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  1. 0:00thank you
  2. 1:07foreign
  3. 1:32welcome thank you for joining us today
  4. 1:35uh my name is Dave Donaldson from MIT
  5. 1:37and along with David Atkin from MIT
  6. 1:40we've um been asked to put together on
  7. 1:44behalf of igc and Brad a sequence of PhD
  8. 1:47level lectures on the topic of firms and
  9. 1:50development and uh we're delighted you
  10. 1:52could join us here today I just want to
  11. 1:55advertise before we go any further that
  12. 1:56we um you know this is lecture number
  13. 1:59seven of eight and uh we have uh uh
  14. 2:02recordings slides reading lists for this
  15. 2:06lecture as well as all previous lectures
  16. 2:07and then the subsequent lecture taking
  17. 2:09place tomorrow all on the igc the
  18. 2:13website and there's a link to that in
  19. 2:15the chat below so today our lecture is
  20. 2:19uh going to be given by Lauren Bergquist
  21. 2:21from Yale uh Lauren needs no
  22. 2:24introduction she's written seminal
  23. 2:25papers on on the topic of today's
  24. 2:27lecture which is going to be sort of
  25. 2:29broadly markets and competition uh this
  26. 2:33um we think this relates to the lectures
  27. 2:36you've hopefully already seen but can
  28. 2:38again see on the website if you've
  29. 2:39missed any uh you know that sort of
  30. 2:41paint various pictures of um of
  31. 2:44misallocation of economic activity in
  32. 2:47developing countries uh in particular
  33. 2:50across productive activities and hence
  34. 2:52firms and how that could be a source of
  35. 2:55underdevelopment and today the theme is
  36. 2:57sort of uh you know uh competition and
  37. 3:00and lack thereof as a as one possible
  38. 3:03source of such misallocation
  39. 3:06um so uh we'll we'll start very shortly
  40. 3:09I just want to point out that um
  41. 3:10panelists uh welcome to um raise your
  42. 3:14hand and ask questions Lauren and ask
  43. 3:16those out loud when called upon Lauren
  44. 3:18will also pause try to do her best to
  45. 3:20pause occasionally to invite such
  46. 3:21questions and uh non-panelists that is
  47. 3:24everybody else uh feel free to just
  48. 3:26write your questions in the Q a box and
  49. 3:28um we'll uh do our best to try to find
  50. 3:32moments where we can intervene and ask
  51. 3:34those questions out loud to Lauren
  52. 3:36um anyway Lauren that's all I had to say
  53. 3:38please take it away and thank you so
  54. 3:40much for joining us Lauren great thanks
  55. 3:42so much for having me and thanks for
  56. 3:43that kind introduction Dave um it's
  57. 3:45really a pleasure to be a part of this
  58. 3:46course it looks like it's been a really
  59. 3:48fantastic one so far so thanks for
  60. 3:50thanks for including this
  61. 3:52um so let me give you sort of a high
  62. 3:54level agenda of where we'll be headed
  63. 3:56today
  64. 3:57um so we'll start by talking about uh
  65. 3:59just sort of understanding the landscape
  66. 4:01so you've heard a lot I think both in
  67. 4:02Dave and David's lectures about sort of
  68. 4:05um uh the overall uh landscape of
  69. 4:09um you know what firms involving
  70. 4:11countries looks like and you've heard
  71. 4:12sort of in your in your courses since
  72. 4:13then so I want to talk just overall
  73. 4:15about kind of the factors that might
  74. 4:17hinder and might support competition in
  75. 4:19low and middle income countries
  76. 4:22then we'll move kind of from you know
  77. 4:23the theoretical factors to the
  78. 4:25measurement side so how do we actually
  79. 4:26measure competition
  80. 4:28um I'll talk about some of the
  81. 4:29traditional approaches sort of in in the
  82. 4:32non-development literature and how that
  83. 4:34might be potentially
  84. 4:36um uh there might be potential
  85. 4:37challenges but also opportunities in
  86. 4:39applying that to the low and middle
  87. 4:40income country context uh and then we'll
  88. 4:43get into our experimental approaches
  89. 4:44including some work of my own with
  90. 4:46Michael dinnerstein uh in Kenya
  91. 4:49the third section will focus on
  92. 4:50implications of competition on a variety
  93. 4:53of outcomes including firm selection
  94. 4:54meaning sort of entry and exit by firms
  95. 4:58um prices quality and Contracting I'll
  96. 5:01spend the most time here in this Jensen
  97. 5:02and Miller piece uh and we'll if we have
  98. 5:04time we'll go over sort of briefly this
  99. 5:05other pieces I know that Rocco I think
  100. 5:07covered a portion of this this last
  101. 5:09piece on Contracting in the most recent
  102. 5:11lecture
  103. 5:12and then of course I'll conclude by
  104. 5:13talking about sort of opportunities for
  105. 5:15future research uh in this space
  106. 5:18so I want to start by kind of again
  107. 5:19understanding sort of the light of the
  108. 5:21land and talk about factors that might
  109. 5:23either limit or support competition uh
  110. 5:26in low and middle income countries let
  111. 5:28me start with a question to the
  112. 5:30panelists um and you're welcome in the Q
  113. 5:32a to also add responses if you'd like
  114. 5:34you know thinking back to again that
  115. 5:36kind of lecture one description of what
  116. 5:38it looks like for the market environment
  117. 5:40for firms uh in low and middle income
  118. 5:42countries what are some of the factors
  119. 5:44that you think might uh potentially
  120. 5:46hinder limit competition uh in this
  121. 5:48environment
  122. 5:58should we just unmute ourselves and talk
  123. 6:00I actually I actually can't see everyone
  124. 6:01at once so please do feel free to just
  125. 6:03uh just jump in if you can okay so sorry
  126. 6:06if someone raised their hands uh anyways
  127. 6:09I don't know I would think that maybe
  128. 6:10these markets are kind of characterized
  129. 6:12by a few very large firms potentially
  130. 6:16kind of state-owned Enterprises
  131. 6:19this kind of thing crowding out let's
  132. 6:21say smaller firms
  133. 6:25yeah so you could see there being very
  134. 6:26very few firms and then there's a second
  135. 6:28question of why are there very few firms
  136. 6:30right so maybe they're sort of
  137. 6:31regulatory barriers by the states in
  138. 6:33terms of which firms can enter
  139. 6:34um that might crowd out uh other
  140. 6:36potential entrants and fewer firms might
  141. 6:38need less competition absolutely
  142. 6:40how about some other other reasons
  143. 6:42access to capital for startups
  144. 6:45yeah access to Capital right so there's
  145. 6:47potential entrance you might want to
  146. 6:48enter into the into the industry but
  147. 6:51can't because of all the kind of typical
  148. 6:52you know credit constraints that we
  149. 6:54think about in developing countries I
  150. 6:55might limit the number of entrants into
  151. 6:56a market and thereby limit competition
  152. 6:58great
  153. 7:00yeah perhaps on the other end of the
  154. 7:02spectrum of what Peter was saying uh
  155. 7:04small firms but that are kind of parsing
  156. 7:07up the market into very specialized uh
  157. 7:10Goods maybe we at first look at them as
  158. 7:12they're all fruit vendors but they're
  159. 7:14all kind of specializing and I've got
  160. 7:15the tomatoes cornered and you've got the
  161. 7:18apples and
  162. 7:19stuff like that totally yeah Define the
  163. 7:21Market's going to be a really critical
  164. 7:22component of this so it might look like
  165. 7:25a big Market but when you think about
  166. 7:26the actual relevant markets
  167. 7:28um either by product or by geography it
  168. 7:31might actually be much smaller there
  169. 7:32might be much less competition in that
  170. 7:35area
  171. 7:36any other ideas
  172. 7:39information available to to customers on
  173. 7:42finding Alternatives yep absolutely so
  174. 7:45search costs information frictions can
  175. 7:46limit again sort of the size of the
  176. 7:48market right so you might know about
  177. 7:49your local supplier but you might not
  178. 7:51know about others and that will come up
  179. 7:52a lot in this Jensen and Miller piece so
  180. 7:54these are some great explanations let me
  181. 7:56kind of go through my own list which I
  182. 7:57think covers a lot of what you all
  183. 7:58discussed and is by no means it's
  184. 8:00comprehensive but you know the first is
  185. 8:02this idea of sort of a smaller Market
  186. 8:04size right so this has to do with the
  187. 8:06variable profits that are available to
  188. 8:07support firms right so you know if
  189. 8:09you're in an environment with a small
  190. 8:11Market size it's harder to support a
  191. 8:13large number of firms in the presence of
  192. 8:15their being fixed cost and here you know
  193. 8:17I think you already got it some of these
  194. 8:18smaller Market size can mean a couple
  195. 8:20things right of course it's going to
  196. 8:21mean just population and number of
  197. 8:23consumers it also can mean you know the
  198. 8:25ability of consumers to purchase so so
  199. 8:27you know poorer consumers
  200. 8:30um and it can mean to sort of the the
  201. 8:31segmented kind of markets again dude we
  202. 8:33talked about kind of information
  203. 8:34frictions also physical trade costs in
  204. 8:37the line right so this all sort of means
  205. 8:39again lower lower variable profits which
  206. 8:41means fewer firms can be supported in
  207. 8:43the presence of fixed cost which can
  208. 8:45mean lower competition
  209. 8:46there also could be greater barriers to
  210. 8:48entry so you mentioned some of these as
