Legendary Investment Tier List [F2P & Low Spend -- Open Field] Rise of Kingdoms July 2026 — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hello my friends, welcome back. I'm
2. 0:01Chisgule Gaming and in today's video,
3. 0:03sponsored by the makers of Rise of
4. 0:04Kingdoms, we're updating my legendary
5. 0:06investment tier list and we're using a
6. 0:07new tool. This website was put together
7. 0:10by Cortex. You already knew that though,
8. 0:13because in our $500 giveaway, this is
9. 0:15one of the sites that you could go and
10. 0:16check out. And one of the things you can
11. 0:18do for Rise of Kingdoms is build out
12. 0:20your own tier list. So, I'm finally
13. 0:22moving over to Cortex's site and he's
14. 0:25joining me today to build out an updated
15. 0:28version of my legendary investment tier
16. 0:30list. Cortex, welcome to the vid.
17. 0:34>> Thank you, thank you, and thanks for
18. 0:35having me. I think
19. 0:37I think we can we can cook up some good
20. 0:38tier lists here.
21. 0:39>> We are going to cook, baby. And a part
22. 0:42of the reason I thought it'd be fun to
23. 0:43have you on is to chat about some of
24. 0:45these choices. And some of this is
25. 0:48incredibly straightforward. For example,
26. 0:51I would say that some things we know are
27. 0:53true, they're completely unchanged from
28. 0:54the last time that I did this list.
29. 0:56We're going to put QSH and Sun Tzu Prime
30. 0:59all the way up at the top. They are meta
31. 1:02breaker tier. And this tier, for those
32. 1:04of you who are newer to my investment
33. 1:06tier list,
34. 1:08is something that I added only in like
35. 1:10the last year or so. It's honestly when
36. 1:13they put QSH in the game, I saw he was
37. 1:16so powerful that like we actually had to
38. 1:18add a new tier to the tier list. That's
39. 1:21how busted it is. Now, both QSH and Sun
40. 1:24Tzu Prime belong at this meta breaker
41. 1:27tier. I don't think that unfortunately
42. 1:29for cavalry, Achilles belongs at that
43. 1:32tier. We drop him down in high priority.
44. 1:36Now, I previously had this named pair
45. 1:38with future.
46. 1:40Uh and the idea is that these are
47. 1:41commanders that not only will be good
48. 1:43now, but they'll be good later. This is
49. 1:45not a tier list about the power level
50. 1:47today, it's a tier list reflecting how
51. 1:51long I think you will get value if you
52. 1:53put sculptures into these commanders.
53. 1:55So, of course I think they're good
54. 1:56today, but I also think they have a lot
55. 1:58of potential to be good tomorrow.
56. 2:01Now, Cortex, I think you're going to
57. 2:03agree with this.
58. 2:05But, in the old version of my list, I
59. 2:06had Alp Arslan at the meta breaker tier.
60. 2:10I feel like he is very good,
61. 2:12but I do think he needs to get bumped
62. 2:14down to high priority. Would you agree
63. 2:16with that?
64. 2:17>> I do agree. I think he is very, very
65. 2:20good. I mean, so high priority is very,
66. 2:22very good commanders, obviously, but I
67. 2:24do also think that myself as well
68. 2:28overestimates him a little bit from
69. 2:30initial testing because he just looks so
70. 2:31good, especially in the one-v-ones. He's
71. 2:33just dominating everyone. And also in
72. 2:35the five-v-fives, but after seeing now,
73. 2:37I haven't even tried him myself in KVK
74. 2:39yet, but after seeing results from other
75. 2:41players, he is very, very good, but he's
76. 2:43not quite that QSH Sun Tzu Prime level.
77. 2:47So, I think high priority is a fair tier
78. 2:49for him.
79. 2:50>> Yeah.
80. 2:51I I agree. Now,
81. 2:53there are some infantry commanders we
82. 2:55need to rank and some cavalry commanders
83. 2:57that probably also go into high
84. 2:59priority. Where's your head at with
85. 3:01commanders like BQ,
86. 3:03who I'm going to drop in the high
87. 3:04priority?
