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0:00Please, pretty please send me one of
0:03your videos. I don't know how to even
0:06say the words. Well, what what give me a
0:09roundabout what you're thinking?
0:11That somebody in my family's dead. This
0:14is the story of Granamato. He became
0:16obsessed with a Bulgarian webcam model
0:18named Sylvie. His addiction spiraled out
0:21of control and he ended up stealing
0:23large amounts of money from his own
0:24family just to keep chatting with her.
0:26His family noticed something was wrong
0:28and tried to help. Eventually, they gave
0:31him a choice. Stop talking to Sylvie or
0:34move out. Grant didn't take it well. He
0:36was forced to leave the house and the
0:38very next day, his brother didn't show
0:40up for work. Concerned police went to
0:42the house and what they found was
0:45horrifying. All three of Grant's family
0:47members had been murdered. Grant claimed
0:50he had nothing to do with it, but
0:51investigators didn't buy it. He was
0:53found guilty and sentenced to life in
0:55prison. It's a chilling reminder of how
0:58dangerous unchecked obsession and
1:00addiction can become. Now, let's jump
1:02into Grant's police interrogation. It
1:05started off like most do, calm and by
1:07the book. The detectives asked him to
1:10state his name and share some basic
1:11information. Nothing unusual. They asked
1:14about his education, and Grant told them
1:16he had a bachelor's degree in nursing.
1:18He also mentioned that he had a job
1:20interview the day before, which caught
1:22the detective's interest. They pressed
1:24for more details.
1:27So, you got to walk through Coke or
1:28anything? No, no, no, no. I'll hold off
1:30on that. Okay. Hi, I'm Eva. Hi. How are
1:32you?
1:34I'm here. Hey, we really appreciate you
1:37coming up here with us and uh at any
1:40time during this you need to stop and go
1:41to the bathroom, want a drink, um
1:44snacks, just let me know and we we'll be
1:47happy to get to it. Um my name is Danny
1:49Anderson and uh I'm a deputy county
1:52Sheriff's Office as is Eva. Um, so we
1:55just want to talk to you a little bit
1:56and we'll get this in and out. Be on our
1:58way. Okay. Um, full name. My, uh, full
2:03name is Grant Tieran Amato. How do you
2:05spell Tan? T I E R N A N. I like that.
2:11Your birth? Um, May 20th, 1989. Okay.
2:16Um, home address. Home address is 2112
2:19Sultan
2:20Circle, Trulio, Florida.
2:2532766.
2:28Um, phone number uh for the home or for
2:32home. Well, I mean my original cell
2:34phone number was
2:394076870738. Uh, home phone number was
2:454079711422. Uh, my cell phone currently
2:47doesn't have any service with it. So, I
2:49mean, it's just So, you don't have you
2:52haven't moved to another just that one's
2:54no longer good. My dad had told me that
2:56he that when he disconnected my service
2:57that he also changed my phone number.
2:59So, I don't know what the new phone
3:00number is, but uh I mean it's probably
3:03like you can probably still see it. Do
3:04you have the phone or it it was in my
3:06duffel bag. Oh, there gotcha.
3:10Um email. You have an email if we need
3:12to. My main email is Giamato all one
3:16word all all lowercase. uh Giamato light
3:19like a light bulbgmail.com
3:26education I have a bachelor's of science
3:28in nursing from UCF back in
3:332011 uh and that's my highest level okay
3:36what what is there any special uh
3:38nursing degree what you do or uh I mean
3:41I have like other certifications
3:43um but uh I mean with that like I
3:46primarily worked in the hospital
3:48for I think 5 years, five or six years
3:52and then I was pursuing a master's of
3:54science in nurse anesthesia. Um that was
3:57back in 2015 I believe. Okay. Um, but
4:01then I didn't complete that and then I
4:02just went back to nursing. And then when
4:04this
4:05whole like wrongful accusation of the
4:08grand theft charge that I told you about
4:09in the car when that happened, uh, I
4:12stopped working at the hospital and then
4:14that took like I don't think we I don't
4:16think we talked about that in the car.
4:17Oh. Oh. Well, I had I was accused of
4:19grand theft of the third degree back
4:22in June of 2018. Um that like went on
4:28for 6 months and during that time I
4:30obviously wasn't allowed to work because
4:31of it. Um and then where was that at?
4:35Florida Hospital South, the main one
4:37down in Orlando. General Orange Avenue.
4:39Uh
4:41Rollins, that's where it is. Rollins.
4:43Okay. Um so when that happened,
4:46obviously I was dismissed from that job
4:48and then I couldn't get another job
4:49because now you have an outstanding
4:51felony charge on your name. Sure. Um so
4:53then I got the attorney. It it all went
4:55through and then finally in December
4:57they posted on the Orange County clerk
5:00courts or whatever website where your
5:02where your file is that there was no
5:04evidence ever ever presented. All the
5:06charges were dropped and now I'm just in
5:08the process of expuning that from my
5:09records. But
5:12um because you know I can't keep just
5:15not working forever. Uh and you know
5:17that was that was kind of a a topic
5:20around the house was you know I need to
5:22get started here right? Um, who was your
5:24attorney for for that? Uh, Lauren Lyham,
5:26Chapman, Chapman Law Group. Okay.
5:28They're I think that one's based in
5:30Sarasota. Okay.
5:33Um, so then, but they didn't really have
5:35to do anything. State attorney file any
5:37charges. So, state attorney didn't file
5:39anything and then she just presented
5:41that she was going to be my attorney and
5:42that was the most work she ever had to
5:44do. Okay.
5:46Um, and then I'd been applying for jobs
5:50for the last couple weeks. I'd gotten a
5:52like three or four call backs. Um, and
5:55then I went on a job interview yesterday
5:56for a home infusion nurse job. Where
5:59where was that at? Um, that was with uh
6:05God a Creta a credto.
6:09Is that like a staffing or is that a
6:12like a like a head hunter kind of job?
6:14No, no, no. That's uh that's like their
6:16actual company. It's uh God, why can I
6:18not remember the first name? It's
6:19something scripts team scripts.
6:25Where's the location? Uh, it's out close
6:28to the airport. It's on Lee Vista.
6:32What time was your interview yesterday?
6:34Uh, it was scheduled for 10:00. I got
6:36there around 9.
6:38Uh, and then I think we actually had the
6:40interview at about 9:45. How'd that go?
6:42I mean, it was all good. Uh, they didn't
6:44have anything. They said that they'd
6:45probably be getting back to me by
6:46Tuesday or Thursday this coming week.
6:48get you back to work. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I
6:51mean it's like it's crappy world when
6:54you know you don't have any money, you
6:55can't do anything. So financially, how
6:58how's the the nursing what you did? I'm
7:00sorry I just don't know that much. She
7:01knows all about nursing. The nursing how
7:03how does it pay? How does it pay? Um I
7:05mean if you work your your standard 3 31
7:0712 hours a week, you get anywhere
7:09between I'd say 45 and $55,000 a year.
