Melanie Phillips: Why the West Fell for the Palestinian Lie — Transcript

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1. 0:00I think there's a problem in the West
2. 0:02about how people in the West see the
3. 0:05Palestinians in general. Um, I'm not
4. 0:10actually persuaded that the vast
5. 0:13majority make a distinction between
6. 0:15Hamas and the Palestinians. I think that
7. 0:17they think that Hamas is just the more
8. 0:19extreme version of a perfectly
9. 0:22reasonable
10. 0:24um uh point of view, a reasonable
11. 0:27resistance
12. 0:28uh movement. Um that they don't approve
13. 0:31of uh murder and torture and kidnap. Of
14. 0:35course, if you're British, you don't
15. 0:37approve of that. But nevertheless,
16. 0:40the cause they're fighting for is a
17. 0:42perfectly just one.
18. 0:43Hamas is like the IRA, let's say. Yes.
19. 0:46Yes. It's rather similar. Uh uh uh
20. 0:50that's some people think that some
21. 0:52people in Britain do understand that the
22. 0:54Hamas have done what they've done and
23. 0:56they stand for what they stand for. Uh
24. 0:59but um
25. 1:01the real problem in the West and in
26. 1:04Britain in particular is as you suggest
27. 1:07support for the Palestinians in general
28. 1:10and the uh refusal to believe that they
29. 1:14are
30. 1:15um that they represent a cause that is a
31. 1:18bad cause. uh people in the west in
32. 1:21Britain uh believe uh in so far as they
33. 1:24think about Israel at all and very large
34. 1:26number don't think about Israel at all
35. 1:28but in so far as they think about it and
36. 1:30they kind of take a side uh the elites
37. 1:33they will take the Palestinian side
38. 1:35because they believe uh in the lie
39. 1:38that's been told for the last half
40. 1:39century that the indigenous people of uh
41. 1:43the land of Israel were the Palestinian
42. 1:46Muslims. Um along came the Jews after
43. 1:50the Holocaust. Uh because of sympathy
44. 1:52for their plight. Uh the Western world
45. 1:55plonked them down in uh Palestine where
46. 1:59they drove out the indigenous population
47. 2:02and those Muslims who were left, those
48. 2:04Palestinians who were left they have
49. 2:06oppressed ever since. That's basically
50. 2:09what people believe. And they believe um
51. 2:13they believe that because they know no
52. 2:14history of Israel. They know none of the
53. 2:18history of the Jewish people, none of
54. 2:19the history of the Middle East. And
55. 2:21because they're told this all the time
56. 2:22by their mainly left-wing university
57. 2:25teachers and so on,
58. 2:28um they have no idea that the Jews are
59. 2:31the only people for whom the land of
60. 2:33Israel was ever their national kingdom
61. 2:35uh centuries before Islam was even
62. 2:38created. They have absolutely no idea at
63. 2:40all. Um, so there's ignorance um and
64. 2:44ideology because they think that the
65. 2:47Palestinians are like other uh uh
66. 2:50developing world peoples uh poor and
67. 2:54oppressed because they've got brown
68. 2:55skins. They think Israel is a
69. 2:57white-skinned population and is
70. 3:00therefore it must be white because it's
71. 3:02western and it's an adjunct of America.
72. 3:05If you tell them that the majority of
73. 3:08Israelis are brown or black skinned
74. 3:10like me, well are not black, but
75. 3:12they are they they can't process this.
76. 3:16Um, so there's all of that, but I think
77. 3:19that, you know, Israel itself has a lot
78. 3:21to answer for in this misapprehension.
79. 3:24Mhm.
80. 3:24The Jewish communities of the diaspora
81. 3:26have a lot to answer for because nobody
82. 3:29has actually told the truth about this.
83. 3:33In the Jewish communities of the
84. 3:34diaspora, particularly in Britain, which
85. 3:35is what I know about. Um, I would say
86. 3:39the majority
87. 3:41believe in a two-state solution. Why do
88. 3:43they believe that? Because they believe
89. 3:44basically that this is a fight over
90. 3:46land. Because this is how it's been
91. 3:50projected for a century that you have a
92. 3:53piece of land, you have two peoples,
93. 3:58the Jews, the Palestinians,
94. 4:01each of which has a claim to the land.
