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- 0:27What up?
- 0:56Good morning. Good morning.
- 1:23All right. Well, today we're going to be
- 1:25working on eval, but
- 1:27I may trade uh
- 1:29my live account uh potentially.
- 1:31Trying to build it up.
- 1:36I'm also currently uh full porting an
- 1:38eval.
- 1:43We went in profit, but it turned around,
- 1:45so we might may take a uh
- 1:47$703 L right now on this eval.
- 1:55I'm going to be trading just a bunch of
- 1:57evals today, honestly.
- 2:00This is looking decent uh for the
- 2:02shorts.
- 2:03There was a moment in time where we were
- 2:05up uh
- 2:08830 for a very brief moment in time.
- 2:13So, we'll see if it comes down. If not,
- 2:16we'll have like 1,300 uh
- 2:19Yeah, we're cooked. But, we'll have like
- 2:211,300 to work with. So, I have this
- 2:24eval. I got this eval.
- 2:29And then I got this eval. So, we're
- 2:31going to
- 2:33we're going to eval it up today.
- 2:38Cooked.
- 2:42So, I'm going to wait a little bit. This
- 2:44is kind of [Â __Â ]
- 2:48But, whatever.
- 2:55We locked in this payout though. So, at
- 2:57the end of the day today, we'll take a
- 2:58uh
- 3:00It's basically like $4,700.
- 3:16I am trying to see if we're going to
- 3:17come down though at the open to
- 3:19rebalance
- 3:22some of this move from the overnight.
- 3:25We had a large move overnight. It was
- 3:27like
- 3:28almost 400 points or almost 500 points.
- 3:56Yeah, as I locked out of it.
- 4:00There's no point in trading it.
- 4:02I mean, the most the the biggest payout
- 4:04I can get on it anyways is five grand.
- 4:06So, if we're already at 4,700, like
- 4:10are we going to risk that for another
- 4:12$300? Not really.
- 4:15It's not a good idea.
- 4:20What up, wavy?
- 4:37So, we're just going to wait for market
- 4:38open, but
- 4:40I would like to see us rebalance some of
- 4:42the move from
- 4:44last night.
- 4:49Whether we take these highs first or we
- 4:51come up here first, I do want to see us
- 4:53eventually come down.
- 4:57On QQQ,
- 4:59I'm watching 574.
- 5:02So, just so you know where that's at.
- 5:07We're right here premarket. I'm watching
- 5:10this area.
- 5:11Right around where we uh
- 5:14closed regular trading hours.
- 5:19That's what they call resistance is at
- 5:21or the call wall.
- 5:39So, we're going to look for some
- 5:40opportunities to full port.
- 5:50And then if I see anything that's
- 5:52actually
- 5:53pretty good, I might take it on my live
- 5:55account.
- 5:58Trying to grow this balance.
- 6:01You guys can't see it, but it's at 1,100
- 6:04right now.
- 7:37The good news is that
- 7:39we were able to make a comeback.
- 7:42We were able to make a comeback this
- 7:44month.
- 7:45It was It wasn't looking too hot,
- 7:47honestly.
- 7:50Beginning of the month.
- 7:53But, our streak
- 7:55continues
- 7:57to not be net negative with firms.
- 8:05Which is good.
- 8:07I didn't have a lot of hope in the
- 8:08beginning though.
- 8:11When I blew all those accounts at the
- 8:12beginning of March,
- 8:16it was a
- 8:19it was a sad time.
- 8:27And this this month also for New York
- 8:29opens
- 8:30has been kind of rough. So,
- 8:35we got through it though.
- 8:47Very nice. Yeah.
- 8:49I probably, dude.
- 8:52I probably
- 8:54blew like
- 8:5710 funded accounts this month and like
- 9:02I don't know.
- 9:03I was trading Apex for a little bit at
- 9:05the beginning of this month, so I uh
- 9:08I probably and I traded these Fidus $500
- 9:13static drawdown accounts, so I probably
- 9:15blew like 30 evals.
- 9:22Yeah, you could DM me.
- 9:26Just DM me. I'll look at it later.
- 9:34Yeah, rough month, but
- 9:39we're still good.
- 9:52Yeah, that is all that matters. It
- 9:54really doesn't matter how many accounts
- 9:55you blow, to be honest.
- 10:13Cuz at this point
- 10:15I can still I could depending on what
- 10:17prop firm, I could probably blow like
- 10:19another 50 or 60 accounts and I would
- 10:22still be technically net positive, so.
- 10:51What up, Joseph?
- 11:19Uh
- 11:21Do I full port evals on CPI? Not really.
- 11:25I did I did last uh
- 11:29this last CPI.
- 11:31Usually if I trade CPI, I just trade it
- 11:33with a funded account.
- 11:35At least that's what I've been doing
- 11:35like the past three or four CPIs.
