:24Moncho's two skinny horses were the only animals left,
  389. 20:28and they were pulling three wagons with two wheels each, like a train.
  390. 20:32Many neighbors were getting on the wagons,
  391. 20:35while many others were waiting in a long line.
  392. 20:39"Moncho," said Pepe, "where are all these people going?"
  393. 20:43And Moncho said, "Where do you think?
  394. 20:45To your bar! To The Moon."
  395. 20:47Pepe saw a sign hanging from the broken water fountain that said,
  396. 20:50"Moncho gets you to The Moon.
  397. 20:52Departure: one coin. Return: Free."
  398. 20:56"But Moncho," said Pepe,
  399. 20:57"did you know that everyone would lose their horses?"
  400. 21:00"No," said Moncho, "I only knew one thing:
  401. 21:03I know anyone can ride a horse to the bar,
  402. 21:06but no one can ride it home if they're drunk."
  403. 21:09"Since I don't drink, I thought I could take folks to and from The Moon."
  404. 21:14Then Pepe hugged Moncho.
  405. 21:16He got into the first wagon and shouted,
  406. 21:19"Everybody to The Moon! Drinks are on the house tonight."
  407. 21:23And everybody jumped in the wagons and clapped.
  408. 21:25Even Nina was happy, and she clapped at the end of the story.
  409. 21:30Then I told my daughter that she should be careful
  410. 21:33because in the real world,
  411. 21:35the stories about Pepes who want to open bars,
  412. 21:39or the stories about Monchos who want to get people to the Moon,
  413. 21:42stories that no one understands,
  414. 21:44are almost always projects
  415. 21:46that don't have happy endings as in children's stories.
  416. 21:51Because people like Quique, the mayor, Ernesto or the assistant show up,
  417. 21:57and they always ruin everything.
  418. 22:00But when one of these projects does work,
  419. 22:03I told my daughter,
  420. 22:05when something magical happens and those projects turn out fine,
  421. 22:10they are called "dreams,"
  422. 22:11and they are usually wonderful.
  423. 22:14(Applause)
  424. 22:21Thank you very much.
  425. 22:23(Applause)

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