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  1. 0:03[music]
  2. 0:09>> It's an overwhelming characteristic
  3. 0:11[music] of yours.
  4. 0:13Probably if I could pick one word we
  5. 0:15have said in our probably thousand hours
  6. 0:17now of doing our pre-game conversations
  7. 0:19over these years, humility is probably
  8. 0:22the word that comes up most
  9. 0:24>> but I can also see where like trying to
  10. 0:26you know, I would also say like
  11. 0:29I can see where trying to remain humble
  12. 0:31also comes off prideful. So I think
  13. 0:32there's a balance there. Like I wouldn't
  14. 0:33I wouldn't necessarily call myself
  15. 0:35humble. I would say I'm aware of what
  16. 0:36humility looks like and I try to
  17. 0:38understand that but I wouldn't
  18. 0:39necessarily say I live up to that all
  19. 0:41the time and so my wife reminds me of
  20. 0:43this sometimes and she's right of like
  21. 0:45sometimes in the pursuit of going after
  22. 0:46that you actually come off looking
  23. 0:47worse. And so like I would say that's
  24. 0:49something that like I struggle with too.
  25. 0:50So you know, I think that's like a it's
  26. 0:52a tough balance, right? Because
  27. 0:54uh you know, you want to pursue that but
  28. 0:57in your pursuit of it you're you're not
  29. 0:59always going to reach it. So I mean that
  30. 1:01could be a moment where in my pursuit of
  31. 1:03trying to look at it from that
  32. 1:04perspective that it comes off a
  33. 1:05different way. So that's something that
  34. 1:07I could work on.
  35. 1:08>> The pushback I think from people came
  36. 1:10from the fact that this is the Boston
  37. 1:12Celtics and the history is important to
  38. 1:14everybody and you say that
  39. 1:16KC Jones isn't forgotten. Red Auerbach
  40. 1:18isn't forgotten. Doc Rivers just went
  41. 1:20into the Hall of Fame. He's not going to
  42. 1:21be forgotten and that while it isn't
  43. 1:23your goal to be remembered that part of
  44. 1:26the responsibility of being the coach of
  45. 1:28the Boston Celtics and having the
  46. 1:30stewardship you have and being say I
  47. 1:32don't know the voice of the Celtics for
  48. 1:3426 years
  49. 1:35>> Yeah, yeah.
  50. 1:35>> you recognize you're a you're a brick,
  51. 1:39right? Look at these bricks behind us.
  52. 1:41You're a brick and that
  53. 1:42that brick isn't going to be forgotten
  54. 1:44because when you come back one day as a
  55. 1:47cuz you're going to you said you want to
  56. 1:48come to the games, right? When it's all
  57. 1:49over and you're not the coach anymore,
  58. 1:51you're going to come to the games. Feel
  59. 1:52free to sit in on the broadcast. Uh
  60. 1:54you're going to come
  61. 1:55>> Open invite.
  62. 1:56>> in the building
  63. 1:57>> [laughter]
  64. 1:57>> Immediate no.
  65. 1:58>> But you're going to look up and you're
  66. 1:59going to see
  67. 2:012024. No matter what happens from this
  68. 2:03day forward, and I think people will
  69. 2:05say, "Yes, but what does he mean he
  70. 2:06wants to be
  71. 2:07>> Well, so I guess it's also two different
  72. 2:09perspectives because there's and uh and
  73. 2:12and this goes back to like there's three
  74. 2:13different people in the room. And the
  75. 2:16the people I everyone always says like
  76. 2:20the perspective of yes, when it's all
  77. 2:22said and done and I'm all done, what I
  78. 2:24love to come back here and be one of the
  79. 2:26bricks of like yes, we laid that
  80. 2:28foundation.
  81. 2:29While you're still in the arena.
  82. 2:31And I'm actually and I'm asking myself
  83. 2:35having only one
  84. 2:38And and this is a personal struggle. So
  85. 2:39I can you know, they people want to take
  86. 2:41this the way they want to, it doesn't
  87. 2:42matter. I'm being as vulnerable and
  88. 2:43honest as you can. Since winning and
  89. 2:46being a part of the Celtics where the
  90. 2:47best has won 11, one guy's won three,
  91. 2:50two, like
  92. 2:51the the pursuit towards the next one
  93. 2:54is the hardest thing.
  94. 2:56And I'm asking myself, I'm not sure
  95. 3:00what's harder, not getting one or only
  96. 3:02having one when you're a part of the
  97. 3:03greatest organization of all time. And
  98. 3:06so the answer to that question when
  99. 3:08you're all done and you exit the arena
  100. 3:09is very simple.
