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0:00You baited me to step out of it. Anyway, let's do this!
0:04You have an image of a evil person.
0:07Litwin said "The housekeeper's challenge"
0:09No.
0:09He'd just get kicked by someone.
0:11After stream with Morgenstern I lost my life goal.
0:14I really don't give a s**t about his girlfriend's feelings.
0:16Is there something more important than hype?
0:18That's was real love. I would watch her, to see where she would go.
0:20You didn't fall head over heels for Bruletova?
0:22I wanted to gift her a Bentley.
0:24Colonel Boosterenko.
0:25General Cuckoldini.
0:26Let’s just play, winner gets Dilara.
0:27I was trying to punch...
0:28I showed her what impulse was.
0:30Vile act.
0:31Show that money does talk, get some hype.
0:33Become more successful.
0:33The would take me to the police station.
0:34Let there be the light, oh no no my ass is too tight
0:3620 million.
0:37I just threw it out the window. Into the crowd.
0:39Buy a Bugatti.
0:40And that's how it all started.
0:40Gambler always ends up...
1:05Hello
1:06What's up
1:07The first burning question to you then
1:08when we were flying out here
1:11you went on a stream and said you didn't want to give the interview anymore.
1:14Why?
1:15Well, I said I only wanted to reschedule our interview.
1:18It was because of my laziness, my weakness and my reluctance
1:23to step out of my comfort zone
1:24So... You went here, we met
1:28You baited me to step out of it.
1:31Anyway, let's do this! Let's go, b***h.
1:33Let's go.
1:36Alright, let's start by breaking down your success first.
1:40Let's talk about shaving heads first.
1:42This went viral and a lot of people talked about it.
1:46Even though the idea isn't new,
1:49you had done this before with Amiran.
1:52Look, I've had this thing with shaving heads since 2018-2019
1:57The idea was that my friends and I would get together, drink with the ladies and when it came to challenges
2:05We needed some kind of proof of intentions.
2:08So we’d ask: ‘Are you betting your ass on this one?’
2:11And if the person bet his ass and didn't complete the challenge
2:14then he’d get his head shaved.
2:16I guess it's a lot easier to lose your hair than your ass
2:19No, no. No ass was penetrated.
2:21Oh, thank God.
2:22Of course not!
2:23Why was this idea revived in the first place?
2:26There was a time when I won some money, say, in a casino.
2:30I noticed my viewer count was a little down.
2:35So I wanted to boost it a little.
2:39My viewers were suggesting in the chat that we should probably join some Twitch streamer
2:43And do something together
2:44I just realized that it would only cost me a little to make him shave his head bald.
2:49It would take him a couple of months to grow his hair back
2:53And his audience would constantly ask him why he’s bald, so they’d mention me every time.
2:57That is some kind of hype.
2:58How do you personally view this action, is it just a joke to them or do they take it seriously?
3:02Or is there a person who's takes money from you, for example?
3:06Let's say, Hesus takes your money
3:07Doesn’t that seem cringe?
3:09Why would it be?
3:10He is selling his hair for money.
3:12This creates hype and content for the streamer
3:14there is a lot of discussion going on as to why are you bald?
3:16I don't think it humiliates them in any way, moreover, I paid decent money for that.
3:19You know what I find funny?
3:21The fact that you paid Restorator to shave his head
3:24Сonsidering he had been bald for half of his career
3:29That’s hilarious.
3:31No, I also paid him 30,000 rubles to drink certain whiskey.
3:36In a nutshell, he drank it and almost immediately burped.
3:39Our agreement was that he had to drink it without burping.
3:41After that we didn’t get along too well.
3:44But there were also people who refused to shave, right?
3:47Who exactly?
3:48Bratishkin, for example.
3:49Oh yeah! I think I offered him 20 million rubles
3:53to shave his head. I guess you could say he brushed me off politely.
3:57How did you take it?
3:59No offence whatsoever.
4:00I understand that we are very different people.
4:04I drink a lot, gamble, hang out with girls,
4:09swear, show my penis.
4:11He, on the other hand, is a quiet, down-to-earth guy who plays video games.
4:14Moreover, I think he did this just
4:18to show he is somewhat honorable,
4:21not a sellout. He is a great guy.
4:25Does his refusal make you respect him more?
4:30Even for 20 million, which is a lot of money, he refused?
4:34Or do you think he is an idiot
4:36for turning down such insane amount of money?
4:39If I get to choose between the two, I'd choose respect.
4:42He seemed somewhat arrogant to me.
4:46How can you not shave your head for 20 million rubles?
4:48Anyway, that's his choice.
4:50My job is to make the offer, his is to refuse.
4:52Who did you want to shave the most?
4:56If we streamed it
4:58and I'd personally shave Drake's head...
5:03I'd be f**king shocked.
5:06How much do you think it would set you back?
5:08Either insane amount of money or...
5:13just for respect.
5:14An insane amount would be
5:18between 8 and 15 million dollars
5:21between 700 000 and 1 500 000 rubles
5:24I think he could do it for that.
5:25He would definitely refuse for 2 million.
5:27It cost me 1 million dollars just to have him follow me on instagram
5:29So...
5:31What's there to talk about?
5:33A lot of money.
5:34By the way, about Drake,
5:36I’d also like to mention that when I stream
5:39he sometimes joins and comments on my streams
5:43from his official account.
5:47We even talk and joke around.
5:48He promised to visit me on his jet one day
5:52and we would hang out together
5:54You were ready to hang out?
5:56Aren't you afraid?
5:57The only thing I'm afraid of is that I don't speak English.
6:00It might be a little weird to communicate with him,
6:04- Through an interpreter? - That's the only way.
6:06Personally, I wouldn't even be able to show him around,
6:10go to a club, or even sit at the table
6:13because using google translate feels super cringe.
6:17Let's move on to breaking down your successful year.
6:21And the legendary challenges, whose ideas, frankly speaking, belong to Litvin,
6:27Am I right?
6:28Yes, you are.
6:28Why did you decide to steal his ideas and increase the reward
6:32instead of coming up with something new?
6:35In February, Mikhail Litvin launched Challenges for money for viewers.
6:38These included greetings from soccer stars, a subscription from MrBeast
6:41and lifting a can of Lit Energy to Everest.
6:43Mellstroy stole the idea and increased the reward amount 10-15 times.
6:47Well, I had a goal at the time, for the following half a year I wanted to go viral
6:52generate some hype, achieve growth, you name it.
6:54I wanted the hype to be at least somewhat positive.
6:56Litvin announced his challenge.
6:59The first idea that comes to my mind
7:01why not keep the challenge the same
7:04Considering I have a lot more money than he does?
7:06I had.
7:07And simply increase 15 times the payout for the same action.
7:13He could have gained even more hype
7:17if he had outdone my prices.
7:19But in our interview he said that..
7:23..That he is poor?
7:23He said that you offered an insane amount
7:27and that he didn't even have enough to cover the reward
7:31for his own challenges at the time.
7:33Do you believe everything people say?
7:35I don't.
7:36I think he had enough money.
7:37It seemed like in his last interview whenever
7:40he was asked about money he got very evasive.
7:43He doesn't want to talk about it.
7:46Have you noticed that?
7:47Like many people.
7:48Like many people.
7:49I’m more open about that,
7:50OK
7:51Anyway, he has such a high view count,
7:54followers, different businesses.
7:56He said he was only able to pay off his 10 million debt back 3-4 months later.
8:02OK
8:03I don't have any confirmation or proof of that personally but I don't believe it.
8:06When you were beating his price, at that very moment,
8:10did you have any doubts that his might be a foul play?
8:13How exactly?
8:15Well, that you're stealing an idea.
8:18Well, I paid 15 times as much for that.
8:21I consider this to be healthy competition.
8:24I never claimed that this was my idea,
8:27that I'm the f**king genius.
8:29No, it was all his idea
8:30I copied everything, just increased the reward 15x.
8:35I saw it as the greatest prank ever.
8:39It's just that.
8:41Has anyone done this before?
8:43I didn't just increase it two times but 15!
8:45You do understand
8:46when he offered 10 million for MrBeast's follow on instagram
8:50I had to offer 150 million? This is tough.
8:53Do you really think that MrBeast’s follow is actually worth 150 million?
8:57No.
8:59But the hype is worth it.
9:01Is it really?
9:01Absolutely.
9:02Did you realize the fact that when you beat his price
9:06everyone would accept your challenges instead of his?
9:09Most likely, yes.
9:11I'm just showing that money talks louder than everyone tends to think.
9:15So you just wanted to show that money talks?
9:17Show that money does talk,
9:19get some hype, become more successful. All of that.
9:21By the way, do you like Litvin’s content?
9:24Do you respect him as a content creator?
9:27Not that I respect him, but I think he's cool.
9:29There are things I would never have the guts to do, like approaching strangers and pissing them off,
9:37knowing they could punch me right in the face.
9:40I've done something like that before, maybe even worse
9:42but at least it was always in my own place.
9:44I've never crossed the lines by bothering random people outside.
9:49I can bother people who are on my stream or at least at my place.
9:54Because it's my territory
9:56and I can behave like this at my place.
9:58I wouldn't be able to do that outside.
10:01For real.
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10:08Everyone likes to brag about branded stuff.
10:11Bloggers, rappers, streamers. even Zubarev showed off his closet.
10:15This is TREMPEL!
10:16I'm not a clothes person, but I'm trying to keep an eye on my style.
10:20I have a lot of things, so my stylist and I even made a catalog of them,
10:24first of all, don't get mixed up in them,
10:26and secondly, to buy what you need.
10:29Now I'm gonna show you the looks that I'm sure I'm gonna wear to the VPISKA.
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10:44And they took 10 days to arrive.
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10:52That's why many, including the manufacturers who left,
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11:00There's a huge selection of branded sneakers on usmall.
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11:53Litvin said in his interview
11:55that if he were gambling
11:57you could have ended up being his housekeeper.
11:59And it's worth it for me to descend into the same underworld for today,
12:04Mellstroy can be my housekeeper.
12:08How did you react to that?
12:10Clearly he has been offended because,
12:12for example, if we go back to that challenge,
12:15Mr. Beast followed me first,
12:17I got all the hype from Mr. Beast’s follow.
12:21Honestly.
12:22If I had given the interview before him,
12:25and said the exact same thing about him,
12:30he’d have been right here downstairs, posting stories,
12:32crying and shouting:
12:33‘Come out! I will punch you in the face, answer for your words!’
12:36So he’s allowing this kind of shit-talking
12:38even though I don't remember
12:41saying anything like that about him.
12:43Would you go downstairs to meet him?
12:45No.
12:46I mean, we could meet theoretically
12:48but not for a fight.
12:50No way.
12:51Let's say, hypothetically, it is your first meeting.
12:54If we randomly see each other somewhere?
12:55Yes, let's say it was random.
12:57What would your conversation be like?
12:59Let's visualize it. We meet,
13:03he asks if I said some stuff. I respond: ‘Yes I did‘.
13:06One thing leads to another and then it's a conflict
13:08He says: ’What the f**k is wrong with you?’
13:10I say: ’You...’
13:12he doesn't like my response
13:13and ends up punching me in the face
13:15possibly breaking my nose or jaw.
13:17How does this end?
13:20He’d end up paying the price with his health in the same way
13:24If not worse
13:25Would you ask your bodyguards to handle this?
13:27What do bodyguards have to do with it?
13:28No, these people are responsible for my safety in that very moment.
13:33But generally speaking,
13:35just for the sake of lulz we could make a challenge for Litvin's head.
13:41Dang it, wait.
13:42I'm just kidding.
13:43I mean if he punched me for no f**king reason,
13:47either me or someone else would beat him up later and that's it.
13:55First of all, it's hard to imagine both of you would start talking aggressively like that.
14:00Actually I would talk like a normal human being.
14:03Secondly, I don't think Litvin would punch you if your only words were,
14:07‘What the f**k is wrong with you?’
14:11I would assume he was already nervous before that,
14:14and his emotions peaked when we started talking.
14:16It's just that I know him from different sides, I guess.
14:18Well, it's because you were able to get along well.
14:20We couldn't do that at all.
14:24All we do is talk shit about each other in your interviews.
14:28Yeah.
14:29Talk shit about each other in my interviews.
14:40We're not gonna pretend that we have just come here to your place
14:43because we've been recording the interview for 12 hours. It was dark and now it's bright.
14:48It was the middle of the night, now it's daytime.
14:50Yep.
14:50That's tough.
14:51Anyway, let's take a look at your place.
14:55There is a mini bar with some cups,
14:56tableware, utensils, forks, spoons, knives.
14:59The beer has been here ever since we moved in.
15:01This is my working desk,
15:02where I stream.
15:04I’ve been streaming all this time.
15:06Got myself this chair so that my back doesn't kill me.
15:09And here’s the camera.
15:11Is your camera really that expensive?
15:12Yes, it is delicious indeed.
15:13It costs around half a million, am I right?
15:15The camera itself, yes, it costs around 500 thousand rubles.
15:17Sunflower seeds.
15:18The essential attribute.
15:19Just the sunflower seeds.
15:21A perfume, and then the f**king book ‘The Art of war’.
15:24What makes you read the ‘The Art of war’?
15:26I meant to read it a year ago.
15:28Seems like you haven't done it yet.
15:30I haven't even opened the book yet.
15:31Here is where I put my hookah.
15:32The same place where I stream.
15:35Hookah, bam-bam, and all that.
15:36How come you got hooked on hookah?
15:37Honestly, it helps me to relax.
15:39Just like smoking.
15:40What's interesting,
15:43I don't smoke cigarettes or anything like that.
15:48I can do without hookah for months but sometimes
15:53I can smoke it every day for a month, having five hookahs a day.
15:55I'm more careful about it now.
15:57I try to smoke no more than 1 hookah a day.
16:00I try.
16:01The fridge looking pretty neat, huh?
16:03Easily.
16:05What's inside?
16:07Oh it's a f**king mess.
16:08Some shit like tea, but I guess it's normal hotel stuff.
16:11Like cold drinks.
16:12Some kvass barrel that my mom brought me.
16:17Some heavy artillery on the top shelf?
16:18Well yeah, some whiskey.
16:22Chivas, 25 years old.
16:24I see you've been practicing.
16:25No, I only drink 18 year old Chivas and that's all.
16:28Just like today.
16:29Coming back to challenges.
16:32Do you have a price tag?
16:34How much does Mellstroy cost?
16:35What do you want me to do?
16:38One day, challenge, to be a housekeeper.
16:40— No. — No.
16:41Even if you paid me 5 million dollars.
16:45No.
16:46Pride or hubris?
16:48Pride. Some basic principles.
16:51Just no.
16:53You should understand that anything can happen.
16:55And that role was taken by me.
17:00Mbappe did a shout out to you
17:09Come on!
17:11Drake.
17:11Yep.
17:12Mr. Beast followed you.
17:14Your name has appeared on Mt. Everest
17:16as I reckon?
17:17What is the biggest achievement for you so far?
17:21Everest and shout out from the football players.
17:25I just realize what kind of risk that is for people.
17:27That is rough.
17:29I don't think I would be able to do that.
17:30Climb that peak?
17:32I wouldn't have the guts
17:34Yes, of course.
17:35It's a risk to life.
17:37Let's talk about some embarassing moments for you.
17:40The biggest one is probably the story of the 13-year-old from Lithuania
17:43who recorded a video of the president saying hello to you.
17:56You decided not to pay him 2 million.
17:59Okay, let's put it this way.
18:0140% was because the video was actually shit.
18:04So...
18:0460% was my fault that I hadn't posted a text about this challenge.
18:11It's just that I said during one of my streams... I was still drinking wine then...
18:15I said, I would give 2 million dollars to anyone who could record a video of the president saying hello
18:18I wanted the president saying hello straight from his office. And he knows who he says hello to.
18:26Yes, I did not f**king like it. Shit happens.
18:30I do understand that it's a very controversial issue.
18:36You could clearly tell that he was wishing you happy birthday or something.
18:43Well, he congratulated me on some 11th of May...
18:45Yes, on a national holiday. (11 March: Day of Restoration of Independence of Lithuania)
18:47but as you mentioned before:
18:50a hello from a president of any country and you will pay 2 million dollars.
18:55In fact, the criteria were met.
18:59Yes, you might not have liked them but the criteria were indeed fulfilled.
19:01I may have disliked them, but it turns out as my mistake, that I…
19:04Yes, it's your fault.
19:05You probably think that I'm looking for excuses, don't you?
19:09Well, indeed.
19:10Well, it just so happens that I paid 100 thousand dollars
19:15Turns out to be my fault.
19:16Fully yours.
19:17Well, I guess we'll have to pay remaining 1.9 million
19:25Just because I made a mistake.
19:27But the video was really bad, I didn't like it.
19:29I'm trying to make the point that the video was shitty,
19:32why would I pay 2 million for this.
19:35That's not what I had asked for, and I didn't want this.
19:38On the other hand, had I posted a text with all the requirements
19:41for the challenge, no one would have said a damn thing.
19:45Honestly, I realize deep down that it's my fault.
19:49That's why I’ll pay...
19:54...the remaining...
19:56...1.9 million.
19:58Alright, I’ll really get rid of this f**king impression that I screwed people over.
20:02I’ll take care of it.
20:04It's just that when I pay this much
20:06I have to have some kind of confirmation otherwise
20:08I will embarrass myself. For that mistake I will pay up.
20:11This kid who recorded the president saying hello faced a lot of backlash and hatred.
20:18The president say hello to some random streamer who promotes online casinos?
20:22President!
20:23They asked, ‘Can't you see what's right or wrong here?’
20:28On the other hand, he was bullied at his school
20:30for being a loser because you had scammed him.
20:33The guy's reputation was tarnished.
20:36You know, he comes from a regular family and lives an average life,
20:39he wanted to get them a nice house.
20:41He even dreamed about his future life that you would help him achieve.
20:49All of this was taken away.
20:52No, it's not taken away, everything is fine.
20:54Everything will be fine?
20:55Positive. I've already mentioned before, he is going to be just fine.
21:05The question on everyone's mind.
21:07What will you do Vasily if YouTube is finally blocked in Russia?
21:11Well, personally, I'm going to retire and do something I've been putting off for a very long time,
21:17Specifically video games. Specifically, GTA 5 RP. Let's go!
21:25GTA 5RP — is the most ambitious project in the online GTA universe.
21:30Every day there are more than 40 thousand users in the game at the same time,
21:35and they all play their own unique roles and personas that they create themselves.
21:41On September 13, the project will celebrate its fifth anniversary,
21:44and in honor of that, he's preparing a lot of big activities.
21:48And for our subscribers, we have a bonus.
21:52Register on any game server and use promo code VPISKA.
21:57This is where he appeared on the screen.
21:58The promo code gives 12500 game credits and VIP status for 10 days.
22:04This unlocks premium content.
22:06By the way, don't worry so much, we're still going to keep filming the VPISKA.
22:11We can do it right here in GTA 5 RP.
22:15Somewhere in this world dwells Bulkin, Khovansky, Jaspin, and Marmok.
22:21And even Sanya Zubarev hangs out here somewhere on these game servers.
22:27Definitely — Strawberry.
22:32I guess you could say these challenges have brought your popularity to its peak?
22:36What does this peak feel like to you?
22:39Horrifying.
22:41Absolutely horrifying.
22:43It's nice on one hand when people recognize you out on the streets, even here in Cyprus.
22:48Even small kids, teenagers, men,
22:50women aged 40+ all come up to me to say hello.
22:56Are these people mostly foreigners?
22:57Yes, we don't have a lot of Russian-speaking people here.
22:59If there are some Russians, they recognize me immediately
23:02and it is very bothersome.
23:03That's why I have to go outside with my bodyguards.
23:07That's why I don't really want to be outside sober anymore.
23:12I really don't like people staring at me.
23:15I'd probably never in my life be able to do a concert.
23:18People to look at me, there's 10k people, or 2k people, or 1000 people.
23:24I couldn't, I'd run away.
23:25On camera, it's one thing.
23:26You sit at home alone, look at the numbers, and that's it.
23:29Do you think your peak is going down or do you believe you can surpass it?
23:35It all depends solely on my actions now.
23:40Honestly, I wanted to say that this is very unusual for me.
23:45I don't normally give interviews.
23:49This was a serious step out of my comfort zone I'm so used to.
23:52I reckon it's going to help me
23:56break out of the apathy that I have been in
24:00because my viewer count and popularity hasn't been the best.
24:04I think it's because I've been playing RPG video games.
24:08I could play for 15 hours straight with very few bathroom or food breaks.
24:18Meaning that I have been severe apathetic.
24:20I wouldn't call it depression just yet because I know it's a lot worse than that.
24:23Why have I been apathetic?
24:28I was at my peak, with hundreds of thousands of online viewers,
24:31a lot of money and so on.
24:35Now all of this is slowly disappearing
24:37I don't feel life's simple pleasures anymore.
24:40I've always had to rely on alcohol
24:42...just to be able to enjoy life
24:45because being sober I was disappointed
24:47in everything and in everyone...
24:51Including myself.
24:53It's because I'm the same person as everyone else,
24:55I have my vices, I know my weaknesses.
24:58This makes me even angrier with myself.
25:02I don't have any reasons to be happy about in my life.
25:06Hold on, the only thing that made you happy was your viewer count, the number?
25:11I tried to get inside my own head and I reckon...
25:14that after stream with Morgenstern I lost my life goal.
25:18Because I had reached that number, I had broken my own online record.
25:22Considering I've been streaming for the past 8 or 9 years almost every day
25:26with only one 14 day break.
25:29And those were long every day streams, not just some short ones.
25:32That stream with Morgenstern reached 740 or 720 thousand people.
25:38After this any number wasn't doing anything for me anymore.
25:47Even though I had 100k people watch me on average when I streamed alone.
25:52But you could see I was a miserable, sad c***sucker
25:55because I didn't enjoy it at all.
25:57That Booster guy mentioned the online was flooded with bots?
26:01— Those aren't real numbers. I know that. — How do you know that?
26:04I have people who stream on Twitch.
26:08Then they go on Kick, they have one viewer like nine viewers.
26:12That's how it's done on Kick
26:13Were the real numbers about 100,000 ?
26:15I'm thinking 200,000.
26:17I'm thinking 200,000.
26:18He said that you saw the chat.
26:21It wasn't nearly as active as it should have been
26:24for that number.
26:26Look,
26:26casinos are not some stupid f**ks.
26:28Say, I had a stream with five casino promotions,
26:31each one paid 100-120 thousand dollars.
26:35For the stream.
26:36I'm not even talking about stream with Morgenstern,
26:38that's a whole other f**king story.
26:40Do you really think casino would pay me such an insane amount if I had faked the numbers?
26:43Let me explain the casino's possible logic here,
26:45it was indeed a big event.
26:47You're at the top of your popularity. Morgenstern's coming to your stream.
26:53Morgenstern who is the biggest pop star of 2020s came to you at your peak.
26:58And you have this tandem.
