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0:00[Music]
0:10well hello again
0:12to memories i have someone you're going
0:16to meet now
0:18who was the bravest man that in my view
0:22that ever lived
0:24um you'll hear the whole story
0:28it's a very sad story but a very
0:30wonderful story
0:31a very brave story and something
0:35that had never happened before and has
0:37never happened again
0:39so i want to introduce you to a man
0:41called nando perado
0:45was one of two people who walked out of
0:48the andes
0:49after the football the the
0:52rugby team had taken off
0:56to fly to chile and
0:59it was a terrible crash and a great many
1:03people died in that crash
1:05but then somic survived but this
1:08survived for a very long time nando
1:10parado the man that you're going to look
1:13at
1:13now was one of two people who walked out
1:16of that
1:17and we're going to have memories
1:20regarding
1:21that terrible event nando
1:25you're one of my very very best friends
1:27and we've been
1:28friends for a very long time and a big
1:30thank you for agreeing to
1:32come on to to to this wee show of mine
1:36you're in uruguay right now and it
1:39wasn't too long ago
1:40since i went for the first time to your
1:42home and stayed with you and so forth
1:44and and first of all you're in good form
1:48and good health with all this trouble
1:50that exists today
1:51and the family are thank you jackie for
1:54inviting me to be part of this selected
1:57group of your friends
1:58to recreate some of the memories that we
2:01have
2:02had in the last almost 50 years 48 years
2:06and it has been for me
2:09and my family a great influence the
2:11stewards
2:12all over these decades and there are no
2:15words to thank you
2:17for what you have done for us i'm now in
2:19montevideo uruguay
2:21the pandemic has hit us but not as hard
2:25as
2:25in many places in the world so we are
2:27free to roam around and
2:29keep a safe distance but we are we are
2:32safe here
2:33in this small country but with a
2:36very big big uh friendship to everybody
2:40well let's start when we first met each
2:43other maybe that's the best way to begin
2:45here because
2:46i was in and one is iris
2:49for the grand prix of argentina uh i was
2:52driving for ken tyler with the ford
2:54engine
2:55and i was walking down the paddock
2:58and suddenly i hear this over the public
3:01address system will jackie stewart
3:04please come to race control now that's
3:07bad news for a racing driver because it
3:09seems that you've done something bad out
3:12there
3:12and an official's upset about what you
3:15did
3:15so i had never been to race control
3:18before and i go up the steps to race
3:20control go into a room and i said
3:22excuse me my name's jackie stewart
3:25you've asked me to come to race control
3:28yes yes there's somebody wants to meet
3:29you
3:31and we walked into a room nando i did
3:33with this
3:34man and there was almost a skeleton
3:39of a man your eye lids were
3:42not there your nose was hardly there
3:44your mouth was hardly in existence
3:47you you were this thick in in waist and
3:50size
3:51and i was of course immediately
3:54recognized who it was and was enormously
3:58impressed by just absolutely
4:02first of all meeting you and that was
4:05the beginning of a very deep friendship
4:07but nando let let us start with
4:10the rugby team and you left montevideo
4:14and and let's go to the point where
4:18it became a problem up in the air if you
4:20don't mind
4:23yes i was a member of a rugby team we're
4:25going to place
4:26to play a game against the chilean
4:29national champion at the end of the year
4:32in 1972
4:33and with my team my
4:36family went with other family members of
4:39the players
4:41and flying over the andes on a very
4:44for today's standards a very
4:46underpowered
4:47airplane it was a fokker f-27 turboprop
4:51full of passengers crew cargo it was
4:55heavy
4:56bad weather flying over the worst place
4:58you can fly on those conditions and
5:01the crew was not very the pilot and the
5:03compiler is very experienced
5:05and we hit some turbulence and
5:11a few seconds later
5:15i am lucky to say that i survived
5:17probably the only plane crash in history
5:19where the airplane
5:21crashes at full speed at cruising
5:23altitude against a mountain
5:25we crashed at 18 000 feet head on
5:28against the mountain
5:29um i'm here i'm here so i was very lucky
5:32but the plane broke in half
5:36half of the people died on the initial
5:38impact and then the plane slid down
5:41a mountain for about a quarter of a mile
5:44until it stopped
5:45abruptly like a formula one car hitting
5:48head on a wall