  101. 3:11I'm very you're grateful, your gratitude
  102. 3:13Doc Rivers, he's in the Hall of Fame,
  103. 3:14he's an amazing coach. The answer to
  104. 3:16that while you're in the arena is you
  105. 3:18cannot be happy with that because you're
  106. 3:20trying to go after another one. So like
  107. 3:22the other internal struggle is that of
  108. 3:24like there's the in the arena of like
  109. 3:27how do you appreciate something knowing
  110. 3:29that you have to get you have to get do
  111. 3:31it again. You have to.
  112. 3:33But then once you exit, whether you do
  113. 3:35or you didn't there's an appreciation
  114. 3:37there. And so
  115. 3:39that's that's a very that's that's the
  116. 3:41perspective that I'm always looking at
  117. 3:42is like right now for however long I'm
  118. 3:44still here.
  119. 3:45One's not enough.
  120. 3:46So like I I I can't
  121. 3:49you know, be a part of history or focus
  122. 3:51on one or like man I I set a brick like
  123. 3:54they're going to come back in 2024 like
  124. 3:55that's not good enough. That's not going
  125. 3:56to help us get to getting the next one
  126. 3:58sooner than later. What will is
  127. 4:02you know the the space of almost
  128. 4:03forgetting that you you did it. Because
  129. 4:06you got to take your mind to a
  130. 4:07completely different level to try and go
  131. 4:09after that. And so it's a it's internal
  132. 4:12tug of war and conflict of like the in
  133. 4:13arena perspective versus once I leave
  134. 4:15this you look at things differently.
  135. 4:17>> See that's not what got into people's
  136. 4:19algorithm.
  137. 4:20>> And that's the it's not.
  138. 4:22>> but I also didn't elaborate on it well
  139. 4:23enough.
  140. 4:24>> Yeah. Well that's why you're here.
  141. 4:25>> But [laughter] I don't think that's why
  142. 4:26I'm here but it came up so thanks.
  143. 4:28>> I think part of the thing that I want to
  144. 4:30emphasize there
  145. 4:31>> But it's a question that I'm asking
  146. 4:32myself. It's like while you're still in
  147. 4:34this
  148. 4:35one's not enough. So you have to have a
  149. 4:37balance of being ungrateful and grateful
  150. 4:40for already being a part of Celtic
  151. 4:41history.
  152. 4:42>> Duality.
  153. 4:42>> Which is a hundred which is really hard.
  154. 4:44It's really hard to look at from the
  155. 4:46fans perspective of like yes we made
  156. 4:48history you know we're going to be
  157. 4:49remembered and while you're in the arena
  158. 4:51of like I can't be grateful for that
  159. 4:53because I need to get another one. And
  160. 4:55we have to take it to another level from
  161. 4:57a mentality standpoint and do everything
  162. 4:59like you know there's been some people
  163. 5:01that I've talked to that I've tried to
  164. 5:02learn from since we've lost because
  165. 5:04losing hurts more. After you've tasted
  166. 5:06winning losing hurts way more.
  167. 5:08And that's what I'm learning and so
  168. 5:09we're on this journey um we're on this
  169. 5:11journey this process is going to take
  170. 5:13time. You have to go go through stuff
  171. 5:15but the people who have gotten extra
  172. 5:16have said the second one is way harder
  173. 5:17than the first and like it's almost and
  174. 5:19it's all mental. And you have to
  175. 5:22you know for lack I can't say the word
  176. 5:23that I want to say but you got to you
  177. 5:24have to mind
  178. 5:25>> Yeah yeah you can absolutely
  179. 5:27>> to you have to be able to do that and
  180. 5:29and that tug of war stuff. So it's a it
  181. 5:31is a duality it is a it is a conflict
  182. 5:33but it's something that you have to
  183. 5:34learn to leverage.
  184. 5:35>> But that drive I think is something that
  185. 5:37when someone just sees that clip in
  186. 5:39their algorithm
  187. 5:41they might lose sight of that that
  188. 5:42you're kind of
  189. 5:44I don't know if they pick up on the fact
  190. 5:45that you still have that drive. Like
  191. 5:47that is your goal is to win every year.
  192. 5:49You're not saying you want to be
  193. 5:50forgotten because you didn't win enough.
  194. 5:52You're saying you want to be forgotten
  195. 5:53because no matter how much you win, you
  196. 5:55want the next group to win more.
  197. 5:57>> And that's the responsibility to the
  198. 5:58Celtics is leave it the same or a little
  199. 6:01bit better than you found it and then
  200. 6:02set it up to where
  201. 6:04the next guy does so well that they get
  202. 6:06happy about him, you know, and and I
  203. 6:07think and again it it was a
  204. 6:09generalization quote but it's the it's
  205. 6:10the principle and the concept of what it
  206. 6:12means of like you know, get as many as
  207. 6:15you can, build it up as far as you can.