88. 3:05>> I think he does sit in high priority,
89. 3:07yes. I also think Lucius probably
90. 3:10belongs in the same tier, in high
91. 3:11priority.
92. 3:13>> Mhm. Let me go find him real quick.
93. 3:15>> having some commander blindness, there's
94. 3:17a handy little filter button at the top.
95. 3:19Um if you want to look for any infantry
96. 3:21commanders,
97. 3:22okay, cool. You can hit
98. 3:25>> Ah.
99. 3:25>> And you can
100. 3:26>> Ooh.
101. 3:28Okay, that is handy. Okay, let's do
102. 3:30infantry.
103. 3:32This is nice. I'm not used to like a
104. 3:33tier list with sorting options. Okay,
105. 3:35cool.
106. 3:36It's almost like you made a tier list
107. 3:38for Rise of Kingdoms players.
108. 3:39>> Yes.
109. 3:41>> That's exactly what he did. Site's
110. 3:42linked down below. Okay, um
111. 3:44cool.
112. 3:45So, we put LC in there. All right. Uh
113. 3:48and you think both of them are high
114. 3:49priority. If you had to pick one or the
115. 3:51other, which one would you pick?
116. 3:53>> I think I would give it to Byci. I think
117. 3:56he's slightly stronger.
118. 3:57>> Yeah, I agree.
119. 3:58>> I think I think Luche is nice in the
120. 4:00sense of the combo attacks are very good
121. 4:02at procking different things and good
122. 4:04regeneration, but I think just BQ's
123. 4:06damage is just too much to
124. 4:09to put Luche higher. But I think it's
125. 4:11quite close between the two.
126. 4:13>> Okay.
127. 4:14And then I think that covers our
128. 4:15infantry.
129. 4:17But now we got to talk about calves.
130. 4:20Where are we putting Arthur and GG? I
131. 4:22just dropped them in so I wouldn't lose
132. 4:24them.
133. 4:25Um but
134. 4:27I mean
135. 4:29I previously
136. 4:30had GG up here and Arthur down there.
137. 4:33I think you could make an argument for
138. 4:35longevity's sake that Arthur does really
139. 4:38boost combo attack damage a lot and that
140. 4:41because he does that, he has longevity.
141. 4:43So like I can see the argument being
142. 4:45made for that even though
143. 4:47I mean I don't know. I Arthur with
144. 4:49Achilles is the best single archer march
145. 4:52or a calf march, right?
146. 4:54>> Yeah, I do think that Arthur will maybe
147. 4:59survive longer in the meta than GG will.
148. 5:03So I do think he belongs in the same
149. 5:05tier.
150. 5:07Like thinking about it like if if let's
151. 5:09say we got two busted OP AoE combo
152. 5:12cavalry commanders right now.
153. 5:13>> Yep.
154. 5:14>> I think I would likely end up using
155. 5:16Achilles with one of them and Arthur
156. 5:17with one of them. I do not think GG
157. 5:19would survive that.
158. 5:21Mhm, personally.
159. 5:23So I I do think Arthur
160. 5:26does belong at least in the same tier as
161. 5:28GG.
162. 5:30>> And since we are talking about cavalry,
163. 5:32David
164. 5:33he would be niche for open field, right?
165. 5:36Like if you had three marches of calves
166. 5:38and you're running all combo or
167. 5:39something.
168. 5:40>> For open field, yeah, very very niche.
169. 5:42>> Yeah. Yes.
170. 5:44Okay. And this is an an field tier list
171. 5:45by the way. So, we're really only
172. 5:48concerned about open field.
173. 5:50Um now,
174. 5:52I suppose that
175. 5:53open field doesn't include garrison
176. 5:55swarming, so I'll leave Belisarius Prime
177. 5:57off of this list entirely.
178. 5:58>> [laughter]
179. 5:59>> Yeah.
180. 6:00>> Uh don't max Belisarius Prime.
181. 6:03Yeah, Nevsky, bro. Okay. So, um
182. 6:07we should talk about leadership.
183. 6:10And we should rank
184. 6:12Verci
185. 6:14and we should rank Hector.
