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  1. 0:03Look at this fruit, you all know it,
  2. 0:05right? It's the pomegranate, a fruit
  3. 0:08that has accompanied humanity for
  4. 0:10thousands of years. But today I want to
  5. 0:14tell you something you likely don't
  6. 0:16know, because inside these small red
  7. 0:19seeds hide substances which, once they
  8. 0:22have reached our intestines, can be
  9. 0:24transformed by the specific bacteria
  10. 0:26that make their home within our colon.
  11. 0:30And do you know what's most surprising?
  12. 0:34Some of the metabolites produced by
  13. 0:36these bacteria are currently being
  14. 0:37studied for their possible role in the
  15. 0:39functioning of the mitochondria. Did
  16. 0:42you get it right? We are talking about
  17. 0:44those specific structures that allow
  18. 0:46our cells to produce a large portion of
  19. 0:48the energy that they require for their
  20. 0:50functions. But there's another
  21. 0:52interesting fact. Two people who eat
  22. 0:55exactly the same pomegranate will
  23. 0:58produce very different amounts of these
  24. 1:01substances because it also depends on
  25. 1:04the bacteria that live in their
  26. 1:06intestines. Today I'm going to take you
  27. 1:09on a journey. We'll start with the
  28. 1:12millennia-old history of the
  29. 1:14pomegranate, discover what it contains
  30. 1:16and follow some of its molecules
  31. 1:19through our digestive system. We will
  32. 1:22enter the colon, meet the intestinal
  33. 1:25microbiota and get to the mitochondria
  34. 1:27and finally we will also talk about a
  35. 1:30very interesting topic, research on the
  36. 1:32pomegranate and urinary tract
  37. 1:34infections. I am Dr. De Mari and this
  38. 1:37is a new episode of our series, Inside
  39. 1:39the Human Body. Before we enter into
  40. 1:45our body, let us take a small journey
  41. 1:48back in time. The pomegranate is the
  42. 1:52fruit of the pomegranate tree, a plant
  43. 1:54known scientifically as Punica granatum
  44. 1:56. Its origins are between the
  45. 2:00Aesculapian and the regions of
  46. 2:01modern-day Iran. From these lands it
  47. 2:05gradually spread towards India, the
  48. 2:07Middle East and the Mediterranean. It
  49. 2:10was already known to ancient
  50. 2:11civilizations. The Egyptians considered
  51. 2:14it a symbol of life and prosperity. In
  52. 2:18ancient Greece it was linked to the
  53. 2:20myth of Persephone. According to the
  54. 2:23mythological story, Persephone ate some
  55. 2:25pomegranate seeds in the kingdom of
  56. 2:27Aden. That gesture linked her to the
  57. 2:30underworld and became part of the myth
  58. 2:32that explained the changing of the
  59. 2:34seasons. And think about how
  60. 2:37fascinating this symbolism is, a fruit
  61. 2:39that contains hundreds of small seeds
  62. 2:42has become a symbol of fertility,
  63. 2:44abundance and rebirth in many crops.
  64. 2:48But today, science allows us to look
  65. 2:50beyond the symbolism, because this
  66. 2:52structure, which is so particular,
  67. 2:55contains a phytochemical composition
  68. 2:57that is quite interesting. Let's start
  69. 3:03with a distinction. Those things we
  70. 3:06commonly call grains are actually arils
  71. 3:09, which are the juicy structures that
  72. 3:11surround the seeds. They are the part
  73. 3:14that we normally eat. 100 g of arils
  74. 3:17contain about 83 kcalories. They
  75. 3:21contain water, carbohydrates, about 4 g
  76. 3:23of fiber, potassium and small amounts
  77. 3:26of various vitamins. But the most
  78. 3:28interesting part from a research point
  79. 3:30of view concerns the phytochemical
  80. 3:32compounds. Let's start with the
  81. 3:34anthocyanins. These are natural
  82. 3:37pigments which contribute to giving the
  83. 3:39pomegranate its characteristic deep red
  84. 3:41color. They belong to the large family
  85. 3:44of polyphenols. Then we find the
  86. 3:49ellagitans and here we encounter a
  87. 3:51molecule that has been particularly
  88. 3:54studied, punnicaagin. Punica lain is
  89. 3:58mainly present in the peel and internal
  90. 4:00membranes of the fruit. Here you see,
  91. 4:05this part is not the one we normally
  92. 4:08eat, yet it contains significant
  93. 4:11concentrations of some polyphenols.