  208. 6:17Uh when you surrender to the fact that
  209. 6:19your own mortality and it's someone
  210. 6:20else's time,
  211. 6:22wish for them to do it even better and
  212. 6:24and be a part of that. And I think
  213. 6:25that's that's kind of what it's about
  214. 6:27and that
  215. 6:28Yeah.
  216. 6:28>> It's part of the privilege and pressure.
  217. 6:30>> Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's it's
  218. 6:32part of it.
  219. 6:33>> Good transition to uh our favorite game,
  220. 6:36random questions with Joe.
  221. 6:37>> Oh, no.
  222. 6:38>> Shall we get into it?
  223. 6:39>> Sure.
  224. 6:39>> All right. We do this every year with
  225. 6:40Joe. Sometimes it's rapid, sometimes
  226. 6:43it's not but
  227. 6:44>> People mail these in?
  228. 6:45>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are straight
  229. 6:46from the mailbag.
  230. 6:47>> [laughter]
  231. 6:48>> It's like leave them door with
  232. 6:49>> Yeah, you don't want to know what we
  233. 6:50would get in there.
  234. 6:50>> I actually I do. I would like to read
  235. 6:52those aloud.
  236. 6:52>> We can try that. All right, everyone in
  237. 6:53the YouTube comments submit your
  238. 6:55questions. We'll ask them to Joe later
  239. 6:56in the season.
  240. 6:57Um all right, so we're just going to run
  241. 6:58through these. We've got a bunch of
  242. 7:01random stuff here and we'll see what
  243. 7:02comes out of this. Number one is easy.
  244. 7:05How much coffee do you drink?
  245. 7:06>> Uh two to three cups a day, cut off
  246. 7:09after 11.
  247. 7:10>> Cut off after 11?
  248. 7:11>> Yeah.
  249. 7:12>> Cuz you won't go to bed?
  250. 7:13>> Yeah. Yeah.
  251. 7:14>> Don't you have an electronic device that
  252. 7:16tells you when you've had too much
  253. 7:17coffee? There's nothing connected to
  254. 7:18your
  255. 7:18>> No, no, no.
  256. 7:19The cut off 11 o'clock. Can't have any
  257. 7:21after that.
  258. 7:22>> Bob from Framingham wants to know.
  259. 7:23[laughter]
  260. 7:24>> I would love to do that though.
  261. 7:27>> Best lesson you've ever learned, how did
  262. 7:29you learn it?
  263. 7:30>> I mean, that could be answered at
  264. 7:32different phases of life. Uh like
  265. 7:33there's so many like the one I just
  266. 7:34learned like, you know, losing hurts way
  267. 7:36more after you win and the space of
  268. 7:39being in the arena
  269. 7:41of how do you go after, how do you be
  270. 7:43grateful for what you've gotten versus
  271. 7:44you need to have a level of like
  272. 7:47you need to have a level of going after
  273. 7:48more. Like it's it's this tough balance.
  274. 7:50So like that's kind of the lessons that
  275. 7:52I learned. I'm in that that space of
  276. 7:54learning right now. I think last year is
  277. 7:56also another great lesson of like how
  278. 7:58you could get staff of the year and blow
  279. 8:00a 3-1 lead in the same year. Like you
  280. 8:01could you can like that's just a duality
  281. 8:04of competition. Like it's a
  282. 8:06you know, you you
  283. 8:08accomplish so much as a team and at the
  284. 8:09end of the day you you don't live up to
  285. 8:12an expectation at the same time. Like
  286. 8:13that's another
  287. 8:15uh lesson that you have to kind of learn
  288. 8:17from and pull on. So like I think those
  289. 8:19those are like kind of the two that
  290. 8:20stick out right now. But you know,
  291. 8:22different phases of your life I guess
  292. 8:23you learn different lessons.
  293. 8:24>> All right, this one is also kind of
  294. 8:26introspective. Do you overthink things?
  295. 8:29>> Yeah. Oh, that's probably my worst
  296. 8:30quality.
  297. 8:31terrible
  298. 8:32>> an example.
  299. 8:33>> Um I mean I I it's like
  300. 8:36just constantly over analyzing. Like it
  301. 8:38was like it was interesting like when
  302. 8:39how I got the job or like oh, you only
  303. 8:40had a couple days before a training camp
  304. 8:41blah blah blah. That actually helped me.
  305. 8:43Because when it when like the more time
  306. 8:45you have the more you like tinker again
  307. 8:47like
  308. 8:48you know, we have our first uh I think
  309. 8:50it's like our first three practices. I I
  310. 8:52probably wrote them up 12 times already
  311. 8:54and it's going to change
  312. 8:55the morning of.
  313. 8:57Um so it's like little stuff like that
  314. 8:58that like
  315. 8:59you know, I always go back to like the
  316. 9:01NBA schedule versus the college
  317. 9:03schedule.
