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  1. 0:05Hello everyone and welcome to the Source
  2. 0:06Forge podcast. I'm your host Bo
  3. 0:08Hamilton. Now let's talk about printing.
  4. 0:11So most people don't think much about
  5. 0:13printing until maybe their printer stops
  6. 0:15working or the printing process stops
  7. 0:17working. There are the hardware issues
  8. 0:20of course like print nozzles drying up.
  9. 0:22You have paper jams. You have those
  10. 0:24faulty ink cartridges. Uh those are very
  11. 0:26annoying of course. And then there are
  12. 0:28the other issues uh with software and
  13. 0:30workplace dynamics. Maybe a a document
  14. 0:33gets stuck in the queue. Uh there's a
  15. 0:35internal confidential file that's left
  16. 0:37sitting in a a shared tray or it just
  17. 0:40ends up dealing with constant support
  18. 0:42issues from just a bunch of different
  19. 0:43printers spread across different
  20. 0:44locations. You know, printers have had a
  21. 0:47bad reputation for a long time. Um I
  22. 0:50think a lot of us think of the the
  23. 0:51memorable scenes in office space. I
  24. 0:54think that's a classic example. Um, and
  25. 0:56for a lot of people, you know, that that
  26. 0:57frustration just feels really relatable.
  27. 1:00Uh, but for organizations managing
  28. 1:02dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of
  29. 1:04devices across offices, remote sites,
  30. 1:07uh, hybrid teams, printing is is far
  31. 1:09from a minor issue. It can create
  32. 1:11really, you know, severe security
  33. 1:13headaches. It can increase costs and
  34. 1:16just become one of those ongoing
  35. 1:17frustrations that just eats away at an
  36. 1:19IT team. Uh today's guest is Mark
  37. 1:22Asbridge, head of product enablement at
  38. 1:24MyQ, a company focused on bringing more
  39. 1:27control to that environment by
  40. 1:28connecting print, scan, and document
  41. 1:30routing into smarter, more secure
  42. 1:33workflows. Um, so we've got a lot to get
  43. 1:35into into this in this space. We're
  44. 1:37going to dig into what it really takes
  45. 1:38to manage a distributed print
  46. 1:40environment, how my Q works with that
  47. 1:42infrastructure companies already have in
  48. 1:44place, and then why something as simple
  49. 1:46as a printer tray can turn into a real
  50. 1:48security concern. So again, we have a
  51. 1:51lot to get into. Um, so let's just get
  52. 1:53right into it. Mark, welcome to the
  53. 1:55podcast. Glad you could join us.
  54. 1:57>> Thanks for having me. And I think it's a
  55. 1:59great intro uh of all the pain points,
  56. 2:01all the problems uh that people face
  57. 2:03within within the printing world. And to
  58. 2:05be honest, I I always have a bit of a
  59. 2:06laugh and joke and explain that I've
  60. 2:08never met an IT person that likes print.
  61. 2:10Um, and it's always those pain points
  62. 2:12that people always come across as as
  63. 2:14you've opened up.
  64. 2:15>> Yeah. Yeah. There's there's definitely a
  65. 2:17lovehate relationship with printers out
  66. 2:19there. U there's there's a plenty of
  67. 2:20printer memes poking fun at how often
  68. 2:23they don't work and and then you know of
  69. 2:25course office space is just comes to
  70. 2:26mind. It's a legendary scene where they
  71. 2:28take out their frustration on their
  72. 2:30printer. Um so let's let's start there.
  73. 2:32You know what what was my Q originally
  74. 2:35set out to solve with their u management
  75. 2:38solution software? like was the
  76. 2:40company's mission from the beginning to
  77. 2:42address the kind of pain points that you
  78. 2:44know give give rise to all these printer
  79. 2:46lore memes in the first place?
  80. 2:49>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean that that was
  81. 2:50the thing that every software solution
  82. 2:52starts with a painoint. Every everybody
  83. 2:54develops something from a from a problem
  84. 2:56that they're seeing in the industry and
  85. 2:58that's what our founders had. they they
  86. 3:00worked for a reseller in in Czech in
  87. 3:02Czecha and they were seeing the problems
  88. 3:05that people were facing all the time
  89. 3:06with the print management solutions that
  90. 3:08were out at the time. Not only were they
  91. 3:11really expensive, they were overly
  92. 3:12complicated, they were time consuming to
  93. 3:15implement and that was the kind of the
  94. 3:18the ideas um both of the the families
  95. 3:21all worked within the print industry and
  96. 3:23they kind of started thinking there must
  97. 3:25be a better way of doing this and that's
  98. 3:27kind of what what started our founders
  99. 3:29of my working together to say right how
  100. 3:32can we make this better um and it was by
  101. 3:35their collaboration and their working
  102. 3:37within the print industry that they kind
  103. 3:39of started developing the very early
  104. 3:41phases of of my cube and I always like
  105. 3:44to explain that back in 2007 when when
  106. 3:47our first uh application was was
  107. 3:50developed devices and printers those
  108. 3:52days didn't have like the touchscreen
  109. 3:54terminals that we're used to seeing
  110. 3:56today it was a a touch pad with a couple
  111. 4:00of numbers and that was it. So we
  112. 4:02developed an external reader that went
  113. 4:04onto those devices. But it's really
  114. 4:06interesting that the philosophy what
  115. 4:08they developed the very first phase
  116. 4:10which was easy to implement, cost
  117. 4:12effective and secure that philosophy is
  118. 4:16in gone through the whole entire company
  119. 4:18to where we are today.
  120. 4:19>> Gotcha. Those are Yeah, those are some
  121. 4:21good uh important pillars to to focus on
  122. 4:24for sure. And um I know that you know
  123. 4:26obviously we have our uh consumers the
  124. 4:30uh you know the average end user has
  125. 4:32their their personal experience working
  126. 4:33with printers but for businesses and and
  127. 4:35IT teams I think the problems are and
  128. 4:38headaches are just magnifi magnified
  129. 4:40like tenfold um as you have to imagine
  130. 4:43trying to manage printing across you
  131. 4:44know the the modern hybrid distributed
  132. 4:47workplaces um among many other things.
  133. 4:49Uh I'm curious uh for someone who hasn't
  134. 4:52used a print management platform before,
  135. 4:55how do you usually explain what what my
  136. 4:57Q does in in in simple terms that they
  137. 4:59could understand?