5:49against the ice on a glacier and
5:53that impact also killed more of the
5:56players and passengers on the airplane
5:59and i survived with
6:02injuries in my head i was in a coma for
6:06four days and of the 45 people on board
6:1029 survived the impact which is a
6:13miracle
6:15my mother and my sister were flying with
6:17me they died on impact
6:19and three of my best friends died on
6:21impact
6:23but that was the only
6:27that was a start of a fantastic survival
6:30story that
6:31lasted for 72 days on the worst place
6:34that a human being can
6:36survive how long were you on unconscious
6:38for nando
6:40i was unconscious for four days they
6:42thought i was dead i didn't have any
6:44vital signs
6:45and my head was the size of a basketball
6:47so they put me with the dead bodies
6:50and four days later somebody saw that my
6:52legs were moving and they they picked me
6:54up from that hip
6:56and i started to come back to my senses
6:59and by which time you obviously were
7:02told that
7:02both your mama and your sister had
7:05passed
7:07yes when i started to wake up you know
7:10sounds and images started dripping into
7:12my
7:13my brain uh
7:16i heard these beautiful voices from my
7:18friends and
7:20comforting me and saying nando are you
7:22okay can you breathe are you okay
7:24we crashed you know we crashed but we
7:26are going to take care of you
7:28and then i asked for my mother and my
7:31sister and my friends and they said no
7:34they didn't survive they're all dead and
7:36that's
7:37that's a moment that maybe
7:40i i can relate to you jack in many
7:44in many ways because when you were
7:46racing you
7:48i relate my saga to some of the
7:52way you were thinking because a lot of
7:54your friends died in those days
7:56formula one changed a lot so you have to
7:59uh separate the
8:02thoughts of suffering in order to
8:05survive
8:06and keep on going and i think that on a
8:08racing cars
8:10formula one has changed a lot in those
8:11days it was different
8:13you lost many many dear friends but you
8:15kept going
8:17i lost very many dear friends and my
8:19family
8:20and i had to keep going why i don't know
8:23i cannot explain it i probably you
8:25cannot either explain it
8:27it just did no well i had many
8:31friends of course who died and some
8:33extremely close to me
8:35and i i know i was with the open rent
8:39when he died
8:41um and you know it was a strange thing
8:44i think we shared something in this
8:48somehow or other within 45 minutes i was
8:50back in a racing car
8:52and i had never driven faster around
8:55monza in my life
8:57that then when i did that ken turtle
8:59insisted that i get into the car
9:0240 minutes after they had repaired the
9:04barriers that had been damaged
9:06and i had just left the open and he he
9:09said
9:10you know you've got to get in the car
9:11jackie you've got to go out
9:13and i went out my second lap i went
9:15faster than i've ever been around monza
9:17and put myself in second place on the
9:19grid
9:19with a car that really wasn't that
9:21competitive but i was in tears
9:25when i got into the cockpit and i was in
9:28tears
9:28when i came out the cockpit so
9:31i was destroyed by it and it still
9:34affects me today
9:36um because of what happened and it's the
9:38same applied
9:40you know to all the other drivers who
9:42died that i knew so well
9:44um but in your particular case it's it's
9:47a much bigger thing
9:48and you were in an aircraft crash and
9:51you had so many people
9:53around you who were not only dead but
9:55who were dying
9:58and you had to survive that nando and
10:00you and roberto canessa
10:02because roberto became a good friend as
10:04well because
10:05both of you came to switzerland and to
10:08geneva
10:09and to our little home at that time and
10:12stayed with us for quite a long time so
10:14we
10:15we built a relationship which might be
10:17unique
10:18it certainly is for me in the the
10:21closeness that we were able to come
10:23together with
10:24in the knowledge that all three of us
10:27had suffered
10:28death up close and personal and yet
10:31survived
10:32and in your particular case both of you
10:35became
10:36global heroes to the world
10:39i mean you went round the world you met
10:42all the sort of heads of state
10:44did you go to the vatican did you i mean
10:47what
10:48how did you manage all of that i might
10:50want to come back a little bit
10:52to just after the accident and when you
10:54chose to try and walk out but
10:57how did you handle
11:01the let's call it the notoriety that you
11:04had
11:04the the presence you had of having come
11:08literally from death
11:12to be survived