  318. 9:04I don't know what I would do if we had
  319. 9:05six five six days in between one game.
  320. 9:07Like it's actually easier that you only
  321. 9:08have 24 hours because it it shortens how
  322. 9:11much you have it teaches me how to be as
  323. 9:13efficient as possible in the preparation
  324. 9:14and exactly what to focus on versus like
  325. 9:17when I was in D2 you know, you play
  326. 9:19Saturday you don't play again till next
  327. 9:21Thursday or Friday. So you have like
  328. 9:22five days. What are you getting in?
  329. 9:23What's important? So this structure
  330. 9:25helps me with that.
  331. 9:26>> You You There's 200 possessions in the
  332. 9:28game
  333. 9:29and you're driving home afterwards. How
  334. 9:31much overthinking is connected to each
  335. 9:34one? Now, what amazed me I remember your
  336. 9:36first year we'd get on the bus, Mark,
  337. 9:37afterwards, and he'd be reading a book.
  338. 9:40>> Yeah.
  339. 9:40>> And I'd never seen that. I've never seen
  340. 9:42a coach not
  341. 9:44immediately jumping back into what just
  342. 9:46happened. You've got the laptop open and
  343. 9:47you're watching or whatever, talking
  344. 9:49about the game. And I thought it was
  345. 9:50extraordinary discipline to be able to
  346. 9:53>> to like this job has taught me to like
  347. 9:56create a system on focus on the most
  348. 9:59important working for Brad. Like focus
  349. 10:00on the most important things.
  350. 10:02And then you have to have a level of
  351. 10:03like perspective of like, you know, the
  352. 10:05coulda, woulda, shoulda. Could I have
  353. 10:06done this? Could I have done that? You
  354. 10:07have to, you know, have those two. But
  355. 10:08like create a system where you focus on
  356. 10:10the absolute most important things to
  357. 10:11which you can control and then just get
  358. 10:13better at those. Like So I you know, I
  359. 10:15probably that's the best thing I learned
  360. 10:16from Brad and and this this season makes
  361. 10:18you do that because
  362. 10:20you know, you you you can't live in that
  363. 10:21in the past space, you know, because you
  364. 10:23only have 24 hours.
  365. 10:25Yeah.
  366. 10:26>> What is the basketball cliché you hate?
  367. 10:29>> I mean there's a there's a lot of them.
  368. 10:30>> [laughter]
  369. 10:31>> That's the most.
  370. 10:32>> There's so many of
  371. 10:33>> There's only one that's the most.
  372. 10:35>> There's so many of them. Like
  373. 10:37I don't know. I I have to hear them.
  374. 10:39Like
  375. 10:39>> I actually have one that you just said.
  376. 10:41>> What is it?
  377. 10:42>> Blow a 3-1 lead.
  378. 10:45Cuz I
  379. 10:45>> it is what it is. Like it is what it is.
  380. 10:47Like, you know, we did it.
  381. 10:49Is that the first one in Celtic history?
  382. 10:50>> Yes. Congratulations.
  383. 10:52You're talking about you're not going to
  384. 10:53be forgotten.
  385. 10:54>> [laughter]
  386. 10:54>> There it is.
  387. 10:55Now you've done it.
  388. 10:56>> I will have to do something else so that
  389. 10:58they do forget that. Maybe I like that
  390. 10:59that they do want to forget.
  391. 11:01>> what's funny? I
  392. 11:01>> But isn't that beauty like the duality
  393. 11:03of like getting, you know, stabbed from
  394. 11:05that? Like that that those things as a
  395. 11:06competitor that you have to try and
  396. 11:07process. Very difficult, you know,
  397. 11:09living in that space.
  398. 11:11>> Like you you love that duality. Like you
  399. 11:13>> If you sum up what I'm like, that's the
  400. 11:15most thing I would do.
  401. 11:16>> But I I I also would like to apologize
  402. 11:18for I do would like to apologize for
  403. 11:20creating a level of hope that we did in
  404. 11:22the team and then I think that was some
  405. 11:23of it was like we just generated so much
  406. 11:25hope throughout the season and it all
  407. 11:27came crashing down. So like I will take
  408. 11:28full responsibility because there's
  409. 11:30nothing worse than hope going the other
  410. 11:33way. You know, like that's that's tough.
  411. 11:35>> So, you're apologizing for having that
  412. 11:39fever dream of a 56 win season
  413. 11:41>> the epitome of of what it means to like
  414. 11:43be in the in the arena and be a
  415. 11:45competitor. Like, you know, one of the
  416. 11:47things I read this summer that really
  417. 11:48stuck out is like when you really care
  418. 11:49about something, your heart's going to
  419. 11:51be broken.