186. 6:15Um
187. 6:16first Hector,
188. 6:18where would you put Hector? Is he niche?
189. 6:20>> Ooh, I think he's niche.
190. 6:21>> priority?
191. 6:23>> I think he's niche.
192. 6:24>> He's niche. I agree.
193. 6:26He niche role, this category is designed
194. 6:29for commanders that fill a very, very
195. 6:32specific, narrow function. And right
196. 6:34now, that is to pair with Arthur. That
197. 6:37role is going to be incredibly
198. 6:38short-lived because, although it's meta
199. 6:40now,
200. 6:41very soon, we will be getting something
201. 6:43else to replace that
202. 6:45in the next couple months, and it's
203. 6:47probably going to be very good. So,
204. 6:48presumably,
205. 6:50that new commander is not going to be
206. 6:51insane with Hector. It's more likely, if
207. 6:54they care about combo attacks, that it's
208. 6:56going to be really good with Arthur.
209. 6:58Um
210. 6:58>> Yeah, and there could be an argument for
211. 6:59also Hector with like three infantry,
212. 7:01but I like this is an investment tier
213. 7:03list at the end of the day, right? So,
214. 7:05putting it in low priority, even if it's
215. 7:07like you're past the Hector train now,
216. 7:09right? Like if you were going to do
217. 7:10Hector, you would have done it when when
218. 7:11he released, and you would have used him
219. 7:13with Arthur, and then maybe transition
220. 7:14him into infantry if you get a new
221. 7:16pairing for Arthur. But you're investing
222. 7:18into Hector at this point feels, yeah,
223. 7:20pretty pretty bad.
224. 7:22>> Yeah, if you had done it like at the
225. 7:24time, you would have got a good year out
226. 7:26of him.
227. 7:27It is what it is. You potentially move
228. 7:29on.
229. 7:30And if you're one of those garrison
230. 7:31guys, then like that's a different
231. 7:32story. But okay. So, scaling up the
232. 7:35ladder of leadership commanders, now
233. 7:37Philip.
234. 7:39Philip I had previously in low priority.
235. 7:44>> I think he also probably goes into
236. 7:46niche, right? Or am I crazy?
237. 7:48>> bump him down?
238. 7:50>> Yeah.
239. 7:51>> So, you don't think most people should
240. 7:53use him?
241. 7:55>> Well,
242. 7:56you using him where like but I think he
243. 7:59fits the same role that Hector kind of
244. 8:02does, right? Where he's just there kind
245. 8:04of hanging out and I mean, he's more
246. 8:06versatile than Hector, but he's kind of
247. 8:09there just hanging out
248. 8:12barely holding on until you get a better
249. 8:14option. Like he's not some some
250. 8:17commander you should actively look at
251. 8:18investing into, at least not in my
252. 8:20opinion.
253. 8:21>> I see that's why I figure he's kind of
254. 8:23in low priority a little bit. Let me
255. 8:25differentiate him from Hector.
256. 8:27Cuz when we were doing our 5v5 testing,
257. 8:29right? You couldn't put Hector in the
258. 8:31mix and change your fortune.
259. 8:34You know? You couldn't like just swap in
260. 8:36Hector and suddenly your whole ball
261. 8:38trades better and you're winning a 5v5
262. 8:40you were losing, but when you swapped in
263. 8:42Philip, you went from taking an L to
264. 8:44taking a W, right?
265. 8:47>> Yeah, I guess in the 5v5 he did look
266. 8:49very good. So, maybe low priority is
267. 8:50fine. I just like I want to state like
268. 8:53people shouldn't be looking to invest
269. 8:54into Philip at this point, right?
270. 8:56>> That's fair.
271. 8:57>> a commander you should look at investing
272. 8:58into.
273. 8:59>> Yeah, I mean, I think in general
274. 9:02the goal should be to only do meta
275. 9:04breaker and high priority
276. 9:07and you only ever look to low priority
277. 9:09if you're just so far ahead.
278. 9:12Like you shouldn't most players should
279. 9:14never look to this tier of low priority.
280. 9:16>> That's fair.
281. 9:18>> Which brings us Versey.
282. 9:20>> Yeah, I mean, I think he belongs in the
283. 9:22same tier as Philip.