  138. 5:00>> No, absolutely. And and there's a couple
  139. 5:02of sort of pillars to look at it when
  140. 5:04you start talking about print management
  141. 5:06because the first thing that people tend
  142. 5:08to talk about is the the whole secure
  143. 5:10printing part. That's that's really the
  144. 5:12foundations of where everything has
  145. 5:14started from. Um, and it's very simply
  146. 5:16that when you're printing, you're not
  147. 5:19just printing directly to a to a single
  148. 5:21device. You're printing to a poll of
  149. 5:23devices. And when you log into that
  150. 5:25machine and click print, that's when
  151. 5:27that print job is then released to that
  152. 5:29machine. But that's the real basic kind
  153. 5:32of functionalities and and and a lot of
  154. 5:34people obviously the primary reasons for
  155. 5:36security for for them having this secure
  156. 5:39print environment. They can walk up to
  157. 5:41any device and they can get their print
  158. 5:42jobs perfect. But to be honest, today's
  159. 5:46sort of modern world when everybody's
  160. 5:47starting to digitize, everybody wants to
  161. 5:49scan to different cloud areas. People
  162. 5:51want to connect and natively print from
  163. 5:55cloud. That's kind of where the the
  164. 5:58applications that MQ develops takes it
  165. 5:59to another level. It's not just about
  166. 6:02printing and just a secure print. It's
  167. 6:05about how you're actually interacting
  168. 6:07with today's in modern scanning
  169. 6:09processes. So not only can we do this
  170. 6:12secure print, this preview, we can also
  171. 6:14then start digitizing scanning documents
  172. 6:17into a cloud environment. So for me, I
  173. 6:19always sort of describe it as what's
  174. 6:21print management. Well, print management
  175. 6:23is is managing your entire print fleet
  176. 6:26from your security printing to your
  177. 6:28scanning to your day-to-day maintenance
  178. 6:30of those devices and then kind of
  179. 6:32everything connected to it.
  180. 6:34>> Gotcha. Okay, that's a good that's a
  181. 6:35good explanation and it um you know it
  182. 6:37helps um you know it it basically it
  183. 6:40makes me think of the software you're
  184. 6:42you're trying to uh tackle all the helps
  185. 6:45solve all the problems that you know are
  186. 6:48um one could imagine and one could also
  187. 6:51not imagine like all the different use
  188. 6:53cases there's so many different use
  189. 6:54cases um and dynamics that you have to
  190. 6:57navigate and so having a solution that
  191. 6:59can is is built in and kind of has a
  192. 7:01proactive approach I guess to to handle
  193. 7:04them so that you avoid uh the lot of the
  194. 7:06problems in the future. Um I think is is
  195. 7:08a smart choice. Um you know, I feel like
  196. 7:10a lot of companies don't really think
  197. 7:12about print management until uh maybe
  198. 7:14the problems start piling up in the
  199. 7:16first place. They might be just getting
  200. 7:17by with their current sort of uh
  201. 7:20patchwork approach that that you know
  202. 7:22might Yeah, it might work well enough
  203. 7:24for a while, but you know, as things
  204. 7:25start to get more complex, you know,
  205. 7:27they they they just it breaks down.
  206. 7:30>> Yeah, that's the thing. You're
  207. 7:31absolutely right. when when you've only
  208. 7:32got one device, it's it's nice and
  209. 7:33simple. Um, and you've only got a
  210. 7:35handful of users, but it's when you
  211. 7:36start multiplying those problems and
  212. 7:38that that's really where the issues sort
  213. 7:40of start coming from. And and equally,
  214. 7:42IT people these days, they they don't
  215. 7:44have the time. They're trying to manage
  216. 7:46so many services um within within
  217. 7:48business. It is such a critical part of
  218. 7:50every business and we we're we're making
  219. 7:54their life so much simpler. So every
  220. 7:56development, every kind of new feature
  221. 7:57or functionalities, we've always got
  222. 7:59those IT people in mind to say, how can
  223. 8:02we save them time? How can we make it
  224. 8:04easier for them? As well as we're also
  225. 8:06thinking of our users because obviously
  226. 8:07the users are the ones dayto-day they're
  227. 8:09using applications. They're going up to
  228. 8:11the device and really we want it to be
  229. 8:13as streamlined for them as possible, but
  230. 8:15equally sometimes when you talk about
  231. 8:17streamlining services and processes, it
  232. 8:20creates an administrative nightmare
  233. 8:22because it then have to manage it. But
  234. 8:24we try and always balance both of those
  235. 8:25processes out by having the
  236. 8:27integrations, having the processes that
  237. 8:29people want, but then equally making
  238. 8:31sure that it is well supported in in the
  239. 8:34modern technology that they're expecting
  240. 8:35to see.
  241. 8:36>> Yeah. Maybe you could talk about some of
  242. 8:38those those problems that you've you've
  243. 8:40you know hear about and experience um
  244. 8:42from you know not using a centralized uh
  245. 8:46print management platform like what what
  246. 8:47typically do you hear um are some of the
  247. 8:49pain points? Yeah, I mean my my my
  248. 8:52favorite one to start off with and
  249. 8:53everybody sees it in in every office
  250. 8:54that you go to that doesn't have a
  251. 8:56pre-management solution. You just see
  252. 8:57paper everywhere. It's just an
  253. 8:59unbelievable amount of paper everywhere.
  254. 9:01And I mean my previous years I've been
  255. 9:04hardware engineer and I I remember going
  256. 9:05out to customer sites before they put
  257. 9:07print management systems in and you
  258. 9:09could pick up some really confidential
  259. 9:11data. Um, and and you see that all the
  260. 9:14time in every places and and I've had
  261. 9:15people print people's paychecks on the
  262. 9:17wrong printer in the wrong office. And
  263. 9:20you have to start looking at that and
  264. 9:22understanding that we just can't do that
  265. 9:23in today's today's world. So we start
  266. 9:26seeing the real pain points as just
  267. 9:28security of printing. Step one. Step two
  268. 9:31is then when you start talking about
  269. 9:33scanning, scan to email, scan to folder,
  270. 9:36scan to one drive, sharepoint, whatever
  271. 9:38the scanning requirements are, you
  272. 9:40always end up with like a new starter
  273. 9:42and the new starter comes along and
  274. 9:43says, "Oh, how do I use the
  275. 9:44photocopier?" And then it's a ticket to
  276. 9:46it and then they have to put the address
  277. 9:47book for that particular person in or
  278. 9:49they have to set up that printer on that
  279. 9:51person's PC. This this whole manual
  280. 9:55processes just expand massively. Um and
  281. 9:59then you then start talking about one
  282. 10:01drive, sharepoint and things like that
  283. 10:03and and copies weren't originally
  284. 10:05designed to integrate into that that
  285. 10:07cloud environment and and have that
  286. 10:08processes. So people are sat there
  287. 10:10looking at the copers going all I can do
  288. 10:12is scan to email. I I want to do more. I
  289. 10:15want to scan this to a destination where
  290. 10:17it's going to end. So we want to make
  291. 10:19sure that the that they're supported in
  292. 10:22all of these processes from making sure
  293. 10:24they don't have print jobs laying around
  294. 10:26that the security the reporting the
  295. 10:28making sure that it's cost effective
  296. 10:31because again we need to make sure that
  297. 10:32we're not just printing documents by
  298. 10:35mistake they don't just sit on the
  299. 10:37copier and they get shredded and go in
  300. 10:39the bin at the end of the day. So for me
  301. 10:42it's is all that part that we need to
  302. 10:44look at start with. Let's start off with
  303. 10:46the basics which is secure printing
  304. 10:48making sure that the print jobs aren't
  305. 10:50just wasted on the device and then it's
  306. 10:52then all the extra value ads that then
  307. 10:54can start introducing and adding to the
  308. 10:56system.