27:00Well, a lot of people wanted to see our faces together in the same frame.
27:04It's big event.
27:05Moreover he was well compensated for his cameo as he is a big star now.
27:10I paid 1 million dollars.
27:11And of course, if there are big numbers involved casino will only profit from this.
27:18Look, I'm gonna tell you this.
27:19Nobody has ever gambled just because I told them to.
27:26For sure.
27:27I don't exactly understand how I can prove this
27:31but I really don't want to make excuses here.
27:35If we take that stream with Morgenstern in particular,
27:41Do you know how much I was paid exactly to gamble on their websites?
27:45Millions of dollars.
27:46Exactly 3 million dolars.
27:47I paid Morgenstern 1 million dollars at first.
27:50He agreed and he was coming. I started negotiations with casinos.
27:53The deal was they’d pay me 3.2 million dollars so I’d make some profit.
27:56But instead, they deposited that money into my account instead and I ended up blowing it all during the stream.
27:59After the stream, I talked to guys and told Morgen
28:02that I had been given 3 million dollars for the stream and apparently we f**king blew it.
28:09They were surprised to say the least.
28:12Then we planned to go fishing and stream.
28:14Long story short, around a month ago he messaged me...
28:19saying that I hadn't apologized to Liza for that issue with his girl,
28:25No offense. It's just a question.
28:27Brother, it will be hard to offend me. Do your best.
28:29Okay. Why is your chick being f***ed by a fat grandpa?
28:33the next stream with him would cost me 3$ million.
28:36I would have to pay just to meet him and stream together.
28:43Kind of hurts my feelings.
28:44Wouldn't this have been easier if you just apologozied?
28:46I believe he would've been ready to stream with you for free.
28:49I said, ‘Listen, I propose the following option: let's just meet up and talk,
28:53Liza will explain it to me, and I will apologize to her in person,
28:56not on camera, right away.
28:58I'll say...
29:01Is it hard for you to say that word out loud?
29:03No.
29:03Not if I'm wrong.
29:05They didn't want to do that.
29:06Morever, this is absurd, look.
29:08Yeah?
29:09We're streaming,
29:10I said something like: ‘Alisher, please don't get mad.’
29:13Something like that.
29:14So I warned him in advance that this question might be unpleasant.
29:19He showed confidence by saying I couldn't possibly make him mad.
29:25So that question about that old dude was probably unexpected for him.
29:30You do realize that the way you asked him was super rude?
29:33Yes, I do.
29:35Extremely rude.
29:36Look, on the other hand his girl Liza had an interview
29:40where she shared the story about how she was f**ked by an old fat f**k.
29:43r**ed, c**ed (Russian prison slang, means rape, usually male)
29:45Wait. C***ed? Can this word even be applied to women?
29:48Well, I'm joking.
29:49He raped her. Not c***ed.
29:50Imagine, the person has gone through this violence
29:53and this will probably haunt her for many years.
30:00Does this mean I support rape?
30:04No, but the way you put it...
30:06shows that you depreciate her trauma and you're making fun of it.
30:14I guess there was a hint of irony.
30:17It might have come off like I had no compassion, yeah.
30:20Imagine you're in his shoes.
30:23How would you take it if you had a person...
30:26you truly love and appreciate...
30:29If it hurt my feelings I would ask the person to be more polite and respectful.
30:33Even Litvin said there were two options.
30:35Either to leave your stream right away...
30:36Or punch me right in my f**king face.
30:37Or punch you right in your f**king face.
30:38Damn this guy's though!
30:41All he does is punch everybody in their f**king faces.
30:44Let me tell how I would start this one.
30:47In what sense?
30:49In any sense.
30:51I mean, most likely, it would not hurt me directly.
30:53Yes, the person said something rude, okay.
30:55I would assume it's probably because he was a bit tipsy or because it was just part of the show.
31:00He himself is a showman, he knows the drill.
31:02Hype. Hype.
31:03Well... Yeah.
31:06So it turns out that hype comes before feelings?
31:09Of course!
31:10I really don't give a shit about his girlfriend's feelings.
31:14And...
31:15What about Alisher's feelings?
31:17You've really played on those.
31:18Well, yes.
31:19To sum up our short conversation so far,
31:24it seems that hype beats 150 million and hype is more important than any feelings.
31:29Hype has a lot more value than money.
31:32Is there something more important than hype?
31:35What things are more important than fame and money?
31:39Because that's essentailly what hype is.
31:44I guess your family, your friends...
31:46your health is more important.
31:48You can't buy love, love is stronger than money,
31:50No. Hype. Stronger than hype.
31:52Yes, love is stronger than any fame, and any amount of money.
31:55If I fell in love I would give zero f**ks about everything.
31:59But I can't fall in love with anyone at all.
32:03VPISKA with Mell is perhaps the most nerve-wracking in history.
32:07While we were on an airplane in Antalya,
32:09Mell went on the stream and said he wouldn't do an interview.
32:12And we can fly back.
32:15For some reason, though, everyone thought it was a warm-up.
32:18So the first thing I did in Cyprus
32:20I was looking for tickets home
32:23Mel had us worried about everything,
32:25except for one thing, which is that we can
32:27to fly back home.
32:29After all, as long as the world has Aviasales,
32:31nothing to worry about.
32:32Aviasails is a service for buying cheap airline tickets.
32:36Respect!
32:40Speaking of that, let's talk about your first love.
32:43I was 15-16 at the time.
32:46I had just got into boxing.
32:49Because I experienced a lot of bullying for being horribly thin
32:53it was f*****g scary.
32:57So I got into boxing and after that for some reason
33:00I had this idea in my mind that I wanted to talk to girls on VK.
33:03Because I was super shy to talk to girls on the streets,
33:10I thought.. that I'm too cool to come to girls first.
33:16I think I had some complex or I was just really shy. I don't even f**king know.
33:19So I saw this girl on VK her name was Karina.
33:22She was a year or two younger than me.
33:26So we met up,
33:27and that same night we had petting.
33:32You know what petting is right? It's when you touch each other through the clothing.
33:36There is some kind of friction going on, hugging etc
33:44So eventually I f*****g fell in love with her
33:46She wasn't fat but her thighs were super thick.
33:49She also showed up in mini shorts.
33:51I was f*****g drooling.
33:52That was my first time meeting a girl.
33:56Apart from seeing my classmates.
33:58I was head over heels for her, completely lost my f**king mind.
34:00I was super jealous. She didn't like me back, by the way.
34:03She talked to me just because she was nice and respectful,
34:09but she wasn't attracted to me as a guy.
34:12For few months I had been jealous of her own f*****g brother.
34:16I saw her seeing this guy all the time
34:18and I was like who the f**k he was.
34:20Turned out it was her brother.
34:22We lived practically next to each other.
34:23She lived in the private sector, I lived in an apartment complex but it was super close.
34:29So when she left her house
34:30I would watch her, to see where she would go. She didn't know I had been watching.
34:32So you were stalking her?
34:33Pretty much, yes.
34:33One time she saw me.
34:35That was f*****g cringe.
34:38Even now thinking about it makes me feel cringe.
34:39In the end I was mad in love.
34:41It was true love.
34:43She went to a summer camp a couple months after during the summer.
34:48So I as get it..
34:50Someone had f****d her there, some shit like this.
34:51So when she came back I started losing the interest.
34:55But she, on the other hand, became more affectionate
34:57I was f**king shocked to find out how this all works.
34:59When I'm in love with her,
35:00she doesn't give a f**k, when I don't give a f**k she wants to be with me. What the f**k is that?
35:03Well, anyway in the end she started dating another dude.
35:06After a year of relationship with him,
35:08I had been streaming by that time, I found out she had hanged herself.
35:11on the door handle.
35:12And after that..
35:15I really wanted to remember what it was like, to love.
35:17You know, when you're head over heels
35:19and you are so childish and have that lust for life. Everything is great and fun.
35:24But I couldn't do it anymore.
35:27Even if I wanted to,
35:28I opted for my career instead.
35:31Did you go to her funeral?
35:32No.
35:33What did you feel when you found out?
35:35I didn't give a shit I think.
35:37I recollected few memories with her
35:39I recollected few memories with her. A lot of time had passed.
35:42I actually remember something about her.
35:43When we were talking, at the time,
35:47she was cutting...
35:49you know people have it...
35:51Selfharm?
35:54Yes, selfharm. It was really rough, not gonna lie.
35:56I talked to that guy.
35:58Well, he said that he came back home from work and saw that shit.
36:03He immediately called an ambulance and all that. He was f**king shocked.
36:07Frankly speaking, they did fight quite often.
36:09She had severe depression too.
36:11Do you remember why you stalked her?
36:13What was your purpose? To find out that she had been cheating on you?
36:15No, I was horribly jealous.
36:16Absolutely. I am extremely jealous.
36:19Do you think she took the ability to fall in love again from you?
36:24I don't know
36:24Did she traumatize you?
36:25We're gonna have to see.
36:27But you know, it wasn't her death that traumatized me.
36:30Her rejection did.
36:32Meaning her rejection traumatized me a lot
36:34more than her death, for f**k's sake.
36:36You get the point?
36:38Well, that was crazy.
36:39So her rejection hurt your feelings?
36:41Yeah, I guess so.
36:42I don't remember what it was like.
36:43But I assume that's exactly the case, yes.
36:45I mean, to experience this f*****g rollercoaster… It was super f*****g painful.
36:48Just imagine how f*****g insane I got.
36:51She had 146 friends on "VK"
36:53I checked every single one of her friends,
36:56every single picture for her likes.
37:00Do you realize what the f**k that is?
37:01Right now we can laught about it but it was rough back then.
37:03I guess she did take the ability.
37:04As if I'm not capable to love anymore.
37:06What do you think
37:08She hurt you so much that
37:09now you have a grudge against all women, right?
37:14Because of that when you look at woman you kind of see a piece of meat.
37:17Just an object for sexual favors.
37:20Why do you think a woman can cheat on her husband?
37:23If at some point in their marriage he stops being romantic and care?
37:29For her that's a reason to cheat, for example.
37:32Why do you think a man cheats on his wife?
37:33A man can cheat too.
37:35It's just that whenever a man cheats,
37:36every woman gets pissed off, calls the man a f****g schmuck, that she needs to take her half from him, apartment and etc.
37:40Let's say I agree, okay.
37:41But when a woman cheats…
37:44Oopsie, your own fault my dude.
37:46It's probably because she was unhappy in the marriage.
37:48Statistically, men cheat 2 times more often than women.
37:53It does happen.
37:54Who made up such statistics?
37:55Well, I saw it in ‘Rhymes and Punches’ not too long ago.
37:58Sounds very f*****g convincing to me.
37:59Convincing, right?
38:00F**k yes it is.
38:01This is my scientific basis.
38:03More like pop-science.
38:04The source :‘Rhymes and Punches’.
38:06You know, if we talk about f*****g grudge again.
38:12I don't even know.
38:13Did you have any relationship after that though?
38:16An actual relationship, not a situationship.
38:17The only relationship I've had it was back then, only once in my life.
38:21Mind you, I didn't even date Karina.
38:22I was madly in love with her and she was like: "Go f**k yourself", just so you know.
38:25Was Karina the reason why you got concussion?
38:26I got concussion because of a girl..
38:28with whom I had relationship in highschool.
38:31I saw her at school. She had a thick, yummy ass.
38:35In a nutshell, she was 2 or 3 years younger than me
38:37and I wrote her on VK something along the lines of: ‘Hello
38:41I'm from that school,
38:43let's meet up and have a walk together, we could eat something together, for f**k's sake.’
38:47So we met each other
38:49and we liked each other
38:51and started dating.
38:53To be honest, this was some ridiculous, short highschool fling.
38:54Wait, was this before or after Karina?
38:56This was a year after Karina.
38:59Yeah? How come?
39:00How did I get a concussion?
39:01Some dude was sharing her nudes at school.
39:04He had them because she had sent it to her ex a year ago, before me.
39:11So he had sent it to everyone else and they started sharing and posting it at school.
39:16So I found the guy who was sharing those pictures the most and..
39:20..and we ran into each other accidentally.
39:21I was coming back home from my boxing training
39:23and he was with his friends, so they immediately offered to settle everything in a fight.
39:26I said that I was really tired
39:28because I had just been training and that there was a f**king crowd against me alone.
39:31Kind of unfair. This is nonsense.
39:33One thing lead to another so he threw a punch,
39:38I evaded it.
39:40So I ran away home with the remaining stamina that I had.
39:46The next day I came to school
39:47and see him heading to the school cafeteria.
39:49I came up to him and I had this backpack on me at the time.
39:51Well..f**k..I really f****d up this time.
39:54So as I was trying to punch him.
39:59My f**king backpack moved
40:01and the heavy weight and the force of it made me miss the target.
40:04He saw all of that,
40:06comes up to me and just hits me right in my f*****g face.
40:08We knocked each other down to the ground and someone stopped us. Something like that.
40:10The guy's friend is here by the way.
40:15Him and I we travel together now.
40:16Really?
40:17Yeah. I guess you never know how things can turn out.
40:19When did you break up with the girl?
40:21Literally soon, by the way.
40:23Our relationship went downhill.
40:25Because of the pictures?
40:26When he had punched me, after an hour I felt nauseous.
40:31My nose was bleeding.
40:33So someone took me to the hospital,
40:34I was diagnosed with the concussion. I spent there 5 days.
40:37She came there to visit me.
40:39So after that we broke up.
40:41I acted, perhaps, like a true man for once,
40:44or as a battle cuckold. Who the f**k knows?
40:46The audience will tell us.
40:47I just don't understand what is the role of a fighting cuckold, as you said.
40:50Look, I'm sure some people will say I did the right thing.
40:53Well, at least I stood up for her.
40:55I'd say overall I did the right thing in my opinion.
40:58But for some reason you still broke up with her.
41:00Well everything went f*****g downhill afterwards.
41:02Probably because I didn't beat him up.
41:05You know? I don't know.
41:07Maybe there were other reasons I was unaware of.
41:08Did it bother you that you lost a fight?
41:10Of course.
41:11As a guy, that was bothering me a lot.
41:14But I made my peace with it. It happens.
41:15You said that you did boxing at the time. Were you any good?
41:18No, not at all.
41:19I just did it for myself, to keep my body in shape, to increase my you know self-confidence.
41:24I did know couple of combos though.
41:29Let's talk about Morgenshtern again.
41:31Had you considered a possibility that he might just stand up and leave?
41:35I had thought everything over.
41:37At some point I thought there would be a fight.
41:38Really?
41:38Yes. I had to ask at least one provocative question.
41:41He took it well, good job.
41:46Do you think his reputation was tarnished after the stream?
41:50I don't even f*****g know.
41:51He told me there was something like that.
41:54I mean after the stream for the next two months
41:58he wanted me to apologize for that.
42:03I think I have different mindset, I don't know.
42:05It's absurd to apologize for such a small f**king thing.
42:07He knew what was happening on camera, that those 3 hours
42:11were just a f*****g show.
42:14He had to know we were putting on a show.
42:16I didn't even ask him to clean my f**king room,
42:21or set up a hookah for me.
42:23I didn't even try to humiliate him in any way.
42:27What do you think is worth apologizing for then?
42:29Let's say, someone insulted another person for something they didn’t actually do.
42:35For example,
42:36after our interview if I find out that one of my cups from my mini bar was missing
42:45and for some f*****g reason I assumed you had stolen it
42:48But in reality, I might have just lost it somewhere instead
42:50then I would apologize to you.
42:51Does it ever happen to you?
42:53Yes, quite often, since I'm a heavy drinker
42:56I can make a lot of mistakes.
42:58Morgenshtern in our interview mentioned
43:00that he had offered you friendship
43:02but you refused.
43:03What did you think about his offer at the time?
43:07Do you think it was sincere
43:09or was he just looking to use your connections
43:12like Drake for example?
43:15I assume it was not sincere as he would benefit from it.
43:24Benefit?
43:24Benefit, yes.
43:26I don't believe in such bullshit as friendship.
43:29Well he came over, you streamed together
43:32you drank together.
43:33No, he was paid 1 million dollars in advance
43:36and at that very moment he f*****g teleported here.
43:39We really tried to put on a show worth a million dollars.
43:43You even talked about how much it would him to do a porn shoot.
43:47Yes he said he’d do it for 5 million.
43:52Do you think it is substantial amount of money?
43:54I feel like he has never even seen 5 million in his life.
43:56He always throws out different numbers because he always bargains.
44:00I think he has 5 million.
44:01I mean if he sold his ass, all of the apartments, his real estate he bought
44:05then yeah he might have 5 million.
44:06Did you tell him how much money you had?
44:08Did I say something around 200 million dollars?
44:10Yes.
44:11You know, in my head that was my total net worth.
44:18Your brand?
44:19Yes, my brand.
44:20The whole TikTok project,
44:23all my Telegram channels, Instagram, my face.
44:28I just estimated it like that.
44:29If the real net worth is 20x less I'm fine with that.
44:34That was just my opinion after all.
44:35Plus, I'd like to mention that I had a case 3 months ago
44:38when I won 10 million dollars for a single stream.
44:41For a single stream. I mean, 1 billion rubles.
44:44When you win this much it's pure luck.
44:48But it doesn't mean that your net worth is 200 million dollars, does it?
44:52Yes, I'm not trying to base my net worth on one lucky event.
44:56But if we take into consideration all of my video editors
45:03I can't even say how much content they generate.
45:07I can tell you that..
45:11I pay them
45:185 million dollars every month.
45:21This is just to cover the edits, memes, etc.
45:25How many memes have been made to me?
45:26Maybe you’ve seen me on TikTok quite a bit?
45:32I guess the phrase ‘What kind of business is that, b***h?’
45:35will be forever imprinted in our pop culture of 2020s.
45:38(reference to a Russian song that is associated with Mellstroy by Kizaru — Что за бизнес сука?)
45:43I feel like this phrase
45:46is a lot more popular than the f*****g song itself.
45:48Do you know what the thing is about this track?
45:50We're discussing my net worth and stuff, right?
45:53Correct.
45:54One of the editors decided to cut a clip of me singing ‘What kind of business is that, b***h?’
46:02from a super old stream.
46:04Super old stream!
46:06One of the editors decided to cut a clip of me singing
46:08‘What kind of business is that, b***h?’
46:10I was sitting and singing that song, I was drunk with this girl
46:12and I would just sing that over and over again.
46:14When he posted that video it went viral.
46:20I was at my lowest at the time, you could clearly tell, just as I am now.
46:24But I managed to get my shit together back then,
46:30I will do it now if keep doing the right things.
46:34This interview is one of those things as it pushes my boundaries
46:36and I step out of my comfort zone.
46:38They have been helping and they will help me to get to a billion dollars.
46:43I may be the first streamer to have a billion dollars.
46:49A billion?
46:50It all sounds like a fairy tale, a delusion.
46:53It doesn't work like that.
46:55But if you believe in yourself
46:56and if you have achieved something already
46:59why not achieve more than that?
47:01How much money do you owe your editors now?
47:03About 10.5 million dollars right now.
47:05I reckon, you said that you were not going to pay it back on one of your streams?
47:08I assumed I wouldn't pay anything back because they have been abusing it.
47:13They sell one edit 5 times
47:15and moderators see no issues here.
47:17It seems like it's moderator's problem. They should..
47:19Well, I understand that.
47:22It's just that there is a lot going on on my plate right now.
47:26I'm sure someone will be able to relate.
47:27You know, when you're burnt out
47:28and you want to leave everything behind, tell everyone to go f**k themselves?
47:31But right know
47:32I assure you the payments will be done, it's just a matter of time.
47:37The faster I get back on track mentally
47:42the faster payments will be made.
47:43So, like, clips from this interview
47:47would count too.
47:50What do you think you real net worth is now?
47:54Not 200 million dollars anymore?
47:56Let's just multiply my daily earnings by 1.5 years and that's the sum.
48:01Let's do.
48:02Right now I'm making 50 000$ a day
48:03because there is only one casino sponsor.
48:04I'm negotiating with 2-3 more
48:09their prices have been a little down
48:10but I expect they pay at least 60 000$ per stream and so on.
48:14Overall, it can be around 200 000$ a day, let's put it that way.
48:18Multiply this number by 500.
48:20We need a calculator.
48:21This would be 97 million dollars
48:25and 200 thousand.
48:27I guess my whole brand costs 100 rubles.
48:30What do you think is different between you and Alisher Morgenshtern
48:33and what similarities do you both share?
48:35Well, I think..
48:38Both of us are outcasts.
48:39Okay
48:43F**k, or 'shitstroys'
48:45For f**k's sake, both of us are
48:47a little disappointed in a sober, normal life.
48:51A little?
48:52Just a tiny bit.
48:53Okay
48:54Well, I can still do something about it.
48:59I don't think he can at this point.
49:01We both have this trait to put on a show.
49:04Make an impact, a legacy
49:09an imprint you know?
49:12An imprint is a good word.
49:14More like a big pile of shit.
49:16I'm just making fun of myself.
49:18How do you differ?
49:19I treat money in a different way.
49:22I mean he is totally in love with money.
49:24He can promote any kind of shit in his Telegram.
49:29Absolutely kind of shit
49:32For the past three months
49:34he has been promoting some kind of f*****g crpyto coins.
49:39Did he say something like:
49:41'Yes, I scam you but I'm getting paid for that’.
49:44I remember he said something like this about his coin or something.
49:45I think he warned his followers not to bring him any money because he can scam them at any point.
49:50Well I can't do this.
49:51I would not be able to be so shitty with my own audience.
49:53To bite the hand that feeds?
49:54Title: Mellstroy calls own followers 'borov'
49:56The only time I can lie to them is when I pretend that I'm in a good mood
49:58while I actually feel like shit.
50:00Alright
50:01I'm always transparent with my stuff.
50:06I don't see any point in hiding it.
50:09Maybe that's why I've been so unhappy lately,
50:11because money likes silence as everyone says?
50:14I'm constantly talking about the f*****g money,
50:16showing how much I'm making etc.
50:17Maybe I'm somewhat unhappy because of my excessive transparency and honesty.
50:25You know?
50:27I'm really open with my audience,
50:29I can't even describe it
50:32They even know what my d**k looks like!
50:34I'm literally naked in every sense possible.
50:38I have nothing to hide or to tell that I haven’t already.
50:42Well, except for a few things that could get me another criminal charge.
50:52I've been sick and tired of those f*****g criminal charges on me.
50:55Anyway, let's go.
50:59So we went up to the second floor, where I sleep.
51:03I just come here to sleep.
51:05Let's show them around.
51:06There are a few caps.
51:08Some underwear, water, a bag.
51:10Also, just so you know, there is more money in the bag.
51:12I store it here just in case.
51:13How much do you have in here?
51:14I don't know. Probably around 50 000$. Maybe a hundred.
51:17You know it's my stash for a rainy day. Some shit like that.
51:21There is another one. Inconspicuous.
51:23Let me show you, follow me.
51:23Let's go.
51:24Here we have a sink, I just brush my teeth here. I bathe over there.
