Living the Change: Inspiring Stories for a Sustainable Future (Free Full Documentary) — Transcript
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- 0:00Hey everyone, Jordan and Antoinette here.
- 0:02It's Happen Films' 7th birthday so to celebrate we're releasing our pay-to-view feature film "Living the Change" for free.
- 0:08We hope you're inspired by the stories featured in the film. If you'd like to support us in making more films
- 0:13you can purchase a copy of "Living the Change", without this intro message or any ads, from our website happenfilms.com
- 0:19If you'd like to share the film with your community you can also purchase a screening licence.
- 0:24We also have a heap of other films available on our website all about permaculture, sustainability and living more simply, so be sure to check those out as well.
- 0:32Hope you enjoy the film!
- 0:35(somber music)
- 0:51(cars honking)
- 1:00- The current system has to go through a collapse
- 1:02unless you believe that infinite growth is possible
- 1:04on a finite planet.
- 1:06The system is growth dependent.
- 1:08So, there's gonna be a collapse in one form or another.
- 1:14- If you just look at what's happening
- 1:15in terms of deforestation, resource over-consumption,
- 1:21waste streams, and climate change,
- 1:23I mean, these are all phenomena
- 1:25that are brought about by our over-consumption,
- 1:28over-exploitation of resources.
- 1:38- We have to leave 80% at least of the fossil fuel
- 1:43that we know about and that we know we could make money
- 1:46digging up, we have to leave it in the ground
- 1:48for the entire century at least.
- 1:52- [Charles] The ecological crisis comes
- 1:54from treating the Earth as an other,
- 1:58as just a bunch of stuff.
- 2:01- We've been so powerful and we've impacted on so much
- 2:04of the wild world around us that if we don't do something
- 2:08fairly soon, the wild world is going to consume us.
- 2:16- These are the massive issues, climate change,
- 2:19energy, and food, all of these things
- 2:21that are converging on us and yet you pick up the paper
- 2:25every day and there'll be nothing about this stuff.
- 2:29- If you look at our global economic system,
- 2:31I guess you'd have to first think of it
- 2:33as a system by accident.
- 2:35Nobody sat down and designed this thing.
- 2:38And, in a lot of ways, it's sort of the worst
- 2:40of all possible combinations.
- 2:42Because what you have is something
- 2:45that is supposed to be based in the real world
- 2:48but behaves as if it were in a fantasy world.
- 2:52- That's really exploitive, extractive, damaging,
- 2:57not only to people, but to the environment
- 3:01and to the economy too.
- 3:03(crickets chirping)
- 3:09I think we're heading for some very deep water
- 3:13if we don't make these changes.
- 3:17- Being sustainable is not just a nice thing to do.
- 3:21Being unsustainable isn't just a bit unfortunate.
- 3:24It is a existential threat to our species.
- 3:28People don't seem to get that.
- 3:30We actually need to do something about it or we're gone.
- 3:35- You've probably had those moments of despair
- 3:37where you think it's just hopeless and the world
- 3:39is always gonna be this way and anything we do
- 3:41is not enough, but there's also and I would say
- 3:45that this is maybe more of a heart knowing
- 3:48that understands that a more beautiful world is possible.
- 3:51(moving to gentle music)
- 4:10(water gurgling)
- 4:20(birds chirping)
- 4:21(gentle music)
- 4:41(moving to lively music)
- 5:11(fast-paced somber music)
- 5:20The world is built on stories
- 5:23or even a story, a mythology.
- 5:26Every culture has a mythology
- 5:28that answers the deep questions like who am I,
- 5:32what is a self, what's real, how does change happen,
- 5:37what's the nature of reality?
- 5:42Every culture answers that in a different way
- 5:45and the answers that our culture has,
- 5:49and when I say our culture, I mean the dominant culture
- 5:51of this planet, the answers that have worked
- 5:54and guided our culture for several hundred years now,
- 5:57and to some extent thousands of years,
- 5:59aren't working anymore.
- 6:01We're facing a crisis in our basic way of making meaning
- 6:05about the world and our understanding
- 6:08of the recipe for living life, like all of these things
- 6:11are in a state of crisis.
- 6:22- The problems that we face
- 6:24in terms of environmental condition, degradation,
- 6:27over-consumption of resources,
- 6:30a lot of social justice problems really pretty much
- 6:33all stem from a common cause and that's economics.
- 6:39The biggest problem it has right now for us,
- 6:41the biggest implication it has for humans
- 6:43and pretty much everything else on the planet
- 6:46is that it's causing a lot of unsustainable growth.
- 6:49It's causing growth to accelerate in a way
- 6:52that cannot be met by the natural resources or sinks
- 6:57on the planet we inhabit.
- 7:02- The money system demands endless growth.
- 7:05It compels endless growth, it encourages endless growth.
- 7:08So, in other words, it encourages the conversion
- 7:11of nature into property, into products.
- 7:18- Now, the problem with this growth, of course,
- 7:20is that if the economy keeps growing, sooner or later
- 7:24it needs natural resources to support that growth.
- 7:28(explosives booming)
- 7:36(clanking music)
- 7:39- One of the big flaws
- 7:40in the current money system is interest.
- 7:43We would probably only need to work half of the hours
- 7:46that we do and still be able to maintain
- 7:51the same standard of living if it wasn't for interest.
- 7:56Interest is hidden in so many ways.
- 8:01The price of any goods and services,
- 8:04most businesses have loans
- 8:09on which they're paying interest.
- 8:11And, they don't pay the interest, you do, I do.
- 8:17And, so that means that we have to work and work and work
- 8:21and exploit Mother Nature as well in the process
- 8:27way more than would be necessary if it wasn't for interest.
- 8:31(fast-paced somber music)
- 8:39- For a lot of the things to keep running,
- 8:41to keep the finance engine ticking along
- 8:44and keep economies moving, we have to have
- 8:46lots and lots of energy.
- 8:59Energy for extracting natural resources,
- 9:02energy for shipping things around the world,
- 9:04energy for manufacturing, energy to promote them,
- 9:08energy to keep them going, energy to maintain things,
- 9:10so it's a lot of energy used in the system.
- 9:19- Fossil fuel energy is energy from the sun
- 9:22that's being stored in plants or other living things
- 9:25and has been stored under the ground usually
- 9:28for millions and millions of years.
- 9:30When you dig it up you get a free bonus basically.
- 9:33You get this amazing wealth of energy
- 9:36which you can do all kinds of creative
- 9:38and amazing things with.
- 9:39But, the problem is that when it runs out,
- 9:42that's it, it's gone.
- 9:46The other aspect of that, of course, is the process
- 9:48of getting it and digging it up is both destructive
- 9:51and also expensive and requires energy to do.
- 10:13- Peak oil is a concept that is quite simple.
- 10:18What it means is that you have a finite amount of something
- 10:22and if you consume it at a steady rate,
- 10:26then there kind of isn't a peak, you just consume it.
- 10:30But, if you consume it with a increasing rate,
- 10:33then you'll hit a point where you can't increase anymore
- 10:36and that would be a peak.
- 10:37And, then the consumption would necessarily drop off
- 10:39in some way.
- 10:40(somber rhythmic music)
- 10:44- The energy return on investment from fossil fuels
- 10:47when we first discovered it was so big
- 10:49and that's why we have the abundance that we have now.
- 10:53It's just that free energy.
- 10:54And, we've been having this crazy party, you know,
- 10:57for a hundred years now on fossil fuels.
- 10:59It's just a crazy binge that we've been on
- 11:01and we're at the end of the binge now
- 11:03because the energy return on investment
- 11:06is dwindling all the time.
- 11:11It's how our food system works.
- 11:13We talk about this green revolution
- 11:15that fed all these people
- 11:16but it's not a green revolution,
- 11:18it's an oil revolution.
- 11:22- The entire system is hugely dependent
- 11:26on fossil fuel inputs.
- 11:28You pull those out and I guarantee you
- 11:30within days the whole thing is gonna fall down.
- 11:38- If you take into account fossil fuels and the transport,
- 11:41the tilling, everything, the packaging, the movement,
- 11:44the whole food system that we have in the developed world,
- 11:49so-called developed world, then there's at least
- 11:5310 units of energy for every one we get out of it.
- 11:57- Basing a food production system
- 11:59that's meant to feed the world on something
- 12:02which is temporary brings obvious problems.
- 12:08As a result of that, is the huge loss of biodiversity
- 12:12and while not a lot of people care about bugs
- 12:16and all this other stuff, biodiversity is critical.
- 12:22So, when you strip that away by having what we call
- 12:25monocultures, then you get massive problems.
- 12:29With monocultures we are talking about growing one crop
- 12:32or farming one animal or,
- 12:35and you don't see that in nature.
