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Lecture Tim Dyson,iss,The Hague,The Netherlands,23 April 2009 part 8.mov — Transcript

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  1. 0:00as an outstanding ecologic environment
  2. 0:01very different from the world average a
  3. 0:04very fertile soil and the supply of
  4. 0:06water no major of a geographical
  5. 0:09stickles normanton no dessert so the
  6. 0:12only problem of the Dutch was control
  7. 0:14the water flows which they did with his
  8. 0:16successor now you wouldn't be able to do
  9. 0:19that in the places where Tim Dyson was
  10. 0:22working in a middle of India know where
  11. 0:25I was working the silent part of Africa
  12. 0:27there is no water there so you don't
  13. 0:30have the same problems of Kusum and if
  14. 0:34you go to mountains if you go to read
  15. 0:36areas you will have a very different
  16. 0:38problem of course you expect very
  17. 0:40different population densities and
  18. 0:44now there is another argument about
  19. 0:46Holland is that the more problems you
  20. 0:48have to solve the more you if solutions
  21. 0:51will find but if you look at all the
  22. 0:54places in the world where you have a
  23. 0:55similar environment I mean the deltas of
  24. 0:58the big rivers you take the ganga palma
  25. 1:00put river in in bengal it take the Nile
  26. 1:03Delta in Egypt you take the Niger Delta
  27. 1:05in Nigeria this has never happened
  28. 1:08only here in all and people were able to
  29. 1:11have this incredible innovation in
  30. 1:15techniques that made possible the
  31. 1:18petition goes on a small piece of land
  32. 1:20so that the argument developed by
  33. 1:23establish a weapon on number for the
  34. 1:25people that the eye of population
  35. 1:28density it leads to innovation but i
  36. 1:30think has been wrong in most of the
  37. 1:32cases that over the last 50 years 5,000
  38. 1:35years this gives me so far very very
  39. 1:37long time we still are facing the
  40. 1:39limitation of
  41. 1:41that multi described the carrying
  42. 1:43capacity of the land and also the
  43. 1:45management of the economy what I'm doing
  44. 1:48in time here fine okay
  45. 1:51next question that I would like to raise
  46. 1:53today is what happens beyond food limits
  47. 1:56I mean multis was focusing always and
  48. 1:58food and all the societies that he had
  49. 2:01studied had major a problem with food
  50. 2:05whether it was in the e
  51. 2:07in the northern of Europe in the city
  52. 2:10area any studied everything he could a
  53. 2:13good fine in
  54. 2:15America's in OC Enya and everywhere
  55. 2:19but the natural between the relationship
  56. 2:22between population and environment has
  57. 2:24been changing very quickly in the recent
  58. 2:26past as a result of the population
  59. 2:28explosion so there are new limits
  60. 2:31appearing now for plans for land animals
  61. 2:33and for fishes luckily so far we have
  62. 2:36been able to find new solutions
  63. 2:38increasing League for plans raising
  64. 2:41animals in factories and developing fish
  65. 2:43farms but the lipid limits have been
  66. 2:45pushed forward but the still exists them
  67. 2:48now what water is becoming a major issue
  68. 2:51in about half of the world not here that
  69. 2:53for sure but if you go to Africa are in
  70. 2:56most places to South Asia and many
  71. 2:58places even I mean Latin America and
  72. 3:01some places
  73. 3:02water is becoming a major issue are for
  74. 3:05the the population not only because of
  75. 3:08the population explosion of course but
  76. 3:10also because of the increasing demand
  77. 3:11for agriculture on in some cases for the
  78. 3:15industry the demand for energy is also
  79. 3:18increasing the Matta Kelly the fossil
  80. 3:20fuels are limited and other sources of
  81. 3:23energy are either very expensive or are
  82. 3:26in competition with agriculture and the
  83. 3:28land space is limited and is becoming
  84. 3:31again a source of conflicts the century
  85. 3:34ago in Africa land was still available
  86. 3:36and if you didn't have a land here you
  87. 3:39move 50 kilometers away and you will
  88. 3:41find freelander and it was free from
  89. 3:43migrants and settlers this is no longer
  90. 3:45the case it's finished in any part of
  91. 3:47the world with a very very few
  92. 3:49exceptions some
  93. 3:51next slide please
  94. 3:53so here we are reaching the core of the
  95. 3:56new relationship between population and
  96. 3:58development on population and
  97. 4:00environment we are reaching a stage
  98. 4:01where any large change affects the
  99. 4:04global ecological equilibrium and this
  100. 4:07global dimension is new at the time when
  101. 4:10what is what is booked all the
  102. 4:12limitations were local they were not
  103. 4:14global them
  104. 4:15are listed here a few of the major
  105. 4:17issues and this game again in
  106. 4:20presentation the greenhouse effect
  107. 4:22induced by human activity which is the
  108. 4:24main source of global warming and which