7:12So I mean it's not bad. Um, obviously if
7:15you work overtime like some of the
7:17nurses who have also been nurses for a
7:18long time. Uh, I mean they can make six
7:21figures if if you work five years. What
7:23was your best What was your best year? I
7:25think my best year I made like 55,000.
7:2755 cuz I rarely worked overtime, right?
7:29You know, and I was just cuz I I had the
7:31whole plan of going to uh to graduate
7:33school. So I was just kind of using it
7:35as a stepping stone for that time. Just
7:36to pay the bills to get you where you
7:37gota and that and what you're going for,
7:41what does that pay? Nurse anesthesia
7:43pays I mean base like about 150 up to
7:47175. You work a lot of overtime. You can
7:49cusp 200 but then you know. So what
7:51would you actually be doing if I could
7:54do anything? No I mean with that job
7:55that an nursing right what would you Oh
7:59yeah nursing test. Thank you. Uh you
8:01just be you're the you're in the O. You
8:04put the patients to sleep keep them
8:05alive during surgery. Wake them up. Send
8:07them off to I thought that was a doctor
8:09that did that in Florida. Yeah. In
8:11Florida, the anesthesiologist, which is
8:13the MD equivalent, if you will, they
8:16have to come in at the start of surgery,
8:18they have to induce the patient to put
8:20them to sleep. And then as long as
8:21they're comfortable with you, the
8:22surgeon's comfortable with you, then the
8:24anesthesiologist leaves and then you
8:26take care of the whole entire surgical,
8:28right? Okay. And then again, you know,
8:31by the time you're a CRNA, you're
8:33obviously confident enough to wake the
8:35patient up. So when I was a student
8:37though, the anesthesiologist would
8:38sometimes come back in for wake up to
8:40make sure everything's okay and then you
8:42take them to the uh pack or the posttop
8:44area, drop them off, you give the nurse
8:47report and then you go on to your next
8:48case. Okay.
8:50Um high school, where'd you go? I went
8:53to Timber Creek High School on Avalon.
8:56Okay. And graduated what year? Uh 2007.
9:00Okay. And then did you go right to UCF
9:02and start your degree? Summer. Summer.
9:04Yeah. spoken.
9:06This interview took place just one day
9:08after the murders. At first, the
9:10detectives asked Grant casual, harmless
9:12questions. Things like his daily life,
9:15past relationships, and hobbies. The
9:17goal was to make him feel comfortable so
9:19they could later surprise him with the
9:21tough questions. Grant opened up easily.
9:24He talked about watching anime and
9:26playing video games with his brother. He
9:28spoke fondly of him, which made it hard
9:30to believe he could be responsible for
9:32his death. As the conversation went on,
9:35it became clear that Grant was really
9:37into computers and gaming. He talked
9:40about trying to build a career on Twitch
9:42and eventually brought up the trouble
9:43he'd gotten into for stealing. Then the
9:46topic shifted and things took a darker
9:48turn. Grant began talking about his
9:51online girlfriend, the woman he had
9:53become dangerously obsessed with.
9:56Uh, just like all the videos, you have
9:58to tell us. a cam model. It's like they
10:01they it's like a virtual girlfriend, I
10:04guess you could say. Okay. Like that
10:05type of situation. Mhm. So, a lot of the
10:08money went to her. Okay. Where's she at?
10:10She lives in Bulgaria. Where? Bulgaria.
10:13Where's that? Over in Europe. It's like
10:16outside of Germany. Something like that.
10:17You ever been there? No. Okay. Um it
10:20wasn't it wasn't that serious. What
10:21would you give her money for? Um just
10:23for like the time online with her. Yeah.
10:26So, it was just like that type of thing.
10:28And what does she charge by the minute?
10:30By the hour? Minutes. Okay. And how much
10:32is it per minute? Oh god. I think it was
10:34like
10:36it was like 90 tokens a minute. And it's
10:40like the conversion rate for all of that
10:43is like like $600 for like a like 5,000
10:50or something tokens or something like
10:51that. So, and then it was 4 hours a
10:54night.
10:55Um, so I mean it's I mean that's
10:57basically just where all like the cost
10:58went to was you pay real money for the
11:00tokens then you use the company's
11:02digital currency for that. So you do and
11:05when did you meet her? I met her
11:08[Music]
11:11um at the beginning of July. Yeah. At
11:15the very beginning of July. Okay. And
11:18and still talking to her? Still. Yeah. I
11:21mean, more just on uh like Twitter, like
11:23just through direct messaging. Um,
11:25again, cell phone service doesn't work,
11:27so it's like I can't use the the
11:29chatting like that. How much do you
11:30think you spent on this? Cuz it seems
11:32kind of pricey. Yeah. 90 tokens and and
11:36$5,000 for for how many tokens?
11:40No, no, it's $600 for for 5,000. For
11:435,000. Okay. So, how much do you think
11:45you spent um on this?
11:48probably close
11:52to like
11:54$200,000, I'd say. $200,000? Yeah. And
11:59where did the money come from? Money
12:00came from me, uh, my brother, and then
12:04my dad.
12:05Did they know where the money was going
12:07to? They didn't know that it was going
12:09to, uh, a cam, a cam model. I was saying
12:12that it was going towards my Twitch
12:15streaming uh like
12:18stuff. Yeah. Like advertising, like
12:19putting my name out there and that that
12:21type of thing. But based on what you're
12:23telling me, only so many people make so
12:25much money just I think just a few make
12:28a bunch of money. So that that was like
12:30that the ultimate goal is to get to
12:31that. I was hoping that that the stars
12:33would align and then I would be like one
12:35of those people because I was good at
12:36the games and I you know I'm a like a
12:39funny pleasant person on the camera and
12:41that type of thing. So um yeah I mean
12:45that's so I guess to like bring it all
12:47back with why I was brought to
12:49Cornerstone. Uh it was a mix of all of
12:53those things. It's like he felt
12:55like you know I
12:58um he felt like you needed to be
13:00grounded. Yeah. Yeah. And so then I was
13:04there, you know, I spoke to like the
13:06therapist and psychiatrist and all that
13:07stuff. I didn't need any medications for
13:09anything. They had analyzed it as this
13:13is an isolated event. You've been out of
13:14work. You have this PTSD from the whole
13:18getting arrested thing. And I mean, the
13:20last thing on my record was, I think, a
13:22speeding ticket back when I was at UCF.
13:24And then, you know, just having all of
13:26that stuff going on.
13:30Um, but then I didn't they had signed me
13:33they they had signed me up I think to be
13:35there for 60 days but then I was only
13:37there until January 4th. So who paid for
13:40that? My brother Cody. What was the cost
13:41of that? You know 15,000. It was
13:44$15,000 and then I think uh when I had
13:48gotten back, we were going through the
13:49process of calling them and seeing if we
13:50could get any type of refund. And I
13:52think they said that he was going to get
13:54refunded $3,000 from his 15. Sure. Um
13:57but I don't there so long. Right. Right.
13:59But I don't know if that transaction had
14:01ever gone through yet. So their final
14:03diagnosis of you was what? That I was
14:05fine. That didn't need to be there.