- 12:37Nature doesn't work that way.
- 12:38It's evolved diversity for resilience.
- 12:44When you take that away, these systems become really brittle
- 12:48and they're very prone to breaking.
- 12:51Now, we kind of stave off the worst of those effects,
- 12:55well, we try to, with fossil fuel inputs.
- 12:58We put in fertilizers, we put in herbicides,
- 13:01fungicides, pesticides, we go to great lengths
- 13:04to try and protect these very fragile
- 13:06food production systems.
- 13:09(somber music)
- 13:16I think what a lot of people don't realize
- 13:17is that our food system is incredibly vulnerable.
- 13:23We do a pretty good job most of the time
- 13:25of getting food where it needs to go,
- 13:29managing supplies, managing surplus, transportation,
- 13:33all that sort of stuff.
- 13:34But, it is quite vulnerable to major upsets,
- 13:39all kinds of crises particularly economic crises.
- 13:45If the shops, the supermarkets stop selling food
- 13:48for three days for some reason,
- 13:51how would you survive?
- 13:55What would that be like?
- 13:56How would that feel and what would you do?
- 14:00You know, it's happened to me in a major city
- 14:04just one day and it really made me think.
- 14:07You begin to realize that there's a series of things
- 14:10that all need to be in place and all need to be functioning
- 14:12properly all the time for things to run smoothly.
- 14:18In a world of increasing climate volatility
- 14:23and the economic pressures that that can bring,
- 14:27it's really easy to see how a bad situation could develop.
- 14:32- So, this is the kind of scary reality
- 14:35and it's coming fast.
- 14:37So, unless we really, really quickly change our food system
- 14:41and how we do it, then there's gonna be huge impacts
- 14:45on humans let alone the other animals on the planet.
- 14:53- To a certain extent people who really do understand
- 14:57the problem of climate change and resources and equity,
- 15:02it's really easy to get focused
- 15:04on the miracle technology solution to that
- 15:06'cause that's what we do.
- 15:08That's what society's asking us to do.
- 15:13- I think if technology could have solved
- 15:15all of our problems, then it would've already
- 15:17solved all of our problems.
- 15:19Theoretically we have all the technology we need
- 15:22to live beautifully on Earth
- 15:24and beautifully with each other but we have not
- 15:28lived beautifully on Earth and beautifully with each other.
- 15:31So, something else has to happen.
- 15:33(somber rhythmic music)
- 15:56- 100 years from now, every solar panel we build
- 15:59will be rubbish.
- 16:00It'll be toxic waste, in fact (chuckles) somewhere.
- 16:03I hope somebody figures out what to do with it.
- 16:06Every windmill we build now won't be running anymore.
- 16:10It'll be, hopefully a lot of it will be recycled.
- 16:12I don't know.
- 16:14But, the carbon we put in the air will still be there.
- 16:19You're never gonna have air travel with renewables,
- 16:22you're never gonna have steel with renewables.
- 16:25You're never gonna have electronics with renewables
- 16:28'cause you need diesel.
- 16:30So, making sure that you leave some diesel for later
- 16:35is kind of important.
- 16:39I'm not disillusioned
- 16:42with solar or wind or anything.
- 16:46I know that the substitution of those things
- 16:49for fossil fuels isn't possible.
- 16:52So, as long as we keep telling ourselves the story
- 16:54that it is, we aren't actually doing the thing we have to do
- 16:57which is to just leave the stuff in the ground.
- 16:59Which means what?
- 17:00There's only one thing you can do then
- 17:01which is to use less of it.
- 17:07If there's an industrial civilization out there
- 17:10couple centuries from now, then they're using fossil fuel.
- 17:16Tiny amounts of it.
- 17:18And, they're using renewable energy.
- 17:20And, that renewable energy they are using
- 17:22is hydro and geothermal.
- 17:27And, wood that they are harvesting and husbanding
- 17:31very, very carefully, all right?
- 17:33And, what we notice most about them
- 17:35is how little they're using of most everything.
- 17:42That's what has to happen.
- 17:44It doesn't matter how many solar panels
- 17:45you ever put on anything.
- 17:47The only thing that matters
- 17:48is leaving the coal in the ground,
- 17:50leaving the oil in the ground,
- 17:51leaving the gas in the ground, all of it
- 17:54and planting back every bit of forest
- 17:56that you possibly can.
- 17:57That's the only thing that matters.
- 18:13- The history of civilization has been kind of
- 18:17like a history of increasing power
- 18:21to dominate and control the other, the cultural other
- 18:25and also the natural other.
- 18:27(dynamic music)
- 19:06And, this was supposed to bring us into utopia.
- 19:09We were supposed to live in paradise by now.
- 19:12Paradise of electrified comfort, robot servants,
- 19:15space colonies, artificial food, infinite lifespans,
- 19:18et cetera, et cetera.
- 19:20The breakdown that's happening today
- 19:22in part is happening because this glorious promise
- 19:26of technology and also social engineering
- 19:29was never fulfilled.
- 19:32And, in fact, things are getting worse and worse.
- 19:33And, in fact, our technologies of control
- 19:37now look to be seeding our destruction,
- 19:42the breakdown of the ecological basis of civilization.
- 19:47(somber music)
- 19:58We don't know anymore what the answer is.
- 20:01We don't know who we are.
- 20:03We don't even know what's real because on every level
- 20:06the story that answered those questions is breaking down,
- 20:11politically, economically, and especially, technologically,
- 20:15and in our relationship to nature.
- 20:17So, that leaves us not knowing and it leaves us open
- 20:22to another story.
- 20:32(somber music)
- 20:48(moving to upbeat music)
- 21:05- If we wanna solve health crisis,
- 21:09food quality issues, economic issues,
- 21:14we really have to change the system
- 21:18and the infrastructure of the system and we have to create
- 21:20our own infrastructure.
- 21:32I've been studying sustainable farming systems
- 21:35for over 25 years.
- 21:37There are no real issues.
- 21:39We can solve all of them.
- 21:41There are really easy answers to grow food quality
- 21:46and do that with good environmental care.
- 21:49That's the easy bit.
- 21:53We are in the position to do it properly
- 21:57because of the CSA.
- 21:59Our members allow us to create that diversity.
- 22:03That other old system doesn't allow you
- 22:06to create that diversity.
- 22:10- CSA stands for Community Supported Agriculture.
- 22:16It means that a farmer that's growing food
- 22:21and growing food there's a lot of unknowns in there
- 22:25and you have to start at the beginning of the season
- 22:27and you don't know for whatever reason
- 22:30if you're gonna harvest all the things
- 22:32that you've planned to harvest
- 22:34that you've started sowing months back.
- 22:41So, the idea's that a group of people support the farmer
- 22:44so the farmer knows he's got an outlet.
- 22:48And, the members that we have, they know that every week
- 22:52they're gonna get a box of healthy fresh foods
- 22:55that have been harvested just before they got them.
- 23:02For us it means we have stability in the fact
- 23:04that the plants we sow they are sold.
- 23:08We don't have the issue of food waste
- 23:12because if a broccoli is small
- 23:14and it normally wouldn't be able to go to a supermarket,
- 23:17we can give people two.
- 23:26- As a farmer, you wanna create healthy soils
- 23:29and healthy plants and healthy animals
- 23:31and further up the food chain,
- 23:33you make sure that you create a soil that invites
- 23:38the right sets of microbes.
- 23:45That for us means we have soil,
- 23:49which is the mineral component.
- 23:51In the soil we've got the microorganisms
- 23:53which are governing the system.
- 23:55We just create a habitat for them.
- 23:58Then you got the plants growing out of there
- 24:00be it annuals, perennials, and trees.
- 24:09Then amongst that you've got the insects living in there
- 24:11and then we've incorporated pigs, sheep, cows,
- 24:17ducks, geese, and I'm sure we're forgetting
- 24:21a few bits and bobs.
- 24:23And, every single item adds value.
- 24:33- So, on the closed-loop systems, they would have tree crops
- 24:37and all that, nuts, fruit, all that kind of thing happening
- 24:40on the fringes or in shelter belts,
- 24:46a whole really diverse approach to farming
- 24:49that is way more sustainable but also it closes
- 24:53that nitrogen or that fertilizer loop
- 24:56so you don't have to bring it in from the outside.
- 24:58You just don't waste it.
- 25:11- While eating less meat is a really important thing to do,
- 25:15it's important to recognize that you can't have
- 25:18a healthy ecosystem without animals.
- 25:20A truly environmentally friendly and ecologically healthy
- 25:25food production system must have animals.
- 25:28'Cause as soon as you take animals out of that system,
- 25:31all the jobs that those animals did
- 25:33in that functioning ecosystem, now needs to be done
- 25:35some other way whether that's by people or chemicals.
