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Market Predictions - Next 6 Months (Buyouts? Burnout? Corrections?) One Piece TCG — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Hello and welcome to One Piece of
  2. 0:01Insight. In today's video, I will be
  3. 0:04attempting to make sense of what is
  4. 0:05likely to happen over the next 6 months.
  5. 0:08So, for those who don't know, we have a
  6. 0:09slew of product releases coming out over
  7. 0:12the next 6 months in the One Piece TCG.
  8. 0:14Prices are already crazy. Are they going
  9. 0:16to go crazier? Are they going to fall
  10. 0:17down? Are we going to have a correction
  11. 0:19at some point? I don't inherently know
  12. 0:21the answers to these questions, but I
  13. 0:22thought it might be helpful to take a
  14. 0:23structured look at the next 6 months to
  15. 0:26see what we could figure out and see
  16. 0:27what questions we still have. So, with
  17. 0:29that as always, this is intended to be
  18. 0:31interesting and informative, but not
  19. 0:32financial advice. So, naturally, your
  20. 0:34first question is probably like if you
  21. 0:35don't have a crystal ball, why are we
  22. 0:37trying to predict what's going to happen
  23. 0:38over the next 6 months? I try to use
  24. 0:39this information to do strategic
  25. 0:41planning, to think about how I may want
  26. 0:43to prioritize resources, when I may want
  27. 0:45to purchase things, what things I want
  28. 0:46to purchase. I use it to identify buy
  29. 0:48and sell opportunities. I use it as a
  30. 0:50framework to evaluate events and also to
  31. 0:53learn when I end up being wrong, the
  32. 0:56reason why I was wrong, the direction in
  33. 0:57which I'm wrong. I want to tell a quick
  34. 0:59story from like a couple weeks ago. So,
  35. 1:01some of you may know, I made a video
  36. 1:03where I predicted what the prices were
  37. 1:04going to be for OP15 and I said that I
  38. 1:07thought that the Robin was going to be
  39. 1:09about $1,500 on release and then I
  40. 1:11thought that it was eventually going to
  41. 1:12fall down to a low of around $800 and
  42. 1:14settle somewhere in like the $1,000
  43. 1:16range. So, OP16 comes out and what is
  44. 1:18Robin at release? $650.
  45. 1:21So, obviously, that's wildly wrong from
  46. 1:24what I said was $1,500. But, my $1,500
  47. 1:27price was a mix of like what I thought
  48. 1:28comps were and also what I thought hype
  49. 1:31was going to be. So, now I have these
  50. 1:33two different heuristics. One is that
  51. 1:36this should probably be like at least an
  52. 1:38$800 SP, maybe $1,000, maybe even more.
  53. 1:42And then the other is never buy on
  54. 1:44release because prices always fall after
  55. 1:45release. And now in my mind, I have to
  56. 1:48square these two things. Had I not done
  57. 1:49the prediction, the only heuristic I
  58. 1:51would have had was never buy on release.
  59. 1:53And I would have said, "Well, if it's
  60. 1:55$650, it's going to continue to fall and
  61. 1:58fall and fall for the next few months
  62. 1:59and then I'll finally buy it, right?
  63. 2:01But, because I had done the analysis to
  64. 2:03say I think this should be an $800 card,
  65. 2:05when it hit $540,
  66. 2:07I decided to make the decision to buy
  67. 2:09because I felt that one of those
  68. 2:12heuristics had to be wrong and I thought
  69. 2:14it was more likely that the heuristic of
  70. 2:17don't buy when something was newly
  71. 2:19released was wrong rather than the comps
  72. 2:22being wrong about what that card is
  73. 2:23eventually going to be worth. So, I
  74. 2:24bought mine at $540 and now the card is
  75. 2:27up to 750, 800, 850 depending on, you
  76. 2:30know, when this releases. So, all of
  77. 2:32this is to say that like, no, my
  78. 2:34prediction wasn't right,
  79. 2:35>> [laughter]
  80. 2:36>> right? I thought there was going to be
  81. 2:37way more hype and it clearly went in the
  82. 2:39opposite direction. But, the reason that
  83. 2:41prediction was valuable was because it
  84. 2:43gave me the information I needed to say
  85. 2:44something's off here, something's
  86. 2:46different from what I originally
  87. 2:48expected. Why is it different and what
  88. 2:50decision should I make based on it being
  89. 2:52different? And so, based on that, I
  90. 2:54decided to buy at a much cheaper price.
  91. 2:56Had I waited, I would have had to pay a
  92. 2:58lot more. I also want to take this
  93. 3:00moment to go quickly on a rant. Uh as
  94. 3:03many of you who have purchased off
  95. 3:05TCGPlayer or eBay or other stores know,
  96. 3:08sometimes when you make a right decision
  97. 3:10and you buy things when something is low
  98. 3:12and then it goes up in price, you may
  99. 3:13magically find that your order was
  100. 3:15refunded, they lost the card, it was
  101. 3:17lost in the mail, whatever reason,
  102. 3:19right?