- 11:45Although I think I'm going to
- 11:46sit out on the uh the eval or the funded
- 11:50account trading for the CPI this month.
- 11:57Last month I went long.
- 11:59I think I was I went long on
- 12:03two funded accounts and four or five
- 12:06evals during CPI. It went up like 300
- 12:09ticks in profit.
- 12:11It was like 40 ticks away from my TP.
- 12:15And then it just turned around and
- 12:16slammed all the way back down.
- 12:33I'm just going to full port this short.
- 12:36The rest of the 12 Actually, no, I'm
- 12:39not.
- 12:40There's a chance we open up and sweep
- 12:41the highs first. So, we'll we'll save
- 12:43the 1,200 of drawdown.
- 12:53The goal is about I bought three evals.
- 12:58If I can hit profit target on two of
- 13:00them,
- 13:01we're Gucci.
- 13:07Then I got to pass them, though.
- 13:09So.
- 13:15We'll try and bring that one back from
- 13:16the dead. It's like it's not dead
- 13:18actually at all, but it's $700 in
- 13:20drawdown.
- 13:35I'm my bad if the if
- 13:38if this thing up here is all like messed
- 13:41up, I'm just too lazy to change it
- 13:43for Tradeoview cuz I'm on Tradeoview for
- 13:46Lucid.
- 14:22The goal is is I'm trying to get some
- 14:23funded accounts.
- 14:26At least one more
- 14:28today
- 14:30and tomorrow.
- 14:32Like finish them today and then like or
- 14:34or get them halfway done today and then
- 14:35finish them tomorrow.
- 14:38So, that we have more cuz right now we
- 14:39realistically only have one funded
- 14:41account.
- 14:42Now, the balance on it's okay, but
- 14:45I need more
- 14:48for April.
- 14:55But we have enough time.
- 14:57We just got to hopefully
- 15:00pass
- 15:01at least one out of three.
- 15:04Hopefully we pass one out of three.
- 15:12Ooh.
- 15:15Ooh. Should we Ooh. That looks nasty.
- 15:18We're going to wait a second.
- 15:25We're going to give it a little bit of
- 15:26time.
- 15:31But if we open up and we go like this
- 15:33and we start slamming back down, I'm
- 15:34going short.
- 15:48I'm watching this. I I don't know what
- 15:49this was. If this this looks like this
- 15:51was probably some type of news.
- 15:54Some type of tweet or something.
- 15:59We may take this out.
- 16:18Oh, it was Trump this morning. What did
- 16:19he say?
- 16:22Let me guess. Let me guess. He said
- 16:24something about how he's talking to
- 16:26Iran.
- 16:27And they had a good talk.
- 16:31Oh, yeah. Great progress has been made.
- 16:34Oh, a deal probably.
- 16:42Oh, dude, that's crazy.
- 16:46That's crazy that
- 16:48he can that he does that.
- 17:22Oh, we're kind of lagging right now.
- 17:31It's moving kind of fast.
- 17:53How big is this?
- 17:58Okay.
- 18:07We're going to wait a second, but
- 18:10like I said, I would like us to
- 18:12rebalance some of this
- 18:14overnight move.
- 18:19But I just got to be I got PTSD for New
- 18:22York open, so we're going to
- 18:24wait.
- 18:29Yeah, PTSD, dude. It just like
- 18:31whiplashes around.
- 18:38And then I think uh Powell's speaking
- 18:41soon at some Harvard thing.
- 18:50Yeah, we just got to be uh
- 18:52got to be a little careful.
- 19:21Uh if you want to get heat map, it's
- 19:23like you got to click this thing in the
- 19:24bottom corner. It's called chart trader.
- 19:31You'll be able to see it.
- 19:38How long have I been trading?
- 19:41Well, futures.
- 19:44I used to trade before futures, but
- 19:46futures specifically over 3 years.
- 19:51My order flow setup I actually have a
- 19:53video about my
- 19:55my settings for ATAS and I give you a
- 19:56template. So, if you want your chart to
- 19:58look like this, you could
- 20:02you could
- 20:03get it.
- 20:11I'm going to go to this eval that's
- 20:12already kind of done for and I'm just
- 20:14going to short it.
- 20:18So, where will we blow this account?
- 20:20Up here.
- 20:26So, if it comes back up, we'll blow the
- 20:28account
- 20:30and then we'll work on the other two.
- 20:35But, if it comes down,
- 20:38where do we need to be at?
- 20:42I need to do some quick math.
- 20:46769
- 20:49So, we need like 2,300.
- 20:54All right, 2,300.
- 21:02Let's see if we could push down, get a
- 21:04bearish close, and then have the five
- 21:06the next 5-minute continue, but
- 21:09we may just like start consolidate
- 21:12start to consolidate and [Â __Â ]
- 21:24We're having a lot of buyers get
- 21:25absorbed up here when they were trying
- 21:26to push. So, let's see if we could
- 21:29hit TP.