  211. 8:49well
  212. 8:50um you know the first of course is kind
  213. 8:52of legal or regulatory barriers to entry
  214. 8:54right so maybe maybe you know the state
  215. 8:56has regulation over who can open a
  216. 8:58business in certain industries
  217. 9:00um you know the World Bank has a great
  218. 9:02sort of doing business indicators where
  219. 9:03you can look and see buy country the
  220. 9:05particular barriers to entry
  221. 9:07there also could be sort of you know
  222. 9:09outside of the legal realm there could
  223. 9:11be essentially illicit
  224. 9:12um barriers to entry so think about
  225. 9:14corruption and bribe so you know maybe
  226. 9:15it's not just that you have to fill out
  227. 9:17a very extensive paperwork uh to become
  228. 9:20registered but you also have to on top
  229. 9:22of that pay a bribe to the official
  230. 9:24right you could think of that like
  231. 9:26um a sort of second barrier to entering
  232. 9:28I will say there's a little bit of sort
  233. 9:30of
  234. 9:31um uh I think sort of open question as
  235. 9:32to whether competition is an additional
  236. 9:35barrier to entry on top of the red tape
  237. 9:37or whether it actually is acting a
  238. 9:39little bit like a substitute to actually
  239. 9:41say well if you can pay a bribe instead
  240. 9:43of filling out the paperwork that might
  241. 9:44actually lower kind of the the barriers
  242. 9:47in practice
  243. 9:48so some debate there
  244. 9:50um but then of course you know I think
  245. 9:51this was uh mentioned in the in the
  246. 9:53answers here which I think is a really
  247. 9:54big one it's just these kind of de facto
  248. 9:56barriers to entry so credit constraints
  249. 9:58right there might be entrepreneurs who
  250. 9:59have a great idea could open a very
  251. 10:01profitable business to compete with
  252. 10:03incumbents but don't have access to
  253. 10:05working capital okay so those who are
  254. 10:06able to enter Then are the folks who
  255. 10:08already have access
  256. 10:10um maybe those who are wealthier to
  257. 10:12begin with and that's a smaller pool so
  258. 10:13yeah if you were if you were entrants
  259. 10:17okay so these are sort of the factors
  260. 10:18that determine you know the number of
  261. 10:20firms
  262. 10:21um smaller variable profits higher
  263. 10:23barriers to entry there's also a matter
  264. 10:25of how those firms interact right so I
  265. 10:27think you talked last week about
  266. 10:29um about contract and relational
  267. 10:30Contracting you know in the presence of
  268. 10:34other market failures that we think are
  269. 10:35sort of specific to or are common in uh
  270. 10:38low and middle income countries like for
  271. 10:40example lack of kind of formal contract
  272. 10:43enforcement
  273. 10:44relational Contracting as Rocco talked
  274. 10:46about can be sort of a substitute for
  275. 10:48formal contract enforcement but through
  276. 10:51the flip side of that as it means you're
  277. 10:52in sort of a captive relationship right
  278. 10:54between a firm and its consumers or in
  279. 10:56the case of monopsony power but you know
  280. 10:57firm and and producers
  281. 11:00um and that can limit competition your
  282. 11:01ability to kind of go outside that
  283. 11:03relationship to find kind of competing
  284. 11:05offers okay so these things can be
  285. 11:07deeply sort of um uh entwined okay so
  286. 11:10these are all factors that might make
  287. 11:11you think the degree of competition
  288. 11:12among firms could be quite limited
  289. 11:15um in the loan little income country
  290. 11:16context on the flip side there's reasons
  291. 11:19to think competition could be quite High
  292. 11:21um so what are some of the features of
  293. 11:23that environment that you think might
  294. 11:24support a competition or make you think
  295. 11:26actually competition could be quite high
  296. 11:28in this environment
  297. 11:37the presence of many many small firms
  298. 11:41so there's many many small firms and so
  299. 11:42so you know why would that be
  300. 11:48lack of differentiation and return to
  301. 11:51scale convexities yeah so there could be
  302. 11:54just kind of structural things to do
  303. 11:56with the industry sort of specialization
  304. 11:58that you see common in the moment in
  305. 11:59country so as you said there could be
  306. 12:01industries that sort of don't exhibit
  307. 12:03those scale economies
  308. 12:05um uh or they're kind of limited product
  309. 12:06differentiation and in which case you
  310. 12:08know you're sort of all competing over
  311. 12:10Barry homogeneous Goods absolutely
  312. 12:13okay
  313. 12:14other thoughts to closest subsistence I
  314. 12:17guess the outside option is pretty low
  315. 12:19so you're willing to go quite low in
  316. 12:21your price as is everybody else
  317. 12:24yeah so maybe sort of desperation and
  318. 12:25subsistence kind of leads to kind of
  319. 12:27Greater competition so it could be
  320. 12:28harder to maintain collusion for example
  321. 12:30if you're really desperate for that
  322. 12:32additional dollar as the business owner
  323. 12:34right
  324. 12:36other thoughts
  325. 12:47okay let me use some of my um list here
  326. 12:49again which somebody's recovered so yeah
  327. 12:51so specialization in industries that
  328. 12:52maybe don't feature strong economies of
  329. 12:54scales I think about sort of you know
  330. 12:56cottage industries
  331. 12:57um agriculture is potentially a big one
  332. 12:59so you know the most common firm in
  333. 13:01developing countries is a farm
  334. 13:03um I will say there's a debate here as
  335. 13:05to whether there are scale economies and
  336. 13:06agriculture uh the most recent paper in
  337. 13:08here that's pretty fantastic is by by
  338. 13:10Andrew Foster and Mark rosensweg
  339. 13:12um but you may imagine these are in
  340. 13:14general you know Industries where there
  341. 13:16aren't strong economies of scale okay
  342. 13:17and just to play that out what that
  343. 13:18means is you're not going to have kind
  344. 13:19of these natural monopolies that might
  345. 13:21emerge in an environment that you might
  346. 13:24have with you know with strong economies
  347. 13:25of scale
  348. 13:26some of this was mentioned you know
  349. 13:28maybe lower degree of product
  350. 13:29differentiation okay and that can come
  351. 13:30both kind of on the supply side so
  352. 13:32specializing in Commodities are very
  353. 13:34homogeneous goods and which we might
  354. 13:35naturally think competition is quite
  355. 13:37High
  356. 13:38um as well as in the demands I've read
  357. 13:39so poor household that might be less
  358. 13:41willing to pay for quality and so you
  359. 13:42just have left less differentiation
  360. 13:44based on quality measures
  361. 13:47um we discussed you know barriers to
  362. 13:49entry uh and the fact that they might
  363. 13:51legally be higher in some developing
  364. 13:53countries but of course there also might
  365. 13:54be less enforcement of those barriers so
  366. 13:57um you know I think it's quite clear
  367. 13:58when you look at say the large and
  368. 14:00formal sector right that maybe there's
  369. 14:01greater red tape to opening a business
  370. 14:03but you don't necessarily need to
  371. 14:05register your business to operate
  372. 14:07um and so you can have an environment of
  373. 14:09many small uh informal firms that are
  374. 14:12increasing the competition in the in the
  375. 14:14market
  376. 14:15there's also depending on the sector you
  377. 14:17know sort of relevancy here about
  378. 14:18thinking about limited sort of Ip
  379. 14:20protection right that might otherwise
  380. 14:22prevent sort of CopyCat or generic uh
  381. 14:24production
  382. 14:25and then finally this is sort of a
  383. 14:27nuanced point but I think is maybe a
  384. 14:28fruitful area for future researches you
  385. 14:31know these de facto barriers like credit
  386. 14:32constraints that we talked about being a
  387. 14:34barrier to entry they're also a barrier
  388. 14:36to firm growth right and so it's
  389. 14:39possible if they're constraining growth
  390. 14:40more than entry they might actually
  391. 14:42serve to maintain a market of many small
  392. 14:44firms right so
  393. 14:46um you know and I think the micro credit
  394. 14:48literature is sort of supportive of this
  395. 14:49point in that it seems like when you
  396. 14:51alleviate you know these these barriers
  397. 14:53these credit constraint frictions it
  398. 14:55doesn't do a whole lot to help people
  399. 14:56open new business it really seems to be
  400. 14:58most effective at kind of the right tale
  401. 15:00of very profit already profitable
  402. 15:01businesses so you might find if you were
  403. 15:03able to alleviate this credit constraint
  404. 15:05that we think sort of proliferates in
  405. 15:07low and middle income countries you
  406. 15:09wouldn't see a ton of Entry but you
  407. 15:10actually might see the existing firms
  408. 15:12the very profitable ones grow quite
  409. 15:13large that might actually limit the
  410. 15:15degree of competition could still be
  411. 15:17very positive for productivity on the
  412. 15:18whole okay I'm not saying it's not a
  413. 15:20good thing but thinking about its
  414. 15:21interactional competition I think is
  415. 15:23fairly nuanced and it really depends on
  416. 15:25sort of way wear along the distribution
  417. 15:27of latent productivity that constraint
  418. 15:29is most binding so I think this is an
