Matt Walsh Clashes With Tennessee Democrat In Debate About Gender-Affirming Treatments For Minors — Transcript

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1. 0:00and who would this be directed to would
2. 0:02you like to come up if I could ask Mr
3. 0:04Walsh Mr Walsh if you would mind uh
4. 0:11Matt thank you for being here you're
5. 0:13recognized
6. 0:14just a quick question for you we've
7. 0:16heard in the news last week
8. 0:18and even today that
9. 0:22it's pro-life to vote against this bill
10. 0:26we've heard that um
11. 0:29suicides are prevalent
12. 0:31and suicide has impacted my family so
13. 0:34I'm sensitive when I hear something like
14. 0:36that
15. 0:37I I I've read some of the stuff that
16. 0:40you've done and I was wondering can you
17. 0:42speak to the statistics
18. 0:44of of
19. 0:46Mental Health
20. 0:48and Suicidal Tendencies
21. 0:51for the people who have gone through
22. 0:52transition for people who have not in
23. 0:55your studies from what I've read can you
24. 0:56can you speak to that that's true
25. 0:58recognized sure uh well the claim that
26. 1:01uh you know doing the chemical
27. 1:03castration drugs or surgery or hormonal
28. 1:05intervention the claim that this
29. 1:06prevents suicide or has a positive
30. 1:10psychological effects down the line is
31. 1:12utterly totally baseless there are no
32. 1:15credible long-term studies that bear
33. 1:17that out and one of the reasons for that
34. 1:19is that there couldn't possibly be any
35. 1:21credible long-term studies because we've
36. 1:22never done this to kids on this scale
37. 1:24ever before in history so this current
38. 1:27uh shall we say crop of children they
39. 1:30are the guinea pigs this is this is all
40. 1:31experimental we're sort of trying it out
41. 1:33on them to see if it works now they have
42. 1:36attempted a few times to do studies and
43. 1:37the interesting thing is that the world
44. 1:39Professional Association of transgender
45. 1:40Health wpath which is a radical far left
46. 1:43pro-trans organization they commissioned
47. 1:45a study to try to prove that um that
48. 1:49hormones and puberty blockers decrease
49. 1:51suicide rates among
50. 1:54trans-identified Youth and even in their
51. 1:56own study they found that they couldn't
52. 1:57they couldn't they couldn't prove it
53. 1:58they couldn't make them link because
54. 1:59it's just not possible to do the other
55. 2:01thing I'd mention too is that
56. 2:03you know the the
57. 2:06number of trans identified youth has
58. 2:08skyrocketed in recent years talking
59. 2:10about exponential 10x 20x growth just
60. 2:13huge numbers having of a have increased
61. 2:17and what we hear from the pro-trans side
62. 2:19is that well this is not a social
63. 2:20contagion it's just that you know
64. 2:22there's always been this many trans
65. 2:23people it's just that they were not in
66. 2:25an affirming
67. 2:26uh environment before in history and so
68. 2:28they couldn't come out and now for the
69. 2:29first time trans people have have the
70. 2:31ability to live their truth so to speak
71. 2:33well if that's the case and there have
72. 2:36always been these sort of like millions
73. 2:38of trans people and if it's also true
74. 2:40that if we don't affirm them that it
75. 2:42would cause them to commit suicide then
76. 2:44we should be able to look back in
77. 2:45history and find just this unbroken
78. 2:47incredible epidemic of children
79. 2:51mysteriously killing themselves because
80. 2:53they weren't being affirmed as trans and
81. 2:55what you find is that that didn't exist
82. 2:57I mean the the youth suicide rate has
83. 3:00increased exponentially alongside trans
84. 3:04affirmation so trans affirmation causes
85. 3:07the suicide rate not the other way
86. 3:08around the last thing I'll note is that
87. 3:10um
88. 3:10the suicide rate among trans identified
89. 3:12people is is Sky High it remains Sky
90. 3:15High all the data shows us it remains
91. 3:16Sky High even after surgery and in fact
92. 3:19in the most reliable day that we have
93. 3:20it's a years after surgery when
94. 3:23suicidality is the highest for
95. 3:25trans-identified people that's the
96. 3:27reality
97. 3:29professing you good okay any further
98. 3:31questions for Mr Walsh while we are out
99. 3:33of session uh Mr Hammer Mr
100. 3:35representative Hammer thank you
101. 3:37um thank you Mr Walsh I found an
102. 3:39interesting one of our uh
103. 3:41people testified today that they uh had
104. 3:44their gender farming surgery at 16 and I
105. 3:47know uh you and former comments
106. 3:49mentioned this on your blog at about 16
107. 3:51you're an adult who's mature and can
108. 3:53make decisions uh you're that at 16. I
109. 3:56don't care what anybody says even going
110. 3:57so far as to say you know 16 people when
111. 4:00you're 16 you should be married and uh
112. 4:03and could be pregnant or should be
113. 4:05pregnant so I'm curious if 16 is uh a uh
114. 4:09an adult in your view why is this bill
115. 4:12have the minor defined as 18.