- 21:35Yeah, I do have a Discord channel.
- 21:38We're currently hanging out right now in
- 21:39the Discord.
- 21:48All right, I think we should be okay as
- 21:50long as it doesn't snap all the way back
- 21:52up right now.
- 21:53Which would be slightly devastating.
- 21:56But,
- 21:57there's a we got orders sitting at 450.
- 22:00So, if we
- 22:01slam through those,
- 22:05we should be able to at least wick
- 22:08my take profit.
- 22:19All right.
- 22:20I think we're good.
- 22:24Just to avoid some [Â __Â ] we're going
- 22:25to just go to break even.
- 22:29Or, actually,
- 22:33we'll put it at 800 so that we have we
- 22:35could start fresh.
- 22:43We're getting edged right now.
- 22:47Currently getting edged.
- 23:00Yo, that's crazy.
- 23:14All right, cool.
- 23:16So,
- 23:20we're able to catch like 50 points on
- 23:22that. We are now
- 23:26currently one for one on the evals.
- 23:28We're going to see how far it wants to
- 23:30go lower, but I'm trying to see if we're
- 23:31going to
- 23:34like this morning, especially after we
- 23:35have like a really large move overnight.
- 23:40I'm trying to see if we're going to
- 23:41start digging our way deeper, come
- 23:43towards this area, enter back towards
- 23:46um
- 23:49at least Asia highs. It's kind of what
- 23:50I'm looking at.
- 23:56It would have been a banger to take that
- 23:58trade on an account that doesn't have a
- 24:00profit target, but
- 24:01whatever.
- 24:04All right, let's go over to this this
- 24:05one now.
- 24:36So, if we can hit profit target on all
- 24:39three of these,
- 24:43it'll be a great day. It would be a
- 24:45great day.
- 24:50Cuz then I'm I'm at least going to get
- 24:52one funded account. If I hit profit
- 24:54target on three evals,
- 24:59and then I blow all three of them
- 25:00tomorrow, that would be kind of
- 25:01devastating, but
- 25:05not really, but it would it would be
- 25:07pretty disappointing and pathetic. So, I
- 25:09think we should be able
- 25:12Uh we'll we'll we'll worry about that
- 25:14tomorrow. Let's just try and hit profit
- 25:15target on the other two.
- 25:27My strategy for order flow?
- 25:31Well, if you join
- 25:33Bro, you know you're like the you're
- 25:35like
- 25:36one of two people in the in the YouTube
- 25:38chat, so you don't have to put all caps.
- 25:40I could read it. I could see it.
- 25:45But, to answer your question,
- 25:48um if you go in the Discord,
- 25:51I have like um
- 25:55I have PDFs that I took a long time
- 25:58writing.
- 26:00And it talks exactly about how I look at
- 26:02everything for the most part. So,
- 26:06you can go in there and download it.
- 26:12Yeah, I'm glad I'm glad you like them
- 26:15because
- 26:16it took me a while to make.
- 26:26Fire.
- 26:34Yo.
- 26:36Ravi.
- 26:40You got to just like
- 26:43click on go click the link in go click
- 26:46the link in my bio
- 26:48and then you'll be able to get there.
- 27:03Mentorships?
- 27:05Mm.
- 27:09We'll see.
- 27:18All right.
- 27:19If we push up,
- 27:23never mind.
- 27:27I want to see us keep coming down, but
- 27:34if I find an entry for a continuation on
- 27:37the shorts,
- 27:39I'm going to take it
- 27:41with three or five minis on this
- 27:45account. We'll try and hit profit
- 27:46target.
- 27:51Right now, I'm watching these lows.
- 27:55And I'm watching down here.
- 27:57Actually,
- 27:59towards
- 28:00Asia.
- 28:18Or, if we go five minis, we only really
- 28:22need like 60 ticks.
- 28:27But, then we could easily blow our
- 28:29account.
- 28:31All right, this is what we're going to
- 28:32do. We're going to go stop sell five.
- 28:38Order filled.
- 28:39>> Oh, it tagged me in.
- 28:42All right, 1,500.
- 28:44We'll go right there. We'll risk
- 28:46ooh, sketchy.
- 28:48You know, let's give ourselves another
- 28:49bullet in this chamber. We'll we'll risk
- 28:51a thousand bucks.
- 28:58Go. Go. Go. Oh, no, we're we're going to
- 29:00get cooked right here.
- 29:08All right, I'm going break even.
- 29:15The TP is basically right around where
- 29:17the lows are at.
- 29:18>> Order filled.
- 29:20No.
- 29:23It's kind of a sketchy one.
- 29:25I'm going to have to just wait a second.
- 29:31Or, we could do it again.
- 29:36No, we're going to wait.
