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  1. 0:00uh our first speaker this morning is
  2. 0:02mary graybar
  3. 0:04mary is making her first appearance at a
  4. 0:06hillsdale college event and
  5. 0:08we hope there will be many more she was
  6. 0:10born in the former yugoslavia
  7. 0:12in what is today slovenia she was
  8. 0:15brought to america when she was two
  9. 0:16years old by her parents who escaped the
  10. 0:18then communist regime
  11. 0:20early in her career she worked in
  12. 0:21advertising and as a freelance
  13. 0:24writer and she later earned a phd in
  14. 0:26english from the university of georgia
  15. 0:29she's held a number of teaching
  16. 0:31positions including most recently
  17. 0:33in the program in american democracy and
  18. 0:35citizenship
  19. 0:36at emory university she has also written
  20. 0:39many articles about the corruption
  21. 0:41of education i guess that's a constantly
  22. 0:45a good source lots of material there
  23. 0:50she founded the non-profit dissident
  24. 0:52prof education
  25. 0:54project which only came about after what
  26. 0:56she calls
  27. 0:57quote a two-year struggle with the obama
  28. 1:00irs
  29. 1:01i don't need to remind all of you that
  30. 1:03she's not the only conservative who
  31. 1:04struggled with the irs
  32. 1:06during the obama administration she's
  33. 1:09currently a resident fellow at the
  34. 1:10alexander hamilton institute
  35. 1:12for the study of western civilization
  36. 1:14where she is working on a biography of
  37. 1:15the black conservative
  38. 1:17writer george schuyler
  39. 1:20thank you her most recent book was
  40. 1:22published in 2019 and is titled
  41. 1:24debunking howard zinn exposing the fake
  42. 1:27history that turned a generation
  43. 1:29against america i wonder how many of
  44. 1:32today's protesters learned their
  45. 1:33american history
  46. 1:34from howard zinn she'll be drawing on
  47. 1:38themes
  48. 1:38from her book for her talk this morning
  49. 1:40would you please welcome to the podium
  50. 1:42mary graybar
  51. 2:00well thank you for that nice
  52. 2:06introduction
  53. 2:09i'm going to try to sum up a lot of the
  54. 2:12things that
  55. 2:13are in my book today
  56. 2:16and i was supposed to talk about the
  57. 2:18influence of howard zinn today
  58. 2:22howard zinn represents the classic
  59. 2:24chicken and egg
  60. 2:25dilemma people often ask
  61. 2:28which came first howard's inn or the far
  62. 2:32left were drift of education
  63. 2:35how is it that a book like a people's
  64. 2:38history of the united states was allowed
  65. 2:40to get into the classroom in the first
  66. 2:42place
  67. 2:44to any reader with a modicum of
  68. 2:46knowledge about history
  69. 2:48zinn's book first published in 1980
  70. 2:51and continuously published ever since is
  71. 2:54a
  72. 2:54deeply biased and flawed anti-american
  73. 2:58polemic zen book presents a view of the
  74. 3:02united states is irredeemably corrupt
  75. 3:05with a discoverer christopher columbus
  76. 3:08committing genocide the founders setting
  77. 3:11up a government to enrich
  78. 3:13the rich and powerful and capitalists
  79. 3:16getting rich off slaves and workers
  80. 3:19the bill of rights voting petitioning
  81. 3:22initiative and hard work mean nothing in
  82. 3:24this corrupt regime
  83. 3:27consider zinn's take on the founding
  84. 3:30which he describes in his chapter four
  85. 3:33titled tyranny is tyranny
  86. 3:37around 1776 certain important people in
  87. 3:41the english colonies made a discovery
  88. 3:44that would prove enormously useful for
  89. 3:46the next 200 years
  90. 3:48they found that by creating a nation a
  91. 3:50symbol
  92. 3:51a legal unity called the united states
  93. 3:54they could take over
  94. 3:55land profits and political power from
  95. 3:58favorites
  96. 3:58of the british empire in the process
  97. 4:01they could hold back a number of
  98. 4:03potential rebellions
  99. 4:05and create a consensus of popular
  100. 4:07support for the rule
  101. 4:09of a new privileged leadership
  102. 4:12end of quote the myth of the revolution
  103. 4:16as he calls it
  104. 4:17was that it was on behalf of a united
  105. 4:20people
  106. 4:21why was this a myth because quote
  107. 4:25some americans were clearly omitted from
  108. 4:27the circle of united interests drawn by
  109. 4:30the declaration of independence
  110. 4:33indians black slaves women
  111. 4:36aside from these exclusions zinn
  112. 4:39presents what is
  113. 4:40in his opinion a greater flaw he points
  114. 4:43out
  115. 4:44quote the declaration talked about
  116. 4:46government and political rights
  117. 4:49but ignored the existing inequalities in
  118. 4:52property
  119. 4:53and then he asks suggestively and how
  120. 4:56could people truly have
  121. 4:58equal rights with stark differences in
  122. 5:01wealth
  123. 5:03the corrupt founding carries over
  124. 5:06throughout american history
  125. 5:08into the 20th century to world war ii
  126. 5:11which zinn describes as quote a war
  127. 5:15waged by a government whose chief
  128. 5:17beneficiary was a wealthy elite
  129. 5:20the alliance between big business and
  130. 5:23government
  131. 5:24well back to the very first proposals of
  132. 5:27alexander hamilton
  133. 5:30end of quotation in zinn's view
  134. 5:33we did not defeat fascism
  135. 5:36rather fascism's quote essential
  136. 5:40elements militarism racism
  137. 5:44imperialism were absorbed
  138. 5:47into the already poisoned bones
  139. 5:51of the victors end of quotation
  140. 5:55when i began writing my book debunking
  141. 5:58howard's inn
  142. 5:59i thought i would be exposing the biases
  143. 6:03but although i had been witnessing and
  144. 6:05writing about the corruption
  145. 6:07in education for years and though i had
  146. 6:10graded many shoddy student papers
  147. 6:13sometimes plagiarized i was shocked
  148. 6:17by how much zinn had gotten away with
  149. 6:21zinn presented leading questions often
  150. 6:24several in a row
  151. 6:25he falsified evidence he left out
  152. 6:29key words when quoting sources to give
  153. 6:31the opposite impression
  154. 6:34of what they meant he plagiarized
  155. 6:37and not from a book of history but from
  156. 6:40a book for high school students by a
  157. 6:42fellow marxist radical
  158. 6:44who was a screenwriter and a novelist
  159. 6:48this was on columbus on which much of
  160. 6:52zinn's claim to fame
  161. 6:53as a path-breaking historian is based
  162. 6:57he also used as sources works of fiction
  163. 7:01statements by anonymous people
  164. 7:04and a holocaust denying historian
  165. 7:07he presented he valorized the black
  166. 7:11panthers
  167. 7:12and treated the naacp dismissively
  168. 7:16he presented american indians as woke
  169. 7:19denizens of 1960s communes
  170. 7:22he said all women in colonial america
  171. 7:26were slaves and he used the word slaves
  172. 7:30my book documents how zinn deliberately
  173. 7:34deceived
  174. 7:36the big question remains how did zen
  175. 7:39get away with this for 40 years
  176. 7:42which brings us back to the chicken and
  177. 7:44egg question
  178. 7:46howard zinn i maintain was the chicken
  179. 7:50a communist chicken born in 1922
  180. 7:54to russian jewish immigrant parents he
  181. 7:56was
  182. 7:57early on influenced by the communist
  183. 7:59proselytizers
  184. 8:01coming into his brooklyn neighborhood
  185. 8:03during his teen years
  186. 8:05according to the best interpretation of
  187. 8:08zinn's
  188. 8:09fbi file we can be confident the zinn
  189. 8:12was a member of the communist party usa
  190. 8:15from about 1948 to 1953.