284. 9:24>> Yeah.
285. 9:24>> Personally.
286. 9:26>> I think so.
287. 9:27>> both quite similar in their strength.
288. 9:30Like obviously they do very very
289. 9:31different things as commanders, but in
290. 9:33terms of effect on the ball and and in
291. 9:36terms of strength as individual
292. 9:38commanders, I feel like they're quite on
293. 9:39par.
294. 9:40>> Mhm.
295. 9:42I totally agree.
296. 9:44Now, that brings us to archers, and I
297. 9:46already had El Cid, we talked about him
298. 9:49cuz he was in my meta breaker tier, but
299. 9:50I'm I kind of moved him down.
300. 9:53Um
301. 9:54there's one more archer we ought to put
302. 9:56up here, maybe.
303. 9:59I mean, we only have two archers on this
304. 10:00thing. The options are
305. 10:03your sort of Herman Prime
306. 10:06and
307. 10:08I mean, I'm not going to throw Shajar in
308. 10:10there, but like Zhuge Liang.
309. 10:14>> YSG?
310. 10:16>> I suppose we could put YSG up on the
311. 10:18board.
312. 10:19I would almost put YSG in niche.
313. 10:22So, I threw a bunch of things on here
314. 10:23now. We can talk about maybe where they
315. 10:25go.
316. 10:27But
317. 10:28the reason I feel like YSG is niche is
318. 10:30cuz Zhuge is better. And the place where
319. 10:32Zhuge is better is with QSA,
320. 10:35and that's the most important march in
321. 10:37the game.
322. 10:38And we know that Zhuge is so important
323. 10:41because when we did 5v5s
324. 10:43it was a night and day difference to
325. 10:47bring Zhuge Liang or not. It was It was
326. 10:49insane.
327. 10:52>> Yeah, I think that's fair cuz YSG I
328. 10:55mean, and it's fair also in the sense
329. 10:57that Zhuge Liang is not necessarily
330. 10:58niche either because he does like he
331. 11:01does well with any other archer
332. 11:03commander, whereas YSG is only a QSH
333. 11:05pairing.
334. 11:06And I think that's also true for Well,
335. 11:09okay, not necessarily, but that's where
336. 11:11he really shines, right?
337. 11:12>> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I
338. 11:14actually, if I'm remembering correctly,
339. 11:17I feel like YSG was the one that was
340. 11:19shockingly good with El Cid,
341. 11:21and Zhuge Liang was like strangely not
342. 11:23good, and and I couldn't figure it out.
343. 11:25>> You're right. I remember that as I was
344. 11:27saying it.
345. 11:28>> Yeah.
346. 11:29>> So, it is possible that
347. 11:32but I feel like for most players
348. 11:35YSG is niche. Like for me for example, I
349. 11:37will be using YSG because I'm a three
350. 11:39archer march player. So I will still be
351. 11:41running the QSH YSG and then I'll be
352. 11:43running I'll be running Al with Herman
353. 11:45and then Philip with Zhuge Liang, right?
354. 11:48>> Yeah.
355. 11:49>> Um
356. 11:50And Herman I think definitely belongs in
357. 11:51niche. He's very very good at the one
358. 11:54pairing with Alp Alp Arslan, but like if
359. 11:56Alp Arslan isn't there, Herman isn't
360. 11:58making it either anymore. So
361. 12:00>> Right.
362. 12:01>> He is dependent on Alp Arslan being in
363. 12:04in the meta for Herman to exist. And
364. 12:06Herman could be replaced by a stronger
365. 12:07commander.
366. 12:08>> Dude, so I'm prepping a vid with Versey
367. 12:11and Canyon and I'm actually not as
368. 12:13impressed as I thought I would be with
369. 12:14him. Although I'll talk about that in a
370. 12:16minute.
371. 12:18But
372. 12:19I was kind of surprised that like the
373. 12:21top teams are using Herman Prime with
374. 12:24Alp Arslan and the DPS this march is
375. 12:27putting out
376. 12:29it's just crazy. Like it's actually
377. 12:32insane.