  420. 11:52And uh it was um you know, it's it's a
  421. 11:54book that we read as a as a actually the
  422. 11:57whole organization, me and Bill
  423. 11:58put it together. Uh it's a great book,
  424. 12:00but like it was one of the chapters on
  425. 12:01care. And it was like when you love
  426. 12:03something and care about something, your
  427. 12:05heart's going to be broken. And that's
  428. 12:06exactly how I felt of like afterwards
  429. 12:08was like just broken heart.
  430. 12:11But cliches, they come up all the time
  431. 12:13like
  432. 12:14you know,
  433. 12:16I don't know. I mean, what's one that
  434. 12:17comes to mind?
  435. 12:18>> You just I Well, I'm just throwing one
  436. 12:19out there.
  437. 12:19>> You know what? I don't think I've ever
  438. 12:20agreed I don't agree with Mark much, but
  439. 12:23I have to tell you that interesting that
  440. 12:24you would use that term cuz I when
  441. 12:26people say they blew a 3-1 lead or Miami
  442. 12:28always blew a 3-0 lead, to me it's like
  443. 12:30you win or you lose. It's a series. So,
  444. 12:32what? How what does the order of the
  445. 12:34games
  446. 12:35>> how I feel about at the end of the
  447. 12:36season like I think because of the hope
  448. 12:38and the emotional aspect of like you
  449. 12:40know, of it, but like
  450. 12:42the I go through this this
  451. 12:44like rebuilding phase after the season,
  452. 12:47you know, because only one team wins.
  453. 12:49So, the other 29 feel some type of way.
  454. 12:52And then you're justifying how you feel
  455. 12:53about how the loss ended. So,
  456. 12:55you know, it's but at the end of the day
  457. 12:57you lost. So, you have to rebuild
  458. 12:58yourself back up.
  459. 13:00Um
  460. 13:02There's an off-the-record cliche that
  461. 13:03I'm not ready to open up this can of
  462. 13:04worms yet, but you know, that's not
  463. 13:06probably not in
  464. 13:07>> After the cameras go down, I can't wait
  465. 13:09to hear it. All right. I think this one
  466. 13:11should be interesting. Which player who
  467. 13:13you've coached
  468. 13:14is the best at debating?
  469. 13:16>> Oh.
  470. 13:17Man, there's a lot of them.
  471. 13:21>> [sighs and snorts]
  472. 13:22>> Does what Grant did with Jimmy Butler
  473. 13:23count as debating? Was he debating him?
  474. 13:25That doesn't seem fair, is
  475. 13:27>> Grant I think Grant's a great He was
  476. 13:29great
  477. 13:29>> in the show.
  478. 13:30>> [laughter]
  479. 13:31>> He was great. It was good though. Like
  480. 13:32it was necessary like um
  481. 13:35I think we all I think that that's we're
  482. 13:37all like that. Like I enjoy doing that.
  483. 13:39I think the players enjoy doing that.
  484. 13:41>> Yeah, I think that happens
  485. 13:43relatively regularly.
  486. 13:44>> Always looking for a good debate. Uh
  487. 13:46it's probably one of the
  488. 13:48uh things that we do the most like post
  489. 13:50practice. Like it was going on today.
  490. 13:51Like there was an argument going on
  491. 13:53uh about open gym and how it ended and
  492. 13:55like so like I'm right up there with
  493. 13:57him. Yeah.
  494. 13:58>> It says on my sheet, "What's the hardest
  495. 14:00thing you've ever done?" But I would
  496. 14:02amend it to, "What is the thing that
  497. 14:04looks the hardest that you haven't done
  498. 14:05yet?"
  499. 14:07Cuz I
  500. 14:07>> Well, since we're going with the theme
  501. 14:08of vulnerability, I'll say the hardest
  502. 14:10thing I've done
  503. 14:12has been
  504. 14:14uh
  505. 14:15like life without my dad. You know, so
  506. 14:18like the Miami series was the hardest
  507. 14:20thing I had ever done in life without
  508. 14:21him.
  509. 14:22And then, you know, when my youngest
  510. 14:25became old enough where I was like,
  511. 14:27"Damn, this kid's going to have a
  512. 14:28relationship like they would have been
  513. 14:29best friends." That was the next hardest
  514. 14:31thing.
  515. 14:32You know, when you know, you go through
  516. 14:34certain things where like you can't pick
  517. 14:35up the phone. You can't do it like
  518. 14:37that's been the hardest thing of like
  519. 14:40uh
  520. 14:41you I feel like as you get older your
  521. 14:43childhood self comes out. It comes out
  522. 14:45in your marriage. It comes out in how
  523. 14:46you parent. It comes out in how you
  524. 14:47coach. Like you're you're a product of
  525. 14:50like your childhood self plus the person
  526. 14:51you're trying to be. So to not be able
  527. 14:53to call and get the answer that you
  528. 14:55needed like, "Hey,
  529. 14:57how was I What was I like in this
  530. 14:58moment? Why did you do this in this
  531. 15:01moment? You know, what what failed for
  532. 15:03you that you would you would have told
  533. 15:05me if we went and got a cup of coffee."