  103. 3:20I will be honest, I was prepared to be
  104. 3:22frustrated about this. I was coming up
  105. 3:23with arguments in my head of what I was
  106. 3:25going to say when they didn't send my
  107. 3:26card and then it came in the mail, both
  108. 3:28of them. The Robin that I paid $540 for
  109. 3:31and the Ace that I paid $214 for. And I
  110. 3:34was shocked and floored and deeply
  111. 3:35appreciative. So, rather than coming on
  112. 3:38here and saying negative things about
  113. 3:40vendors who don't send theirs, I wanted
  114. 3:42to give props to two vendors who really
  115. 3:44stood behind their word. They sold a
  116. 3:46card, you know, it went up in price and
  117. 3:47they sent it anyway because that was the
  118. 3:48deal they made. And like, in a world
  119. 3:50where it's become so incredibly
  120. 3:52difficult to trust people and in my view
  121. 3:55is sort of like poisoning the hobby, I
  122. 3:56just can't describe how much I
  123. 3:57appreciate that. So, mad props to Over
  124. 4:00the Top Games LLC as well as the lounge.
  125. 4:03I don't know anything about them except
  126. 4:04that I've made this one transaction, but
  127. 4:06like I would definitely buy from them in
  128. 4:08the future because they were good to
  129. 4:09their word and that means a ton. And all
  130. 4:12of this has had me thinking more about
  131. 4:13like, you know, we spend a lot of money
  132. 4:16on this hobby. We get to decide what we
  133. 4:18spend the money on and we get to choose
  134. 4:20to vote with our dollars. And I
  135. 4:22personally am just tired of spending
  136. 4:24money in directions where I just don't
  137. 4:28like their ethics. I was at GameStop
  138. 4:30today because
  139. 4:31uh we were stopped at a mall for some
  140. 4:33other reason and I really wanted a first
  141. 4:35partner collection, you know, the new um
  142. 4:37Pokémon set that came out and they had
  143. 4:39one for 60 bucks. And I was like, well,
  144. 4:41I you know, I still have my GameStop Pro
  145. 4:42account, so I have a $5 coupon and I
  146. 4:44have probably some credit for that. So,
  147. 4:46you know, that'll get it down to like 50
  148. 4:47bucks. So, I'll just buy it here even
  149. 4:49though it's overpriced.
  150. 4:50And the response that I got was, "Oh,
  151. 4:52well, if you want to use any of those
  152. 4:54coupons, you need to download our app
  153. 4:56and you need to do all these things."
  154. 4:57And like structures deliberately put in
  155. 4:59place so that people can't actually use
  156. 5:01the benefit they paid for and I was just
  157. 5:03done. Like, if you are going to so badly
  158. 5:06abuse the community and take advantage
  159. 5:08of us that like, you know, we paid for
  160. 5:10your pro membership and now we don't get
  161. 5:11to use it, like I'm done with you. I can
  162. 5:14spend my money at local game stores who
  163. 5:17build community, who are focused on
  164. 5:18players, who are doing great things
  165. 5:21rather than spending my money on sort of
  166. 5:22like these corporate overlords who don't
  167. 5:25care at all about the hobby, don't care
  168. 5:27at all about us, and want to squeeze us
  169. 5:28for every penny that we're worth.
  170. 5:30And honestly, I'm not going to judge
  171. 5:32anybody who makes any decision that they
  172. 5:34decide to make, right? If you want to
  173. 5:35buy from GameStop because it's
  174. 5:36convenient, that's fine. If you want to
  175. 5:38send your cards into PSA because they're
  176. 5:39worth more money and they're easier to
  177. 5:41flip, that's fine. But like these
  178. 5:43companies that are squeezing us for
  179. 5:44everything that we're worth and not
  180. 5:45giving back, I'm done with them. They're
  181. 5:47not getting any more of my money. And so
  182. 5:49that's all I wanted to say on that. So,
  183. 5:51apologies for the rant, but I, you know,
  184. 5:53I've I've gotten the sense from people
  185. 5:54in the comments that I'm not the only
  186. 5:55one who's feeling that way, so I just
  187. 5:57wanted to share. Okay, moving on to the
  188. 5:59actual content. Okay, so let's quickly
  189. 6:01talk through the product release
  190. 6:02schedule. So, you know, we just had OP16
  191. 6:05come out. It was not exactly like the
  192. 6:06biggest hit. It sounds like a lot of
  193. 6:08people are waiting for a second release
  194. 6:10to come. Obviously, the big elephant in
  195. 6:12the room is the OP17 release in August.
  196. 6:15Now, part of the challenge in figuring
  197. 6:17out what's going to happen over the next
  198. 6:186 months is because the anniversary sets
  199. 6:21usually released around the holidays, um
  200. 6:24it was much easier to be able to say
  201. 6:26like, well, historically One Piece has
  202. 6:29had a bull run during the holidays. Now
  203. 6:31that they've changed the release and
  204. 6:32they bumped it back a little bit, it's a
  205. 6:33little bit harder for me to know how
  206. 6:35much historical comps are going to be
  207. 6:36relevant here, but stick with me.