  419. 15:30area of potential future research
  420. 15:34um
  421. 15:35questions on that before we go into kind
  422. 15:36of measurements
  423. 15:41okay so let's turn to measurement I want
  424. 15:44to talk first about kind of some of the
  425. 15:45standard approaches to measuring
  426. 15:48competition and measuring markups and I
  427. 15:50want to talk and highlight about how
  428. 15:51they these approaches can be potentially
  429. 15:54you know particularly challenging or
  430. 15:56particularly particularly fruitful in
  431. 15:59this development context
  432. 16:01so we'll go from kind of easiest to to
  433. 16:04most complex so the first thing you
  434. 16:05could do if you want to sort of measure
  435. 16:07our firms competing colluding is you
  436. 16:09could ask them
  437. 16:11um that might sound crazy but actually
  438. 16:13prior to sort of the Anti-Trust
  439. 16:15legislation in the U.S you know U.S
  440. 16:17firms used to fairly openly discuss for
  441. 16:20example price setting and price
  442. 16:21agreements and there's sort of this long
  443. 16:23history of the i o literature that
  444. 16:24actually uses minutes from board
  445. 16:26meetings to identify periods of
  446. 16:29collusion and periods where collusion
  447. 16:30broke down to study sort of pricing
  448. 16:32decisions under these two regimes so if
  449. 16:34you can imagine you know in the
  450. 16:36development context we run surveys we
  451. 16:37talked to firms quite a bit you could
  452. 16:40just ask are you competing are you
  453. 16:42colluding to set prices how are you
  454. 16:43setting prices
  455. 16:44so when you think about this approach
  456. 16:47in the context of you know working doing
  457. 16:50this in developing countries what do you
  458. 16:51see as sort of the the pros and cons
  459. 16:53overall and then in particular with with
  460. 16:55development
  461. 17:07everyone thinks it's a fabulous idea we
  462. 17:09should just stop here
  463. 17:13what are the pros and cons
  464. 17:24all right I guess I'll try to answer
  465. 17:28um but yeah so so the cons obviously of
  466. 17:31asking firms are you colluding
  467. 17:33I mean I don't know much about this I've
  468. 17:35never run a survey but I just I don't
  469. 17:37think they would be very honest but
  470. 17:40I don't know that seems pretty obvious
  471. 17:42to me
  472. 17:43um kind of more difficult to think of
  473. 17:44Pros but
  474. 17:47yeah so you know I think the the pro or
  475. 17:50the relative Pro I will say is that you
  476. 17:52know in many uh low and middle income
  477. 17:54countries that are sort of weaker there
  478. 17:56can be a weaker antitrust regulation or
  479. 17:58at least enforcement and so you might
  480. 17:59find firms at least more willing to
  481. 18:00openly discuss but of course as you say
  482. 18:03you know there's still going to be these
  483. 18:04strong social norms um against uh
  484. 18:06against collusion and that's going to
  485. 18:08clearly Drive self-reporting bias
  486. 18:10um this is actually a quote from the
  487. 18:12paper that that um that I'll describe in
  488. 18:14just a moment that I that I worked on
  489. 18:15with Michael dinnerstein and you know we
  490. 18:17directly ask trainers actually so this
  491. 18:19is working with agricultural traders in
  492. 18:21Kenya I'll tell you much more about the
  493. 18:22context in a moment we directly asked
  494. 18:25you know do you have a price agreement
  495. 18:26with other traders in this market and we
  496. 18:29found is that you know only 30 reports
  497. 18:31uh engaging in explicit price agreement
  498. 18:33but
  499. 18:35um 72 percent of Traders work in a
  500. 18:37market where at least someone else told
  501. 18:39us in that market that there was a price
  502. 18:40agreement and typically they say it's
  503. 18:41with everyone else in the market so you
  504. 18:44know I like this because it highlights I
  505. 18:45think two things the first is that you
  506. 18:46actually can learn quite a bit a lot
  507. 18:48about the environment through talking to
  508. 18:50firms okay so um I just want to
  509. 18:53emphasize there's a lot of qualitative
  510. 18:54work that goes on behind the scenes
  511. 18:56Behind these papers that doesn't show up
  512. 18:57necessarily in the paper and I would
  513. 18:59really encourage you if you're doing a
  514. 19:01specially sort of field work and
  515. 19:02development to talk to firms and ask
  516. 19:04them if of course it feels both safe and
  517. 19:06appropriate given the context but this
  518. 19:09also of course highlights the issue you
  519. 19:10mentioned that of course there's going
  520. 19:11to be very strong reporting bias and I
  521. 19:13don't think any anyone would believe
  522. 19:15this to be kind of a credible way of
  523. 19:16measuring competition but I do want to
  524. 19:18encourage you all to do kind of the
  525. 19:19qualitative work again with the caveat
  526. 19:21of being both safe and appropriate for
  527. 19:23the context but to actually talk to
  528. 19:25firms um and learn what they say about
  529. 19:26sort of how they're interacting with
  530. 19:28each other
  531. 19:29okay but you know with the with
  532. 19:31understanding this is not going to be a
  533. 19:32convincing method
  534. 19:34um what are some more quantitative or
  535. 19:35more convincing methods of measuring
  536. 19:37competition
  537. 19:38so the next sort of most straightforward
  538. 19:40thing you could do is you could use
  539. 19:41accounting data to estimate markups
  540. 19:43right so you know in theory prices are
  541. 19:45typically observable you can get
  542. 19:47accounting data to estimate marginal
  543. 19:49cost and then you can look at the
  544. 19:50difference and estimate markups
  545. 19:52so what do you think of the pros and
  546. 19:54cons of this approach
  547. 19:58um it's going to be hard to get good
  548. 19:59data
  549. 20:00yeah
  550. 20:05yeah so that's a big one so I would say
  551. 20:07you know in general even even putting
  552. 20:09aside kind of the low and Mill income
  553. 20:11country context you know this is
  554. 20:13generally not a super popular approach
  555. 20:16um uh uh because you know it's hard to
  556. 20:19estimate first of all
  557. 20:21um uh the value of capital in particular
  558. 20:23so many inputs but in particular capital
  559. 20:25is very hard to Value
  560. 20:27um it's hard for multi-product firms
  561. 20:29which a lot of firms are to assign costs
  562. 20:31across products
  563. 20:33um and then you mentioned I think this
  564. 20:34is this is certainly true this approach
  565. 20:36is probably even harder in the
  566. 20:38development context right so you know
  567. 20:39many firms don't keep records in fact we
  568. 20:41you know there's this whole literature
  569. 20:42and how do we convince firms to keep
  570. 20:44records
  571. 20:45um and so I think you know for for the
  572. 20:48development context it's not just the
  573. 20:50value of capital it's even the value of
  574. 20:51you know materials and labor that can
  575. 20:53also be can also be hard to measure
  576. 20:56the other sort of limitation here is you
  577. 20:58know imagine there's perfect measurement
  578. 21:00you might find large markups and that
  579. 21:01might be suggested in perfect
  580. 21:03competition but without knowing more
  581. 21:05about the future of the market in
  582. 21:06particular without knowing more about
  583. 21:07demand um you can't run counter factuals
  584. 21:09so you can know what markups are
  585. 21:11currently but it's difficult to know you
  586. 21:12know what would happen to markups if you
  587. 21:14had say greater entry or greater
  588. 21:15competition
  589. 21:17um so this is you know I think this is
  590. 21:18more appropriate as a sort of outcome
  591. 21:20measure if you already have an
  592. 21:22experimental variation or you've got
  593. 21:24sort of a quasi-experiment through a
  594. 21:25policy shock to use it as a measurements
  595. 21:27of an outcome of markups with all the
  596. 21:30caveats that I mentioned on measurement
  597. 21:31but it's not great for example for
  598. 21:33running counter factuals like the kind
  599. 21:35that will run for example in the piece
  600. 21:37that I'll discuss in just a bit
  601. 21:40um okay so in recognition of some of
  602. 21:42these measurement challenges
  603. 21:44um an approach that sort of uh grown in
  604. 21:47um an attraction is this idea of cost
  605. 21:49minimization or basically kind of a
  606. 21:51production function approach and the
  607. 21:53basic idea here is that if firms are
  608. 21:55minimizing cost
  609. 21:57then for any one given flexible input J
  610. 22:01markups are going to be equal to the
  611. 22:03output elasticity with respect to that
  612. 22:05input okay so what I mean here is you
  613. 22:07know imagine that input is labor right
  614. 22:09so as you change labor how does your
  615. 22:10quantity of output change
  616. 22:12over the input expenditures as a share
  617. 22:15of Revenue right so imagine this is your
  618. 22:17wage bill here over your total revenues
  619. 22:20so what are the kind of pros and cons of
  620. 22:22this approach relative especially to
  621. 22:23kind of the previous accounting measures
  622. 22:44as a comment in the Q a saying you have
  623. 22:46to estimate a production function by
  624. 22:48Nathan Gardner had history
  625. 22:50yeah so you have to that that can be
  626. 22:52potentially a con right so you have to
  627. 22:54actually measure this output elasticity