  534. 15:07So like
  535. 15:08uh healing my childhood self, growing
  536. 15:11into the person I am now, that's been
  537. 15:13the hardest thing because I'm I can't
  538. 15:15I'm doing it without answers and I don't
  539. 15:17have
  540. 15:18I the memory or the facts to like to
  541. 15:20learn it. That's been the hardest thing
  542. 15:21by far.
  543. 15:22>> I lost my dad when I was 14. He didn't
  544. 15:25get to see anything that I ever did. And
  545. 15:27as you just answered that question, it
  546. 15:29made me wonder
  547. 15:30what was truly hardest, not having him
  548. 15:32when you lost to Miami or not having him
  549. 15:34to share with the championship?
  550. 15:36>> Lost to Miami.
  551. 15:37That's just how our our our relationship
  552. 15:39was built.
  553. 15:40>> would have made you feel better.
  554. 15:41>> He would have
  555. 15:42No, he would have made me feel worse.
  556. 15:44Which [laughter]
  557. 15:45What I'm learning is he would have made
  558. 15:46me feel worse, which would have made me
  559. 15:48>> far from the tree.
  560. 15:49>> No, he would have made me feel worse,
  561. 15:51which would have made me feel better. So
  562. 15:53like I'm That's the part that I'm like
  563. 15:55that that is a
  564. 15:56a weird thing of the relationship that
  565. 15:58we have. But that's the hardest thing.
  566. 15:59Like I can't go just say like, "Hey,
  567. 16:00like you know, how'd you handle this
  568. 16:02situation?" You have to kind of like dig
  569. 16:03deep and you got to remember, you got to
  570. 16:05like visualize, you got to
  571. 16:07like try to get the answer and then you
  572. 16:09don't really know what the answer was.
  573. 16:10You're going off what you thought the
  574. 16:11answer was, you know? So those That's
  575. 16:13That's the hardest thing. Everything
  576. 16:14else
  577. 16:15it's not that hard.
  578. 16:15>> All right, what's more important to
  579. 16:16success in the NBA, natural skill or
  580. 16:19confidence?
  581. 16:20>> Ooh.
  582. 16:20>> own wild card today.
  583. 16:21>> [snorts]
  584. 16:22>> Probably confidence.
  585. 16:23>> Yeah.
  586. 16:24>> I would imagine.
  587. 16:25>> Where's humility in this?
  588. 16:26>> That's a pursuit that we'll never
  589. 16:27understand.
  590. 16:30>> That makes me feel pretty fulfilled that
  591. 16:31you said confidence because I have like
  592. 16:33for my whole life, at least adult life,
  593. 16:36I have felt like confidence is the most
  594. 16:38important thing that you can have in
  595. 16:39sports. Like I I can feel like you know,
  596. 16:41someone can walk out onto the court and
  597. 16:43if the coach makes them feel
  598. 16:45>> Yeah.
  599. 16:46>> like they are going to deliver,
  600. 16:48they're going to believe they're going
  601. 16:50to deliver and it's going to improve
  602. 16:51what they do.
  603. 16:55>> your your current self as a husband,
  604. 16:56father. That's probably something that
  605. 16:57I'm not
  606. 16:58always the best at of like instilling
  607. 17:02quote-unquote confidence.
  608. 17:04Um
  609. 17:05to where because that wasn't something
  610. 17:06that like I was I I dealt with that.
  611. 17:10Of like my confidence came from
  612. 17:11different things. I also think
  613. 17:12confidence is something like
  614. 17:14it it all depends on how the individual
  615. 17:15person
  616. 17:17uh interprets that, right? Like I
  617. 17:18interpret
  618. 17:20confidence as you should be able to be
  619. 17:22your best self regardless of your
  620. 17:24circumstances and and just trust that.
  621. 17:26As opposed to some people are like, I
  622. 17:27need this ritual to be confident. I need
  623. 17:30to have this uh type of warm-up or I
  624. 17:32need to do this. Like everyone has their
  625. 17:35own different interpretation of that.
  626. 17:37And so part of going to see people is is
  627. 17:39understanding
  628. 17:42who they are and what makes them tick so
  629. 17:43I could be better at tapping into that
  630. 17:45so that I can make them
  631. 17:475% more confident during the game. That
  632. 17:49that's that's
  633. 17:50part of the true answer of like, okay, I
  634. 17:52got to go into this person's space and
  635. 17:54learn more about him because I got to
  636. 17:56connect better so that maybe he feels
  637. 17:57more confident. So when that shot goes
  638. 17:59up in the middle of the fourth quarter,
  639. 18:00it's different than it was in the past.