14:07Yeah. That I was I was fine. I told them
14:09all about like my living situation and
14:11how it had been stressful and then it
14:13got better and then now it's just
14:14stressful again. But they had all just
14:17said that it was just this isolated
14:18event situational PTSD from Right. Yeah.
14:20Yeah, like once once you can get this
14:22legal thing taken care of, which I I
14:25don't know if I mentioned, but when we
14:27looked online and we saw that all the
14:28charges have been dropped, that was on
14:30like November 30th or 31st, the day
14:32before we were going to Japan. So, while
14:35that was good and everything, um I still
14:38knew that it was still going to be like
14:40on your record until you get it expuned.
14:42So, you know, I was still thinking,
14:44okay, at least now I can maybe start
14:46applying when we get back from Japan.
14:49Um, but you
14:52know, yeah. So, I mean, after you get
14:55back, you got back on the 15th of
14:58December of December.
15:02Got
15:02back. I thought you said you went on the
15:0522nd of December. Yeah, that's when
15:07that's when I went to Yeah, it was after
15:08Japan. And it was because when I had
15:11gotten back, my um my mom and dad were,
15:15you know, dealing with a lot of the
15:17financial stuff while we were up there.
15:18Mhm. And then um when I got back, that's
15:22where my dad started to get really kind
15:24of overbearing. And I mean, rightfully
15:26so. I know what I did, but it's like
15:28with him, it was every single day, hours
15:30a day, excuse me, hours a day. He'd come
15:33home from work and then he would just
15:36talk to me just about the same exact
15:38thing over and over and over and over
15:39and over again. And did he get did he
15:41get heated? He would get heated, but he
15:43How about you? Did you get heated? No. I
15:45mean, I was, you know, I I was always
15:47the person in the family where like my
15:49brother Cody would interrupt my dad when
15:51he was talking. Uh my mom would
15:53interject and say, "You can't be saying
15:55that," or whatever. But for me, I would
15:57just sit there and I would just let my
15:58dad talk so that he could say everything
15:59that he wanted to say. Um and then if I
16:02saw that it was something that he wanted
16:03me to respond to, then I'd respond. But
16:05I would never be heeded to him. Sure.
16:07Especially if I felt like I was in the
16:08wrong, right? Um do you think you were
16:11in the wrong? I mean, yeah. To some
16:13extent. To some extent. you know, uh,
16:15spending that amount of money, it's
16:16idiotic to do that, you know, especially
16:18when you're not making 200,000. At this
16:21point, Amato begins to explain how he
16:23met Sylvie, the woman who would
16:25ultimately ruin his life. She was a cam
16:28model on a website and spending time
16:29with her didn't come cheap. Amato
16:32quickly became hooked. He ended up
16:34spending nearly $200,000 of his family's
16:36money just to keep talking to her. He
16:39never told them the truth. Instead, he
16:41lied and said the money was going toward
16:44his streaming career. During the
16:46interview, he admitted to the police
16:47that he had spent a huge amount on
16:49Sylvie. But the strange thing was how
16:51casually he talked about it as if he
16:54didn't see anything wrong with what he
16:55had done. He had conversation. Uh it
16:57would
16:58be Thursday, Thursday. Uh
17:02because one of his rules was that I
17:05wasn't allowed to talk to the woman
17:06anymore that I had been talking to. Um,
17:10but I guess you could say behind the
17:12scenes, my mom would let me talk to her
17:15through her cell phone using Twitter.
17:18Um, and you know, she would tell me
17:21like, "Look, you got to keep it, you
17:24have to keep it just basic because if
17:26you say anything or if you entice
17:28anything or do anything like that, it
17:30might lead her
17:33to say something to like my dad or
17:35something like that." Because how would
17:36she get in touch with him? Because
17:38apparently when I was in Cornerstone, my
17:40dad told her because because he had like
17:44hacked my computer or something like
17:45that and then he found everything
17:47electronics guy like you and your
17:48brother except he's more of that like
17:50hacking level like able to do all that
17:52stuff. So he had found you know um like
17:56just the stuff that was related to her
17:59and
18:00then you know he like he like erased my
18:03whole entire computer. He put a password
18:05on it. So, it's like even when I came
18:06back up until Thursday, like I wasn't
18:08able to go onto my own computer to look
18:10at anything. I basically he was treating
18:12you like a small child, right? And
18:14rightfully so. I mean, spending that
18:16amount of I was acting childish. I I can
18:18kind of get it. But, um, so yeah,
18:21anyways, on Thursday, he had apparently
18:24found out that I was speaking to her
18:26again. And when I came back on the 4th,
18:31me, my mom picked me up from the
18:33Cornerstone place. And then me and my
18:35mom met my dad at California Pizza Grill
18:38or Kitchen in Waterford Lakes. And he
18:41had this list front and back on a piece
18:43of paper of all the rules. This is
18:46what's going to happen. This is why I'm
18:48acting the way that I'm going to act.
18:49I'm not going to be dad anymore. I'm
18:50going to be Chad. And I basically told
18:54him that I'm going to be I'm going to be
18:58present. I'm going to do what I can. I'm
19:00going to start to try and get jobs. Now,
19:01I told him what my plan was.
19:03Um, you know, it wasn't really my
19:06intention to get This shows just how far
19:08Gran's family went to stop him from
19:10talking to the Bulgarian woman. They
19:12took serious steps to block his access.
19:14Almost like they were dealing with a
19:16child, not a grown man. What's shocking
19:18is that Grant still didn't see anything
19:20wrong with what he was doing. Even after
19:23his father told him to stop, Grant kept
19:25talking to her in secret. He went behind
19:27his family's back and did it anyway. was
19:31um you know it wasn't really my
19:34intention to continue talking to this
19:35woman but it just kind of happened. Um
19:39and then because there was like that
19:41emotional connection I guess you could
19:42say uh between her and me like I I like
19:46you know it felt like like like a
19:47relationship you know I didn't want to
19:48just stop cold turkey on it.
19:51Um, so he had apparently found out and
19:55then one happy, right? And one of the
19:57stipulations was that he told at the
19:59dinner was if you speak to this woman
20:02again, you're out of the house. I'm
20:04kicking you out. You can pack up your
20:06[ __ ] and then you're off my property.
20:08Mhm. And then because of the way that he
20:11used to be, he had told me
20:14that basically if that happens that if I
20:17ever step back onto his property that he
20:19would kill me. So, you know, on
20:23Thursday,
20:25um um that all happened and then I was
20:29in the process. I was getting all my
20:30stuff together. I was peacemealing it
20:32out to the car and then uh you know I
20:36had interview on Friday so I I had to
20:39get my suit out to my car. I was trying
20:41to just get all of my necessities as
20:43best as I could from, you know, a
20:45lifetime of living inside the house. And
20:47then
20:49um
20:51um my brother was working that night and
20:54I think he was working like one of his
20:56long nights but he ended up getting off
20:57early and then I had met with my brother
21:01before he came home just like in the
21:03neighborhood area and then where it was
21:06just on the uh like the back side of the
21:09house like along I don't remember what
21:10that road's called but it's like you
21:12take the bend where it has those two
21:14blinking lights and then it's just down
21:16that road
21:17Not for Christmas.
