Let's tackle some foreshortening! 20 min pose (with reference) — Transcript

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1. 0:01yes this is the pose you meant I know um
2. 0:04let's do it this is going to be probably
3. 0:07the the hardest one of the evening but
4. 0:10it's a great one to finish on there's
5. 0:12our
6. 0:14timer let's go and
7. 0:17obviously really want to leave enough
8. 0:19room for ourselves over this side of the
9. 0:26page okay shoulder's going to be about
10. 0:29there
11. 0:33uper to
12. 0:39so more just like that
13. 1:02now
14. 1:04okay maneuver
15. 1:06him clavicle coming up shoulders
16. 1:11there this arm coming across here look
17. 1:14at the way the elbow is almost at the
18. 1:15edge of the form
19. 1:18there coming up something like that now
20. 1:21the only reason I really want to get
21. 1:23that in at this
22. 1:25point is because look at
23. 1:28where the calf is
24. 1:32calf is starting about
25. 1:36here yeah what a crazy
26. 1:42B and
27. 1:46then this foot is essentially as big as
28. 1:50her
29. 1:54Raposa we just get a sense for put that
30. 1:58there
31. 2:00I probably didn't need to come quite as
32. 2:02far over this way as I have but my
33. 2:05instinct was telling me I would need
34. 2:08it okay
35. 2:12so and we know that this is
36. 2:16really almost aggressively
37. 2:23foreshortened so if let's just suppose
38. 2:26that her shoulder is here
39. 2:30look at how close that heel
40. 2:33is the heel is about
41. 2:39there and then from
42. 2:43there come up this
43. 2:45way to above this
44. 2:50line and that's where her little toe
45. 2:54is then we come out further for the for
46. 2:58the toes
47. 3:02it's a whole different way of
48. 3:09thinking okay so we got the mass of the
49. 3:12foot in
50. 3:21there the
51. 3:22[Music]
52. 3:24heel
53. 3:27Arch sitting about there
54. 3:36and then her her
55. 3:40toes
56. 3:43there
57. 3:46madness
58. 3:48Okay so this
59. 3:57leg it's about here
60. 4:29something like
61. 4:32that clavicle coming up this
62. 4:39way that arm is going up
63. 4:46there something like
64. 4:55that the head will be approximately here
65. 5:12foot as large as AO hard to sell yeah
66. 5:14but look at
67. 5:16it really is
68. 5:26um that's great Helen I'm glad that
69. 5:28you're smiling that's that's a good
70. 5:32thing
71. 5:38okay that leg is going to be about there
72. 5:41now if we look at where this
73. 5:45knee like once again what's the overall
74. 5:49negative shape telling me here this knee
75. 5:52is sitting about here right
76. 6:00and then just as a very very basic shape
77. 6:02because that's all we can do right now
78. 6:04it's one step at a time we'll start with
79. 6:06our basic
80. 6:09shapes that leg is doing
81. 6:16that the ankle is
82. 6:20sitting around
83. 6:23here actually maybe a little higher
84. 6:32and this foot is coming out this
85. 6:45[Music]
86. 6:52way okay let's actually think about this
87. 6:55for a
88. 6:58minute
89. 7:02Anatomy the T cuz yeah this uh the
90. 7:06setting on glass thing is distorting the
91. 7:08form so I really want to try and think
92. 7:10of it in correct terms if at all
93. 7:14possible
94. 7:22um she this legs over this way
95. 7:41something like that
96. 8:09okay so I've got something's off here
97. 8:12but I think this is all roughly right
98. 8:14but I haven't enough volume down here
99. 8:17fact I haven't given myself enough of an
100. 8:18angle here that kind of resolves
101. 8:23it I was just not being quite generous
102. 8:26enough with my lower torso
103. 8:32about
104. 8:33there okay I can live with
105. 8:39that
106. 8:43cool
107. 8:53okay
108. 8:56so delto
109. 9:06Center Line is about there
110. 9:14actually deltoid is sitting
111. 9:21there
112. 9:25tricep forarm
113. 9:35by
114. 9:51So Okay so
115. 10:01ear is about
116. 10:24here about there I think
117. 10:45okay balr ask perhaps you've mentioned
118. 10:48this earlier is line of action something
119. 10:50you ever start with your drawings with
120. 10:52many books I've seen seem to be
121. 10:53mentioning the importance of drawing
122. 10:55that and I don't get the importance of
123. 10:56them to be honest um
124. 11:01yes absolutely uh line of action is very
125. 11:04very important and the reason I don't
126. 11:07talk about it is because I kind of
127. 11:09discuss it in different in different
128. 11:12terms when I'm talking about finding the
129. 11:14large idea of something that's
130. 11:16essentially what the line of action is
131. 11:18you know sometimes I'll talk about
132. 11:19there's extension on one side and then
133. 11:21there's compression on the other you
134. 11:23could say that that extension or you