51:28Where do you think
51:31My stash is hidden in here?
51:34Maybe in a box?
51:36No.
51:37In your t-shirt?
51:39No
51:40Here?
51:41Pick it up
51:43Yes.
51:44At least it's inconspicuous!
51:46Yes. You are good
51:48at hiding things indeed.
51:49Yes, that's crazy!
51:50You should hide somewhere where your enemy won't even consider looking for you.
51:55You are a conspiracy master.
51:57Easily.
51:57You are indeed.
51:58Your suite is around 300 square meters?
52:01Something like that.
52:02300 square meters, that's impressive.
52:04Why are all of your curtains shut down?
52:06Why do you live as if you're a vampire in a complete darkness?
52:08I absolutely love darkness and the cold.
52:09Wherever I go I turn the AC all the way down to 18 degrees Celsius.
52:13I love darkness.
52:14I'm an owl, I'm very used to nocturnal lifestyle.
52:17I sleep during the day.
52:22What’s the longest you’ve spent living like a recluse, not even leaving your suite?
52:26My personal record is around 2-2.5 months without seeing anyone or leaving my suite.
52:35You mean without even going outside at all?
52:36Correct
52:37Do you remember when was the last time
52:39you were happy as children get happy over some little things?
52:44F**k, that's a good one.
52:47I'm trying to remember now.
52:51When was the last time I was happy over some little things?
52:53Yes.
52:53You mean something like a sunset?
52:54Or a sunrise.
52:55Yeah, more like a sunrise.
52:59Hold on, let me think.
53:07F**k, this is hard.
53:09I don't even know.
53:10You don't know?
53:11Absolutely no.
53:11Or you don't remember?
53:13Both. I don't f*****g know.
53:14It was a very long time ago.
53:16The last time I stood still for a moment and just enjoyed nature or something.
53:24I don't know, it doesn't have to be nature.
53:26It could be some cake you had,
53:27a tiny puppy you saw and decided to pet.
53:29No, actually I do feel pity for cats.
53:30But I don't necesarilly love animals.
53:34I don't have this thing when I see them randomly on the street and have this urge to pet and kiss them.
53:39I respect animals, I mean…
53:41Respect?
53:42But...
53:46But I don't want to f*****g kiss or pet them for f**ks sake.
53:48I respect women and animals, right?
53:50Everyone keeps inviting me to climb a mountain,
53:53go for a ride,
53:55but it only works for me when I'm drunk
53:59because it enhances my emotions.
54:03Doesn't it work when you're sober?
54:04Not at all for f**ks sake.
54:06At what point in life did
54:08you notice that you didn't get the pleasure from anything anymore?
54:11At the very moment when I had my first big money.
54:13Big money for me is when I started making over 200 thousand dollars a month.
54:17Does big money take away happiness?
54:19I guess it's the money moment, yes.
54:21I mean I don't get any pleasure from other things anymore
54:24I guess there is something inside of me that is dragging me down to rock bottom so I would lose everything I have.
54:30In that case I guess I can enjoy little f*****g things
54:32as sunset, sunrise.
54:35A dog running around and shitting on the grass, you know.
54:37I think it's cool.
54:38To each his own.
54:40When waves crash on the rocks.
54:43You come from an average working family, your father
54:47Had a factory job.
54:48And your mom worked as a cashier?
54:49Yes, she worked at a convenience store.
54:51By the way, you loved that convenience store, didn't you?
54:53Yes, I would visit her quite often.
54:54I used to visit her after school
54:57and we would talk for a couple of hours.
54:59It was cool.
55:00We would sit and talk, drink tea or coffee with some cookies.
55:04The atmosphere was really warm.
55:08We would talk about life,
55:09my f*****g problems and so on.
55:12What did you think your adulthood would be like as a child?
55:15Who did you want to become?
55:17I didn't think about the future at all.
55:21At one point when I made 500$ a day I was f*****g shocked.
55:27500$ was my dad's monthly salary at the time.
55:30When I first started streaming I had 400 viewers.
55:34What did your parents think of your future?
55:36Well, my father supported me in some sense.
55:39It was kind of weird
55:41but he said if I ended up having Fs at school
55:45he would hire me as his subordinate at the factory.
55:47On one hand it's kind of supportive but on the other hand it's kind of useless shit
55:52Anyway, since my childhood I've had this urge to make money online.
55:57I would trade, I would bet in CS:GO, etc.
56:01When I was 12 I tried to create my own Minecraft servers.
56:06I even watched all the tutorials for it.
56:12Already as a teenager, did you understand how to make money?
56:15I tried to understand. I was just trying.
56:18Were you punished often as a child when you screwed up?
56:22Well, my father did beat me up couple times
56:25but it was in the 4th grade.
56:28After 5th grade he stopped doing that.
56:34But there was some kind of psychological pressure, yes.
56:38They would say if you don't study you will end up
56:41becoming a fecal sludge cleaner.
56:44A fecal sludge cleaner?
56:45A f*****g fecal sludge cleaner.
56:46I think our childhood was a bit rough
56:50when it came to relationship with our parents.
56:51My brother and I would often get into fights with them
56:54You know, this constant need to sort things out type of thing.
56:56After my dad died
56:58I realized what bunch of bullcrap all of that had been.
57:02All those confrontations, fights, arguments over who was right or wrong.
57:08What was the reason for the conflict?
57:09Our grandmother.
57:10What does your grandmother have to do with anything?
57:13We were backing our grandma but our parents didn't
57:16because of some shit hat went down in the family.
57:19Our grandmother scammed our mom for an apartment, at least a part of it, to be precise.
57:24She met up with a notary and fraudulently got my mom to sign the document
57:27to her part of the apartment.
57:29Later it turned out she had actually signed away her claim to the inheritance, which was the apartment itself.
57:33As I understood it, in a nutshell.
57:36If my relatives see this interview they'd probably be f*****g shocked to hear me say bunch of bullcrap.
57:42As I understand, you weren't really close with your grandmother anyway?
57:45No, that's the point.
57:46We were still close even after that
57:50but our parents were shocked that we could still talk to her despite all the horrible things she had done.
57:55And this caused a lot of conflicts.
57:58Were you a happy kid?
58:00I'd say yes, I was.
58:03I have a lot of memories from that time
58:05when we would go fishing.
58:07It really was f*****g happy
58:09What was your most valuable gift to your parents?
58:13Most valuable?
58:14Correct.
58:15You know, my dad died around 1.5 years ago
58:20As if I didn't have the opportunity at the time.
58:22Maybe I did have it
58:23I would spend a lot of money at strip clubs
58:25I could go to one and spend 6000$ over night.
58:29Well…Recently
58:34I have bought my mom an SUV for 60 000$ USD
58:38and an apartment for another 60 000$ in Gomel, Belarus.
58:40Sometimes I would also send gifts to my brother for New Year's Eve, you know
58:45We had some arguments over finances.
58:48Overall, he explained to me
58:51that I should share some of my wealth with other family members and so on.
58:53I gave them 100 000$ for New Years Eve that year.
58:56Then I gave him one of my casino partnerships.
59:01and he exchanged it for my apartment in Moscow.
59:04It costs around 400 000$.
59:08Then there was this BMW that every guy wants.
59:11Which BMW would that be?
59:12Uhhh. BMW X5!
59:16You're the person who is responsible for supporting your whole family financially?
59:18I guess so.
59:20Meaning your mother…
59:22My brother. I mean these are the closest ones.
59:25Your uncle?
59:26My uncle…
59:28You know, when I sent him 30 000$ last year
59:33he was really surprised.
59:41He told me how he had that lust for life once again,
59:44there were girls too.
59:46We drove in a convertible truck on Mauritius.
59:52We swam in the sea, rode on boats.
59:54I guess he had never seen such a life before.
59:57And he was f*****g shocked
59:59after that when
1:00:02he came back to Gomel, Belarus.
1:00:05He could not go back to normal life anymore.
1:00:11700-800$ dollars a month working your ass off it's hard on you mentally.
1:00:18Especially when you've had such an amazing f*****g experience.
1:00:21- So what happened to him? - I guess he became an alcoholic in Gomel.
1:00:27- Did he ask for more money? - No, not at all.
1:00:30- So you happened to be the tempter. - I mean it's a good thing, isn't it?
1:00:37He became an alcoholic after that. He could not come back to normal life.
1:00:40- I mean every person decides what to do after that. - Does your mom spend most of her time with you?
1:00:44For the past year I would say yes. She has been trying to be near me and Tsur lately.
1:00:51I think it's easier on her, to be close to her children, I understand her. We live here.
1:00:57Maybe we don't see each other as often but at least we're close and that's good enough.
1:01:01- How did your family take your streams? - At first they didn't take it too well to be honest.
1:01:07My dad would come and tell me: "Don't do stupid shit." When I would stream at 10 or 11 pm.
1:01:19I started streaming in high school, I was in 11th grade at the time.
1:01:22After that, when I first made my 100$, which was 200 000 Belarussian rubles they changed their mind.
1:01:33The average salary was 500-600 thousand at the time and I was able to bring 200 thousand home by doing "stupid shit".
1:01:40They became more understanding.
1:01:43What did they say when you started having problems with law enforcement?
1:01:48Damn, this is one of a topic.
1:01:50My first problem with law enforcement was in 2017 when I stripped girls down in a chat-roulette.
1:01:56I was one of the top streamers at the time. Online viewer count was around 40 000 people at the time, I was f**king shocked.
1:02:02- Underage girls? - Yes. I mean "Not every woman was a woman of age".
1:02:09I mean there were 18 year olds, but there were probably even younger girls. That's a fact.
1:02:16But hey I was 17 at the time myself so I really didn't give a f**k. I still don't feel any remorse to this day.
1:02:22The point is that it did bother them a lot for whatever reason so they overreacted in my opinion.
1:02:31I was arrested at the time. Let me tell you how it went. I was laying low at the time at some peoples' place.
1:02:38Nobody had seen me for a while but they had been looking for me all over because a criminal case was already opened.
1:02:44- So you were hiding. - In the end, the investigator called my mom and told her:
1:02:50just show us your son, all of us would go to our local police department just for a short talk.
1:03:01We f**king trusted them. We came to them, they came out of the car, I assume there were 4 of them: case officers and investigators.
1:03:11I even came up to him to shake his hand, to say hello.
1:03:15He looked at me for 3 seconds, thought it over, shook my hand and said:
1:03:19"Okay, get in the car, you're coming with us" and he told my mom "Not you, though?.
1:03:23She was in a complete shock. In the end, after some arguments
1:03:26they did in fact let her in the car to come with me to the local police department.
1:03:35- Was this some kind of an off-road police vehicle? - It was just a regular operatives' car.
1:03:38A type of car where a cop sits on the driver's seat and f**king masturbates and looks if other people are not doing drugs or whatever.
1:03:44So they brought me to the police station, took me to the room.
1:03:49And the woman-investigator asks me if I was Burim Andrey Aleksandrovich.
1:03:54She had that f**king tone in her voice too: "A criminal case on you was opened according to the article tick-tack of the criminal code'
1:03:59That was f**king rough I tell you that.
1:04:02My parents were told to bring me some clothes within the next couple of hours because they were gonna put me in.
1:04:14They put me in temporary detention facility which is a bit less harsh than a jail.
1:04:16I was in a complete f**king shock. My parents had it even worse probably.
1:04:22I tried to explain myself a little. They gave me some documents to sign.
1:04:27I remember watching those Youtube videos where they recommend not to sign anything
1:04:32especially if you don't know what you're signing. It could have been a f**king mess.
1:04:38Because of that excessive stress I started thinking really slowly.
1:04:43You know, I completely forgot how to f**king write, I couldn't even hold the pen straight.
1:04:48- You forgot how to hold a pen? - f**k yes I did!
1:04:52Anyway, when I was able to hold the pen again I told them I had to go over it to understand what I was singing.
1:04:58They waited for 5 then 10 then 15 minutes until I finished reading.
1:05:02Because of that stress I was only able to read two lines and grasp them.
1:05:06Now you understand how f**king slow and stressed out I was.
1:05:07In the end, I only signed one out of four documents and they said: "Okay you're going down then."
1:05:14And then they took me to the first floor and put me in a cell.
1:05:17I had to wait for a few hours before police officers came and opened the cell.
1:05:24They searched all over then put me in handcuffs and then put me in bobik and then we went to TDF.
1:05:29Then I found out that my dad had a f**king bottle of vodka and decided to make a mess at the station.
1:05:38He yelled: "Give my son back to me!" I was thinking at the time: "Why the f**k would you do this, are you f**king stupid?"
1:05:44Now I see this in a different way. I think he did a good job.
1:05:49- He decided to get you out. - I mean it's pretty obvious that it was f**king stupid but the gesture!
1:05:55He came in there and made a huge mess. He was nervous.
1:06:02- How much time did you spend at TDF? - I spent a week in there.
1:06:05- How was it? - Look, it was pretty rough.
1:06:07You enter the cell, they have this super thick door. In the cell you see a few guys.
1:06:14One is suspected of attempted murder, the other one brutally murdered somebody.
1:06:20Another one, I don't even remember. Let's not mention him.
1:06:24Anyway, they even had a window that was covered with two metal grids, thickest f**king walls and even one bus stop.
1:06:34I was thinking at the time, why the f**k did I do this? I could have been free. The atmosphere is absolutely horrifying. f**king scary.
1:06:45We f**king communicated. Talked about some shit we had done, they smoked cigs, we did some push ups.
1:06:52- Did they try to pressure you somehow? - No, absolutely not. These guys were mature, around 45 years old.
1:07:00- Did they ask you why you were there? - Yes, I told them that they were incriminating pornography to me.
1:07:07I explained what exactly I was incriminated for: I had been on the internet, talking to f**king b**thes.
1:07:14Yes, I was 17 at time. Or literally just got 18. I don't even remember.
1:07:21So I was on the Internet talking to girls and made them undress. I just talked to them and they put their clothes off.
1:07:27So I was put behind bars for that.
1:07:29But I remember them asking whether or not it was in real life or over the Internet.
1:07:34They asked if I had undressed underage girls in real life. And each time I answered it was over the Internet and that's all.
1:07:41Is law enforcement still haunting you? You've had troubles in Belarus, in Russia, in Dubai.
1:07:51Aren't you afraid that one day you actually might end up in prison?
1:07:54I'm trying not to cross any lines. Let's count.
1:07:56The criminal case for pornography was in 2017,
1:08:00then another one for slamming the girl's head on the table, another one was for military serivce.
1:08:08- For military service evasion? - Yeah.
1:08:11And the fourth one was in Dubai. I recorded a guy and posted him on IG stories who was f**king with me in the first place,
1:08:19I insulted him by saying: 'Hey, f**ktard'. I guess I've had four f**king cases now.
1:08:23Yes, I've never crossed the lines. I think I understand what the lines are at least.
1:08:31- This fly is getting on your nerves, isn't it? - Can you believe it? So annoying.
1:08:36- Are you afraid of prison? - You know, if I'm being honest, yes.
1:08:40But I wouldn't want to speak out about it. I truly believe that your life attracts what you fear the most.
1:08:48The more you are afraid of something the more likely it will happen.
1:08:52You know, be as it may. Imagine this, I'm walking on the streets with my mom,
1:08:57some dude f**king punches her. And let's say I have pepper spray or a knife.
1:09:02I'd do it. I would end up in prison but at least I'd know why. At least I would understand that it was worth it.
1:09:07This is all hypothetical. You never go outside without bodyguards.
1:09:10Yes, that is exactly why. I really f**king enjoy having bodyguards.
1:09:14- The bag you have is pretty trendy, isn't it? - You know, I truly consider this purchase to be one of the best ones in my life.
1:09:21I purchased it around 3 years ago and it still is in mint condition. It doesn't have a single scratch, it's not dirty or broken.
1:09:32It's super comfy. It cost around 140 thousand rubles.
1:09:36Just because of this thing, because of that freak, this was some kind of exclusive collection,
1:09:42just because of that freak.
1:09:43Well, this is the Statue of Liberty. Not exactly a freak.
1:09:46- Huh? - Does the Statue of Liberty look like a freak to you?
1:09:48- Of course. - I see. I assume this is your wardrobe, isn't it?
1:09:51Nobody ever sleeps here, so that's why all the stuff is out. Undies, socks, f**king caps, by the way.
1:09:57- You do love caps. - Yes, I have a shit ton of them.
1:10:00I can wear a new one every day of the month.
1:10:02- I feel like a hat is your signature accessory. - Yes, unfortunately I wear them quite often.
1:10:07I'm normally bald and it doesn't look good. So that's why I wear them.
1:10:10- Do you have a lot of clothes overall? - That's all I got.
1:10:13- Is that so? - Yeah.
1:10:14I might have a dirty tank top on the second floor. These are the clothes I travel in.
1:10:20If I need anything I can go and get it at any time. I stopped chasing the brand clothes long time ago.
1:10:27- Well I guess this item can be some high fashion brand. - Well, yeah.
1:10:30f**king DG. Dolce Gabanna or some shit. It's not even a brand, is it? Some tank tops.
1:10:36Well here I have Armani, but it's shitty anyway. See, there are different moments in this pictures.
1:10:41Alyona, whom I slammed, Tsurim with condensed milk, Deadpool.
1:10:45This one is a friend who, well, he died. Richard down there. In a BMW.
1:10:50Mellstroy Working Party. It's actually pretty cool I showed this on stream and people loved it.
1:10:56- They did? - Yes, they said it was great.
1:10:58- What are your top three favorite brands? - Louis Vuitton but I only like their bags because their sneakers
1:11:03are extremely heavy, as if it is 3 kg each.
1:11:06It's super uncomfortable to walk in. I guess Adidas, Nike.
1:11:11And, perhaps, something like Dolce & Gabbana. They're just comfy.
1:11:15Do you think that your style is a bit silly, like a hillbilly?
1:11:18What did you just say? Hillbilly?
1:11:20I look like a f**king bum, what the f**k' I always strive to look like a total f**king bum.
1:11:24No, no... You have meme pics where you wear luxurious stuff.
1:11:28So I dress in luxury but people say what a f**king clown!
1:11:31But this does look silly. You dressed lavishly, spent all your money on it but without any taste for style.
1:11:37Well I told you that I had stopped chasing the brands. I wanted to assert myself.
1:11:44Yes I did have sneakers for almost 2 thousand f**king dollars. I wore clothes worth of 6 thousand, I must have been so cool.
1:11:57Your wristwatch should look lavish though.
1:11:59You know, I feel like I'm at this point where I really don't give a f**k,
1:12:04so that even watch doesn't mean anything to me. Expensive watches? So what? Couldn't care less.
1:12:08You used to brag about your watch, didn't you?
1:12:10Well, yes. But I haven't worn it in a year or 1.5 years now.
1:12:15Was it uncomfortable?
1:12:16Yeah, you can't really sleep, you have to put it on, take it off, clean it because it gets dirty.
1:12:24My first Rolex cost 2 million rubles.
1:12:26Then I purchased another one for 6 million and the most expensive one was for 50 million. I bought it in Dubai.
1:12:37Well I sold it for 20 to put a gambling deposit. Actually I sold all of them to cover gambling expenses.
1:12:41Since then zero f**ks have been given about them.
1:12:45It did boost my self confidence and all that but in the end I was like f**k this shit, it's not worth it.
1:12:50By the way, I understand now why you burned 50k dollars so easily back then.
1:13:00Yes.
1:13:01Because money doesn't mean anything to you. You will find a way to blow it anyway.
1:13:04I have completely forgotten about that until you reminded me of this.
1:13:06Yeah, I burned 50k dollars on stream back then, to hell with it!
1:13:12When did you realize you have to incorporate the shocking factor and provaction in your career?
1:13:19I think it was in 2018, slightly after
1:13:23the stripping story my friends and I had a beer party we streamed it.
1:13:29One thing led to another: we were offered to invite some girls over on our stream.
1:13:33We went to a club, met someone there and invited them over.
1:13:37Someone could flash their boobs, someone made some jokes, etc.
1:13:43It's just that everyone thinks I'm a trash streamer because people
1:13:46post higlight edits from 6 hour long streams. This is the issue.
1:13:51People automatically assume this happens all the time, every minute.
1:13:55But overall I did have some cool streams. We had good numbers for a reason.
1:14:00- Do you miss the time when you were in Moscow City? - Not really. It was fun and all that but...
1:14:04the time has passed and that's cool.
1:14:06What stream is the most memorable for you from that time?
1:14:09It was amazing to see 50-60 thousand online viewers for the first time.
1:14:12Also, you know what I remember?
1:14:14The stream with Edward Bil. That one is memorable.
1:14:15When I offered him 3 million rubles just to have a vodka shot, which wasn't typical for that time.
1:14:20I mean, just imagine, he was offered 3 million just to have a shot of vodka.
1:14:23He even took his time to think about it, he f**king called someone,
1:14:29discussed whether or not he should do it. This was a lot of fun.
1:14:32- Where did you find all the girls? - When we came to Moscow or even Saint Petersburg
1:14:36we would look for a person who would help us find the girls.
1:14:38Somewhat pimp, but not exactly. Just a person who has a lot of connections.
1:14:43Such person always invites the girls over. In Moscow we had two guys.
1:14:46When we first came to Moscow they would invite 4-5 girls, then 10.
1:14:52Over time we grew: more money, higher viewers count...
1:14:57parties got bigger, apartments got bigger.
1:15:00So there were 20, 30, 50, 100 and even 140 girls at the same time at our place.
1:15:08- Were they paid? - We didn't pay them money.
1:15:11- Did they come for free? - Yes, the alcohol, food and everything was free for them.
1:15:16Also at the time there were these baloons, you could notice them on streams.
1:15:19At least we had a strong principle on drug users.
1:15:23Once someone was seen doing some shady stuff like sniffing
1:15:25some shit or injesting drugs he was kicked out on the spot.
1:15:29If someone looked for weed or something else he got kicked out too.
1:15:36Believe me, it could have been a lot worse.
1:15:37Every time I launched my stream I thought to myself: please for God's sake don't let anyone die tonight.
1:15:41Were they okay with the fact that you brought over 50 or even 100 girls over?
1:15:44What about Moscow City's security post?
1:15:46We f**king tricked them. Sometimes they would enter from a back door.
1:15:50Each key card could be used 4 and more times. And last, but not least we just bribed them.
1:15:58Everyone knew where you streamed. So the Moscow-City owners didn't try to evict you somehow?
1:16:03They did. When my streams and popularity had blown up the streams were done.
1:16:08Well, this was even before slamming the girl's head on the table.
1:16:10Right before a week or two. They started to cut my lights off in the apartments and jam my Internet.
1:16:16They somehow were able to jam the Internet completely in the apartments.
1:16:20Moreover, a manger would come up to us and told us that we should leave.
1:16:25But they didn't have any legal base for that, you know?
1:16:28If only they had it they would evict us right at that moment and I would
1:16:32just jump from one tower to another, renting all the apartments for my streams.
1:16:37Why did you talk so much about sex during streams?