11:16i think uh that my father was a great
11:19help he's
11:20he was a very pragmatic man
11:23and uh when i came back to my normal
11:27life after
11:28suffering all that ordeal he just came
11:31to me and he said nando
11:33don't ever look back you're
11:36the second part of your only life starts
11:39now and you have to live a life you have
11:42to live your life
11:43and i kept going uh in the same way that
11:47i lived before i kept on doing my sports
11:51working enjoying life and
11:55never had because probably the
11:57pragmatism that my father
12:00inserted on me i never had like a
12:03survivor's guilt that people say you but
12:06you survived and your friends
12:08died yeah and my family died what can i
12:10do
12:12i mean the past is you cannot modify the
12:15past
12:16and the only thing that accounts in
12:20in my life is the present because the
12:22future is fog it's a dream it's a
12:25challenge it's
12:26whatever you can call it but the only
12:28thing that
12:29i have lived through all my life is live
12:32the present and you know a few
12:36months ago i got together
12:39some of my friends that were my friends
12:42since my first year in school
12:44and i asked them how do you think i was
12:48before
12:48and i am now and they said you're the
12:50same guy the same stupid guy that you
12:52were before you're still the same one
12:54so i haven't changed people changed
12:56towards me
12:58so yes but but i i take you back
13:02to the andes i mean and you're coming
13:04round from unconsciousness
13:06and within how many days from you
13:09becoming conscious was it
13:11that you and roberto had the courage to
13:15to to take off to walk across
13:18mountains with avalanches around you
13:21which affected you all
13:23and how do you just give me a little
13:26feeling at that time
13:28with death surrounding you and
13:31continuously happening at that time
13:34to to make that move to make a decision
13:37to take a challenge on to an area that
13:39you didn't even know
13:41which direction to go to in some respect
13:45[Music]
13:47i knew when i came back to my senses uh
13:49almost instantly that we were doomed
13:51there was no hope because we heard on a
13:54small transistor radio
13:55that the search had been called off
13:57after 10 days of searching
13:59there's no way we could find wreckage of
14:02the airplane
14:02or survivors the rescuers
14:07said you know the air force that were
14:08looking for us and the rescuers
14:10they abandoned the search so i knew then
14:12that i was dead
14:13at that moment i said i'm not dead i'm
14:15breathing
14:17i will try whatever i can to get out of
14:19the of here but we were
14:21stranded in the middle of the andes so
14:23it took us two months
14:25there two months to wait for the actual
14:28good day to go out because we had to
14:31wait
14:32for the good weather to arrive the
14:34summer
14:35we were dressed with summer clothes how
14:37could we attempt
14:38climbing 18 000 feet on summer clothes
14:41and people were still
14:43dying during that period
14:46yes 29 survived the
14:49initial crashes because we had the first
14:52impact the second impact
14:54sliding down the mountain 29 survived
14:56but at the end
14:57only 16 came out because people died of
15:00wounds
15:01gangrene you know infections
15:04and you're
15:08dying every minute there i lost almost
15:1290 pounds so you
15:15die and die a little bit every day but
15:17with roberto he said
15:18i told him roberto look at them look at
15:22they are dying and we are dying because
15:24we are the same we are exactly the same
15:25we have to get out of here
15:27come with me please come with me because
15:29i cannot do it alone
15:30we are going to die and i said we're
15:32going to die here
15:34definitely maybe we have a slight chance
15:37so come with me please
15:39and we waited two months to make the
15:41final decision
15:42two months two months two months in hell
15:45two months in a frozen hell i mean
15:48people think of hell with fire i can
15:51tell you it's with uh ice and snow
15:56locked inside a small piece of the
15:59fuselage
16:00about six meters by two and a half
16:03meters
16:0429 guys were living inside that for
16:08until some of them kept dying and kept
16:10dying and you ask yourselves
16:11when will it be my turn when will i die
16:15and uh i said it was not me today
16:20were any of the girls still alive any of
16:23the ladies still alive
16:25no there were only four girls on the
16:28whole
16:28plane and they didn't survive because
16:31only a
16:32mathematical issue there were very
16:35few girls and
16:37[Music]
16:38three of them died on impact and one