- 25:41The health of these food production systems
- 25:44is supported by the natural and healthy interaction
- 25:48between plants and animals.
- 25:51And, that can take the form of pest control,
- 25:54fertility cycles, there's lots of interactions
- 25:59between animals and plants which we can and should use
- 26:03to support a healthy and resilient food production system.
- 26:10So, really what that boils down to is
- 26:12we need to eat less meat.
- 26:14We don't cut it out.
- 26:16But, the best thing that anyone can do
- 26:18is try and find producers that are operating systems
- 26:23which are looking after the health of their environment
- 26:25including the animals and supporting them.
- 26:28(eerie music)
- 26:42(upbeat music)
- 26:52- What comes out the back end of a worm
- 26:54is really good stuff.
- 26:56And, then that's just really cool just seeing
- 26:58that this hivey of fungus
- 27:02and it's just growing on the surface of the soil.
- 27:13So, holistic grazing is a management technique
- 27:16that being devised by a Zimbabwean man, Allan Savory.
- 27:19And, he was observing the large herds of buffalo
- 27:23in Africa, and it can be bison in America
- 27:25and just massive herds of ruminant animals.
- 27:29And, these animals were constantly on the move
- 27:32'cause there's generally some lions or something
- 27:34just on their back and wanting to pick off
- 27:37any of the weak ones.
- 27:41We have large mobs of cattle that are shifted every day
- 27:44but instead of lions keeping them bunched together,
- 27:47we have electric fences.
- 27:50And, each day they're going onto fresh grass.
- 27:53And, it's long grass and so they're not eating it all.
- 27:55Some of it's getting trampled and with the dung
- 27:57and urine and that, it's just all forming
- 28:00that kind of compost heap on the ground.
- 28:06Other farmers might be looking at us and saying,
- 28:07we'll you're just wasting all that grass
- 28:10'cause it gets dry and stalky and what have you.
- 28:12But, you know, my reply is that waste is a human concept.
- 28:16Nature doesn't do waste.
- 28:18And, so we are using that thatched pasture
- 28:21as part of our first fertilizer program
- 28:23because that's what's getting put down on the soil
- 28:25and broken down and going back into building soil.
- 28:36When the grass is grazed and to the holistic
- 28:39long grass grazing system, it gets cut off short
- 28:41by the animal and it also sheds its roots at that time.
- 28:46And, that's what is releasing carbon into the soil.
- 28:51And, I guess one of the most exciting things
- 28:52and drivers of what we're doing is the potential
- 28:55that that has for helping with climate change issues.
- 29:00(cows mooing)
- 29:04Some of those CAFOs that they call 'em in America,
- 29:07or the feedlot, cattle fattening operations,
- 29:10are a climate disaster.
- 29:12But, again under this system, they are sequestering
- 29:16more carbon and are part of a natural cycle
- 29:18that is actually beneficial.
- 29:25Conventionally farmers it's all
- 29:27about keeping the grass short and in a vegetative state
- 29:30so it's growing vigorously and that system works
- 29:33while you're putting on lots of imported fertilizers
- 29:36particularly phosphate fertilizers largely
- 29:38from North Africa and a whole system that requires
- 29:41digging up that fertilizer and trucking it,
- 29:43and then shipping it, and then trucking it,
- 29:45and then processing it, and then flying it onto hills.
- 29:47It's a system that's not gonna work in a future
- 29:51with less fossil fuels.
- 30:00What we're doing on the farm here is trying to reduce
- 30:02the amount of fossil fuels that it takes to produce food.
- 30:07We've got the cattle going around.
- 30:09We have, you know, hens following along behind the cattle.
- 30:12There's pigs on this farm too.
- 30:14And, we're milking a few dairy cows.
- 30:16And, all that is really
- 30:18about using a perennial crop
- 30:22like grass pasture with forage from trees
- 30:25and that around as well.
- 30:26So, we can produce eggs from the chocks, hens, pork,
- 30:30you know, without relying on so much of the annual grains
- 30:35and all the energy that's involved in producing them.
- 30:37So, just trying to get the fossil fuels
- 30:40out of our food system as much as we can
- 30:43and producing healthy natural food.
- 30:52- The powerful thing is that with regenerative agriculture,
- 30:55we can not only produce food and we can not only
- 30:57produce an abundance of food, but we can do it
- 31:00in a way that regenerates the land,
- 31:03that replenishes the aquifers, that sequesters carbon,
- 31:06that nurtures and supports biodiversity.
- 31:11Regenerative agriculture, permaculture, holistic management,
- 31:15there's nothing magical about the way
- 31:17that these things work.
- 31:18It's all based upon sound science and about having
- 31:22a point of view that is looking at your ecosystem
- 31:26in its entirety, not just individual aspects of it.
- 31:30So, really what this breaks down to is that anyone
- 31:34who's looking after land, whether you're a farmer
- 31:36or a gardener, whatever, you're an ecosystem manager.
- 31:40(gentle music) (water gurgling)
- 32:02- My philosophy about what to do in the world
- 32:05isn't go to a pristine area
- 32:08and live there and enjoy your life.
- 32:10It's to find a place that's degraded and fix it up.
- 32:20- 23 years ago we started developing the food
- 32:22for our system here.
- 32:25We've got 480 different species of plants at last count.
- 32:29That doesn't include the 80 different types of apples
- 32:31and the 60 different types of gooseberries.
- 32:34And, so it's lovely to have that diversity
- 32:36and it means that every time of the year
- 32:38there's things flowering, things giving fruit, you know,
- 32:41great crops you can eat.
- 32:43And, so having diversity is special and it's what makes
- 32:45the forest garden resilient.
- 32:52This property had been abandoned for probably 40 years.
- 32:56No one lived here.
- 32:57An old house had burnt down on the spot.
- 33:02- In the top area, this area where the house is now
- 33:05was completely covered in junk
- 33:08and the remains of the old house.
- 33:11Most people would've not even crossed the threshold
- 33:14of the property to have a look at it I don't think
- 33:16because it didn't look very appealing.
- 33:18But, to us it did.
- 33:20Because I thought, well, for one thing nobody wants it
- 33:23so it's probably going to be cheap and it was,
- 33:26cheap to buy, and secondly, I thought, I can fix this.
- 33:29(gentle upbeat music)
- 33:33- The food forest is a permanent planting.
- 33:36So, you want to set up just like a forest system.
- 33:39So, a forest system can be the, always the big trees,
- 33:42the middle size trees, and the bottom layer,
- 33:44the ground layer, they work together.
- 33:47Some plants take up some minerals and give others back
- 33:49and other one does something else.
- 33:54- Growing out in the forest garden there,
- 33:56aside from the native trees, which I've used as a framework
- 34:00or a platform for building everything else,
- 34:02and those provide me with shelter from the wind,
- 34:05and also nest sites for the birds.
- 34:07And, the birds are a really important player
- 34:10in the management of the garden
- 34:11in the ti kouka, cabbage trees,
- 34:14that I've got growing there.
- 34:16Starlings nest in almost all of them and those starlings
- 34:19as they're feeding their yunkers, their babies,
- 34:22are flying out and finding any soft-bodied caterpillar
- 34:25or grub they can so there's our pest management
- 34:28for that kind of thing.
- 34:31And, then as an understory or the second layer down
- 34:34to that we have our fruit tree layer
- 34:36which is our heritage apples and pears and plums
- 34:38and nectarines and peaches, apricots.
- 34:43And, then below that a layer of berry fruits
- 34:47and currants, red currants, black currants,
- 34:50white currants, and gooseberries, worcesterberries,
- 34:53all of those sorts of shrubby plants
- 34:57that like to grow in the semi-shade.
- 35:01And, then wrapping around all of that are the biennial
- 35:05and perennial herbs, some of which are edible,
- 35:07some of which are medicinal.
- 35:09And, then below that there are bulbs and root crops
- 35:13that grow, such as parsnips and wild carrots,
- 35:18those kinds of things.
- 35:20And, then winding their way up through these things
- 35:22are our vines like grape vines and kiwi fruit
- 35:25and Manchurian gooseberries and hops
- 35:28and all sorts of things which kind of bind everything
- 35:31together and tie the forest together.
- 35:35(upbeat music)
- 35:40- It's so peaceful when you walk about
- 35:42and it's just all different flowers
- 35:44and the energy and action and all the insects
- 35:46and the birds have their own life.
- 35:48And, so the birds are doing all their thing
- 35:49up in the trees and coming down to feeding
- 35:51and insects are flying around and having babies
- 35:54and flying off on missions.
- 35:55It's like being in another universe really.