  208. 6:39Not only though do we have OP17, which
  209. 6:41is going to be an absolutely massive
  210. 6:42release, after that we then have, and
  211. 6:45they just announced this,
  212. 6:46EB05, which is going to be another
  213. 6:49Heroines Collection coming right on the
  214. 6:51heels of OP17. I cannot for the life of
  215. 6:53me understand why Bandai would do this,
  216. 6:56why they would take a moment where
  217. 6:57there's already tremendous hype and
  218. 6:58probably insufficient supply, and then
  219. 7:00they would release another set that is
  220. 7:02going to be incredibly hyped and
  221. 7:04insufficient supply
  222. 7:06all at the same time that they are also
  223. 7:08planning to release another card game in
  224. 7:102027. But, we're going to have to live
  225. 7:11with it because it's what's happening.
  226. 7:13And then, after that, we have a month
  227. 7:16later the OP18 release, right? We don't
  228. 7:19have any information yet about OP18, so
  229. 7:21I don't know if it's going to be a great
  230. 7:22set or if it's going to be a lackluster
  231. 7:23set, but all of that is to say there is
  232. 7:25a lot that is going to happen over the
  233. 7:26next 6 months, and that makes it
  234. 7:28particularly difficult to tell how long
  235. 7:30this bull run is going to last and when
  236. 7:33it is eventually going to end. So, to
  237. 7:34frame the conversation, I wanted to
  238. 7:36revisit something that we talked about
  239. 7:37in a previous video, which is to
  240. 7:38understand how different types of
  241. 7:40markets
  242. 7:42result in price changes across different
  243. 7:44categories within those markets. So,
  244. 7:45right now I think we're in a hot market
  245. 7:47and we will see everything go up when
  246. 7:49we're in a hot market. In particular
  247. 7:51though, the things that tend to go up
  248. 7:52the most are grails, mid to low tier
  249. 7:55cards, and I would also put slabs in
  250. 7:57that category as well. Now, what I'm
  251. 7:59about to show you is sort of like my
  252. 8:01rationalization of how I think these
  253. 8:03bull markets tend to go, but it's not
  254. 8:05scientific and obviously you could poke
  255. 8:079 trillion holes in it which I will do
  256. 8:10as well. So, I wanted to characterize
  257. 8:13what I see as sort of like the typical
  258. 8:15bull market run. It often starts with,
  259. 8:18you know, a few very wealthy collectors
  260. 8:20buying up really high priced grails and
  261. 8:22pushing the prices of those higher. That
  262. 8:24then sends a signal to the community to
  263. 8:25be like, "Hey, we're back. You know,
  264. 8:27cards are pumping." And so people then
  265. 8:29start to buy slabs, which is sort of the
  266. 8:31next level
  267. 8:32of interest that people spend a lot of
  268. 8:34money on. It's like the second most
  269. 8:35expensive thing people can buy. When you
  270. 8:37see slabs start doing well, then people
  271. 8:38want to get the chase cards. They want
  272. 8:39to grade them. They want to sell those
  273. 8:41slabs, right?
  274. 8:42Then this eventually trickles down to
  275. 8:44sealed because once the big valuable
  276. 8:46cards in the boxes go up in value, then
  277. 8:49the sealed inevitably is going to go up
  278. 8:50in value as well. And then finally, the
  279. 8:52last thing that we tend to see during a
  280. 8:53hot market is we see like mid and low
  281. 8:56tier cards start to pop off on a rolling
  282. 8:59basis. Essentially, the logic of all of
  283. 9:00this is, "Well, X category of card has
  284. 9:03gotten really really expensive lately.
  285. 9:04So, what's like X category of card,
  286. 9:07right?" I think a great example of this
  287. 9:09is like the 25th anniversary set, the
  288. 9:11premium Bandai one, the folder got
  289. 9:14really expensive and then people went
  290. 9:15looking around and were like, "What
  291. 9:17other sets are like that that should be
  292. 9:18expensive?" So, then you see the One
  293. 9:20Piece Film Red triple in price. You
  294. 9:21start to see some of the best
  295. 9:22collections and the Bandai Card Fest
  296. 9:25collections double and triple in price.
  297. 9:27And so, people having missed sort of a
  298. 9:30buyout of one set of card, then look and
  299. 9:32say, "Well, what's my next closest
  300. 9:33option? I want to buy it before that
  301. 9:35goes up in price as well." And so, that,
  302. 9:37I think, is where we are in the market
  303. 9:39right now. We are seeing these pockets
  304. 9:41of buyouts
  305. 9:43based on FOMO and people using the logic
  306. 9:46that if, you know, X card is this
  307. 9:47expensive, then Y card, which is pretty
  308. 9:49similar, should also be that expensive,
  309. 9:50right?
  310. 9:51I do that. That's what a lot of,
  311. 9:53frankly, my analysis is, is trying to
  312. 9:56look at one card and say, "Hey, you
  313. 9:58know, if this is this price and this
  314. 9:59population, and this card is very
  315. 10:01similar in a lower population, shouldn't
  316. 10:03that be at least the same price?" Right?