  191. 8:20this was while zinn was attending
  192. 8:21graduate school on the gi bill
  193. 8:24after serving in world war ii as a
  194. 8:26bombardier
  195. 8:28he earned his phd from colombia and
  196. 8:30began teaching at spelman college in
  197. 8:331956.
  198. 8:35following party directives howard zinn
  199. 8:39led the long march of marxists into the
  200. 8:42institutions
  201. 8:44thus laying the egg that hatched the new
  202. 8:48left at spelman
  203. 8:51and later at boston university zinn
  204. 8:54a charismatic pied piper radicalized
  205. 8:58students
  206. 8:59turning them against the college
  207. 9:00administrations that sought to maintain
  208. 9:03academic standards zinn also
  209. 9:07churned students against their own
  210. 9:09country he was an
  211. 9:10influential mentor to the violent
  212. 9:13student nonviolent
  213. 9:15coordinating committee boasting of such
  214. 9:19leaders as stokely carmichael and h wrap
  215. 9:21brown
  216. 9:22at boston universities and inspired
  217. 9:25students to resist the draft for the
  218. 9:27vietnam war
  219. 9:28and to view ho chi minh as the true
  220. 9:31jeffersonian democrat
  221. 9:34it was one of his boston university
  222. 9:37students from the 1970s
  223. 9:39who became wealthy in our capitalist
  224. 9:42system
  225. 9:43that zinn disparages and who in 2007
  226. 9:47donated the money to start the
  227. 9:49non-profit zen
  228. 9:51education project
  229. 9:54zinn was given the opportunity to put
  230. 9:56his communist
  231. 9:58version of american history into a book
  232. 10:01published by harper collins
  233. 10:04as i discovered it follows the contours
  234. 10:07of a history book written by cpusa
  235. 10:11chairman william z foster in 1951
  236. 10:15the year party member howard zinn was
  237. 10:19teaching marxism at the brooklyn
  238. 10:21cpusa headquarters as his fbi file
  239. 10:25reveals
  240. 10:27by 1980 a change had come
  241. 10:30over the profession at the 1969 meeting
  242. 10:34of the american historical association
  243. 10:37the radicals began to take over
  244. 10:41harvard historian oscar handland rude
  245. 10:44the changes
  246. 10:46in his 1971 essay living history
  247. 10:50he described quote the pressures toward
  248. 10:54falsification that were arising from the
  249. 10:57radical historians
  250. 10:59objectives of social activism
  251. 11:02he compared these pressures to what
  252. 11:05happened in the soviet union
  253. 11:07when scholarship was put in service of
  254. 11:10ideology
  255. 11:12handlin wrote it was one of stalin's
  256. 11:15most
  257. 11:15impressive achievements to have
  258. 11:17converted marxism
  259. 11:19to an instrument of state purpose and it
  260. 11:22was not
  261. 11:23by coincidence that history was the
  262. 11:26first discipline to suffer in the
  263. 11:28process
  264. 11:29the soviet union did more than impose
  265. 11:32an official party line on
  266. 11:35interpretations of trotsky's role in the
  267. 11:38revolution of 1917.
  268. 11:41it actually expunged the name trotsky
  269. 11:43from the record
  270. 11:45so that the fact of the commissar's
  271. 11:47existence disappeared
  272. 11:49what started in the domain of history
  273. 11:51led in time to lysinko's invasion of the
  274. 11:54natural sciences
  275. 11:56end of quote i think the analogy applies
  276. 12:00to our current situation
  277. 12:03zin smeared such great historians as
  278. 12:06samuel
  279. 12:06elliott morrison and bernard baylin with
  280. 12:10false charges of defending genocide and
  281. 12:13tyranny
  282. 12:14and he did it with such moral fervor
  283. 12:18as he pretended to uncover historical
  284. 12:21secrets
  285. 12:22so as to disabuse any sophomore of a
  286. 12:25desire to read these historians
  287. 12:28or anyone other than howard zinn
  288. 12:31champion of the oppressed indeed
  289. 12:34zinn's book to many a naive adolescent
  290. 12:38has the power of revelation as others
  291. 12:41have noted
  292. 12:43today we are suffering from our own
  293. 12:45lysenko-ism
  294. 12:47the sciences including medicine are
  295. 12:49suffering from quotas
  296. 12:51as well as their overall rejection of
  297. 12:53euro-centric
  298. 12:55thinking down to the idea of rejecting
  299. 12:58two plus two equals four
  300. 13:02in the wake of the summer's rioting and
  301. 13:05struggle
  302. 13:06sessions librarians have also
  303. 13:09vowed to decolonize their libraries
  304. 13:13one book these librarians would keep is
  305. 13:17zinn's the people's history of the
  306. 13:18united states
  307. 13:20so will amazon and other retailers
  308. 13:23considering how well it continues to
  309. 13:25sell
  310. 13:26the book has broken records in terms of
  311. 13:29sales for its
  312. 13:31type topping 3 million
  313. 13:35today the book is sold in adaptations
  314. 13:37such as a young
  315. 13:38people's history of the united states
  316. 13:42used now for several years in all 8th
  317. 13:44grade classrooms
  318. 13:46in portland oregon and surrounding areas
  319. 13:50no surprise about what's going on in
  320. 13:53portland
  321. 13:54there are spin-off people's histories
  322. 13:58of everything from the civil war to art
  323. 14:00history to sports
  324. 14:02as well as graphic adaptations and films
  325. 14:06nearly a hundred and twenty thousand
  326. 14:08educators have signed up to receive
  327. 14:11material from the zen education project
  328. 14:14and over 300 000 follow it on social
  329. 14:17media
  330. 14:19as i can attest after participating in
  331. 14:22the recent white house conference on
  332. 14:24american history
  333. 14:25they are ready to spring into action
  334. 14:28whenever
  335. 14:29their hero is criticized
  336. 14:33whereas at one time teachers would
  337. 14:35photocopy pages of zinn's book
  338. 14:37to distribute and then collect before
  339. 14:40the end of class
  340. 14:41as i learned from attending teachers
  341. 14:44conferences
  342. 14:45since the revision of the ap advanced
  343. 14:48placement u.s history standards
  344. 14:50under the obama administration the book
  345. 14:53or
  346. 14:54chapters of a people's history are
  347. 14:56frequently and openly assigned
  348. 14:58to high school students other history
  349. 15:01courses tend to follow the lead of ap
  350. 15:05even other subjects like high school
  351. 15:07english
  352. 15:08follow zinn's example and present ho chi
  353. 15:12minh
  354. 15:12speech his proclamation of independence
  355. 15:16during his propaganda stunt
  356. 15:18in 1945 as a legitimate work of
  357. 15:21rhetoric to be investigated alongside
  358. 15:25the declaration of independence
  359. 15:27for its appeals to ethos pathos and
  360. 15:30logos
  361. 15:33many of zinn's claims such as the sins