  309. 10:58>> That makes sense. Yeah. I think of when
  310. 10:59um you know I run into my own issues
  311. 11:01connecting to my home printer and it's
  312. 11:03it's one device that I'm trying to to
  313. 11:05connect to with maybe like my laptop, my
  314. 11:07phone, my my Mac, you know it's it's And
  315. 11:11like if I accidentally print something
  316. 11:12that's sensitive or my my roommate let's
  317. 11:16say sees or I have a guest over and they
  318. 11:17see like that's one thing right that's I
  319. 11:20I I don't really have to worry too much
  320. 11:21about that because I know this person
  321. 11:23but uh for a business the the scale is
  322. 11:26much different and the ramifications are
  323. 11:28much different of course. Um what kind
  324. 11:30of print related challenges do you see
  325. 11:33arise as companies grow and and add more
  326. 11:36devices? maybe they add more locations,
  327. 11:38they you know they scale up, right? So
  328. 11:40they're adding more users. All these
  329. 11:42things complicate the the process of of
  330. 11:44printing. Um what are the challenges
  331. 11:46associated with that?
  332. 11:48>> So really the biggest challenge that I
  333. 11:50see on that is is ownership on it. Um
  334. 11:52because you start off with one machine
  335. 11:54with 10 users. Okay, that that for an IT
  336. 11:57person is is 10 users to manage. That's
  337. 11:59okay. That's fine. But when you start
  338. 12:01multiplying that by hundreds of devices,
  339. 12:04multiple locations, that's where it
  340. 12:07becomes really a complete administrative
  341. 12:09nightmare for it because not only do
  342. 12:11they have to set it up once at one
  343. 12:13location, then people travel to do to
  344. 12:16different office locations. Obviously,
  345. 12:17in today's world, we're so used to
  346. 12:19traveling to to different offices,
  347. 12:21different parts of the world, and we
  348. 12:23just expect it to work. Like we we walk
  349. 12:25into an office and I just want to print.
  350. 12:27Why should I have to be raising IT
  351. 12:30tickets and making phone calls to teams
  352. 12:32or or trying to find a a super user in
  353. 12:35their office location just to set up a
  354. 12:37printer? Um, and this is where I see a
  355. 12:40lot of companies where they're not
  356. 12:43investing in the software solutions to
  357. 12:45make their lives simple. And and yes, we
  358. 12:47we can talk about sort of ROI on savings
  359. 12:50of print costs. I actually much rather
  360. 12:52talking about how much time and simple
  361. 12:54we're going to make it for IT because
  362. 12:56they don't have 20 or 30 IT tickets
  363. 12:58coming in to say how do I set up a
  364. 13:00printer? How do I set up some scanning
  365. 13:03the whole idea of it is that when they
  366. 13:05when it starts multiplying the system
  367. 13:07manages itself like you get a new user
  368. 13:10the system automatically synchronizes
  369. 13:11against that system. The the user logs
  370. 13:13into their laptop the print cues are
  371. 13:15automatically deployed to their device.
  372. 13:17They log into the photocopier, their
  373. 13:19email address is populated, their one
  374. 13:20drive is connected, it just works. So
  375. 13:23yeah, fine, without the systems, you you
  376. 13:25can do some of these processes, but as
  377. 13:28soon as you start multiplying it, it
  378. 13:30becomes a nightmare. Yeah, I I do want
  379. 13:32to turn our attention uh back to my Q
  380. 13:35and the the IT team um side of things
  381. 13:38because uh like yeah, like you were
  382. 13:40saying like that's that's really where
  383. 13:41the focus is cuz at the in a perfect
  384. 13:44world like most people using uh printing
  385. 13:47like they don't have it just works like
  386. 13:48they shouldn't have to think about you
  387. 13:50know uh running run into issues and then
  388. 13:52also just I was thinking to the the
  389. 13:54snowball effect of just like freeing up
  390. 13:56your time like not having to deal with
  391. 13:58printing issues can free your time up
  392. 13:59with to tackle so many more more
  393. 14:01important issues um and and actual you
  394. 14:04know work uh that needs to be done. If
  395. 14:07you look at it from the users point as
  396. 14:09well, I mean that's the thing is is the
  397. 14:10user frustration. I mean the the times
  398. 14:13I've spoken to to to to users when they
  399. 14:16just I just want to print. Why why is it
  400. 14:18so complicated? And and then you
  401. 14:19implement a software solution like my
  402. 14:21and they're like well why didn't we have
  403. 14:22this before? And you go yes absolutely
  404. 14:25because it's it's it's frustrating. Um
  405. 14:28people just want to work and do their
  406. 14:30job. They've got more important things
  407. 14:31to do than worrying about getting a
  408. 14:32print job or a scan.
  409. 14:34>> And you don't know what you don't know.
  410. 14:36I mean, you don't know if there's a
  411. 14:37better solution out there until you're
  412. 14:38presented with one and told about one.
  413. 14:40And um I think that's a good uh segue, I
  414. 14:43guess, to to kind of focus back on my Q
  415. 14:45in a sense of um you know, I know that
  416. 14:47one of the you know, statements I I hear
  417. 14:50um from um my Q is that like you know,
  418. 14:54the platform helps bring these workflows
  419. 14:56and and bring printers under control,
  420. 14:59right? Um talk about that some more.
  421. 15:01What does that mean? What does it
  422. 15:02actually look like in practice for say
  423. 15:04an IT team?