1:16:43- What do people want? - Bread and circuses.
1:16:46- Money, circus and lust. - So you were playing on people's basic needs and vices.
1:16:50Yes. It was drawing the most attention, moreover I also wanted to get laid.
1:16:54Just imagine, I'm a simple hillbilly from a small place
1:16:56all of a sudden I have 100 girls at my place.
1:16:59Not just some random girls, but the kind of girls that make you f**king stutter.
1:17:05That make you f**king drool. Of course you must not show this and keep it cool.
1:17:12So I was intersted in all of that and it was interesting for everyone else to watch.
1:17:17You know, a person like me should have appeared at some point anyway. A person who streams his parties.
1:17:22Yes, right now we're having more and more posers but they will never get anywhere close to me. I'm dead ass.
1:17:27- Did the girls fight for you? - You mean for my d**k? Yes.
1:17:31- You mean literally, a fight? - Of course.
1:17:32Not every girl was like that but it happened from time to time. I'm serious.
1:17:35The fact that you had so many girls over, did it infatuate you in any way?
1:17:39At first yes. Right now I'm used to it.
1:17:41It's because I'm not necessarily the most handsome guy on the planet,
1:17:44but at least I'm famous, I'm f**king rich. For most girls this is good enough.
1:17:49- So you buy them? - I don't buy them.
1:17:51But it's more than enough for them. They don't give a shit that I'm an ugly fat f**k.
1:17:57I mean as long as you can get hard and have money you're fine.
1:18:02What was the age of your audience? Children or adults mostly?
1:18:06By the way, I remember looking it up but I can't recall the f**king numbers. I think 6% were aged 35+.
1:18:13That was YouTube's stats. Around 40% were in between 18-24 and the rest were below 18.
1:18:20But hey, the nature of my content definitely wouldn't peak interest of a 10 year old.
1:18:25They woulnd't understand a f**king thing we were saying.
1:18:27Other than that, I think young adults aged 25-30 enjoyed it.
1:18:32A lot of people commented saying: "Ahh f**k what a nice party, I remembered youth thanks to you".
1:18:36- Did you regret anything later? - Yes, I regret a lot of stuff.
1:18:39- What exactly? - For example, when I slammed Alyona on the table.
1:18:44At the moment I realized that my anger issue took over me.
1:18:49I did something horribly wrong. I began to realize this.
1:18:53- When did you realize this? - I realized it literally in 10 minutes,
1:18:57by the moment when all of the social media public groups had posted about it.
1:18:58I was f**king shocked that I had done something terrible, that I was gonna have to answer to.
1:19:01You know, I thought someone might be waiting for me at my house with a knife and so on.
1:19:05- You mean avenging her? - Yes.
1:19:06In the end, everyone who came up to me said that: 'I would've hit her harder.'
1:19:10There was only one guy who said me that I had done something wrong.
1:19:13Only one person came up to me and told me that.
1:19:15- Who was it? - Some random dude came up to me in a club.
1:19:18He said: 'Hello. You do realize that you were wrong.
1:19:20You hit a girl and everything.
1:19:22Well, I agreed with him and I took full responsibility for that. To the full extent of the law.
1:19:26This was definitely a mistake, and I've learned from it. I haven't done anything like that since then.
1:19:30There were a couple of times when a girl hit me. She took my face and punched me somehow.
1:19:38I didn't even say a word to her or touched her because I knew that I need to keep it cool,
1:19:43I need to control my anger issus, nothing bad happened,
1:19:46she is drunk and stupid and it's her own fault that she punched me in the first place.
1:19:51So I learned the hard way how to control my f**king anger.
1:19:56I don't want to go to prison.
1:19:57I even promised myself that even if I was hit in my f**king face I shouldn't respond.
1:20:08People in the chat will write that if it was recored on camera,
1:20:11how I got punched in the face, I wouldn't do anything.
1:20:13They would write that I'm a f**knig doormat and shit but at least I would be safe and sound legally.
1:20:20This is more of a priority to me compared to being called a doormat.
1:20:25Why couldn't you handle your anger when you slammed the girl?
1:20:30There were a few reasons. I had lost a big amount of money gambling a day before that.
1:20:35I hadn't had enough sleep. I always try to get enough sleep.
1:20:39Sleeping schedule is the most important thing of them all for f**ks sake,
1:20:41and I had had a little bit of whiskey so I was tipsy. These are the reasons.
1:20:45On top of that, she provoked me by being under the influence of some kind of drug.
1:20:51She mentioned it on the stream, she said it was made from a cactus.
1:20:56It basically deactivates some kind of receptor in your brain and she didn't give a f**k about what I was telling her.
1:21:03She was only talking shit and insulting me. I guess these are the reasons.
1:21:15What is impulse? I showed her what impulse was. But listen, after that...
1:21:23- Not a good reason to be proud of. - At least we had a physics class 101.
1:21:26By the way, we met up later and there was actually a second stream with her.
1:21:29I gave her 800 000 rubles and we reconciled. Truly reconciled.
1:21:32There was another moment, by the way this was f**king insane come to think of it.
1:21:36I don't think I told anyone about this on my streams.
1:21:38I think a day before reconciling stream we met up without any cameras.
1:21:41We had a conversation, we talked about everything.
1:21:44Eventually we got shitfaced with some f**king tincture and made out.
1:21:51- Made out? - Yes, we kissed. Of all f**king things, this is insane.
1:21:57- Turns out, if he beats you, he loves you? - I mean I think it's the f**king alcohol.
1:22:00Either way, I think she is not mad at me anymore even deep inside. We managed to settle this one.
1:22:06Let's reconstruct that night, what was it like? After the stream.
1:22:13She runs out to the elevator, goes downstairs where the hall was, sees two or three of her girls,
1:22:20runs outside at first then comes back, and she was waiting in that hall for the ambulance
1:22:26because she started yelling as if I broke all of her f**king teeth, her f**king jaw or something.
1:22:33And I was f**king shocked, how much she lied back then.
1:22:38The thing was I just slammed her forehead, literally a slight push with my arm on the table.
1:22:48I was thinking this would teach her a lesson.
1:22:49So that she would finally start thinking straight.
1:22:51The litigation took 1.5 years. I'm serious, 1.5 f**king years.
1:22:56I will remember this forever. It was so f**king stressful.
1:23:00During the court hearings the judge, prosecutor and I watched the full 40 minute video about this shit.
1:23:06Just imagine, I knew that I had done something wrong and I regret that because I had lost self control and etc.
1:23:12Picture this: the judge, prosecutors with lawyers on both sides.
1:23:17All of us are watching in a complete silence at full volume my profanity after every other word.
1:23:28During one of the court sessions there was a medical examiner,
1:23:31well, not the coroner, just some expert, who checked her physical condition
1:23:36and concluded that she hadn't experienced any traumas or fractures but a mere physical pain.
1:23:49Meaning I didn't bribe anyone. It was her doctor that concluded that.
1:23:55No fractures, no broken teeth, absolutely nothing.
1:23:58- I think she was also traumatized emotionally. - That was her narrative.
1:24:05She said she became crazy after that and that she started doing f**kings drugs because of what had happened.
1:24:09Nobody believed her, that's all.
1:24:10- Did you think this could ruin your career completely? - Yes, I did.
1:24:13But a lot of people actually praised me for that, so only 10 year old girls write in the comments
1:24:22that I'm a f**king idiot, but no one gives a f**k.
1:24:23- Who praised you? - Someone did.
1:24:25Some accounts, guys, girls, I don't even f**king know.
1:24:27Maybe it was me who read those comments. I can't say it was only positive.
1:24:33There was a lot of negativity too, but even some girls said that she would've hit her harder.
1:24:39It's a f**king absurdity. Clearly you can't control your anger issues,
1:24:43there were prior issues because you had lost you were drunk and hadn't slept.
1:24:48But these are your f**king problems, aren't they?
1:24:51- Why? - Whose then?
1:24:52I completely agree with the fact that I was wrong. I just explained what other people think.
1:24:55In their mentality, say a guy from Sakhalin or Khabarovsk or Chita sees that a girl is insulting a guy like this.
1:25:05To him that is crossing the line and he would immediately one-punched her.
1:25:09But I just slammed her head on the table. I understand that I was wrong.
1:25:14It's just that there is a second opinion that there are guys who
1:25:19will not tolerate a verbal insult from a girl, let alone raising their hands.
1:25:26- And that makes me sad. - Nobody gives a f**k.
1:25:30- That's just my opinion. - Nobody gives a f**k about your sad opinion, you know?
1:25:34- I do. - I mean that's the harsh f**king reality.
1:25:37The world is f**king huge and diverse. There are different people, different opinions.
1:25:43What opinion could there possibly be? What you did was horrid and vile.
1:25:46Indeed f**king horrid. Will you stop throwing a tantrum about it already?
1:25:49It seems like you're having a lot of fun, what's so funny?
1:25:51The fact that everything is f**king over.
1:25:53The fact that everything is great, no one was hurt, no one has suffered any psychotraumas after that shit.
1:25:59Just slammed her and that's all. It took me two f**king years to take responsibility for that.
1:26:031.5-2 years. I was in the court sessions, I paid her a lot of money, I apologized in the court.
1:26:07I learned my lesson. That's all. The crowd can hate me for that shit.
1:26:11But it doesn't matter because I can make the tables turn anyway.
1:26:14If I go feed a stray cat everyone will write that I am a saint.
1:26:18Why did she decide to come back and reconnect with you on your stream for the second time?
1:26:20Because I can be persuasive. Just like you, for f**ks sake.
1:26:23Maybe I persuaded her somehow for the second time, I don't know.
1:26:27She came after all. Perhaps, it was Stockholm syndrome, I don't even f**king know anymore.
1:26:32What is it like to do public service for 6 months?
1:26:35What is it like? I guess you could call it some kind of discipline.
1:26:38I mean, what kind? My f**king kind. It was my discipline all along.
1:26:43- Did you do public service? - Listen...
1:26:49I don't want to talk about this anymore, let's just skip this f**king topic.
1:26:53Oh, that freak, this is a neighbour.
1:26:56This is mom's dog, named Tewa, he is such a freak, it's f**king hilarious.
1:27:00- Yours? - Huh?
1:27:02- Your mom's dog? - A good doggo.
1:27:05I personally find him so funny because he is so f**king silly.
1:27:08What's so f**king silly about him? Look at him, he is being curious.
1:27:11- Such a sniffer. - You're a sniffer.
1:27:14You're a shaggy animal, you came to hang out with us? What a cool dog.
1:27:22So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:23- Okay, next topic of our conversation is Booster. - Come to daddy, little boy.
1:27:28So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:29And your conflict. How did all start?
1:27:31So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:31It stared with absolutely nothing, it was just a joke.
1:27:33So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:33I don't have any beef with him personally, I just f**ked with him a little to see his reaction.
1:27:39Why was it so important for you to make Dilara and him listen to Morgenstern's song?
1:27:45So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:51I saw this in the chat, someone commented that they should listen to Morgenstern's song.
1:27:56So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:27:56It just happened that Dilara is Morgenstern's ex and current Booster's girlfriend,
1:28:01so I thought it would be hilarious to make him some kind of a cuckold in a way.
1:28:03So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:03It was just a joke, not the most offensive one.
1:28:06So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:06Wait, it's not exactly pleasant when someone exposes you as a cuckold, especially if you aren't one.
1:28:12So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:12- Well, he proved that he wasn't a cuckold. - He did.
1:28:15So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:16- He proved it, he showed his pride. - He is a great guy, isn't he?
1:28:19So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:19Because of the fact that he refused 5 million for listening to one song?
1:28:22So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:22- Yes. - Well, in fact I agree, no cap. He did a great job.
1:28:26So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:27After that you offered him to play CS GO and winner gets Dilara. That's an absurdity.
1:28:31I launched a gaming stream and everyone was asking about Dilara and such.
1:28:34So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:35I also thought it was funny, why would you cry about it? Let's just play, winner gets Dilara and that's all.
1:28:38So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:39He took it very personal and decided to be a knight in a f**king armor defending a woman, a battle c**k.
1:28:43So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:43Wait, do you really think he should have played?
1:28:45So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:45He should have ignored it or laugh a bit like we all did.
1:28:47So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:47Either laugh or just say that Mellstroy
1:28:49So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:49is a f**king idiot haha or just ignore it completely.
1:28:51So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:51- Would you play if someone offered? - Of course, there is nothing scary about it.
1:28:55So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:28:56I am a streamer I can pretend that my bet was a girl.
1:29:01So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:29:01- Do you like Dilara? - Do you know how it all started? I was in Mauritius.
1:29:05So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:29:05I was streaming and I told everyone I had had a dream about Dilara.
1:29:12So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:29:12For some reason everyone thought I fell in love with her for f**ks sake.
1:29:16So I was talking about it on my stream and then it grew into something bigger.
1:29:21Speaking of her beauty, you know, no cap but you should never judge someone's beauty.
1:29:38- She is conventionally attractive, that should be obvious. - Well yeah, could be, could be.
1:29:43- Don't you agree? - I really don't have a sense of beauty or aesthetics.
1:29:47I could answer only if you compared her to someone.
1:29:50I don't think we should compare her to anyone.
1:29:53My type is a big ass, hers is completely flat which I don't like.
1:29:58For me beauty is not even in the face, it's about the curves, the shape.
1:30:02I could probably date a f**king crocodile if it had the curves and ideal shape.
1:30:06- So the beauty is in the ass? - In the curves, I love ass.
1:30:10- What type of girls do you like? - She has to have a long tongue.
1:30:14Physically it has to be long. For me that's aesthetically pleasing.
1:30:19Moreover the blowjobs are top f**king notch. Also, if she has naturally big boobs that's also f**king hot.
1:30:28So if she has big ass, big tits but at the same time narrow waist this is just insane. I really like curves.
1:30:37- But I like ass the most. - What about her face, her nose, eyes and eyebrows?
1:30:41Well the last time I liked a girl she looked like a f**king fox. Her face reminded me of a fox.
1:30:49- A fox? - Yes, a fox from the f**king forest.
1:30:53So it was a lot of fun. But generally speaking, I really don't care about the face all that much.
1:30:58- Don't you see any beauty in the face? - I don't care what her face looks like.
1:31:01I wouldn't date top models who participated in miss Moscow, miss Khabarovsk or some shit.
1:31:10The competition is still fierce out there. I wouldn't want to be jealous all the time.
1:31:17Bro, what competition? Your net worth is almost 100 million.
1:31:20Don't blow smoke up my ass.
1:31:22What about your threats to Booster? It came to that, didn't it?
1:31:25Well yeah but I didn't really mean it. I was emotional and overreacted.
1:31:32But threats to Booster? That's f**king absurd.
1:31:33All we did was jabbing at each other and goofing around on the Internet, that's all.
1:31:38That was my fault and a mistake on my part.
1:31:40- You were wrong? - Absolutely.
1:31:41Sounds like a good reason to apologize for?
1:31:42Once again you brought up that word for f**k's sake.
1:31:45- Let me admit I was wrong. - Good.
1:31:49You're so f**king annoying. By the end of this interview I will have
1:31:54apologized to everyone, to every single person I have wronged.
1:31:55You also said that Booster betrayed streaming when he started dating Dilara.
1:32:01Yes.
1:32:01So he used to be a colonel Boosterenko and now it's all gone?
1:32:07- He is a general Cuckoldini now. - Why do you think so?
1:32:10I'm just joking. Even his audience is making jabs at him
1:32:13by calling him a Colonel Highheel. Look, before that he had been groovy and all that,
1:32:20he had been streaming and after that, well, I think I understand where he is coming from.
1:32:25Some shit may have happened, maybe he also became apathetic and doesn't strive for a goal anymore.
1:32:28He also reached 200 000 online viewers and that could cause his burnout.
1:32:32He makes some money and he has streamed enough maybe it's time for him
1:32:36to take care of his personal life, if that's the case I totally understand him now.
1:32:40I wouldn't criticize him for that. I just want to f**k with him sometimes
1:32:45by calling him cuckoldini, or a high heel, you know.
1:32:48It's just that you said one interesting phrase, that you, unlike him, was going to make it until the end.
1:32:54- Yes. - What did you mean?
1:32:55To become the biggest Russian speaking streamer, with biggest views, biggest audience.
1:33:06I want this to last. Not just for a brief moment like I did 4 months ago, but keep the bar high.
1:33:16I just realized that I won't have any personal life, I can't really date a girl.
1:33:20I'm a f**king idiot so I chose this life myself. I opted for career instead.
1:33:22- How long do you want to be the first one? - At least a couple of years.
1:33:25In that state of mind which I had 4 months ago, when I was everywhere,
1:33:28if only I could last like this for a couple of years, I would retire happily.
1:33:34It's just that everything would have been done by then:
1:33:36I wouldn't owe any money to my editors, my audience would've received all the emotions, etc.
1:33:45- What makes you think you won't burn out? - I have been.
1:33:48I'm doing this for my audience and eventually I will still be unhappy.
1:33:54Even if I'm loaded with money, zero f**king difference.
1:33:55But at least when I die even haters will remember all of the things I had done.
1:34:01Do you think Booster was a role model at some point?
1:34:05Look, if we refrain from 80% of his jokes about him sucking a c**k then yes.
1:34:13He promotes family values, respect your parents. He doesn't drink.
1:34:19I guess I envied him a little that he is so passionate even without any alcohol.
1:34:22But hey, as it turned out, he had been taking antidepressants.
1:34:26I don't know exactly how they work and affect you but this could alter your consciousness after all.
1:34:30I was somewhat happy for him and I wish I could do the same, being completely sober.
1:34:36Hang out with girls and entertain my audience with cheerful content which he did back then.
1:34:41I think that version of Booster resonated with you because much like you,
1:34:47he was loud, provocative and even toxic at times. He spat on his girlfriend once for example.
1:34:57Now he has built his business from scratch, he has healthy relationship
1:35:01and he even looks happier. I think deep inside you want that too but can't for some reason.
1:35:11I think so, yeah. I wish I had a normal life. Abso-f**king-lutely.
1:35:15I want to be able to go outside without any bodyguards.
1:35:18I want to be able to go for a walk with a girl or to fall in love with someone for f**ks sake.
1:35:25Have some free time for myself, you know. This would be great.
1:35:32But I can't. Lately I've been a slave to my bad habits ' alcohol and another one.
1:35:42Actually, no, I have 3 bad habits in total.
1:35:44- What are they? - Smoking hookah, alcohol and nitrous oxide, balloons.
1:35:50- Balloons? - Oh geez, I condemn this shit.
1:35:52Nevertheless, I'm doing it for now. Remember the voice memos where I was crying?
1:36:07This was because I had been high on the balloons.
1:36:10It completely f**ks with your brain, alters your consciousness.
1:36:13Consdering everything I mentioned earlier, your attacks on Slava
1:36:20is your grudge that he was able to make it, to live a normal life?
1:36:24Isn't this my job after all?
1:36:26To provoke someone, plotting people against each other, start drama, make friends, etc.
1:36:34Litvin is very well known too.
1:36:36Then you had some kind of beef with Morgenstern, who is also big.
1:36:39So you're saying that I'm envying Litvin because he is dating a great woman Adel,
1:36:46and I'm envying Booster because he is dating Dilara?
1:36:48Well all of these guys have personal life, just sayin'.
1:36:51- Yes, except for me. - Except for you.
1:36:53If you talk about envy, your imply that I'm envious. I think it's really cool and I want to have a life like that too.
1:36:59But it's as if I understand that I set my bar a little bit higher and I have different goals.
1:37:04I guess I just think that I'm very impulsive so this will affect my relationship a lot.
1:37:12- Why do you always talk about someone else's girls? - Y'all are so f**king annoying.
1:37:17I'm just spitting facts here. Dilara, Liza, Adel.
1:37:21I also remember that you said earlier that you had bothered Igor's girlfriend, if you recall it.
1:37:29That also happened. I mean you have this desire for someone else's girls.
1:37:39You wanna f**king know why? It's probably because I got tired
1:37:41of f**king regular girls and now I want something more complex, like a challenge?
1:37:44- I don't know. - Yes, that could be the reason.
1:37:46Or just to get some hype over it. The hype over Igor's situation was pretty f**king successful I'd say.
1:37:50Seriously though, how come I was able to insult 4 different girls over the course of one year?
1:38:01Perhaps, it's because I understand that this is
1:38:03a weak spot for a lot of guys, they get provoked easily.
1:38:06Psychologically speaking, when you try to f**k with somebody's girl
1:38:12you're subconsciously trying to assert dominance over them.
1:38:14Maybe I have subconscious fetish to expose someone as a cuckold.
1:38:21Or just to prove one more time that money talks.
1:38:24- So you mean that you can buy any woman? - No, not every person can be bought.
1:38:29So have you seen any reverse examples when you tried to conquer some girl's with your money and she said no?
1:38:39Yes. You know, when I was fed up with all the small talk about how she was doing,
1:38:47what she did 2 years ago whether she studied or worked.
1:38:55I did try to ask someone if I could just f**king pay them 6000$ to sleep with them
1:39:02and she was like go f**k yourself. Which is understandable.
1:39:04You need a special approach.
1:39:05The right approach and required amount can open a lot of doors.
1:39:11Let's talk about girls who you tried to flirt with publically. For example, Amina.
1:39:17I wanted to gift her a Bentley just because she had helped me to get to millions of views.
1:39:27But in the end all of this was kinda fake.
1:39:32I mean I only once or twice donated some money and that's all.
1:39:35Seeing all that she increased my views and I wanted to pay her back by purchasing her a Bentley.
1:39:38I wrote her on Instagram but she never responded so I thought okay whatever.
1:39:42- Okay. What about Alla Bruletova? - Oh f**k.
1:39:44Now that's a surprise. Hold on, I have to get my shit together and concetrate.
1:39:47- Why? - Because I know what you're gonna ask.
1:39:51- As I get it, you promised her Lambo Urus, am I right? - No, I did not.
1:39:57- Who did then? - Yura did on my behalf.
1:40:04He promised it because I had asked how much he charged for Urus.
1:40:08I told him I had been thinking about buying it for Bruletova.
1:40:09I just wrote this and he immediately took it as if I was gonna buy it for sure.
1:40:16But I was only asking about the price tag, that's all.
1:40:19Yura told me that someone from your team had sent him 1 million as a prepayment.
1:40:27It wasn't like that.
1:40:29I was hanging out with a guy, he came from Moscow. He told me:
1:40:32'I can bring any girl to hang out with, just tell me a name, which one?'.
1:40:36I was like: 'No way, you're full of shit. Go ahead and try bringing Alla Bruletova here'.
1:40:39At the moment I was talking to her already. He replied: 'Easily, wanna bet?'
1:40:45I said: 'Yes, let's bet 20 million if she comes here in the next 15 days and steps inside
1:40:50my house here in Turkey, I will give you 20 f**king million'.
1:40:55Eventually she came on her own. I didn't even have to invite her over.
1:41:01I gave him 20 million.