  362. 15:36of omission of slaves women and
  363. 15:38indians in the founding have become
  364. 15:40commonplace
  365. 15:41in textbooks since zinn's book came out
  366. 15:44most textbooks now begin with
  367. 15:46christopher columbus and also portray
  368. 15:48him as a genocidal rapist to zindas
  369. 15:52zinn was proud of how his book had
  370. 15:55changed americans views of columbus
  371. 15:58and in my book i chronicled how columbus
  372. 16:01statues were being defaced on columbus
  373. 16:04day
  374. 16:04and how municipalities and states were
  375. 16:07replacing columbus day with indigenous
  376. 16:10people's day
  377. 16:12then recently cbs
  378. 16:15a few days ago reported that at least 33
  379. 16:19statues of columbus
  380. 16:21have been taken down or are in the
  381. 16:23process of being removed since the
  382. 16:25renewed
  383. 16:26black lives matter protests began in
  384. 16:28late spring
  385. 16:30they were either toppled by protesters
  386. 16:33voted to be removed or stored away to
  387. 16:35avoid vandalism
  388. 16:38what is the reason christopher columbus
  389. 16:41committed genocide
  390. 16:43as the protesters claim as we know
  391. 16:46protesters had moved on from confederate
  392. 16:49statues and from columbus
  393. 16:52and on to any figure in american history
  394. 16:55in a summer of writing
  395. 16:57the zen education project attacks exempt
  396. 17:01501c3
  397. 17:02distributes lessons based on zinn's book
  398. 17:05and also material for teachers
  399. 17:08to engage their students in political
  400. 17:10lobbying
  401. 17:12they offer abolished columbus day
  402. 17:15packets that include sample resolutions
  403. 17:19resources and articles to teachers
  404. 17:22the project's lessons are also
  405. 17:25overtly political frequently naming
  406. 17:29republicans
  407. 17:30and president trump and indicting him as
  408. 17:33a re
  409. 17:33racist xenophobe the zen education
  410. 17:37project and other zen acolytes repeat
  411. 17:40zinn's own claims
  412. 17:42and argue that he was a path breaker in
  413. 17:45writing a history from the bottom
  414. 17:47up the perspective left out of
  415. 17:50traditional histories
  416. 17:52of the common people african-americans
  417. 17:55indians workers immigrants
  418. 17:59zinn however in a stalinist manner
  419. 18:02wiped out such things as the reality of
  420. 18:05brutal tribal warfare on the north
  421. 18:07american continent
  422. 18:09long before europeans arrived the role
  423. 18:12of peaceful christians in the
  424. 18:14abolitionists and civil rights movements
  425. 18:17and the stories of millions of
  426. 18:19immigrants like myself
  427. 18:21coming to america for a better life and
  428. 18:24achieving it
  429. 18:25and becoming citizens and celebrating
  430. 18:28national holidays like independence day
  431. 18:33but for zinn 1776
  432. 18:37did not mark the birth of a united
  433. 18:40states
  434. 18:41remember those excluded and then
  435. 18:45in the post-revolutionary society
  436. 18:48as he writes the problem of democracy
  437. 18:51went far
  438. 18:52deeper than constitutional limits on
  439. 18:55voting
  440. 18:56it lay in the division of society into
  441. 18:59rich and poor
  442. 19:00for some people had great wealth and
  443. 19:02great influence
  444. 19:03if they had the land the money the
  445. 19:05newspapers the church the educational
  446. 19:07system
  447. 19:08how could voting however broad cut into
  448. 19:11such power
  449. 19:12one of his favorite questions zin admits
  450. 19:16that madison's argument for an extensive
  451. 19:18republic and federalist ten
  452. 19:20can be seen as a sensible argument for
  453. 19:23having a government which can maintain
  454. 19:25peace and avoid continuous
  455. 19:27disorder then comes a series of his
  456. 19:30questions
  457. 19:31but is it the aim of government simply
  458. 19:33to maintain
  459. 19:34order as a referee between two actual
  460. 19:37actually matched
  461. 19:39fighters or is it that government has
  462. 19:41some special interest in maintaining a
  463. 19:43certain kind of order
  464. 19:44a certain distribution of what power and
  465. 19:47wealth
  466. 19:48in that case the disorder they might
  467. 19:50worry about is the disorder of popular
  468. 19:53rebellion
  469. 19:54against those monopolizing the society's
  470. 19:57wealth
  471. 19:58this interpretation makes sense when one
  472. 20:00looks at the economic interests the
  473. 20:02social backgrounds of the makers of the
  474. 20:04constitution end of quotation
  475. 20:08of course the idea that governments
  476. 20:10represent
  477. 20:11dominant economic interests comes from
  478. 20:14charles beard
  479. 20:15whose theory which was first put out in
  480. 20:191913
  481. 20:20has been repeatedly debunked but which
  482. 20:23zinn presents as a long hidden radical
  483. 20:26idea that he
  484. 20:28is finally revealing for those who would
  485. 20:32see
  486. 20:32opportunity here in america zinn says
  487. 20:35the constitution quote illustrates the
  488. 20:38complexity of the american system
  489. 20:40that it serves the interests of a
  490. 20:42wealthy elite but
  491. 20:43also does enough for small property
  492. 20:46owners
  493. 20:47for middle-income mechanics and farmers
  494. 20:49to build a broad base of support
  495. 20:52the slightly prosperous people who make
  496. 20:54up the space
  497. 20:55are buffers against the blacks the
  498. 20:57indians the very poor whites
  499. 20:59they enable the elite to keep control
  500. 21:02with a minimum of coercion
  501. 21:04a maximum of law all made palatable
  502. 21:07by the fanfare of patriotism
  503. 21:11and unity so according to zen
  504. 21:15our fundamental rights are hollow shams
  505. 21:19in fact according to zen the united
  506. 21:22states
  507. 21:22has no right to exist zinn writes
  508. 21:27that the idea quote that there really
  509. 21:31is such a thing as the united states
  510. 21:35a community of people with common
  511. 21:37interests
  512. 21:39a nation is nothing but a pretense
  513. 21:44so i ask is it any wonder that
  514. 21:47young people some serving in congress
  515. 21:51are fighting the very idea of borders
  516. 21:54much less enforcement of immigration law
  517. 21:59with such ludicrous claims
  518. 22:02it's easy to see why most historians
  519. 22:07shunned howard zinn's book when it came
  520. 22:09out
  521. 22:11except for again oscar handlin
  522. 22:14who in his review in american scholar
  523. 22:17attacked a handful of important points
  524. 22:20of fact
  525. 22:21noted zinn's presentation of fiction as
  526. 22:24fact
  527. 22:25and deemed it a quote fairy tale
  528. 22:30however zinn's book was then
  529. 22:33in 1997 prominently featured