16:40died
16:41when the avalanche hit us because we
16:44also had an avalanche that killed
16:46nine of us so it was a very complicated
16:50situation indeed so
16:53you then decided to walk out after how
16:56many days
16:5861 days there after 61 days
17:02i said roberto roberto i'm going
17:04tomorrow
17:06i'm going i'm leaving because
17:09uh there's no way we will live
17:13here for more than three or three more
17:15weeks
17:17three more weeks will be the limit why
17:19because we're surviving
17:20on the worst way a human being can
17:22survive
17:24over there it's like being in mars venus
17:26or the moon
17:28there's nothing absolutely nothing
17:31and we have to survive
17:35on the dead bodies of our friends which
17:38is
17:38something people cannot
17:42rely to but being the most important
17:46experts on this subject in the world i
17:49can tell you that every single person
17:52in the world who had been there with us
17:55would have achieved the same thought and
17:57the same
17:58acts at the same time and
18:02i knew i told roberto look we don't have
18:04any more bodies
18:06what will happen here i won't be here
18:09i'll be climbing these mountains or
18:10dying
18:11on a crevasse but i won't die here
18:14looking at your eyes
18:15mine said you're right let's go tomorrow
18:18and that's what we did so so you
18:21had already lost so much weight nando
18:23and obviously
18:24roberto must have lost a lot of weight
18:26as well so you didn't have
18:28what your normal strengths would be as
18:30young strong
18:31rugby players but the fact that you were
18:34strong
18:34rugby players probably had more
18:37determination
18:38and and i don't know just playing guts
18:41but
18:43how long was the walk try and tell these
18:46nice people who are seeing this
18:47now who you know many of them much
18:50younger
18:51and don't know this whole story i mean
18:54from from leaving the the crashed
18:56aircraft
18:58how long did it take and well i can tell
19:01you that
19:02we had a map and we thought that we were
19:05close to a town in because of the time
19:08the plane had flown and the altitude and
19:10the headwind we made a lot of
19:11calculations
19:13but one of the items from this equation
19:14was wrong direction of the flight
19:16instead of flying west the plane had
19:18long south so instead of being we
19:21thought we were about eight
19:22miles from a town we were almost 100
19:26miles
19:26from a town 100 times and i thought i
19:29would reach that town in
19:31one day one day and a half when we left
19:34the fuselage
19:36so the day we left with roberto
19:39uh we climbed and climbed we had we were
19:41on a bowl we had to climb
19:43all the way up to 18 000 feet without
19:46gloves
19:47without crampons without anything and on
19:50one of the
19:51most incredible mountain traverse
19:53histories
19:55in the history of mountaineering i don't
19:57say that all the climbers say that
20:00we achieve something that's not human we
20:02cross the whole
20:03and this mountains in ten and a half
20:06days
20:07in ten and a half days
20:10with very little with very little
20:12clothes on and certainly not
20:15mounted shoes on no i had my rugby boots
20:18on
20:19and i had two jeans i had a
20:23a t-shirt two shirts a sweater and a
20:26very light jacket
20:27that's my mountaineering
20:30climbing gear and a small piece of
20:33aluminium aluminum that i used as a
20:36you know to help me walk on the ice and
20:39on the snow
20:40i had lost up to then about i would say
20:4460 65 pounds we were rugby players i was
20:48a second row player
20:50but as you say this is mind over matter
20:53there's no way when i look back that
20:57i could have achieved that there's no
20:59way
21:00the only thing that made me go forward
21:03when i was dying because i kept dying
21:06every minute on every climb on every
21:08step
21:10is was going back to embrace my father
21:14and i said he is back home having lost
21:18his family and i'm alive he was my
21:21lighthouse
21:22and i kept thinking about him kept
21:24thinking about him and
21:26that gave me a lot of strength and then
21:29roberto's book which i
21:31just mentioned i have read for the first
21:33time because he gave it to me
21:34that night i was with you when you had
21:36that nice dinner party and you came up
21:38to give it you know to me and give them
21:40a big hug because
21:42just the two of you so many years ago
21:44meeting for that first time and
21:46and his words in it i mean
21:51i've i had tears of
21:55what was going on at that time i mean
22:00the number of times you both must have
22:02been so weak
22:04with the storms that come into a