  109. 4:26has so many consequences for the
  110. 4:28environment the land degradation and
  111. 4:30pollution as a consequence of over
  112. 4:32utilization and destroy all cultures the
  113. 4:36negative in else impact for humans as
  114. 4:39well as for animals of fertilizers and
  115. 4:41pesticides
  116. 4:42necessary to meet the demand for food as
  117. 4:44well as a toxic waste is produced by the
  118. 4:48industry i will also to mention the
  119. 4:51price of land which has been increasing
  120. 4:53very quickly and is likely to increase
  121. 4:55even more in the future in some places
  122. 4:58the price of land for housing is so high
  123. 5:01that no one could afford to buy a piece
  124. 5:02of land with an average income you
  125. 5:04needed excellent so many high income in
  126. 5:06order to to be able to acquire a piece
  127. 5:09of land which was not the case a century
  128. 5:12ago
  129. 5:13agricultural land is also becoming an
  130. 5:15issue for many of our populated
  131. 5:17countries such as China Japan Korea or
  132. 5:20Saudi Arabia and those countries are now
  133. 5:23buying or renting land in other
  134. 5:25countries which raised numerous
  135. 5:27political issues as exemplified by the
  136. 5:30resin coup d'etat in Madagascar so they
  137. 5:33are now major trade offs that we have to
  138. 5:36face and which necessitate difficult
  139. 5:38choices and trade off between arborlon
  140. 5:41and when forest between them for food
  141. 5:44and land for energy production food
  142. 5:47co-ops versus animal forming increasing
  143. 5:49production versus safe environment and
  144. 5:51space for wildlife vs. space for humans
  145. 5:54now I go often to South Africa annum
  146. 5:58wave much fascinated by the space that's
  147. 6:01still available for wildlife in this
  148. 6:03part of the world and this is possible
  149. 6:05only because of the relatively low
  150. 6:07population density yeah now this has
  151. 6:10almost disappeared in Europe if one
  152. 6:12wants to introduce a family of bears or
  153. 6:14wolves in France this become a national
  154. 6:16issue and almost impossible technically
  155. 6:19so totally different sides of the pot
  156. 6:21lemon
  157. 6:23new and very important issues have
  158. 6:26emerged in recent years any chance as an
  159. 6:28effect on global ecological equilibrium
  160. 6:30and Frances increase land implies the
  161. 6:34destruction of the rainforest which
  162. 6:35implies increasing emission of carbon
  163. 6:37dioxide which implies global warming and
  164. 6:40as many adverse consequences so if one
  165. 6:43considers all the basic constraints on
  166. 6:45human life mentioned above do we have
  167. 6:47any solution compatible with increasing
  168. 6:50population increasing income increasing
  169. 6:52demand for goods and energy as defined
  170. 6:55by the North American Way of life I
  171. 6:57thought we have and this was said
  172. 6:59already in the
  173. 7:02Club of Rome report some 45 years ago
  174. 7:06it's an interesting report a colleague
  175. 7:09of mine went back to this report and try
  176. 7:12to
  177. 7:12compare what did happen in last 40 years
  178. 7:15since the report was done with what they
  179. 7:17wrote in 1972 most of what the road was
  180. 7:20right and I know where we are we are
  181. 7:23just seeing the beginning of the
  182. 7:25problems and that they have described
  183. 7:27next slide
  184. 7:33next next question but its upper portion
  185. 7:37control well I think there have been
  186. 7:39major changes in the relationship
  187. 7:41between developed and developing
  188. 7:42countries in the 1950s when the
  189. 7:46population Dippet started it was
  190. 7:48centered around the wheel of the North
  191. 7:50namely the USA and its allies to control
  192. 7:53the position of the south and it was
  193. 7:55mainly at that time Latin America Asia
  194. 7:56and Africa and this happened
  195. 7:59unfortunately in the context of
  196. 8:01imperialism the colonization communism
  197. 8:04Cold War and was therefore highly
  198. 8:06politicized this is most unfortunate
  199. 8:08since they are mostly common interests
  200. 8:10that we see now I'm not any longer an
  201. 8:13image of conflicting interest attitudes
  202. 8:16and behavior too low to what's low
  203. 8:19fertility tended to converge in the
  204. 8:21recent years the world has become a
  205. 8:23global village with common economic and
  206. 8:25ecological constraints and the new
  207. 8:27courage ecological issues and the
  208. 8:29consequences are also becoming global in
  209. 8:32particular global warming
  210. 8:34so far I going back again to the
  211. 8:37transition we have been lucky to have
  212. 8:39dedicated people in the USA around
  213. 8:42nineteen fifty started to address the
  214. 8:44issue of operation control without
  215. 8:46without them will be in a much worse
  216. 8:49situation and will not have
  217. 8:53the stabilizing position by
  218. 8:562050 that the United Nations

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