  530. 22:37in the oscar-winning movie good will
  531. 22:39hunting
  532. 22:40and sales shot up the book got more of a
  533. 22:44boost after the formation of the zen
  534. 22:46education
  535. 22:47project in 2007 their lessons
  536. 22:51today teach zinn's lessons
  537. 22:54that the black panthers were civil
  538. 22:56rights activists
  539. 22:58that japanese internment camps were
  540. 23:00prison camps much like nazi
  541. 23:02concentration camps
  542. 23:04that vietnam achieved independence
  543. 23:08after the withdrawal of you american
  544. 23:10troops
  545. 23:11that many of the statues of historical
  546. 23:14figures
  547. 23:15gracing our public places are those of
  548. 23:17racists
  549. 23:19and that michael brown and other black
  550. 23:21men were ruthlessly gunned down by white
  551. 23:23police officers
  552. 23:25the organizers of black lives matter
  553. 23:28were honored with an
  554. 23:29award in zinn's name in 2015
  555. 23:32and the zen education project has been a
  556. 23:35distributor of black lives matter
  557. 23:38lessons
  558. 23:39and a promoter of black lives matter
  559. 23:41week
  560. 23:42in schools every february
  561. 23:45recently their curriculum writer
  562. 23:48ursula wolf raka wrote that the black
  563. 23:52lives matter
  564. 23:53protests in her city portland oregon
  565. 23:57sparked by the quote murder of george
  566. 24:00floyd
  567. 24:01were as she described it
  568. 24:04exhilaratingly extended period
  569. 24:07of nationwide protest
  570. 24:11wolf raqqa promotes zinn's idea that the
  571. 24:14united states is systemically racist
  572. 24:18zinn's storyline in his book
  573. 24:22is one of the people rising only to be
  574. 24:25put down by
  575. 24:26the system a word he uses
  576. 24:30nearly 200 times the heroes
  577. 24:33are the martyrs like abolitionist john
  578. 24:37brown
  579. 24:37who died violent deaths for their cause
  580. 24:42in a people's history zinn makes
  581. 24:44outrageous
  582. 24:46unhistorical claims such as one on page
  583. 24:4923 where he writes there is not a
  584. 24:53country
  585. 24:54in world history in which racism has
  586. 24:57been more important
  587. 24:59for so long a time as the united states
  588. 25:03this comes after he quotes a lengthy
  589. 25:06creatively rendered description of the
  590. 25:08arrival of the africans
  591. 25:11at jamestown in 1619.
  592. 25:15american slavery zinn says was
  593. 25:18quote the most cruel form of slavery in
  594. 25:22history
  595. 25:23this is because of the quote frenzy for
  596. 25:26limitless profit that comes from
  597. 25:28capitalist
  598. 25:29agriculture and because of quote racial
  599. 25:33hatred
  600. 25:34this racism comes from money incentive
  601. 25:37for exploitation
  602. 25:41so we've seen how howard zinn presents
  603. 25:451776 as a sham
  604. 25:48so which year better represents the
  605. 25:51slaveocracy
  606. 25:52that pretends to be the united states
  607. 25:57you you guessed it it's 1619.
  608. 26:00the 1619 project the 100 page new york
  609. 26:04times magazine supplement
  610. 26:07has been adopted in over 500
  611. 26:10schools the zen education
  612. 26:13project quite naturally promotes
  613. 26:17the 1619 project and offers their own
  614. 26:21lessons to supplement it as
  615. 26:24in nicole hannah jones's 1619
  616. 26:27project narrative in zinn's narrative
  617. 26:30the united states has never
  618. 26:32gotten over its slave past
  619. 26:36zinn calls the civil rights movement of
  620. 26:38the 1950s and 1960s the black revolt
  621. 26:42he's it emanated he says from the memory
  622. 26:45of slavery and after that of segregation
  623. 26:48lynching humiliation
  624. 26:50and it was not just a memory but a
  625. 26:52living presence he says
  626. 26:55part of the daily lives of blacks and
  627. 26:57generation
  628. 26:58after generation what follows then is
  629. 27:02langston hughes's poem about the dream
  630. 27:04deferred
  631. 27:05exploding and a number of similar
  632. 27:07passages
  633. 27:09from other poems
  634. 27:12martin luther king's i have a dream
  635. 27:16speech
  636. 27:17in 1963 according to zinn
  637. 27:20was quote magnificent oratory
  638. 27:23but it did not express the anger that
  639. 27:26many blacks felt
  640. 27:28malcolm x was probably closer to the
  641. 27:32mood
  642. 27:32of the black community says zinn
  643. 27:36ignoring surveys that consistently said
  644. 27:39otherwise
  645. 27:40zinn writes that the new civil rights
  646. 27:43laws did not
  647. 27:44change the root condition of black
  648. 27:46people
  649. 27:47the civil rights bills emphasized voting
  650. 27:51but voting was not a fundamental
  651. 27:53solution to racism or poverty
  652. 27:57racism in zinn's book is also evidenced
  653. 27:59in police brutality
  654. 28:02zinn presents five dubious cases of
  655. 28:05black men
  656. 28:07shot or beaten by police zinn claims
  657. 28:10these were quote
  658. 28:12normal cases and says they were
  659. 28:15and i'm quoting endlessly repeated in
  660. 28:18the history of the country
  661. 28:20coming randomly but persistently
  662. 28:24out of a racism deep in the institutions
  663. 28:29the mind of the country
  664. 28:32it's an example of some of his rhetoric
  665. 28:35howard zinn died in 2010
  666. 28:38but since then his influence has grown
  667. 28:40he was mourned by rock bands and
  668. 28:42hollywood celebrities like jane fonda
  669. 28:45his words are read in performances
  670. 28:49book fairs are held in his name lectures
  671. 28:52in his name
  672. 28:53are given every year at boston
  673. 28:54university barack obama was reported to
  674. 28:58have a special
  675. 28:59interest in zinn's book in 2011
  676. 29:03during the occupy wall street protests
  677. 29:06zinn's book was a favorite in the
  678. 29:07library of the new york city encampment
  679. 29:11out of occupy wall street grew the
  680. 29:13american version of antifa
  681. 29:16in 2012 as i can personally attest
  682. 29:20georgia state university held an all-day
  683. 29:23teach-in
  684. 29:24for teachers led by the zen education
  685. 29:27project it was an effort to stop
  686. 29:30legislation that would
  687. 29:31forbid the classroom use of la raza
  688. 29:34materials
  689. 29:36zinn's book has influenced political
  690. 29:39leaders
  691. 29:41for oklahoma city council member jo beth
  692. 29:44hammond a people's history has replaced
  693. 29:47the bible
  694. 29:49in april 2019 she took her oath of
  695. 29:53office on it
  696. 29:54instead of the bible last december
  697. 29:58a fairfax county virginia school board
  698. 30:01member
  699. 30:02also took her oath on zinn's book
  700. 30:05in maine in 2019
  701. 30:08newly elected district attorney natasha