- 35:59It's just amazing and it's, to me, it's how life should be,
- 36:01with that livingness and the interconnectedness
- 36:04of all the plants and bees and the herbs.
- 36:09- In a forest garden like ours,
- 36:11the major player is wildness, is, you know,
- 36:15the natural world and all of those things
- 36:17that happen in there.
- 36:18And, my job is just to kind of mold that
- 36:21to suit our purposes to a certain extent.
- 36:27We are not separate from the wild world.
- 36:30We are as wild as it is.
- 36:34But, we've worked towards a form
- 36:36that is not fitting in with the wild world at all well.
- 36:40And, it's going to realign us fairly soon, in my view,
- 36:45unless we can recognize that we need to be fully integrated
- 36:50into that world.
- 37:03- People in indigenous societies, in tribal societies
- 37:06or in agrarian villages, they were enmeshed
- 37:11in a matrix of relationship
- 37:14that gave them a strong identity.
- 37:16Everybody who they saw on a daily basis
- 37:18knew them really well.
- 37:20(gentle music)
- 37:23And, we also were in intimate connection with the land.
- 37:27We knew every plant, we knew every animal, every bird,
- 37:30we knew its song and when it sang and what bugs it ate
- 37:33and where those bugs lived and what the soil smells like
- 37:36where the bugs live and what plants grow there
- 37:38and what medicine the plants are used for.
- 37:40We were in this web of interbeing.
- 37:45We felt as if we were at home in the universe.
- 37:49That is missing in our current society.
- 37:52We're surrounded by a sea of strangers,
- 37:55people that we know only very superficially, if at all.
- 38:06(lively spiritual music)
- 38:11- For Maori people, the ancestors and the land
- 38:14are all part of one, we come from the land.
- 38:17And most people, humans on the planet relate to land
- 38:22one way or another because they belong to it.
- 38:24And, they've forged their own identity out of it as well.
- 38:27And, that'll always continue to happen.
- 38:32It's like a biological bond between a mother and her child.
- 38:35You can't break it.
- 38:37That bond is in force when the genealogy of the ancestors,
- 38:41of the families, grandparents, is emotionally installed
- 38:46in that person that they feel that they belong here.
- 38:48(gentle music)
- 38:58- Interbeing is a very natural term.
- 39:00It means more than interconnection or interdependency,
- 39:03which kind of suggests separate selves having relationships.
- 39:08Interbeing is more of an understanding
- 39:10that we are relationship, that my very existence
- 39:14depends or draws from or includes your existence.
- 39:17(people laughing)
- 39:19(lighthearted music)
- 39:20My wellbeing is intimately connected to your wellbeing
- 39:24or to the wellbeing of the river, the ocean,
- 39:28the forest, people across the world, and so forth.
- 39:32Because I'm not really separate from you.
- 39:37And, that means that in the story of interbeing,
- 39:40I know that whatever I do to the world
- 39:42will come back to me somehow.
- 39:46So, if our true being is the totality of our relationships
- 39:50and includes everything in the cosmos,
- 39:53if we are truly maybe a holographic mirror
- 39:57of all that is, then when we cut ourselves off
- 40:01from any aspect of nature, other people,
- 40:06we create a wound, we create a cutoff.
- 40:08And, this is painful.
- 40:11And, we yearn to recover our wholeness.
- 40:16However, due to ideology,
- 40:20due to the economic system that we're immersed in,
- 40:23due to cultural factors,
- 40:25due to many, many, many reasons,
- 40:28the reunion that we long for is unavailable to us.
- 40:33That is good for business because it drives
- 40:37consumerism, it drives acquisitiveness,
- 40:39it drives greed, it drives all kinds of neurotic behaviors
- 40:43that seek to compensate for the missing relationships.
- 40:56(gentle music)
- 41:00- I felt myself being drawn into this materialistic world
- 41:05because all the people that were around me
- 41:07had material possessions and it was all,
- 41:09there was this wanting and creating of attachment
- 41:12and wanting and wanting more stuff.
- 41:14So, I sorta got swept into that in a way.
- 41:16(lively music)
- 41:23So yeah, I studied business and I was involved
- 41:26in finance and more specifically stock market.
- 41:28So, we used to help people manage their money.
- 41:32And, in one of the organizations I worked with,
- 41:35we used to manage hundreds of millions
- 41:37of dollars for people.
- 41:39I wasn't from that background.
- 41:41I'm from a sort of a conservative sort of upbringing.
- 41:44Then all of a sudden I'm involved with, you know,
- 41:47guys that are driving luxury cars,
- 41:49and they're living in an expensive house
- 41:50in the Sydney suburbs.
- 41:52It's sort of a bit overwhelming.
- 41:56A lot of the guys that I'd worked with, you know,
- 41:58they were multi-millionaires.
- 42:01But, you know 20 million wasn't enough.
- 42:04So, they have to have the three cars.
- 42:07They have to have a holiday home.
- 42:08They have to have a boat.
- 42:11And, what happens is you can get trapped
- 42:13in that lifestyle, hey.
- 42:21So, the idea is to, you know,
- 42:24have native plants
- 42:27mixed among fruit trees.
- 42:28So, we've got natives here, we've got a tamarillo here.
- 42:32I've got manuka and kanuka in, and pittosporums, natives.
- 42:36And, we've got a cabbage tree here.
- 42:38This is a pine nut, so those really expensive
- 42:42nuts you get in the supermarket.
- 42:44This is one of those that takes about 10 years
- 42:46to get any fruit on it or any nuts.
- 42:49So, that's a long-term project.
- 42:51And, then we've got over here, we've got a fig tree
- 42:54which is fruiting quite nicely.
- 42:57And, then for the Monarch butterflies,
- 43:00we've got a couple of swan plants which they really enjoy
- 43:04and we might be lucky to see one.
- 43:07Here he comes now.
- 43:09It was only after Beth, my wife, and I made the move
- 43:13to New Zealand.
- 43:14We'd just had enough of the whole corporate life
- 43:18and we wanted a slower, simpler lifestyle.
- 43:21It was then the realization sort of hit home.
- 43:24I started to research more, read, you know,
- 43:27hundreds of articles and watched hundreds
- 43:30of documentaries and all sorts of stuff.
- 43:32Then I started to really understand, wow,
- 43:35we got some serious issues here
- 43:37and no one's really talking about this stuff
- 43:40and it's quite scary.
- 43:45I guess with realization of some of the broader issues
- 43:50such as, you know, climate change, peak oil,
- 43:53or resource depletion, and the extinction crisis
- 43:57we're currently going through.
- 43:58And, it's sort of like these massive issues
- 44:02are being given lip service by governments
- 44:05and organizations and it's like ah, it'll just,
- 44:09won't happen, or the system will solve this problem.
- 44:12And, that's what it sorta feels like.
- 44:16So, I guess that brings up a lot of emotions
- 44:18like frustration and anger and guilt
- 44:22and it's like, why isn't someone doing something about this?
- 44:25Oh, here we go, here we go, here's a strawberry,
- 44:26here's a strawberry.
- 44:27So, here's a nice one, I can,
- 44:29look at the color of that thing.
- 44:31Then I started to research permaculture
- 44:33and realized that it was an integrated approach
- 44:37to how we're living.
- 44:39So, at the moment, our current society,
- 44:42it's a fragmented approach to living.
- 44:44So, everything's compartmentalized or separated.
- 44:47Whereas, permaculture is a holistic approach
- 44:49to how we're living.
- 44:53It integrates food, environment, with your lifestyle
- 44:57and taking care of people, the planet,
- 45:00and the natural resources.
- 45:05So, a lot of people come over to our property
- 45:08and have a look around.
- 45:10And they go, "What about all your fruit trees?
- 45:12"Do you get pests and stuff like birds that eat them?"
- 45:13And, I say, yeah sure.
- 45:15But, we don't mind that, you know, they were here first,
- 45:17and we're a part of nature.
- 45:19And, you know, we've had comments from other
- 45:22people that live around near us on the farms.
- 45:25And, they say they can't believe how much wildlife
- 45:27and birdlife is here.
- 45:29And, their property is just a few hundred meters away
- 45:34have almost no wildlife or birdlife.
- 45:39(upbeat whistling music)
- 45:52So, you know, we're attracting birdlife and wildlife
- 45:56through just letting nature be as opposed
- 45:58to wanting to control it.
- 46:03Permaculture links into other aspects like collaboration,
- 46:07localization, food resiliency, and networking.
- 46:12So, it's not just about growing food.
- 46:14It's about connecting a whole system
- 46:17and integrating a whole system into one's life.
- 46:21This lifestyle working on the land
- 46:23and doing permaculture, it feels more rewarding
- 46:27and like I'm putting something back.
