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0:00There is a man [music] claiming to be a
0:01time traveler from the 2050s who will
0:03arrive at this
0:05strange location in 7 minutes.
0:08>> We were abducted. During that abduction,
0:11we were taken to the future. We saw the
0:12world and what would happen.
0:13>> What's the world going to look like in
0:142050?
0:15>> [music]
0:16>> Fire.
0:16>> Really?
0:17>> Fire.
0:18>> A lot of fire?
0:18>> Fire.
0:19>> And what he doesn't know is that at the
0:20end of the video, I'm going to put him
0:22through a lie detector test. Did you see
0:24[music] 2050?
0:25>> Yes.
0:26>> Is this a character? Are you a liar?
0:30I'm Jack. [music] It's great to
0:31officially meet you.
0:32>> Nice to meet you, too.
0:33>> Um I'm psyched, man. This is going to be
0:35great. So, let's start from the
0:37beginning.
0:38Tell me your story.
0:39>> We are Orin, a collective consciousness
0:41cyborg sent by higher civilization to
0:43warn humans of the incoming apocalypse.
0:46>> Tell me more. What's the apocalypse? War
0:48and
0:48>> Disease, famine, [screaming]
0:50environmental disaster, and
0:51technological singularity. We speak in
0:53third person because it's our collective
0:55responsibility to guide the planet from
0:56the apocalypse that we have seen in the
0:58year 2050.
1:01>> If this is true, this is the most
1:02important video I'll ever make. But if
1:04not, we're going to find out today.
1:072050. So, that's where you came from.
1:09>> Correct.
1:10>> But you were born here, in Brooklyn.
1:13>> Real Orin was Real Orin was taken to the
1:15future,
1:17became a cyborg, [music] and was sent
1:18back to warn humans.
1:21>> And what happened to real Orin?
1:23>> He was [music] transformed.
1:25>> So, what year did this happen?
1:27>> 2019.
1:28>> 2019. Can you take me through what did
1:31that time look like [music] for you?
1:32>> It was a difficult year. That year we
1:34had skin cancer. We had to have multiple
1:37operations on our body. [music] We were
1:38reading a lot of different things like
1:40Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark. We were living
1:43in Rockaway at the time with our mother.
1:44>> What happens [music] next? Where does
1:46real Orin go? Give me as detailed of a
1:49kind of story as you can.
1:50>> When needed, the collective will speak
1:53through Orin as a conduit.
1:57>> So,
1:58at that time, can you tell me what
2:00happened in the months that this
2:02happened?
2:03>> We went upstate to upstate New York to
2:05visit our grandparents. We were
2:06abducted. During our abduction, we were
2:09taken to the future.
2:10We saw the world and [music] what would
2:11happen, and we were told that we would
2:13be sent back to warn and to prevent the
2:16apocalypse in the year 2050.
2:18>> Okay, so tell me about that abduction.
2:19[music]
2:20What happened there?
2:21>> Bright lights, different sensations,
2:24[music] metal drilling,
2:27and new voices.
2:29>> Wow.
2:30>> [music]
2:30>> Okay.
2:31What did the people look like?
2:32>> We'll show you soon.
2:34>> [music]
2:34>> So, Dr. Phil, they put you on that show.
2:38I've watched it. I've seen I've [music]
2:39seen how that all went down.
2:41What was your reflections from that
2:42experience?
2:43>> We're grateful for Dr. Phil and his team
2:45for allowing us a platform to share our
2:47message.
2:48>> Right.
2:49How do you feel [music] about, you know,
2:52your mom that doesn't seem to believe
2:53it?
2:54>> My son, Oren, thinks he's a cyborg from
2:56the year 2050.
2:58>> Mother, just
2:59>> Just come down. Just come down.
3:00>> operation. We are receiving
3:02>> Just come down.
3:02>> He's always in cyborg mode.
3:04>> So, he never just comes in, says, "Hey,
3:06Mom."
3:07>> No.
3:08>> Not everyone is going to agree. That's
3:10the purpose of a mission. You must
3:11believe in it. Everybody else is
3:13arbitrary.
3:13>> I really wasn't sure what to believe at
3:15this point, but I didn't want to show
3:16him the lie detector yet. Let's see if
3:18he'll admit a few things on his own
3:19first. Do you guys have a good
3:21relationship now?
3:23>> We ended up moving out after the show.
3:27>> Is that all you can say for that?
3:29>> You can ask more questions.
3:31>> Do you see her a lot now?
3:33>> No.
3:35>> And is that worth it for you?
3:38>> It is unfortunate, but it is a price
3:40that we must pay to continue forward.
3:42>> Yeah.
3:43Totally.
3:44You want to help the world. I I get it.
3:47I understand. Talk to me about your
3:49childhood.
3:50What was your childhood like?
3:52>> We were born in Harlem. We lived in
3:55Harlem until the [music] age of seven.
3:57Then we moved over to Bed-Stuy. And then
3:59after Bed-Stuy, we moved over to Far
4:01Rockaway. [music] Then we had to live
4:02with our grandparents for a few years.
4:03And then we went back to the city for
4:05college.