- 30:03>> Probably wait for this 5 minutes to
- 30:05close
- 30:07before we try and full port it again.
- 30:16Cuz we still we we never really took
- 30:18these lows. I was trying to
- 30:21on the 1 minute
- 30:23get some like do some little
- 30:25continuation to take the lows. If we
- 30:27would have taken it, we would have hit
- 30:28it, but
- 30:30came back up a little bit.
- 30:36We do have the 15 minute that's about to
- 30:38open right now, so
- 30:42we're probably
- 30:45Well, it's better if we just kind of
- 30:46wait, actually.
- 31:15Once we do start
- 31:17getting into this area though, I'm going
- 31:19to start being a little
- 31:22like down here.
- 31:23If we do continue to drop, which
- 31:25honestly, now that I think about it,
- 31:27that's going to be a pretty
- 31:30big retracement, but if we get back in
- 31:32here, I'll be careful about trying to go
- 31:33short.
- 31:46Also, just
- 31:48just disclaimer real quick, I'm
- 31:50literally full porting evals right now,
- 31:52so if you're like trying to take any of
- 31:54these trades on a funded account, don't
- 31:56be an idiot. And just don't do that.
- 32:00Please.
- 32:04It's not my fault if you guys uh
- 32:08blow a funded account while I'm
- 32:10full porting evals.
- 32:20Now, if you're full porting evals with
- 32:21me,
- 32:23then that's a
- 32:27my bad if if one of them blows up.
- 32:29We did technically
- 32:32take a 50 point short, so
- 32:48Damn, it's a banger.
- 32:52How big How big of a move is that? 480
- 32:54to 100 points?
- 32:57Sheesh.
- 33:01All right, I'm going short right here.
- 33:04I'm going short
- 33:06and I'm going to risk
- 33:08Ah, it's nasty.
- 33:10We'll risk a thousand bucks.
- 33:16Oh, you guys can't see it.
- 33:22We caught a terrible entry.
- 33:27If it breaks lower, I'm actually going
- 33:28to add to.
- 33:33But I think we're going to get stopped
- 33:34out cuz
- 33:37this is a 1 minute chart, but this is
- 33:39like
- 33:41we're not getting past this POC.
- 33:45If we get dumped past it, it would be
- 33:47nice, but
- 33:51Order filled.
- 33:53All right, break even.
- 33:56Where do we need to go? Right here.
- 33:59It's one more push.
- 34:02Ooh.
- 34:03Edged.
- 34:05Edged.
- 34:11Order filled. Bang, two for two.
- 34:16Two for two, baby.
- 34:21All right, now let's go to the other
- 34:22one.
- 34:28All right, so currently
- 34:30we're two for two on our evals.
- 34:37Let's see if we can go three for three.
- 34:53Damn, dude, I should have taken those
- 34:54first shorts on my live account.
- 35:01It's what It's what I get for being a
- 35:02puss.
- 35:14But I am going to start being a little
- 35:15bit more cautious about trying to follow
- 35:18shorts lower because
- 35:23again, once we start getting into like
- 35:24this area
- 35:27once we start getting around here
- 35:30I'm going to be watching this area to
- 35:33see if we actually bounce. Like first,
- 35:35I'm watching there and then I'm watching
- 35:36here, so
- 35:38it's just turning into areas where I'm
- 35:41cautious about trying to long it but or
- 35:44short it. But if we start getting lower
- 35:48which would be actually pretty nuts if
- 35:49we fell all the way down
- 35:52which I don't think is going to happen
- 35:53today, but
- 35:56if we do go all the way down here, then
- 35:57at that point, we're coming down to
- 35:5923,000.
- 36:01But that might happen like
- 36:03later
- 36:05this week.
- 36:06Maybe not today.
- 36:10But if this is going to remain like the
- 36:12low of the week for a while, at least
- 36:14for the first couple days, then we
- 36:16realistically shouldn't be getting below
- 36:17this area.
- 36:25But we're not going to try and
- 36:26guess. We're just going to see what
- 36:28happens when we start getting down here
- 36:30if we continue to push.
- 36:42Although not going to cap, if we open up
- 36:45on this 5 minute and retrace into this
- 36:46big trade and start slamming down, I'm
- 36:48going short.
- 36:59Mhm.
- 37:00Not if we close right here, though. Only
- 37:01if we close down here.
- 37:17All right, let's see. If it comes up
- 37:19here and stalls and then flips, I'm
- 37:22going short.
- 37:23If it just runs, then we're just going
- 37:24to let it run.
- 37:57I'm actually not going to do that
- 37:58anymore because
- 38:00we were stalling right here.
- 38:04Or should we just do it anyways?
- 38:12Nah.
- 38:16Let that one go.
