Mark Zuckerberg: We Apply The Same Standard To All Campaigns We Offer Support To | CNBC — Transcript

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1. 0:00I wanted to get something in the record
2. 0:01quickly before I moved to some questions
3. 0:03you had suggested in your testimony over
4. 0:05the last couple days of Facebook
5. 0:06notified the Trump and Clinton campaigns
6. 0:09of Russian attempts to hack in to those
7. 0:12campaigns but representatives of both
8. 0:15campaigns in the last 24 hours have said
9. 0:17that didn't happen so we're gonna need
10. 0:20to follow up on that and find out what
11. 0:21the real story is if you want me to know
12. 0:24I'd like I'd like to move on you can
13. 0:25provide a response to that in writing if
14. 0:29you would let me ask you is it true that
15. 0:31Facebook offered to provide what I guess
16. 0:35you refer to as dedicated campaign
17. 0:37embeds to both of the presidential
18. 0:40campaigns congressman I can quickly
19. 0:44respond to the first point to just say
20. 0:46yes or no where were their embeds
21. 0:48I need to get to that because I have
22. 0:50time where their embeds in the two
23. 0:51campaigns were offers of embeds
24. 0:53congressman yes or no we where there
25. 0:57were their embeds offered to the Trump
26. 1:00campaign in the Clinton campaign we
27. 1:02offer sales support to every K okay so
28. 1:04sales support I'm gonna refer to that as
29. 1:06embeds and I gather that mr. Trump's
30. 1:08campaign ultimately accepted that offer
31. 1:11is that correct yes the Trump campaign
32. 1:16had sales support and okay so they had
33. 1:19nodes I'm gonna I'm gonna refer to those
34. 1:21as embeds what I'd like you to do if you
35. 1:23could we're not gonna have time for you
36. 1:24to do this now but if you could provide
37. 1:27to the committee both the initial offer
38. 1:30terms and then any subsequent offer
39. 1:32terms that were presented to each
40. 1:35candidate in terms of what the embed
41. 1:37services would be that would be very
42. 1:40helpful
43. 1:41do you know how many ads were approved
44. 1:43for display on Facebook for each of the
45. 1:46presidential candidates by Facebook
46. 1:49congressman I do not sitting here off
47. 1:51the top of my head hey let me tell you
48. 1:52what they were because I do president
49. 1:55Trump's campaign had an estimated 5.9
50. 1:57million ads approved and Secretary
51. 2:00Clinton 66,000 ad so that's a delta of
52. 2:04about 90 times as much on the Trump
53. 2:07campaign which raises some questions
54. 2:10about whether the ad approval processes
55. 2:12were
56. 2:13maybe not processed correctly or
57. 2:17inappropriately bypassed in the final
58. 2:19months and weeks of the election by the
59. 2:21Trump campaign and what I'm worried
60. 2:22about is that the embeds may have helped
61. 2:24to facilitate that can you say with
62. 2:27absolute certainty that Facebook or any
63. 2:30of the Facebook employees working as
64. 2:32campaign embeds did not grant any
65. 2:34special approval rights to the Trump
66. 2:37campaign to allow them to upload a very
67. 2:40large number of Facebook ads in that
68. 2:43final stretch congressman we apply the
69. 2:45same standard to all campaigns can you
70. 2:48say that there were not special approval
71. 2:51rights granted is that what you're
72. 2:53saying we're not special approval rights
73. 2:55granted by any of the embeds or support
74. 2:58folks as you call them in that Trump
75. 3:00campaign congressman now what I'm yes
76. 3:03what I'm saying is that if you're saying
77. 3:05yes if you're saying yes then I'll take
78. 3:07you at your word
79. 3:08the reason this is important and the
80. 3:11reason we need to get to the bottom of
81. 3:12it is because it could be a serious
82. 3:15problem if these kinds of services were
83. 3:17provided beyond what is offered in the
84. 3:19normal course because that could result
85. 3:21in violation of campaign finance law
86. 3:24because it would be construed as an
87. 3:26in-kind contribution corporate
88. 3:28contribution from Facebook beyond what
89. 3:30the sort of AD by opportunity would
90. 3:33typically provide the reason I'm asking
91. 3:36these questions is because I'm worried
92. 3:38that that embed program has the
93. 3:41potential to become a tool for Facebook
94. 3:44to solicit solicit favor from
95. 3:46policymakers and that then creates the
96. 3:48potential for real conflict of interest
97. 3:52and I think a lot of Americans are
98. 3:54waking up to the fact that Facebook is
99. 3:55becoming sort of a self-regulated
100. 3:58superstructure for political discourse
101. 4:00and the question is are we the people
102. 4:03going to regulate our political dialogue
103. 4:04or you Mark Zuckerberg and end up
104. 4:07regulating the political dissidents so
105. 4:10we need to be free of that undue
106. 4:12influence I thank you for being here
107. 4:14elements not yell battered chair
108. 4:16recognizes the gentleman from Texas mr.
109. 4:17Olson for sermons
110. 4:19do you mind for the record if I just
111. 4:21answer for the first point four that's
112. 4:24fine take tens ahead when i was
113. 4:26referring to the campaigns
114. 4:27I meant the DNC and RNC so I may have
115. 4:29misspoken and maybe technically that's
116. 4:31called the committee's but those were
117. 4:34the folks I was referring to hey there
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