21:19Is it for Christmas when you still turn
21:21the corner? I think so. I'm not I think
21:24so. Well, it was Yeah, it was just it
21:26was just down that road. Okay. Um and
21:30then I basically brought him up to speed
21:32and he had told me that he was going to
21:34do whatever. What time was anything?
21:37Uh God, what time was that? What What
21:40time do you go to Let me back up a
21:41second. I apologize. You, mom, and dad
21:44go to California Pizza Kitchen in
21:46Waterford at what time? Oh, that was all
21:48the way back on January 4th.
21:51Oh, you said Thursday. Oh, that wasn't
21:52Thursday. No, no, no. That was that was
21:55when I had come back from Cornerstone
21:56and he was giving me the the rules.
21:58Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, due Thursday then.
22:01That Well, what happened with that? That
22:02Thursday you meet with Cody down the
22:04street. This is this past Thursday. Yes.
22:06Okay. Tell me tell me about that. after
22:07you and your dad argue. After me and my
22:09dad had argued and he had told me, you
22:12know, this is how it's going to be and
22:14you know, all that stuff. Okay. Um, this
22:16is at the house this past Thursday. Yes.
22:19Yeah. Okay. Cuz this is what now?
22:20Saturday. So, yeah. Past Thursday, I
22:23guess you could say. Yeah. Um,
22:26so then, yeah, I spoke with Cody. He
22:29told me about all that. He had given me
22:32his debit so that because I mean, I
22:34don't have any money and I don't know
22:35where to go. Mhm. You know, I'd never
22:37been out of the house on my own. Um, and
22:39then the last thing that I was told was
22:41just that, you know, basically once
22:42again that he'll take care of it because
22:44this is Cody. This is Cody. What time
22:46What time is this approximately?
22:48I'd say a little
22:51after 10 10:30ish at night. Thursday
22:55night. Thursday night. Okay.
22:58Um and
23:00then yeah, so then after that I just
23:04like
23:05[Music]
23:06stayed in that air in the vicinity area
23:10for a number of hours and then I had
23:13remembered over some of the nights when
23:14I would work overnight and then I'd be
23:16able to come like get off early that I
23:18could that the Publix on 50 on Colonial,
23:22the one that's by the Tractor Supply
23:24419. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. that that Publix
23:27it's like their guest Wi-Fi is always
23:29still active even when the store closes
23:31down. So I was like, "Okay, well I'm
23:32going to go there cuz I have my
23:33Surface." Um, and I can, you know, check
23:35on my emails. I had to pull up the
23:38address to my interview because I don't
23:40have GPS. Um, so then I would like write
23:42all that stuff down and then,
23:45um, I was basically just waiting in that
23:48parking lot until I had to leave to go
23:51to the interview.
23:53Um, and then I mean that was the LA
23:55because again it's like no cell phone
23:57service. Uh, I mean email was literally
24:01like my only form of communication. And
24:04then you know Yeah. I just I didn't have
24:07any I didn't you know I was I went to
24:10the the Double Tree cuz I was like I
24:12can't just stay in my car again all
24:13night. Right. And how did you pay for
24:15that? I paid for it with my with my
24:17debit card. With your debit card? Yeah.
24:19cuz I think there was like the 400 or
24:21300 and something dollars still left on
24:22it. Okay. Um, when did you get there?
24:25The double tree.
24:29I think I got there
24:33around 3 or 4 p.m. Friday. Friday.
24:38And then Yeah. And then I was just I
24:40mean I would like go out to my car so I
24:41get like a bottle of water or something
24:43like that or if I forgotten something,
24:44you know, just like necessity wise. Um,
24:47and then I was just there the whole
24:48night. Talk to Cody, talk to mom, talk
24:51to dad. No, I I couldn't talk to anybody
24:53cuz I didn't have But you had the phone
24:55in the room. Oh, yeah. I did have the
24:56phone in the room. But anybody? No. I
25:00just I didn't even honestly think about
25:02it cuz I was I was
25:04like, you know, away from a place where
25:08I lived for 25 years or something like
25:10that. I had never, you know, as
25:11embarrassing as it is, I'd never been on
25:13my own. Right. Right. The longest period
25:15I ever been away from anybody is 2 weeks
25:16when we were up in Japan.
25:19So, I mean, yeah, but you had your
25:21brother with you, so Right. Right. You
25:23had family with you. But yeah, I mean,
25:26so I guess I was waiting to see what
25:29would happen with this job cuz I was
25:31told I'd either be told Tuesday or
25:33Thursday. And then maybe I would try an
25:37outreach or something like that. or the
25:38last time um you know when it was like
25:42an issue where I didn't have my phone
25:43like my brother would email me so I was
25:46just thinking okay well I mean if
25:47anything he knows the situation he'll
25:49just email me so I checked my email a
25:51few times last night and then I just
25:53inevitably was able to to go to sleep um
25:57was it Thursday night that your dad told
25:59you that if you talked to the girl that
26:01he would kick you out or was that the
26:02conversation on the 4th at California
26:04that was on that was yeah on the 4th and
26:06then he just went through with it on
26:09Thursday. Okay. So, so Thursday, you're
26:12home all day? Yes. With your mom. She
26:14works at home, correct? Yes. Your dad's
26:16at work. What's his normal work hours?
26:18Uh, he works
26:20until I think he had to go in early that
26:22day. Uh, cuz he had to start like doing
26:24overtime or something like that. And he
26:27normally works though from like 5 or
26:296:00 in the morning to I think he gets
26:32home between like 5:30 and 6:00 at night
26:34or something like that. What time do you
26:35get home that day? Uh, he got home at
26:38like 5:30. 5:30. 5:30. 5:45. One of
26:41those two. Okay. Um,
26:45comes in. Were you there when he came
26:47in? Yes. Okay.
26:49Describe your dad normal come in. Uh,
26:51when my dad normally comes in, he'll
26:53come in. He'll look into the uh the
26:56living room, which is like there's the
26:58kitchen and then there's the living room
26:59where it's got like the long couch and
27:02whatnot that's inside. And then there's
27:04the TV right there. Okay. So, he'll
27:06normally come in through there and then
27:08he'll talk or he'll ask his questions or
27:11he'll Where were you? Where were you at
27:12when he came in? I was just in there. I
27:14was just watching uh in the virtual
27:15reality where where you said you had
27:17that set up, right? Right. Yeah. I was
27:18just watching And that's in what room?
27:20The living room. The living room. Yeah.
27:21I was just watching YouTube at that
27:23time. Just like did I talk to you? Yeah.