  317. 10:05So this is how we go through this like
  318. 10:06migration. Once we get through that hot
  319. 10:09market, then we move into like a
  320. 10:11consolidation, right? Which is where
  321. 10:12prices don't really go up, they don't
  322. 10:14really go down. We start to find like
  323. 10:16some level of normalcy. And then
  324. 10:18typically after that, when buying slows,
  325. 10:20if some people need to dump product,
  326. 10:22that's what then kicks off a correction.
  327. 10:24I've said this many, many times before.
  328. 10:25Corrections are an important and natural
  329. 10:27part of any market process. We shouldn't
  330. 10:29fear them. We should embrace them. If a
  331. 10:31market never corrects, it's a bubble and
  332. 10:33it's going to explode, right? So I think
  333. 10:35the fact that we saw a correction after
  334. 10:38the last bull run,
  335. 10:40uh and then we saw essentially another
  336. 10:42bull run happen after that, I think is
  337. 10:43like a good sign for the longevity and
  338. 10:45the stability of it. But that also does
  339. 10:47mean that there are going to be more
  340. 10:48corrections in the future, and we need
  341. 10:50to be prepared for those things. Okay,
  342. 10:51so here are my predictions. So the
  343. 10:53first, we have pre-OP17 hype. So for
  344. 10:55June and July, I think we're going to
  345. 10:57continue to see the rolling buyouts that
  346. 10:59we've seen targeting sealed, uh as well
  347. 11:01as mid-to-low tier cards as we sort of
  348. 11:03work our way through that cycle uh of a
  349. 11:06bull run. I also think, though, that
  350. 11:08we're going to start seeing some profit
  351. 11:10taking uh as people prepare for OP17.
  352. 11:13Like OP17 is the next big thing on the
  353. 11:15horizon. It's going to be expensive.
  354. 11:17People are going to want to dump a lot
  355. 11:18of money in it. People are going to
  356. 11:20prepare to buy out these big chase cards
  357. 11:22and try to get good deals, you know, as
  358. 11:23soon as they launch. So some people are
  359. 11:25going to be taking profits just so they
  360. 11:27can load up to be able to spend on 17.
  361. 11:29Inevitably, that's going to push some
  362. 11:30things down. I don't know exactly what
  363. 11:32it's going to be. I think, you know,
  364. 11:34most likely it will affect slabs,
  365. 11:36promo cards, things that have run up a
  366. 11:38ton
  367. 11:39in recent times. So, then we have the
  368. 11:41OP17 release in August and September.
  369. 11:44So, you know, the big things here is
  370. 11:45obviously OP17 is going to be renewed
  371. 11:48hype. We're going to see continue profit
  372. 11:50taking of some of the things that had
  373. 11:51been previously expensive. And I also
  374. 11:53think that we're going to see some
  375. 11:54people start to exit out of some
  376. 11:56specific products that may be sort of
  377. 11:59like overcome by better cards in OP17.
  378. 12:02Now, not knowing what's going to be in
  379. 12:03OP17, it's really, really hard to
  380. 12:05predict this. But right now, some of the
  381. 12:07most expensive cards in One Piece are
  382. 12:09because there is nothing that sort of
  383. 12:11trumps them. If we get cards that trump
  384. 12:13them in OP17, that could hurt their
  385. 12:14value. And so, if there's a sense that
  386. 12:18those are going to hurt their value,
  387. 12:20people might hedge and take profits just
  388. 12:23as a way to sort of mitigate their risk.
  389. 12:25And so, I do think some of that will be
  390. 12:27happening, but I do think that we'll
  391. 12:29continue to see growth. And I think the
  392. 12:30biggest thing here is that OP17 is going
  393. 12:32to drive more interest to the hobby. I
  394. 12:35think it's going to drive more
  395. 12:36collectors into the hobby. It's going to
  396. 12:38drive more media attention, which is
  397. 12:40going to drive even bigger money into
  398. 12:42the hobby in some sense. Some of those
  399. 12:44people are going to be really, really
  400. 12:45short-lived, but I do think some of that
  401. 12:47is actually going to be sustained
  402. 12:48growth, particularly on the player base
  403. 12:49side. So, for that reason, I do think
  404. 12:51this is going to be a good and a
  405. 12:52positive period for the game, but I do
  406. 12:54also think that it's going to be
  407. 12:55expensive. And I do think there are
  408. 12:56going to be some pockets that are going
  409. 12:57to get hit a little bit as people try to
  410. 13:00be able to buy into OP17. And then we
  411. 13:02have the EBO5 release. And I will be
  412. 13:04honest, I had written this slide one
  413. 13:06way, and then I saw about the EBO5
  414. 13:08release, and I had to completely redo
  415. 13:10the entire presentation because
  416. 13:11[laughter] it threw every assumption
  417. 13:13that I had about what was going to
  418. 13:15happen after OP17 out the window.