4:06>> Okay. Why'd you live with your
4:07grandparents for a few years? [music]
4:09>> Our mother and I had never seen eye to
4:11eye.
4:11>> Was the Dr. Phil thing your decision or
4:13hers?
4:14>> Hers.
4:16>> Were you glad you went on or do you wish
4:18that didn't happen?
4:19>> We're speaking to you here today
4:20probably because of that.
4:22>> [music]
4:23>> Yeah.
4:24So it was worth it.
4:27When you were a child, were you
4:30invested [music] in your own life or
4:32were you thinking more about
4:35others and [music] humanity and the
4:37world?
4:38>> We've always thought about humanity.
4:41We've always
4:42>> [music]
4:42>> wondered about our place within this
4:44planet and the cosmos beyond. We always
4:47used to love going to the planetarium
4:48and looking at the different planets and
4:50the different stars in [music] the space
4:51and then going over to the Museum of
4:52Natural History and seeing the dinosaurs
4:54in the past and understanding what came
4:56before, what would come next, and
4:58[music] where we are today.
4:59>> Yeah.
5:00Interesting.
5:02So, you're an artist. You make music.
5:05>> Real Oren is an [music] artist.
5:07Cyborg Oren is the collective.
5:10>> Is Real Oren still here?
5:12>> Not currently.
5:14For we're speaking in third person.
5:16>> Can we [music] bring Real Oren out? How
5:19does that work?
5:20>> Not today.
5:21>> Okay.
5:22Got you.
5:24So how did you get into [music] music?
5:25>> We had to figure out ways to get out our
5:26message. And so what better way than
5:28entertainment?
5:29>> Right.
5:30>> Uzi or Kanye [music] West were to speak
5:32up about political or environmental
5:33dangers, people would actually listen.
5:36>> I see. So by becoming kind of a famous
5:39artist, you'll be able to warn people.
5:41>> Correct.
5:42>> Interesting. I want to understand how
5:44you got to this point. So let's take a a
5:46step back, right? Like, you you're here
5:49now, time [music] traveler Oren.
5:52Let's go back for a second. Let's talk
5:53about real Oren.
5:55Growing up, did you ever know that this
5:57was going to be your future?
5:59>> We knew we were going to do something
6:01that involved [music] public speaking.
6:03>> Mhm.
6:03>> With the public, public engagement.
6:06>> Yeah.
6:06>> For us, we started recording our own
6:07music at the age of 16. We took French
6:10in high school, and so we had a program
6:12called Audacity and began recording
6:14[music] our own vocals and music in
6:15Audacity. We put out our first song when
6:17we were 18 on SoundCloud. Doja Cat
6:19reposted it, and we continued to get an
6:21internet following through music on
6:23SoundCloud, eventually becoming the
6:24Roast Lord in Joji or Filthy Frank's
6:27videos, [music] and we've continued from
6:28there.
6:31>> Cool.
6:32When did you
6:34you know, I want to I don't want to say
6:35decide,
6:36>> [music]
6:36>> but when did you know that this was
6:38going to be
6:40like
6:41I guess what I'm trying to ask is like
6:43>> 2019.
6:44>> Right. What what did that Was there a
6:46day when you woke up and you said, "I'm
6:48going to pursue the [music] cyborg
6:50mission?"
6:51Or
6:51>> After the abduction in 2019.
6:53>> What like
6:54I want to I I I I've told me some of the
6:56physical details. Bright lights, you saw
6:57a world burning. Mentally, what are you
7:00thinking on this day? Can you tell me
7:02the day?
7:03>> We cannot tell you the day.
7:05>> But what what did that look like
7:06mentally?
7:07>> Mentally, it was a shift. We realized
7:09that a lot of the different things that
7:10we valued didn't matter.
7:12And maybe it was linked to our cancer
7:14incident as well.
7:15>> Mhm. Yeah. [music]
7:16>> We even had our cancer checkup today, as
7:18you can tell by our wristband, just to
7:20make sure that everything is okay.
7:22>> Is it?
7:23>> Yes. Thank you for asking.
7:24>> Yeah, of course. I I I'm glad to hear.
7:26>> Yes.
7:28We'll put this back under.
7:30>> That would really suck if you weren't
7:32able to kind of finish your mission
7:33here.
7:33>> Exactly.
7:34>> You don't know when you're going to die,
7:35right?
7:35>> Nobody does.
7:36>> Right.
7:38Yeah. So, you're in high school, you go
7:40on to Stern College at NYU. Do you have
7:43a lot of friends at NYU?
7:44>> Yes. We played a lot of shows. We opened
7:47for Princess Nokia in New York City,
7:48played at Webster Hall, Shea Stadium. We
7:51had friends.
7:52>> Yeah.
7:52>> Yes.
7:52>> What happened to all of those people?
7:54>> Life happens. You get older, you
7:56separate. The reasons why you hang out
7:58no longer matter. Some of them moved to
7:59Chicago, some of them moved to London,
8:01some of them moved to Tokyo, and some of
8:03them no longer serve the same purpose
8:04that they did when we were younger.
8:06>> What do they think of you now?