  94. 4:15This allows us to understand something
  95. 4:17fundamental. Eating the arils, drinking
  96. 4:20a juice and taking a concentrated
  97. 4:23extract does not mean introducing
  98. 4:25exactly the same substances into the
  99. 4:27body in the same quantity. It depends
  100. 4:31on the part of the fruit used, the
  101. 4:32processing method and the
  102. 4:34concentrations of the compound. And it
  103. 4:36is a distinction that will become
  104. 4:38particularly important when we get into
  105. 4:41scientific studies. But now comes the
  106. 4:43most fascinating part. What happens to
  107. 4:46these molecules when they enter our
  108. 4:48digestive system? Imagine eating a
  109. 4:55portion of pomegranate; you chew it,
  110. 4:57you swallow it, and then the contents
  111. 5:00finally reach your stomach. Then it
  112. 5:04passes into the small intestine where
  113. 5:06numerous digestive and absorption
  114. 5:08processes take place, but not all the
  115. 5:10compounds in the pomegranate are
  116. 5:12completely absorbed in this first part
  117. 5:14of the journey. Therefore, certain
  118. 5:18tannins undergo a transformation during
  119. 5:20the digestive process, subsequently
  120. 5:22releasing agagic acid. A portion of
  121. 5:25these compounds reaches the colon and
  122. 5:27here they meet an extraordinary
  123. 5:29ecosystem, the intestinal microbiota.
  124. 5:32We are talking about a community made
  125. 5:34up of billions of microorganisms,
  126. 5:36including bacteria that participate in
  127. 5:38numerous metabolic transformations.
  128. 5:41Some of these bacteria possess the
  129. 5:43unique ability to transform ellagic
  130. 5:45acid into a specific family of
  131. 5:46metabolites which are known as
  132. 5:48urolithins. These include urolithins A
  133. 5:52and B, as well as other intermediate
  134. 5:54molecules. Now, be careful, these
  135. 5:57substances are not simply already
  136. 6:00present in the fruit, in the quantities
  137. 6:02that we can find after intestinal
  138. 6:04transformation; they are partly the
  139. 6:07result of the work of our
  140. 6:08microorganisms. Therefore, the
  141. 6:11microbiota does not simply coexist with
  142. 6:14us, it participates in the chemical
  143. 6:16transformation of some substances
  144. 6:18introduced with food. And this is where
  145. 6:20I want to ask you a question. Do you
  146. 6:23believe that we all share the exact
  147. 6:26same types of bacteria within our
  148. 6:28intestinal systems? Of course not. So,
  149. 6:31if the production of urolithins is also
  150. 6:33dependent on intestinal microorganisms,
  151. 6:35can we really expect that we all
  152. 6:36produce the exact same quantity of them
  153. 6:38? In this case too, the answer is no.
  154. 6:43Researchers have identified different
  155. 6:45profiles called urolithic metabiota.
  156. 6:50There are people who predominantly
  157. 6:52produce urolithin A, others who produce
  158. 6:55urolithin B together with A, and still
  159. 6:58others who do not produce detectable
  160. 7:00amounts of final urolithin under the
  161. 7:03conditions studied. These profiles are
  162. 7:07referred to as metabiotype A,
  163. 7:09metabiotype B, and metabiotype Zer. Do
  164. 7:13you understand how interesting this is?
  165. 7:16Two people may consume the exact same
  166. 7:18amount of pomegranate, but because of
  167. 7:20differences in their gut microbiota,
  168. 7:22they can go on to produce entirely
  169. 7:24different metabolites. This is one of
  170. 7:28the reasons why research is so
  171. 7:29interested in the relationship between
  172. 7:31diet, microbiota, and personalized
  173. 7:33nutrition. But can we talk about a
  174. 7:36prebiotic effect? Here we need to make
  175. 7:39a clarification. A prebiotic is defined
  176. 7:41as a substrate that is selectively used
  177. 7:44by host microorganisms which are
  178. 7:45capable of conferring a health benefit.
  179. 7:48Some dietary fibers are well-known
  180. 7:51examples. Certain polyphenols are also
  181. 7:54currently being studied for a possible
  182. 7:56microbiotic activity. But the fact that
  183. 8:00bacteria transform a substance is not
  184. 8:02enough in itself to demonstrate a
  185. 8:04prebiotic effect. For pomegranate, it
  186. 8:08is therefore more correct to speak of a
  187. 8:10possible prebiotic activity and above
  188. 8:12all of an interaction between
  189. 8:14polyphenols and gut microbiota. And
  190. 8:17this interaction brings us to the next
  191. 8:19stop on our journey. One of the most
  192. 8:22studied molecules produced by the
  193. 8:25microbiota is urolithin A. Once formed
  194. 8:27in the intestine, it can be absorbed
  195. 8:30and subsequently transformed by the
  196. 8:32body into other derivatives. Research
  197. 8:36has focused on urolithin A, in
  198. 8:38particular for its possible
  199. 8:40relationship with a cellular process
  200. 8:42called mitophagy. But what is mitophagy
  201. 8:45? To understand it, we need to go
  202. 8:48inside a cell. This is where we find
  203. 8:50the mitochondria. These are organelles
  204. 8:53that are essential for cellular energy
  205. 8:56production. We can imagine them as a
  206. 8:59system of small power plants, but
  207. 9:01mitochondria also tend to get damaged
  208. 9:04and lose efficiency over time, and the
  209. 9:06cell possesses specific systems
  210. 9:08designed to recognize and subsequently
  211. 9:11remove those that have become damaged.