- 46:29We also live a less consumerist lifestyle so we don't need
- 46:34as much stuff.
- 46:35So, I haven't got this constant craving
- 46:37for more and more to make me feel satisfied or happy.
- 46:42So, there you have it.
- 46:44We have homegrown salad, a fruit salad,
- 46:48a green salad, and some eggs.
- 46:51And, I can't believe still that I don't have to go
- 46:55to a supermarket.
- 46:56We've grown all this ourselves in just three years.
- 47:00I'm still amazed.
- 47:01So, anyone can do it.
- 47:11When I was living in big cities, it was like
- 47:14I had to get away to connect with nature,
- 47:17but when I wake up every morning,
- 47:19I come outside and I'm immediately in nature here.
- 47:22I don't have that void anymore.
- 47:24I've just got this instant connection and satisfaction.
- 47:28It's hard to explain.
- 47:35- I mean, maybe you've had this experience,
- 47:37feeling like I'm not living my life.
- 47:41I'm living the life I'm paid to live.
- 47:42But, what about my life?
- 47:45So, this is a different dimension of human nature
- 47:49that we need to invoke.
- 47:53We need to implement, we need to create conditions
- 47:57for that part of human nature to blossom.
- 48:07(gentle music)
- 48:13- We had been living in Cuti Cuti
- 48:17and I was working a regular job
- 48:22as a GP in the practice there.
- 48:24And, then I just found these kinda warning signs
- 48:27that I was starting to get out of balance.
- 48:29You know, I'd be lovely with my patients,
- 48:30but I'd come home and be kinda shitty.
- 48:32I was feeling quite depressed.
- 48:36Just kind of the internal cogs
- 48:40weren't running together very well.
- 48:42And, we started talking about it
- 48:45and thought well, maybe we really need to kinda
- 48:47radically rethink how we wanna live.
- 48:50(upbeat music)
- 48:54So, the house is 20 square meters.
- 48:57It started with a sheep shearer's quarters
- 49:00just to the side of us here.
- 49:02And, that was maybe 20 yeas ago that that was built.
- 49:06So, our bedroom is the original cabin
- 49:09and then this L-shaped space is our kitchen,
- 49:13lounge, library, office, (baby crying)
- 49:18daybed...
- 49:19- Everything.
- 49:20- Everything, yeah.
- 49:2220 square meters.
- 49:25We've got a shower just adjoining and a bit of a deck
- 49:28out the back.
- 49:29A few months ago a friend of mine helped me
- 49:31put a 300-watt panel up on the roof and so that powers
- 49:35the broadband and telephone and a bit more light.
- 49:40What else?
- 49:41Now, we can...
- 49:43- Use a sewing machine.
- 49:44Which is very exciting. - Yeah, we could
- 49:44yeah, we can, the sewing machine is good.
- 49:46- Yeah, yeah.
- 49:50- A lot of people when they hear about it,
- 49:51they think, oh my gosh, how is that with a baby
- 49:54and even before that, how is that just the two of you?
- 49:56- I think, actually it's great with the baby
- 49:59living in a small space in that wherever she is
- 50:03she's never that far away.
- 50:07So, it's quite easy to be doing whatever I need
- 50:09to be doing and keeping an eye on her.
- 50:12And, when she's sleeping, she'll be close by.
- 50:20- We have a, I don't know the term for it,
- 50:22like a work, trade arrangement with the owners.
- 50:27And, we've been living here just over a year,
- 50:28so about three or four days a week, I'm on the farm.
- 50:32And then part-time, I work as a GP.
- 50:35So, our costs are fractional to what they were
- 50:40living in town.
- 50:44I don't have any stress about money
- 50:45which is a huge benefit.
- 50:48Emotionally, I'm healthier.
- 50:52(both laugh)
- 51:01- It was a choice wanting to be more immersed
- 51:05in my environment and more directly connected
- 51:09with my needs, where my food was coming from.
- 51:12And, I love going out and seeing the garden
- 51:13each day and seeing how things have changed.
- 51:15And, yeah, it's like having a relationship
- 51:17with a living thing, well, lots of living things.
- 51:24- Regularly attending in the garden,
- 51:27I had this feeling of almost being in love with the garden.
- 51:31Which blew me away.
- 51:34- The future of humanity is to return to that relationship
- 51:39to nature and to all beings and to all human beings, too.
- 51:43To fall in love with the world.
- 51:46Its wellbeing is my wellbeing.
- 51:49(spiritual music)
- 51:51If we really were in love with the planet
- 51:54and incorporated that love into all of our systems,
- 51:57into our money system, we would not have
- 52:01an ecological crisis.
- 52:04(moving to upbeat music)
- 52:06- If an economy is operating outside of ecological limits,
- 52:10then the inevitable conclusion is that it's going to
- 52:14completely erode the resource base
- 52:17until it implodes or collapses.
- 52:22So, really, the choice that we have
- 52:24is to design and develop an economy
- 52:28that operates within ecological limits.
- 52:30That's our only safe bet.
- 52:32It's our only bet at all.
- 52:36- So, if we think about the whole problem of deflation
- 52:40and what could happen post-collapse
- 52:42in a country that experiences a sudden reversal
- 52:46and this loss of liquidity where the money supply
- 52:49really, really gets chopped down,
- 52:50people still have needs.
- 52:53People still have goods and services.
- 52:55They're gonna find a way to exchange those.
- 52:58What you want is the easiest possible way
- 53:00to make this happen.
- 53:02And, this is where alternative currencies
- 53:04would plug the gap.
- 53:05If a central government were quick thinking,
- 53:09quick off the mark and actually had a plan
- 53:12for dealing with this stuff, they could introduce
- 53:15a new currency, maybe a parallel currency,
- 53:17maybe a replacement currency to counteract
- 53:20the disappearance of all the bank money.
- 53:23That probably won't happen though,
- 53:24so it's going to be up to local and regional currencies
- 53:28to fill that void.
- 53:30(gentle music)
- 53:38- I woke up one morning and jumped out of bed
- 53:41without even being caught just yet saying,
- 53:43I'm gonna start a local currency.
- 53:47And I just felt so much joy.
- 53:49There was just like this energy moving through me.
- 53:52LOAVES stands for Local Origin Ashhurst
- 53:55Voluntary Exchange System.
- 53:57It's one of those acronyms that you fit the words
- 53:59to the acronym instead of the other way around.
- 54:03It is meant to be a voucher system that circulates
- 54:06in Ashhurst and the Pohangina Valley as a voluntary
- 54:11alternative to using money for exchange.
- 54:13(upbeat music)
- 54:15So, LOAVES is primarily trading
- 54:16at the Ashhurst Community Market.
- 54:18And, we have about a dozen or so businesses
- 54:21that are accepting it there.
- 54:22We've got the cheesery, we've got the fudgery.
- 54:25We have several plant businesses.
- 54:27We have a business consultant who accepts it
- 54:30outside of the market and there's half a dozen others
- 54:34that are accepting it as well.
- 54:36One of the primary benefits of the currency in my mind
- 54:40is the awareness-raising that goes along with it.
- 54:43We're after not the currency itself, but the relationships
- 54:47that come out of the currency.
- 54:49So, one of the major things is this awareness campaign
- 54:51around the benefits of buying local,
- 54:54the benefits of having a commitment between customers
- 54:57and businesses of knowing what's available
- 55:00in your own community, of going to town instead of the city
- 55:03when you need something, of supporting your neighbors
- 55:06and looking to your neighbors and their businesses
- 55:09as a primary way of meeting your needs.
- 55:14- The wealth generated by using our local currency,
- 55:18100% of it stays here.
- 55:20There's no interest and it just keeps circulating
- 55:23and recirculating in the local community.
- 55:27And, rather than being considered in competition
- 55:31with the national money, it's actually complementary to it.
- 55:40- So, you strengthen these local connections.
- 55:43Of course, that's a very resilient thing to do
- 55:45because it just means that if things are rough,
- 55:48you've got friends, neighbors, and people in your region
- 55:52that are able to help one another out.
- 55:57TimeBanking is a very interesting development
- 56:00in that it uses a very egalitarian basis.
- 56:04It says everybody's time is equal.
- 56:08That it doesn't matter how skilled you are
- 56:10or what your qualifications are,
- 56:12or what you do for your day job,
- 56:14that your hour is worth the same as my hour.
- 56:17(gentle music)
- 56:22- [Child] How much kale do we need?
- 56:25- [Maria] We're gonna have another one (mumbles).
- 56:30- [Child] Let's go.
- 56:31- [Maria] All right.
- 56:37- I'm Maria Lee from Te Mahi Kai at Diamond Harbour School
- 56:41which is a gardening to cooking program.