378. 12:33Um so
379. 12:35it is very powerful. Um they're these
380. 12:37are great options, but
381. 12:40even with their sort of versatility,
382. 12:43like they just don't have the longevity
383. 12:45that I think Zhuge Liang has had and in
384. 12:48general I like to have three commanders
385. 12:51of each troop type in these upper
386. 12:53categories and everything else goes
387. 12:55niche cuz most people have like two
388. 12:57marches of each troop type. Um some
389. 13:00might have only one and so you never
390. 13:03want to invest in the commander that's
391. 13:05the fourth one in terms of power level
392. 13:08and those are the ones I try to
393. 13:10slot down in a niche. Okay, so we um
394. 13:13have the archers. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
395. 13:16>> also throw Ashurbanipal into the niche
396. 13:18role. For three archer march players, he
397. 13:20is still a viable choice as a niche
398. 13:22option for the third march if you don't
399. 13:24have Philip
400. 13:25or if you prefer just having a damage
401. 13:27dealer. Then I think he kind of fits the
402. 13:29same role that David does.
403. 13:31>> Okay.
404. 13:33Now, I changed my filter to infantry
405. 13:36because you know, there's a commander I
406. 13:37want to talk about for niche, and that
407. 13:39would now be William Wallace, right?
408. 13:41>> Yeah, for sure.
409. 13:43For sure niche.
410. 13:45>> Weirdly, when we tested
411. 13:48Sun Tzu Prime with William Wallace did
412. 13:50worse
413. 13:51and is not buffing as much as Versi.
414. 13:54So, like and that was true in the 1v1s
415. 13:57and the 5v5s. In fact,
416. 14:00we probably should even put Ivar on here
417. 14:03in niche.
418. 14:05>> Yeah, I think he also does belong in the
419. 14:06niche tier with David and Ashurbanipal.
420. 14:08I think it's quite like similar.
421. 14:10>> Yeah.
422. 14:12He was doing quite well, actually. Um
423. 14:15and in in cases better than the Wallace.
424. 14:17So,
425. 14:19Wallace is like really
426. 14:22really falls down quite a bit. In fact,
427. 14:24are you going to make a video about Ivar
428. 14:26for field? We planning to do that still?
429. 14:28>> Yes. I I am going to. I'm just gathering
430. 14:31some more information and I'm planning
431. 14:32to do some more testing on it before I
432. 14:34>> Yeah. People should check out your
433. 14:35channel for that. Okay. So,
434. 14:38the only other thing that I think we
435. 14:41are now missing
436. 14:43would be engineering.
437. 14:46And I don't think the engineering meta
438. 14:49has changed, has it?
439. 14:52>> I don't think so, no. I will say I'm not
440. 14:54an expert when it comes to this stuff,
441. 14:56so
442. 14:57>> Yeah.
443. 14:57>> I'm not like actually sure of
444. 14:59Elizabeth's viability, for example. Um
445. 15:02>> Yeah.
446. 15:04>> But
447. 15:06yeah, from what I know, it is still
448. 15:08Gonzalo with Guan Yu that is the like
449. 15:10siege meta for one march.
450. 15:12>> crazy.
451. 15:13That's insane.
452. 15:15These were the actual some of the best
453. 15:17investments in Rise of Kingdoms history.
454. 15:19>> I think they figure I think they
455. 15:21realized that they made those guys way
456. 15:22too strong considering how little
457. 15:24counter play there is to siege marches.
458. 15:27And then they're like, okay, tone it
459. 15:28down, tone it down for the for the
460. 15:31future ones. So, yeah.
461. 15:33>> Yeah.
462. 15:33I think these guys were unironically one
463. 15:37of the best investments in Rise of
464. 15:38Kingdoms history.
465. 15:40They're they're up there. Not as good as
466. 15:42like, I don't know,
467. 15:44the original Scipio Africanus, right?
468. 15:46Like not as good as I guess that was
469. 15:48Scipio Prime.
470. 15:50Um
471. 15:50>> Africanus.
472. 15:52>> I Yeah, I I I was thinking of SA
473. 15:54Africanus. I was getting confused for a
474. 15:56second.