27:26Okay. Uh, and that's where
27:29uh cuz he had I don't know how he found
27:33out, but he had apparently found out and
27:35then found out why that I was talking to
27:38you to the woman. Yeah. And then uh he
27:41came in and then he asked me in a calmer
27:44state, I guess you could say. Like
27:48basically the the leading question of,
27:50you know, why do you think we're about
27:53to have this conversation? giving me, I
27:56guess, that opportunity to be honest and
27:58truthful, to maybe tone it down a little
28:00bit. I of course did what I always did
28:03where I kind of didn't admit to it. Um,
28:08and then he he came out and he told me
28:10that I'd been doing that. He had proof.
28:12Yeah. Um, have an argument. Yeah. And
28:15then, you know, he
28:18got
28:20just he had kind of reverted back to the
28:23way that he was when we were younger
28:24where, you know, he kind of, you know,
28:27pulled me up from the couch and then he
28:29was yelling at me to pack my [ __ ] up and
28:31just get out of the house that he was
28:32the one who had to be the hammer and
28:35that, you know, why am I making him have
28:37to go through this and all this other
28:39kind of stuff. Okay.
28:40So, you know, basically I had um he's
28:43becoming violent.
28:45Like the way you described when you were
28:47you when you and Cody were kids, right?
28:49What do you do? Um like I said, he
28:51pulled me up from the couch just by like
28:54the shirt that I was wearing. And then,
28:56you know, after that, he was basically
28:58just having that yelling where it was
29:00kind of kind of like cracking, you know,
29:02like his voice would either crack or he
29:05would just he was basically just yelling
29:06at that point and monitoring your mom.
29:09My mom was in her office. Okay.
29:12Because And I'm sorry to cut you off.
29:15Does mom have like an office hours? Like
29:17she would get up and do her work all day
29:19and a certain time I'm done doing my
29:21office work and I'm doing my family
29:22stuff. Not really. Okay. You work there
29:24all the time, right? She would I think
29:26the the major thing that she would do is
29:28she would like cook dinner. Okay. And
29:30then after that um she would go back
29:32into her office. What time was dinner
29:34usually? Generally between
29:36like 7 like I guess usually around 7:00
29:397:00 7:30 is when we'd usually have
29:41dinner most nights. Did you guys already
29:43have dinner at night? No. No. I think
29:45what was she going to make? I think she
29:47was going to make something with like
29:48chicken or something like that. stir fry
29:50or something like that because Cody was
29:52working late so she didn't want to make
29:53something where cuz my dad would always
29:55buy meals that were for four. So he we
29:58didn't want to pull out anything where
29:59there would be leftovers or something
30:00like that. So but she hadn't uh started
30:03making it yet. I think she was
30:04defrosting the chicken. That was about
30:06what time?
30:10Uh what
30:11time? I think she took those out like at
30:144 or something like that in the
30:16afternoon. And at this time the the
30:18argument with dad is at what time? The
30:20argument with dad is
30:21like 6 6:30 or so. 6:30. Yeah. Okay.
30:27Um you have your argument. You pack your
30:30stuff. I have my argument and then I'm
30:32packing my stuff. I'm, you know, taking
30:33it out to the car. It took me like a
30:35couple hours to get as much as I could.
30:37Just kind of out into there. Um, and
30:40then yeah, it's like mom's kind of just
30:43staying out of it to a certain degree
30:46because she knows like how dad can be.
30:49And then uh yeah, I
30:53mean, you know, I was and that's just
30:55pretty much where I was just kind of
30:56like waiting. So you wait outside. Did
30:59anybody call Cody and tell him what's
31:00going on? No, not I mean, not that I
31:02know of. Okay. And how did you know to
31:04meet Cody down the street? It's because
31:06u my mom had actually come and told me
31:10that you know she again she was trying
31:12to bridge the gap and then before I
31:15actually physically left I had told my
31:18mom that you know I'm going to be close
31:21I'm going to be local I'm just going to
31:22be like down those were tough words for
31:23a father to say to his son but maybe
31:26that was the only way he could get
31:27through to him no matter what the family
31:29did it didn't work Grant kept breaking
31:32the rules and things at home kept
31:34getting worse.
31:35Eventually, they had no choice but to
31:37kick him out of the house. Later, Grant
31:40talked about meeting his brother after
31:42he had moved out. But this is where his
31:44story starts to fall apart and where the
31:47detectives begin to catch him in his
31:48lies.
31:52[Music]
31:53Sorry, I need the bathroom. And I wanted
31:56to point out a picture of Fort Christmas
31:58cuz we're not aware I I'm not familiar
32:00with the area. that. So, we're going to
32:02go back and talk again about this cuz
32:04it's kind of important to me about
32:06Cody and you meeting that night, right?
32:09So, then that that night, which was
32:11Thursday, Thursday night, you meet Cody.
32:15Um because And did he ever tell you why
32:18he left work early? No. No. I mean, he
32:20was I I'd assume that it was just
32:22because he had been allowed to leave
32:23early. You've been allowed to leave
32:24early. Okay.
32:26So, here's I think this is the blinking
32:29lights there. So this is to to me this
32:32is 419 left on Lake Mills, right? Left
32:35on Fort Christmas. Okay. Um where would
32:39you say you met Cody on Fort Christmas?
32:42So wait, is this is this that other like
32:44neighborhood? I think maybe I'm wrong. I
32:46think it comes this way is is 419. This
32:50is where this county side. No, I think I
32:53think this
32:54is I think this is up by the Hitchen
32:57Post. You come up, you make a right on
32:58for Christmas. This is where the blanks
33:00are. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz Yeah. This
33:03goes into Sultan or Picket Downs, right?
33:05Is right here. Then this is the circle.
33:08Is this where you live at? Where do you
33:09live at? If this is if this is like the
33:12entrance to Pickicket Down. Yeah, I live
33:13like Okay. So, here's there's blinking
33:15light. There's blinking lights right
33:17here so people don't run up into his
33:19house. I think that's what there's two
33:20red lights. Oh, yeah. That's on the
33:22dude's fence. Yeah. Then there's those
33:23sir. There's those two yellow arrow
33:26blinking one to the corner. The corner.
33:28So these are blinking lights here.
33:31All right. So then where do you and Cody
33:33meet? Like way down this road like Yeah.
33:36Further past on that road. So past does
33:40this dead end anywhere? I don't think
33:42so. I think it like it literally I think
33:44goes into Blo and then it go and then if
33:46you keep going it which was the way that
33:48I inevitably took it uh where it'll dump
33:51you out on to 50 and then I came up 50
33:54to go back to the Publix. Right. So here
33:56are the blinking lights. How far down do
33:58you think you met? Half mile, mile? Uh,
34:01I mean, a significant ways. I mean, just
34:05an approximate.
34:09I mean, I would say it was probably over
34:10a mile. Is this somewhere you and
34:12haven't met before? We know uh like you
34:15know where that if you're on this road,
34:18the intersection where it's like it
34:21intersects with another another road and
34:23then it's got like a guardrail or
34:24something like that right there. It was
34:26still past that area, but it was it was
34:29close to that intersection. Was it in
34:31the roadway? Like off the roadway or in
34:34Yeah, it just off. When someone is lying
34:36and you ask them to be specific, they
34:38usually get nervous or try to move on
34:40quickly. In the clip we just saw, that's
34:43exactly what happened. Amato tried to
34:45avoid giving a clear answer about where
34:47he was and instead mentioned a location
34:49that wasn't even on the map just to
34:51brush it off and move on.