22:05mountain of that altitude
22:08and the avalanches that were surrounding
22:10you and
22:11somehow or other you both kept alive in
22:14such
22:14poor conditions and yet
22:17it was almost a miracle you're with us
22:21today
22:24it's a miracle we made a fantastic team
22:27um i wouldn't have made it without him
22:31and he wouldn't have made it without me
22:34i i was like uh
22:38trained trying to get as fast as i could
22:41as far away as i could
22:44very very fast and he was slow and he
22:46was like a clutch
22:48keep taking care of me and not letting
22:51me
22:52burn myself out alone i would have
22:55killed myself
22:56i would have killed myself because i
22:58never stopped
22:59and he was a little bit more tired
23:03and that was very good because we had to
23:05stop we could walk
23:06for 10 15 hours 10 15 hours non-stop
23:10and then stop and rest for one hour and
23:12two hours and then we kept going day and
23:14night
23:14day and night and we were blessed with
23:17the
23:17good weather because had we had a
23:20blizzard or a storm i wouldn't be here
23:23but um there are no words that i can
23:27have in my vocabulary to express
23:31how difficult that was
23:35i looked back and i said i i think it
23:36was not me it was not me
23:39and then suddenly after all those days
23:43of walking you saw green grass
23:48yeah we we came back to after seven and
23:51a half days
23:52the the snow ended
23:56so we walked about two more days
23:59on rocks and shale rocks and then
24:01suddenly in between the rocks some grass
24:03and flowers started to appear
24:05and that was like a fresh uh
24:10strong feeling that we were getting
24:12closer to
24:13some life
24:16in a very remote area very very remote
24:19area i mean
24:21no human beings have ever been there
24:24have ever been there i think we were the
24:26first to see those flowers and
24:28uh in in that altitude in those
24:31mountains we
24:32never reached the tree level ever but
24:35as soon as we saw something green we say
24:37okay
24:38we are getting closer to life we are
24:40getting closer to life
24:41and that gave us strength and we kept
24:44going we kept going
24:46does grass does grass taste good
24:50what does grass taste good
24:53good no i mean flowers roberto ate
24:57one of the flowers roberto one of them
24:59have flowers and
25:01they don't taste very very good and
25:04finally
25:05you you finally you you you saw a human
25:10yes after 10 10 days
25:14at the end of the 10th day
25:18we were almost at the end of our
25:22strength mental strength because
25:25physical strength we didn't have anymore
25:27we didn't have any more physicals
25:30roberto was sitting on a
25:34stone on a rock looking to the north and
25:37i was looking to the west
25:39the sun was setting on the horizon with
25:42the mountains
25:44and then roberto shouts i see a man a
25:47man
25:47a man on a horse and i look and i turn
25:50around
25:51and about 400 yards away on a
25:55across a river we saw a man on a horse
25:58silently going back high on a horse so
26:01you can imagine that we started shouting
26:03and shouting and shouting and then the
26:05horseman stops the horse
26:08and starts to look at us and
26:11that was the first link
26:14the first link that we had with
26:16salvation
26:17is another horse who was a best friend
26:21so i i ran towards the
26:24river it was a river that was about 25
26:28yards
26:28wide and i started shouting this man but
26:32he couldn't
26:33understand because of the sound of the
26:35water
26:37you would not have a strong voice either
26:40yeah
26:41he he he didn't have a clue who we were
26:44he didn't
26:45he later told us that he couldn't
26:47imagine
26:48what two guys were doing so high up in
26:50the mountains alone
26:51on foot and we communicated
26:55this was a very uh a guy with a lot of
26:58common sense
26:59he threw a stone with a piece of paper
27:02around it with a pencil and a string so
27:06i wrote a message there
27:08i come from a plane that crashes in the
27:10mountains i am uruguayan
27:12i have 14 french wounded on the airplane
27:14i need help
27:15where are we please help and i threw it
27:18back to him and
27:20he reads that gets some cheese and bread
27:23shows it across the river and says okay
27:26now wait
27:27wait there and he went to look for some
27:30help
27:30who was 10 hours away so he come back
27:34he comes back the next day so we had to
27:37wait all that night with roberto there
27:39wondering if he was going to come back
27:42we assumed
27:43that he was going to come back
27:47so i and that was jackie that was
27:50december 21
27:541972 december 21 1972
27:58on january 14th the formula one grand