- 56:44(lighthearted music)
- 56:45So, we teach the children how to grow everything themselves
- 56:49and they put the seeds in, then look after the garden.
- 56:53And, then when it's my turn, we harvest what they've grown
- 56:57and turn it into lunch.
- 56:58(children chattering)
- 57:05So, today we're making kale chips and broad bean dip
- 57:09and each week it's different.
- 57:11(gentle music)
- 57:12The idea is just to teach them some basics of cooking.
- 57:15And, in order for that to work, we use TimeBank volunteers.
- 57:19And, we couldn't do it without them.
- 57:20(children chattering)
- 57:22Our volunteers are paid one credit per hour
- 57:25that they come and volunteer for us.
- 57:27So, we take those from the school TimeBank credit system
- 57:32and give it to them.
- 57:33And, then they use it to trade for whatever they need.
- 57:40- It's always easier to build your barn
- 57:44when the sun is shining than try to put it up
- 57:46in a howling gale.
- 57:48So, if you put these things together now,
- 57:51if you get a system up and running
- 57:52and especially with something like a local currency
- 57:55where there may be some marketing involved,
- 57:57you know, trying to get buy-in from people and all that.
- 57:59You don't create one of these things out of whole cloth
- 58:02and get it widely accepted overnight.
- 58:09- Look, there's no getting away from it.
- 58:11A huge part of this is that we just consume too much stuff.
- 58:14(somber music)
- 58:17Our entire economy is built on getting us to buy
- 58:20and consume, dispose, and re-consume things.
- 58:26I don't think it's realistic that we can expect
- 58:28to live in a world where we don't make things
- 58:30or use things or use resources.
- 58:32Of course we do.
- 58:33But, we need to use them in way that is smart.
- 58:35You know, it's about intelligent use.
- 58:36It's about being efficient and not wasteful.
- 58:41- The notion of waste is something that wasn't around
- 58:45two or 300 years ago, you know.
- 58:47We just didn't have waste. (gentle music)
- 58:48Things had utility, things had value all the way through.
- 58:52And, if they reached the end of productivity,
- 58:57they were reformed into something else.
- 59:05(upbeat music)
- 59:06Welcome to Bayswater Repair Cafe.
- 59:10A repair cafe is a free pop-up event
- 59:13where local community experts
- 59:16in a variety of different areas
- 59:19offer their skills and services to other people
- 59:22in their local community for free.
- 59:25You know, every year we send a crazy amount of stuff
- 59:29to holes in the ground.
- 59:30And, this is about maybe doing something to address
- 59:34some of that flow.
- 59:35But, also in the process of doing that,
- 59:37bringing people together in a beautiful way
- 59:39that connects people, creates some networks
- 59:43and maybe even some friendships.
- 59:47So, we've got five different repair areas
- 59:51at the cafe today.
- 59:53We've got an electrical appliances repair space
- 59:57and that is overwhelmingly the most popular area.
- 59:59So, people bring in toasters and lamps and all kinds
- 1:00:03of random bits and pieces.
- 1:00:06We've got a clothing repair space.
- 1:00:09And, we've got a team of seamstresses
- 1:00:13and a seamster, if that's the right word,
- 1:00:15who are mending clothes.
- 1:00:20We've got a guy who is repairing wood
- 1:00:25and pieces of furniture.
- 1:00:27And, we've got general repairs and we've also got
- 1:00:29two bike mechanics.
- 1:00:33I was speaking to the daughter of one of the volunteers
- 1:00:36who helped out with repairs.
- 1:00:39And, he was an older guy.
- 1:00:42And, he said to her that he felt a real sense
- 1:00:47of belonging and a real sense of feeling useful
- 1:00:52and having purpose.
- 1:00:54And I thought that was an amazing outcome from the day
- 1:00:58to make someone feel good about having shared their skills
- 1:01:05with local people.
- 1:01:07This is a beautiful example of a community initiative
- 1:01:10that brings people together
- 1:01:12and enhances connection, enhances a sense
- 1:01:16of community and neighborhood.
- 1:01:20We fix a lot of stuff, but more important
- 1:01:23than that, I think, is the building
- 1:01:26of connection and community.
- 1:01:30(eerie music)
- 1:01:32- It's really important to remember that when you dispose
- 1:01:35of something, you can't throw it away.
- 1:01:38When you throw something it goes somewhere.
- 1:01:41You might not know where that is.
- 1:01:43It may be out of your sight, may be out of your mind,
- 1:01:45but there is no such place as away.
- 1:01:51- In 2007, we were really starting
- 1:01:54to think about our impacts (gentle music)
- 1:01:55that we were having, just our regular
- 1:01:57day-to-day actions.
- 1:01:58And, one of the things we focused on was how much rubbish
- 1:02:00we were producing.
- 1:02:02I mean, we could've focused on anything,
- 1:02:03but rubbish was so visual.
- 1:02:05And, just every week rubbish bags filling up
- 1:02:09and so we somehow decided to challenge ourselves.
- 1:02:13We can't remember whose idea it was now,
- 1:02:15but we did this crazy thing where we thought,
- 1:02:17right, we're gonna try and make no rubbish
- 1:02:19for the entire year.
- 1:02:20(upbeat music)
- 1:02:22We were genuinely not green people.
- 1:02:25We were putting out a bag of rubbish
- 1:02:27every week without fail.
- 1:02:29And, we had literally never thought about it before.
- 1:02:32We sort of, it came to us one day,
- 1:02:35and went, oh my gosh this is terrible.
- 1:02:37- In terms of the challenge was to try and live
- 1:02:40for one year with less than a City Council rubbish bag.
- 1:02:43And, most of it was made up of the items
- 1:02:45that were out of our control.
- 1:02:46So, the radiator hose on the car burst
- 1:02:49and so we had a radiator hose.
- 1:02:51And, we tried to carry on doing things
- 1:02:52that you'd normally do so we were renovating our home
- 1:02:55back then and we had all the lead paint
- 1:02:58from scraping the weather boards.
- 1:03:01Some in practical terms that's all we had left over.
- 1:03:03Yeah.
- 1:03:09I think when we look at the average rubbish bin,
- 1:03:11you know, or what people are putting out,
- 1:03:13at least 50% of it's generally organics.
- 1:03:17So, you take the biggest things out first, right?
- 1:03:20So, deal with organics is the no-brainer.
- 1:03:23If you do that, you're 50% ahead of the average citizen.
- 1:03:28And, then there's another sort of 30%
- 1:03:30of recyclable material generally these days
- 1:03:34in the rubbish bin.
- 1:03:35So, there's the next thing.
- 1:03:36So, you deal with the organics,
- 1:03:38then you recycle everything you can and you're getting up
- 1:03:41then by that stage.
- 1:03:42You've made massive gains.
- 1:03:45People can feel overwhelmed and feel that what they're doing
- 1:03:48doesn't make a difference.
- 1:03:50But, most of the waste we create or we're kind of
- 1:03:54complicit in is waste we've never seen.
- 1:03:58So, we'll buy something and there'll be a bit of packaging
- 1:04:00around it that we see.
- 1:04:02But, in making that item, that's when the bulk
- 1:04:04of the waste is created.
- 1:04:06So, if you're putting out a rubbish bag
- 1:04:09that actually represents 70 rubbish bags of waste
- 1:04:12that you've never seen that has gone into making
- 1:04:15that bag of waste.
- 1:04:18Consumers have it tough, right?
- 1:04:20There's a lot of money goes into marketing
- 1:04:23and seeing the messages that you can buy
- 1:04:26a compostable packaging and, you know,
- 1:04:28you're saving the environment.
- 1:04:30And, of course, compostable packaging in any landfill
- 1:04:33is just as bad.
- 1:04:33Is the sort of thing that actually needs to be composted
- 1:04:37at very hot temperatures so it really needs
- 1:04:39commercial composting to be done properly.
- 1:04:44And, one of the biggest problems in my business
- 1:04:46that I have to go to vendors and say, I'm sorry,
- 1:04:48I know you've paid more and you've been promised
- 1:04:51that this is eco and compostable by the person
- 1:04:54that sold it to you, but they didn't actually go
- 1:04:59and do their product stewardship and find out
- 1:05:01whether the composting industry can take it any replace.
- 1:05:06- I think we've actually got consumers
- 1:05:07that wanna do the right thing.
- 1:05:08We've got businesses that are doing amazing stuff.
- 1:05:12And we've got a government completely missing in action
- 1:05:14in terms of providing a framework for,
- 1:05:17to encourage those behaviors more and more.
- 1:05:20- So, when you do buy a container in the supermarket,
- 1:05:22you make sure it's a reusable container.