34:54I think that there was something that
34:55obviously happened at the house. Tell me
34:58what happened. I don't know what
35:00happened. I know better. Listen to me. I
35:04know better. I can help you, Grant, with
35:07honesty. I can help you with honesty. We
35:11think something else happened before you
35:12left the home that you're either afraid
35:15of or embarrassed to talk about, but we
35:19need to know exactly what happened cuz
35:21like Danny said, we can place you there
35:23at certain times. And so we need to know
35:26what happened before you left that house
35:28because you didn't leave with everything
35:30being okay.
35:32I I honestly I don't I don't have
35:35anything else that I can really say. I
35:37mean, I don't I don't know. Do you even
35:38know why law enforcement got involved?
35:42The detectives made it clear they didn't
35:45believe his story. They started asking
35:47their questions more directly, cutting
35:49through the small talk. But Amato kept
35:51pretending he didn't understand, still
35:54playing dumb. He had to know their
35:56patience was running out. And it was
35:58only a matter of time before the
35:59pressure got to him. Like that, but
36:02something happened Thursday unlike
36:04anything you've ever experienced in 29
36:06years of your life. And maybe you felt
36:08that was rock bottom for you. You were
36:09getting kicked out of the house. Your
36:11father gave you an ultimatum. I mean,
36:13that's, you know, you're already dealing
36:15with the the debt and, you know, now you
36:18have to stop talking to this girl and
36:20now you're being kicked out of the home.
36:22I mean, that's I I can understand how
36:25you would
36:27feel. I mean, that you'd want to lash
36:29out or, you know, if something happened,
36:32you'd want to defend yourself. Sure.
36:34Absolutely. But we need to know what
36:37happened.
36:38I mean, I know I can tell that you guys
36:40are like leading me into a certain way
36:43of what
36:45the only thing we're leading you to is
36:46wanting to get the truth from you. Not
36:48trying to make you say something that's
36:50not true, that's not accurate. The
36:52truth. The end. That's it. That's all we
36:56want is the absolute truth. Because it's
36:58got to come from you. It can't come from
37:00us. It can't come from us. Do we know
37:02what happened? Yeah, we we we already
37:05know what happened, but it has to still
37:07come from you, the truth, because the
37:09parties
37:10involved. That's in all cases, you want
37:13the truth from I don't want somebody to
37:14say something that's not true.
37:15Absolutely not. I want them to say,
37:19"This is what happened, and here's why
37:21it happened." Cuz some sometimes there
37:23are things that are justifiable. I'm
37:25dealing with a case right now where some
37:28people were were jumped in a house.
37:30there was a shooting and the people
37:32involved in the shooting are not going
37:33to be charged because they have the
37:35right to defend themselves. Nothing in
37:37the in in in the state or federal law
37:39says you have to be seriously physically
37:43harmed or or or or killed. Nothing does.
37:46You have a right to defend yourself.
37:48Absolutely. You have fear of your sure
37:51you being hurt or your life. But Grant,
37:54I just need you to come. It's It's
37:56there. It's there. I can see it. It's on
37:58the tip of your tongue. You want to say,
38:00"Let me tell you what what happened."
38:03I'm being honest. I think you're being
38:04honest about 95% of the story. I truly
38:07do believe you're being honest about
38:08that. I think it's that 5% as most
38:10people because they're afraid to
38:12actually talk to us and tell us their
38:13story. And sometimes we can help justify
38:16their story once they tell us the truth.
38:19It just it it's it's a fact. It happens.
38:21The detectives laid it all out. They
38:23told Amato the version of events they
38:25believed had really happened. And deep
38:27down, Amato knew they were on to him. He
38:30could tell they believed he was the
38:31killer. They tried to reassure him,
38:34saying he'd be protected and that he was
38:36safe with them. All they wanted was the
38:38truth, nothing more. A motto was
38:41starting to crack, and the detectives
38:43saw it. So, they kept the pressure on
38:45knowing he was close to breaking. You
38:47got to open up. You got to open up to
38:49me, man. I'm here. here to take that
38:52information from you to get you over
38:54this hump to to little piece in your
38:58mind. You'll never have peace without
39:01saying here, let me know. This is
39:04exactly what happened. And I already I
39:06already know. I'll be honest. You
39:07already know. This isn't my first rodeo.
39:09She's been doing We've been doing this
39:10what between the two of us 50 years.
39:13Over 50 years. Our age. Over 50 years.
39:16I've seen So what is it you need to tell
39:18us that we're missing? step over. I
39:22mean, the only thing that I know is just
39:25that I mean, I I uh left the house later
39:28than what I had
39:30said.
39:33Um, did you leave the house with your
39:36brother Cody looking like
39:39that or did you leave the house with
39:41your father looking like that or your
39:44mother? Is that how you left your
39:46family?
39:49No,
39:52nobody. Nobody else went into that
39:54house. Who left your family like this?
39:57If you were the one that's been
39:58depressed, you were the one that owes
39:59money, you were the one that got into a
40:01confrontation with your father, who did
40:02this to your
40:06family. If you were trying to defend
40:09yourself or something else happened, we
40:11need to know now to help
40:15you. So, tell us what happened, Grant.
40:20We're here to listen to you. You need
40:22the truth. We're We're here to make this
40:26right. You got to tell the truth. It's
40:28on the tip of your tongue, my man. I get
40:30that. Did your father go after you and
40:32you try to protect yourself? No, I
40:35didn't do any of this.
40:43there there's something that's going to
40:44come
40:45up that
40:48that is going to make this all come
40:51real. I'd rather it come from you than
40:55have to do it that way cuz the evidence
40:57tells us what happened. You have to fill
40:59in the blanks. They can't tell me what
41:01happened. Fact. Fact. I know she she
41:04never she never held a gun. She didn't
41:07have a gun that night. Fact. He never
41:10fired a gun. Fact. He never fired a gun.
41:13Never did. This is the person right
41:16here. Mom. The detectives hit him hard
41:19with the photos, turning up the pressure
41:22as Amato began to break down. He started
41:24talking about how his father would
41:26threaten to hurt him if he messed up
41:28again or tried to come back home, trying
41:30to make it sound like he acted in
41:32self-defense. But the reports tell a
41:34different story. There were no signs of
41:36any fights happening in the house when
41:38his family died.
41:41Okay.
41:43This this is the the last time before
41:44I'm going to walk out now and then I'm
41:45done and I'm done for good. When I'm
41:47done I'm done
41:48done. They won't be hey can I come back
41:50and talk to you. The minute I walk out
41:52that door with your story is where you
41:55stay at. That's your that's your lot in
41:57life. I am more than willing to sit here
41:59all day and all night if you want to to
42:01talk to find the facts. But I can't I
42:04told you from the beginning I will not
42:05deal with somebody that's not being
42:06truthful with me. You're not being
42:07truthful. You're not telling me the
42:09truth. You've lied and we've forgiven
42:11you over that. We forgive you over it.