135. 11:25know that extension follows from one
136. 11:27side of the rib cage through to the
137. 11:28support leg that type of thing this is
138. 11:31all essentially line of action um I
139. 11:34don't use that term very often even
140. 11:36though it's a term that I come from
141. 11:37animation obviously and it's a term
142. 11:39that's uh thrown around in animation all
143. 11:41the time um we're using we are using
144. 11:45those types of principles I'm looking
145. 11:46for line of action all the time and I I
146. 11:49do discuss it I just don't use that word
147. 11:51if that makes
148. 11:53sense um but we are thinking in those
149. 11:56terms and in fact balr I will I'll try
150. 11:58and make a point of of mentioning it
151. 12:01more or when I'm using a different
152. 12:03terminology for it I'll try and be more
153. 12:05mindful to to mention this line of
154. 12:07action thing because it is a concept
155. 12:09that gets talked about obviously an
156. 12:11awful lot and it's a very important
157. 12:13concept
158. 12:15um yeah I just I tend to just think of
159. 12:19it in slightly different terms let's say
160. 12:21not even think of it in different terms
161. 12:23I guess I just talk about it in
162. 12:24different
163. 12:27terms okay
164. 12:31so we got
165. 12:34the Cal sitting in
166. 12:45there the heel is
167. 12:55there do something like that
168. 13:23okay Elon thank you I'm glad to hear it
169. 13:26that's great really glad to hear it's
170. 13:27helping
171. 13:29that's nice it's always nice to
172. 13:40hear so we're not going to get into all
173. 13:44the toes here I don't
174. 13:46think
175. 13:49cuz it could just become too
176. 13:53much will suggest
177. 13:57them so we got
178. 14:02this it's almost like this yeah the the
179. 14:06pads of the feet sitting in there
180. 14:17right and then we got some Anatomy kind
181. 14:21of we need to be mindful of in
182. 14:24here but once again you know you could
183. 14:27you could very easily turn this into
184. 14:29into a 2hour drawing if you really want
185. 14:31to start explaining all the different
186. 14:33anatomical
187. 14:35ideas um I think that's probably a
188. 14:38session for another day
189. 15:00Helen let's let's talk about that in the
190. 15:02next session okay because this pose is
191. 15:05not really going to help us understand
192. 15:08that um to be honest with you um but
193. 15:12remind me if I don't think of it will
194. 15:14you remind me in the next session on
195. 15:15Saturday to to to talk about it um
196. 15:19because I think that's
197. 15:20easier
198. 15:22um but but you could say like you know
199. 15:25just even
200. 15:27here this is the line of action of this
201. 15:30foot right it's doing that type of thing
202. 15:34that's essentially what the line of
203. 15:35action is for for that particular idea
204. 15:39right but I I will talk about it in more
205. 15:42depth I just said we're a little late in
206. 15:44the proceedings right now to to get into
207. 15:46a whole um and I'd like to find a pose
208. 15:49where I can really I can demonstrate it
209. 15:52in a very very clear way so there's no
210. 15:55ambiguity about what it is that I'm
211. 15:57saying
212. 15:59[Music]
213. 16:35this has been quite the session
214. 17:19not happy with this shape
215. 17:43that and for those of you who want to
216. 17:45continue on Beyond this pose the poses
217. 17:49that we didn't use I would normally
218. 17:51remove from the website just to keep
219. 17:53things clean I'll leave them up for the
220. 17:56next day or two and then I'll probably
221. 17:58take them them down so if you do want to
222. 18:00continue practicing with
223. 18:02them um you'll have a day or so with
224. 18:08them but you never know there might be
225. 18:11poses there that we'll want to keep for
226. 18:12a future session so I will take them
227. 18:15down in a couple of
228. 18:20days how about this I'll leave them up
229. 18:22till I put up the session the the poses
230. 18:25for Saturday
231. 18:35need to pop in her rip cage
232. 18:40there all right I think I'm getting
233. 18:44close here
234. 19:15all right I think that this
235. 19:17is kind of at a point
236. 19:23where if I go too much further I'm kind
237. 19:25of going into a whole another stage of
238. 19:27drawing and
239. 19:31there's really not the time to take this
240. 19:35through another
241. 19:42stage so I think this is probably as
242. 19:45good a point as any
243. 19:48to call it a day
244. 20:08well mil you're too kind thank you so
245. 20:11much again um You' very very
246. 20:16generous
247. 20:18um guys what can I
248. 20:22say that's uh that was uh that was quite
249. 20:26the session huh