116. 4:17yeah that's that's a hit piece you took
117. 4:19from Media Matters uh from something
118. 4:21when I was a radio host uh 13 14 years
119. 4:24ago in my early 20s uh it's also not an
120. 4:27accurate reflection of what I actually
121. 4:28said
122. 4:30um I was talking about
123. 4:31uh the fact that people tended to marry
124. 4:34young historically and that's all that
125. 4:36that was about
126. 4:38um
127. 4:39how does that relate to this
128. 4:41subject
129. 4:42just curious your definition of if you
130. 4:45feel like people are adults at 16 should
131. 4:47people are adults at 18. but actually
132. 4:50they're your your brain is not fully
133. 4:52developed until you're 25.
134. 4:54so we should be having a conversation
135. 4:56about whether we should even be doing
136. 4:58these surgeries to people at 18. but
137. 5:00certainly before 18 it's it's absurd I
138. 5:03mean do you do you think that a 16 year
139. 5:06old can meaningfully consent to having
140. 5:08their body parts removed
141. 5:12do you
142. 5:15no
143. 5:20we do not yeah we ask the questions it's
144. 5:23not it's
145. 5:25okay uh representative Hammer you are
146. 5:27recognized
147. 5:29no more questions okay uh representative
148. 5:31Clemens you recognized
149. 5:33yeah thank you Mr chairman
150. 5:36um can you give us a summary of your
151. 5:38educational background or your health
152. 5:39care education experience Mr Walsh you
153. 5:42recognized my experience in healthcare
154. 5:45your educational background I'm just
155. 5:47curious you you testified as to a lot of
156. 5:49your own research so I'm curious for
157. 5:51what purpose you do that and what
158. 5:52background you have to qualifies you to
159. 5:54speak to that well my background that
160. 5:57qualifies me to speak to this is that
161. 5:58I'm a human being with a brain and
162. 6:00common sense and I have a soul
163. 6:02and so therefore I think it's a really
164. 6:04bad idea it's a chemically castrate
165. 6:06children that is my experience
166. 6:09um also I I did now it's true I didn't I
167. 6:11didn't go to college but I did go to
168. 6:13school long enough to learn how to read
169. 6:14so I can read the data for myself and
170. 6:16that's exactly what I've done
171. 6:18representative Clemens and for what
172. 6:20purpose do you um conduct your research
173. 6:23and use this brain of yours Mr Walsh
174. 6:26you're recognized
175. 6:27I use it for the purpose of trying to
176. 6:29protect children from being castrated
177. 6:30and mutilated that's one of the things I
178. 6:32try to do
179. 6:34thank you Mr chairman you don't use it
180. 6:36to get clicks on your let's stay
181. 6:39application well are using it right now
182. 6:41to try to get clicks with this
183. 6:42interaction
184. 6:44on no I I I I I I really like the idea
185. 6:47of getting uh of of drawing attention to
186. 6:51the fact that this is happening to
187. 6:53children I know you seem to find it very
188. 6:55amusing I don't
189. 6:57representative Clemens
190. 7:00well you made a lot of
191. 7:01misrepresentations and and category
192. 7:04characterizations in your comments so I
193. 7:06think it's fair for me to question your
194. 7:09background
195. 7:10let me finish please
196. 7:13you're recognize representative Clements
197. 7:16you know if you're going to come before
198. 7:17a committee and make
199. 7:18mischaracterizations and
200. 7:20misrepresentations it's fair game for us
201. 7:23to ask you your educational background
202. 7:24and your foundational knowledge for
203. 7:27making such characterizations that's
204. 7:29that's my point so I'm curious about you
205. 7:33speaking to the development of the human
206. 7:35brain by the age of 25 I seem to recall
207. 7:38you advocating on behalf of firearm
208. 7:40possession at the age of 18. do you
209. 7:42think that's what let's stay on the bill
210. 7:43please
211. 7:45that's all I got okay yeah well uh can I
212. 7:48respond to that
213. 7:49representative Mitchell you'll recognize
214. 7:51I can't respond to them thank you Mr
215. 7:54chairman so
216. 7:56you know you I think your original
217. 7:58article blog post or tweet or whatever
218. 8:02kind of started this Firestorm so I'm
219. 8:05trying to figure out you know where we
220. 8:07need to look for these surgeries because
221. 8:09I'm still trying to find you know the
222. 8:12surgeries because you know the the
223. 8:14sponsor the bill last week I kind of