- 1:05:24And, then you wash it out and you take it
- 1:05:26into one of these stores and you get them to weigh it
- 1:05:28and then you fill it up with whatever you want
- 1:05:29and they take the weight off it and you've just stopped
- 1:05:32that plastic packaging.
- 1:05:35- If people combining composting and only had to recycle
- 1:05:38and they're just putting a bit of extra thought
- 1:05:39into how they're shopping,
- 1:05:41particularly considering that packaging.
- 1:05:43(upbeat music)
- 1:05:46It's that choice when you're at the supermarket
- 1:05:49or at Bunnings or whatever, thinking about the item,
- 1:05:54essentially if it's plastic or got other
- 1:05:56composite materials in it, what can you do with it
- 1:06:00at the end of life?
- 1:06:01Not much.
- 1:06:02It's gonna be rubbish, it's gonna be around
- 1:06:03for thousands of years.
- 1:06:06Every time we spend a dollar, it's a vote.
- 1:06:09We have so much power, so much more power
- 1:06:12than what we realize.
- 1:06:13So, it's like keep on that knife edge like yes,
- 1:06:15see that it's a big, that yes, these big issues,
- 1:06:18but also yes we can make a difference.
- 1:06:20(upbeat lively music)
- 1:06:23- Like, there's part of me, you know,
- 1:06:24when I go to recycle my bottles or compost my waste,
- 1:06:31it's like well, what good does it do?
- 1:06:34You know, I'm just subtracting one plastic bottle
- 1:06:37from the enormous trash heap that gets shipped
- 1:06:41to India and is making new mountains in India
- 1:06:43and China, you know, of waste.
- 1:06:45Like what does it matter, one bottle different?
- 1:06:50You can say, well if everybody did it,
- 1:06:53then it would make a difference.
- 1:06:55So, you have to do your part.
- 1:06:56But, part of you will say, well, I'm not everybody.
- 1:07:00And, if everybody does it then it doesn't matter
- 1:07:02if I do it.
- 1:07:04So, we have to have another reason.
- 1:07:06For me, it comes down to relationship and ritual.
- 1:07:10I like to save my compost and use composting toilets
- 1:07:15for example, not because I've done some calculation
- 1:07:19that this is gonna save the world,
- 1:07:23but because it's a different kind of relationship
- 1:07:25with the beings around me.
- 1:07:28(lighthearted music)
- 1:07:36- Composting toilets, like composting your own shit,
- 1:07:39processing your own toilet waste is a real basic
- 1:07:42fundamental thing that we should all practice.
- 1:07:47It's a simple way of being,
- 1:07:49of demonstrating self-responsibility.
- 1:07:52- So with a flush toilet, basically you take
- 1:07:55really nice, clean drinking water
- 1:07:57and our shit and mix the two together,
- 1:08:00both wonderful resources, when you mix them together
- 1:08:04you create toxic problem.
- 1:08:07So, with a compost toilet system, you're able to capture
- 1:08:12that amazing resource and take care of it
- 1:08:15and treat it in a way that removes any pathogens
- 1:08:19or problems and create a wonderful resource.
- 1:08:26- Okay, so welcome to our toilet.
- 1:08:29For a start, it's a composting bucket bench system.
- 1:08:31We've got cover material which we use old sawdust
- 1:08:36from the mill.
- 1:08:37It's already got bacteria and a bit of fungus in it.
- 1:08:39So, you go make your deposit ch, ch, ch.
- 1:08:41Put a bit of cover material on, leave it.
- 1:08:44And, then when we've got a certain amount of buckets,
- 1:08:46we go to the compost and add straw and garden waste
- 1:08:50and kitchen waste.
- 1:08:55And, this is one I did maybe a week ago.
- 1:08:57And, we'll put the compost thermometer in here
- 1:09:00and see what we're looking at.
- 1:09:02We're still looking at 50 degrees.
- 1:09:04It's going up.
- 1:09:05We've got up to 65 degrees the other day.
- 1:09:07I recorded it the other day.
- 1:09:09- You know, there are pathogens you have to consider.
- 1:09:10There's round worm eggs and all these different kinds
- 1:09:13of worm eggs that can exist in human urine.
- 1:09:18If you do a hot compost, that's the safest way
- 1:09:21because you can nuke all those things within hours.
- 1:09:28And, over here
- 1:09:31is what you get.
- 1:09:36I put it in a bag, but you don't need to (grunts).
- 1:09:41That there is about a year old.
- 1:09:44It's got lots of worms in it.
- 1:09:46We put all our garden waste
- 1:09:48and all our kitchen waste in here,
- 1:09:51but the worms are a good sign.
- 1:09:52If you've got worms it means it's not too acidic
- 1:09:54and (sniffs) mmm, yum, good stuff.
- 1:09:57And, that goes straight on the garden
- 1:09:59and the plants love it.
- 1:10:01And, we love the plants (chuckles).
- 1:10:05- When it's finished composting, it doesn't look like
- 1:10:07or smell like anything like poo.
- 1:10:10It's just beautiful black compost.
- 1:10:14So, we've monitored it closely.
- 1:10:15We've watched the temperature.
- 1:10:16We know all the pathogens have been nuked.
- 1:10:19We feel confident in our process.
- 1:10:22So, we feel safe to use it in our garden.
- 1:10:26Anyone can do this.
- 1:10:27It's just really a matter of being engaged
- 1:10:30and wanting to do it and getting the knowledge.
- 1:10:32It's a knowledge-based system.
- 1:10:34It's not technological or anything really advanced.
- 1:10:37I've seen people do it in cities,
- 1:10:39you know with a wee backyard, small backyard.
- 1:10:43Yeah, I know some people do it in really rural settings.
- 1:10:46It's just a matter of being engaged.
- 1:10:48- Yeah, it's for everyone, everyone, everyone
- 1:10:51who wants to take more responsibility for themselves
- 1:10:55and not pass it off.
- 1:10:58Everyone who values their poo (chuckles).
- 1:11:02I value my poo (chuckles).
- 1:11:06I value your poo, too, so you're welcome
- 1:11:09to leave a deposit before you go.
- 1:11:11It's sort of expected actually.
- 1:11:13No pressure (chuckles).
- 1:11:19(gentle music)
- 1:11:27- I've come to see that in order to be part of the solution
- 1:11:29we really need to use our everyday choices
- 1:11:32to change our behavior and it's a cultural shift
- 1:11:36that needs to happen in order for us
- 1:11:37to at least sustain ourself, which isn't even enough,
- 1:11:40of course, because what are we sustaining (chuckles).
- 1:11:45And, so that's something I've really been putting
- 1:11:47a lot of time into recently is designing my work
- 1:11:49so that it's actually regenerative.
- 1:11:53(upbeat music)
- 1:11:59Sort of out of necessity, I started
- 1:12:00this organic waste collection.
- 1:12:02Check this out.
- 1:12:04Whoa.
- 1:12:07Yeah, we're currently picking about 2 1/2 tons up
- 1:12:10each week from local businesses.
- 1:12:13Instead of that all going into a hole in the ground,
- 1:12:15it gets returned back to the soil
- 1:12:18by way of Windrow aerobic composting.
- 1:12:23So, we currently have around 45 businesses
- 1:12:27on the Why Waste collection.
- 1:12:28And they have a number of bins or buckets,
- 1:12:31mostly wheelie bins and some have up to five wheelie bins
- 1:12:34at their business.
- 1:12:37And, every week Why Waste comes and picks
- 1:12:40that up and we take it to, we weigh it,
- 1:12:43we record all the data, things like that.
- 1:12:45We take it to a composting facility.
- 1:12:47And, so yeah, we're in partnership with them
- 1:12:50so that we can return that waste back to the soil.
- 1:12:55Recently one of my clients rang me up
- 1:12:57and they were super stoked because they were able
- 1:12:59to cancel this big skip bin for their rubbish, you know.
- 1:13:05And, now they just use a 240 liter wheelie bin.
- 1:13:08Which is much, much smaller.
- 1:13:10And, that's as a result of all of their,
- 1:13:14their compostable waste going to,
- 1:13:17back to the soil.
- 1:13:18Oh, what's that?
- 1:13:19Oh, tasty muffin (laughs).
- 1:13:26I'm really passionate about composting
- 1:13:28as a solution of minimizing our waste
- 1:13:31and our impact here on,
- 1:13:34on this one planet that we have (laughs).
- 1:13:37Food scraps and biodegradable waste takes up
- 1:13:41over a third of what we send to landfill.
- 1:13:44When biodegradable matter biodegrades anaerobically,
- 1:13:50it produces a lot of methane, which is 23 times worse
- 1:13:54than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas.
- 1:13:57And, not only do you get that gas
- 1:14:00going into the atmosphere, but you also get a liquid
- 1:14:04version of it leaching into our soils,
- 1:14:07into our water table.