475. 15:57Um and anyways,
476. 15:59uh okay, we have the siege. I think we
477. 16:03have everything on here.
478. 16:05I think this is actually where we land.
479. 16:08>> Do you want to talk about wedge two for
480. 16:11cavalry or infantry or is that kind of
481. 16:13like
482. 16:14>> Ooh, no, you're right. So, I suppose
483. 16:17we should find Huo.
484. 16:19And we should put him on here. And I
485. 16:21think that's niche tier.
486. 16:22>> Niche. Yeah.
487. 16:23>> If you have it
488. 16:25and you made wedge two for it,
489. 16:28it is very good. Uh
490. 16:30>> It is, yeah.
491. 16:31>> Yeah, like this team I keep battling
492. 16:33against. It's the final boss of Lost
493. 16:34Canyon in the toughest KVK in the game
494. 16:37right now.
495. 16:38Um
496. 16:40he's got this and it's just like
497. 16:42unbelievable how much damage this puts
498. 16:44out. Huo with Arthur and like it's got
499. 16:48to be all legendary inscription and
500. 16:50wedge two cuz it
501. 16:52is insane.
502. 16:54>> Yeah, even myself I still run the whole
503. 16:57Huo Arthur march in my last KVK and it
504. 17:00did really really well for me.
505. 17:02>> I would believe that. I would believe
506. 17:05that.
507. 17:06Um
508. 17:07I don't think there's any other
509. 17:09commanders that should be up for
510. 17:10consideration or inclusion here.
511. 17:13We're not putting CJ in here. We're not
512. 17:15putting Joan in here.
513. 17:17>> Yeah.
514. 17:19I think
515. 17:20skill damage infantry is kind of dead,
516. 17:22right?
517. 17:23>> Yeah, we're definitely not putting
518. 17:25Sargon into this list.
519. 17:26>> Skill damage infantry is dead.
520. 17:29I would be talking about Skipio Prime
521. 17:31and Ragnar, but
522. 17:32>> I guess you're right. So, like
523. 17:34we we
524. 17:36can talk [snorts] about them briefly.
525. 17:38I'll put them in niche. I think that's
526. 17:40that's fair.
527. 17:41Um [snorts] that Skipio Prime and Ragnar
528. 17:44Prime
529. 17:46are actually pretty good. And if you
530. 17:48actually went wedge two,
531. 17:50like you're kind of good for a little
532. 17:51bit,
533. 17:52but but just a little bit, and I
534. 17:55wouldn't recommend it.
535. 17:56>> Yeah, to be clear, like don't invest
536. 17:58into it now, but if you like for
537. 18:00whatever reason you were so hyped for
538. 18:02wedge two that you pulled the trigger on
539. 18:03infantry wedge two back then, like if
540. 18:05you have it, you should keep using it
541. 18:07until Pinzer two comes out, and then
542. 18:08maybe consider making the swap, right?
543. 18:10>> That's when you got to swap.
544. 18:11>> Yeah,
545. 18:12like if you have it, don't swap to
546. 18:13Pinzer one.
547. 18:15>> Yeah, I did this on my small account.
548. 18:17Ragnar with Skipio wedge
549. 18:20one was amazing.
550. 18:22Uh and it did great. It still continued
551. 18:24to do great, which shocked me. But now
552. 18:26that Pinzer two is on its way, dude,
553. 18:28>> Right.
554. 18:29>> I'm
555. 18:29>> Like obviously don't invest into it.
556. 18:31It's just like if you have it, use it.
557. 18:33Don't swap to Pinzer one at least, cuz
558. 18:35that's well,
559. 18:36Pinzer two is on the way.
560. 18:37Um
561. 18:38but it is like interesting, right? Like
562. 18:40I mean, right now, the three strongest
563. 18:43infantry marches might even be like on
564. 18:45paper. Obviously, the investment is like
565. 18:47terrible for this in terms of the
566. 18:49longevity of it, cuz you're going to
567. 18:50have to swap it when Pinzer two comes
568. 18:51out again.