1:41:02- Wait, she came over to your place? - Yes.
1:41:05She wrote me. She sent me a picture from my hotel. I was like what the actual f**k.
1:41:10That can't be f**king happening. And she said: 'I'm here'. So...
1:41:14- So you met up for a coffee. - We met up and had a few drinks.
1:41:18- And that was about it. - So there was no romance?
1:41:21Listen, we only had a good conversation. We laid on the grass enjoying the sun and ourselves.
1:41:26Chatted about stuff. And that's all.
1:41:29Look, I've heard different story. You wanted to see her.
1:41:33So you or someone else offered to buy her an Urus.
1:41:36Buy it from Yura. There was a 1 million prepayment.
1:41:41That guy, whom I gave 20 million, he was the one to send the prepayment.
1:41:43And you didn't send the rest of the money due to different excuses.
1:41:46She had a lot of doubts whether or not she should come to Turkey.
1:41:49In the end she decided to come because she wanted the Urus after all.
1:41:53But I didn't promise her an Urus. I didn't make that promise.
1:41:55- So she was kind of f**ked over in all of the scheming. - Yeah.
1:41:58No, the guy's responsibility was to bring her in my house at any cost within 15 days.
1:42:06What he had promised her is none of my f**king business.
1:42:10You know, the funny thing is that she came here anyway.
1:42:13I didn't come to her, she came to me. She had never seen me before and she was low key scared.
1:42:16Do you f**king get it? Yes, it cost me 20 million.
1:42:20I don't give a f**k. It's just that..
1:42:22..it proves that in the end I was right.
1:42:26The only thing that shocked me the most..
1:42:31..was Alex Lesley's video.
1:42:34One of my students I haven't talked to in a while,
1:42:37He texted me: “Mellstroy wants you to fly to him.”
1:42:40I'm f**ked up about this.
1:42:42Who came to Turkey. He did a break down on you.
1:42:47Should I mention the circumstances over his visit?
1:42:50Of course.
1:42:51The guy whom I had the bet with,
1:42:53he also proposed to invite Alex Lesley so that it would be more fun to hang out together.
1:43:01I said, okay sure. So I sent this guy 30 000$..
1:43:05..for him to just come here for a few days to party with us.
1:43:09It just so happened that by the time he came I had gone to Moscow, on the same day.
1:43:14What did he say in the video?
1:43:15He said that you went to Moscow because you had fallen in love with someone.
1:43:19That was his first statement.
1:43:21He acted as if he was consulting you on how to behave when you're in love.
1:43:25His next thought was that you were afraid of women..
1:43:31..whom you really like.
1:43:33How did he conclude that?
1:43:34It's just that I had never seen him before, we hadn't even talked.
1:43:37Moreover, he hadn't seen me talking to anyone in front of him.
1:43:41Alex Lesley said that he had a lot of..
1:43:45..girls whom he knows, he calls them his "agents".
1:43:49Ahhhh f**k!
1:43:52Anyway, he completely missed every point, except, maybe for one little detail.
1:43:55What detail?
1:43:56In Moscow-city.
1:43:57I deliberately didn't want to fall in love with anyone or have any relationship.
1:44:01Because I was busy with my career at the time.
1:44:04What has changed?
1:44:05I'm sure something has changed.
1:44:06I don't have a strong opinion on that anymore.
1:44:08If I liked some girl, I would definitely talk to her about everything,
1:44:10I would probably still gamble though.
1:44:12Let's reiterate. You didn't fall head over heels for Bruletova?
1:44:15No. Not at all. She does look cute and beautiful, but no.
1:44:24Okay, name me top 3 most beautiful girls in post soviet countries.
1:44:29Oh geez.
1:44:30What does your heart tell you?
1:44:31My heart? Nothing really. I mean..
1:44:34So you can't really name them?
1:44:35I can't think of anyone.
1:44:36In my opinion Bruletova is beautiful.
1:44:40I just don't like her body.
1:44:41My type is more curvy, but her face is definitely outstanding.
1:44:47If you had an opportunity to spend a night with any woman in the world, who would you choose?
1:44:53I would choose Savannah Bond but... Ryan Garcia is f**king her already.
1:44:59I think I would pick an African woman with a thick ass.
1:45:02I don't know, I think I would bring her over from Africa.
1:45:06They have insane genetics.
1:45:09You like that?
1:45:09Yes, I really like curves.
1:45:15Such a your luxurious bath tub.
1:45:17Listen, I have never even used it. I guess it has jacuzzi bubbles and everything
1:45:23Do you like using bath tubs at all?
1:45:25Right now not really. I just shower couple times a week.
1:45:30An interesting observation: for the first time we're conducting an interview in such a limited space.
1:45:36That's how it should be. I spend here 90% of my time.
1:45:42Do you feel like this is your home?
1:45:44You get used to it but I'm sick and tired of moving all the time.
1:45:46I really want my own place. As if I'm a f**king homeless.
1:45:50So you're not really putting effort into building a nest here. You set up your working environment.
1:45:54And that's all, yes.
1:45:56I just go to bed, put the clothes on my bed and that's literally it.
1:46:01I don't give a f**k about clothes or any cosiness.
1:46:04This suite has a massage room with Turkish sauna and hamam.
1:46:08These are the massage tables, you lay on them so you can gamble while you're getting a massage.
1:46:11Do you know what else is nice here?
1:46:13I don't have to go anywhere, I don't have to go to spa places, my suite has it all.
1:46:17You wanna know how it goes? First you lay here for a massage.
1:46:20After that you go to Hamam.
1:46:22Just to warm yourself up a little. After you're warm enough you..
1:46:25..go to Turkish sauna.
1:46:28She lays you, wraps you around with that hot foam.
1:46:35After that she washes you. This feels very nice, by the way.
1:46:38Listen, I have a spontaneous question.
1:46:40Ask away.
1:46:41What is love for you?
1:46:43What is love for me?
1:46:44How do you understand this word?
1:46:46I understand this word..I guess..
1:46:49When you accept the other person completely
1:46:51with all their flaws and you don't see anything bad in him.
1:46:54At all.
1:46:55Well, on top of that, there has to be some kind of affection or attachment.
1:46:57Complete acceptance?
1:46:58Absolutely. The way the person is. Yes. That's the love, I think.
1:47:07Have you considered a possibility of relationship?
1:47:10With one girl that will make you happy?
1:47:13Of course I have, why not.
1:47:14If we talk about your dream girl,
1:47:17apart from her appearance and looks,
1:47:20just her personality traits and features.
1:47:23What kind of person would that be?
1:47:25She has to really like me. Truly.
1:47:28I think this personality trait would be amazing.
1:47:31That's for starters.
1:47:32Second of all, she must not burp or fart in front of me.
1:47:38Never.
1:47:38Are you allowed to fart or burp?
1:47:39No, I wouldn't do that in front of her either.
1:47:41I would walk away..
1:47:43It's because I would never be able to get hard again if she farted.
1:47:46I've had this experience before.
1:47:48She has to be kind, honest, straightforward.
1:47:52The kind of person that can spend..
1:47:56..spend a whole month with me at home or party all the time.
1:47:59Well, not necessarily nonstop but..
1:48:03Nonstop partying with you? She'd become an alcoholic really fast.
1:48:05In a nutshell, I would want her to be able to spend a whole month at home with me
1:48:06playing some f**king video games
1:48:08Or we could go to gym every single day 3 f**king times.
1:48:11She just has to be there for me, with me, at all times. She has to support all of that. That's cool.
1:48:14Why do you surround yourself with semi-escort women?
1:48:19As far as I know, these are not escort women.
1:48:21They don't have profiles or agencies.
1:48:23These are regular girls whom someone met on the streets of Moscow,
1:48:27got their numbers, invited them to one of our parties.
1:48:30She came to party and she was offered to travel a little and have some fun.
1:48:36On top of that, I'm being generous here with them financially.
1:48:41I compensate their monthly expenses.
1:48:43How much are you paying them?
1:48:44Well, 5 thousand dollars.
1:48:45Right now you have 12 girls here.
1:48:46Yes. On top of that, no one is f**king obliged to have sex with me.
1:48:51I don't know if I'm f**king frigid but I only have sex around once a month.
1:48:58People here come to have fun, to chill. They don't even work.
1:49:04They just enjoy themselves.
1:49:06They go to the beach, they go to the gym.
1:49:08I assume they won't even make the same amount working in Moscow.
1:49:11Imagine getting paid 450 000 rubles just for being here around me or for walking around.
1:49:16Sometimes when I drink I can text them to see if they want to join me.
1:49:19So now I have a company. It's a lot more fun to drink with the girls.
1:49:23Moreover, we have a routine here. Girls come here for 4-5 months.
1:49:29Then they leave, the new ones come and so on.
1:49:31It's just that some girls when they come here they think that I would be dating them when in reality that's not the case.
1:49:36And that's all. They realize they're wasting their time or maybe not.. Anyway, easy come easy go.
1:49:45Listen, why do you get close with them so rarely?
1:49:49You mean why I f**k them so rarely?
1:49:51Yes, I wanted to sugarcoat it.
1:49:54Don't you find them sexually appealing?
1:49:57I mean they are pretty but I don't really have huge desire.
1:50:01I don't have huge sex drive.
1:50:04Is it because you have been apathetic?
1:50:05Listen, it's probably beause I'm always stressed the f**k out.
1:50:08Cortisol affects everything.
1:50:11A lot of girls may think they have to s**k my d**k as soon as they come here.
1:50:16This shit never happens here.
1:50:20You rejected Morgenstern's friendship but at the same time you showed interest in being friends with Khovansky.
1:50:25I only offered to invite him on a stream.
1:50:26Alright. But it's not the first time you speak highly of him.
1:50:30Yes. Even though he made those exposing videos about me if you remember them.
1:50:34It did happen. But in our interview he said it was..
1:50:40It was, but it's gone now.
1:50:41After some donation.
1:50:42Listen, that's the whole point. I really don't have any beef with him.
1:50:45The guy literally hated me, he exposed me.
1:50:49But instead I decided to invite him on my stream, meet up with him and talk.
1:50:54I would invite a few girls over, we would all hang out together.
1:50:56I think the audience would love that.
1:50:58Good collaboration.
1:50:59In our interview Yura tried to promote the idea
1:51:02that you should purchase a vineyard and make him your manager.
1:51:06Have you considered this idea?
1:51:09I have but I don't have any opportunities at the moment.
1:51:12If I had some spare money I would do it.
1:51:15This would be hilarious, I'm sure our audience would appreciate it.
1:51:16He also said that you should invest your money because...
1:51:21your fame is not permanent and it's not guaranteed, otherwise you'll end up blowing all of your money.
1:51:30Well not exactly a prophet, I think it was pretty obvious for everyone.
1:51:33Because you have debts but no vineyard.
1:51:36I don't have any money either.
1:51:37True.
1:51:38Yeah, no money either.
1:51:41Jesus f**king Christ, this should be obvious for everyone...
1:51:44that gambler always ends up losing everything and in debts.
1:51:51Do you think that all of your problems are because of gambling?
1:51:57Most of them, yes, I think.
1:52:00It's because I've been gambling in online casinos since I was 17-18.
1:52:06Before that I had been gambling on different CS:GO websites where you can bet different skins.
1:52:15You spin the wheel and you get a chance to win all of the skins that had been bet.
1:52:19I remember I played CS:GO once, I had won a case whose worth was 60 cents.
1:52:28I bet this case on the website and at the very last second someone bet M-4 knight, as I remember.
1:52:37It cost 360 dollars at the time.
1:52:40Is this some kind of a rare skin?
1:52:42It was somewhat rare, rare item in CS:GO.
1:52:45Well, 360 dollars for me at the time was pretty big.
1:52:49The thing is that I had my case whose worth was 60 cents up against this super rare item.
1:52:54Do you realize that my chance to win was 0.1 and his was 99.8?
1:53:02So as the wheel was spinning all I could see was his profile picture.
1:53:07And when the f*****g wheel was slowing down my picture showed up and it stopped right there.
1:53:12So my bet was this 60 cent case against 360 dollar M-4 and I won.
1:53:20I got this rare item.
1:53:22I even jumped off of my chair andI called my best friend to tell him that I had just got rich.
1:53:29So you were ecstatic?
1:53:31I was all over. It was more than just euphoric.
1:53:34Your strongest emotion so far?
1:53:36At that point in my life, yes, I think so.
1:53:37I was 14 at the time, too.
1:53:40So as you may have guessed I wanted to experience the same emotions again.
1:53:45I started betting skins, started betting on sports events, and then boom, years go by.
1:53:50I'm 17 or 18 and my friends decided to introduce me to casino, and that's how it all began.
1:53:57Just so you and the audience understand my path.
1:54:02Most of my problems are because of gambling.
1:54:04I don't go outside because I'm a hermit and I enjoy it.
1:54:09I don't want to work, I don't want to see anyone, I don't want anything.
1:54:15When you lose all your money gambling and get into debts at that moment
1:54:19all you want to do is just eat something, then go to sleep and never wake up.
1:54:22Looking back, don't you curse that skin?
1:54:24What a f*****g question.
1:54:27Do I curse that f**king skin?
1:54:28If I can get my shit together again then no, I don't.
1:54:30What if you can't?
1:54:31You still up to this moment haven't been able to..
1:54:33..for now, yes. If I can't, then so be it.
1:54:37Honestly, I don't really want to change anything about my life, everything was fine, I'd say perfect
1:54:42I can only exist in that reality now.
1:54:45When did you first realize you had a gambling addiction?
1:54:48I was streaming at the time.
1:54:50I bet 500 000 rubles on a bet that had fifty-fifty chance, t was either red or blue. I bet on red and I lost.
1:54:56It took me few weeks to save up this half a million rubles and when I blew it
1:55:04well a friend of mine sat on this chair and they were not letting me go.
1:55:09I wanted to leave the place, I had collected all of my stuff together I mean my shoes and clothes.
1:55:13I was ready to leave, I think it was night time and it was raining.
1:55:15They were not letting me go so I took a f**king knife and I stabbed the f**king chair my friend was sitting on.
1:55:21They got f**king scared. In the end, it was my friend's brother.
1:55:25There were two of them.
1:55:27Did it happen in Belarus?
1:55:28Yes it did.
1:55:29Anyway, I somehow made them leave the apartment just to look at some shit and I closed the f*****g door.
1:55:34They didn't even have their shoes on and it was raining outside.
1:55:36I left the apartment in a secret way and I f*****g ran away.
1:55:40Came back only after two days.
1:55:42I told everyone I had been sleeping in the woods
1:55:43when in reality I went to my grandmother, spent a night
1:55:49and only then went into the woods.
1:55:51I was thinking about everything, about my life, etc.
1:55:53Well, my main point was that gambling leads to all of this shit and it is f*****g horrible.
1:55:57I didn't even understand how I was capable of such horrible things.
1:56:00It is really scary to overburden your nervous system like that.
1:56:04I was thinking about cutting everyone off.
1:56:09I didn't really have a reason to do that but my logic was if everyone talks to me just
1:56:13because I have money then it is my duty to stop being friends with them first.
1:56:18How were you able to hustle this 500 000 rubles?
1:56:20Donations.
1:56:21I was streaming every day at the time.
1:56:23For 300 rubles I would drink a shot of vodka.
1:56:26Just imagine how many shots of vodka I had to take.
1:56:32I can only imagine.
1:56:35Well not just me, there were a lot of people who helped.
1:56:40What do you feel in general, when you win?
1:56:42What can you compare it to?
1:56:44I haven't received any emotions from anything else for so long so I don't even know what I can compare it to.
1:56:48I guess you can compare it to a sex with a girl of you dreams who has an amazing body.
1:56:59Do you meet them quite often? Girls of your dreams?
1:57:03I mean, 4-5 years ago probably yes.
1:57:06Can you say that when you win in gambling it hits stronger than any orgasm?
1:57:09It depends on the amount of money
1:57:11I mean if you go and jerk off or win 10 million bucks, I suppose I'd choose 10 million bucks any day of the week.
1:57:14What do you feel when you lose big amount?
1:57:17You become severely apathetic, you don't want to do anything,
1:57:23you don't want to see anyone, you don't even want to to have any pleasure.
1:57:29So if I lose big money and the hottest girl on the planet comes up and says let's go for a walk
1:57:35I'd say just go f**k yourself. Literally.
1:57:37It's so f*****g horrible that it blocks me from being able to have pleasure in life.
1:57:48Hence the alcohol, hookah, balloons…
1:57:51Why can't you just stop?
1:57:55Well, you know as they say, everyone is chasing his first time.
1:58:00Perhaps I still remember the emotions from winning that M-4 for 360 dollars
1:58:05and I can't stop because I want to get even more emotions from this game.
1:58:10So I put 100 thousand dollars on a deposit, then 10 minutes later I see 600 thousand on my wallet.
1:58:13Subconsciously I think that I need to withdraw the money until it's too late.
1:58:18But at the same time I haven't received enough emotions yet.
1:58:23I need to play a little bit more so I can increase my bank account even more.
1:58:25Eventually I end up losing f*****g everything.
1:58:28Same f*****g thing every single time. Over and over again.
1:58:34What was the biggest amount you lost?
1:58:37I believe somewhere in between 6 or 5 million dollars within one day.
1:58:47What about your biggest win so far?
1:58:48I won 10.5 million once.
1:58:5010.5
1:58:51When you won 10.5, did you have the same emotions when you won your first 360 dollars?
1:58:57No, not at all. Those 360 were the best, they were a lot more emotional compared to 10.5 million.
1:59:07- So is it impossible to replicate? - I think it's the same as with drugs, yeah.
1:59:12Every drug user is striving for that first time.
1:59:16Everyone wants to replicate the first time but in chasing that they reach rock bottom.
1:59:22I understand that logic. I personally can attest that gambling is a real addiction.
1:59:32You know one the thing about gambling? You want it all the f**king time.
1:59:38When you go outside and you think: 'Should I bet a little? Or should I launch a stream and play a little?'
1:59:44You can't even focus on enjoying the nature anymore.
1:59:48I don't give a f**k if the sunset is beautiful today, my f**king bet is on.
1:59:52- So the craving is constant? - I'd say yes.
1:59:55I'm not craving for it when I have played a lot, for 5 hours and won a lot of money.
2:00:00Then I don't want it for the next 5-10 hours at least
2:00:05I go to sleep, wake up, eat
2:00:08and then it starts all over again.
2:00:10I can do without gambling 2-3 days at most and then I fall into the trap again
2:00:14Everything I have won...
2:00:15I deposit and I f**king lose.
2:00:17Online casinos sponsor you and they provide you with big money
2:00:19but you're their perfect client because you...
2:00:22Bring everything back?
2:00:22Not only bring everything back
2:00:23but also you promote them mostly for free
2:00:26I guess so
2:00:28At least some of it I reinvested back into the business,
2:00:30my personal development like rewards for the challenges..
2:00:32tik tok payments,
2:00:33even for myself
2:00:35I even managed to purchase some cars.
2:00:36I mean, it's like...
2:00:38Well, somehow, I guess there's something at least.
2:00:40It's not like...
2:00:41It's not like I lose everything that I gained.
2:00:45I'd say I give back a good 70%.
2:00:48Do you consider yourself a gambling hostage?
2:00:49Absolutely
2:00:50Does it cause more pain or joy today?
2:00:55Pain.
2:00:56Do you think you could have any other lifestyle?
2:00:58Yes.
2:00:59What kind of lifestyle would that be?
2:01:01You know, I'd like to probably
2:01:04join Booster and Dilara's family as the third person
2:01:08so that Dilara has two husbands.
2:01:10And...
2:01:11Then we would have a nice cute little family together.
2:01:18F**k
2:01:21I want Dilara to give a birth to my son and Booster's
2:01:25and we would raise them
2:01:26The twins?
2:01:27Mutual children
2:01:28They would grow up and become streamers too
2:01:30What would you name them?
2:01:31What would I name my child?
2:01:33Yes
2:01:34Ludik (a short form of a russian word ludoman = gambling addict)
2:01:35What about Booster's kid?
2:01:36What a provocative question.
2:01:38He is gonna cry now for f**ks sake.
2:01:40Alright, alright. I would name him...
2:01:44Pedro.
2:01:45Pedro?
2:01:46F**king Pedro.
2:01:47So...
2:01:49You would have two boys: Pedro and Ludik?
2:01:52Pedro and Ludik, yeah.
2:01:55This sounds f**king ridiculous but it's whatever.
2:01:57What do you think could help you stop gambling?
2:02:01Perhaps, if I find a higher bliss in something else.
2:02:05That would be the best option.
2:02:07Do you think that's possible?
2:02:08Higher bliss,
2:02:10Healthy high.
2:02:11Is to have passion for sport.
2:02:14Or fall in love with someone.
2:02:16These are healthy hobbies, I believe.
2:02:18I think if you truly love some woman
2:02:23this should overcome any urge to deposit another dollar for gambling.
2:02:29It feels like you just want to replace one addiction with another.
2:02:31Well I want it to be at least healthy.
2:02:33If I had a button now and the options were either to become a cuckold or a gambler,
2:02:37I'd rather be a f**king cuckold.
2:02:39Wait, so everyone who is in love is a cuckold?
2:02:41No.
2:02:42Only if you overly exaggerate the affection.
2:02:45It's just that guys act like cuckolds, most of them.
2:02:48I think they do unworthy things when they are madly in love.
2:02:50So I'd rather be unworthy rather than a f**king gambling addict.
2:02:56You're gonna have to tell me now
2:02:59what behaviour is worthy when you're in love
2:03:01and what is not.
2:03:03For f**ks sake…
2:03:04You're so ruthless.
2:03:05Imagine this, I come home
2:03:07Ok
2:03:09just to see that Booster f**ks my girl that I'm dating and I'm in love with her.
2:03:15Just a fantasy.
2:03:16Had I been a cuckold I would attack Booster on the spot,
2:03:21I'd gouge his eyes out, punch his f**king face.
2:03:24If I was a cuckold with zero IQ.
2:03:30In my opinion, this is the definition of a cuckold.
2:03:33The common sense is to realize that
2:03:37when I came home to see that Litvin is f**king my girl.
2:03:40Wait, Booster or Litvin?
2:03:41Shush. It was a good one.
2:03:43So Booster and Litvin are f**king her, that's another situation.
2:03:47The common sense is to
2:03:49just realize that she is a f**king sl**
2:03:53and it's my own f**king fault that I was dating her and then just leave.
2:03:56Second option is worthy behaviour, in my opinion.
2:03:59So you can't beat up the person your girl is cheating on you with
2:04:03because it's her own fault to begin with.
2:04:06If she didn't get close with other dudes
2:04:09then there would have been no betrayals and no guys around her.
2:04:14It all depends on if your girl flirts with other men or not.
2:04:20If a guy f**ks her he might not even know that she had a boyfriend, by the way.
2:04:24Do you think that Mellstroy is a synonym for a word casino today?
2:04:27I'd say yes for 30-40%.
2:04:29Why not a 100%?