- 38:29Cuz we
- 38:30realistically, when you're when I'm
- 38:31trying to catch those like continuation
- 38:34moves like that
- 38:36I don't want to see this candle open up
- 38:38and move down first. It makes me less
- 38:40inclined to try and do that. When you
- 38:42open up and we don't take this low like
- 38:45on the previous 5 minute
- 38:47and we immediately push higher and start
- 38:49coming back down, then I'm more likely
- 38:51to try and take it because
- 38:53then at that point, we're probably going
- 38:55to at least get past this low and I can
- 38:56move it to break even, but
- 38:59since we kind of wick down first and
- 39:01we're just
- 39:03stalling right here
- 39:05it's probably better
- 39:09if I just don't.
- 39:18We'll try and be uh a little bit more
- 39:20selective
- 39:23for this one so we can go three for
- 39:24three today.
- 39:28But even if I blow this account
- 39:32I don't even care.
- 39:35We hit profit target on two.
- 39:40We should be able to
- 39:42to at least pass one of them.
- 40:23Did anyone catch these shorts?
- 40:27Did anyone go short when I went short up
- 40:29here?
- 40:31And was actually able to hold it?
- 40:34Other than void. Oh, nice sell. Let's
- 40:37go.
- 40:45Hell yeah.
- 40:49Yeah, I just don't have any funded to
- 40:50trade right now because
- 40:53I
- 40:57I already locked out of this account. I
- 40:58made this on NQ shorts last night.
- 41:04And
- 41:07I locked out cuz I'm going to pull a
- 41:08payout. So, that's why we're just like
- 41:09trading
- 41:11evals. Although, if I was
- 41:14if I if I did take that on my funded
- 41:16account, I probably would have gotten
- 41:17out by the time it
- 41:20got over here.
- 41:29Uh sometimes it's POC taps, sometimes
- 41:33it's low volume nodes, sometimes it's
- 41:35big trades or clusters of big trades, or
- 41:38sometimes it's a stacked imbalance.
- 41:41Kind of depends.
- 41:53The best ones are usually
- 41:55stacked imbalances instead of low volume
- 41:57nodes.
- 41:59For continuations, I'll take those.
- 42:10But but only if we open up and
- 42:13immediately start moving in the wrong
- 42:15like in the opposite direction of of
- 42:17true pressure.
- 42:20Because I don't want us to like anytime
- 42:23I'm trying to take a continuation, I
- 42:24don't really want it to like
- 42:27open up and then push down and come back
- 42:29up and then try and enter because
- 42:32I'm looking for it to basically create
- 42:33the wick before it continues its
- 42:35momentum.
- 42:49Oh, nice.
- 42:51A POC trade? This like Okay, so the
- 42:55reason why I said I was looking at
- 42:57shorts right here is cuz we had a big
- 42:58trade in the POCs right here.
- 43:00But I just didn't want to take it
- 43:02because
- 43:03we went down first. If we would have
- 43:05opened up and pushed up immediately
- 43:08I would have taken it.
- 43:15Rocket, where do you think we're going?
- 43:17If you're liking the shorts.
- 43:19Where's the target?
- 43:33Yeah, I'd be pretty careful about trying
- 43:35to
- 43:36Asia lows, okay.
- 43:38I'd be pretty careful about trying to
- 43:40long this right now.
- 43:43Some
- 43:44some advice to anyone trying to catch
- 43:47the bottom of this
- 43:49is going to be
- 43:51don't.
- 43:55That advice right there might save you
- 43:57some money.
- 44:10Well, I think QQQ just technically
- 44:13filled the gap. We're heading towards
- 44:15562, which is what I'm watching
- 44:18to see if we're going to hold that.
- 44:22Or if we're just going to get past it
- 44:23and start melting.
- 44:56Nice, Joseph.
- 44:58Let's go.
- 45:13I hope nobody's been sitting here trying
- 45:15to
- 45:16trying to long this.
- 45:29Yeah, shorts was was free money today.
- 45:39It's a bummer I locked out of my account
- 45:41early.
- 45:42Nah.
- 45:44It really doesn't matter, dude. Like
- 45:45there was no point in making more
- 45:46profits on that
- 45:48funded account.
- 45:59Rocket, you think we're going to drop
- 46:01that much today?
- 46:04From the top?
- 46:07That we're going to drop 1,000 points
- 46:09right now?
- 46:12Actually, that'd be more than 1,000
- 46:14points.
- 46:22Shoosh.
- 46:24Jeez.
- 46:26You catch that, you're a legend, dude.
- 46:38So, now that we're getting into this
- 46:39area, I'm I'm whether or not we're
- 46:41actually going to continue
- 46:43the momentum lower.
- 46:47254, even lower.
- 46:50The 1,200 points?
- 46:53That would be a banger.
- 47:03Hey, but you know what?
- 47:06Dude, thank god.
- 47:09We got out of this mess. We were in this
- 47:12mess on a higher time frame for a
- 47:14minute.