  628. 22:55which can be challenging absolutely
  629. 22:58any pros
  630. 23:08so you know the pro here in general is
  631. 23:11that you really only need decent records
  632. 23:12for one variable input right so in
  633. 23:14particular the issue about valuing
  634. 23:16Capital which will be very challenging
  635. 23:18you know we can basically set aside
  636. 23:20Capital here and say okay instead we're
  637. 23:21just going to focus on a different
  638. 23:22variable input labor is a very common
  639. 23:24one right and the idea here is it might
  640. 23:26be easier you know this denominator here
  641. 23:28is really kind of the win for this
  642. 23:30approach right so it might be easier to
  643. 23:32estimate the wage bill just this this
  644. 23:34part here rather than kind of the total
  645. 23:36cost and valuing capital okay so that
  646. 23:39might potentially be easier now the
  647. 23:41downside of course and I should say
  648. 23:42actually just you know uh quickly on
  649. 23:45that point I think that's especially
  650. 23:46true in wealthier countries with good
  651. 23:49um accounting data at least on on wage
  652. 23:52bills um that might still even be a
  653. 23:54challenge right think about smes in low
  654. 23:56and middle income countries right they
  655. 23:58have no employees or just a small number
  656. 24:00of employees own labor is going to be a
  657. 24:03really big part of that that wage bill
  658. 24:04and we know sort of it's notoriously
  659. 24:06difficult to Value uh own labor so this
  660. 24:08is not going to be quite the win that it
  661. 24:10might be if the only issue is valuing uh
  662. 24:12valuing capital
  663. 24:14um okay but that's the overall sort of
  664. 24:16benefit is the approaches you don't have
  665. 24:17to properly measure every input you can
  666. 24:19just sort of measure the input
  667. 24:20expenditure for for one
  668. 24:22um the downside is this point here about
  669. 24:24the output elasticity right so there's
  670. 24:26lots of identification challenges here
  671. 24:28so I think you uh heard a lecture by
  672. 24:29Eric bear hugin earlier in this in this
  673. 24:32series you know he notes he's got papers
  674. 24:34noting that basically if you don't
  675. 24:35account for Quality differences you
  676. 24:37might get biased estimates here so you
  677. 24:39know imagine that there's a firm that's
  678. 24:41using lots of inputs
  679. 24:43um and they're not actually producing a
  680. 24:44larger quantity of outputs but they're
  681. 24:46higher quality outputs right then you're
  682. 24:48going to underestimate if you don't
  683. 24:49adjust for quality or underestimate sort
  684. 24:51of this output elasticity
  685. 24:57um do you think what this exercise get
  686. 24:59easier or harder in the face of integer
  687. 25:02constraints so if if let's say my input
  688. 25:05is not actually smooth then I can scale
  689. 25:06up and down but actually there's only I
  690. 25:08can only have one worker or two I can
  691. 25:10only have one machine or two but I can't
  692. 25:13really scale these up I'm I'm trying to
  693. 25:15build an intuition if this is making my
  694. 25:17life harder or easier here
  695. 25:19yeah I mean I think there's there's
  696. 25:21there's uh there's two issues there so
  697. 25:23one is just kind of like the the
  698. 25:25mathematical issue of are you actually
  699. 25:27getting sort of a derivative here I
  700. 25:29think the other thing you mentioned is
  701. 25:30like are there constraints overall are
  702. 25:32you really getting the production
  703. 25:34function are you getting some reflection
  704. 25:35as constraints here
  705. 25:37um uh so I think you know I think that
  706. 25:39kind of all falls into kind of this
  707. 25:40issue around identification challenges
  708. 25:41absolutely I mean this is a place where
  709. 25:43I think I think development literature
  710. 25:45can do a little better actually
  711. 25:48um so you know we have for example
  712. 25:51um interventions that have tried to
  713. 25:53increase for example like labor drops
  714. 25:55right I mean we've we've seen
  715. 25:56interventions like that we've seen
  716. 25:57Capital drops um and so I think you can
  717. 26:00imagine kind of getting at this
  718. 26:01experimentally rather than looking kind
  719. 26:03of cross uh you know uh within a firm
  720. 26:05and kind of thinking about those those
  721. 26:06constraints
  722. 26:07um the other thing is just on the
  723. 26:08measurement side for Quality
  724. 26:10measurements so if you are you know the
  725. 26:11downside is you don't have accounting
  726. 26:13data but if you're going out and
  727. 26:14actually talking to firms and you could
  728. 26:16measure quality you could potentially
  729. 26:17you know try to actually are measuring
  730. 26:19and you can try to also measure quality
  731. 26:21as well so I think there are ways to
  732. 26:23kind of try to deal with them but as you
  733. 26:25said there's lots of issues there I
  734. 26:26think that complicate this um this
  735. 26:28estimation
  736. 26:30um and the final thing is of course this
  737. 26:31is still descriptive right so again I
  738. 26:33think very useful for if you're thinking
  739. 26:34on markups as an outcome of a policy
  740. 26:37shock uh this is a very useful approach
  741. 26:39it's not as useful if you want to think
  742. 26:40about
  743. 26:41um uh you know what happens if you
  744. 26:43increase the degree of competition or
  745. 26:44you know if you're trying to estimate
  746. 26:46the impact of policies that you're not
  747. 26:47observing in practice
  748. 26:50okay
  749. 26:51um and then sort of you know the last
  750. 26:52last kind of very large bucket of
  751. 26:54approaches that I'll talk about here is
  752. 26:55just kind of the full structural
  753. 26:56modeling um this is kind of the
  754. 26:58traditional i o approach and I'm going
  755. 27:00to go over in a really high level detail
  756. 27:01but you can think about for those who
  757. 27:02are familiar like the very classic blp
  758. 27:04approach
  759. 27:06and this approach you basically assume a
  760. 27:07particular utility or demand function
  761. 27:09you try to get supply shifters to
  762. 27:12estimate demand elasticity and then you
  763. 27:14assume particular Market structure and
  764. 27:15firm behavior and those two things
  765. 27:17together imply particular uh markups or
  766. 27:20marginal costs
  767. 27:21now of course the benefit here is you
  768. 27:23know everything so you can do lots of
  769. 27:24counter factuals
  770. 27:26um the downside is there's lots of
  771. 27:27assumptions so you're assuming you know
  772. 27:29the shape of demand
  773. 27:31um you're even assuming Market structure
  774. 27:33right so if the goal is to identify the
  775. 27:35market structure this is not a fruitful
  776. 27:36approach I will say In fairness you know
  777. 27:39not all these papers do this so this
  778. 27:40very famous paper by Aviv Nevo on um on
  779. 27:43ready to use cereals actually goes
  780. 27:45through exercise for three possible
  781. 27:47Market structures and then compares the
  782. 27:49kind of implied markups
  783. 27:51um to actual accounting estimates right
  784. 27:54so you know you can and that would be
  785. 27:55actually a somewhat similar approach to
  786. 27:57what we'll do in my paper with Michael
  787. 27:58dinnerstein
  788. 28:00um so they don't all assume this but a
  789. 28:01lot of them do and then it's sort of
  790. 28:02circular for not useful for identifying
  791. 28:05Market structure
  792. 28:06the final thing that I think is a little
  793. 28:08specific uh to uh development uh from
  794. 28:12this approach
  795. 28:13um but also maybe through a little bit
  796. 28:15in in the general literature but
  797. 28:17especially in development is I think
  798. 28:18it's pretty hard to find good
  799. 28:19instruments to estimate this demand
  800. 28:21elasticity right and so in particular in
  801. 28:23the developing country context you know
  802. 28:25I work for example a lot in agricultural
  803. 28:27markets so it's not so hard to think
  804. 28:30about
  805. 28:31um uh you know Finding shifters of
  806. 28:33Supply so think for example about
  807. 28:35um you know weather shocks shifting
  808. 28:36supply of production different areas
  809. 28:38but in a setting which you've got very
  810. 28:40small markets and your producers are
  811. 28:42also your local consumers of course as
  812. 28:44there's weather shocks you're changing
  813. 28:46household income which is going to
  814. 28:47change demand in a bunch of ways so
  815. 28:49actually identifying clean shocks I
  816. 28:51think in these smaller markets where you
  817. 28:52have kind of this overlap between who's
  818. 28:54the producer and who's a consumer
  819. 28:56um can be quite challenging
  820. 28:58that said I also view this as a as a
  821. 29:00place really as an opportunity for
  822. 29:01development right so we do a lot you
  823. 29:03know one of the things that development
  824. 29:05economists are good at though not
  825. 29:06exclusively as running experiments so I
  826. 29:08think there's actually lots of ways to
  827. 29:09think about experimentally estimating
  828. 29:12some of these uh key parameters that
  829. 29:14aren't going to then rely on these
  830. 29:16um uh instruments or identification
  831. 29:17assumptions
  832. 29:21okay so let's turn now to uh one example
  833. 29:23of that which is
  834. 29:25um work that I uh with Michael
  835. 29:26dinnerstein uh in Kenya and it's