  702. 30:12irving
  703. 30:13pledged to follow zinn's example from
  704. 30:16his autobiography
  705. 30:20we also of course have professors now
  706. 30:23espousing
  707. 30:24the violence of antifa one of them is
  708. 30:28mark bray teaching at rutgers probably
  709. 30:31today
  710. 30:32this is the kind of violence that zinn
  711. 30:34glorifies
  712. 30:36in his book zinn's book has also
  713. 30:39influenced terrorists tarak mahana who
  714. 30:42was ultimately found guilty of terrorist
  715. 30:44conspiracy with
  716. 30:45al qaeda requested a people's history
  717. 30:48along with other
  718. 30:50reading materials like the autobiography
  719. 30:52of malcolm x
  720. 30:54and an islamic text according to an
  721. 30:57article
  722. 30:58published in 2010 boston bomber
  723. 31:02zokar and sarnov if i'm pronouncing that
  724. 31:06correctly
  725. 31:07said that reading a people's history of
  726. 31:09the united states
  727. 31:10had opened his eyes to america's evil
  728. 31:15he had bonded with his history teacher
  729. 31:17larry
  730. 31:18r aronson a long time friend of the late
  731. 31:22howard zinn
  732. 31:24willem vance bronson a member of antifa
  733. 31:27and the john brown gun club who tried to
  734. 31:31blow up an ice detention facility in
  735. 31:342019
  736. 31:35left behind a manifesto saying
  737. 31:39read howard zinn a people's history of
  738. 31:42the united states
  739. 31:44he said it would reveal the quote
  740. 31:47fascism ascendant
  741. 31:49in the u.s a new book in defense of
  742. 31:52looting
  743. 31:53uses zinn as one of many marxist sources
  744. 31:58this year many schools are following
  745. 32:01the lead of the zen education project
  746. 32:03and teaching black lives matter
  747. 32:05curriculum
  748. 32:07zen education project has been reminding
  749. 32:10teachers of black lives matter week
  750. 32:12every february encouraging them to wear
  751. 32:15t-shirts
  752. 32:16advertising such and to use their
  753. 32:18lessons such as
  754. 32:19when black lives matter why
  755. 32:22teach reconstruction by adam sanchez
  756. 32:26this lesson begins every day seems to
  757. 32:29bring new horrors
  758. 32:30as the u.s president's racist rhetoric
  759. 32:33and policies
  760. 32:34have provided an increasingly
  761. 32:36encouraging environment
  762. 32:38for attacks on black people and other
  763. 32:41communities of
  764. 32:42color in the buffalo new york
  765. 32:45public school districts blm lessons will
  766. 32:48begin with pre-k
  767. 32:50and will infuse black lives matter
  768. 32:52guiding principles
  769. 32:54into everyday curriculum and resources
  770. 32:58there is a service that adapts news
  771. 33:01articles for grade appropriate reading
  772. 33:04levels called new zealand
  773. 33:06as one of its partners it has the zen
  774. 33:09education
  775. 33:10project to put the spin on the news
  776. 33:14a year ago two teacher teach-ins
  777. 33:18really continuing education programs
  778. 33:21on abolishing columbus day were put on
  779. 33:24by the zen education
  780. 33:26project one was held at the smithsonian
  781. 33:30as i reported in my book the zen
  782. 33:33education
  783. 33:34project for a fee provides trainers
  784. 33:37to schools across the country
  785. 33:41taxpayers through the national endowment
  786. 33:44for the humanities
  787. 33:46subsidize continue summer continuing
  788. 33:49education
  789. 33:50programs for teachers coordinated by
  790. 33:53or with the zen education project
  791. 33:57one being held this coming summer
  792. 34:00at duke university called the civil
  793. 34:04rights movement
  794. 34:05grassroots perspectives features
  795. 34:08veterans from the student non-violent
  796. 34:11coordinating committee
  797. 34:13the group mentored by zinn in the 1960s
  798. 34:18writing the curriculum are deborah
  799. 34:20menkar
  800. 34:21co-director of the zen education project
  801. 34:24and ursula wolf raqa one of
  802. 34:27the organization's two curriculum
  803. 34:30directors the one who had praised the
  804. 34:32black lives matter protests in portland
  805. 34:36she too wolf rocca
  806. 34:40regularly infuses her articles and
  807. 34:42lessons with anti-trump invective
  808. 34:46one article published in september 2018
  809. 34:49bore the headline civics will not
  810. 34:52save us from trump
  811. 34:56this is not the first time such a
  812. 34:58workshop was put on
  813. 35:00in 2018 a similar one was conducted
  814. 35:04again at duke with the zen education
  815. 35:07project's mencart as the curriculum
  816. 35:09coordinator
  817. 35:11the zen education project i think
  818. 35:14was disappointed that their lessons
  819. 35:17offered for this
  820. 35:18constitution day in a mailing labeled
  821. 35:22black lives matter rethinking
  822. 35:25constitution day in 2020
  823. 35:28and beginning with these words black
  824. 35:31lives did not matter to the rich white
  825. 35:33men who met in
  826. 35:351787 were challenged by the president
  827. 35:39of the united states and me
  828. 35:50i was so happy to get that invitation
  829. 35:54mere hours after my talk at the white
  830. 35:57house conference
  831. 35:58on american history on constitution day
  832. 36:01the zen education project sent
  833. 36:05out a fundraising email stating
  834. 36:08teaching people's history is about
  835. 36:11empowering
  836. 36:12and invigorating students to better
  837. 36:14understand the perspectives of workers
  838. 36:16women black
  839. 36:17indigenous and people of color whose
  840. 36:20voices are too
  841. 36:21often erased in the corporate produced
  842. 36:23textbooks
  843. 36:25but mary graybar doesn't want young
  844. 36:28people to hear those voices
  845. 36:30graybar who has written an anti-howard
  846. 36:33zinn
  847. 36:34book and travels the country attacking
  848. 36:36zinn and the zen education project
  849. 36:39said at the white house conference on
  850. 36:41american history
  851. 36:43that zinn's writing imposes the false
  852. 36:45idea that the united states is
  853. 36:47characterized by quote
  854. 36:49systemic racism wealth inequality and
  855. 36:51police brutality
  856. 36:53end of my quote graybar offered no
  857. 36:56evidence
  858. 36:56to refute this critique of u.s history
  859. 37:01of course they knew about my book and
  860. 37:04the evidence i provide there
  861. 37:07they seemed to know my travel schedule
  862. 37:13but they did not even mention the title
  863. 37:15of my book
  864. 37:17instead they charged that i quote
  865. 37:20fretted that impressionable readers have
  866. 37:23been stirred to action by the zen
  867. 37:25education
  868. 37:26project curriculum and howard zins of
  869. 37:29people's history of the united states
  870. 37:31saying quoting me again people reading