  424. 15:06Yeah, absolutely. So, the first thing
  425. 15:08that we need to look at is is how the
  426. 15:10devices are without a solution. And that
  427. 15:12that's really the pain point to start
  428. 15:13off with where they're unmanaged
  429. 15:15unlocked and every manufacturer has
  430. 15:17their own interface where whether or not
  431. 15:19it's unlocked or locked. It has their
  432. 15:21own user interface which does become a
  433. 15:24problem when you've got multiple brands,
  434. 15:25multiple manufacturers, multiple
  435. 15:27interfaces. A lot of education processes
  436. 15:29to be done there. Whereas myQ then
  437. 15:31standardizes it. You install our
  438. 15:33application on the device and then from
  439. 15:35there you'll be able to have all the
  440. 15:38controls through my so whether or not
  441. 15:40that's the the authentication whether or
  442. 15:42not you're logging into the pins you're
  443. 15:44using the QR codes ID badge one way or
  444. 15:47another you're you're authenticating
  445. 15:48with that device because you're then
  446. 15:50authenticating and saying it's me. The
  447. 15:52system then knows what your approved
  448. 15:54destinations are, what you're allowed to
  449. 15:56do, what's your your policies, what's
  450. 15:58you can do on that machine, are you
  451. 16:00allowed to photocopy, are you allowed to
  452. 16:02print, can you scan here, are you
  453. 16:04allowed to scan there? Basically, when
  454. 16:06you start implementing a software
  455. 16:08solution like ours, it gives the IT
  456. 16:10complete control to define who can do
  457. 16:14what. Now it it can sound like this this
  458. 16:16whole controlling
  459. 16:19uh process through the system although
  460. 16:21yes it is controlling but what it means
  461. 16:23is it gives the users what they actually
  462. 16:26need because what's the point having
  463. 16:28half a dozen different scanning actions
  464. 16:30and areas that they can do that they're
  465. 16:32never going to use and I always use a
  466. 16:34great example of like for example
  467. 16:36scanning in invoices or scanning in
  468. 16:38delivery notes they're generally only
  469. 16:41required by certain departments or or
  470. 16:43certain team members
  471. 16:44So why give everybody in the company
  472. 16:47access to it is making sure that they
  473. 16:49have the right actions at the right
  474. 16:51locations to do that scanning and to do
  475. 16:53those processes for them. They don't
  476. 16:55need to overly complicate things. Um so
  477. 16:57again we talk about time saving and
  478. 16:59exercises not only for it but that's the
  479. 17:02benefits for those users. Also when we
  480. 17:04then start talking about printing it
  481. 17:06means users don't have to think about
  482. 17:08what printer they want to print to. they
  483. 17:10go file print and then wherever they
  484. 17:12walk on any machine that's connected to
  485. 17:14their system they will then just log in
  486. 17:17authenticate themselves and they will
  487. 17:19then get their print jobs for them.
  488. 17:21Yeah, I think if you're it's it's
  489. 17:23absolutely worth like seeding a little
  490. 17:24bit of uh control if it means that the
  491. 17:26printing process is just going to work
  492. 17:27more consistently, right? Right. And
  493. 17:29then once you start kind of like uh
  494. 17:31educating I guess the the end user if
  495. 17:33they're curious about you know the
  496. 17:34authorization and whatnot of just having
  497. 17:36to manage all the different drivers all
  498. 17:38the different sort of fragmented
  499. 17:39printers and um you know machines out
  500. 17:42there and work with different devices
  501. 17:44like it's a complicated process. You
  502. 17:45obviously need to have a little bit of
  503. 17:48um you know control over uh that process
  504. 17:51and managing everything um from like a
  505. 17:53centralized location. It sounds like
  506. 17:55brings up the question of like so like
  507. 17:56what's let's let's say a company u wants
  508. 17:58to implement um myQ but they already
  509. 18:02have a a bunch of existing
  510. 18:04infrastructure um what what does that
  511. 18:07process look like you know like many you
  512. 18:09know if you want to implement my Q do
  513. 18:11you have to go out and buy uh you know a
  514. 18:13bunch of new gear or um does it just fit
  515. 18:15into a lot of these environments without
  516. 18:17requiring uh companies to replace
  517. 18:20anything? I mean it's a mixture of
  518. 18:23answer on that one. Um obviously to
  519. 18:26implement a software solution we need to
  520. 18:28make sure that we got compatible
  521. 18:29hardware whether or not we're looking at
  522. 18:31an on-remise solution a cloud solution
  523. 18:34and what brands the devices are whether
  524. 18:36or not they're they're modern devices
  525. 18:38supporting modern authentication
  526. 18:40encryption and so there's quite a few
  527. 18:43variances of answers on that. Um however
  528. 18:46my does support multiple manufacturers.
  529. 18:49um we not we don't just support one
  530. 18:51brand. Um so for most most companies
  531. 18:54it's not an issue whatsoever because we
  532. 18:56can implement my Q on all these
  533. 18:58different devices and have this
  534. 19:00consistent feel and consistent look
  535. 19:01across all of them. Um but it's one of
  536. 19:04those discovery questions that we'll
  537. 19:05always need to to start off and talk to
  538. 19:07our partners, understand what devices
  539. 19:09they've got and and make sure that they
  540. 19:12are compatible with modern security
  541. 19:13because a lot's changed in the last sort
  542. 19:16of 5 years. um when we start talking
  543. 19:18about encryption levels and security
  544. 19:20levels, the devices need to be able to
  545. 19:23support that because Mikey, it's all
  546. 19:24about security first. So, we want to
  547. 19:26make sure that whatever processes we're
  548. 19:28implementing that we're making sure we
  549. 19:30got that that security behind it. So, in
  550. 19:32the ideal world, yes, you don't have to
  551. 19:34replace the hardware. But if you come
  552. 19:37with this with a bit of hardware that's
  553. 19:38like 10 years old, then of course that
  554. 19:40then can become quite an issue. If you
  555. 19:43look at it the same as like Microsoft
  556. 19:44with with their releases of like Windows
  557. 19:4611 or or the next version, they're
  558. 19:49always having to increase that security
  559. 19:50levels and they're adding these new
  560. 19:52requirements in. Um so again, you see a
  561. 19:55bit of discovery questions to to our MQ
  562. 19:56employees.
  563. 19:58>> Yeah. No, that's that's reassuring to
  564. 19:59know. And um uh the security standpoint
  565. 20:02makes sense. I feel like when you were
  566. 20:03talking about um you know just how my Q
  567. 20:06works and and kind of the um like uh
  568. 20:09authorization and control it has you
  569. 20:11know it makes it obviously kind of
  570. 20:12brings up that question of of security
  571. 20:14and privacy and and how much control it
  572. 20:16has over maybe like uh a user's device.