  836. 29:28basically an experimental approach
  837. 29:31um to measuring the degree of
  838. 29:33competition in these markets let me give
  839. 29:35you a very kind of high level uh
  840. 29:37motivation behind this project
  841. 29:39um and just hold up the setting so uh
  842. 29:42we're working agricultural markets in
  843. 29:43Kenya it's pretty common to see pretty
  844. 29:46large variation in prices across these
  845. 29:48markets and it suggests these markets
  846. 29:49are sort of imperfectly integrated
  847. 29:52and this is a big interest of policy
  848. 29:54makers you know they're concerned kind
  849. 29:55of on two fronts one is that you know
  850. 29:57there seem to be low prices for farmers
  851. 30:00props are their main source of income
  852. 30:01and the flip side can have high prices
  853. 30:03for consumers and that raises issues of
  854. 30:05food insecurities there's a question
  855. 30:06that's kind of you know where is this
  856. 30:08this Gap coming from
  857. 30:10uh of course just High transaction costs
  858. 30:12play a large role so there's High
  859. 30:14transport cost search costs risk Etc
  860. 30:17but many policy makers are concerned
  861. 30:19that part of that Gap in prices between
  862. 30:21say farm gate price and Consumer Price
  863. 30:23Is markups by intermediaries so traders
  864. 30:26who are buying from Farmers
  865. 30:28um and selling to Consumers
  866. 30:30and the idea here in this context is
  867. 30:32there actually this is the context where
  868. 30:33there are not large barriers legal
  869. 30:35barriers to entry at least not ones that
  870. 30:37are enforced
  871. 30:39um but there are large de facto barriers
  872. 30:41so you have to have a good deal of
  873. 30:42working capital also a network of
  874. 30:44contacts to enter into the industry and
  875. 30:47the idea is these barriers might allow
  876. 30:49these intermediaries who are then you
  877. 30:51know the few who are able to overcome
  878. 30:53these barriers might be able to exert
  879. 30:54Market power
  880. 30:55and potentially it include
  881. 30:59so that's the back story so uh in this
  882. 31:01paper we're going to provide
  883. 31:02experimental and model based evidence on
  884. 31:05three questions so first what is the
  885. 31:07market structure and level of
  886. 31:08competition among Traders two how does
  887. 31:11this Market structure affect consumers
  888. 31:13and three what role does entry have in
  889. 31:15facilitating competition
  890. 31:17so I want to give you kind of I'll tell
  891. 31:19you more detail about the experiments in
  892. 31:21a bit but before I get into the theory I
  893. 31:23want to give you a very high level of
  894. 31:24understanding of the experiments because
  895. 31:26they map to the theory pretty closely so
  896. 31:29we uh work in 60 markets in Kenya we
  897. 31:31want run three field experiments and
  898. 31:34each of these experiments estimates a
  899. 31:36key parameter or moment in the model of
  900. 31:39competition demand and Market entry okay
  901. 31:41so the first experiment again I'll give
  902. 31:43you more details in a moment the first
  903. 31:44experiment is designed to estimate
  904. 31:46pass-through so in this experiment we
  905. 31:49offer to all traders who are located in
  906. 31:52randomly selected markets we offer them
  907. 31:55a subsidy per bag of maize that they
  908. 31:58sell to Consumers and we model this like
  909. 32:00a reduction in their marginal cost
  910. 32:03and we measure how much that reduction
  911. 32:05in marginal cost they pass through to
  912. 32:07consumers in the form of lower prices so
  913. 32:09we're going to get experimental
  914. 32:10estimates of pass through
  915. 32:13in the second experiment we estimate
  916. 32:14demand
  917. 32:15so we offer randomized reductions in the
  918. 32:18price to Consumers and we measure the
  919. 32:20corresponding quantities they buy at
  920. 32:22those randomly reduced prices and that's
  921. 32:24allow us to estimate demand and in
  922. 32:25particular I'll show you in a moment
  923. 32:27from the theory that the curvature of
  924. 32:28demand is going to be the really key
  925. 32:29feature here
  926. 32:31these two things together and tell us a
  927. 32:33lot about the underlying
  928. 32:35um model of competition that these
  929. 32:37Traders are operating under
  930. 32:40and then third experiment measures the
  931. 32:42impact of entry and competition so in
  932. 32:45this experiment we randomly offer
  933. 32:47um an entry subsidy to bring new Traders
  934. 32:50into the market and we measure what
  935. 32:52happens to prices and what happens there
  936. 32:54for the competition when new entrants
  937. 32:55come in
  938. 32:58we're going to then take these
  939. 33:00experimentally estimated parameters and
  940. 33:02embed them in a structural model and
  941. 33:04that's going to help us to identify the
  942. 33:05level of competition and the effects
  943. 33:08eventually
  944. 33:11okay so a little more detail here so
  945. 33:13we're working here in Western Kenya in
  946. 33:15these 60 markets you can see here on
  947. 33:16this around this area called bungoma and
  948. 33:18kakamega
  949. 33:21um the way these markets work they're
  950. 33:23sort of open air weekly markets so for
  951. 33:24example you might have your local market
  952. 33:26might be a Thursday market so every
  953. 33:27Thursday there's a market
  954. 33:29Traders show up bringing Maize to these
  955. 33:31markets uh they'll bring them in these
  956. 33:33trucks and they'll sell out of the back
  957. 33:34of their trucks
  958. 33:35this is sort of the most common thing
  959. 33:37you'll see where there are there are the
  960. 33:39model the modal uh Market has three
  961. 33:41Traders and they'll sell basically to
  962. 33:42Consumers um who line up right here out
  963. 33:45of the back of their truck
  964. 33:48um
  965. 33:49you know I think I'll skip most of this
  966. 33:51let me say I think the basic thing to
  967. 33:53take away here is this is
  968. 33:55um you know pretty much a spot Market of
  969. 33:56pretty homogeneous Goods so there's very
  970. 33:58little sold on credits
  971. 34:00um there's not much evidence of price
  972. 34:01discrimination or product
  973. 34:02differentiation or Price stickiness so
  974. 34:04you might think this is actually a
  975. 34:05pretty competitive market
  976. 34:07um on the other hand you can see these
  977. 34:09guys are sitting right next to each
  978. 34:10other it's not so hard for them to
  979. 34:12observe each other's prices and talk
  980. 34:18okay so let me now give you sort of the
  981. 34:20um the simplified theoretical framework
  982. 34:22that underlies uh our experimental
  983. 34:25approach
  984. 34:26um I should say and what I'm going to
  985. 34:27show you here I'm going to make a couple
  986. 34:28simplifying assumptions for example I'm
  987. 34:30going to assume constant marginal cost
  988. 34:32symmetry across Traders there's a full
  989. 34:35structural model in the paper that
  990. 34:37relaxes all those assumptions
  991. 34:39um it doesn't make a big difference for
  992. 34:41the results uh we still identify all of
  993. 34:44our our estimates experimentally when we
  994. 34:46relax uh those assumptions but I like
  995. 34:48this simplified approach
  996. 34:50um uh to show first because it really
  997. 34:52has a kind of clear mapping one to one
  998. 34:54between the parameters we're estimating
  999. 34:56in each experiment and the theory
  1000. 34:59let me kind of walk you through this
  1001. 35:00kind of simplified framework
  1002. 35:03so uh Trader J is going to choose
  1003. 35:05quantities right to Max maximize first
  1004. 35:09his profits right so just price Minus
  1005. 35:12cost times quantity again very simple
  1006. 35:15plus the weighted sum and we'll come
  1007. 35:18back these weights in a moment
  1008. 35:19of the profits of all of his rivals
  1009. 35:24and so how do we interpret this this
  1010. 35:26profit weight here this Omega so this is
  1011. 35:29going to basically embed two
  1012. 35:30well-defined
  1013. 35:32um uh models of competition okay so when
  1014. 35:34this is zero right this when Omega zero
  1015. 35:36this whole term goes away and we're just
  1016. 35:38back to Cornell competition
  1017. 35:42conversely The Other Extreme when Omega
  1018. 35:43is one right that's as if the trader is
  1019. 35:47putting equal weight on his own profits
  1020. 35:49and his Rivals profits
  1021. 35:51they're basically maximizing as if
  1022. 35:53they're a single firm that's perfect
  1023. 35:54collusion and there's ways to even embed
  1024. 35:56kind of Birch Run competition in here as
  1025. 35:58well
  1026. 36:02so we can take the first derivative with
  1027. 36:04respect to quantity to get the optimal
  1028. 36:06condition for price so price is going to
  1029. 36:09equal Cost Plus some markup term here
  1030. 36:10right
  1031. 36:12and this markup term is going to depend
  1032. 36:13of course in the shape of demand which
  1033. 36:15will estimate and come back to in a
  1034. 36:16moment
  1035. 36:17but it's also going to depend on two
  1036. 36:19features that are determining
  1037. 36:20competition okay first is n the number
  1038. 36:22of traders in the market
  1039. 36:24and then second this is Omega term right
  1040. 36:26how do those Traders interact
  1041. 36:32so we're going to uh summarize those two
  1042. 36:34features of competition the number of
  1043. 36:37traders in the market and the way those
  1044. 36:39Traders interact into a single