  871. 37:34it cry and get angry
  872. 37:36sometimes taking to the street the zen
  873. 37:38book was the most popular book for
  874. 37:40occupy wall street protesters
  875. 37:43and of quoting me they continue
  876. 37:46we at the zen education project plead
  877. 37:50guilty
  878. 37:51teaching people's history can elicit
  879. 37:54great emotion
  880. 37:55about oppression and injustice and may
  881. 37:58inspire people to move to action
  882. 38:02so there you have it teaching people's
  883. 38:06history
  884. 38:07can elicit great emotion about
  885. 38:09oppression
  886. 38:10and injustice and may inspire people to
  887. 38:13move
  888. 38:14to action in their words
  889. 38:17these people however are often mere
  890. 38:20children
  891. 38:20or adolescents so
  892. 38:24the zen education project admits to
  893. 38:27being an activist
  894. 38:28organization they do not even deign to
  895. 38:32defend
  896. 38:32criticism of their lessons there is more
  897. 38:36than enough reason
  898. 38:37in my opinion to remove zinn's materials
  899. 38:41from
  900. 38:42classrooms i think all would agree here
  901. 38:44there is no reason
  902. 38:46also not yank zen education projects
  903. 38:50non-profit status
  904. 38:53and educators openly brag about using
  905. 38:57zinn's history
  906. 39:01we may keep our own children from zinn's
  907. 39:04baleful influence but his
  908. 39:07today his true believers are out on the
  909. 39:10streets
  910. 39:11ready to accost anyone refusing to
  911. 39:15repeat their revolutionary slogans
  912. 39:18and sadly i have heard from many parents
  913. 39:22who had homeschooled or privately
  914. 39:24schooled their own children
  915. 39:26only to have them lured by a professor
  916. 39:29or
  917. 39:30friend to zinn's seductive
  918. 39:33prose not all
  919. 39:36students are like hannah wright
  920. 39:40who wrote to me last winter about her
  921. 39:42zen
  922. 39:43worshiping professor who repeated zinn's
  923. 39:46own claim to have written history from a
  924. 39:49quote different perspective
  925. 39:51the professor told her that callings in
  926. 39:54biased was offensive
  927. 39:58because it meant quote that either the
  928. 40:00author
  929. 40:01ignored evidence that would have changed
  930. 40:03his conclusions
  931. 40:04or he didn't bother with evidence at all
  932. 40:08end of quote those who would criticize
  933. 40:12zinn's book are quote the people who
  934. 40:16have a problem with any history book
  935. 40:18that does not seek to stimulate a
  936. 40:20nationalist
  937. 40:21pride in america or are some
  938. 40:24joe schmoe on the internet i guess like
  939. 40:27me
  940. 40:31and she also accused those like me this
  941. 40:34professor
  942. 40:35that they never provide evidence for
  943. 40:37their criticism my book has been out
  944. 40:40for over a year now but zinn's book
  945. 40:43does not simply present offer another
  946. 40:47perspective without question
  947. 40:51the falsifications that pepper
  948. 40:54every page are intentional it is
  949. 40:57propaganda communist disinformation
  950. 41:02and as if such a domestic
  951. 41:06disinformation campaign were not bad
  952. 41:09enough zinn's book is used in
  953. 41:12international anti-american
  954. 41:15campaigns it has been translated into
  955. 41:19more than a dozen languages including
  956. 41:21french
  957. 41:22spanish chinese and arabic
  958. 41:26it has been distributed all over the
  959. 41:28world
  960. 41:29including in russia by americans
  961. 41:33by the bureau of educational and
  962. 41:35cultural affairs of the american
  963. 41:38embassy which sponsored the
  964. 41:412006 russian language publication
  965. 41:45of a people's history of the united
  966. 41:48states
  967. 41:52a few days ago
  968. 41:55to bring us up to date i received an
  969. 41:57email
  970. 41:59from a journalist in iran
  971. 42:02a former american studies student as he
  972. 42:05described himself
  973. 42:06at the faculty of world studies at the
  974. 42:08university of tehran
  975. 42:11where he said a people's history was
  976. 42:14quote a bible
  977. 42:16as it was for anti-americans in iran
  978. 42:20it is the only book on u.s
  979. 42:24history not published by the regime
  980. 42:28in publication in iran
  981. 42:31he wrote that he was happy to see my
  982. 42:35speech and the white house's initiative
  983. 42:37i guess he
  984. 42:38caught it on the youtube channel that
  985. 42:40the white house has
  986. 42:42and he would try to get my book
  987. 42:46this young iranian is inspiring
  988. 42:50but i i think that we can do more
  989. 42:53than someone living in iran in terms of
  990. 42:56taking zinn's falsified
  991. 43:00communist propaganda out of our schools
  992. 43:05and i hope people will
  993. 43:08start to work on that so thank you very
  994. 43:13[Applause]
  995. 43:24much
  996. 43:27some time for q a if you have a question
  997. 43:30please make your way to one of the
  998. 43:31microphones in the side aisles
  999. 43:43question on the speaker's right
  1000. 43:47thank you my name is tanya store and i
  1001. 43:49am
  1002. 43:50so grateful to get to be here and and
  1003. 43:52listen to you today and just
  1004. 43:53more of a statement i guess um than a
  1005. 43:56than a question but
  1006. 43:58this is much deeper than even i was
  1007. 44:00aware and in january i took a
  1008. 44:03serious look and actually one of the
  1009. 44:05reasons that i filed to run
  1010. 44:07for the nebraska legislature was because
  1011. 44:09the sitting senator
  1012. 44:11had co-sponsored a bill to replace
  1013. 44:13columbus day
  1014. 44:14with indigenous people day it
  1015. 44:18struck me as very wrong and as i
  1016. 44:20continued to do
  1017. 44:21a little homework and including what
  1018. 44:23you've shared today
  1019. 44:24i understand why and and how and i'm
  1020. 44:28shocked at even how deep
  1021. 44:29the roots of this go my children were
  1022. 44:32all raised in a conservative home
  1023. 44:34went to country school in nebraska
  1024. 44:38and i i was shocked in a conversation
  1025. 44:41with my son
  1026. 44:42who is a conservative a strong christian
  1027. 44:45young man
  1028. 44:46about this issue of columbus day and he
  1029. 44:49agreed we shouldn't be getting rid of
  1030. 44:50american holidays
  1031. 44:51absolutely mom i support you in that but
  1032. 44:53he said something very troubling to me
  1033. 44:55that woke me up and he said
  1034. 44:57but you have to admit he wasn't a very
  1035. 44:58nice guy
  1036. 45:00and my response to him was who told you
  1037. 45:02that
  1038. 45:04and and the conversation you know i it
  1039. 45:06became aware that somewhere along the
  1040. 45:08line