  573. 20:20Um what you know does does the software
  574. 20:24control just everything pertaining to
  575. 20:26the printing process? Does it control
  576. 20:28the entire computer? like how does um
  577. 20:30the the privacy uh security standpoint
  578. 20:33work from from that angle?
  579. 20:35>> Yeah. So I mean we we what we like to
  580. 20:37call an end to-end encryption. So we're
  581. 20:40basically controlling that process from
  582. 20:42the user's laptop. Um so we have a thing
  583. 20:44called a desktop client. So desktop
  584. 20:46client tool uh is is optional um but
  585. 20:49it's highly recommended to user use it
  586. 20:50because it gives you so many more
  587. 20:52flexibility and options. But the idea is
  588. 20:54the desktop client tool gets installed
  589. 20:55on the user's computer. It will then
  590. 20:57automatically install the correct print
  591. 20:59queue for that person at that right
  592. 21:01location. So wherever they are within
  593. 21:03the business, whatever their job role
  594. 21:05is, they will then get the right print.
  595. 21:07Then when they click print, it's
  596. 21:09encrypted. This is encrypted from the
  597. 21:11point that it's printed all the way
  598. 21:13through its holding processes all the
  599. 21:15way until the user then logs into that
  600. 21:17device and it's then printed. So, we're
  601. 21:20not necessarily controlling the users's
  602. 21:22like Windows PC or Mac or whatever
  603. 21:25device that they're utilizing, but we're
  604. 21:27we're authenticating that user at that
  605. 21:29point of print to make sure that they
  606. 21:32are the only ones that accesses their
  607. 21:34print job. So, it's completely secure
  608. 21:36and it's encrypted during that whole
  609. 21:38entire process. So, a couple of
  610. 21:41different parts of that.
  611. 21:42>> Yeah, that's a good distinction. I mean
  612. 21:44it's it's it's it's just pertaining to
  613. 21:46you know the this sounds like the
  614. 21:48printing process as soon as you know a
  615. 21:50file print essentially u that's that's
  616. 21:53the most important part and um it makes
  617. 21:55sense I mean you don't want you want to
  618. 21:56you have to think about this from a
  619. 21:59business standpoint you can't you know
  620. 22:00be be leaving confidential internal you
  621. 22:03know documents unsecured and um maybe
  622. 22:06you know being left on the printer tray
  623. 22:07and and all that stuff you can't you got
  624. 22:09to you got to think about um making sure
  625. 22:11everything is is uh here and um
  626. 22:14otherwise you're just going to open the
  627. 22:16door to all sorts of other issues.
  628. 22:17Right.
  629. 22:18>> Absolutely. But it's also we also have
  630. 22:21to understand the fact that when we're
  631. 22:22printing into a a print management
  632. 22:24solution like like my Q, it's where that
  633. 22:26data sits. So where does that data go?
  634. 22:28And and that's the part that's the next
  635. 22:30part. Yes, great. I've implemented a
  636. 22:31print management solution, but is my
  637. 22:34data encrypted at rest? Is it
  638. 22:36transferred encrypted? Because you you
  639. 22:38kind of move one problem into another
  640. 22:40problem and and that's the part that we
  641. 22:41we then resolve. for not only be doing
  642. 22:43this this end to end encryption, we're
  643. 22:45making sure that only the right users
  644. 22:46have the right print jobs at the right
  645. 22:47location.
  646. 22:49>> Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Now, I I'd love to
  647. 22:51hear, you know, what the uh adoption
  648. 22:54process looks like in practice. You
  649. 22:55know, it's obviously neat to hear um
  650. 22:57about the features, hear about some of
  651. 22:58the the problems avoided. Um obviously
  652. 23:01the importance placed on on security and
  653. 23:02privacy and and um how encryption fits
  654. 23:05in and and making sure everything is is
  655. 23:07transferred uh securely um from one
  656. 23:10device to another from the cloud over to
  657. 23:12a um you know a local server or printer.
  658. 23:14Um, but I I want to hear about uh you
  659. 23:17know some of the maybe the tangible use
  660. 23:20cases and and success stories I I
  661. 23:22suppose of maybe like the the time uh
  662. 23:25saved from from a lack of you know
  663. 23:27printer headaches or the fewer support
  664. 23:29issues from an IT team or or maybe some
  665. 23:31cost savings u from business leaders.
  666. 23:33I'm just curious u not to push you too
  667. 23:35much on the spot but can you share an
  668. 23:37example of of how a company maybe used
  669. 23:39my Q to to streamline its its print
  670. 23:42environment?
  671. 23:43>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean we we kind of
  672. 23:45in in the industry we always sort of say
  673. 23:47that when you start implementing a print
  674. 23:48management solution just on your print
  675. 23:50volumes on average you'll save about
  676. 23:5230%. Because
  677. 23:55it starts showing the users what you're
  678. 23:57printing and it equally because it
  679. 23:59doesn't just print straight away the
  680. 24:00amount of people that can forget all of
  681. 24:02a sudden oh wait I forgot to change
  682. 24:04something after they hit the print
  683. 24:05button. Um, so to start off with, we
  684. 24:07always generally recommend about 30% of
  685. 24:09savings on your print volume is is step
  686. 24:13one. So there's an massive benefit to
  687. 24:16that basis straight away. When we then
  688. 24:18start talking to it about support ticket
  689. 24:20sites, they generally again see 30 40
  690. 24:24plus% reduction in in tickets just on a
  691. 24:28basic follow me print solution when we
  692. 24:30start implementing my but then you can
  693. 24:32take it even further. So if you have a
  694. 24:35again depends on your environment but if
  695. 24:36you have a lot of direct printer cues uh
  696. 24:39like a mixed environment where they're
  697. 24:41having to manage hundreds of print cues
  698. 24:43because of different office locations
  699. 24:45and things with our with some of our new
  700. 24:47updates that we've released that's going
  701. 24:49to save you about 80% of your IT tickets
  702. 24:51just on printing print Q deployment. So
  703. 24:55there's so many areas that you can build
  704. 24:58out on. Um it's huge amounts of time
  705. 25:01savings just for your for your IT and
  706. 25:03and your on boarding of new users. And
  707. 25:06then have you um successfully you know
  708. 25:08rolled out uh the platform to with an
  709. 25:12organization of or I guess my question
  710. 25:14is um what's maybe like what's one of
  711. 25:16the biggest rollouts you've you've um
  712. 25:20heard uh or had an organization
  713. 25:22incorporate with with my cube?