- 47:15And then now that we're breaking out of
- 47:17it, we're actually getting like
- 47:18directional moves, which is pretty fire.
- 47:22But for a little while, it was uh
- 47:25it was pretty [Â __Â ]
- 47:29Look at that 4-hour close.
- 47:55All right, I'm going to try and go short
- 47:56right here.
- 47:58We're going to
- 47:59risk 1,000 bucks. Ooh, we're going to
- 48:01get smoked.
- 48:08We just need to make a low.
- 48:12Oh, you guys can't see it. My bad.
- 48:49We're going to get cooked.
- 48:53We got another bullet in the chamber
- 48:55though.
- 48:57We'll we'll risk uh We can have we could
- 49:00risk 1,000 bucks when we get stopped out
- 49:01of this one.
- 49:05Or we still have 1,000 bucks.
- 49:08Actually
- 49:09let's give ourselves
- 49:111,030 bucks.
- 49:30This is probably
- 49:32come back up towards
- 49:375
- 49:39>> 564 on QQQ.
- 49:52All right, we're going to try and um
- 49:56make a comeback on that one.
- 50:00But if we blow it, it's all right.
- 50:06Currently two for three
- 50:09on evals today.
- 50:55Don't open so Krish.
- 50:59Hey Tuba.
- 51:02Don't tell me what to do.
- 51:05How about that?
- 51:12I don't even know what that means. Open
- 51:13so Krish.
- 51:27No, it's all right. You're right.
- 51:29I got cooked.
- 51:38A 30-second pullback?
- 51:40That's crazy strat.
- 53:16Dude, Zal, I'm not going to sit here for
- 53:1930 minutes to wait for Powell because
- 53:22then what? Then he starts talking and
- 53:24then I got to
- 53:26then I got to wait for him to finish
- 53:27talking.
- 53:31It's just the eval, brother. It's all
- 53:33right.
- 53:35We already Look,
- 53:38we got to think about this in terms of
- 53:39the bigger picture.
- 53:42We're pulling a payout today
- 53:45for 46.97.
- 53:48We hit profit target on one. Let me log
- 53:50out of this.
- 53:53We hit profit target on two.
- 53:56Let me log out of this one, too.
- 53:59I don't know how to do it.
- 54:02So even if we blow this account,
- 54:06it's still a good day.
- 54:26I'm waiting.
- 54:28Tivaris, I'm waiting for the opportunity
- 54:31to full port.
- 54:34We got one bullet in the chamber. It's
- 54:36one in the chamber right now.
- 54:39We're going to fire off two minis.
- 54:43100 tick stop at the right time.
- 54:47Just going to wait
- 54:48for a second.
- 54:51We may or may not. It's kind of a coin
- 54:53toss at this point
- 54:56if we're going to
- 54:59we're going to blow the account or not.
- 55:02It's leaning a little bit more towards
- 55:04we're probably going to blow the account
- 55:06because
- 55:08we made a pretty strong move
- 55:10down this morning already, so there is a
- 55:13chance that we start to
- 55:19lose some of that momentum and uh
- 55:29Now, we'll see.
- 55:31We'll wait. We'll see what happens.
- 55:43Yeah, he's lurking.
- 55:47Well, on an eval, I usually either risk
- 55:50the entire account
- 55:54or a thousand bucks, so I have two
- 55:56trades.
- 55:59I don't recommend anyone does that, but
- 56:04I'm full porting evals with profits on
- 56:06the month, so
- 56:09it's kind of different.
- 56:22Cuz basically at this point I can full
- 56:24port evals all I want.
- 56:28And there's no way I mean, well, there's
- 56:29only two days left this month anyways,
- 56:31but there's no way
- 56:34I would even get close to break even on
- 56:36the month. There's like there's not
- 56:37there's not a chance.
- 56:42Unless we started buying like [Â __Â ] 20
- 56:45straight to funded accounts, then then
- 56:46maybe, but
- 56:50that would be a rough two days, yeah.
- 56:55That'd be a pretty rough I would have to
- 56:57probably blow like 70
- 57:0170 accounts.
- 57:06Dude, that's why prop firms are so lit,
- 57:07dude. They got that convex payoff where
- 57:14it's it's like asymmetric for
- 57:19uh
- 57:20it's like asymmetric for like money in
- 57:22money out, so like
- 57:24it starts to just become exponential
- 57:28once you pull payouts.
- 57:48Yeah, you have those guys who like go on
- 57:49Apex and like they blow, you know, a
- 57:52thousand accounts, but
- 57:56I mean, think about it.
- 57:58You take one max payout with Tops uh
- 58:01with Apex, you're like
- 58:03what? 2 * 20 40k?
- 58:08How many how many blown accounts would
- 58:10that 40k really cover? You know what I
- 58:12mean?
- 58:15And the activation fees, a lot.