  1041. 45:09um he had been taught in school that he
  1042. 45:12wasn't a very nice guy and
  1043. 45:14and i said i was never taught that um i
  1044. 45:16was taught he was courageous
  1045. 45:18and he opened up the free world um to
  1046. 45:20the gospel among many other things
  1047. 45:22and and his response was well you you do
  1048. 45:24have to admit your history books were
  1049. 45:26probably a little whitewashed
  1050. 45:28um so so this is a young man who was
  1051. 45:31raised
  1052. 45:32in a conservative home into a country
  1053. 45:34school
  1054. 45:35um in a small rural conservative
  1055. 45:38community and so
  1056. 45:39the the the threads of this are much
  1057. 45:42deeper than i was even aware so thank
  1058. 45:44you
  1059. 45:44so much for what what you've done to
  1060. 45:46bring light to this
  1061. 45:49thank you
  1062. 45:50[Applause]
  1063. 45:55yeah i'm proud to say that i will be
  1064. 45:58honored by the sons and daughters
  1065. 46:00of italy in february or
  1066. 46:04exposing i've got a lot of italian
  1067. 46:06groups writing to me and thanking me
  1068. 46:13because what i do in my book is
  1069. 46:17what zinn did was criminal he
  1070. 46:20did what every english teacher says you
  1071. 46:23should not do which is when you use
  1072. 46:25ellipses those four dots
  1073. 46:28or three dots that indicate an emission
  1074. 46:30of words but you're not supposed to
  1075. 46:31change
  1076. 46:32you know the meaning right they're not
  1077. 46:34essential well
  1078. 46:36he uses ellipses to eliminate two days
  1079. 46:39worth of
  1080. 46:40columbus's journal entries and
  1081. 46:44he misidentifies uh you know
  1082. 46:47the who they are and that begins the
  1083. 46:51quotation
  1084. 46:52and he leaves out words that columbus
  1085. 46:55wrote down
  1086. 46:56like uh and i instructed my men to treat
  1087. 47:00them with kindness for we can convert
  1088. 47:03them
  1089. 47:04more by love than by force and has
  1090. 47:07repeated
  1091. 47:08uh you know orders to his men
  1092. 47:12to treat them with kindness he um
  1093. 47:15even you know had six of them baptized
  1094. 47:18he adopted
  1095. 47:20one of them he did everything that
  1096. 47:24he could to you know convert
  1097. 47:28the natives he never pillaged or
  1098. 47:32raped or chopped off hands which is what
  1099. 47:35you get from zinn's book and it has just
  1100. 47:38permeated our
  1101. 47:41understanding or americans understanding
  1102. 47:43of christopher columbus
  1103. 47:45and so i'm hoping that you know
  1104. 47:49when a young man uh like
  1105. 47:52the questioner's son asks you know and
  1106. 47:55says that this is you know
  1107. 47:57he was not a nice guy that at least
  1108. 48:01i i provide the evidence
  1109. 48:04i look at the passage
  1110. 48:07and i look at what zinn says and i say
  1111. 48:10this is what he's leaving out
  1112. 48:12and people can go back and they can look
  1113. 48:14at my
  1114. 48:15endnotes and there are almost a thousand
  1115. 48:17of them and
  1116. 48:19look at the original source and look at
  1117. 48:21what zin says
  1118. 48:22and also there you know i have pages of
  1119. 48:26comparative quotations from zinn
  1120. 48:29and the guy he quoted from
  1121. 48:32hans koning and that's not a history
  1122. 48:35book it's a polemic
  1123. 48:37so i'm hoping with the evidence you know
  1124. 48:40that that
  1125. 48:41um you know zinn was not simply writing
  1126. 48:44history from another perspective he is
  1127. 48:47not
  1128. 48:48simply biased he changes the facts
  1129. 48:52and we would never use a textbook
  1130. 48:55that changes the facts or uses a
  1131. 48:57holocaust denying
  1132. 48:59historian um as a source
  1133. 49:03for a textbook this you know zinn's book
  1134. 49:05was never vetted
  1135. 49:07and um but yet you know it's been there
  1136. 49:09for 40 years and it's
  1137. 49:10trickled down we we have a question on
  1138. 49:14the speaker's left
  1139. 49:16mary a couple things number one is i'm
  1140. 49:19wondering
  1141. 49:19in your research if you've come across
  1142. 49:22any evidence of
  1143. 49:24george soros dirty money funding any of
  1144. 49:26this zen
  1145. 49:27project that's my first question and
  1146. 49:30number two
  1147. 49:31i would hope that everyone here contacts
  1148. 49:34their
  1149. 49:35congressman and emails and writes
  1150. 49:37letters to them to request this
  1151. 49:38organization's 501 c
  1152. 49:403 status be eliminated
  1153. 49:44yeah i think there needs to be a public
  1154. 49:46campaign to pull
  1155. 49:47um the non-profit status i know from
  1156. 49:50what i went through just to try to get
  1157. 49:52my organization going and i was
  1158. 49:54criticizing common core standards
  1159. 49:57you know have after having taught
  1160. 49:59college english
  1161. 50:00saying that they you know were bad and
  1162. 50:03um
  1163. 50:04you know i had to you know they put you
  1164. 50:07through hell
  1165. 50:08um i have not come across
  1166. 50:13you know where the funding comes from
  1167. 50:15that's not very apparent because the zen
  1168. 50:17education project
  1169. 50:19coordinates with rethinking schools and
  1170. 50:22another
  1171. 50:22organization that writes the curriculum
  1172. 50:26and then the zen education project puts
  1173. 50:29it out there so
  1174. 50:31it it's not they they don't put their
  1175. 50:35990s online like a lot of nonprofits do
  1176. 50:39so that would be an interesting uh thing
  1177. 50:42to look at
  1178. 50:43they claim they get a lot of private
  1179. 50:45donations but i'm
  1180. 50:46sure um you know that
  1181. 50:50i wouldn't be surprised um you know
  1182. 50:53uh the student of howard zinn's from the
  1183. 50:551970s bill holtzman
  1184. 50:58uh you know continues to give money uh
  1185. 51:02matt damon who wrote
  1186. 51:05and uh co-starred goodwill hunting gives
  1187. 51:09money
  1188. 51:10promotes it so you know you've got some
  1189. 51:14rich people there
  1190. 51:15supporting this organization we have a
  1191. 51:18question on the speakers right
  1192. 51:21thank you so much i learned so much
  1193. 51:23today
  1194. 51:24i'm my question is this is just an
  1195. 51:26overwhelming
  1196. 51:27amount of information when you try to
  1197. 51:29share it with somebody so
  1198. 51:30we're in an era of sound bites of and so
  1199. 51:32my question to you is
  1200. 51:34what are the top three takeaways of what
  1201. 51:37howard zinn is doing
  1202. 51:38the effective howard's inn today for our
  1203. 51:41students
  1204. 51:43he's he inspires them to hate their own
  1205. 51:47country
  1206. 51:49he inspires them to violence
  1207. 51:52and i think he inspires a sense of
  1208. 51:56hopelessness