28:01prix of argentina was going to take
28:03place
28:05every year for every year i had been to
28:08the former one grand prix in argentina
28:10every year
28:11from all the previous years even with my
28:15father and my
28:16friends so when i came back to uruguay
28:19uh five days later i said why shouldn't
28:22i go to a formula one grand prix
28:26that's what i love that's what i like i
28:28mean i'm alive
28:29and that's why i went to argentina with
28:32my friends
28:34and uh i had i i want to be very honest
28:38i had two formula one posters in my room
28:42tim clark and jackie stewart you know
28:45she had good tips
28:50and when i was there i knew some of the
28:53organizers and i said
28:54is there any way i can meet jackie i
28:58don't know he's very
28:59you know very very important man driver
29:03he's
29:03racing very concentrated i don't know
29:07i don't know how they embraced that and
29:11i think that was a first
29:15part of this beautiful friendship story
29:18because you invited me to the
29:22peace and you showed me the cars and
29:24everything
29:25and in one of your worst moments
29:28the next day you say if you ever come to
29:30europe come and visit us
29:34and you didn't know whom you were
29:35talking so
29:38when i went to europe i rang you up
29:42and you said why don't you come and stay
29:43with us here for a few days
29:45and that's what i mean and here we are
29:48and
29:49a few days went to a few more days to a
29:51few more days
29:52and it was fantastic i mean and
29:55and you behaved so beautifully both of
29:58you
29:59and paul and mark were very young i mean
30:02here's paul now what is it 53 years of
30:04age
30:05and and and to this day yuri's greatest
30:08hero
30:09but not just that the fact that you both
30:12were just such good friends to have
30:15because
30:16occasionally you went off actually to to
30:18do appearances or engagements and came
30:21back and stayed and so forth and you
30:23were there for quite a long time
30:25so it was a great relationship and of
30:28course your motor racing
30:30then became quite an important part of
30:32your life because
30:33you were a good driver you went to jim
30:36russell driving school i remember that
30:38just because you wanted to drive a
30:40single seater at schneiderton
30:42um and of course later on you even went
30:46and raced at the nurburgring which is
30:48as difficult to race track at that time
30:51as there was
30:52in the world 14.7 miles around 187
30:56corners per lap and you've been there
30:59you've done that
31:00now some people might say that you're
31:03just a risk taker
31:05having coming out of a terrible accident
31:08like you came out of and now you were
31:10driving racing cars not
31:12very sensible
31:15well yeah a lot of people ask me that
31:18and they say
31:19you thought you were immortal you could
31:21do anything and say no no no
31:23by all means don't don't
31:26think i'm i i'm a dirty or anything i
31:29i'm
31:30i i have fears i'm very afraid sometimes
31:33i'm very good
31:34hiding my fears but i'm afraid and
31:38racing cars my father was the founder he
31:41he
31:41created the uruguayan racing drivers
31:44club
31:45you know that's a fantastic romantic
31:48name you know
31:48in the 1940s so i was
31:52born into the racing scene and the smell
31:54and the sound
31:56and i loved racing but i've been there
31:58doing it i was
31:59i was afraid all the racing drivers were
32:02my heroes and
32:03how do they do that you know and then i
32:06almost died
32:07and i came back and i said what was the
32:09thing that i
32:11loved more and i didn't do
32:15before and now that i have a second
32:18birth i should do and i say i should
32:21start racing
32:22and i started racing and i loved it
32:27and uh i went to a dream russell's
32:29racing driver school i took instructors
32:31here
32:32jackie taught me a lot and i became
32:35i was very very good very good but i was
32:38not exceptional
32:39you know i was pretty good i was going
32:42to
32:43join the team i was very good
32:47but uh i all also raised for the alfa
32:50romeo factory team the
32:52on the european touring car championship
32:55and there was another driver in my team
32:57who was always
32:59a tenth or faster than i was on the same
33:02day on the same car
33:03and everything and i was and i couldn't
33:06do it
33:07so i was very good but i was not
33:10you know etc and you've been in the
33:13desert as well driving
33:15yeah i i did some i crossed the
33:19sahara desert and with
33:23an event created by a
33:27car manufacturer i spent almost
33:3020 days crossing the sahara desert and
33:34i raised motorcycles i won the south