  212. 9:14One of these processes is called
  213. 9:16mitophagy. It is a specialized form of
  214. 9:18autophagy that contributes to the
  215. 9:20quality control of our body's
  216. 9:22mitochondria. Well, several
  217. 9:25experimental studies have observed that
  218. 9:27urolithin A can influence some of the
  219. 9:29mechanisms involved in these processes.
  220. 9:32Clinical studies have also been
  221. 9:34conducted, utilizing purified urolithin
  222. 9:36, in order to evaluate various
  223. 9:38indicators related to both muscle
  224. 9:40function and mitochondrial function.
  225. 9:43But here comes a fundamental
  226. 9:44clarification. We must not confuse the
  227. 9:47effects that are studied with a
  228. 9:49purified molecule with those that
  229. 9:51result from the consumption of an
  230. 9:53actual food. Eating a pomegranate does
  231. 9:56not mean taking a defined dose of
  232. 9:58urolithin A because that molecule must
  233. 10:00first be produced by the microbiota and
  234. 10:03we have just seen that not everyone has
  235. 10:05the same capacity to produce it. So the
  236. 10:09research is fascinating, but we cannot
  237. 10:11claim that eating pomegranate
  238. 10:13rejuvenates the mitochondria. That
  239. 10:17would be a conclusion that goes beyond
  240. 10:19the available evidence and that is the
  241. 10:22beauty of science, it allows us to
  242. 10:24discover new mechanisms, but it also
  243. 10:26teaches us to distinguish between
  244. 10:28hypotheses of potential benefits and
  245. 10:30those that have been clinically
  246. 10:32demonstrated. Now I would like to speak
  247. 10:36to you about another topic which is
  248. 10:38currently attracting the attention of
  249. 10:40research: the potential role of
  250. 10:41pomegranate in urinary tract infections
  251. 10:43. You may have already heard of
  252. 10:48cranberries. They are a fruit that has
  253. 10:50been studied primarily for the
  254. 10:51prevention of recurrent urinary tract
  255. 10:53infections. But why? Some of its
  256. 10:56compounds, in particular certain type A
  257. 10:59proanthoidins, have been studied for
  258. 11:01their ability to hinder the adhesion of
  259. 11:04bacteria such as Escherichia colli to
  260. 11:07the cells of the urinary tract. And
  261. 11:11this is an important step because
  262. 11:13several strains of Escherichia colli
  263. 11:15responsible for urinary tract
  264. 11:16infections have structures that allow
  265. 11:19them to adhere to the urethra. For
  266. 11:23cranberry, we also have clinical
  267. 11:24studies and systemic reviews that
  268. 11:26suggest a benefit in preventing
  269. 11:28relapses, especially. But this does not
  270. 11:32mean that cranberry can cure ongoing
  271. 11:34cystitis. And pomegranate. Some
  272. 11:37experimental studies have observed
  273. 11:40antimicrobial and antibiofilm
  274. 11:42activities of extracts obtained from
  275. 11:44pomegranate. Among the compounds
  276. 11:47studied we find punicalagin,
  277. 11:49punicalanin and ellagic acid. In the
  278. 11:53laboratory, certain extracts have shown
  279. 11:55the ability to interfere with some
  280. 11:57processes involved in the growth and
  281. 12:00organization of bacteria. But we must
  282. 12:03be very precise. These results mainly
  283. 12:07pertain to preclinical experiments, and
  284. 12:09concentrated extracts that are obtained
  285. 12:11from the peel of the fruit are often
  286. 12:14utilized as well. We are not
  287. 12:17necessarily talking about the
  288. 12:18consumption of fresh seeds. There are
  289. 12:22also small studies on formulations that
  290. 12:24combine pomegranate extracts with other
  291. 12:27substances such as dimannose,
  292. 12:28prebiotics and probiotics. But when a
  293. 12:32formulation contains multiple
  294. 12:33ingredients, we cannot automatically
  295. 12:35attribute the possible result to one or
  296. 12:37the other and above all the available
  297. 12:39studies are not yet sufficient to
  298. 12:41establish that pomegranate prevents
  299. 12:43urinary tract infections in any way. So
  300. 12:46if someone tells you that eating
  301. 12:48pomegranate is exactly the same as
  302. 12:50taking cranberries to prevent urinary