  419. 13:17So, what I thought was going to happen
  420. 13:19at first was we were going to see hypes
  421. 13:21for OP17 slowly start to dive down, you
  422. 13:24know, as we got reprints, as we saw how
  423. 13:26big the supply was, prices would fall a
  424. 13:28little bit, you you know, people would
  425. 13:30still, you know, get invested in it as a
  426. 13:32long-term hold, but particularly like
  427. 13:34singles prices, I think would come down
  428. 13:35a lot as we see more and more supply of
  429. 13:38that. Uh and I thought that this had the
  430. 13:40potential to be sort of like the end of
  431. 13:42the bull market, right? The people had
  432. 13:43sort of been saving up their hype for
  433. 13:45this, and then they had the release, and
  434. 13:47then they, you know, lost attention,
  435. 13:49moved on to something else, decided to
  436. 13:51take profits, whatever it may be. EBO5
  437. 13:53really throws a wrench in that
  438. 13:54assumption. And it's a little bit hard
  439. 13:56to tell which direction it's going to go
  440. 13:58because
  441. 13:59let's talk about EBO3, cuz this is the
  442. 14:01natural comp to try to understand what's
  443. 14:03going to happen for EBO5. You know,
  444. 14:04coming off the heels of OP13, EBO3 was
  445. 14:08so hot, you know, we had pre-order
  446. 14:10prices hitting $700, we had Rudy from
  447. 14:13Alpha Investments talking about how like
  448. 14:14this was the best One Piece set ever,
  449. 14:16you know, and that $700 didn't seem all
  450. 14:18that unreasonable given that it had all
  451. 14:20the heroines in it.
  452. 14:22And then ultimately,
  453. 14:24you know, the cards inside are pretty
  454. 14:25expensive,
  455. 14:26um but the boxes themselves are now at
  456. 14:29around all-time lows of less than $300.
  457. 14:32It's still a reasonably expensive set,
  458. 14:33but like
  459. 14:34it's like less than $50 more expensive
  460. 14:36than some of the lower-tier One Piece
  461. 14:38sets.
  462. 14:39And so, I think ultimately like the hype
  463. 14:41ended up being a lot more hype than sort
  464. 14:44of actual demand.
  465. 14:45What I think is going to be interesting
  466. 14:46about EBO5 is, number one, do we have
  467. 14:48the exact same hype again because we
  468. 14:50don't really learn our lesson from the
  469. 14:51first one,
  470. 14:52or do we see that EBO3 had this
  471. 14:55tremendous hype and then fell all the
  472. 14:57way down and people say, "You know what?
  473. 14:59I don't need to participate in that hype
  474. 15:00because I know it's eventually going to
  475. 15:01fall to like, you know, $275, $300, and
  476. 15:04I'll be able to get it much cheaper."
  477. 15:06The real question here though that we
  478. 15:08don't know, and the thing that I think
  479. 15:09is the biggest wild card, is do we get a
  480. 15:12Robin manga? Because I think we're going
  481. 15:14to get a Robin manga. I think the fact
  482. 15:17that they're doing this set is probably
  483. 15:18the reason we haven't gotten a Robin
  484. 15:20manga yet.
  485. 15:21And if we do,
  486. 15:23uh
  487. 15:24I think the hype is going to be real. I
  488. 15:25think that card is going to be very
  489. 15:26expensive and I could potentially see
  490. 15:28this being more valuable
  491. 15:30than EBO3 just because the Uta manga is
  492. 15:33kind of mid. Right? That's all super
  493. 15:34speculative. We don't know what's going
  494. 15:36to happen here. But I think the most
  495. 15:38likely thing is that you have sort of
  496. 15:40like the savvy buyers who are focusing
  497. 15:43on buying the dip on OP17 after the hype
  498. 15:46dies down. But then you also have sort
  499. 15:48of like the people who are newer into
  500. 15:50the hobby being really hyped about EBO5.
  501. 15:53I think the Robin manga could genuinely
  502. 15:54push prices higher, but at the same
  503. 15:57time, I thought that the OP16 Robin SP
  504. 16:00was going to be more popular because
  505. 16:01there's a lot of hype for Robin and then
  506. 16:03it wasn't. So, you know, maybe we end up
  507. 16:05seeing a Robin
  508. 16:07manga being less than we expected. It's
  509. 16:09really, really hard to say. So,
  510. 16:11all of that is to say that I think that
  511. 16:13instead of there being like a clear dip
  512. 16:15across all of the different categories,
  513. 16:17I think this will be more targeted. I
  514. 16:18think that OP17 particularly singles
  515. 16:20will go down uh during this period. I
  516. 16:23also think though that hype will
  517. 16:24continue into EBO5. People will be
  518. 16:26excited about the set, especially if
  519. 16:28there's a banger Robin manga in the set
  520. 16:31that may allow hype to continue to grow.
  521. 16:33Uh and then after that, I think we will
  522. 16:35see some consolidation. I think people
  523. 16:37will say, "Okay,
  524. 16:38>> [laughter]
  525. 16:38>> I've spent a lot of money. We've seen a
  526. 16:40lot of amazing things. The next few sets
  527. 16:42are probably just going to be pretty
  528. 16:44regular. Now may be a time to take some
  529. 16:45profits, take a little bit of a break."