  1045. 36:41competitiveness index parameter right
  1046. 36:44and this is going to be useful in just a
  1047. 36:45moment
  1048. 36:46and again we can think what this is when
  1049. 36:48when we're no competitive environment or
  1050. 36:50a collusive environment okay and again
  1051. 36:52also nespertrand
  1052. 36:54okay so I'll come back to why we've kind
  1053. 36:56of gone through the algebra here on
  1054. 36:57Sigma in just a moment
  1055. 36:59let's go back to the first order
  1056. 37:00condition here again remember prices
  1057. 37:02equal Cost Plus a markup term here
  1058. 37:05so we can take the derivative respect to
  1059. 37:07cost okay and that's going to get an
  1060. 37:08equation for pass through so what is
  1061. 37:10passed through passthrough is How do
  1062. 37:11prices change when costs change
  1063. 37:14and what you can show is this is this
  1064. 37:16past is going to be a function basically
  1065. 37:17of two features of the market the first
  1066. 37:19is that competitiveness parameter okay
  1067. 37:21the sigma
  1068. 37:23and the second is this e term okay this
  1069. 37:25e term is reflected on demand and
  1070. 37:27specifically e is equal to the
  1071. 37:29elasticity of the slope of inverse
  1072. 37:31demand so that's more complicated than
  1073. 37:33just the elasticity of demand this is an
  1074. 37:35elasticity of the slope how is the slope
  1075. 37:37changing with quantity
  1076. 37:39and I'll give you some graphical
  1077. 37:41intuition on that in just a bit but you
  1078. 37:42want to think of basically the curvature
  1079. 37:43of Demand Being particularly important
  1080. 37:45here
  1081. 37:46right so again the takeaway here is that
  1082. 37:48Pastor is reflective of the degree of
  1083. 37:51competition in the market and demand
  1084. 37:54so let me now map that to the
  1085. 37:56experiments we're going to run in this
  1086. 37:58paper
  1087. 38:00so we're going to estimate rho or pass
  1088. 38:02through from the pass through experiment
  1089. 38:05we're going to estimate e this term on
  1090. 38:07demand from the demand experiment and
  1091. 38:09those two things together are going to
  1092. 38:10allow us to back out the implied
  1093. 38:12competitiveness parameter right so when
  1094. 38:14we combine these two features of the
  1095. 38:16data we're going to be able to say you
  1096. 38:17know this is the underlying sort of
  1097. 38:19model competition that best fits what
  1098. 38:22we're observing in the marketplace
  1099. 38:26let me pause there and ask their
  1100. 38:27questions
  1101. 38:31um Lauren there's one from the chat
  1102. 38:34um how confident do you feel about the
  1103. 38:36market boundaries is that Arbitrage
  1104. 38:38going on between subsidized
  1105. 38:39non-subsidized markets although you can
  1106. 38:41you may want to answer that in a few
  1107. 38:43minutes yeah no it's a great question so
  1108. 38:45we um and that matters I should say uh
  1109. 38:48for
  1110. 38:49um for for uh for measurements in a
  1111. 38:51couple ways right so
  1112. 38:53um uh for example if our control markets
  1113. 38:55are too close to our uh treated markets
  1114. 38:58then we might be changing prices and
  1115. 38:59control markets right and then we're not
  1116. 39:01going to get the right estimate of
  1117. 39:02passing so there's a really basic sort
  1118. 39:04of measurement issue here so we
  1119. 39:05intentionally spread out our markets
  1120. 39:07quite a bit so we did a census of
  1121. 39:08markets and then basically kind of Drew
  1122. 39:10parameters or you know or or radii
  1123. 39:13around each of the markets in our sample
  1124. 39:15and so we intentionally spread them out
  1125. 39:16and we could you know test for what
  1126. 39:18happens to having a market sort of
  1127. 39:20somewhat nearby that's treated it
  1128. 39:21doesn't affect your your quantities
  1129. 39:24um so we don't think there's an effect
  1130. 39:25on our control group I will say it does
  1131. 39:28seem like there might be some slight
  1132. 39:29sort of business stealing from other
  1133. 39:31closer markets that are not in our
  1134. 39:33sample
  1135. 39:34um and we have sort of an appendix sort
  1136. 39:35of looking at that so I think this is um
  1137. 39:37uh and that's real I should say that's
  1138. 39:39real additional business for the Traders
  1139. 39:41so I think it's sort of okay to include
  1140. 39:42in our estimates here
  1141. 39:44um but that is a slightly nuanced point
  1142. 39:45and I think it's really critical when
  1143. 39:47you think about in general doing Market
  1144. 39:49level experimentation to think
  1145. 39:51critically about these boundaries um in
  1146. 39:53terms of how they affect one year
  1147. 39:55measurement of the treatment effect and
  1148. 39:57then two kind of your interpretation of
  1149. 39:58what that means I'm happy to come back
  1150. 40:00to that sort of once we go through the
  1151. 40:01experiment or even at the very end when
  1152. 40:03I discuss sort of at the end of this uh
  1153. 40:05lecture I'll discuss more broadly kind
  1154. 40:07of Market level experiments
  1155. 40:09that's a great question
  1156. 40:11there's one more quick one which is uh
  1157. 40:14you mentioned uh that um it's often
  1158. 40:18common that people are both producers
  1159. 40:20and consumers
  1160. 40:22um how do you deal with those issues for
  1161. 40:24example pass through maybe diff
  1162. 40:25different firms where the producers are
  1163. 40:28for a consumer yeah that's a good point
  1164. 40:30so in this context was we're working
  1165. 40:32with large Traders
  1166. 40:33um you know they are possible consumers
  1167. 40:35they're not going to be in our demand
  1168. 40:36experiment um there's a very small
  1169. 40:38number of them I worry about that much
  1170. 40:40more when you think about for example
  1171. 40:43um you know working with individual
  1172. 40:44farming households
  1173. 40:46um as as being kind of the firm in this
  1174. 40:48case The Firm here is going to be the
  1175. 40:49trader and so they're going to be kind
  1176. 40:50of the drop in the bucket in terms of uh
  1177. 40:52in terms of demand
  1178. 40:56um and for the panelists I should say it
  1179. 40:58might help if you have questions if you
  1180. 40:59click the raise your hand button I think
  1181. 41:01you will then rise to the top of my
  1182. 41:02screen which could be helpful so just I
  1183. 41:03don't want to ignore any of you
  1184. 41:06um okay so uh in experiment one let me
  1185. 41:08tell you more details about each of the
  1186. 41:10experiments so in experiment one
  1187. 41:12um where we're targeting this this
  1188. 41:13pass-through parameter so how did this
  1189. 41:16work so we randomly selected markets and
  1190. 41:19then those randomly selected markets we
  1191. 41:20offered uh to all traders in the market
  1192. 41:23a subsidy per Bank sold uh and the goal
  1193. 41:26here again is to sort of mimic a common
  1194. 41:28shock to their marginal cost
  1195. 41:31so we offered to all traders in a given
  1196. 41:33Market the same subsidy level but there
  1197. 41:36was randomized variation across markets
  1198. 41:38so in three quarters of the markets we
  1199. 41:40offered
  1200. 41:41um a low subsidy now low is just
  1201. 41:43relative to high it's still pretty large
  1202. 41:45and absolute value so it's eight percent
  1203. 41:46of total price
  1204. 41:48um and then according to the market we
  1205. 41:49offered a high subsidy of 15 of total
  1206. 41:52price
  1207. 41:53the reason we have this variation become
  1208. 41:55clear in a moment we're going to use
  1209. 41:56this to test a particular functional
  1210. 41:58form we're going to place uh on demand
  1211. 42:02the subsea is offered for four weekly
  1212. 42:04Market days in a row so if you're a
  1213. 42:05Thursday Market gets offered for four
  1214. 42:07Thursdays in a row covering a month in
  1215. 42:09total
  1216. 42:10um this is actually a big chunk of the
  1217. 42:11selling season the really active selling
  1218. 42:13Seasons about three or four months so
  1219. 42:15this is you know about a third or a
  1220. 42:16quarter of the selling season
  1221. 42:18and then I won't have time to describe
  1222. 42:20this much in detail but we have really
  1223. 42:22detailed transaction level data we had a
  1224. 42:23numerator so we're sitting there
  1225. 42:24monitoring sort of each transaction
  1226. 42:27um uh and that's going to allow us to
  1227. 42:29estimate how much of the subsidy is
  1228. 42:31passed through to Consumers yeah is
  1229. 42:33there a question
  1230. 42:34yeah what's the rationale for not
  1231. 42:36varying within the same Market over time
  1232. 42:39these rates wouldn't you get interesting
  1233. 42:40variation there yeah I should say
  1234. 42:42actually
  1235. 42:44silly so
  1236. 42:45I'm not sure I've been full but
  1237. 42:46essentially basically markets are kind
  1238. 42:48of rotating month by month through the
  1239. 42:49different treatment statuses so we are
  1240. 42:51able to basically include kind of Market
  1241. 42:52fixed Effects by seeing what happens
  1242. 42:54when a particular Market's in control
  1243. 42:56yeah
  1244. 42:57and that's actually pretty critical that
  1245. 42:58reduces our standard errors quite a bit
  1246. 43:01um
  1247. 43:02it also allows us to see kind of if
  1248. 43:04there's kind of any stickiness does it
  1249. 43:05affect crisis Next Period answer is no
  1250. 43:07so that's useful in a couple ways
  1251. 43:10a good question