2:04:30Not a 100%.
2:04:33Because a lot of people know me but not everyone knows I gamble.
2:04:38They found out about me from memes, shorts on tik tok,
2:04:41instagram reels and so on.
2:04:42Russian speaking audience yes,
2:04:44they know me as a person who promotes gambling for the most part.
2:04:49I shall remember once again that I always try to mention that
2:04:53gambling only leads to disappoinment, debts and so on.
2:04:56You will never make money gambling, for f**ks sake.
2:04:58I think I lashed out at Tamaev first
2:05:02when I heard that he, being my colleague
2:05:07promoted online casino
2:05:12saying that he had deposited only 10 000 rubles
2:05:18and was able to get himself a nice apartment, a Rolls-Royce and so on.
2:05:23It's just that me, as person who knows how everything works, all the nitty-gritties,
2:05:25I realize he is just a f**king liar.
2:05:27Just a f**king liar!
2:05:28So I was p**sed that he could lie in such a blatant way
2:05:31so that he gets more affiliates on his partnership program, for f**k's sake.
2:05:34I went at him saying: "Why the f**k do you encourage people to gamble 3 times a day?
2:05:43In fact, some tik tokers and some audiences who make a joke out of it...
2:05:48They should take it a lot more seriously. It's not a f**king joke.
2:05:50Have you ever seen a video in tik tok with his edited voice
2:05:56and the video encourages to gamble or make some memes with it?
2:06:01Honestly, I haven't.
2:06:02You haven't but I have seen a lot of them.
2:06:03People are making a joke out of it, they see an irony here.
2:06:09Why don't you just acknowledge the fact
2:06:11that you're making money of your referals who had lost their money?
2:06:16Half of their lost money goes to you.
2:06:17So you make money of your referals too?
2:06:20Yes.
2:06:21But I always tell people that. As it is.
2:06:24I show my partnerships, how much I made, how I made.
2:06:28Do you think you were the reason why a lot of people started gambling?
2:06:31Eventually, yes.
2:06:33Sometimes even unknowingly.
2:06:35You might have seen on the internet
2:06:37that people edit and post videos of my wins
2:06:39and you can find those videos on the websites where you can see movies for free.
2:06:43So they edit a 5 second highlight where I won, jump off of my chair.
2:06:46And this encourages people to gamble and win and so on.
2:06:50With these "ads" a lot of people got hooked on.
2:06:54Undoubtedly, my streams have contributed to that as well.
2:06:58To my defence,
2:07:00I also want to point out that I have helped a lot of people
2:07:03to stop gambling with my streams.
2:07:05Let's say a guy wants to gamble,
2:07:08he comes to watch my stream, sees my emotions and losses
2:07:12and lives through them and realizes that he is the lucky one not to deposit any money.
2:07:14I have a lot of comments like that.
2:07:16I'm really happy about it.
2:07:18It's just that I think it's f**king cringe to praise gambling.
2:07:24During one of the latest streams you mentioned
2:07:28that you have such a lingering apathy for the first time.
2:07:31Well, it has been like this for 2-2.5 months, yes.
2:07:34You even got triggered once and banned
2:07:37everyone who commented mean stuff.
2:07:39Yes.
2:07:40Why did you do that?
2:07:41I was bitter.
2:07:43I was angry with everyone, at everything.
2:07:48Because I receive tenfold more negativity than positivity.
2:07:54The atmosphere overall was super toxic.
2:08:01Why was everyone so bad?
2:08:02A bad case had happened with me in my life.
2:08:05I had lost a lot of money, some casino sponsors had left me,
2:08:07and a lot of people had started hating me.
2:08:10When I won 10 million dollars
2:08:11everyone was ecstatic about it,
2:08:13they told me I was the best in the world, top dog.
2:08:18And here I am, lost all of my money, I only had debt
2:08:20and everyone started commenting
2:08:22...ew you're f**king beggar. So what happened to your gambling, look at you now?
2:08:25You know, when you hear and read such stuff every day,
2:08:27especially if you have weak mental health like I do
2:08:32then you take everything personally.
2:08:35And that enfuriates you. You get mad at the world.
2:08:38I mean, I need some support during such hard time.
2:08:42I want someone to say: for f**k's sake, brother, everything will be fine,
2:08:44you managed to solve this, you've dealt with a lot worse s**t, we will help.
2:08:49Turns out your audience or a part of it hasn't passed the loyalty test.
2:08:54It's probably the tik tok kids.
2:08:56I'm serious, these f**king kids flooded the chat.
2:09:01You do in fact have a lot of young, underage audience.
2:09:05Yeah, they watch my streams.
2:09:06So they join your stream,
2:09:07they see how you roll and win 10.5 million,
2:09:11then you go to Moscow
2:09:14to buy super expensive cars.
2:09:16After that they think gambling is the answer.
2:09:18That's the way.
2:09:20They want to become you
2:09:22but they don't see the downside
2:09:24that you're deeply unhappy,
2:09:27at least at the current moment.
2:09:30Am I really that unhappy though?
2:09:31I'm not happy yes,
2:09:32but I wouldn't call myself deeply unhappy either.
2:09:35I have both of my arms, legs. I'm alive and healthy,
2:09:37family, career more or less.
2:09:42Yes, but at the same time you're a hostage to gambling.
2:09:45Yeah, something like that.
2:09:46Look, you had conflicts with five different online casinos.
2:09:49With almost all of them, yes.
2:09:51Why do you bite the hand that feeds?
2:09:55Gambling leads to this.
2:09:59You don't appreciate anybody.
2:10:00The addiction assures me that
2:10:02at least, in my case,
2:10:04I can live happily ever after completely alone.
2:10:11For real.
2:10:13Maybe since I've been gambling for so long
2:10:14my brain receptors don't work in the same way,
2:10:16they aren't capable to produce any compassion.
2:10:18Perhaps, that's the reason why I haven't apologized
2:10:21to Morgenstern yet.
2:10:22I should have apologized, you know.
2:10:24Maybe I shouldn't and I did everything right.
2:10:27The audience will decide.
2:10:31If it wasn't for the gambling addiction, I would have been a lot kinder.
2:10:32It's pretty obvious that I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you
2:10:34I would work as a f**king electrician
2:10:37for 300$ a month.
2:10:39Would you still live in Belarus?
2:10:41Yes.
2:10:42I would have done my military duty,
2:10:45I would have dug the f**king mud...
2:10:48I would have painted the f**king snow,
2:10:49and that's all.
2:10:50Does it scare you?
2:10:51The 1.5 years scare me.
2:10:53I think army, overall, would do good for me.
2:10:57I would lose some weight, get buff or at least back in shape.
2:11:00Are you scared of not being able to gamble for 1.5 years?
2:11:02You're so f**king rough for f**k's sake.
2:11:04I've been pouring my heart out here saying that gambling s**ks a**.
2:11:09And you like: "Are you scared of not being able to gamble for 1.5 years?"
2:11:13For f**k's sake.
2:11:15You're so ruthless.
2:11:17Army means 1.5 years
2:11:19without any freedom, without people.
2:11:21I've gotten used to a certain lifestyle, you know?
2:11:24Like, I'm used to banging some chick.
2:11:26But in the army, who am I gonna bang?
2:11:28A sergeant? Or is he gonna bang me instead?
2:11:29His wife?
2:11:31Jesus f**king Christ I have no business with other people's wives.
2:11:32I only made a couple of jokes.
2:11:35Why is everyone such a snowflake?
2:11:36You said that you could
2:11:39live happily ever after alone.
2:11:41Five minutes later
2:11:42you said that you're used to being with people.
2:11:45Yes but I meant
2:11:47that my addiction is trying to convince me in that.
2:11:49I truly believe that one needs people overall.
2:11:52It's just that gambling addiction does push people away from you.
2:11:55It assures you that you're gonna end up being alone anyway.
2:11:59That's what I was talking about
2:12:01and that is scary.
2:12:02Gleb from the band 3 dnya dozhdya
2:12:04also told us that every gambler plays to get even.
2:12:07What is your goal? What are you playing for?
2:12:08That's my job.
2:12:09To make money.
2:12:11Considering the fact
2:12:12that I've reached my goals as a streamer right now
2:12:16my only drive is to become ultra filthy f**king rich.
2:12:19And for some reason I think
2:12:20the only way I can achieve this is with gambling.
2:12:23But earlier today when I came here
2:12:25you were playing a little.
2:12:28Well yeah I did buy one bonus.
2:12:29But you didn't stream.
2:12:31I didn't.
2:12:32So you gamble not only because it's your job.
2:12:34This is very rare.
2:12:36Like...
2:12:37People have been asking me the same question as well.
2:12:39I gamble off stream
2:12:41maybe twice a month.
2:12:43For the past few months
2:12:44Before that I almost didn't gamble off stream at all.
2:12:46I just think that if you didn't have your streams you would still gamble.
2:12:49I have a different opinion.
2:12:50If online casinos didn't sponsor my endeavour
2:12:54I would gamble off stream a couple more days at most after that,
2:12:59lost all the money and then I would stop.
2:13:04Even though gambling and I go way back and I have extensive experience in that.
2:13:08I got used to these emotions to win and then to lose.
2:13:11Dopamine and right after than BOOM! Cortisol.
2:13:15To live with such mood swings is f**king horrible.
2:13:18How much have you lost here, at the hotel casino?
2:13:22800 000 dollars or more?
2:13:23Last time yes.
2:13:24Overall it's in between 1.5-2 million dollars.
2:13:26I could have streamed it but I did it without it.
2:13:28Yeah, without it.
2:13:30Oh yeah.
2:13:30This is f**king ruthless.
2:13:31So, as I've said before, you gamble outside of work too.
2:13:34I guess so.
2:13:36Imagine that the goal
2:13:37you've mentioned today
2:13:39which is to become the first billionaire streamer...
2:13:43Alright.
2:13:44...is now reality.
2:13:44Will you blow everything on gambling?
2:13:46I think it's hard.
2:13:47Perhaps, I won't become a billion dollar streamer
2:13:50because of gambling.
2:13:51Maybe I need to make a rogh but serious decision
2:13:56which is to stop gambling and become a different person.
2:14:01There is something to my name already, I have some kind of popularity.
2:14:05Maybe I should take notes from some other projects.
2:14:07I don't know, perhaps I should create my clothing line,
2:14:10just start with the basics.
2:14:12Merch or some s**t.
2:14:13Then I can expand it to whiskey, for example.
2:14:18That's what Conor did.
2:14:19Yeah and I think it's cool.
2:14:20Do you feel any remorse
2:14:23because of the fact that you promote gambling?
2:14:25My brother has been imposing this on me.
2:14:26I guess there is a little remorse, yeah.
2:14:27How exactly does he impose this on you?
2:14:29You know I can't quote precise wording
2:14:31but you can clearly tell
2:14:37he is f**king p**sed
2:14:40that I'm doing all of this.
2:14:42He's mad because of two reasons:
2:14:43the relationship with our family is going downhill
2:14:48and since I'm an addict sometimes I can be very f**king rude.
2:14:53Sometimes I don’t show the required attention and care and etc.
2:14:56The second...
2:14:57is that...
2:15:01Hogs, I mean my viewers, write him sometimes
2:15:04that they lost everything because of gambling
2:15:08and they'd rather d**.
2:15:09He gets mad because of all that s**t.
2:15:11He gets emotional over these stories?
2:15:13Yes, he doesn't gamble, it's understandable.
2:15:17I'd hate to read that s**t too.
2:15:19Just imagine, you're witnessing your own brother gambling and degrading
2:15:24and his personality is literally self-destructing,
2:15:26it is turning into
2:15:28apathetic, indifferent, emotionless vegetable.
2:15:33I would want him to stop gambling as well.
2:15:35For now we are hostages of that s**t.
2:15:37I'm used to that lifestyle.
2:15:38I'm used to spending so much money in one month.
2:15:41I'm used to not caring about price tags at all even at a f**king jewellery store.
2:15:46And now
2:15:47I have to, you know what I mean?
2:15:49It turns that I take my greed first
2:15:52before someone else's pain.
2:15:55Deep inside this is the ugly truth.
2:15:57I realize that and I truly want to change.
2:16:02Whether or not
2:16:03I will be able to we'll see later.
2:16:04What if your family makes an ultimatum for you:
2:16:07no more family or gambling?
2:16:09You're so ruthless for f**k's sake.
2:16:10They'd say something like:
2:16:13either you give up gambling
2:16:16or you will never talk to us again?
2:16:18Hey, if I think about that it means
2:16:20that the scales are evenly balanced.
2:16:23Your eyes are shining.
2:16:24Just listen to what the f**k is happening here.
2:16:26Anyone else would've chosen his family over the gambling,
2:16:28I think.
2:16:29But hey, at least I was honest about it.
2:16:32Right now I think
2:16:34I would choose
2:16:37family too
2:16:38because...
2:16:39I'll explain.
2:16:40Had I chosen the gambling
2:16:41and became the most successful person on this planet,
2:16:44making 1 f**king million bucks a day.
2:16:46And I had no debts or anything,
2:16:50I think I'd just overdose on something.
2:16:53Because I understand
2:16:56that money is not the thing
2:16:59you should f**king bet it all on.
2:17:01Even if I chose gambling,
2:17:03I would see the light in a couple of years and think to myself:
2:17:07what an absolutely immoral choice.
2:17:11I mean this is f**king insanity to choose money over your family,
2:17:15this is completely f**ked up.
2:17:16Not money, but gambling.
2:17:17You know, I'm actively thinking about because it would be very hard to just give up gambling abrputly.
2:17:21You know, unless every single online casino in the world
2:17:25told me that they were not gonna work with me ever again.
2:17:27Deliberately to give up this kind of money would be very hard
2:17:30Maybe I do need to come back to reality
2:17:32so that I can find a way to make money besides gambling.
2:17:34How much do you pay for rent?
2:17:36For my apartment?
2:17:37Well, apartments...
2:17:39Lifestyle in general?
2:17:40Girls.
2:17:41I can't say exact numbers here
2:17:42but there are a lot people,
2:17:44I'd say around 30
2:17:46My whole team
2:17:48girls, security workers, friends.
2:17:52This apartment sets me back 5000$ a day.
2:17:54So that would be 150 000$ a month.
2:17:57If I pay in advance I get a little discount to 130-140.
2:18:01Oops, sorry, 130-120.
2:18:03On top of that we have extra services and entertainment
2:18:06like food, hookah, alcohol.
2:18:09This adds another 50 000$ a month.
2:18:11I guess I spend 400 000 on that stuff
2:18:14in total.
2:18:15Are online casinos evil?
2:18:15Absolute evil.
2:18:17When you ran away into the woods
2:18:20was that peak of your despair?
2:18:23No, it wasn't.
2:18:24It was back in Moscow,
2:18:25I was living at the Radisson hotel.
2:18:28I had lost all of my money,
2:18:29took a 20 million rubles loan.
2:18:31I was only making 200 thousand rubles a day then.
2:18:33So I'd have to work for at least 4-5 months,
2:18:37you know, something to live on, and work
2:18:39before I could pay off my loan.
2:18:41I was so discouraged
2:18:44that I had sui***al thoughts.
2:18:47There was this one time, this was in autumn, by the way.
2:18:50I ran outside from the hotel,
2:18:52without my shoes on,
2:18:53running towards the river.
2:18:55You know that hotel,
2:18:56there is this river right across the street,
2:18:59you'd have to walk only 200 meters to get to it.
2:19:02I ran through a road police post,
2:19:04they looked at me like what the f**k.
2:19:06So I got to the river
2:19:08and just stopped by the fence and that's it.
2:19:11By that time a friend of mine ran to me
2:19:13and tried to calm me down and stop me from doing...
2:19:16...any silly things.
2:19:17Something like that.
2:19:18That's what gambling is.
2:19:19Mind you, I had had sui***al thoughts before.
2:19:21That is what scares me the most.
2:19:23Do you have them each time because of gambling addiction?
2:19:25Yes,
2:19:26just because of it and nothing else.
2:19:28Not because I don't have a girlfriend
2:19:30or because I drink, no.
2:19:33I mean all of that is kinda sad but it's whatever.
2:19:36Gambling addiction, on the other hand
2:19:37is a f**king nightmare.
2:19:39I am lucky because I get paid
2:19:41to gamble by online casinos.
2:19:44I can't imagine what it's like
2:19:46when a guy works for a month, regular job
2:19:48or for 6 months watch job at -50 degrees Celsius,
2:19:51he made his 1 000 000 rubles
2:19:54just to blow it all in one night.
2:19:56If I were that guy I'd be f**king gone.
2:20:00So today I lost, got into debt
2:20:04but tomorrow I'll get a free deposit.
2:20:05I'll have another chance to start from scratch.
2:20:07Every day.
2:20:07I really don't know what regular people should do in that case.
2:20:12You also said
2:20:14Ryndych in his interview to Amiran mentioned
2:20:16that you would end up like this.
2:20:19Was he, perhaps, correct?
2:20:21Ryndych in this interview to Amiran said
2:20:24that both Morgenstern and I
2:20:26will end up d**ng by sui***e.
2:20:28For real.
2:20:29This might be the case if I don't give up gambling,
2:20:33bad habits,
2:20:35certain habits which is consuming alcohol, then yes.
2:20:37Does this finale scare you?
2:20:39Not at all.
2:20:40I know a million and one way how to d** elegantly.
2:20:42Who or what supports you
2:20:46when you are at your lowest?
2:20:48People, my family,
2:20:50my brother, my mom
2:20:52they always support me.
2:20:54Doesn't matter how rude or cold I get towards them
2:20:57they will always say
2:21:01that everything is gonna be fine,
2:21:03don't worry, don't stress out,
2:21:06just to cheer me up.
2:21:09Sometimes people whom I've know for a long time write me too.
2:21:12Sometimes
2:21:14it kind of feels nice
2:21:16but sometimes, when I'm in a really dark place
2:21:20these words are a mere f**king dust that does nothing.
2:21:22What do you usually do off stream?
2:21:24I drink.
2:21:25I see people who I came here with.
2:21:29We just drink, listen to music, hang out
2:21:33and then half alive we come home
2:21:35at 5 or 6 in the morning and go to bed.
2:21:39How many times a week do you drink?
2:21:42I'd say around 3-4 times.
2:21:44I mean when I actually get a dense drink,
2:21:46really dense.
2:21:47Dense meaning a glass of whiskey?
2:21:49No, meaning that I drink often.
2:21:53Whoah, what is this flying thing?
2:21:56It's a big ass bumblebee.
2:21:59Where is it?
2:22:01No it has just landed on your ass.
2:22:02No, I can feel that.
2:22:03I'm kidding.
2:22:04I would be able to feel that.
2:22:06When did you first start drinking by the way?
2:22:07I have been drinking since I was 18.
2:22:08Now I'm 25. So it's been 7 years.
2:22:11So you hadn't had any alcohol before you were 18?
2:22:12Not at all.
2:22:13I mean I did boxing,
2:22:16just so you understand I would think twice
2:22:19about having a whopper from burger king
2:22:21because it is bad for your shape, your health and all that s**t.
2:22:25Right now I can eat a burger
2:22:28without even realizing that.
2:22:30So I have been out of shape.
2:22:32Either way, I still believe
2:22:34that I will have enough will power
2:22:37to change myself for the better.
2:22:41Now that's a feast, huh?
2:22:44Yeah.
2:22:45Happens every time.
2:22:47I see you eat well.
2:22:48F**king hefty.
2:22:49So you love pizza.
2:22:50You brought buckwheat here?
2:22:52Is that a tribute to your motherland?
2:22:53Barbeque...You even ordered some soup.
2:22:56A broth with seven c**ks.
2:22:58F**king A.
2:22:59Pasta, salad, casinolad,
2:23:03casinolad, french fries, of course...
2:23:05I just don't want to eat too much.
2:23:06Just snack on it, like an appertizer.
2:23:08How exactly did your life change
2:23:11after you were put on a wanted list again?
2:23:13Look,
2:23:14I came to Russia two or three months ago, right?
2:23:16Yes.
2:23:17Was I on the wanted list at the time?
2:23:18You were.
2:23:19But it was gone.
2:23:20It was.
2:23:21Because you promised to help...
2:23:23On February 13, 2024, Mellstroy was wanted in Russia and Belarus for evading military service.
2:23:27In March, Andrei promised to buy sports equipment for orphanages in Belarus.
2:23:31After that, Mell stopped being pursued, but was put on the wanted list again in May.
2:23:36No.
2:23:37No?
2:23:37Of course not, what the f**k.
2:23:38Where on Earth have you seen law enforcement
2:23:41that removes people from a wanted list
2:23:43just for a promise to help them?
2:23:46I have never seen such bulls**t.
2:23:47It doesn't work like that.
2:23:48So how were you able to come back to Russia exactly?
2:23:51Well, how?
2:23:52Some lawyers kinda helped.
2:23:53Lawyers?
2:23:54Yes. Lawyers.
2:23:55Or one lawyer. I guess so.
2:23:57What a cool lawyer you have.
2:23:58I guess, I don't know. I have never even met him before.
2:24:01You know as they say, better call Saul.
2:24:03Yeah, better call Saul
2:24:05When you were flying to Moscow,
2:24:07did you realize...
2:24:08well...
2:24:10that this could be a one way ticket?
2:24:12I was nervous but I knew that the likelihood of this happening
2:24:14was around 60-70%.
2:24:17I thought they would arrest me right at the airport.
2:24:20The would take me to the police station first
2:24:21and then:
2:24:22‘Let there be the light, oh no no my a** is too tight’
2:24:24That was a good one.
2:24:26But everything went well in fact.
2:24:29Why did you decide to take the risk?
2:24:30Why the risk?
2:24:31Because I had been sick and f**king tired
2:24:33of traveling to different cities.
2:24:35I wanted to see something familiar,
2:24:37something that reminded me of my homeland.
2:24:38Even though I'm Belarusian, you know,
2:24:40I really wanted to see russian speaking people
2:24:43with whom I can converse.
2:24:44I don't want any "Hi"
2:24:46I don't f**king understand the English language.
2:24:49Anyway, I really wanted to go to strip clubs I had been to before
2:24:52see my old pals.
2:24:54That's it.
2:24:56I wanted to feel as if I was home again.
2:25:00Let's clarify one thing about this sport equipment
2:25:04that you promised.
2:25:06You bought it eventually.
2:25:07Yeah.
2:25:08I bought it for hockey players.
2:25:09What hockey players?
2:25:10If I'm not mistaken we bought it for a kids' hockey club.
2:25:14We purchased equipment for one group.
2:25:18On top of that I created this telegram channel.
2:25:21Named it ‘Helpstroy’
2:25:23Like...
2:25:24This is where we help people.
2:25:25We haven't posted anything for a long time
2:25:26but about 4 days ago my mom sent me
2:25:30certificate
2:25:30for my name
2:25:32from..
2:25:33Novozybkovsky orphanage
2:25:35Anyway, we do help sometimes.
2:25:37We fixed the roof in one of the orphanages
2:25:39in Gomel.