  530. 16:48I don't think there's going to be a
  531. 16:48crash, right? Cuz I think the people who
  532. 16:50are coming in to the hobby for the first
  533. 16:52time are going to be buying some of
  534. 16:53these things. And I also think you're
  535. 16:55going to see people who are prepared to
  536. 16:57buy the dip expecting that there will be
  537. 16:58a dip. And that's why I think it's going
  538. 17:00to be consolidation rather than a
  539. 17:01correction during this period. And then
  540. 17:03we have what's probably the biggest wild
  541. 17:05card and that is the holiday season
  542. 17:07{slash} OP18. Now, as I've said
  543. 17:10previously, the holiday season has
  544. 17:11always been really, really good for One
  545. 17:13Piece. We've seen like big booms in
  546. 17:15prices. Now, that typically has been the
  547. 17:17result of having like really popular
  548. 17:19sets released before the holidays. You
  549. 17:21know, we had the anniversary sets. We
  550. 17:23also had PRB01 that was released really
  551. 17:25close to the holiday. I know that was my
  552. 17:27number one gift request on my Christmas
  553. 17:29list.
  554. 17:31And so, like it's really hard to know
  555. 17:32because on the one hand, you know, gift
  556. 17:35giving could be a boon to the hobby. But
  557. 17:37also, people tend to have less free cash
  558. 17:39during the holidays because they have to
  559. 17:40spend it on travel plans, buying people
  560. 17:42gifts, all that sort of stuff. So, that
  561. 17:44could be a reason why prices might go
  562. 17:46down. I think the biggest thing though
  563. 17:48here is that after we have the boom of
  564. 17:51OP-17 and EBO-5, I think people will be
  565. 17:54really confident that this is the end
  566. 17:56for a period of time, right? And so,
  567. 17:59there will no longer be a great argument
  568. 18:01unless OP-18 ends up being some crazy
  569. 18:04set that everyone is absolutely stoked
  570. 18:07for. Like, this will be like the clear
  571. 18:09consensus that it's time to take a break
  572. 18:11and it's time to look and see where the
  573. 18:13prices have fallen to, uh take some
  574. 18:15profits, cool down. And this is where I
  575. 18:17expect we'll start to see a correction
  576. 18:19at some point. Is it going to be during
  577. 18:21the holiday season? Is it going to be
  578. 18:23after the holiday season? I don't really
  579. 18:25know, but I think that like the
  580. 18:27excitement of OP-17 and EBO-5 will be a
  581. 18:31buoy for all prices in the market for a
  582. 18:33while, but I think once that ends, I
  583. 18:35think we could see prices start to
  584. 18:36correct pretty rapidly. Now,
  585. 18:39there's a lot of reasons why this might
  586. 18:41not be the case, right? We might see a
  587. 18:43correction earlier than this, right?
  588. 18:45Because people don't want to be the last
  589. 18:46person holding the bag. So, if the
  590. 18:48general conventional wisdom is that
  591. 18:50after EBO-5, prices are going to fall,
  592. 18:52when do you want to sell your card?
  593. 18:54Well, you probably don't want to wait
  594. 18:55until EBO-5 is done. You probably want
  595. 18:57to sell before then so that you,
  596. 19:00uh you know, don't try to sell at the
  597. 19:01same time everybody else is selling,
  598. 19:03right? And so, that can have the effect
  599. 19:05of sort of pushing these things to the
  600. 19:07left. Um and so, it's really hard to
  601. 19:09tell where or like this might start. Um
  602. 19:12I also do want to add two here that
  603. 19:13like, you know, this chopper is probably
  604. 19:16going to do really well early in the
  605. 19:18holiday season because the holiday
  606. 19:19season's going to remind it of the Santa
  607. 19:21Chopper. I'm sure someone's going to try
  608. 19:23to pump it and test sort of what its
  609. 19:24upward potential is. Like, don't play
  610. 19:26into that, right? The time to buy this
  611. 19:28chopper is like after the holidays when
  612. 19:30people think about it less rather than
  613. 19:32before the holidays. I would say the
  614. 19:33same thing with the gift collection that
  615. 19:35has a holiday association as well. I
  616. 19:37expect someone will try to pump that and
  617. 19:39that that will be more popular during
  618. 19:40the holiday season. Again, I suggest
  619. 19:42that you don't buy into that. You know,
  620. 19:44I think too that like in anticipation of
  621. 19:46people taking profits and corrections,
  622. 19:49if you have one of these cards that is
  623. 19:51pumped up like a ton of money, looking
  624. 19:53at you Treasure Rare Luffy particularly
  625. 19:55in a PSA 10, like trying to get out of
  626. 19:57that before these inevitable corrections
  627. 20:01come, I think it's probably a pretty
  628. 20:02good idea. I think that's pretty clearly
  629. 20:04overhyped. And then the reason that I
  630. 20:06have this Luffy Gear 5 in the slide is
  631. 20:08because I think that like there are
  632. 20:10going to be some questions posed about
  633. 20:12the existing slate of grails as we get
  634. 20:15new cards. The anniversary sets in
  635. 20:16particular I think are the biggest
  636. 20:18threats to these grails because
  637. 20:20based on what we've seen, they keep
  638. 20:21trying to up the ante. And if they
  639. 20:23successfully up the ante, that could
  640. 20:26just make this card more expensive than
  641. 20:28whatever we've previously had or it
  642. 20:30could lower the prices of the cards that
  643. 20:32we've previously had as someone says,
  644. 20:34"Well, I don't need this gold Roger. I
  645. 20:37want to take that money and I want to
  646. 20:39put it towards this
  647. 20:40platinum Bluefy." Whatever, right? So, I
  648. 20:44think there's some risk there and I
  649. 20:46think depending on what we see from the
  650. 20:47cards, I could see these correcting, you
  651. 20:49know, a little bit earlier as people
  652. 20:51take profits to try to get some of these
  653. 20:53new grails if they prefer them to the
  654. 20:55older ones. So, here's the big takeaway
  655. 20:57from all of this, right? I haven't even
  656. 20:59talked about Pokémon yet, but
  657. 21:01there [laughter] are going to be a crazy
  658. 21:02amount of demands on our money
  659. 21:05uh over the next 6 months. And frankly,
  660. 21:07something has to give, right? You know,
  661. 21:09we've already had a lot of hype, prices
  662. 21:10have gone up a ton. I don't know about
  663. 21:12you, but I've spent a lot more on cards
  664. 21:13than I normally do. Then we have EBO5,
  665. 21:16which is either going to be moderately
  666. 21:18expensive or extremely expensive, right?