33:36american motocross championship in 1975
33:40then i started racing cars and i raced
33:44uh boats so everything that had an
33:47engine
33:48you know how it feels like no jackie
33:51i've forgotten
33:54and what about i remember we went to
33:56monte carlo together to the grand prix
33:59yeah i i i couldn't believe that
34:02i've been there with you a few times and
34:07it's like memories of a fantastic
34:10movie of my life you know i
34:14i i leave those things
34:18in honor of all the people and all my
34:20friends who would
34:21love to leave those things is there
34:24anything
34:26anything better for a formula one
34:29fan or to go to monte carlo staying at
34:32the hotel paris
34:34sharing the room with jackie stewart i
34:36mean
34:37is there anything better and
34:40my wife veronique we have enjoyed those
34:44things
34:45more than anything in our lives and
34:47those are memories
34:48life is to create memories because
34:51that's the only thing we take away
34:54well we both have memories and we're
34:56both
34:57lucky to be here and so many of your
35:00friends are no longer with us and so
35:02many of my friends are sadly no longer
35:05with us for the same reasons and where
35:07they are in the same place perhaps i
35:09hope
35:10but nando you've met so many people
35:13around the world
35:15because of a life because of the film
35:18but more i think from the book but the
35:22media
35:22attention that you got because of being
35:26surviving
35:27in such circumstances for so long with
35:30so many people dying
35:32friends mothers sisters
35:35deep friends dying that
35:39had to have some effect on hernandez
35:42surely i mean you you man
35:44you're a man of great strength and that
35:47still stands today because of your
35:49business life and so forth but
35:52you met all of these heads of state and
35:55all of these kings and queens and the
35:57princess grace and prince albert and
35:59prince
36:01of monaco when we were there for the
36:03grand prix and they were
36:05more pleased to see you than you were to
36:08see them
36:08i mean they told me that
36:12so you must have made a lot of very good
36:15friendships
36:16along the world around the world for all
36:19those years
36:23yes i i am blessed with opportunities
36:27with having met very powerful people
36:30interesting people and
36:34i'm not a man of
36:38many many words and my wife always says
36:41how can you
36:42sometimes give a conference if your iq
36:45is so low
36:46oh that's a that's a way of speaking
36:51but i i have to sincerely say
36:54that if i look back in my life
36:59in friendship and in feelings and what
37:02have
37:03happened in my life looking at you
37:06looking at the stuart family at
37:08helen the way you received me and gave
37:10me
37:12a house and they opened a door
37:15to a life that i wouldn't have achieved
37:18if i hadn't met you why do i say that
37:22because in all my business life
37:25in all my racing life not my racing
37:28team's life
37:30i have copied you i have adapted things
37:33that you did
37:34looking for excellence because if you do
37:38excellence you get things back in a
37:41better way
37:43i remember you in your formula one team
37:47putting the tracks on jacks so that
37:51entires would have all the good year
37:53you know logos on the same size on the
37:55same place
37:57and i did that on my racing teams
38:00you know sponsorship public relations
38:05uh business-wise a handshake
38:09stronger than anything even any contract
38:13you can do a thick contract like this i
38:15give a handshake
38:17nothing can break that and i have
38:19learned that from you jackie
38:21i have learned that from you and without
38:24knowing i have adapted your way of life
38:29i'm sorry if i did that i i
38:33i i'm sorry but i have to say
38:37well nando it's been a fantastic
38:42friendship you are one of
38:46for me the greatest man that's ever
38:47lived because you've
38:49died almost and lived with so much
38:53strength energy and commitment
38:56and you've become now a very successful
39:00businessman because you've survived
39:02something that you
39:04would go into business with the same
39:06commitment the same drive
39:08the same enthusiasm and the same fear
39:12of failing and in that case we were very
39:15similar
39:16in in many ways uh so nando
39:19your veronique and your children and
39:22here have i
39:23only in recent years had the chance to
39:25come to uruguay to see you and
39:28when you brought me to your various
39:30friends during that visit
39:31i was so impressed the love
39:35and the respect that they have for you
39:39after all those years since that