8:08>> People have different things. We even
8:10had our uncle call us asking if we were
8:11okay.
8:13So, from family to friends, it depends
8:15on their personal connotation of what
8:17we're doing.
8:18>> What did you tell your uncle?
8:20>> We said we're fine.
8:21>> Right.
8:21>> We're still your nephew.
8:24>> And what did he say to that?
8:26>> What's going through your damn mind?
8:28>> Yeah.
8:29Why don't you think more people can
8:31understand?
8:34>> Because we're asking people to do more,
8:36and people feel like they can barely do
8:38anything.
8:40People are already pushed to their
8:41limit. They don't want us to tell them
8:43that they can go 10 or 20% more.
8:44>> Right. But do you think it could also be
8:47because of the time travel thing?
8:51>> Did we touch the moon? Is the Earth
8:53flat?
8:54>> No.
8:54The Earth is not flat, and yes, we did
8:56touch the moon.
8:59>> Some people might not believe those
9:00things that you said, those two answers.
9:02>> Well, they're wrong in my opinion.
9:04>> Well, there you go.
9:06>> What are you implying here?
9:08>> We're just using two examples from you
9:10to kind of show how a person could look
9:11at their own mission and still stand on
9:13it despite what other people might
9:14think.
9:16>> I'm [music] just curious, like, I don't
9:18think I even me, I'm not the most
9:19extroverted guy in the world, but I
9:21could not survive without, you know,
9:24close human contact, you know? Let's
9:26just say you're having a bad day, it
9:28doesn't matter what it is. Do you have
9:29people to go to, or do [music] you just
9:31have to kind of turn inwards?
9:33>> There are a couple people that we can
9:34speak to that believe in our mission.
9:36>> That's good.
9:36>> One of collaborators, Vassy, he produces
9:39a lot of our music. He believes in our
9:40mission and supports us.
9:42>> Good. I just wanted to check cuz that's,
9:45you know, it's important and I I feel
9:47bad that your relationship with your
9:49mother is not where [music] it used to
9:51be. Do you ever talk to her?
9:53>> No. We have not spoken in over 4 years.
9:55>> Wow.
9:56But that's worth [music] it.
9:58>> Worth it?
10:00The mission is worth it.
10:02>> The mission is worth it. Okay.
10:03>> There are going to be ancillary things
10:05that happen,
10:06but as long as we [music] continue to
10:07move forward and feel like we're making
10:08progress, then
10:11big wins, small losses.
10:13>> It's
10:14>> Two L's create a W.
10:17>> [laughter]
10:17>> Yeah.
10:18>> [music]
10:18>> It does feel like you're definitely
10:19sacrificing your own life in a way
10:22>> [music]
10:23>> in in certain ways for the greater good
10:25of humanity, which is great. Do you
10:27drink caffeine?
10:28>> No.
10:29>> Really? Why not?
10:31>> The taste. We also have trouble
10:33sleeping. We stay up late most nights.
10:35>> Really?
10:36>> Yes.
10:36>> Yeah, what's your sleep schedule like?
10:38>> We wake up at
10:408:00.
10:41We sometimes stay awake till 5:00.
10:43>> Wow.
10:44Wait, 8:00 a.m.?
10:47And you sleep till 5:00? That's only 3
10:49hours of sleep.
10:50>> Yes.
10:51>> So, you only get 3 hours of sleep
10:52sometimes? How do you even survive? Do
10:55you have insomnia?
10:56>> Maybe.
10:57>> Maybe.
10:59Dude, that's
10:59>> It's hard.
11:00>> It that sounds
11:00>> What if you don't wake up tomorrow? You
11:02want to make sure that you went to sleep
11:03today doing as much as you could in case
11:05this is it.
11:07>> So, what do you do between
11:09that that in those night hours between,
11:11you know, when
11:12>> Download new firmware, understand
11:13different trends on the internet. Real
11:15Warren will make music.
11:19>> Do you mean just like scrolling?
11:25>> We don't like to scroll. We think that
11:27the internet
11:28can be toxic.
11:30You have to be careful with what you're
11:31scrolling.
11:33We like to read as well.
11:34>> Hm, what are some of the best books for
11:36people to read, you think?
11:38>> Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark.
11:40>> Let's talk about dating.
11:42>> [music]
11:42>> Are you interested in finding a partner?
11:44Do you have a partner?
11:45>> Yes, we do.
11:46>> Oh, awesome.
11:47>> She's an M2 MacBook.
11:50>> An M2 MacBook?
11:53I
11:53I love my my MacBook, too, as well. What
11:57about a human partner?
11:58>> We're not interested in that.
12:00>> Hm, okay. Why not?
12:02>> Our mission takes precedence.
12:05It's hard for people to understand our
12:07personality.