  640. 18:02>> Why does that not translate to
  641. 18:03parenting?
  642. 18:05Athletes.
  643. 18:05>> Well, because I think for me you always
  644. 18:07parent your kids the way you were
  645. 18:08parented, which is is and and I I again,
  646. 18:11this is me. Like I end up parenting my
  647. 18:13kids the way I I was parented. And that
  648. 18:15might not be how they need it at that
  649. 18:17particular time, you know?
  650. 18:20>> I got to say something about confidence.
  651. 18:21I was so irrationally confident when I
  652. 18:24started here that it was like, when did
  653. 18:26T Lue get here? Like probably 2011,
  654. 18:30somewhere around there. I had only been
  655. 18:31here for a couple years. And I walked
  656. 18:33out on the court, we were talking, and I
  657. 18:34was like, if I had my sneakers right
  658. 18:36now, like I would check you. He's an NBA
  659. 18:39player, like not that far retired, but
  660. 18:41my brain was like I was so irrationally
  661. 18:44confident at that time. I don't know if
  662. 18:45I would have been successful, but I
  663. 18:46really believe
  664. 18:47>> think you I also think you need some of
  665. 18:49that in order to be successful. Like
  666. 18:51it's a weird balance of like irrational
  667. 18:53confidence versus reality versus like
  668. 18:56truth. Like it's a balance. You need a
  669. 18:58little bit of both.
  670. 18:59You know?
  671. 19:00>> I had the
  672. 19:01little bit more of the irrational
  673. 19:02portion.
  674. 19:02>> Look at Look at last year. Look at what
  675. 19:04happened last year. When you
  676. 19:07believe things are possible, especially
  677. 19:08it's I Is it easier when the rest of the
  678. 19:10world doesn't seem to think it's
  679. 19:12possible.
  680. 19:14>> I mean I don't think
  681. 19:14>> it make it harder?
  682. 19:15>> It's all It is what it is.
  683. 19:18It is what it is.
  684. 19:19>> All right, I got one more on here and
  685. 19:21then Sean has one. What's the most
  686. 19:22addictive part of your profession?
  687. 19:25>> I thought [snorts] you were going to say
  688. 19:26what's the most like addictive part of
  689. 19:27like my personality. I was like, man.
  690. 19:29>> [laughter]
  691. 19:30>> You don't have time for that.
  692. 19:32>> The most addictive part of the
  693. 19:33profession
  694. 19:35is probably
  695. 19:37I again, for me personally it's the
  696. 19:40adrenaline that you get
  697. 19:42in the middle of the game.
  698. 19:44>> In the middle of the
  699. 19:45>> Yeah, like you like after the game
  700. 19:48you you it's almost like you're coming
  701. 19:49it's it's such you're coming so far
  702. 19:51down.
  703. 19:52And and so for me it's like in the
  704. 19:55middle of the game middle of the third
  705. 19:57quarter when it's a one or two
  706. 19:59possession game and you have no idea how
  707. 20:00the game is going to end. From that
  708. 20:02space to the end is the most addicting
  709. 20:04part of like
  710. 20:06you just you're just in it. You have to
  711. 20:08take it to a different level. You got to
  712. 20:10you got to
  713. 20:11see things. You got to make calls. You
  714. 20:12got to get guys going. Uh that's the
  715. 20:14most addicting part to me.
  716. 20:16>> I thought you were going to say film.
  717. 20:19>> No. [snorts]
  718. 20:19>> Not for you in particular, but like in
  719. 20:21the profession in general. I feel like
  720. 20:23>> Oh, yeah, I don't know. I mean probably
  721. 20:25it's probably guys that you know, I mean
  722. 20:26>> Cuz those moments you're talking about
  723. 20:28is when you're using That's when you
  724. 20:29feel the most alive.
  725. 20:31>> Exactly. That's when you're like that's
  726. 20:32like you feel like the most alive. Like
  727. 20:34>> That's why people love being there.
  728. 20:35>> you get like then I'm sitting on the bus
  729. 20:37after the game and I'm like
  730. 20:39man, I can't wait for that to happen
  731. 20:40again.
  732. 20:41>> [laughter]
  733. 20:41>> You know.
  734. 20:42>> Unfortunately, you only have to wait a
  735. 20:43few days.