  667. 21:20Then a month later we have OP 18, which
  668. 21:22like if you're a player of the game,
  669. 21:24even if it's not a huge set, there's
  670. 21:26probably going to be some power creep
  671. 21:27and you're probably still going to need
  672. 21:28it, right? And then all of this is
  673. 21:30happening at the same time that we have
  674. 21:31the Pokémon 30th anniversary set, and
  675. 21:34Pokémon is like the hottest it's ever
  676. 21:36been. You know, for those of us who are
  677. 21:38involved in many things, like that is a
  678. 21:39tremendous amount of demand on our
  679. 21:41money. And then also, yeah, the holiday
  680. 21:43season and all the associated costs with
  681. 21:45that. So like something has to give
  682. 21:47here. Either more money needs to come
  683. 21:49into the hobby, which it could, hype
  684. 21:50brings more money in. We've seen a lot
  685. 21:52of institutional money come in and that
  686. 21:54could continue to happen.
  687. 21:56Or,
  688. 21:57you know, people are going to need to
  689. 21:58take profits on things to free up
  690. 22:00capital to buy other things, which is
  691. 22:02why I think that we probably will see a
  692. 22:04rolling set of sort of like increases in
  693. 22:06prices as we see spikes and then sort of
  694. 22:08rapid decreases as people are trying to
  695. 22:10take profits. I do think that not being
  696. 22:12able to grade PSA value is probably
  697. 22:14going to free up some cash for folks to
  698. 22:17be able to spend on some of these
  699. 22:18things. So, I think that is one reason
  700. 22:20to think that maybe prices don't fall as
  701. 22:22quickly as they might have otherwise,
  702. 22:23but I do think that this is a concern
  703. 22:25that sort of needs an answer one way or
  704. 22:27the other. And I think it's going to
  705. 22:28have a significant impact on where the
  706. 22:29market goes over the next 6 months. So,
  707. 22:31just to quickly review, in case we do
  708. 22:33end up hitting a cold market at the end
  709. 22:35of the winter, uh, the actual cold meets
  710. 22:37the cold of the market, um, you know, I
  711. 22:40think the biggest losers are going to be
  712. 22:41slabs, right? You know, the things that
  713. 22:43have been bid up by a lot of sort of
  714. 22:44interest of people coming in from other
  715. 22:46things are going to be the first thing
  716. 22:47to lose value as people try to feel free
  717. 22:49up cash. Grails also tend not to do well
  718. 22:51in cold markets because they tend to
  719. 22:53have been bid up a lot during really,
  720. 22:55really hot markets. So, you naturally
  721. 22:57see a pretty big correction there. You
  722. 22:58know, mid to low tier cards, as we've
  723. 23:00gotten into those like second, third,
  724. 23:02fourth, fifth, sixth, fiftieth tier of
  725. 23:05card that people have started to buy up
  726. 23:07thinking, "Well, this is kind of like
  727. 23:08this version of this card." Right? Those
  728. 23:10are the ones that tend to lose a lot of
  729. 23:12value because they weren't necessarily
  730. 23:14carried by a lot of demand, right? They
  731. 23:16were carried by like speculator logic.
  732. 23:17And so, those lose a lot of value both
  733. 23:19in a stable market, but then really tend
  734. 23:21to lose a ton of value in the cold
  735. 23:22markets. I think the biggest winners in
  736. 23:26a cold market, not that there's any real
  737. 23:27winner, you know, sealed tends to be the
  738. 23:29most stable. It tends to lose the least
  739. 23:31prices. In some cases, it may even still
  740. 23:33go up depending on the product. You
  741. 23:35know, and then chase cards as well. And
  742. 23:36part of the reason is because chase
  743. 23:37cards I think lose value a little bit
  744. 23:39faster during a stable market, whereas
  745. 23:41some other things are still growing. You
  746. 23:43know, the logic here is that chase cards
  747. 23:45have a large enough population
  748. 23:48that there's not like continued demand
  749. 23:51to push the prices higher during a
  750. 23:53stable market.