95. 4:06We in the West can't arbitrate over that
96. 4:09claim. But clearly, if you have a piece
97. 4:11of land being fought over by two
98. 4:13contesting parties, what you do is you
99. 4:16negotiate. You bang heads together. You
100. 4:18make them separate the land. You make
101. 4:21them divide the land between them. End
102. 4:23of problem. That's a two-state solution.
103. 4:25One lot has that. The other lot has
104. 4:27that. Very neat. The problem is that the
105. 4:31problem to which this is the solution is
106. 4:33not identified correctly. It is not a
107. 4:37problem over land. It is not a problem
108. 4:40over the division of land. If it was a
109. 4:42problem with the division of land, it
110. 4:44would have been sold in the 1930s when
111. 4:46the Palestinian Arabs were offered part
112. 4:49of the Holy Land as a state of their own
113. 4:53and they refused and went to war instead
114. 4:55to prevent the Jews from having a
115. 4:57homeland in any part of that land. That
116. 5:00has continued ever since. The
117. 5:02Palestinian cause is one of
118. 5:04exterminating the state of Israel and
119. 5:07removing
120. 5:09uh uh Israel as a Jewish homeland
121. 5:13altogether. And not only is
122. 5:15Palestinianism
123. 5:17aimed at removing and destroying Israel
124. 5:20and removing the Jewish homeland, it's
125. 5:22also based on the big lie which rewrites
126. 5:26the Jews out of their own history in the
127. 5:29land. It pretends that the indigenous
128. 5:34people of the land were the Muslims,
129. 5:35Palestinians, and that the Jews are
130. 5:39interlopers where in fact the reverse is
131. 5:40true. The indigenous people of the land
132. 5:43are the Jews and the Palestinians do not
133. 5:46exist as a people. They say it
134. 5:48themselves. They've said it themselves
135. 5:50over and over again. We invented it. We
136. 5:53invented it in order to twist the minds
137. 5:58of the west and in order to present
138. 6:00ourselves having a claim to the land. So
139. 6:02this is a lie from start to finish. A
140. 6:05big lie now.
141. 6:08Bad enough that the universities have
142. 6:10been pumping this out for four or five
143. 6:12decades. It's bad enough that they have
144. 6:14been backed by a very sophisticated,
145. 6:18hugely financed, very uh intelligently
146. 6:23calibrated campaign by the Palestinian
147. 6:27uh
148. 6:29by by Palestinian supporters by by by
149. 6:32Palestinian Arabs and their supporters
150. 6:34in the world to fry the minds of the
151. 6:37West.
152. 6:38uh bad enough that's all happened. But
153. 6:40it's happened in the way that it has and
154. 6:43has and and has no has no um no argument
155. 6:47is permitted against this uh myth this
156. 6:50lie uh because of the silence of the
157. 6:53Jewish people themselves, the silence of
158. 6:55Israel, the silence of the Jewish
159. 6:57diaspora. They may invest against as
160. 7:00they do the excesses of Palestinian
161. 7:03rejectionism.
162. 7:05They may say uh at most Israel will say
163. 7:09they don't want to choose they don't
164. 7:10want to stay to their own. They want to
165. 7:12destroy us. Absolutely correct. But what
166. 7:15Israel doesn't say and what the Jewish
167. 7:18community doesn't say is that this is
168. 7:20not a fight over land. This is an
169. 7:23Islamic
170. 7:25inspired holy war against the Jewish
171. 7:30homeland on the basis that the Jews
172. 7:32cannot be allowed to live in their own
173. 7:36homeland and rule themselves. It's
174. 7:38against
175. 7:40Islam.
176. 7:42Um, and that's what it actually is. Um,
177. 7:46and Israel doesn't say it. And Israel
178. 7:48doesn't say the Palestinians
179. 7:51uh are not actually Palestinians. That
180. 7:54Palestinianism is a thing that was
181. 7:56invented uh in order to create a myth.