  1252. 43:12um the second experiment is the demand
  1253. 43:14experiment okay so here we offered
  1254. 43:16randomized discounts and the prices that
  1255. 43:18are paid by individual uh consumers in
  1256. 43:20the market so here's how it works so
  1257. 43:22consumers would agree to a price and
  1258. 43:24quantity with a Trader
  1259. 43:26then after that we would have them draw
  1260. 43:28one of ten randomized discounts
  1261. 43:30we then allowed customers to choose the
  1262. 43:32quantity they wanted to purchase at that
  1263. 43:34reduction in price and what that's going
  1264. 43:36to give us basically is an exogenous
  1265. 43:38shift in price and the resulting change
  1266. 43:40in quantities and that's going to allow
  1267. 43:42us to parameterize a pretty flexible
  1268. 43:44functional form for demand and estimate
  1269. 43:46that curvature term that e-turn and I'll
  1270. 43:49give you more details on that that exact
  1271. 43:50estimation in a bit
  1272. 43:55the third experiment is estimating the
  1273. 43:57effect of Entry
  1274. 43:58so for each market
  1275. 44:00um we that was randomly selected for
  1276. 44:02entry we identify three sort of Entry
  1277. 44:05Traders these are potential entrants
  1278. 44:06folks we who have never worked in that
  1279. 44:08market before and we offer a grant to
  1280. 44:11enter the market on particular days and
  1281. 44:13attempt to sell
  1282. 44:15now we offer these three uh grants
  1283. 44:17partially just to make sure we got sort
  1284. 44:19of a strong first stage for entry
  1285. 44:21benefit of these three different entry
  1286. 44:23offers is we're able to randomize the
  1287. 44:25size of those grants into low medium
  1288. 44:27high
  1289. 44:28um that's basically like variation in
  1290. 44:31subsidizing their fixed costs to entry
  1291. 44:33or it's a fixed Grant and that's going
  1292. 44:34to allow us also to back up fixed costs
  1293. 44:36which is going to be quite important for
  1294. 44:38once we get variable profits
  1295. 44:39understanding sort of what total profits
  1296. 44:41look like
  1297. 44:43again these offers are given for four
  1298. 44:45weeks in a row the goal is here to do
  1299. 44:47sort of long-ish run entry
  1300. 44:49um and then we uh collect transaction
  1301. 44:51level data to measure the effects of
  1302. 44:53increasing the number of Traders on
  1303. 44:55prices and we can back out then the
  1304. 44:57model what happens to the underlying
  1305. 44:59model of competition
  1306. 45:01when entry happens
  1307. 45:05questions there on the on the design
  1308. 45:10yes
  1309. 45:13um I was wondering can you say anything
  1310. 45:14about how this um sort of encouraged or
  1311. 45:18incentivized entry different from uh
  1312. 45:22your the the entry of in the sort of
  1313. 45:25like a natural condition where they just
  1314. 45:28like do the do it themselves instead of
  1315. 45:31being in descendants and advise to do
  1316. 45:33that yeah how different is it gonna be
  1317. 45:36yeah so so
  1318. 45:38um so you know I think you might worry
  1319. 45:40that this is sort of artificial is this
  1320. 45:42kind of like you know natural entry
  1321. 45:45um and so we can't say for sure I mean I
  1322. 45:47will say we um you know we try to do it
  1323. 45:49for kind of long run there were actual
  1324. 45:50profits on the table for these folks
  1325. 45:52they actually went in there and actually
  1326. 45:53sold
  1327. 45:54um so people took it pretty seriously
  1328. 45:56there is a question of is this what you
  1329. 45:57would see sort of in reality of natural
  1330. 45:59entry and the way we can sort of answer
  1331. 46:01that we can't answer that for sure you
  1332. 46:02know that's an external validity
  1333. 46:03question what I can tell you is given
  1334. 46:05variation in what we do see you know how
  1335. 46:08would you then apply that to kind of
  1336. 46:09natural entry so for example
  1337. 46:12um just to preview something I'll share
  1338. 46:13in a moment we found that it was easier
  1339. 46:15to get uh entrance so no one had worked
  1340. 46:18there before but it was easier to get
  1341. 46:20entrance in who knew the incumbent so a
  1342. 46:23lot of these guys kind of know each
  1343. 46:24other
  1344. 46:26um so some people kind of knew some of
  1345. 46:27that incumbent some people didn't we
  1346. 46:30basically
  1347. 46:31um for lower values of that entry Grant
  1348. 46:34people were more willing to go if they
  1349. 46:36knew the incumbents and so you might
  1350. 46:37think that's then meaning that in
  1351. 46:39reality if you weren't subsidizing the
  1352. 46:41entrance I'm more likely to kind of know
  1353. 46:42the incumbents then the second question
  1354. 46:44you should ask is how does that then
  1355. 46:46change the effects of Entry right
  1356. 46:49um and we find basically and I'm you
  1357. 46:51know totally spoiling the ending here
  1358. 46:52but what we find basically is that
  1359. 46:53entrance by you know entry by uh enters
  1360. 46:57who know the incumbents doesn't doesn't
  1361. 46:58increase competition at all
  1362. 47:00um so it's going to look collusive
  1363. 47:02before it has to look Lucid after
  1364. 47:04um entry by new traders who don't know
  1365. 47:06the incumbents does actually seem to do
  1366. 47:08a little bit for increasing the degree
  1367. 47:09of competition we do see more price
  1368. 47:11drops with those with those uh that
  1369. 47:13level entry but those are the guys who
  1370. 47:15are hard to get in so if you think about
  1371. 47:16kind of the marginal entrant in reality
  1372. 47:18it's not going to be the totally new
  1373. 47:20guys right
  1374. 47:22um and so that's sort of what we can say
  1375. 47:23given the variation that we see in the
  1376. 47:24data
  1377. 47:27yeah Timothy
  1378. 47:31uh just a very operational question
  1379. 47:33about like managing this in the field
  1380. 47:35yeah the enumerators can see all of the
  1381. 47:39like they're standing one place and can
  1382. 47:41see all of the trades happening at once
  1383. 47:43how how much can the Traders see of each
  1384. 47:45other how do you hire the right number
  1385. 47:48of people to make sure that you're
  1386. 47:49observing enough that you're actually
  1387. 47:51yeah yeah this was like a whole you know
  1388. 47:53the whole field operation so
  1389. 47:55um so uh we had a variable number of
  1390. 47:58enumerators so there are there are many
  1391. 47:59more than one there's sometimes
  1392. 48:01one-to-one mapping of enumerators to
  1393. 48:02Traders it really depended on the
  1394. 48:04overall sort of
  1395. 48:06um uh uh intensity of trade sort of in
  1396. 48:09that part of the season so um for very
  1397. 48:11intense part of the Season we had a
  1398. 48:12one-to-one mapping of an enumerator to a
  1399. 48:14to a Trader uh and less intense ones
  1400. 48:17where there were fewer transactions you
  1401. 48:18know we had a you know one enumerator
  1402. 48:19maybe for every two Traders they can go
  1403. 48:21back and forth but they're literally
  1404. 48:22observing every uh every transaction
  1405. 48:26um so it was very healthy this is not a
  1406. 48:27cheap experiment it was very labor
  1407. 48:29intensive and the traders in all of
  1408. 48:31these markets can always see what the
  1409. 48:33other Traders are doing yeah because
  1410. 48:35um uh and there is some variability in
  1411. 48:37this but if you look back to kind of the
  1412. 48:39the layout so you know can these guys
  1413. 48:41see what the others are doing maybe not
  1414. 48:44but they're they're generally very
  1415. 48:45clustered in the in the marketplace now
  1416. 48:47there's reasons for that totally besides
  1417. 48:48collusion which is like this reduces
  1418. 48:50search costs for consumers right to know
  1419. 48:52you kind of go to this part of the
  1420. 48:53market and you see so I think this is
  1421. 48:54not like prima facie evidence that's
  1422. 48:55collusion but yes they're very close
  1423. 48:57together and they're kind of sitting
  1424. 48:58there chit chatting out of the back of
  1425. 48:59their trucks
  1426. 49:02um uh I will say we do in that
  1427. 49:04measurement of transaction cost
  1428. 49:06um uh we tried to also or sorry of
  1429. 49:08prices we also measure are there sort of
  1430. 49:10less obvious changes to prices like for
  1431. 49:12example there are these little things
  1432. 49:13called top-ups which means you might
  1433. 49:15give a few extra kgs of maize that we're
  1434. 49:18not included in the price you might even
  1435. 49:19give a Coke or money for a motorcycle
  1436. 49:21tax to take and those things uh when we
  1437. 49:24include them that actually does increase
  1438. 49:25the degree of pass-through observed by
  1439. 49:27about one to two percent so that might
  1440. 49:29be a slight way that there's kind of you
  1441. 49:30know those are less observable ways of
  1442. 49:32cutting the price but it's pretty
  1443. 49:33Limited
  1444. 49:36other questions
  1445. 49:40okay so let me show you I've contribute
  1446. 49:41already the results a little bit so we
  1447. 49:42basically very limited pass through
  1448. 49:44um so we're able to estimate a pretty
  1449. 49:46precise uh 22.4 pass the rate
  1450. 49:50um that doesn't change by uh first of
  1451. 49:52all the low high distinction okay so
  1452. 49:54it's almost an identical pass-through
  1453. 49:56rate
  1454. 49:57um even when you double the size of the
  1455. 49:59the shock and we'll come back to that in
  1456. 50:01a moment