569. 18:52But
570. 18:54running the like two meta infantry,
571. 18:55whatever you think that is, the two meta
572. 18:57smite, and then running a Skipio Ragnar
573. 18:59as your third infantry march, it sounds
574. 19:01kind of powerful with wedge two. If you
575. 19:03do have the inscriptions.
576. 19:05>> Yeah, if you if you actually had it,
577. 19:07I think it could do pretty decently.
578. 19:10With that said, the whole point of this
579. 19:12list is that your top priority is the
580. 19:15meta breaker. Your next priority is down
581. 19:18there in high priority and below that is
582. 19:20the low priority, which most people
583. 19:22should never even be looking to.
584. 19:26Only if you're way ahead of the curve do
585. 19:28you look to low priority. Like players
586. 19:30that have been playing the game for a
587. 19:31long time are looking there.
588. 19:33Um which is why I
589. 19:35have the sculptures to max first here. I
590. 19:37mean I've been playing for 7 and 1/2
591. 19:38years. So got a lot a lot of commanders
592. 19:40accumulated. Um
593. 19:42and these niche tier commanders like
594. 19:44you're really not looking to invest in
595. 19:46any of these.
596. 19:47So your best commanders for investment
597. 19:50and open field value
598. 19:52is QSH then Sun Tzu Prime. We will see
599. 19:56if these end up flipping by the way when
600. 19:59we get Pincer two. We'll see what that
601. 20:00does.
602. 20:02You don't think so?
603. 20:03>> [laughter]
604. 20:04>> No, I don't think so. I mean even when
605. 20:05Wedge one was and Wedge one was a lot
606. 20:07weaker than Pincer one, right?
607. 20:10QSH was still stronger than Sun Tzu.
608. 20:13Even with a special inscription that
609. 20:14didn't even work.
610. 20:15>> Mhm.
611. 20:17Then we've got Who would you say is the
612. 20:20best in high priority?
613. 20:22>> Ooh. Uh
614. 20:24ooh.
615. 20:25>> Highest potential.
616. 20:27>> Oh, maybe BQ.
617. 20:29>> You think BQ is the highest potential?
618. 20:31>> BQ is good, man.
619. 20:34Like he has so much damage. Like the
620. 20:35five target half circle and the malice
621. 20:37stacks. It's just so much damage.
622. 20:41>> Yeah, I would believe it.
623. 20:43>> BQ or Alp and then like Lucha right
624. 20:46after.
625. 20:47>> Wow, Cav. You just really like forget
626. 20:50the Cavs, huh?
627. 20:51>> Bro, I mean Cavs are in a tough spot.
628. 20:54Like even Cav players admitted now.
629. 20:56Usually they're a bit delusional.
630. 20:58>> [laughter]
631. 20:59>> And
632. 21:00just thinking that Cavs are always the
633. 21:02best. But I mean even Cav players right
634. 21:03now are like, "Yeah, Cavs suck." So I
635. 21:06think it's like fair to
636. 21:08fair to say calves are now are just the
637. 21:11weakest, right? They don't have any meta
638. 21:12breaker tier commander. They don't have
639. 21:14any commander of that power level of Q
640. 21:16stage and
641. 21:17and Sun Tzu. And I think even when you
642. 21:20look at the BQ's, the Alps, the Lu
643. 21:22Ch'eng, is there like yeah, they're
644. 21:23competing with their strongest
645. 21:25commanders, but I don't think they're
646. 21:26surpassing them.
647. 21:27>> I think if you put a couple hundred more
648. 21:29damage factor onto Achilles,
649. 21:32>> Mhm.
650. 21:33>> it would have really
651. 21:34been potential for meta breaker tier.
652. 21:36>> But it's like he has 2,000 damage
653. 21:38factor, right? And I think BQ's what?
654. 21:40Like 2,400, 2,500 plus mallet stacks.
655. 21:44So, it's like
656. 21:45he's just dealing a lot more damage.
657. 21:47>> Yeah.
658. 21:48I I think I think you're just off by a
659. 21:50couple hundred damage factor and he
660. 21:51could have potentially been up there at
661. 21:54meta breaker and it could have been
662. 21:55really nutty, but it isn't.
663. 21:58It just isn't.
664. 21:59Um okay.
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