  751. 23:54But, they also have a small enough
  752. 23:55population that they likely won't
  753. 23:58continue to fall because a lot of these
  754. 23:59things are like permanently in people's
  755. 24:01collections, and they tend to be less
  756. 24:03volatile than some of the either higher
  757. 24:05price cards or the lower price cards.
  758. 24:07So, I guess the real question is, what
  759. 24:09are my takeaways from this and like how
  760. 24:11am I going to prepare moving forward
  761. 24:14based on having gone through this
  762. 24:15thought experiment? Well, the first
  763. 24:16thing is I need to identify priorities
  764. 24:18and risk tolerances. Like I'm not going
  765. 24:20to be able to
  766. 24:22afford everything that's going to come
  767. 24:23out.
  768. 24:24And I need to be looking at my
  769. 24:25collection strategically and saying, you
  770. 24:27know,
  771. 24:28does it make sense for me to keep this
  772. 24:30card? Do I love it at the price that it
  773. 24:32currently is now? If I think that it has
  774. 24:35upward potential, maybe I want to keep
  775. 24:37it anyway like while a market is hot,
  776. 24:39but if I could better utilize that
  777. 24:42resources for something that I do
  778. 24:43actually love with all of this cool
  779. 24:45stuff coming out, maybe it is time to
  780. 24:46sell that, right? And so, that's the
  781. 24:48first thing that I need to do is take
  782. 24:50stock, figure out what my priorities
  783. 24:52are, and you know, what I'm willing to
  784. 24:54risk. Part of that means also taking
  785. 24:57profits where profits are useful to
  786. 24:59take, right? Whether it's to buy
  787. 25:00something else or to just take advantage
  788. 25:02of the big boom that we've all had over
  789. 25:04the last year. I think if you've been in
  790. 25:06this for a long time, even if you love
  791. 25:08it, like it's still really healthy to
  792. 25:10take some of those profits because, you
  793. 25:12know, these things could change, right?
  794. 25:14And I know that I'm paying more for
  795. 25:16cards now than I would have paid a year
  796. 25:18ago.
  797. 25:19And so ultimately taking some of those
  798. 25:20profits on things that have gone up is a
  799. 25:22hedge against what I'm spending now on
  800. 25:25other cards. You know, I would also say
  801. 25:26to you, I'm going to start saving money
  802. 25:27for OP17. I think it's going to be
  803. 25:29pretty big
  804. 25:31and it's going to be expensive. I also
  805. 25:32think that there will be a dip when OP17
  806. 25:34comes out, like, you know, whether it's
  807. 25:362 months, 3 months, however long in the
  808. 25:37future. Like, I want to be prepared to
  809. 25:39buy that dip if I wasn't able to get
  810. 25:41very much at a reasonable price when it
  811. 25:43first came out. I definitely don't want
  812. 25:45to overpay for EBO5. You know, again, it
  813. 25:48will be really interesting to see what's
  814. 25:49in that set
  815. 25:51and how much people are willing to pay
  816. 25:53for it. I'm worried about a Robin manga.
  817. 25:56I'm also worried if they do like all the
  818. 25:57Heroine Wanted posters or something,
  819. 25:59like that could also be devastating
  820. 26:01to people's budgets.
  821. 26:03But, I'm going to sit tight and I'm not
  822. 26:04going to overpay for those with the hype
  823. 26:07and I'm setting that expectation now.
  824. 26:09And then finally, I am expecting there
  825. 26:11to be a a correction. I don't know when
  826. 26:12it's going to be. I think if we're
  827. 26:14getting more than 6 months from now and
  828. 26:15it hasn't happened yet, that would be a
  829. 26:16little bit of a surprise to me, but, you
  830. 26:18know, anywhere in that time range is
  831. 26:20really, really difficult to say, but I
  832. 26:22want to be mentally prepared for when it
  833. 26:23comes. And again, this comes down to
  834. 26:25risk tolerance, right? Like, if I'm
  835. 26:26sitting on something that is worth way
  836. 26:28more now than it's worth to me, like,
  837. 26:31knowing that a correction could come in
  838. 26:32the future, like, I don't just want to
  839. 26:34wait and wait and wait and then miss my
  840. 26:35opportunity to cash in on that. So, I
  841. 26:37think this is what everybody needs to be
  842. 26:38thinking about if they want to think
  843. 26:39strategically about how to achieve their
  844. 26:42individual collecting goals. So, that's
  845. 26:43all I have for today. I hope you found
  846. 26:45this interesting. As I said in the
  847. 26:46beginning, I don't expect my predictions
  848. 26:47here to be right, right? I just intend
  849. 26:49this to be a thought exercise to help us
  850. 26:51think what might happen in the future
  851. 26:52and how we would react to it. If you
  852. 26:54disagree with my takes, if you have some
  853. 26:56insights about what you think is going
  854. 26:57to happen, please hit me up in the
  855. 26:58comments. I'd be really interested in
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