224. 8:16agreed with him I said we need to split
225. 8:18this bill in the two parts you know I
226. 8:21may agree with him on the surgery part
227. 8:23because I don't think it's happening so
228. 8:26you know you seem to have started this
229. 8:28so I need your evidence of where these
230. 8:31surgeries are occurring in Tennessee
231. 8:32could you could you give me you know
232. 8:34places times maybe some names uh or
233. 8:38something that you know you you know of
234. 8:40yeah I watch Mr Walsh you're recognized
235. 8:44my evidence is the health care
236. 8:48provider's own words you know I I uh I
237. 8:53outlined Vanderbilt health and their
238. 8:56transgender Care Program
239. 9:00and the people that work for that
240. 9:02program their own words talking about
241. 9:03what they do and talking about for
242. 9:05example providing the chemical
243. 9:07castration drugs to to adolescent
244. 9:09children as far as surgeries you know
245. 9:13double mastectomies do happen and the
246. 9:14way that I know that they happen is that
247. 9:15after I called attention to this program
248. 9:18at Vanderbilt they said that they were
249. 9:20going to stop performing they were going
250. 9:22to put a pause on the program that
251. 9:24performs these surgeries on minors and
252. 9:26so if you're pausing the program that
253. 9:27performs surgeries on minors then I'm
254. 9:29going to assume
255. 9:30that the program existed otherwise you
256. 9:32couldn't have paused it so now the exact
257. 9:35number of kids who are being subjected
258. 9:37to this I don't know exactly it's really
259. 9:39hard to come up with those numbers I
260. 9:40think because the people doing it aren't
261. 9:41really proud of it and there's not a lot
262. 9:43of interest on their end to tell us but
263. 9:46I do think that you know even one child
264. 9:48being horrifically mutilated is too many
265. 9:52so I know that it's more than one and
266. 9:54that's reason enough to put a stop to
267. 9:56this I would say
268. 10:00so
269. 10:02so last week I had an amendment that you
270. 10:05know we're looking to protect children
271. 10:06from abuse and I also had an amendment
272. 10:10to stop cosmetic surgery of rhinoplasty
273. 10:13and breast enhancements to minors how
274. 10:18would you feel about that
275. 10:19you know is that mutilation of children
276. 10:22as well under the age of 18.
277. 10:24Representative Mitchell that's not on
278. 10:26the bill that we have
279. 10:28yeah it is it's surgical it's surgical I
280. 10:32I'm happy to
281. 10:33answer that
282. 10:35you're free to answer Mr walls okay my
283. 10:38personal feeling about banning breast
284. 10:40enhancements for for minors
285. 10:42yes I would be all four personally I'd
286. 10:45be all for Banning that absolutely yeah
287. 10:48representative Mitchell okay and and so
288. 10:51I think the previous representative you
289. 10:55know proved that you have no medical
290. 10:57background correct
291. 10:59uh no so so you're here probably just as
292. 11:03a public policy you you're trying to
293. 11:06address good public policy correct
294. 11:08represent or Mr Walsh yes so
295. 11:12I just have to question you know some of
296. 11:15your public policy you know expertise
297. 11:18when you know I'm reading here Singapore
298. 11:22is able to have nice things in part
299. 11:24because they execute drug dealers by
300. 11:26hanging and arrest even Petty vandals
301. 11:29and thieves and beat them with a cane
302. 11:31until they bleed we don't have nice
303. 11:33things here because we aren't willing to
304. 11:36do what is required to maintain them so
305. 11:38you know with statements like that I
306. 11:41kind of have to question your public
307. 11:43policy beliefs and you know and you also
308. 11:46stated there had been no studies well
309. 11:48I'm sitting here holding a study from
310. 11:50the American Academy of Pediatrics from
311. 11:53the University of Pittsburgh about the
312. 11:57uh suicidal disparities between
313. 11:59transgender and cisgender adults and
314. 12:02children so
315. 12:04I think you know before you state things
316. 12:07you may need to know all the facts
317. 12:10thank you all right thank you is that
318. 12:14Congressman uh chairman Williams you
319. 12:16recognize
320. 12:18thank you Mr chairman I make motion go
321. 12:20back out of session or back into session
322. 12:22thank you is there a objection
323. 12:26all right