Mark Zuckerberg: Users Have Control Over Their Data | CNBC — Transcript

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1. 0:00For all of the benefits that Facebook
2. 0:02has provided in building communities and
3. 0:04connecting families,
4. 0:06uh
5. 0:06I think a devil's bargain has been
6. 0:08struck. And uh in the end, Americans do
7. 0:12not like to be manipulated. They do not
8. 0:15like to be spied on. We don't like it
9. 0:17when someone is outside of our home
10. 0:19watching. We don't like it when someone
11. 0:22is following us around the neighborhood
12. 0:24or even worse, following our kids or
13. 0:27stalking our children.
14. 0:29Um
15. 0:30Facebook now has evolved to a place
16. 0:33where you are tracking everyone.
17. 0:36Uh you are collecting data on just about
18. 0:40everybody.
19. 0:41Um
20. 0:42Yes, we understand the Facebook users
21. 0:45that that proactively sign in are in
22. 0:47part of that that platform, but you're
23. 0:50following Facebook users even after they
24. 0:52log off of that platform and
25. 0:55application.
26. 0:56And you are collecting personal
27. 0:59information on people who do not even
28. 1:02have Facebook accounts. Isn't that
29. 1:04right?
30. 1:05Congresswoman, I believe that we
31. 1:08Uh Congresswoman, I I'm not sure that I
32. 1:10don't think that that's what we're
33. 1:11tracking.
34. 1:12No, you're collecting uh you have
35. 1:14already acknowledged that you are doing
36. 1:16that for security purposes and
37. 1:18commercial purposes. So, you are you are
38. 1:20collecting data outside of Facebook when
39. 1:22someone goes to a website and it has the
40. 1:24Facebook uh like or share, that data is
41. 1:28being collected by Facebook, correct?
42. 1:31Uh Congresswoman
43. 1:32Yes or no.
44. 1:32That's right that we that we understand
45. 1:35in order to
46. 1:37uh show which of your friends
47. 1:38for people that don't even have
48. 1:39Facebook, I don't think that the average
49. 1:41American really understands that today,
50. 1:44something that fundamental. And that
51. 1:46you're trackling tracking everyone's
52. 1:48online activities,
53. 1:50uh their searches. You can track what
54. 1:53people buy, correct?
55. 1:56Uh Congresswoman uh Congresswoman
56. 1:58You're collecting that data, what people
57. 2:00purchase online.
58. 2:01I I actually
59. 2:03if they share it with us. But,
60. 2:04Congresswoman, we don't allow
61. 2:05has a share button, so it's it's it's
62. 2:07gathering Facebook has the application.
63. 2:09In fact, you patented applications to do
64. 2:12just that, isn't that correct? To
65. 2:14collect that data.
66. 2:14Congresswoman, I don't think any of
67. 2:15those buttons share transaction data.
68. 2:17But, broadly, I I
69. 2:19disagree with the gentlewoman.
70. 2:20want you're collecting medical data,
71. 2:22correct? On on people that that are on
72. 2:25the internet, whether they're Facebook
73. 2:27users or not, right?
74. 2:29Congresswoman, yes, we collect some data
75. 2:31for some
76. 2:31collecting uh
77. 2:33you watch where we go.
78. 2:35Senator Durbin had a had a funny
79. 2:36question yesterday about where you're
80. 2:38staying and you didn't want to share
81. 2:40that, but you Facebook also gathers that
82. 2:42data about where we travel, isn't that
83. 2:44correct?
84. 2:45Congresswoman, everyone has control over
85. 2:47how that works.
86. 2:48to get to that, but yes, you are. Would
87. 2:50you just acknowledge it? Yes, Facebook
88. 2:52is That's the business you're in,
89. 2:54gathering data and aggregating that
90. 2:56data.
91. 2:56Congresswoman, I disagree with that
92. 2:58characterization.
93. 2:59You are not Are you saying you do not
94. 3:01gather data on on where people travel
95. 3:04based upon their internet and the the
96. 3:07ways they sign in and things like that?
97. 3:10Congresswoman, the primary way that
98. 3:11Facebook works is that people choose to
99. 3:13share data, and they share private
100. 3:15information with you.
101. 3:16way that Facebook uh gathers data is you
102. 3:19buy data from data brokers outside of
103. 3:22the platform, correct?
104. 3:24Congresswoman, we just announced 2 weeks
105. 3:26ago uh that we were going to stop
106. 3:28interacting with data brokers, and even
107. 3:31though that's an industry norm to make
108. 3:33it so that the advertising can be more
109. 3:34relevant.
110. 3:35in the end I think what
111. 3:36See, it's it's practically impossible
112. 3:39these days to remain untracked in
113. 3:41America. For all the benefits Facebook
114. 3:43has brought in the in the internet. And
115. 3:45that's not part of the bargain. Uh and
116. 3:47current laws have not evolved, and the
117. 3:48Congress has not adopted
118. 3:51um
119. 3:52laws to a to address digital
120. 3:54surveillance and Congress should act and
121. 3:56I do not believe that the controls, the
122. 3:59opaque agreement, uh consent agreements,
123. 4:02the settings are an adequate substitute
124. 4:04for fundamental privacy protections for
125. 4:06consumers. Now some
126. 4:08General Lee's time.
127. 4:10Thank you. I'll yield back my time.
128. 4:11General Lee's time.
129. 4:12Let that stand and I'd like to ask
130. 4:14unanimous consent that I put my
131. 4:16constituents questions in the record.
132. 4:18Without objection.
133. 4:19Thank you.
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