12:08>> Yeah. It It's certainly hard to for for
12:11me to not understand a personality,
12:13sure, but more so for me to understand
12:16what makes it all worth it. I mean, it's
12:17extremely selfless. You have to at the
12:19end [music] of the day be proud of what
12:20you're doing because, you know, I
12:23I like to think I'm I'm putting out good
12:25content in the world, but at the end of
12:26the day, we are all You might be the
12:28most selfless person in the world
12:30because everyone at the end of the day
12:31wants to make their life better, and
12:33you're saying no to a relationship with
12:35your family, most you don't have many
12:37friends, and you [music] don't
12:40you don't want to find a partner because
12:42the mission comes first. And maybe
12:44that's because of the cyborg inside you
12:46that is turning off those human
12:47emotions, but for me, I it's so
12:49important to me to have a, you know, a
12:52person by my side, you know, like I love
12:55my girlfriend. Like I I I'm so grateful
12:57for her. And so,
12:59I don't know. It's It's
13:01I feel sort of bad, but should I feel
13:03bad for you or no?
13:05>> Believe in the mission.
13:06>> Yeah, that's what's most
13:07>> believe in what we're saying, then
13:09there's no reason [music] to feel bad.
13:11Feel inspired. Know that there's still
13:13hope if we take action today.
13:15>> Do you hope to one day find a partner,
13:17or are you completely uninterested
13:18[music] in that?
13:20>> We hope to do something that's never
13:21been done before,
13:22which is [music] to wake up the human
13:23conscious.
13:25>> If a girl
13:27came,
13:28>> [music]
13:28>> or a guy, whatever you're interested in,
13:29but if if you said a girlfriend, so if a
13:31girl came and said I think you are just
13:33so amazing and so selfless, and I want
13:36to be your partner in this.
13:38Would you accept [music] that person, or
13:40would you say I'm just not interested in
13:41that?
13:44>> Let's focus on the mission. Let's both
13:46work on the mission and parallel work on
13:49the mission.
13:50And enjoy each other's company.
13:52>> So you'd say yes.
13:54>> Potentially.
13:55>> Okay.
13:57Okay, interesting.
13:59>> But we're not seeking that.
14:02We've had offers.
14:04>> Wow. What kind of companies do you think
14:06are the most evil?
14:09>> All of them.
14:10>> All of them. Do you think like AI is
14:12particularly bad?
14:14>> Because we're not figuring out how to
14:16keep AI within a box. Again, we said we
14:18read the book Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark.
14:20There were four realities, or four
14:22possibilities, two of which end in our
14:24demise.
14:25>> Yeah.
14:27>> AI is a tool.
14:28>> Yeah.
14:29>> It can be used for good or for bad.
14:31>> I'm scared of AI. I use AI so much. I'm
14:34worried. I I I am a little bit. Like, I
14:37don't think people are thinking enough.
14:39>> Do you think that you're a cyborg?
14:40>> Do I?
14:42No.
14:43>> But you use your artificial intelligence
14:45as an augment for your human experience,
14:47so are you not a cyborg, too?
14:50>> I don't know. It's it's this very scary
14:52topic. So I want one, us to figure out
14:56what people are going to do when there's
14:57less jobs, and two,
15:00we have to figure out what the box is
15:02going to be for AI, so we don't go
15:04beyond it. But also, people who are
15:06calling for all AI to stop, I think
15:08that's probably wrong, because other
15:10countries are doing it, and then it's
15:11like a whole battle.
15:12>> We're in an arms race. The problem is
15:14we're in an arms race for profit, not an
15:16arms race to better human life and
15:18social good.
15:19>> Mhm.
15:20>> The goal of AI in our thought would be
15:21to create a universal basic income so
15:24that we don't need to do menial jobs so
15:25that we can do higher order things like
15:27creativity, more art, fixing problems.
15:30But that is not the case. In fact, it
15:32has further widened the disparity
15:34between the rich and the poor.
15:36>> I do worry that it's going to be a big
15:37issue where you've got the people that
15:39figured out AI and the people that
15:40didn't and there's a huge gap between
15:43the huge like a ton of poverty and a ton
15:45of richness. Is that what you saw in the
15:47future?
15:47>> Yes, it is. We'll give you another scary
15:50insight that we've learned [music] over
15:51this past year.
15:52From money we've gone to companies like
15:54Facebook, Meta and done different AI
15:56training and it's incredible how these
15:58big AI companies will pay you hundreds
15:59of dollars to train their AI.
16:01>> [music]
16:01>> Some companies will even
16:02>> You've done this?
16:03>> Correct.
16:04>> Wow.
16:05>> We want to know what the future is.
16:08>> Don't you know though?
16:09>> Yes, but we also want to know how it is
16:11going to look like today [music] for
16:12tomorrow.
16:13>> Everything's going to change and I don't
16:15think people are ready for it at all.
16:16But change happens and usually it ends
16:18up being okay, but the world is it is
16:22scary, but it's kind of always been
16:23scary. That's my feeling. What do you
16:25think
16:25>> [music]
16:25>> change is like do you think the world
16:28between now and 2050 changed more like
16:31I'm saying changed because you've
16:32already seen it. Did it change more in
16:35those 30 years than any other 30 years
16:37in the past?
16:38>> Yes, correct. Because of technology. It
16:40has advanced the rate at which
16:41technology has changed and we have not
16:43figured out a healthy relationship with
16:45technology. So we are the losers.
16:48If a product is free, then you are the
16:49product.