- 58:22Or you can just like have 20 accounts,
- 58:24pull 40k payout, and then
- 58:27blow
- 58:29a thousand [Â __Â ] $30 evals.
- 58:34A thousand. And you'd still be up like
- 58:36what? 10 grand on the month?
- 58:40That just tells you how crazy that is.
- 58:45Oh, 2k?
- 58:52Mhm.
- 59:07I don't know, we're kind of slowing down
- 59:08a little bit. I'm starting to get
- 59:09nervous I'm not going to have an
- 59:11opportunity to full port this.
- 59:15I'm going to just full port it anyways,
- 59:16but
- 59:20at least a good opportunity.
- 59:35>> Pre-market rituals? Yeah, I do have
- 59:38pre-market rituals.
- 59:40Every morning it it's the same.
- 59:43I wake up.
- 59:48I put snooze on my alarm for maybe three
- 59:50times and then I finally wake up.
- 59:53And then
- 59:54I get out of bed.
- 59:57I pray.
- 59:59I go make a coffee.
- 1:00:02I take my my pre-market shits.
- 1:00:05I throw in a Zen.
- 1:00:08And then uh I drink my coffee and then
- 1:00:11look at the charts.
- 1:00:12It's literally how every morning uh
- 1:00:16Every morning that's how every morning
- 1:00:17goes for me.
- 1:00:22The breakfast of champions, some
- 1:00:24nicotine and coffee. That's all we have.
- 1:00:33But you can't forget the pre-market
- 1:00:35shits. You got to get it out before
- 1:00:37before market open. You can't be in the
- 1:00:40middle of a trade clenching cheeks.
- 1:01:08So I don't think I'm going to trade the
- 1:01:10live account today because the move of
- 1:01:12the morning kind of already happened.
- 1:01:14In my opinion.
- 1:01:21Before I get a payout, where does the
- 1:01:22money come from to buy a challenge?
- 1:01:25My bank account. What do you mean?
- 1:01:33Well Well, I mean here, first of all
- 1:01:37if you don't have a payout
- 1:01:41you got to be careful about full porting
- 1:01:43evals.
- 1:01:47But if you
- 1:01:49if you actually treated this like a
- 1:01:51business, then you would know your
- 1:01:53typical pass rate and you would know
- 1:01:55essentially cost per payout.
- 1:01:59On average.
- 1:02:03Like if you could just if you could pull
- 1:02:05payouts
- 1:02:06and you're treating this like a
- 1:02:07business, which you should be because
- 1:02:09you're self employed 1099 contractor for
- 1:02:13these companies.
- 1:02:16Um
- 1:02:18you would know how much money it
- 1:02:19typically cost you to take a payout.
- 1:02:24And then how big your typical payout is.
- 1:02:29And then you just do the math.
- 1:02:32But usually how you would do it is like
- 1:02:37you would just be careful in the
- 1:02:39beginning. You want to You want to
- 1:02:41always try and like go into the next
- 1:02:43month with a with a full
- 1:02:46with an account that's payable with like
- 1:02:48a healthy drawdown.
- 1:02:50And then you don't buy any evals. You
- 1:02:51just focus on getting a payout. You're
- 1:02:54instantly net positive for the month.
- 1:02:57And then you just take the profits and
- 1:02:59you just manage your bankroll and you
- 1:03:00just keep full porting evals and then
- 1:03:02keep pulling payouts and then you just
- 1:03:03never go net negative. And if you ever
- 1:03:05hit break even, just like chill.
- 1:03:09This month I blew a bunch of accounts,
- 1:03:10so I started the month off with no
- 1:03:12funded accounts after I blew like I
- 1:03:15fumbled like a $8,000 payout. I blew
- 1:03:18like eight funded accounts. I started
- 1:03:20tilting with Apex for like five days.
- 1:03:23I blew like 10 or 20 of their accounts.
- 1:03:28And then um
- 1:03:32I just snapped out of it and stopped
- 1:03:33being a loser and I just made my money
- 1:03:34back and then now I'm in profit for the
- 1:03:36month.
- 1:03:41So the streak continues of being net
- 1:03:42positive with firms. That's really all
- 1:03:44that matters
- 1:03:45at the end of the day.
- 1:03:47Now this month is not like this month
- 1:03:49after I take the payout today, I'll have
- 1:03:51like 10.8k
- 1:03:54in payouts
- 1:03:56for the month, but I spent like 25 or
- 1:03:58actually after today, I think I just
- 1:04:00spent like 250 this morning on evals.
- 1:04:03So I'll have uh
- 1:04:06it'll only be like 7,500 or like 8,000
- 1:04:11basically
- 1:04:13net positive before taxes, which is
- 1:04:18It's not the most amazing thing ever,
- 1:04:20but you know what? We started the month
- 1:04:21off pretty bad, you know? We We were
- 1:04:24able to come back from that.