  714. 25:24>> Oh, so we we do tens of thousands of
  715. 25:27devices on on systems. Um, it's always
  716. 25:30quite an interesting one because it's
  717. 25:32like people say to me, well, what's the
  718. 25:33sort of size customer do you do is is
  719. 25:37ideal for print management. And my
  720. 25:38immediate answer is always one just one
  721. 25:40well one machine and and and you need
  722. 25:42you need print management just because
  723. 25:44of the way that it integrates into
  724. 25:45systems. In in some offices these days,
  725. 25:47you might have a thousand users to one
  726. 25:49device. So, if they're like a modern
  727. 25:52digital first, they don't need much
  728. 25:54printing. They could have a thousand
  729. 25:56users to one printer. But then you get
  730. 25:58into the rounds of having tens of
  731. 26:01thousands of devices globally. So my is
  732. 26:04designed to be incredibly scalable from
  733. 26:07one device all the way up to tens of
  734. 26:09thousands of devices. So we we really do
  735. 26:12have that bread breadth of a software
  736. 26:14solution. But it's all about how the
  737. 26:16system scales. It's not here's a design,
  738. 26:19here's an architecture, that's what it
  739. 26:20does. The whole system was designed to
  740. 26:23be scalable. Now obviously there's more
  741. 26:25resources that are needed. We need to
  742. 26:26make sure that we do the scoping out
  743. 26:28correctly to make sure it's the right
  744. 26:30solution for the customer. But that's
  745. 26:32it. It's designed to scale.
  746. 26:35>> Yeah. No, that's that's an important uh
  747. 26:37pillar because yeah, you got to uh
  748. 26:39companies are always either growing or
  749. 26:40or or shrinking it seems like. And so
  750. 26:42you're always adding devices or taking
  751. 26:43devices away. Um but um I can't imagine
  752. 26:46hear like what the the patchwork
  753. 26:49solution was like for that for an
  754. 26:51organization that has 10,000 devices
  755. 26:53beforehand. Like I I can't imagine life
  756. 26:55without one of these printer management
  757. 26:57softwares.
  758. 26:59>> Absolutely. I mean I always sort of
  759. 27:00laugh with it. It's like this dark heart
  760. 27:02of scripting. Um and it's like if one
  761. 27:04person leaves like the whole system
  762. 27:06could just implode. And it's just like
  763. 27:08right let's let's remove those horrible
  764. 27:10dark heart processes. Um and let's put
  765. 27:13in a system that's that's centrally
  766. 27:15managed. It's going to do it all for
  767. 27:16you. That isn't just only one person
  768. 27:19understands how the system works. And
  769. 27:20for me that's really quite a key point
  770. 27:22because staff change, people change,
  771. 27:25processes change. You need something
  772. 27:26that can scale and manage manage those
  773. 27:28processes is for you. Um and that's
  774. 27:30exactly what what Mikey does.
  775. 27:33>> Well um oh thanks for thanks for
  776. 27:34painting the picture there with some of
  777. 27:35the the kind of real world examples and
  778. 27:37and how you're able to to scale. Um uh
  779. 27:40it does make me question where you know
  780. 27:43where things are going. Um obviously we
  781. 27:45have you know the the hybrid workflows
  782. 27:48um and the cloud has been you know well
  783. 27:51you know massive um it's been you know
  784. 27:54continues to get more and more adopted
  785. 27:56but um I'm curious like what emerging
  786. 27:58trend do you believe will have the
  787. 27:59biggest impact on your industry in the
  788. 28:01in the coming years. I mean it's hard to
  789. 28:03say like you know what things will look
  790. 28:04like in five years from now but um you
  791. 28:07know what are you what are you looking
  792. 28:08forward to?
  793. 28:09>> Yeah absolutely. I mean, it's always a
  794. 28:11difficult one because there there's so
  795. 28:12many trends and patterns and changes and
  796. 28:15obviously so many people have be sat
  797. 28:16here and talked about the buzzwords of
  798. 28:18AI and and and everybody's talking about
  799. 28:20AI and I I still think AI trends are are
  800. 28:23really important and I always say put AI
  801. 28:26where AI is required. Um I I've I've
  802. 28:29spoken many of times on having AI in
  803. 28:30print management solutions is I'm I'm
  804. 28:33I've always turned around and say just
  805. 28:34make the software solution good in the
  806. 28:35first place where you don't need to have
  807. 28:36some AI thing that does it for you. So I
  808. 28:40still think AI within scanning and
  809. 28:42digitization is is really key because it
  810. 28:45it saves so much time and
  811. 28:46classifications, naming files, rooting
  812. 28:49files, processing. I think that's a
  813. 28:51fantastic phase. But for me, I always
  814. 28:54sort of s say what's the continuation
  815. 28:56trends? What's going to be going on? And
  816. 28:57obviously more and more people are
  817. 28:59moving to the cloud. More people are
  818. 29:00digitizing. Um more people are talking
  819. 29:02about security and compliance and making
  820. 29:05sure documents are encrypted and
  821. 29:07processed. So all the times I'm seeing
  822. 29:10this these higher standards required all
  823. 29:13of the time. Um so for Mikey we're
  824. 29:15always having to keep keep on top of
  825. 29:17these processes on these new
  826. 29:19legislations that are coming out all of
  827. 29:21the time as well as all these new
  828. 29:22encryption methods to make sure that the
  829. 29:24products are making sure that they're
  830. 29:25developing for the for that future. And
  831. 29:28one thing I think in the next well
  832. 29:30really in the next 12 months to 24
  833. 29:32months the biggest change I'm going to
  834. 29:34be starting to see is something from
  835. 29:36from Microsoft called Windows protected
  836. 29:38print because that's completely changing
  837. 29:41the whole way that people are going to
  838. 29:43be printing because removing legacy
  839. 29:46drivers the digital won't be any drivers
  840. 29:49there any at all. It's going to be
  841. 29:51completely gone. So I think for me the
  842. 29:53biggest change I'm going to see in the
  843. 29:54next sort of 12 to 24 months is is
  844. 29:57basically the way that everybody prints
  845. 29:59today is going to be gone. Um so we're
  846. 30:02now starting to see people move into a
  847. 30:04things called printer support apps um
  848. 30:06and utilizing IPS. So that's a
  849. 30:09particular printing protocol that will
  850. 30:10be the modern supported method by
  851. 30:12Microsoft. Um and and Mikey, we we
  852. 30:15currently support that that method. Um
  853. 30:17we're in the process of really enhancing
  854. 30:19it to make sure that it supports even
  855. 30:21more features and more functionalities
  856. 30:23for the future because again things are
  857. 30:25changing the print world. As much as
  858. 30:27people don't think about print, so much
  859. 30:30changing with it all of the time.