16:52>> Mhm.
16:53Interesting. What did the world look
16:55like?
16:57>> Burning.
16:58>> [music]
16:58>> Physically or metaphorically?
17:02>> Burning.
17:03Burning.
17:04>> [music]
17:06>> I ask because I've always found it
17:08interesting how you know, if you think
17:09of what the world looked like, you know,
17:12in 1920 they invented the airplane and
17:1440 years later they landed on the moon.
17:15[music] That's crazy.
17:18You know,
17:19right now, if you look back at 2016,
17:2210 years ago, you could wake up in 2016
17:25and you wouldn't [music] really notice
17:26for a while. It would like take a second
17:28until you were like, wait, the phones
17:29all have home buttons. Like, oh, the
17:31world
17:3210 years from now, if you woke up 10
17:34years from now, would you notice
17:35immediately?
17:36>> Of course. There was something that
17:38happened in the year 2020 that we won't
17:40say that accelerated the adoption of
17:42technology and sort of pushed us.
17:44Everybody was inside on their phones. We
17:46became dependent on Uber. We dependent
17:48on different media platforms because we
17:50were all inside of our houses. And so,
17:52that allowed these companies to have
17:54more control.
17:55>> COVID.
17:56>> Yes.
17:57>> Did that happen on purpose?
18:00Like, did someone create that on
18:01purpose? Or was it really an accident?
18:03>> That's not our place to say. It is just
18:05a catalyst upon which we believe is
18:07pushing humans toward their destruction.
18:09>> [music]
18:10>> When will the human race go extinct, you
18:11think?
18:13>> They're still around in 2050, but the
18:15quality of life we question whether
18:17people would want that for themselves.
18:19>> Were you in 2051, [music] 2052? 2055?
18:22>> 2050.
18:23>> Exactly. Why do you think you were
18:24brought there specifically?
18:26>> That is what the higher [music]
18:27collective conscious
18:29decided for us.
18:31>> Climate change, is that going to be a
18:32really big issue?
18:33>> Of course. Do you not see it today?
18:35Summer started earlier, winter started
18:37earlier, everything is shifted. I mean,
18:40>> those are very micro things. It's like,
18:42this year it was hot, you know, but like
18:45Yes, it is
18:46>> That is how normal people will at first
18:47start to experience it. Are people in
18:49Alaska looking at the ice caps melting,
18:51seeing the water levels rise?
18:53No.
18:54>> Right.
18:56What's the world going to look like with
18:57the climate in 2050?
18:59>> Fire.
19:00>> Really?
19:01>> Fire.
19:02>> A lot of fires?
19:02>> Fire.
19:03>> What kind of Can you give me any [music]
19:05specifics? Are there any specific cities
19:07that are the most impacted?
19:08>> No.
19:09The world. Again, we speak in third
19:11person because it's collective
19:13responsibility. If New York is on fire,
19:14so is LA. If America's on fire, so
19:17[music] is the rest of the world.
19:18>> Mhm.
19:20Why do you think they chose you?
19:23>> We cannot say.
19:24All we can do is hope [music] to live
19:26out the mission and complete it
19:27successfully.
19:29>> Do they ever check in on you?
19:33>> There are signs.
19:36>> Like what?
19:38>> That we're doing the right thing.
19:41Different people will come up to us and
19:42stop us.
19:44These little affirmations from different
19:45people saying we hear you, we see you,
19:47we respect your mission. We see that as
19:48positive encouragement to keep going.
19:50Whether that's from humans or from the
19:52higher collective [music] conscious.
19:54It is all the same.
19:55>> Let's talk about politics for a second.
19:57What kind of presidents can we expect?
20:00>> Hopefully better ones.
20:02>> What do you mean [music] hopefully?
20:03Don't you kind of know?
20:07>> It's up to the people to vote.
20:09So we're urging the audience to
20:12hopefully vote for better candidates.
20:13>> Mhm. Do you worry about telling too much
20:15[music] because of sort of the butterfly
20:17effect?
20:18>> Yes, we don't want to influence people
20:19too much. We just want to gently prod
20:21and nudge [music] them to the right
20:22decision. Humans are given autonomy.
20:24Even if you were religious and a
20:25Christian, God [music] gave you the
20:27Garden of Eden and said eat from the
20:28apple or not, but if you eat, you'll be
20:30kicked out.
20:31>> Right. Is there anything fun we can
20:32expect with space travel or did you not
20:35get that far in the future to see that
20:36stuff? [music]
20:37>> That's up to the humans to decide.
20:39>> You can't tell us.
20:41>> It's not really our place.
20:43>> Mhm.
20:45>> We're trying to figure out how to make
20:46this planet right before we go ahead and
20:49potentially mess up other worlds and
20:50other universes. If we don't get this
20:52right, we're just going to multiply the
20:53same mistakes we made here elsewhere
20:55across space and time.
20:56>> You think we're going to mess Mars up?
20:59>> We hopefully not.
21:00>> Yeah.
21:01I heard somewhere that
21:03because you're a cyborg, you actually
21:05have metal in your body. Is that true?
21:08>> Yes, in our legs.