39:42terrible accident occurred
39:43is still magnetic it's fantastic
39:47so nando i thank you and helen
39:51too because you know helen's not well
39:53and she's got dementia
39:56she knows that i'm speaking with you
39:57today and she wants to send a very big
39:59kiss to you
40:01and she loves you as deeply as i do
40:04uh and you know when i see you with
40:07veronique with the
40:08with your family i see almost a mirror
40:12of what it was for me there was early
40:15years of you children growing up
40:17and when i saw all of these people with
40:19the huge respect for you
40:21when you took me around and next to many
40:23of your friends
40:24it just gave me a big
40:28lump in my throat you're one of the
40:32greatest
40:32public speakers that exists and you
40:34probably only do five or six
40:37speeches a year around the world so
40:40the respect that they have for you
40:41hernando i think
40:44cannot be more than i have for you and i
40:47i can't tell you how much i appreciate
40:49the fact that you've
40:50agreed to talk me through some the
40:54terrible times
40:55of your life but here we are both of us
40:57together
40:58and still feeling as strongly as we were
41:02and the very day that i met you for the
41:03first time was the day my father
41:06died and that
41:09just was a terrible coincidence if you
41:12like
41:13but i'll never forget it for for that
41:16combination of seeing you in the state
41:19that you were nando
41:21and then having the bad news come so
41:25we've come to the end of our little talk
41:28together
41:30i thank you enormously for agreeing to
41:33do it
41:34i can't wait to catch up with you again
41:37and if there is a grand prix
41:40down that way at all you're going to
41:42have another
41:43person to accommodate that lovely room
41:45that i slept in the last time nando
41:49what can i say a very big thank you
41:53thank you jackie a big big big warm
41:56embrace
41:57to you and helen and you know paul and
42:00mark
42:01their families when i think
42:04of a family that is not my
42:08blood family but is my family i think of
42:12the stewards
42:13and i remember that day when i put my
42:16first step on
42:17clayton house in switzerland
42:20a new life started and it's thanks to
42:23the
42:23kindness and humility and the way you
42:27received us and gave us always every
42:30time we see you
42:31show friendship and that's one of the
42:33most incredible things that
42:35i i have and i i always have
42:39in my wrist here a watch that says
42:42to nando with love from the stewart
42:45family
42:48that's very nice it's engraved and it
42:50says
42:52with love from the stuart family what
42:54can i say jackie
42:56thank you very much one more thing that
42:59i'll say
43:00that people watching this would will
43:03have to have emotion for
43:05when you left the last time from clayton
43:07house not
43:08the last time that worked together but
43:10when you left clayton house with roberto
43:12and
43:13moved on you did something
43:16that we still talk about you took
43:20the chain from your neck
43:23that was your mother's and give it to
43:25paul
43:26[Music]
43:29that's special
43:32yeah that uh i got a
43:36bond with your boys they i looked at
43:39them when i was there and i i
43:41we bonded a lot together and that change
43:44was my mother's chain it was my the the
43:47change that my mother was wearing when
43:49when she died on the plane crash and i
43:52said what can i
43:53give this family and paul something that
43:56is uh something that means a lot to me
43:59so i took it off and
44:00all this is for you it's still good at
44:03rooney's neck
44:04yeah so it's uh i mean how can you
44:08break those bonds they go beyond time
44:11and face and distance
44:14i know i can count on you you know you
44:17can shout and i'll be there
44:19but nando
44:23thank you so much for agreeing to do
44:25this and
44:26uh for helen especially because of the
44:29dis
44:30dementia thing it's you know
44:33one and three people who live today
44:37will die from dementia there are more
44:40people die from dementia than any other
44:42illness
44:43but they live a very long time dementia
44:46patients so it takes a huge amount
44:48out of a family's life and helen's going
44:52through that but
44:53fortunately i can afford it because we
44:55have nurses to look after helen
44:57and that's why she's not sitting beside
44:59me here today
45:00so nando it's all part of life
45:05and we've shared today an enormous part
45:08of your life
45:09and i thank you very much thank you
45:12jackie and
45:14until we see again
45:19[Music]
45:23you

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