- 1:04:28And you got to think like
- 1:04:30spent like $2,500 on fees. You know how
- 1:04:32many blown accounts? A lot of those were
- 1:04:34$30 Apex accounts and $55 Fidus
- 1:04:37accounts. So
- 1:04:40not a lot of them, but
- 1:04:42a handful a handful of them were.
- 1:04:47So I I don't know. I probably blew like
- 1:04:4840 I'd say maybe 30 to 40 accounts this
- 1:04:51month.
- 1:04:53But we're still net positive like 8
- 1:04:55grand.
- 1:04:59We would have been up more
- 1:05:03if uh
- 1:05:05>> [laughter]
- 1:05:06>> Right, me too. I
- 1:05:08gave them I gave them like I don't know,
- 1:05:09800 bucks this month. Didn't pull a
- 1:05:12single payout with Apex. It was kind of
- 1:05:14bad.
- 1:05:15Think I'm going to chill on the Apex
- 1:05:17thing.
- 1:05:20I would hate to like get denied. That
- 1:05:22would just it would just piss me off,
- 1:05:25dude. Honestly.
- 1:05:27It would It would probably cause me to
- 1:05:29tilt.
- 1:05:30If I spent all this time, all these
- 1:05:32accounts, got them up in balance
- 1:05:35try to pull a payout and then they
- 1:05:36pulled some [Â __Â ] it would it would
- 1:05:38piss me off, dude.
- 1:05:40It worry It it makes me worried.
- 1:05:44Trading Apex.
- 1:06:08Maybe I should just full port gold, bro.
- 1:06:13Mm.
- 1:06:19Mm. Should we go to gold?
- 1:06:27I need to make
- 1:06:282,500 bucks.
- 1:06:40No, let's stick with let's stick with
- 1:06:41NQ. I'm going to try and
- 1:06:45I'm going to try and just full port NQ.
- 1:06:49I'm going to wait for this 5 minutes to
- 1:06:51close.
- 1:06:57And then we're going to full port it.
- 1:07:00I'm going to go Well, you know what I'm
- 1:07:01actually going to do is I'm going to go
- 1:07:02two minis first.
- 1:07:09We'll try and hit 100 ticks.
- 1:07:13We'll try and like get a little bit more
- 1:07:15drawdown.
- 1:07:29And then we'll
- 1:07:33How many How many contracts does Lucius
- 1:07:35allow you to use four?
- 1:07:38It allow four contracts?
- 1:07:44So we need like
- 1:07:47Okay.
- 1:07:49We need like a little over
- 1:07:52Well Well, I I can't go four contracts
- 1:07:54with a $1,000 of drawdown. That's just
- 1:07:56asking to blow the account.
- 1:08:05So we'll start with two. We'll give
- 1:08:06ourselves 25 points
- 1:08:09to work with.
- 1:08:33But I think we need to wait cuz
- 1:08:39Mm. Should we just go short?
- 1:08:43I'm just going to go short.
- 1:08:48So this is where we blow our account
- 1:08:50right here.
- 1:08:53We're going to hope it Where would Where
- 1:08:55would we go back to break even on the
- 1:08:56day?
- 1:08:58Uh like right there?
- 1:09:03All right.
- 1:09:05Yeah, that's fine.
- 1:09:07I don't want to sit here all day.
- 1:09:09I'll be okay with being two for two for
- 1:09:12three on the day.
- 1:09:21You know what? We don't even need this.
- 1:09:24We don't need a stop.
- 1:09:26The account is the stop
- 1:09:28the drawdown.
- 1:09:40But yeah, after this trade um
- 1:09:43if it stops me out I'm just going to
- 1:09:47stop. I have some stuff I need to do.
- 1:09:49We're going to pull the payout
- 1:09:51later today
- 1:09:54for um
- 1:09:57Oh yeah, we're about to get cooked.
- 1:09:59We'll pull the payout later today for
- 1:10:054,700 and then
- 1:10:07we'll just go about business tomorrow.
- 1:10:10All right, we're out of that.
- 1:10:13All right, so recap recap.
- 1:10:16We blew one account.
- 1:10:19We hit profit target on one.
- 1:10:21We hit profit target on this one.
- 1:10:25And then from last night, I'm up 600, so
- 1:10:28we're going to pull a
- 1:10:30payout.
- 1:10:33And then I think I think uh
- 1:10:36I think tomorrow I'll probably full port
- 1:10:38some more Evos.
- 1:10:41Well, I'm definitely going to full port
- 1:10:42these two, try and pass one of them.
- 1:10:45But I think I'm going to buy some more.
- 1:10:47And try and full port those as well.
- 1:10:52All right, but I'm done. I'm done for
- 1:10:54the day, so
- 1:10:55I'll catch you guys later.
- 1:10:59Peace.
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