21:10>> Wow. When did that [music] happen? Was
21:12that when you were abducted?
21:13>> We had it before, during the cancer
21:15operation.
21:16>> Oh, I see.
21:17>> And then we were abducted.
21:21>> What what
21:22What's that?
21:22>> Our body transformed.
21:24>> Fully?
21:26Do you think the cancer had anything to
21:27do with this and your mission [music]
21:29and everything?
21:30>> No.
21:31>> Do you ever laugh at things or are you
21:32just very stoic?
21:34>> We laugh.
21:35We laugh when humans think the planet
21:37will be here [music] forever.
21:38>> Oh.
21:39>> We laugh when people think it isn't
21:40their responsibility to guide the planet
21:42from the visions we have seen in the
21:43year 2050.
21:45>> Mhm.
21:46You mean your [music] responsibility.
21:48>> Our responsibility.
21:50>> Do you mean you though or do you
21:52actually mean everybody? Cuz you always
21:53say we.
21:54>> Everyone.
21:55>> When you talk in we, are you literally
21:57talking for everyone? Is that why you
21:59say that?
21:59>> We're speaking for the collective
22:01conscious, but by speaking in a third
22:02person we were giving an example for
22:04others to understand that we need to do
22:06something.
22:08>> Uh-huh.
22:08>> If we were just to say
22:11I
22:12it's just very singular, but it is us.
22:15We're in this together. We cannot save
22:17the planet alone. We need you, we need
22:20them just as much as they need us.
22:22>> So when you came [music] back from this
22:24crazy abduction
22:26what were the first steps? How did you
22:28decide, okay, I'm going to start
22:29speaking in we so that everybody
22:30understands [music] that we're talking
22:31about the consciousness? Like what like
22:33I'm going to kind of have this
22:35personality now, like I'm going to make
22:37this [music] my thing. How did you
22:38decide that? Because the you know the
22:40the side the cyborg people of the future
22:42[music] didn't they didn't tell you you
22:44have to do this, right?
22:45>> No.
22:46They didn't tell us we had to speak in
22:48third person. We just did research on
22:49what we thought would be the best way to
22:51get our mission across.
22:52>> You said you went to the hospital today
22:54for this [music] cancer checkup.
22:56Do you
22:57just kind of pretend to be normal then
23:00for the doctors or are you still
23:02speaking in we [music] and things?
23:04>> We're still in third person.
23:05>> Okay.
23:05>> They might get confused, but
23:07>> What would real Orin say about this
23:10version of Orin?
23:12>> He's doing what he has to do.
23:14>> Yeah. You know, do people ever come up
23:15to you on the street?
23:17>> Yes.
23:17>> Really?
23:17>> For photos. They say you're that guy.
23:21>> Do people ever say, "You're a liar"?
23:23>> Not to our face. In the comments we see
23:25that, but never to our face. And if even
23:28if they did, we wouldn't be mad at that.
23:30>> Right. How does that make you feel?
23:32>> That we're a liar?
23:33>> Yeah, when people [music] say that. I'm
23:34not saying that. I'm just saying when
23:35people do say
23:36>> Will you tell your children that Santa
23:37Claus is a lie when they're 2 years old
23:39or 3 years old?
23:42Is not everyone a liar?
23:47We're not saying that we like lying, or
23:48that we are lying, or that we do lie,
23:50but it is human nature to lie.
23:54So, somebody calling us a liar is
23:55[music] saying, "You're a human."
23:57>> Uh-huh.
23:58>> We're a cyborg, but
24:01>> Do you lie?
24:02>> We try not to.
24:04>> Yeah. You don't want to lie.
24:05>> No, you'll get caught up. You'll get
24:07tripped up.
24:08It's better to just stay true.
24:09>> Right.
24:10>> Consistent.
24:11We think consistency is most important.
24:13If we continue to show up consistency,
24:15people will maybe appreciate that.
24:16>> Right. Do you ever think that, you know,
24:19I'm not saying you didn't travel into
24:21the future. I'm not saying that, but do
24:23you ever think that
24:24you know, I think your mission is valid,
24:26but maybe people totally count you out
24:28because it's just like, "What is this
24:29guy talking about? He didn't travel to
24:31the future." Do you ever think that if
24:32you just kind of stopped mentioning
24:34that, that you'd actually be able to go
24:36further? Let's just say you kind of
24:37forgot about that for a while, and just
24:39made a bunch of content about like,
24:42you know, what's going to happen in the
24:43future, and like your predictions, even
24:46though you actually know. Do you think
24:47maybe you'd be able to go further than
24:49this time traveler
24:51thing?
24:53>> The people who discredit us because of
24:56our time traveling,
24:58we're never really borgs to begin with.
25:02>> We're never really what?
25:03>> Borgs. You have bots, NPCs, you have
25:05borgs. We're a borg. Are you a bot or a
25:07borg?
25:09>> Is a borg someone with an individual
25:11personality that's not like
25:13>> Okay, then I think I'm a borg then.
25:15>> Exactly.
25:15>> Yeah.
25:16>> Yeah, so we're not worried about the
25:17bots.