  1209. 51:59you know in a country because the way he
  1210. 52:02presents it is that this
  1211. 52:04country cannot be redeemed as it is
  1212. 52:08set up through our own government and
  1213. 52:10when
  1214. 52:11president trump described
  1215. 52:14this kind of education as child abuse
  1216. 52:18it is it really is it's um
  1217. 52:23you know it sets people up against each
  1218. 52:25other and
  1219. 52:26um you know to to tell young people
  1220. 52:30that you know the country that they live
  1221. 52:32in is irredeemably
  1222. 52:34racist and uh unfair
  1223. 52:38and unjust it you know has got to do
  1224. 52:41a number on young people
  1225. 52:45and that and i think you know i would
  1226. 52:47like to do a survey
  1227. 52:48of people out there protesting and black
  1228. 52:51lives matter and antifa
  1229. 52:53and see how many of them were inspired
  1230. 52:56by zen
  1231. 52:57that'd be very interesting we have a
  1232. 52:59question on the speaker's left
  1233. 53:02so zinn seemed to make a very long
  1234. 53:04career on an indictment
  1235. 53:06of the united states including
  1236. 53:09especially the founding of it
  1237. 53:11so if he took his principles and applied
  1238. 53:14them outward
  1239. 53:16towards other countries and nations of
  1240. 53:18the world
  1241. 53:19what country or nation's history would
  1242. 53:22pass
  1243. 53:23muster under zinn's principles
  1244. 53:27to him i think you probably would say
  1245. 53:28none but what would he say to that
  1246. 53:31well what howard zinn does and he uh
  1247. 53:34takes this from angles and
  1248. 53:36william z fosters he presents
  1249. 53:39uh the native tribes living here before
  1250. 53:42the europeans came
  1251. 53:43as this kind of bucolic paradise
  1252. 53:47where there was no war where women were
  1253. 53:50empowered
  1254. 53:51where people were free there was no
  1255. 53:54greed
  1256. 53:55which is the exact opposite of the way
  1257. 53:58it was
  1258. 53:59and so these were kind of proto-hippies
  1259. 54:02the way he presents them you know
  1260. 54:04remember he is
  1261. 54:05someone of the 1960s that was the heyday
  1262. 54:09for him
  1263. 54:10and so he claims like other communist
  1264. 54:14propagandists do that the native people
  1265. 54:18lived in this paradise where they shared
  1266. 54:21and he implies that if we sort of
  1267. 54:25drop all the characteristics of
  1268. 54:28eurocentrism or
  1269. 54:29western civilization like hierarchies
  1270. 54:33and linear thought and you know all
  1271. 54:36those uh
  1272. 54:38you know criticisms of you know that
  1273. 54:39post-modernists have that we can return
  1274. 54:42to that sort of garden of eden that
  1275. 54:45that's
  1276. 54:46that's who it is and he also he also
  1277. 54:48claims that in other countries like
  1278. 54:51vietnam that the communist movements
  1279. 54:54were
  1280. 54:55local movements the people just rising
  1281. 54:58up
  1282. 54:58and trying to you know have more
  1283. 55:02control over their own government and
  1284. 55:04live more fairly and justly
  1285. 55:07we have a question on the speaker's
  1286. 55:09right
  1287. 55:11i've been listening to the nonsense of
  1288. 55:13the
  1289. 55:14liberals for many many years
  1290. 55:17and i fail to understand why seemingly
  1291. 55:21intelligent people can let themselves be
  1292. 55:24seduced by
  1293. 55:26this these thoughts is it they they have
  1294. 55:29envy the freedom that we have or do they
  1295. 55:32just want to control
  1296. 55:34everybody and everything that they do
  1297. 55:39well zen targets and people who use this
  1298. 55:43materials
  1299. 55:43target young people and
  1300. 55:47what zinn hides in his book
  1301. 55:52you know are the horrors of communism
  1302. 55:56so if you get only one side of history
  1303. 56:01and you don't know any other and
  1304. 56:03increasingly as surveys
  1305. 56:04show young people are ignorant about
  1306. 56:07history
  1307. 56:09and um and there is a false reality
  1308. 56:12that's created
  1309. 56:14and i think this is part of uh
  1310. 56:17you know the propaganda that's taught in
  1311. 56:21our
  1312. 56:22schools so a student can say
  1313. 56:26well you know um you know we have
  1314. 56:29affirmative
  1315. 56:30action uh our
  1316. 56:33laws are race new supposed to be race
  1317. 56:36neutral
  1318. 56:37um i see kids of all races and
  1319. 56:40ethnicities of varying
  1320. 56:42income levels but if they
  1321. 56:45have this material pounded into them day
  1322. 56:49after day
  1323. 56:50they begin to believe it and also one of
  1324. 56:53the
  1325. 56:53things that i critiqued about common
  1326. 56:55core is the teaching
  1327. 56:57strategies have changed we now have
  1328. 57:00social and emotional learning
  1329. 57:03so students aren't sitting down
  1330. 57:07and reading long works discussing them
  1331. 57:10in class
  1332. 57:12listening to lectures they get short
  1333. 57:16snippets you know selected for their
  1334. 57:19emotional appeal
  1335. 57:21and they're told to uh you know just
  1336. 57:24discuss
  1337. 57:24in their groups they're graded on their
  1338. 57:28ability to respect you know diversity
  1339. 57:33and one of the things about howard zinn
  1340. 57:35and i you know i focused
  1341. 57:37mostly on the facts that he twists
  1342. 57:41around
  1343. 57:42the deliberate disinformation along with
  1344. 57:45a chapter
  1345. 57:45on his sordid life which is kind of
  1346. 57:48interesting
  1347. 57:51notorious womanizer with his students
  1348. 57:56is is his very skillful
  1349. 58:01use of propaganda
  1350. 58:04to someone who is young and naive and
  1351. 58:07doesn't know any better
  1352. 58:09they get sucked up into it they
  1353. 58:12you people even adults say that
  1354. 58:16they cry after they read howard zinn's
  1355. 58:19book
  1356. 58:20they get angry
  1357. 58:23so you know he he was kind of an evil
  1358. 58:27genius
  1359. 58:28he knew what he was doing and he
  1360. 58:31used the techniques of propaganda david
  1361. 58:34horowitz
  1362. 58:36called it the mind conf of american
  1363. 58:39history
  1364. 58:40and he uses the same strategies
  1365. 58:43and i you know and i think students also
  1366. 58:45need to be
  1367. 58:46taught you know what our legitimate
  1368. 58:49history
  1369. 58:50writing techniques how is
  1370. 58:53someone manipulating your emotions
  1371. 58:57with words so
  1372. 59:01you know we we need to start teaching
  1373. 59:04that again
  1374. 59:05and this reliance on emotion i think
  1375. 59:08is is you know swaying people and it
  1376. 59:12sort of clouds their judgment
  1377. 59:16all right please join me in thanking dr
  1378. 59:19[Applause]
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