  860. 30:32>> Yeah, I know. I I had no idea about uh
  861. 30:34Windows protected print, but that sounds
  862. 30:36fascinating. I mean, anything that um I
  863. 30:38I feel like uh a fundamental change uh
  864. 30:41maybe kind of it sounds like getting
  865. 30:44away from kind of the the drivers
  866. 30:45support of things or is that how it
  867. 30:47works?
  868. 30:48>> Correct. Yeah. Getting rid of all the
  869. 30:49drivers. So, there's no you can't deploy
  870. 30:52or install the driver. There's no
  871. 30:54drivers coming via Microsoft Windows
  872. 30:55updates. Drivers are gone. But from
  873. 30:59Microsoft and it's one of their areas
  874. 31:01that they see quite a lot of security
  875. 31:02vulnerabilities in in drivers because it
  876. 31:05allows you to install anything. So quite
  877. 31:07understandably from Microsoft because
  878. 31:08they're after enhancing their security
  879. 31:10on on their platform and they see
  880. 31:12printing or printing drivers as quite a
  881. 31:15big vulnerability. So I understand the
  882. 31:17process but it's going to shake up the
  883. 31:19print industry quite a lot at this
  884. 31:21moment in time and I think there's a lot
  885. 31:22of nervous people out there um frankly
  886. 31:24trying to work out how they're going to
  887. 31:26support it in the future. Um but for us
  888. 31:29not a problem at all.
  889. 31:30>> Well, it's good you're Yeah, you're good
  890. 31:31you're thinking about it. And then I
  891. 31:32wanted to ask too about the u the AI
  892. 31:34particular features. I mean obviously
  893. 31:37this something you you you know you want
  894. 31:38to um keep in mind you know it's it's
  895. 31:40it's already making a splash uh in the
  896. 31:42printing world but have you um guys
  897. 31:45started incorporating AI into your
  898. 31:47platform or how are you approaching you
  899. 31:49know the the u pipeline of um features
  900. 31:52in in regards to AI with with my Q?
  901. 31:55>> Yeah absolutely. So I always like to
  902. 31:57talk in in two different ways like AI in
  903. 32:00product and AI in our platforms. And
  904. 32:03what I mean by platforms and products
  905. 32:04platforms is is looking at how we do our
  906. 32:07documentation. How do our partners
  907. 32:10interact with with Mikey? And we've
  908. 32:12we've invested a lot of time into that.
  909. 32:15Um so we've we've got like AI chat bots
  910. 32:18built into our online documentation
  911. 32:20site. So users aren't having to scroll
  912. 32:22through manuals and find the
  913. 32:24documentation. They can then use our AI
  914. 32:26bots linked in directly to all of our
  915. 32:29documentations and start asking it
  916. 32:30questions. That's making it a really big
  917. 32:32time savings for them because they find
  918. 32:34the information immediately. They're not
  919. 32:36having to try and scroll through lots of
  920. 32:38documents. Um, we've also recently
  921. 32:40implemented an AI bot uh into our
  922. 32:43community portal. And our community
  923. 32:45portal is where people would raise any
  924. 32:47tickets. uh they would ask for any
  925. 32:50support whether that's pre-sales, post
  926. 32:52sales, uh if there's any particular
  927. 32:54technical articles that they're after
  928. 32:56seeing that's in the community portal.
  929. 32:58All of these kind of bits and pieces,
  930. 32:59we're leveraging our AI bots into that
  931. 33:02to make our partners' lives much easier
  932. 33:05and much more efficient to find the
  933. 33:06information that they require because
  934. 33:07there's nothing worse than sat on site
  935. 33:10trying to do an installation and and
  936. 33:11having a problem that you don't quite
  937. 33:12understand how to implement. With this,
  938. 33:14you can just quickly ask the chatbot a
  939. 33:16question and it then creates it gives
  940. 33:18you the answers, gives you the
  941. 33:19feedbacks. Or if if it's something a
  942. 33:21little bit more technical, it will then
  943. 33:22allow you to create a support ticket
  944. 33:24directly within that bot. So you can do
  945. 33:26it really really efficiently. You can
  946. 33:27upload some support files off it goes
  947. 33:29and it creates that for you. So that's
  948. 33:32kind of for what we do for our for our
  949. 33:34partners. Um and then when we start
  950. 33:37looking at the actual products at this
  951. 33:39moment in time we haven't integrated AI
  952. 33:41into the products and it is something
  953. 33:43that is on our road map to sort of this
  954. 33:45this classification for this sort of
  955. 33:48different set of options of how we're
  956. 33:50going to do with those documents and
  957. 33:51that's something that's going to come
  958. 33:52out sort of in the future. Um we sort of
  959. 33:54announced it uh last year in one of our
  960. 33:56our big events of what we're looking at
  961. 33:58doing. Um, but for me really my my core
  962. 34:02fundamentals, I said it before, it's
  963. 34:03just make a pretty management solution
  964. 34:05that's easy to use in the first place.
  965. 34:06You don't need to have AI. Um, our our
  966. 34:09systems are designed to be set up and
  967. 34:10running within 15 20 minutes. If I need
  968. 34:13to build out a server and set it all up,
  969. 34:15it it does not take time at all. It's
  970. 34:18all designed to be automated in an
  971. 34:20instant. Why do you need to leverage AI
  972. 34:22at that particular point? But again,
  973. 34:24there are services, digitization,
  974. 34:26capturing, classifications. Yeah, it
  975. 34:28really makes a lot of sense and that's
  976. 34:30something that will come in the future.
  977. 34:32>> Yeah. And it's exciting to to see that
  978. 34:34you guys are going to uh eventually you
  979. 34:35know incorporate this where it makes
  980. 34:37sense. I mean that's the thing is if if
  981. 34:39you don't you got to roll it out uh
  982. 34:41carefully. You don't want to kind of
  983. 34:43alienate users and you know if there's
  984. 34:45some real utility there then obviously
  985. 34:46you want to incorporate it. But if not,
  986. 34:48then you know maybe take more of a a
  987. 34:51kind of careful approach and and focus
  988. 34:54in on the the knowledge based AI
  989. 34:56applications like you're mentioning with
  990. 34:57the chatbot where it's like if I a lot
  991. 34:59of the the issues with printing is just
  992. 35:00like you don't know what's going on,
  993. 35:02what's wrong. So if you have uh maybe a
  994. 35:04chatbot AI based knowledge knowledge
  995. 35:06base to help answer some of those
  996. 35:08questions and troubleshoot. I mean
  997. 35:10that's that offers some real value uh
  998. 35:12there without necessarily being tied in
  999. 35:14directly to the product. So um I think
  1000. 35:17uh I think that that approach makes
  1001. 35:18sense to me and yeah I want to uh you
  1002. 35:21know obviously talked about where the
  1003. 35:22industry is headed is is really
  1004. 35:24fascinating. Um it also makes you kind
  1005. 35:26of think about you know what still needs
  1006. 35:28to to change right in the here and now.