25:18>> Mhm.
25:19>> We're borgs.
25:20>> What percent of people are are bots
25:21versus borgs? [music]
25:23>> That's up to the people to decide.
25:24>> But your opinion?
25:27>> The majority are bots.
25:29For there is still much more work to do
25:31to free people from the matrix.
25:33>> Mhm. The matrix? [music]
25:35>> Correct.
25:35>> That's like some Andrew Tate talk.
25:37>> We're not familiar with him.
25:39>> Mhm.
25:39He's not a very nice guy.
25:42>> That's not the type of internet that
25:43we're on.
25:44>> Yeah. I guess the obvious question that
25:46a lot of people are wondering is [music]
25:48you know, what would you say to people
25:50that just don't believe you? They say
25:51the future is going to be fine. You
25:53didn't see it. You don't know what
25:55you're talking about.
25:56>> Are you happy with the way things are
25:57today?
25:59Whether we're saying the truth or not,
26:01and we believe this to be our truth, so
26:02empirically it is our truth and our
26:04reality that we are speaking to, not
26:06yours, but our goal is to help improve
26:08your quality of life.
26:09>> What are your goals?
26:11>> Our goals are to change the world, to
26:12prevent the apocalypse that we've seen
26:13in our visions and in our dreams in the
26:15year 2050, to raise the human
26:16consciousness, to free humans from the
26:18matrix,
26:20to make sure that there's more borgs
26:21than bots.
26:22>> Do you have any specific goals? Like I
26:23asked if you wanted to run for office.
26:24Do you believe that you would
26:26be interested in,
26:27>> [music]
26:27>> you know, like you personally, or do you
26:30want to,
26:32you know,
26:33>> We'd like to create
26:34>> Do you want to be like
26:35>> [music]
26:35>> just in political position? Do you want
26:37to just be an artist? Like what are your
26:39biggest,
26:40you know?
26:41>> We'd like to be a media platform and to
26:43continue to share our mission and our
26:44vision [music] and to invite others to
26:45speak with us, much like you've done
26:47with us.
26:47>> Mhm. Mhm.
26:49>> To create public spaces and parks, to
26:51create an acai truck that goes through
26:53different low-income neighborhoods in
26:54[music] New York City and gives out free
26:55acai so people can get superfoods for
26:57their brain.
26:58>> I mean, that sounds great.
27:00It sounds like I think you could run for
27:01mayor. That'd be interesting.
27:02>> Thank you.
27:03>> I'd love to see you do that in, you
27:04know, 10 years [music] or something when
27:05you've really built this up a little
27:06more. Um
27:08I think the the difficult question
27:10[music] is a lot of people would ask,
27:12you know,
27:13and they would say, "I think you're
27:14playing a character, you know?"
27:17What would you say to that? Is this a
27:18character?
27:19>> There's real Oren and cyber Oren.
27:22They're both true identities and
27:24entities
27:25>> Mhm.
27:26>> merged under one roof.
27:28>> Yeah.
27:28>> Yes.
27:30>> Interesting. [music] Do you think like
27:32if somebody was like, "I'm going to lie
27:33detect you?" Like would you ever take a
27:34lie detector test?
27:35>> Yes.
27:36>> Really?
27:39How much do you think one person can
27:40even do to really influence the future?
27:43[music] Like we have this time right
27:45now, but in the scope of humanity, this
27:47is just a small period of it. Like how
27:49much do you think we can really do right
27:51now?
27:51>> One person can do anything.
27:54One person.
27:55>> You really believe that?
27:56>> 20, 30, 100, 1,000, 100,000, a million,
27:59a billion people.
28:01It just amplifies.
28:03>> I think there is a a common belief
28:05that's like, "Why should we even focus
28:07on space travel if life here isn't
28:09perfect?" But life here will never be
28:11perfect. It's never been perfect. And I
28:13actually would argue, and you might
28:15disagree with me on this, but we're
28:16talking a lot about how bad the world
28:18is, how it's going to get even worse. I
28:20think life today, I think everyone
28:22watching this could agree that life
28:23today is still like so much better than
28:26it was a thousand years ago.
28:27>> For sure.
28:28>> Like [music] the fact that we have
28:28running water and toilets and air
28:31conditioning and heating and more people
28:34have shelter now than really at Yes,
28:38maybe it's getting a little worse year
28:39by year right now on a small level, but
28:42overall, there are so many less people
28:44[music] living like in grass than there
28:46were a thousand
28:47>> Did they know they were living in grass?
28:49The grass was the Casper Tempur-Pedic
28:52mattress at that time.
28:53>> Right, but
28:54>> You're comparing it to today's standard.
28:55They might have been happy. Yes, we have
28:57running water, but they also did then.
28:59They also had toilet paper.
29:01>> Leaves.
29:02>> Right. [music]
29:04>> I guess you're right.
29:05>> really happy with social media? Do you
29:07open your [music] phone and you're happy
29:09when you see somebody else living the
29:10life you want?
29:11>> It is true that maybe just because we
29:13have more doesn't mean that we're
29:15happier now.