42:14You can't lie about this, Grant. You
42:16can't. This is too important for your
42:18family of what has happened. There's not
42:21somebody There's not somebody out
42:23running around United States that killed
42:26them. There's not. There's no There's
42:28nobody out there some hidden killer.
42:31There's not.
42:35You don't show the the remorse that you
42:37should for someone who's who lost three
42:38family
42:39members. Body language, eyes, and
42:43demeanor. Grant was showing all the
42:45signs of someone who felt guilty. The
42:47detective told him what they believed
42:49had really happened. But instead of
42:51backing down, Grant only pushed harder
42:53with his story. The detective told him
42:55he needed to confess. There was no
42:58imaginary killer out there. It was time
43:00to face the truth.
43:03body language, eyes, and demeanor.
43:06Here's the time, man. I know it's tough.
43:08Tell the truth because when I walk out,
43:10there is no there's no another day. And
43:12it's going to look worse for you when we
43:14prove it by the DNA, the gunpowder, the
43:19blood spatter,
43:20fingerprints. Now is the time for you to
43:22be honest with us and is exactly what
43:24happened in that house before you
43:26left. We We'll be there for weeks
43:29gathering evidence. We are going to
43:31build the case because we're going to
43:32disprove the fact that nobody else came
43:34in this house. We already we already
43:36know that answer, but at some point we
43:38will build a case to the conclusion that
43:40nobody else
43:44will. And I just I don't have anything
43:46else that I can say.
44:02You know, my brother even said the same
44:03thing of
44:05like when all this financial stuff was
44:08happening like why I couldn't show like
44:12a like sadness towards
44:14it and
44:17uh I just don't know. I mean I don't
44:26I just don't know what else to say.
44:30Do you not feel bad for doing this to
44:31your family?
44:42I I don't I don't know. You don't know
44:45what? You don't know if you feel bad for
44:46doing this to your family.
44:49I mean, I've been getting blamed for the
44:51last half a year for everything. And
44:53I've been trying to move forward into a
44:56positive
44:57direction. And then every day I'm
44:59reminded of all the trouble that I had
45:03caused. And then I keep being told the
45:07same thing over and over again, but
45:08there's nothing that I can do to change
45:10it. Do you regret doing this to each one
45:13of your family members? I didn't do that
45:15to each one of them. When the detectives
45:18asked Amato if he felt bad about what
45:20happened, there was only silence. Then
45:23he said he was blamed for everything and
45:25reminded of it every single day. The
45:28reason behind it all was right there. In
45:30his mind, Amato saw himself as innocent.
45:33He felt pushed to the edge and probably
45:35thought he had no way out. His whole
45:37life, everything had been given to him.
45:40But once he was kicked out of the house,
45:41it felt like an injury he could never
45:43heal from.
45:46And I just I don't have anything else
45:47that I can
46:02say. You know, my brother even said the
46:04same thing of
46:06like when all this financial stuff was
46:09happening like why I couldn't show like
46:13a like sadness towards it.
46:16And
46:18uh I just don't know. I mean, I
46:25don't I just don't know what else to
46:30say. Do you not feel bad for doing this
46:32to your family?
46:43I I don't I don't know. You don't know
46:46what? You don't know if you feel bad for
46:47doing this to your family.
46:50I mean, I've been getting blamed for the
46:52last half a year for everything. And
46:54I've been trying to move forward into a
46:57positive
46:58direction. And then every day I'm
47:00reminded of all the trouble that I had
47:04caused. And then I keep being told the
47:08same thing over and over again, but
47:09there's nothing that I can do to change
47:11it. Do you regret doing this to each one
47:14of your family members? I didn't do that
47:16to each one of them.
47:21Who did? Who has such an axe to grind
47:24with your family that they shot him
47:26twice in the head, him in the head, and
47:28her? Who has it? Who? Here, you sit in
47:31my seat for a
47:33minute. Sit in my seat. Get out of here.
47:35Sit right here. Come here. Sit right
47:37here. Get out of that seat. Sit right
47:38there for me. Sit on it. Look at it.
47:40Look at it from from from our side. Look
47:43at it from our
47:45side. Think of it from what the way we
47:47look at it. Independent. What are we
47:50here for? One thing. The blindfolded
47:53ladies with justice. Justice. All we're
47:55here for. Justice. Look at it. Who has a
48:00motive? Who has a motive to hurt your
48:02family?
48:04You could say Jason, but we already know
48:06where Jason was. I can account for every
48:08bit of of Jason's
48:11activity. Every bit of it. Jason gave a
48:14statement. He What's the first thing we
48:15looked at? Is Jason telling the truth?
48:18Can we verify what he told us? And in
48:21quick succession, we did. He said, "I
48:23was XXX." Yep. He sure was.
48:29And we know exactly when Cody left work.
48:33and know when Cody got home and know
48:35when Cody stopped answering his
48:40phone and know when bills were
48:43paid and knows when vehicles left and
48:47know when they when phones tagged
48:53hotspots. Know it all. Know every bit of
48:56it. Now it's time for you to admit to
48:59what you know cuz you're saying I didn't
49:01do something. I don't know
49:04something. It's an easy easy thing to
49:06say to yourself, but you can't say it to
49:09us
49:12because facts and evidence don't lie.
49:16I've done everything I can do to get to
49:19the bottom in the
49:20truth,
49:22and we're not getting
49:25there. But I promise you down the down
49:28at some point, the facts will get there.
49:32And then you're going to ask, "Hey, can
49:33I talk to you and tell you what
49:35happened?" And the answer is
49:37no. After it's after we walk out of the
49:40room, like I said, when it's done, there
49:42is not a second chance. There's only
49:44there's one time to make a first
49:46impression. Heard that one before. This
49:48is it. I believe you're not a bad guy. I
49:52do. I believe you want to tell us what
49:54happened. And there's a reason this got
49:56so bad. There's a reason.
50:00They're all safe.
50:32I mean, I just I don't have anything
50:34else that I can
50:36say. I mean, I don't I don't have the
50:38answers
50:40that you can say or want to say that I
50:42can say. I mean, I don't I don't know. I
50:45don't I I know from sitting over here
50:49what it looks like. I mean, it's just
50:51like when I was accused of the whole
50:53grand theft thing and then it's, you
50:55know, everything from security cameras
50:58and all this other stuff are saying
50:59this, that, and the other, but then
51:00there's nothing that showed that I had
51:03done anything
51:07wrong. And I just I don't know what else
51:10I can say.
51:13[Music]
51:20So what they accused you of you didn't
51:22do.
51:36Grand two things that happened here
51:39today. Two
51:41things. You're a guy swimming out in the
51:44middle of the ocean and we're going to
51:45give you one of two things based on
51:47based on you. You can have a life
51:49preserver to keep to keep from drowning
51:52or you get the boat
51:56anchor. Which one do you
51:59want? Cuz we will give you whichever one
52:01you asked for. The life preserver, the
52:04boater.