182. 8:00But that actually if you look at what
183. 8:01the Palestinians so-called are saying
184. 8:06um they're not talking about a two-state
185. 8:08solution. They're talking they're not
186. 8:09even talking about Israel. They're
187. 8:11talking about eradicating Jews. Here are
188. 8:14the videos. They're all on memory. the
189. 8:17wonderful website that that translates
190. 8:19all these videos, they're all there.
191. 8:21Israel virtually never uses these
192. 8:24things. It never says to the West,
193. 8:27um, your two-state solution is the
194. 8:31answer to a problem you have yourselves
195. 8:33misidentified
196. 8:35and that you are the reason this is
197. 8:38continuing. Your support for this false
198. 8:41cause is the reason that it continues.
199. 8:44Nobody says that from Israel and nobody
200. 8:46in the Jewish community says that in
201. 8:47Britain. Nobody. Uh nobody says the
202. 8:50whole thing is based on a lie.
203. 8:51Palestinianism is rubbish. There is no
204. 8:53such thing as the Palestinian people.
205. 8:55This is a lie invented to destroy us in
206. 8:58Israel as a physical country and to
207. 9:01remove us as Jews from our own history.
208. 9:04It is the worst and most savage kind of
209. 9:07cultural appropriation conceivable.
210. 9:11that's what's going on and it's fried
211. 9:12all your minds. They're not saying that.
212. 9:15So, how can anyone know this? And so,
213. 9:18when you ask, you know,
214. 9:20how can we solve this problem of the
215. 9:22West saying, well, the Hamas are bad,
216. 9:25but Palestinians are good. The way
217. 9:28through that is to say, um, individual
218. 9:31Palestinians may be fine. Some of them
219. 9:33undoubtedly just want a happy life. They
220. 9:36are the victims of their own people.
221. 9:38These are the ways in which they are the
222. 9:39victims of their own people. But they've
223. 9:42been told a lie. You're being told a
224. 9:45lie. The lie is that the Palestinian
225. 9:47cause is a just cause. It is an evil
226. 9:50cause. This is why it's evil. And it is
227. 9:53evil because it not only wants to
228. 9:54destroy Israel, the only country in the
229. 9:57world which is targeted for
230. 9:58annihilation, it wants to remove the
231. 10:00Jews from their own history. And it's
232. 10:03evil. And you should be opposing this at
233. 10:05source. You should the west not be
234. 10:09funding these people. You should not be
235. 10:11funding the Palestinian Authority. You
236. 10:13should be treating them as political,
237. 10:16diplomatic and social paras.
238. 10:21You instead you're treating them as
239. 10:23statesmen in waiting. You're treating
240. 10:25Israel as the rogue element in this
241. 10:27because it dares not to want to be
242. 10:30annihilated.
243. 10:32That's what Israel should be saying. It
244. 10:34doesn't say any of this. It could be
245. 10:36said. It should be said. And it's not a
246. 10:40question of, you know, how can you show
247. 10:42people that um there is no distinction
248. 10:45between Hamas and other Palestinians.
249. 10:48It's how do you show people that the
250. 10:50Palestinian cause itself is based on a
251. 10:54lie and is the source of intellectual
252. 10:57and moral corruption in the West which
253. 11:00has knocked the West in my view
254. 11:04completely off its moral compass. I
255. 11:07think the importance of the Palestinian
256. 11:09cause to the moral, intellectual and
257. 11:13cultural disintegration of the West,
258. 11:15which is underway, cannot be
259. 11:17overestimated
260. 11:19because it is the quintessential example
261. 11:23of how you no longer as a western
262. 11:27society, you are no longer able to
263. 11:30distinguish between truth and lies,
264. 11:33victim and victimizer.
265. 11:36And as a result, you take the side of
266. 11:38the aggressor over the victim and you
267. 11:41punish the victim by upholding the lies.
268. 11:44And this has, I think, cut a sway
269. 11:47through Western society and western
270. 11:49culture far beyond the issue of Israel
271. 11:53and the Middle East. I think it's acted
272. 11:54as a kind of moral cancer.
273. 11:58Palestinianism
274. 12:00is a moral cancer in the West which has
275. 12:03corrupted its intellectual elites, fried
276. 12:07the collective brain and destroyed the
277. 12:10West's ability to distinguish truth from
278. 12:12lies and the ability therefore to defend
279. 12:15its own way of I