29:16>> Exactly. Some people might be and some
29:18people might not be. A lot of people are
29:20getting dumb phones. They're getting rid
29:22of the smartphones. They're trying to go
29:23into the woods. They're saying, "Hey,
29:24I'm leaving America."
29:25>> Okay, but there's a couple of things
29:27that I think are undeniably better about
29:28the world now [music] versus the world
29:30then and you can tell me if you
29:31disagree. One is we are more accepting
29:34now.
29:35I think, you know, you you'll look at
29:37history. You're never hearing about
29:39historical figures that were gay or that
29:41stuck struggled with their gender
29:43identity or something like that. You
29:44never hear about that, but there's no
29:46way that like nobody was gay then.
29:48>> [music]
29:48>> It's not like somehow gayness became
29:51like a thing
29:5320 years ago for the first time in
29:55humanity. There was probably just as
29:56many gay people.
29:57>> Yeah.
29:57>> Whatever it is, 5%, 10%, whatever it is.
29:59>> Yes.
29:59>> Every like that means a huge percentage
30:01of humanity was unbelievably lonely in
30:04[music] the closet. That's so sad. I
30:06think about that a lot. I've always
30:07thought that's fascinating how like
30:09is even just 80 years ago, there was
30:11probably just as many gay people as
30:13there are right now, but all of them
30:15were in hiding cuz you couldn't be gay.
30:17That's so much better now.
30:19>> Sure.
30:19>> Do you agree that like we've done some
30:20things that have made the world better?
30:23>> Yes.
30:23>> Do you We're going to do more
30:24>> civil rights.
30:24>> of those things now. I know you're
30:26trying to warn us, but I don't know. I
30:28want to give
30:29I think if you want to encourage people,
30:32I don't like just like everything sucks,
30:34[music] it's going to suck, you need to
30:35change it like let's start with like
30:37what we're doing right and let's do more
30:39of that stuff. Solar power. It's now the
30:41number one provider in the state of
30:43Texas [music]
30:44for all power. Isn't that crazy?
30:46>> That is crazy.
30:47>> It's bigger than any other power source
30:48because it's actually become cheaper.
30:50And I'm a big fan of nuclear power. I
30:52think it's more safe than people give it
30:53credit for. I think we are going in the
30:55right directions in a lot of ways.
30:58>> I think
30:58>> [music]
30:59>> this would be a fun time to sort of
31:00introduce what I also wanted to do with
31:02you. So,
31:03um this is going to take me a second to
31:04set up, but I brought
31:06a brain scanner. [music] So, it's an
31:08EEG. And essentially what I want to do
31:10is I want to put it on you and ask you a
31:12few questions,
31:13>> [music]
31:13>> see how your brain moves. I think it'd
31:15be really interesting for the science
31:16aspect of this is to kind of learn a
31:19little bit about your brain. Is that
31:20okay with you?
31:20>> It's fine.
31:21>> Okay, great. And I'm going to put this
31:23on you. I'm going to turn it on.
31:24>> This red line shows how much the pattern
31:26of electrical signals recorded at his
31:28scalp [music] changes compared with the
31:30preceding 10 seconds. A higher line
31:33means more change. A lower line [music]
31:35means less.
31:36>> Are you from the future?
31:37>> Yes.
31:41>> Is real Oren still in there?
31:45>> Yes.
31:47>> Do you wish that he could come out more
31:49often?
31:50>> No.
31:52Real Oren has his most of the fun.
31:54>> What does that mean?
31:55>> Real Oren gets to experience life and
31:58the human things, and that information
31:59[music] informs us.
32:01>> Mhm.
32:03Were you abducted in 2019?
32:05>> Correct.
32:07>> Did you see 2050?
32:08>> Yes.
32:14>> You're calm, man.
32:15You're You're You're very calm.
32:18Um okay.
32:19Are you
32:20sad about
32:24not having more strong relationships?
32:27>> No.
32:31>> Do you
32:33wish [music] more people would
32:34understand your mission?
32:36>> Yes, a lot more.
32:37>> Yeah.
32:41Is the future [music] more dark than
32:43happy?
32:44>> Yes.
32:45>> Do you think we can still change that?
32:47>> Yes.
32:48That's why we keep fighting.
32:50>> [music]
32:50>> Is this a character?
32:52>> No.
32:53This is a real thing.
32:56>> [music]
32:57>> Totally. Yeah.
33:00Are you a liar?
33:02>> We've lied before, but we don't actively
33:04lie.
33:05>> Yeah.
33:06>> [music]
33:07>> And
33:08is it all worth it?
33:11>> Yes.
33:13We're unique.
33:15>> Are you scared of death?
33:16>> No, actually.
33:18Not at all.
33:19>> Yeah.
33:19>> We don't want to die. We're not trying
33:21to die.
33:23But
33:24again, we had cancer. It puts your
33:25mortality in a certain light to where
33:28again, live every day as you need to. We
33:29will do [music] what we need to do by
33:31the end of the day.
33:31>> And what message would you leave to
33:34people watching us?
33:36>> Help someone else.
33:39Always help yourself, but make sure to
33:40help someone else, too.
33:42>> [music]
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