  1007. 35:31You know as someone with a a front row
  1008. 35:33seat to this space. Um I want to ask you
  1009. 35:36you know if you could change one thing
  1010. 35:38about how your industry operates today
  1011. 35:41uh what would that that one thing be and
  1012. 35:42and and why? is is a hard one to kind of
  1013. 35:45directly answer. So what what would I
  1014. 35:47change now? Because it's it's the reason
  1015. 35:50why it's a difficult one to answer is
  1016. 35:51because actually when you start talking
  1017. 35:52about print in different parts of the
  1018. 35:54world, everybody's got this own ideas of
  1019. 35:57of how of how it should work and and and
  1020. 36:00it's it's really interesting when we
  1021. 36:01start developing new features and
  1022. 36:03functionalities because you get to a
  1023. 36:05point we go I think we should do it like
  1024. 36:07this and then we start talking to our
  1025. 36:09partners globally and then you end up
  1026. 36:10having this complete mixture of answers
  1027. 36:13of of of everybody's opinion and how
  1028. 36:15they think it should work and And we end
  1029. 36:18up having this this massive challenge
  1030. 36:19and and obviously this is what where our
  1031. 36:21developers skills come into place
  1032. 36:23because we always have this option of
  1033. 36:24for every feature, every functionality
  1034. 36:26that you enable, you should be able to
  1035. 36:28disable it because everybody wants a
  1036. 36:30complete change. So I think for me if I
  1037. 36:33could change one thing that makes my
  1038. 36:34life and our developers life easy, it's
  1039. 36:37just everybody globally to agree on one
  1040. 36:39process and it would just be such a
  1041. 36:41time-saving exercise. But it's it's
  1042. 36:44where it becomes a challenge for us and
  1043. 36:45and that's where we leverage our our
  1044. 36:48partners and and we communicate a lot
  1045. 36:50with our partners to really understand
  1046. 36:52what what's their pain points, what's
  1047. 36:53the issues that they're facing and then
  1048. 36:55we then talk globally to a lot of people
  1049. 36:57to then understand that play that all
  1050. 36:58together so that we could then actually
  1051. 37:00then develop those those processes
  1052. 37:02forward. Um so yeah it's it's it's a
  1053. 37:04quite an interesting problem to be have.
  1054. 37:07Yeah. I and the solutions like uh you
  1055. 37:09know with so many industries and and the
  1056. 37:11problems um that are there it's like you
  1057. 37:13you got to have everyone on the same
  1058. 37:15page or at least most of the the the
  1059. 37:18main players on the same page. Um it's
  1060. 37:20like you know when Apple rolls out a big
  1061. 37:22change is they'll they'll send a send
  1062. 37:24out a you know have a ripple effect with
  1063. 37:27where things are going. I'm just
  1064. 37:28thinking of like when they um had the
  1065. 37:30USBC iPhone. It's like that was kind of
  1066. 37:32a a little bit ahead of its time. It was
  1067. 37:34kind of a bold choice. or when they got
  1068. 37:35rid of um the SIM card ejection tool or
  1069. 37:38SIM card tray, uh it was a little bit,
  1070. 37:40you know, kind of shocked the industry,
  1071. 37:42but you know, that's where things all
  1072. 37:44move towards eventually. So,
  1073. 37:46>> exactly. I mean, to be honest, the whole
  1074. 37:48Windows protected printer we just talked
  1075. 37:49about, that's Microsoft's equivalent of
  1076. 37:51uh changing it from a a lightning port
  1077. 37:53to a USBC port. It's just completely
  1078. 37:55changing the way that people do things.
  1079. 37:56Um and that whole whole process. So,
  1080. 37:59yeah, a lot lot of change.
  1081. 38:01Well, um, we'll have to have you back
  1082. 38:03one of these days and talk about the
  1083. 38:04Windows protected print and kind of
  1084. 38:06where things are, um, going just since
  1085. 38:08the last time we we spoke. And, um,
  1086. 38:10things are obviously I I imagine things
  1087. 38:12are moving pretty quickly. Um, it seems
  1088. 38:14like anything software related right now
  1089. 38:16is just moving very very quickly. So,
  1090. 38:18it'll be exciting to to see how things
  1091. 38:20are changed in the printing world. Um
  1092. 38:23but I I want to give you a chance to um
  1093. 38:26tell listeners where to where they can
  1094. 38:27go to learn more about myQ and maybe get
  1095. 38:29in touch with your team and and learn
  1096. 38:31more.
  1097. 38:32>> Yeah, absolutely. So if anybody goes on
  1098. 38:34to uh website and they can go to
  1099. 38:37myqansolution.com
  1100. 38:39um on there you'll find a whole range of
  1101. 38:41information uh that talks about our
  1102. 38:43products, our services, what we can
  1103. 38:45solve. Uh in there we've also got a lot
  1104. 38:47of our case studies. We've got blogs and
  1105. 38:49articles. So, if you really want to kind
  1106. 38:51of start finding out more information,
  1107. 38:52there's there's a whole load of
  1108. 38:53information there. Uh, also on there,
  1109. 38:55there's a contact us page, so you can
  1110. 38:57fill in a form, uh, whether or not you'd
  1111. 38:59like to join us as a as a partner. Um,
  1112. 39:01there's lots of ways you can get into
  1113. 39:03contact through our website. Um, and
  1114. 39:05then one of our regional sales team will
  1115. 39:07be able to kind of get in contact with
  1116. 39:08you and really see how we can help you.
  1117. 39:10>> Perfect. Myensolution.com.
  1118. 39:14Mark, thank you so much for everything.
  1119. 39:15I really appreciate all these the
  1120. 39:17insights and this conversation and um
  1121. 39:19genuinely would love to have you back
  1122. 39:20one of these days to to talk updates.
  1123. 39:22>> Great. Thanks for having me.
  1124. 39:24>> Thank you all for listening to the
  1125. 39:25Source Forge podcast. I am your host Bo
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