52:07No, I want the life preserver that I've
52:08said everything that I can. You You want
52:10it and I I believe you do, but you have
52:13not said everything you can say. Be
52:16careful of locking yourself into
52:17something because just like this, you've
52:19locked yourself into I was down for
52:22Christmas. That's where me and Cody met,
52:24which we've proven to be a lie. We We
52:27already knew that. We already knew that
52:28wasn't true. But I'm going to let you
52:29say it. I'm going to let you say what
52:33you want to about being honest in
52:35here. And then at some point, we will
52:38pick that apart of why you're not honest
52:41and what physical evidence shows to be.
52:45what physical evidence shows to
52:52me. You want to be honest. This is this
52:54is the time right now to be honest. You
52:57see, if I can say what you you're saying
52:59what you want to say to me right now,
53:01just like you wanted me to believe that
53:03you were down on Fort Christmas down the
53:04road with Cody, that you wanted to.
53:07That's what you wanted me to believe.
53:09And there's a reason you were being
53:10deceptive to me. Because it doesn't
53:12matter where you met him and had this
53:13conversation. If you lie about something
53:15small, you lie about something
53:17big. You're being deceptive over
53:20something that doesn't matter if you met
53:22him down the road or not. There's no
53:23reason to lie about where you met him
53:26at. This is it. Your one chance in the
53:30rest of your life to be honest about
53:32this right here. You say, "I've told you
53:34what I can tell you. You told me what
53:36you want me to know just like you told
53:38me what you wanted me to know about
53:39that." and for Eva to know what you want
53:41to know about that. But it's not it's
53:43not
53:44true. Just like you want to tell me what
53:47you want me to know about
53:52this. I get this. I get that. I don't
53:57get that. I don't get that. I don't get
54:00it. I
54:04don't one I get. I
54:07understand. She didn't bully you. She
54:09didn't belittle you. She didn't run you
54:11into the ground. Nor did we. I don't get
54:16it. But this is it. Cuz you're just
54:19about I've kind of got a number in my
54:21mind that I'm going to get up and I'm
54:22going to walk out and we'll take our
54:24stuff and be on our way and you're going
54:25to go the way you
54:26go. But there will be a time where you
54:29ask for that life preserver. I can't
54:33give it to you. I can't. Once I cross
54:36once I cross the line, I got to step
54:38over. Can't do it. Won't do
54:44it. Think think about
54:46that. I want to talk to her for a
54:48minute. Think think about the the the
54:50the
54:52last life preserve I can give
54:55you. Think about it. Take a few minutes
54:58just to to reflect on it and then we'll
55:01come back to you in a couple of minutes
55:02and then we'll go from there. And what
55:04happens is what happens. Fair enough.
55:10[Applause]
1:05:48You all right, man? You
1:05:51okay? Need some food, some water? All
1:05:55right. You good? You good to stay for a
1:05:57while longer? You okay?
1:05:59I mean, I just I just don't have
1:06:01anything more that I can say. Fine.
1:06:03Okay.
1:06:05I'm not keeping you. If you want to
1:06:06stay, we'll I'll talk to you till
1:06:08whatever till you're you're happy with
1:06:10with everything and you're okay.
1:06:14[Music]
1:06:16Um, you're not detained. You're not
1:06:18being kept
1:06:20here. You're here. You're here
1:06:22willingly. Remember we talked about
1:06:24that? You're still Look at me. You're
1:06:26still You're still here voluntarily. I'm
1:06:29not I'm not detaining you. I'm not
1:06:31keeping here. I said you want to walk
1:06:33out and take a break, catch a breath,
1:06:36get something to eat. If you want
1:06:37something to eat, we've been here for
1:06:38for a while. If you want something to
1:06:40eat, I'll be more than happy to get you
1:06:41some food, whatever you want. We'll send
1:06:42somebody to go get it or whatever you
1:06:44want to do. It's it's totally up to you
1:06:46of of I said you're voluntarily here.
1:06:53I mean, I just I don't I don't know what
1:06:55the
1:06:58I will I will stay here and talk to you
1:07:00until you get everything off your chest
1:07:01as as long as you want to. The
1:07:03detectives stepped out of the room and
1:07:05asked if Amato needed anything. The
1:07:07interrogation was basically over. They
1:07:09already knew who did it. Now all they
1:07:11needed was his confession. They reminded
1:07:14him he was free to leave. Amato said he
1:07:17didn't want to be there, but just wanted
1:07:19it all to be over. After a while,
1:07:21nothing happened. He went to change his
1:07:24clothes and then his older brother
1:07:26showed up. The brother lived on his own
1:07:27and wasn't at the house when the murders
1:07:29happened.
1:07:51All right. So, uh I I take it you know
1:07:53what happened. Yeah.
1:08:00I just I'm going to ask you plain out.
1:08:02You are not part of it anyway. No.
1:08:05How when's the last time you sold
1:08:08everybody?
1:08:09I left the house between like uh
1:08:12midnight and like 12:30
1:08:15on Thursday night. So Friday morning
1:08:17going in the front.
1:08:20Why? Just did that's when you went to a
1:08:22hotel? No. No. The first night I uh I
1:08:26stayed just in the public's parking lot
1:08:28by the tractor supply. Okay. And why did
1:08:32you leave though? It's cuz dad had
1:08:34kicked me out Thursday because I was
1:08:38still talking to the woman that had
1:08:40caused everything and I was uh using
1:08:43mom's cell phone to do that with her
1:08:45knowledge but uh no not uh Cody or
1:08:50dad's. So then dad found out somehow
1:08:54uh and that was one of the things that
1:08:56he had said would lead to
1:08:59my being removed from the premises.
1:09:04So he forced you, he basically told you
1:09:07you had to leave. Yeah.
1:09:15Okay. So, who could have done this?
1:09:20I don't So, you didn't have any problems
1:09:22or troubles with this woman or the
1:09:24online? You didn't owe them any money? I
1:09:26mean, there's no like lone shark out
1:09:28looking for you or
1:09:30I just don't see
1:09:34how things aren't adding up. I
1:09:38just I'm really confused,
1:09:43Grant. I don't understand. How did you
1:09:46get money to pay for a hotel? I still
1:09:49had a few hundred on my debit card and
1:09:53then Cody uh gave me his debit card.
1:09:58Okay. And
1:10:02even his own brother didn't believe him.
1:10:05Judging by his reaction, he was crushed.
1:10:07It's a heartbreaking moment knowing that
1:10:10your youngest brother did the
1:10:11unthinkable and took away your family.
1:10:13Yet, you still don't feel hatred toward
1:10:15him. The family was gone and the
1:10:18youngest brother who killed them would
1:10:20spend the rest of his life in prison. At
1:10:22the trial, Amato kept saying he was
1:10:24innocent, but he was found guilty on all
1:10:26three murder charges. At the end, he
1:10:29said something that stuck with everyone.
1:10:31My family blamed me for months for
1:10:33ruining their lives and stealing.

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