  303. 12:52tract infections, you should know that
  304. 12:58this equivalence has not been
  305. 13:00demonstrated. Furthermore, if you
  306. 13:02happen to develop cystitis, especially
  307. 13:04when accompanied by fever, pain in your
  308. 13:06sides, or other significant symptoms,
  309. 13:08it is still essential that you consult
  310. 13:10with your doctor for a proper medical
  311. 13:11examination. The fruit is in no way a
  312. 13:15substitute for an approved therapy. At
  313. 13:22this point, you are probably asking
  314. 13:24yourselves: "So, how is it best to
  315. 13:26consume the pomegranate: as the whole
  316. 13:28fruit, in the form of juice, or perhaps
  317. 13:31as an extract?" From a nutritional
  318. 13:34perspective, I would generally express
  319. 13:36a preference for fresh arils because,
  320. 13:39in addition to water and phytochemicals
  321. 13:41, we also ingest dietary fiber; this
  322. 13:44fiber contributes to normal intestinal
  323. 13:46function, and a portion of it can
  324. 13:48subsequently be utilized by the various
  325. 13:51microorganisms present within the colon
  326. 13:53. Juice, on the other hand, generally
  327. 13:57contains much less fiber and it is
  328. 13:59often much easier to quickly consume
  329. 14:02the sugars present in a large quantity
  330. 14:04of fruit. This does not mean that a
  331. 14:07pomegranate juice which contains no
  332. 14:09added sugars should necessarily be
  333. 14:11considered a negative food item. It
  334. 14:13simply means that it is not
  335. 14:15nutritionally identical to the whole
  336. 14:17fruit. What about extracts? Dried
  337. 14:20extracts can be standardized so that
  338. 14:22they contain defined amounts of
  339. 14:24specific compounds, however, their
  340. 14:26final composition depends on both the
  341. 14:28raw material used and the specific
  342. 14:30extraction process applied. Furthermore
  343. 14:34, a higher concentration of polyphenols
  344. 14:36does not automatically guarantee
  345. 14:39greater clinical benefit. Extracts must
  346. 14:41be evaluated based on their composition
  347. 14:44, their safety, and the evidence that
  348. 14:46is available regarding their intended
  349. 14:48specific use. We have reached the end
  350. 14:50of our journey and we started with a
  351. 14:52fruit that has been known for thousands
  352. 14:54of years. We discovered that it
  353. 14:57contains fiber, micronutrients and
  354. 14:59numerous phytochemicals. We followed
  355. 15:02some of its polyphenols to the colon.
  356. 15:06We have seen how certain intestinal
  357. 15:08bacteria can transform them into
  358. 15:10urolithins and we have even reached the
  359. 15:13mitochondria where research is trying
  360. 15:15to better understand the possible role
  361. 15:18of one of these molecules, urolipin A.
  362. 15:20We have also understood why it is
  363. 15:22necessary to distinguish the studies
  364. 15:25conducted on extracts from the
  365. 15:26properties of the fresh fruit, but
  366. 15:29above all we have learned one thing: it
  367. 15:31is not only what we eat that matters,
  368. 15:35it is also how our body, together with
  369. 15:37the intestinal microbiota, is able to
  370. 15:40transform it. And this reminds us of
  371. 15:43how complex and fascinating the
  372. 15:45relationship between nutrition and
  373. 15:48health is. But I want to leave you with
  374. 15:51one last message. We do not need to
  375. 15:54transform every food into a drug to
  376. 15:57recognize its value. Pomegranate is not
  377. 16:01a miracle cure; rather, it is a food
  378. 16:03that can find a place in a varied and
  379. 16:06balanced diet, and its scientific
  380. 16:08history is a subject that is still
  381. 16:10entirely to be explored. If you enjoyed
  382. 16:14this episode, write to me in the
  383. 16:16comments which food you would like to
  384. 16:18explore in the next episode of Inside
  385. 16:20the Human Body. And if you would like
  386. 16:23to continue discovering how our body
  387. 16:25truly functions, please make sure to
  388. 16:27subscribe to my channel. I am Dr. De
  389. 16:30Mari. See you on the next journey
  390. 16:32inside the human body. Hi everyone.

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