- 1:14:11So, what we're trying to achieve here
- 1:14:13is build a really hot compost around this drum
- 1:14:18and also all of this, build all this irrigation into it
- 1:14:22so that when that aerobic hot compost heats up,
- 1:14:26we should be able to pump water through the system
- 1:14:31out and over to these bathtubs over here
- 1:14:35and have free
- 1:14:38biologically heated hot water.
- 1:14:42The reason why I'm so enthusiastic about compost
- 1:14:44is that it's fertility in its purest form.
- 1:14:48This is how nature builds soil and that enables us
- 1:14:52to grow more food.
- 1:14:54And, if people are conscious of composting,
- 1:14:59they're probably gonna become more conscious
- 1:15:01about what they're eating.
- 1:15:03And, if they're opening less packets,
- 1:15:05that's good for everyone.
- 1:15:06That's good for the planet, that's good for our people.
- 1:15:10If we can get people to focus on eating better
- 1:15:13then we're actually able to produce a lot less
- 1:15:16landfill waste and a lot more biodegradable waste
- 1:15:20which then can be turned into more fertility
- 1:15:22to produce more food.
- 1:15:24So, the healthier we eat the better our waste is
- 1:15:28and much easier to manage and return to the land.
- 1:15:33People talk about thinking global, acting local.
- 1:15:39I suppose I'm really sitting in that truth presently.
- 1:15:42I'd rather think global and act global,
- 1:15:44but we've gotta start somewhere you know (chuckles).
- 1:15:47And, so yeah, that's the change I'm wanting to see
- 1:15:52in the world, so I'm being it the best I can.
- 1:16:01(waves rumbling)
- 1:16:15(somber music)
- 1:16:35(moving to upbeat music)
- 1:16:38- I see a lot of people who are very sensitive
- 1:16:40to the devastation, the damage, or just civilization
- 1:16:46and it paralyzes them.
- 1:16:47And, that's sad because we need those people,
- 1:16:51all of those people.
- 1:16:54Do you know there's lots of things that could depress you
- 1:16:57out in the world, but if you take each negative,
- 1:17:00there's almost like an opportunity or provocation
- 1:17:04to do your thing, which is the opposite of that,
- 1:17:06you know, give more life, then it's fun.
- 1:17:09Then it's a winnable game.
- 1:17:11That's how I see it.
- 1:17:18- Would be awesome to see
- 1:17:20our country before human cut it.
- 1:17:24You know, the thousands and the thousands,
- 1:17:26millions of birds.
- 1:17:27Huge, huge Kauri trees, it's just unimaginable.
- 1:17:32I think we all have done a misjustice to
- 1:17:35looking after papatuanuku.
- 1:17:39My ancestors weren't always exactly
- 1:17:41the best conservationists either,
- 1:17:43but we now have the chance to revive and recover
- 1:17:46those landscapes before it's too late.
- 1:17:52- Over a three year period we planted 85,000 trees
- 1:17:56and the majority of those are New Zealand native trees
- 1:17:59which are now flourishing
- 1:18:00and really transforming the landscape.
- 1:18:03I just sorta would love to see what this place looked like
- 1:18:05a thousand years ago, which is such a brief period
- 1:18:09in ecological time.
- 1:18:10And, in that time we've sort of stripped
- 1:18:12most of the native vegetation
- 1:18:14and done a whole lot of damage
- 1:18:17and we've gone about as far as we can down that road.
- 1:18:20And, so now it's time for us to try and find
- 1:18:23the balance and restore those ecosystems
- 1:18:28but find a place for humans living harmoniously within it.
- 1:18:32(birds chirping)
- 1:18:35- You don't realize this but this used to be
- 1:18:37a partial desert.
- 1:18:38- Mmm, was just grass.
- 1:18:40- Yeah, and this is what people can do.
- 1:18:44You can create heaven on Earth.
- 1:18:45(birds chirping)
- 1:18:50- Start growing food.
- 1:18:52Food is central to the way we live, our health
- 1:18:55and our whole ecosystem, environment.
- 1:18:59Even if you're in an apartment, you can,
- 1:19:01you know, windowsills, pots, whatever.
- 1:19:03You can start.
- 1:19:04And, that's the first step.
- 1:19:05Once you engage with growing and experiencing nature,
- 1:19:09then things start to happen.
- 1:19:13- I get asked this a lot.
- 1:19:13You know, what can somebody do
- 1:19:15if they're not a farmer or they're not on the land,
- 1:19:18what can they do to change it?
- 1:19:19Well, they can do a lot.
- 1:19:21The best thing that anybody can do
- 1:19:23is to vote with their wallets.
- 1:19:24While in some cases it may be more expensive,
- 1:19:26do what you can, you know.
- 1:19:28If you see people in your area that are producing food
- 1:19:33that is ecologically healthy,
- 1:19:36they're doing it in a way
- 1:19:37that is looking after the environment,
- 1:19:39then that adds up.
- 1:19:40You know the more people that do that,
- 1:19:42the less expensive it will become
- 1:19:45as that becomes normalized.
- 1:19:50- You know from an individual's point of view,
- 1:19:54the biggest change by far that we can achieve
- 1:19:58in our own, by changing our own lifestyle
- 1:20:00is to reduce the amount of meat we eat.
- 1:20:02That will have a much bigger effect
- 1:20:04than what we do transport-wise or almost anything else.
- 1:20:11- There's a lovely poem that talks about
- 1:20:12we don't have to be good, we don't have to walk 100 miles
- 1:20:14on our knees repenting in the desert.
- 1:20:16We just have to do what the soft animal of our body loves.
- 1:20:21And, I really like that.
- 1:20:23I really like that.
- 1:20:25For me, this turns out to be what I love.
- 1:20:27And, I have a suspicion that this is actually
- 1:20:30the blueprint and there's something
- 1:20:31when people get to it, everybody would want
- 1:20:34to live this way, I suspect.
- 1:20:37But, it might be a really long journey
- 1:20:40for some folks to get to that knowing.
- 1:20:43(lively music)
- 1:20:46- Last year, I made a submission
- 1:20:48to the Council long-term plan that I thought climate change
- 1:20:53was by far the most urgent and important issue
- 1:20:57that Councils should be concerned about.
- 1:21:01And, they said, "And, what would that look like?"
- 1:21:08I got a reaction.
- 1:21:11So, I ruminated on it for awhile
- 1:21:13and I took it back to a group that I was part of,
- 1:21:17called Project Wairarapa
- 1:21:19and they said yes,
- 1:21:23let's do this.
- 1:21:25You should have heard the buzz at that first meeting.
- 1:21:29It was fantastic.
- 1:21:32And, that feeds me, that encourages me
- 1:21:37that I'm doing something useful.
- 1:21:39It's my time to give back to the community
- 1:21:41that's been so good to me, where I've raised my kids,
- 1:21:46and had such a good life.
- 1:21:50- So, my vision for the future, I have to be really clear.
- 1:21:53It doesn't have anything to do with things
- 1:21:55working the way they do now, but with renewable energy.
- 1:21:59That's actually not a possibility.
- 1:22:02Working on renewable energy and being quite different
- 1:22:05from what we do now, evolving into something else,
- 1:22:08is the vision I see.
- 1:22:10Now, how well that's all working,
- 1:22:14how high a quality of life that is,
- 1:22:17how fair it is, how equitable it is,
- 1:22:19how stable the governments are,
- 1:22:21how much war has come between now and then,
- 1:22:23completely depends on what we do right now.
- 1:22:28- I think that the place that we're going
- 1:22:30is a place that we cannot see from where we are.
- 1:22:34It'll only emerge or become visible
- 1:22:37as we move toward it.
- 1:22:40But, so I'm not gonna say okay, you know,
- 1:22:42here's the blueprint for the future system.
- 1:22:44I've thought it all out, you know,
- 1:22:45and now I'm gonna tell you what it is.
- 1:22:47But, I do catch glimpses sometimes, you know.
- 1:22:50One thing that comes to me (birds chirping)
- 1:22:51is that in the future, we'll feel really at home
- 1:22:55in the world.
- 1:22:56We will be intimately familiar
- 1:22:58with the landscape around us.
- 1:23:02We will be in rich communities.
- 1:23:07Take the best experiences you've had in your life,
- 1:23:11the most authentic, the most vibrant,
- 1:23:14those don't have to be exceptions.
- 1:23:18Trust what feels loving, trust what feels good.
- 1:23:21Trust what feels aligned with who you really are.
- 1:23:26If you live by that and spread that vibe
- 1:23:29and other people start living by that,
- 1:23:31then the whole planet is gonna change.
- 1:23:50(upbeat music)
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