2:25:40But they don't really appreciate it
2:25:43when I help them.
2:25:44Why?
2:25:45I guess it's because...
2:25:46I'm a bad person?
2:25:48Maybe.
2:25:50You came to Moscow
2:25:51to vizit the places of your former glory as they say,
2:25:56like strip clubs...
2:25:58just to remember what it was like.
2:26:00And at the same time
2:26:01you are in a market for cars.
2:26:03I hadn't planned it. I decided that spontaneously.
2:26:05You had just won
2:26:07your 10.5 million dollars.
2:26:08Dollars, yes
2:26:09Just a few days before that.
2:26:11How much did you owe at the time?
2:26:12Two million bucks.
2:26:14Did you pay it off?
2:26:15No.
2:26:15Why not?
2:26:16That's the point.
2:26:17When I had the 10.5,
2:26:18I was supposed to…
2:26:19I didn't pay off the guys who I took the 2 million dollar loan from.
2:26:23Why not?
2:26:24I really don't understand it myself.
2:26:25I'm just a f**king im**cile.
2:26:26Thats it...
2:26:27I had the most amount of money I had ever had,
2:26:29now I won 10.5 million,
2:26:30before that I had won some money, I made some money.
2:26:33I had 17 million bucks when I came to Moscow,
2:26:34just in a wallet on my phone.
2:26:36F**king bucks!
2:26:37And I don't even f**king know,
2:26:38I hadn't paid off the 2 million yet
2:26:40and I was just detached from everything completely
2:26:42that I just wanted to rest...
2:26:44to meet up with someone and go to clubs...
2:26:47and just...
2:26:48...so that I forget about everything for a brief moment.
2:26:49For me it's a weird situation to be
2:26:51in when you owe 2 million dollars.
2:26:52I understand and I agree with you completely.
2:26:54And at the same time you go to a club
2:26:56and throw the money left and right.
2:26:59Yeah, I threw away 20 f**king million rubles
2:27:01that night in the Timati club.
2:27:0920 million?
2:27:10Yeah. I just threw it out the window.
2:27:12I mean, I was on the second floor and the crowd was on the first.
2:27:14It was bussin.
2:27:15But it's the first time
2:27:17when you have the money
2:27:20and instead of paying off your debts..
2:27:22I produced content, yes.
2:27:23It's because I knew
2:27:24that if I gave all my money
2:27:29I would be left with nothing at all.
2:27:31I wouldn't have enough to produce some viral content again.
2:27:35I feel like
2:27:37it's so convenient for you to say:
2:27:39‘I was a f**king im**cile.’
2:27:40Meaning if you say it once:
2:27:42‘I was stupid,
2:27:43but I won't do it again’,
2:27:44then you change something.
2:27:45But if you keep having the same pattern
2:27:49then it gets weird.
2:27:50I made a mistake in Moscow.
2:27:51In any other cases,
2:27:52let's say I borrow a million from someone.
2:27:54Okay
2:27:54I win two million.
2:27:55But it took me 2 millon to produce such content
2:27:57that my average online increased from 5 to 10 thousand people.
2:28:00From 10 to 20 and etc.
2:28:01Just so you understand, another example.
2:28:03When I shaved every streamer's head bald
2:28:05I was in a lot of debt.
2:28:07I could have paid it off instead of shaving their hads.
2:28:10I just knew that I would take more loan
2:28:13from the same very guys with a new interest.
2:28:15And then I would become a f**king squirrel in a wheel.
2:28:18Because I took risk and sacrificed.
2:28:19I didn't pay off my loan sharks.
2:28:21At that exact moment.
2:28:22In general, I give it to them. They just wait a long time.
2:28:25I invested that money into shaving the streamers' heads.
2:28:28Because of that
2:28:29we had a lot more viewers,
2:28:30people started recognizing me and so on.
2:28:32The content was actually beneficial for everybody.
2:28:33Even if the loan sharks have some claims with me,
2:28:35I don't necessarily agree with it.
2:28:41Because they get paid a higher interest
2:28:43for every single day of late payment.
2:28:45If I took a 100 000 dollar loan,
2:28:47at 15% a month.
2:28:48I would pay you back, let's say in a 2 months
2:28:5115 plus 15…
2:28:52I guess around 130k.
2:28:54Something like that.
2:28:55And on top of that some extra for the delay.
2:28:58Do they have to wait for a long time?
2:28:59The longest time I made someone wait was 9 months.
2:29:01Initially I took a loan for 50 000 dollars.
2:29:03I don't remember when was the due day,
2:29:04but it was a short period
2:29:06It could range from couple of weeks to couple of months.
2:29:09I paid him back in 9 months.
2:29:10But I paid 50% of the initial price.
2:29:12So I took 50
2:29:14and paid back 75.
2:29:16We would like to show you our notebook of loan sharks.
2:29:18Yeah.
2:29:18This is where we keep track how much I owe different people.
2:29:20Here's the number of people, Crystall,
2:29:22I remember I owe him 10 thousand.
2:29:24I owe Denis some money,
2:29:26I even have their wallet info.
2:29:28I owe some people 140 thousand dollars,
2:29:29some 70, other 40, 10, 460 thousand dollar...
2:29:31...one million rubles.
2:29:33What is your grand total debt here?
2:29:35My grand total
2:29:37is around 2.5 million dollars, for f**k's sake.
2:29:40Did you take any loans just to gamble?
2:29:43Yes, I did take loans for that.
2:29:44From some people, yes.
2:29:45And you promised to pay them back with interest?
2:29:48Yes.
2:29:49I mean that's how they make their money.
2:29:50I've been doing this for years.
2:29:52Do you have any people
2:29:53that you took a loan from
2:29:55but for some reason you didn't include them in the notebook?
2:29:57This might have happened because of my bad memory
2:30:01but anyway we still have all the info on Telegram.
2:30:05Let's talk about cars.
2:30:06You came to Moscow with a bag of money
2:30:09and you decide to go and get some cars.
2:30:11Why?
2:30:12Is that how you save up?
2:30:13Yes,
2:30:15my first goal was to save up some money.
2:30:17The second reason was...
2:30:19that I realize that this s**t is discussed.
2:30:23More content for my Telegram feed at least.
2:30:24We just went to the showroom and I took 5 of these cars for myself.
2:30:29It doesn't exactly make you go viral
2:30:31but it gets the job done.
2:30:33Look, I purchased a 500 million ruble car.
2:30:35So you don’t really like cars?
2:30:39No, I don't even have a driving license.
2:30:41Moreover, I think it may stem from the childhood dreams,
2:30:44to get myself a Rolls-Royce, Ferrari,
2:30:46Lambo, f**king Bentley one day.
2:30:49It's kinda cool being able to make you dreams a reality.
2:30:53All of these cars you purchased from Yuri Jetcar.
2:30:55You had known each other before.
2:30:57Yes, we had known each other for a few years,
2:30:59we even hung out couple times here and there.
2:31:01How did you even get that idea
2:31:03to purchase a Bugatti
2:31:05that costs around 4.5 million?
2:31:074 million 5 hundred thousand dollars.
2:31:08$4.5 million...
2:31:10Which is roughly 420 million russian rubles.
2:31:13It's way too overpriced.
2:31:16When I came to Yuri to get more cars for the second time
2:31:19he came up to me and told me
2:31:20there was this unique option, an exclusive car,
2:31:23that we should discuss it.
2:31:27I thought it over for a little
2:31:29and asked him whether or not it required a prepayment?
2:31:33He said: 'Yes, I need 500 thousand dollars,
2:31:36I bring it here
2:31:38and..
2:31:39When it's here you'll pay the rest and that's f**king it.’
2:31:42Few weeks went by,
2:31:43I sent him 1.6 million in one payment.
2:31:46Apart from those 500k…
2:31:47I sent him 1.6 million
2:31:49because...
2:31:51I thought, well, at least there had been 500 000 already,
2:31:54plus this, it is more than 30% of the car total price.
2:31:57Even more...
2:31:58I thought after that I'd just send lower payments every now and then and that's it.
2:32:02As it turned out, he had been telling everyone that...
2:32:04all this had been a prepayemnt,
2:32:05Overall, why did you need this perfomance?
2:32:07Just because it was the most expensive car?
2:32:09I had wanted to come to Moscow for the second time
2:32:11only if I had a car.
2:32:13Bugatti!
2:32:14I mean it's crème de la crème.
2:32:15As it turned out,
2:32:16I had been put on the wanted list once again,
2:32:18for the second time in Russia.
2:32:21So I texted Yuri saying that I didn't really need the car anymore
2:32:24and I wanted my 1.6 million back
2:32:26but you can keep the initial 500 000.
2:32:29And that's how it all started.
2:32:31Yura said that you had agreed on a bigger prepayment.
2:32:36500 000 dollars.
2:32:38That was the prepayment.
2:32:39I sent 1.6 million because I had just won it
2:32:42and I was thinking why not put it to good use,
2:32:44I would find a way to blow it any way.
2:32:46Okay.
2:32:47We didn't even sign any documents or agreements.
2:32:48Everything was agreed on his honest word.
2:32:50Do you still have the chat history with him?
2:32:52No.
2:32:53Why not?
2:32:54We talked about prepayments in real life.
2:33:02Also, when I talked to Yura
2:33:04he mentioned that when he received the money...
2:33:08He let you know
2:33:10that he received the full prepayment, x amount.
2:33:13And...
2:33:14Later you deleted the chat history.
2:33:15It didn't make much sense because I was emotional.
2:33:19But I guess the only question is
2:33:21how much was the initial prepayment, right?
2:33:22So if I was able to prove that the payment was 500 000
2:33:25this would make Yuri's arguments invalid.
2:33:27Look, roughly speaking, we have two opinions. Your word against his.
2:33:29Perhaps, if we had the chat history, it would shed some light.
2:33:32I deleted chat history
2:33:34as soon as I realized him and Tamaev had f**ked me over.
2:33:37What Tamaev has to do with anything in that story?
2:33:39I thought it was between you and Yuri only.
2:33:42When I was streaming I mentioned
2:33:45that I had had some issues with Bugatti,
2:33:50Tamaev started bombarding me with messages for a whole month.
2:33:53He really needed to help me.
2:33:57He talked so politely,
2:34:01he kind of charmed me with this kindness of his.
2:34:05‘Andrey, I will help you for sure,
2:34:07Andrey pleace accept my help, everything will be fine’.
2:34:10It took me a month to think
2:34:13whether or not to accept his f**king help.
2:34:16It really got me thinking whether or not there was some kind of trick.
2:34:18I just couldn't find what it was.
2:34:21Eventually...
2:34:24...having thought everything over I said: "Alright, f**k it. Go ahead and help me"
2:34:27So he came to Yuri. They talked about something,
2:34:29without me.
2:34:30And that's all.
2:34:32He confirmed that he took 550 000 from Yuri.
2:34:35Did he confirm this to you?
2:34:36Yes, he sent me a message.
2:34:38I was smart enough to forward these messages to myself so I have proof.
2:34:40He event wrote this yesterday.
2:34:41And...
2:34:43Regardless of everything, I offered him another solution.
2:34:46He gets to keep the 100 000 for his service
2:34:49but he needs to give me my 450 000 back.
2:34:53After that I record a video where I confirm
2:34:55that everything has been settled,
2:34:57no conflict anymore, case closed.
2:34:59His response was that I'm f**king insane and if...
2:35:02...if he ever sees me again I will regret it.
2:35:06You know what I mean. He emphasized it a few times
2:35:09that it wouldn't be him who would be beating me up.
2:35:12Mellstroy: Look, I have an argument. An actual fact. Vasya: But you're in a weak position here.
2:35:15I have a chat with Tamaev where we talked yesteday.
2:35:20He confirmed the fact that when he came to Yuri
2:35:22he took 550 000 dollars from him.
2:35:25Okay.
2:35:25If Yuri claims that the whole prepayment was 1.6 million why on Earth would he settle for 550 000?
2:35:28I told Tamaev: ‘Ok, go.'
2:35:30He had been asking me if he could help me so many times.
2:35:32Yeah.
2:35:33Well, alternatively.
2:35:34He came to Yuri, showed our chat
2:35:36and Yuri, out of his pocket gives him 550 000 dollars.
2:35:40Perhaps, there would have been no opportunities in the nearest future.
2:35:45Of course they didn't have any opportunities.
2:35:47Sure.
2:35:49Why didn't he just give me the money back?
2:35:51Why not me? Him?
2:35:53Why Tamaev?
2:35:53Yuri put me on the spot.
2:35:55We settled everything with Tamaev, we were fine.
2:36:00I asked him what had happened, all the details about the transaction.
2:36:05He went: ‘ask Tamaev.’
2:36:07I wrote Tamaev, he doesn't even read my messages.
2:36:09What the hell is that supposed to mean?
2:36:10I mean this is debatable.
2:36:12Imagine that we have some kind of financial transaction.
2:36:16I send you my trustee, for example, Vanya.
2:36:20You and Vanya are not getting along and can't get things solved.
2:36:23But he is still my trustee.
2:36:24After that, you hand over x amount of money to him
2:36:26that he is supposed to deliver for me.
2:36:29And...
2:36:29he doesn't show up.
2:36:32But it was me who sent Vanya to you in the first place.
2:36:36Yeah but why nobody reconciled any of this with me?
2:36:39Why can't I know the details about the transaction?
2:36:44What the f**k is that?
2:36:46I asked him directly, what happened between you two?
2:36:47Okay if you believed my trustee Tomaev, then what the…
2:36:52Why can't you tell me?
2:36:55Why did you scream at the top of your lungs that the whole amount was a prepayment
2:36:59and now you give 550 000 back?
2:37:01What a f**king nonsense.
2:37:02What conclusions have you made from this particular case?
2:37:05Let’s add something else to that.
2:37:06Tamaev told me today, that...
2:37:10...if there's any mention of this whole story in there,
2:37:15he'll make sure the Vpiska doesn't put it all in.
2:37:18Plus, by the way, he threatened that him and I are gonna meet.
2:37:22And he said that he would make me feel very uncomfortable.
2:37:24Life will get back at him.
2:37:26Karma's a b**ch.
2:37:27I really want to let go of the grudge against Yuri and Tamaev.
2:37:31Are you ready to let it go though?
2:37:33I am.
2:37:34I have been thinking about it lately.
2:37:35For some reason Tamaev has a God's syndrome.
2:37:39He thinks of himself as if he is the most influential person on the planet.
2:37:42He told me that I would realize why I can't insult him.
2:37:46He f**ks me over for half a million dollars
2:37:48and he has the audacity to f**king threaten me?
2:37:50Like, we'll meet up for sure soon.
2:37:54F**k.
2:37:56The absurdity level never ceases to surprise me.
2:38:00Did you try to sell this car?
2:38:02Or do something with it?
2:38:04It's not technically mine, I didn't pay in full.
2:38:06I only paid 1.6 million for it.
2:38:08So there was a variety of options as I get it.
2:38:10Firstly, you had your cars
2:38:12stored at Yuri's warehouse
2:38:14and you could've sold those cars to cover the Bugatti.
2:38:16Or you could sell Bugatti
2:38:18and try to get some money out of it back.
2:38:20These are not my problems.
2:38:22These are his problems.
2:38:24I think that's fair.
2:38:25It's such a complex situation
2:38:26because as I get it it was purchased,
2:38:28she was shipped to Russia.
2:38:30She is in Russia.
2:38:31I don't give a f**k,
2:38:33He doesn't give a f**k about my life, that I'm in debt.
2:38:35Why would I give a f**k about his problems
2:38:36that he took a loan to bring the car here?
2:38:39I know what I heard,
2:38:41there were other people too.
2:38:42There was the crowd of people trying to persuade me to buy the car from him.
2:38:44‘Do it, do it!’
2:38:46‘Just give me the 500 000 dollars and that's all".
2:38:49"We start the process,
2:38:50everything will be a-okay’
2:38:52What the f**k do you mean 1.6 million?
2:38:54Don't you think it's a bit too much
2:38:55to just throw away like that?
2:38:57Just look.
2:38:59What a f**ked up situation is this?
2:39:01He is left with a car, they have 1.6 million.
2:39:03I have nothing.
2:39:04Negative 1.6 million.
2:39:06Why is it only me who suffers then?
2:39:07Is it true that he offered you
2:39:09to sell this car
2:39:11but this would take a few months?
2:39:13He said he offered you this option,
2:39:15but you said that you need money now.
2:39:19I don't remember any of this s**t.
2:39:21Is it true that he sent you a pre-trial claim?
2:39:24Yes.
2:39:26Does it bother you?
2:39:27No.
2:39:30Why would it bother me?
2:39:31I mean, litigation is not exactly pleasant.
2:39:35No.
2:39:37He sent the lawsuit
2:39:40for 200 million rubles for defamation.
2:39:45And that's all.
2:39:48After all those conflicts
2:39:51have you revised your security measures?
2:39:54Did you get more bodyguards?
2:39:55Well yeah, some changes have been made,
2:39:59more or less.
2:40:00So it did bother you?
2:40:02I mean I do realize who I deal with.
2:40:06I know how f**king unscrupulous,
2:40:11immoral and cruel they can be.
2:40:13It lust...
2:40:14You know we all forget
2:40:15when we talk s**t about someone?
2:40:17We all forget
2:40:19that we consist of...
2:40:22flesh and blood.
2:40:23You are no exception.
2:40:24Exactly.
2:40:26Those who have God's syndrome
2:40:28forget about it a little.
2:40:31Did you ever have moments
2:40:33when you helped homeless people to get warm,
2:40:35give the money?
2:40:36Yes it was in Moscow, by the way.
2:40:38What do you feel at that very moment?
2:40:40Something nice and pleasant.
2:40:42It's as if damn, I was able to help someone out.
2:40:43There was one homeless guy,
2:40:44his name was Lyoha.
2:40:45Okay.
2:40:46I came to KFC once,
2:40:47saw that there was a homeless dude so I came up to him and met him.
2:40:50Anyway, I fed him
2:40:52and gave him 300-350 thousand rubles.
2:40:54We took him and went together
2:40:56on a strip club rage.
2:40:57Yes, it took some negotiating before they let him in.
2:41:00And...
2:41:01We washed him.
2:41:03Funny thing, it was the strippers who washed him.
2:41:05Not gonna lie, the reek was horrid.
2:41:10Either way, the girls washed him.
2:41:11I mean for him it was literally his first time to experience something like that.
2:41:13Sometimes stuff like this happen.
2:41:16So we hung out and everything.
2:41:18I even tried to talk to him
2:41:19but the dude was not having it.
2:41:22He was dumb.
2:41:23Dumb?
2:41:24Dumb.
2:41:24You're such a devil-tempter.
2:41:26Do you think he can go back to normal life?
2:41:28I help someone, people call me c**ks**ker.
2:41:29I don't help anyone, people still call me c**ks**ker.
2:41:30You know, it's never enough.
2:41:33You said you had been bullied.
2:41:35Aha.
2:41:35Were you bullied by boys only
2:41:37or girls of your age as well?
2:41:38By the way, girls didn't bully me.
2:41:40Mostly it was some guys,
2:41:42it carried on in college.
2:41:44It went on.
2:41:45For me bullying
2:41:45is when someone tries to insult others
2:41:47that's how he asserts himself.
2:41:49That's the basic s**t.
2:41:50What was your worst day at college like?
2:41:52There was this some gypsy guy.
2:41:55I saw him for the first time,
2:41:56we just shook our hands to greet each other.
2:41:58And he went: ‘I will break your f**king hand’
2:42:01I was like: ‘Why? What happened?’
2:42:04What the f**k?
2:42:06Just out of the blue...
2:42:07This was at the f**king school gym.
2:42:08I went to men's locker room after that s**t
2:42:11I came in
2:42:13and...
2:42:15just to find out my f**king shoes
2:42:17had been tied together with shoelaces.
2:42:21My f**king school bag had been thrown out the window.
2:42:23My belt had been cut up with a f**king knife.
2:42:25All of my personal belonings
2:42:26were in the trash can.
2:42:28All of my clothes.
2:42:29I was f**king shocked.
2:42:31I hadn't said a word to anyone.
2:42:33I hadn't had any conflicts whatsoever.
2:42:34Just for no f**king reason.
2:42:36So I got f**king p**sed.
2:42:38I just left.
2:42:39I went to see my mom at the convenience store.
2:42:41She sad I should get all the documents and just find another college instead.
2:42:42Yes, I couldn't beat all of them up.
2:42:44I had no one to call for help
2:42:45to get back at them.
2:42:46I couldn't do anything
2:42:47but I wouldn't tolerate that s**t.
2:42:48I'd rather be a f**king homeless all my life rather
2:42:50than tolerate that s**t.
2:42:51My mom told my dad everything.
2:42:52Аha.
2:42:54So I was like:
2:42:55‘I'm not going to that college again’.
2:42:57My parents woke me up the following morning
2:42:59and told me to get up and come.
2:43:03I asked: ‘Where are we going?’.
2:43:04‘To the college’. — they replied.
2:43:05So we go outside,
2:43:06we drive to this college.
2:43:09My dad asked me to show him
2:43:10where our class manager was.
2:43:12So he told me to walk him to our class room.
2:43:17That was f**king insane.
2:43:21I was both embarassed
2:43:22and happy at the same time.
2:43:24That was rough, not gonna lie.
2:43:25So they talked, right?
2:43:26We come up there
2:43:28but the class room was closed
2:43:29but the dude who had done everything was there.
2:43:32So in front of everybody,
2:43:34my dad asked me
2:43:34to point at the person who had done this to me.
2:43:37B**ch. Ahh f**k.
2:43:38I'm just...
2:43:40I'm shocked...
2:43:41Literally one second passes by
2:43:43and I point at the gypsy guy.
2:43:46He came up to him,
2:43:47took his f**king head
2:43:48and just beat the f**k out of him.
2:43:50Your father?
2:43:51Yes, for f**ks sake!
2:43:53I was f**king embarassed and shocked.
2:43:55The class master showed up
2:43:58and he is yelling at my dad:
2:43:59‘What the hell are you doing?’
2:44:01So eventually...
2:44:02We took my documents
2:44:03without any legal reprepercussions and left.
2:44:05So this s**t happened
2:44:07and I'm sure it damaged my f**king psyche.
2:44:11All of this...
2:44:12To see that stuff...
2:44:14tolerating such a horrible attitude from f**knig bums.
2:44:17Listen, your dad stood up for you.
2:44:18Well, listen,
2:44:19right now I understand that.
2:44:20Back then I did not appreciate it whatsoever.
2:44:22I thought he was f**king stupid.
2:44:23Come to think of it,
2:44:25I should have been able to stand up for myself.
2:44:29Imagine you have a son,
2:44:31who is facing bullying at school.
2:44:33Would you do the same thing for him?
2:44:34Honestly, I don't know.
2:44:36But let's imagine you're alone with his bully.
2:44:38No bodyguards around.
2:44:39I mean if my kid is being bullied
2:44:43for no f**knig reason
2:44:45and I knew that for a fact..