  736. 20:44>> There was a game There was game one of
  737. 20:46the Miami series
  738. 20:48my first year. It's like the tension the
  739. 20:49little tensions that build up is the
  740. 20:51most addicting. So there was this
  741. 20:52tension at the beginning of the fourth
  742. 20:53quarter where it was like a cat and
  743. 20:55mouse where
  744. 20:56it was what we were down 3-2
  745. 20:58and they had blown both timeouts and
  746. 21:02they had two timeouts going into the
  747. 21:03fourth quarter and they They the home
  748. 21:05team so they were getting the first
  749. 21:07quarter of it. And so we had to hang on
  750. 21:09for dear life so that they only had one
  751. 21:11heading into the last 6 minutes, you
  752. 21:13know, because then that's going to
  753. 21:14dictate whether you know, what kind of
  754. 21:16decisions that they make for the rest of
  755. 21:17the game.
  756. 21:18So at the at you know, so we're talking
  757. 21:20about it as a staff and at the at the
  758. 21:22end of the third timeout I let the guys
  759. 21:24know like fellas they have two. We got
  760. 21:26to make them call this one. And then
  761. 21:28they go on like a six or eight or run
  762. 21:29and like everyone's hanging on for dear
  763. 21:31life.
  764. 21:32>> Except for the fans. You're like call a
  765. 21:33timeout Joe. What do you think?
  766. 21:35>> And like we're all like I'm walking back
  767. 21:36to the bench and I'm like man we are in
  768. 21:37it right now. Like we like we got to
  769. 21:39hang on. Got to hang on.
  770. 21:41And
  771. 21:42that that's the most addicting part
  772. 21:44right there. That stuff.
  773. 21:46>> The last one I have here is what's the
  774. 21:47most interesting thought you've had
  775. 21:49today? I'm not sure it wasn't that one.
  776. 21:53>> Most interesting thought? I mean
  777. 21:54this whole thing. You know, it's been
  778. 21:56fun.
  779. 21:57>> Did people could interpret a comment
  780. 22:00innocuous
  781. 22:00>> No, I mean I think it No, I think I I
  782. 22:02think it's it's gives me a good
  783. 22:04opportunity to like you know, actually
  784. 22:07I can be better at
  785. 22:09um
  786. 22:11explaining things better from that
  787. 22:12perspective of like not leaving it
  788. 22:14open-ended and getting to the the true
  789. 22:16the true bottom of that of what you
  790. 22:18actually really mean in the perspective
  791. 22:20how you look at it. It's also you know,
  792. 22:21as a coach I always everyone tells me
  793. 22:24like my staff tells me this of like
  794. 22:26sometimes I'll come in and I'll just sit
  795. 22:28like like that comment right there.
  796. 22:31I've thought about it. I've put time
  797. 22:32into it. I'll just come into and I'll
  798. 22:34just say it. But people don't have the
  799. 22:36context of it and so they don't trust
  800. 22:37it. Happens with the staff sometimes of
  801. 22:39like you know, I'll say something or
  802. 22:40like I'll come up with this idea and
  803. 22:41like this whack job like what you're at
  804. 22:43it again. It's like no, no, no, I
  805. 22:45actually like really have been thinking
  806. 22:46about this.
  807. 22:47And um
  808. 22:48>> to the madness.
  809. 22:48>> Yeah, [clears throat] and so you know,
  810. 22:50but and so there's times where I have to
  811. 22:51take three steps back, explain it and
  812. 22:53then the staff's like oh, yeah. That
  813. 22:55makes sense. Like you're not as dumb as
  814. 22:56we thought you were.
  815. 22:58And I'm like yeah. And so you know, this
  816. 23:00was a good lesson to be able to like
  817. 23:01when you're talking about stuff like
  818. 23:02that you have to explain it more.
  819. 23:04>> Well, you have a novel brain in a
  820. 23:0610-second sound bite world and that's
  821. 23:08going to happen.
  822. 23:08>> Well, that's the other thing. It's I
  823. 23:10mean it's nearly impossible in this
  824. 23:11>> It's also funny I didn't know this cuz I
  825. 23:12don't have any social media. So that
  826. 23:14this is the first I'm hearing about this
  827. 23:15that it wouldn't go well. So I never
  828. 23:17want to let
  829. 23:17>> Someone in the room didn't report it to
  830. 23:19you.
  831. 23:19>> I never want to let the Celtic fans
  832. 23:21down.
  833. 23:21>> [laughter]
  834. 23:22>> So I apologize for
  835. 23:24>> [gasps]
  836. 23:24>> doing that.
  837. 23:25>> We've had enough apologies from you
  838. 23:27today. We got to thank you for giving us
  839. 23:29almost an hour. This has been great.
  840. 23:31Hopefully all the fans out there get a
  841. 23:32little bit more perspective
  842. 23:35on some of the comments that come out of
  843. 23:36your mouth and more some interesting
  844. 23:38things about the team this year. We're
  845. 23:39looking forward to it and I think this
  846. 23:41is a great way to tip off the season. So
  847. 23:42Joe, we appreciate it, man.
  848. 23:44>> Yeah, of course. We'll see you on the
  849. 23:44other side.
  850. 23:49>> [music]

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