2:44:48I think I would get very emotional. I wouldn't have common sense or logic I think.
2:44:52My logic would probably tell me
2:44:53to go beat the f**k out of the bully.
2:44:54I mean every parent would stand up for his kid,
2:44:57I think.
2:44:59Perhaps that some of the people who will watch this interview
2:45:04would have the same experience at school or college.
2:45:07What is your advice for them?
2:45:08I'm giving you a real piece of advice here.
2:45:10Do not ever take these insults or tolerate such attitude.
2:45:13Maybe you should even ask for help.
2:45:16Ask your friends to come and help you beat the motherf**ker up.
2:45:21Explain the situation to your parents that you don't want to study there anymore
2:45:23because you're being made fun of and you don't want to be a doormat.
2:45:29Tell your parents.
2:45:30For parents, try to find a good martial arts club for your kid.
2:45:32Your best bet would be boxnig.
2:45:34But do not ever tolerate that shit because..
2:45:35..this will backlash at you years later.
2:45:39If you tolerate all the humiliation, the insults, all of that dirt..
2:45:43These motherf**kers also do it publically.
2:45:45They do it in front of everybody for f**k's sake.
2:45:47Assert themselves.
2:45:48That's how they assert themselves, yes.
2:45:49Go learn some useful skill, work hard, you will become a lot more successful
2:45:51than any of those bums that are your classmates.
2:45:53But never tolerate it. The most important thing.
2:45:55Do you realize why they saw a victim in you?
2:45:57More or less.
2:45:58Why?
2:45:59Because I did not instill any fear or respect.
2:46:03Just so you understand, I was the thinnest person in the class.
2:46:08So when I got into college my weight was around 50 kilograms.
2:46:12In that very college I have just told you about, where I had my shoelaces tied and etc.
2:46:15You wanna know what happened before that?
2:46:16The reason why I couldn't take this anymore.
2:46:19So this 80 kilogram dude came up to me.
2:46:22So he weighed over 30 kilograms more than I did.
2:46:24He came up to me in the school cafeteria.
2:46:26So he asked a question, I don't remember what the f**k he asked.
2:46:30So I just answered: ‘yeah.’ or something like that.
2:46:33And all of a sudden he just slammed my head with his huge ass forehead.
2:46:39After that I had a bump this big.
2:46:42Literally anyone could beat me up.
2:46:46Anyone.
2:46:48So I'm really grateful to them for making me who I am now for f**k's sake.
2:46:54On a bright note, some of them would love to work for me now.
2:47:00Tell me, how has your father's passing changed you?
2:47:02Has it at all? That's the question.
2:47:07I found out about it on my stream.
2:47:09So I just cried on stream for f**k's sake.
2:47:10Title: Mellstroy cried over his father's death on the stream.
2:47:15I was f*****g devastated.
2:47:17I knew that he had had cancer and Tsur (brother) was looking after him.
2:47:20Tsur hadn't been to Moscow for half a year, he was looking after my dad in Gomel.
2:47:24I couldn't really come back to Gomel, only..
2:47:27My dad was in horrible condition, he had terminal cancer where his liver had metastasis.
2:47:36That's really f*****g sad.
2:47:39It was such a shame that I had only seen him five months prior to that.
2:47:44To be quite honest, Tsur offered me to come incognito
2:47:52but I refused. I got scared.
2:47:53For the funeral or?..
2:47:55..no, it was when he was still alive.
2:47:58But it was pretty obvious that he was dying.
2:48:01Were you mad at yourself for not doing this?
2:48:03I don't think so.
2:48:05You can't change it so I don't see any point in scolding.
2:48:14Do you think he would be proud of you?
2:48:16He started his own channel. He started streaming.
2:48:17He was really surprised to find out how cool it actually was to go live and make money off of it.
2:48:22He was super curious about it.
2:48:24He actually streamed for a long time and his peak numbers were 3000 online viewers.
2:48:28Mind you I did not help him in any way.
2:48:30At all.
2:48:31I never promoted or shared any links for his streams.
2:48:34Literally a year before his death he had been streaming like that.
2:48:36He was making money. He made the most money himself.
2:48:40300 or 400 thousand rubles a month.
2:48:42He was proud of himself.
2:48:44I think that he is proud of me.
2:48:48When Tsur and I were fighting he would always try to reconcile us.
2:48:51Now it's my mom who does this.
2:48:52I think he is proud of me and Tsur. F**k. He was proud.
2:48:57Would you wanna go back to Gomel at some point?
2:48:59Just to hang out.
2:49:00Listen, I wouldn't be able to live there.
2:49:03But I couldn't live there anymore.
2:49:04My life would never be peaceful again
2:49:08But I would mind coming for a week or two ust to walk around the city.
2:49:13See some people, see their reactions to me.
2:49:15They would be surprised too.
2:49:19I'm a very well-known person in Gomel.
2:49:21To see my native places.
2:49:24To pay a visit to my grandmother.
2:49:26You know, my grandmother she is old now.
2:49:29She actually called me not long ago saying that she would not make it to next year.
2:49:32She asked me if I could come see her before she dies.
2:49:34s it possible to bring her here instead?
2:49:35She is super old..
2:49:37She won't be able to travel?
2:49:38People are f*****g with me just because I decided not to serve my military duty.
2:49:42I'm being judged for not doing anything bad. Literally nothing.
2:49:48You see, you must pay your duties to your motherland…f*****g b**ch.
2:49:50I understand if they convicted me of something really bad that I had actually done.
2:49:53There are few options.
2:49:55I would go straight to TDF for 6 days and they would fine me.
2:50:00Or public service for not doing my military duty.
2:50:03And when my criminal record is clean they would send me in handcuffs to the f**king army for 1.5 years
2:50:11That's how it's gonna go.
2:50:13Do you have real friends?
2:50:15Let's define a friend.
2:50:17Let's do it. What does a friend mean to you?
2:50:20I guess, a friend for me is someone who won't get happy over your loss in the first place.
2:50:25On the other hand, he would support when you're at your lowest, help you in any way.
2:50:30A friend is someone who you genuinely enjoy spending time with.
2:50:34So it's not about seeing the bad in me but also something good.
2:50:39I guess there has to be some kind of sacrifice too between friends.
2:50:41What do you imply by that?
2:50:44Would he be my friend if he decied to go snitch me out to cops if I somehow broke the law?
2:50:48Under the most stressful situations, I'd really appreciate it if my friend
2:50:57I'd really appreciate it if my friend kept his mouth shut when he is being interrogated by the police.
2:51:01Even if I broke the law.
2:51:02Now, do you have at least one real friend?
2:51:05Who meets the criteria?
2:51:06Tsurim does. My brother and hence my friend, right?
2:51:12Absolutely.
2:51:13My mom also meets the criteria.
2:51:17Even though it's a bit harder to call my mom a friend.
2:51:20I mean I enjoy spending time with her and everything but it's different.
2:51:24I think there is one guy. At least one.
2:51:26Who?
2:51:27His name is Sanya.
2:51:29He is 4-5 years younger than me.
2:51:31He is pretty smart, he helps me too. I think of him as my friend.
2:51:38You know, I have this problem that we still sort things out with people who are surrounding me.
2:51:44Meaning I want to be friends with them not only
2:51:47when I win money and then we just go blow it all on alcohol or some stupid shit.
2:51:53I can't really call such people my friends.
2:51:56Really, I just can't.
2:51:57Who are they?
2:51:58They are my companions. I wouldn't even call them ass-lickers, no.
2:52:04I think I need their presence because being alone sucks ass. It's horrible.
2:52:11Has this guy named Igor ever been your friend?
2:52:15To be honest, yes.
2:52:17You know what? I'm gonna tell you right away,
2:52:19I'm the person who made him lick women's feet. Yes.
2:52:22Yes.
2:52:22So for me content was more important than friendship.
2:52:25You made him lick feet,
2:52:28kissed his girl,
2:52:30threw his phone, made him cry.
2:52:32I think the kiss with his girl was agreed upon for the content with him.
2:52:36But I feel like he didn't really mind.
2:52:39Well yeah, I agree with you. This is not exactly normal. But that's the point.
2:52:44Everything comes down to hype once again.
2:52:46Career comes first.
2:52:47It is more important than friends, than f*****g everything, even more important than health.
2:52:50What did you feel when he took a knife?
2:52:53This happened..
2:52:56when I called his girl, Marina, but she was his ex at the time.
2:53:01She told me on that stream he had been stealing money from me.
2:53:04That's why he tried to f*****g stab himself or something.
2:53:07So that I would stop talking to her
2:53:10because she could reveal a lot more stuff about him, as I get it.
2:53:13Some real f*****g dirt. Horrible.
2:53:15The thing is, Igor confessed that he in fact had been stealing money from me.
2:53:20Maybe I deserved it, maybe not.
2:53:23From the viewer's perspective
2:53:26his looks like bullying.
2:53:28I really don't see any difference between that and shoelaces tied together or cut up belt.
2:53:34I think I can call it friendship
2:53:38because we did all the normal things together: We would smile, laugh, go to restaurants, clubs, meet girls, etc.
2:53:46Yes, Igor is a bit dumb but you know what we called that?
2:53:53We made an inside joke about it, handsome Igor has produced some content.
2:53:55He didn't get triggered to that.
2:53:56Yes, but...
2:53:56It's just that he was happy.
2:53:59He was truly happy.
2:54:00All of us were.
2:54:02The only thing that it was a bit ruthless, I think.
2:54:03At times he didn't look happy at all,
2:54:06and one could assume you tried to assert yourself on Igor because of your past college experience.
2:54:11Or that.
2:54:13This looked anything but ideal friendship.
2:54:16This is understandable.
2:54:17But this is toxic friendship.
2:54:18Listen, we all had to turn a blind eye to deal with this, him included.
2:54:20It's because we were growing.
2:54:22And we were paid to do that.
2:54:24I don't think you can compare it to college, really.
2:54:26Why do you think Budka betrayed you?
2:54:29I really didn't like him
2:54:32I don't know, I feel like he enjoyed it.
2:54:35He was a really close assistant of mine, sometimes he would sleep in my apartment.
2:54:40We didn't sleep in the same bed, obviously.
2:54:42He would crash on the couch in the living room.
2:54:45Why did he leak your information?
2:54:48I assume...
2:54:53he really loves money.
2:54:56He doesn't have any morals.
2:54:59He can tolerate a lot of stuff
2:55:02because of that but his true identity will reveal itself in the end anyway.
2:55:05He has a very cunning side to him. That's the way he is
2:55:08But I really liked him as my personal assistant.
2:55:13Even when people were mad at him, called him names
2:55:15or just were rude to him.
2:55:18He would never get offended at all, he would just smile.
2:55:20He understood and said: ‘Everything is fine.’
2:55:24Well you were the one who told him to go f**k himself.
2:55:25Yes I did.
2:55:27He was my antistress-toy
2:55:29Could it be that he just got tired of being just an anti-stress toy?
2:55:32Just tell me about it then.
2:55:33Just say that you're really f*****g tired.
2:55:36Why would you lie or, even worse, rat me out?
2:55:37He tolerated for the money.
2:55:41At some point he thought he couldn't take it anymore, he got tired of not being taken seriously.
2:55:46That's why I will rat him out, that will teach him a f*****g lesson. Okay. Makes sense.
2:55:49You treat people like shit, they do the same in response
2:55:51Okay.
2:55:53Then it's all fair.
2:55:56Is it true that you really trusted him?
2:55:59He used to be in my inner-circle.
2:56:01Is it true that half of your cars are legally his?
2:56:05Wow, a great question.
2:56:06Yes it is true.
2:56:09How the f**k did you find that out?
2:56:10Word on the street.
2:56:12Just so you know, he legally owns them up to this day.
2:56:18Yes!
2:56:20Even after all
2:56:22he legally owns them up to this day.
2:56:25Can he take them from you?
2:56:26He can, yes
2:56:29He can?
2:56:30But I don't think he will.
2:56:32Why?
2:56:33Well, someone will randomly beat him up.
2:56:36He will get beaten up every week.
2:56:37But he hasn't done that so everything's fine. Eveything is f*****g A.
2:56:40Just for your information, I still help him to this day.
2:56:45I send him money for clothes, food.
2:56:47So you maintain good relationship?
2:56:48Yes we do.
2:56:52Does your health bother you?
2:56:54Yes.
2:56:54I have been thinking about it a lot for the past year or two.
2:56:57This is good.
2:56:58Sometimes I skip a party or drink less because of that.
2:57:05Last check-up I had was around 3 years ago.
2:57:09This is not good.
2:57:11I was gonna go and check all of my systems.
2:57:13I'm sure will find something because of the stress, alcohol..
2:57:17The food that is not always healthy.
2:57:23Do you believe in the concept of sin and reckoning?
2:57:26No, never have.
2:57:28But it's as if my life proves me wrong.
2:57:30If someone wrongs another person..
2:57:31..insulted or hurt his feelings.
2:57:34As if some shit happens to you after some time.
2:57:37In general, I don't think I believe in it.
2:57:41You don't?
2:57:42I'm more of a realist.
2:57:45Don't you think that the stuff you're going through:
2:57:49betrayals, addictions, rock bottom, etc...
2:57:54This is a boomerang.
2:57:55I think this is just a coincidence.
2:57:57I mean seriously, I gamble all the time and..
2:58:02You don't have to be Einstein to know what this leads to.
2:58:06Even without doing anything bad to other people.
2:58:08Can you call yourself a lonely person?
2:58:10You know there is two degrees to loneliness.
2:58:18When the crowd surrounds you but nobody understands you.
2:58:21And sometimes there is only one person instead of the crowd
2:58:24but he understands you completely and that makes you not a lonely f**king person.
2:58:29So in that sense...
2:58:33I think I have a little problem here right now.
2:58:35I don't think I'm lonely. No. I'm really not.
2:58:40When you get drunk with the crowd,
2:58:42all the girls are next to you...
2:58:45don’t you feel lonely at that moment?
2:58:47I do feel a bit unease, yes.
2:58:51I think there is some loneliness in that.
2:58:54Sometimes you enjoy talking. You know, play mafia.
2:58:57Last time they taught me how to play that game.
2:58:59I really loved it, it was so much fun.
2:59:00We played for 5 or 6 hours straight.
2:59:03To sum up, there is a certain degree of loneliness
2:59:07but it can be fixed.
2:59:09By socializing.
2:59:10Do you want to get married and have kids?
2:59:13I don't know about getting married but I would love to have kids.
2:59:15Why not?
2:59:16You know, it's somewhat a natural instinct that comes from within, to procreate.
2:59:21And when you do end up procreating you immediately...
2:59:25Stop thinking about all the stupid shit as..
2:59:31"Okay, maybe I just need to k**l myself and not carry on the family line?"
2:59:35Would you call yourself a happy person?
2:59:37More yes than not.
2:59:38It is hard but it is slowly changing.
2:59:40I was apathetic, then you came and it's all gone now, I feel a lot better.
2:59:46When were you truly happy last time?
2:59:49To be quite honest, when I was 17 or 18. I didn't even drink at the time.
2:59:56When I was undressing at Chat Roulette.
3:00:00That was the happiest time of my life.
3:00:02If you could go back to your 17...
3:00:07and give yourself one piece of advice...
3:00:08...what would it be?
3:00:10Jump off of an alcohol and gambling train when you are 22.
3:00:15Just promise yourself that. And that's all.
3:00:17Perhaps, it's better not to jump on it in the first place?
3:00:19Listen, I really have become the most popular Russian speaking gambling streamer.
3:00:24I'd say I'm pretty successful in my industry.
3:00:26Take Morgenstern for example, he tried streaming.
3:00:29What was his viewer count? That's ridiculous.
3:00:31Really. Litvin, for example, also said, that I'll be housekeeper...
3:00:34if he streamed gambling even at his 5th stream he would have at least 10-15 thousand less audience than I do.
3:00:41They don't even know what they are talking about.
3:00:43How to conduct such a stream,
3:00:46what strings to pull to get emotional response from the audience, how to act, etc..
3:00:49You're saying it as if you're really proud of your gambling streams.
3:00:55Well I am succesful, yes.
3:00:55In the end, you are an addict. Meaning an addiction is a sickness.
3:01:00So you, being an addict, trying to gamble with yourself, your own pains and issues.
3:01:08I have a unique trait.
3:01:12I was able to monetize my weakness.
3:01:18What do you think future holds for you when you're 30?
3:01:23Well if I can't get over my weaknesses,
3:01:25alcohol, gambling addiction
3:01:26then it's very sad.
3:01:29If I can then I will be the happiest person ever, for myself.
3:01:36How many times have you promised yourself something and lied to yourself?
3:01:39Multiple times that's for sure.
3:01:41This had to do with two things..
3:01:42Gambling.
3:01:43A promise not to take any loans anymore or not to gamble anymore.
3:01:47I broke those promises.
3:01:48Same with alcohol.
3:01:50Turns out, your inner drive is weaker than these two sicknesses of yours?
3:01:55Perhaps, I need more attempts.
3:01:57Not everyone gives up after their first attempt.
3:01:59It doesn't mean that I will give up trying though.
3:02:02Have you considered a rehab?
3:02:04That's the last resort.
3:02:05I will go to some really nice place without any network or anything.
3:02:08Something like Zubarev was telling about but with more comfort.
3:02:11He was locked in a freakin' basement.
3:02:14Yes but he has a different story.
3:02:15He was there so because he was a threat to himself.
3:02:24I just want to live in a remote village for couple months and it will be fine.
3:02:27Let's say that you got into debt that you can't get out of, your popularity is gone.
3:02:33What now?
3:02:33Can you imagine this?
3:02:35Then...
3:02:36I would lower the bar of my own morals...
3:02:38and become inhumane to get on a hype train again.
3:02:42I might even get into situations where I will be absolutely wrong
3:02:47but at least this will bring my f**king numbers back.
3:02:49You're playing with gas because you need gas?
3:02:51I'm playing with matches to spark up my fire for my career.
3:02:54Everyone does that. Literally everyone.
3:02:57But everyone thinks they're some f**king saints
3:03:00You do realize that you have an image of a evil person who beat up women...
3:03:07who promoted and hooked on gambling a lot of people...
3:03:11who, in the end, made his friend lick feet.
3:03:15How do you feel about this?
3:03:18You forgot to include that I was a p***phile too.
3:03:21We can add that to the list.
3:03:22Yes we can.
3:03:23I don't give a shit about that at all.
3:03:26It happened, so what?
3:03:29If you knew all the details or if you were in my shoes, you would probably do the same.
3:03:35Maybe you wouldn't, who the f**k knows.
3:03:36I beat women…
3:03:38Anyway, I took full responsibility for my deeds already.
3:03:40Do you consider yourself evil?
3:03:42Do I consider myself evil?
3:03:43You know what's gonna happen?
3:03:45Everyone thinks I'm evil but in a couple of years they will probably realize that I actually wasn't one.
3:03:53Do you want it?
3:03:54Do I think that I'm evil? F**k no I don't.
3:04:00So people who see the evil in you, they are mistaken?
3:04:03Clearly I'm far from being perfect.
3:04:05The before mentioned list was pretty lengthy and extended I would say.
3:04:08F**k yeah it was.
3:04:10Well, I do believe I have more positive and kind inside of me than negative.
3:04:18Are you tired of being Mellstroy?
3:04:20Not yet.
3:04:21Do you ever wish you want to escape somewhere and live another life?
3:04:24I actually had such thoughts...
3:04:26but I think I'd go insane after a few weeks or a couple of months.
3:04:31I even have a thought to travel Amazon forests, Africa, collect some shit.
3:04:38Some rare f**king butterflies, for example.
3:04:41A collection of super rare f**king insects.
3:04:45You know. Put them back on my shelf.
3:04:49And each time I would pass by I would remember everything I had to go through to catch it.
3:04:57And that is hella cool.
3:04:59Why insects?
3:05:01It doesn't have to be insects. That just came randomly.
3:05:04We can catch a f**king rhino, wax coat him and put him in the f**king living room, alive.
3:05:11Do you really want to kill a rhino?
3:05:13Or a butterfly for that matter?
3:05:14— No, no... — It is so pretty...
3:05:16I want to come up to a rhino,
3:05:19give him 20 kg worth of meat
3:05:20so that he d**s while being high from overeating.
3:05:24And then wax coat him and bring him on the helicopter back home.
3:05:26Do you think rhinos eat meat?
3:05:28Are they herbivorous?
3:05:29Anyway, I want to give him 50 f**king kilograms of grass.
3:05:30An urge to destruct.
3:05:33Let him live.
3:05:34Make one of a drywall.
3:05:36Or just take pictures.
3:05:37Then put them on your walls.
3:05:38There you have the memory from the trip.
3:05:40You don't have to k**l anyone for this.
3:05:42That's a really f**king smart idea.
3:05:44Can you purchase everything?
3:05:46No.
3:05:46Name me 3 things that you can't buy.
3:05:49I'd want to say your health but can certainly improve it with money, not necessarily buy.
3:05:55That's why yes, your health.
3:05:57True love.
3:05:58You will never be able to buy true love for any type of money.
3:06:00That kind of love when you lose your mind completely
3:06:01so that the person decides to stalk you, like I did, huh?
3:06:04This shit can't be bought.
3:06:06I think you can't buy a true family either.
3:06:08Can you buy respect?
3:06:09Yes.
3:06:10Do you remember that feeling when you go outside...
3:06:13and there are bunch of kids 6-7 year olds and all of you are waiting for...
3:06:16that guy to come out just because he had a PlayStation.
3:06:22Or computer for that matter and everyone is shocked: ‘How the f**k?’.
3:06:25Or he comes out and he has, you remember those caps?
3:06:28Yes, of course.
3:06:30So he has an insane collection of caps
3:06:32and everyone knows this guy's parents are very loaded.
3:06:34This is not exactly about respect.
3:06:35This is about being envious.
3:06:36Of course they envy him and they even lick his ass.
3:06:40Meaning they're trying to…
3:06:42That's an artificial respect.
3:06:43They lick ass so the rich person would be loyal to them or showed them some attention.
3:06:48Do you think Mellstroy is respected?
3:06:53Depends on who you're asking.
3:06:54The industry, the audience, random people in general.
3:06:59I'd say 60 to 40. 60% respect, 40% hate me.
3:07:03How do you think you will be remembered?
3:07:08How will I be remembered?
3:07:14Well..Zoomer might remember me as a..
3:07:18..guy who slammed a girl's head on the f**king table.
3:07:20He promoted gambling, ew, f**k no.
3:07:22Something like this.
3:07:24Someone will remember my positive traits. Someone will say I grew up watching his streams.
3:07:29Someone might say...
3:07:30Someone might say...
3:07:31he had the best parties.
3:07:35Someone might say...
3:07:36..that he had the best gambling streams ever.
3:07:39Yes, even that.
3:07:41Very few people would say this, but it's still cool.
3:07:44So you will be remembered overall.
3:07:46I would say they will remember more positive stuff than negative ones.

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