  1457. 50:02there's also no obvious heterogeneity by
  1458. 50:03for example it's not the case that in
  1459. 50:05larger markets you see greater faster
  1460. 50:07than smaller that's already some
  1461. 50:08evidence against uh corn no competition
  1462. 50:10but we'll come back to that in a moment
  1463. 50:12okay so overall kind of 22 pass through
  1464. 50:14rate
  1465. 50:15now you'll want to ask how do we
  1466. 50:17interpret that pass through rate right
  1467. 50:18what underlying model of competition has
  1468. 50:21given a rise to this empirically
  1469. 50:22observed 22 pass-through rate and I
  1470. 50:25wanted to give you like very simple econ
  1471. 50:27one graphical intuition on why we don't
  1472. 50:29know unless we understand what demand
  1473. 50:31looks like right and so what I want to
  1474. 50:33point out here is you could have Justice
  1475. 50:34equally been in a collusive environment
  1476. 50:36or a Chrono competitive environment that
  1477. 50:38gave rise that 22 passed through rate so
  1478. 50:40why is that so we've basically induced
  1479. 50:43this experimental reduction in marginal
  1480. 50:44cost we've seen you know this reduction
  1481. 50:47in price the ratio here is kind of
  1482. 50:49roughly imagine it's 22 percent
  1483. 50:52um uh this could have come from this
  1484. 50:54model of collusive behavior but it could
  1485. 50:56have also does this easily be Observer
  1486. 50:59observational equivalent of a core no
  1487. 51:01competitive environments uh uh with uh
  1488. 51:04with this shape demand okay so the
  1489. 51:05really critical thing to know are we in
  1490. 51:07this world or this world is
  1491. 51:09understanding the curvature of demand
  1492. 51:11okay so that's that's why we have to go
  1493. 51:13to the second experiment to estimate
  1494. 51:15demand to back out from this
  1495. 51:16pass-through rate what is the underlying
  1496. 51:18model of competition
  1497. 51:20so that's the demand experiment so this
  1498. 51:23is just showing you kind of the raw data
  1499. 51:24from the demand experiment so we offered
  1500. 51:26these randomized reductions uh in price
  1501. 51:29we measure the corresponding change in
  1502. 51:31quantities okay so you know downward
  1503. 51:33sloping demand that's that's a good
  1504. 51:35first start
  1505. 51:36okay so this is the raw data
  1506. 51:38we're then basically going to use this
  1507. 51:40experimental variation and price to
  1508. 51:42estimate a general sort of below fighter
  1509. 51:43class of demand functions now this may
  1510. 51:46look a little bit funky or unusual but I
  1511. 51:48want to just highlight a couple things
  1512. 51:49you know the first is that this actually
  1513. 51:50nests a bunch of demand functions that
  1514. 51:52are probably much more familiar to you
  1515. 51:54this is going to demand Nest linear
  1516. 51:56quadratic isoelastic
  1517. 51:59the reason we're using this particular
  1518. 52:01class of demand function is because the
  1519. 52:03the kind of defining feature of this
  1520. 52:04class of demand functions
  1521. 52:06um is it's going to capture curvature
  1522. 52:08with a very small number of parameters
  1523. 52:10okay the coverage we really care about
  1524. 52:11and here under this class of demand
  1525. 52:13functions this Delta here is going to be
  1526. 52:15the really critical piece okay so here
  1527. 52:17that very complicated e term is going to
  1528. 52:19simplify the Delta minus one okay it's
  1529. 52:21going to be pretty parsimonious and much
  1530. 52:22more tractable
  1531. 52:24now you might say okay it's parsimonious
  1532. 52:26intractable but is it totally crazy does
  1533. 52:27it actually fit the setting and that's
  1534. 52:29where those two different size subsidies
  1535. 52:31come into play right so one prediction
  1536. 52:33out of this class of demand functions is
  1537. 52:34that for you know a given Market
  1538. 52:36structure which it was randomized the
  1539. 52:38market structures should be the same and
  1540. 52:39low high subsidies you should see a
  1541. 52:41constant pass-through rate okay and
  1542. 52:43that's what we find so I think there's
  1543. 52:44some empirical support as well for this
  1544. 52:48um so you know we're gonna take log
  1545. 52:49first differences the previous equation
  1546. 52:51and estimate this using GMM the really
  1547. 52:53key thing here is we're using the
  1548. 52:54randomized subsidy amounts as an
  1549. 52:56instrument for price
  1550. 52:58so these are the results
  1551. 53:00um Delta here as I mentioned is kind of
  1552. 53:01the the key term so harassment Delta's
  1553. 53:04around four
  1554. 53:05I want to highlight something very
  1555. 53:06transparently which is we're getting
  1556. 53:08really large confidence intervals here
  1557. 53:10in Delta okay and that should not be a
  1558. 53:11big surprise to you Delta is the second
  1559. 53:13order sort of curvature term okay so you
  1560. 53:16know we can just barely rule out kind of
  1561. 53:18linear linear demand which would be a
  1562. 53:19Delta of one
  1563. 53:21we also cannot rule out you know a very
  1564. 53:24curved Delta of of a very curved demand
  1565. 53:26of adult of sex okay
  1566. 53:28okay so we're not getting kind of
  1567. 53:30precision this really critical term
  1568. 53:31but what I'm going to show you in the
  1569. 53:33next couple of slides is that first if
  1570. 53:34you take Delta at its Point estimate
  1571. 53:36okay the right model of competition is
  1572. 53:38going to sort of jump out at you it's
  1573. 53:39gonna be very obvious kind of what fits
  1574. 53:41with this particular estimate
  1575. 53:43the other thing I'm going to show you
  1576. 53:44the second thing is that even if you
  1577. 53:46take into account all the uncertainty in
  1578. 53:47Delta we still have enough Precision to
  1579. 53:50rule out some of the other common models
  1580. 53:52of competition
  1581. 53:53so let me show that to you now
  1582. 53:55so remember sort of for the simplest
  1583. 53:57model price can be a function of that
  1584. 53:59competitiveness parameter and demand
  1585. 54:01okay and now here because we have this
  1586. 54:03particular functional form that e
  1587. 54:04distrib is basically just simplifying to
  1588. 54:06Delta
  1589. 54:07okay so let's put all the kind of pieces
  1590. 54:08together
  1591. 54:09so now we've estimated Delta from the
  1592. 54:12demand experiment
  1593. 54:13we have
  1594. 54:15um you know benchmarks for Sigma under
  1595. 54:17various Market structures right we can
  1596. 54:19test collusive or no competitive or sort
  1597. 54:21of Patron competition
  1598. 54:23and so we can say putting these two
  1599. 54:25pieces together you know what pass
  1600. 54:27through eight what row here should we
  1601. 54:29have expected if markets are operating
  1602. 54:31under each of these Market structures
  1603. 54:34so let me show that Benchmark to you
  1604. 54:36here okay so our predictions given our
  1605. 54:39estimate of demand curvature is that if
  1606. 54:41markets are are Bertrand right we should
  1607. 54:44see 100 pass-through
  1608. 54:46if they're acting core no competitive
  1609. 54:48given kind of distribution of the number
  1610. 54:49of Traders we should see on average of
  1611. 54:5146 percent pass through and if they're
  1612. 54:54collusive we should see almost a 20 pass
  1613. 54:56through right okay so those are the
  1614. 54:58benchmarks we want to now compare this
  1615. 55:00to empirically what we actually observe
  1616. 55:01as the past the range
  1617. 55:04and so here's what we found so you
  1618. 55:05already saw we have a 22 pass-through
  1619. 55:07and this is the bootstrapped um
  1620. 55:09confidence interval of 95 confidence
  1621. 55:10interval around uh around around the
  1622. 55:13estimate right so we can rule out here
  1623. 55:14for no competitive embertron
  1624. 55:17so it's very clear sort of given at
  1625. 55:19least the point estimate Delta what the
  1626. 55:20right model is
  1627. 55:22now you should say well yes but there's
  1628. 55:23that huge confidence interval around
  1629. 55:24Delta are we really confident right
  1630. 55:26and so we can do is basically just
  1631. 55:28rearrange those terms right we're just
  1632. 55:29going to solve here for a sigma and now
  1633. 55:31we can take into account all the
  1634. 55:33variation of Delta all the variation in
  1635. 55:35in row right taking the bootstrap
  1636. 55:36distribution of both of those right and
  1637. 55:38get the the point estimate and
  1638. 55:39distribution on Sigma
  1639. 55:41I'm going to slightly adjust this to
  1640. 55:43solve it sort of as the profit weight I
  1641. 55:44think that's a little bit cleaner
  1642. 55:45mapping back to the theory so remember
  1643. 55:47one is collusive and zero for no
  1644. 55:49competitive okay that's the weight that
  1645. 55:50you're putting on your Rivals profits
  1646. 55:54and we see as our Point estimate right
  1647. 55:56is an Omega of 0.78 so almost an
  1648. 55:59estimate of one basically and even given
  1649. 56:02all that variation right even given our
  1650. 56:03imprecision and our estimate it's also
  1651. 56:05we can still rule out with 95 confidence
  1652. 56:08an Omega estimate that's consistent with
  1653. 56:10Cornell so we say is given the point
  1654. 56:13estimate we're you know it looks really
  1655. 56:14close to exactly expect given collusive
  1656. 56:17competition uh collusion and we can rule
  1657. 56:19out Cornell competition
  1658. 56:24we do a bunch of other stuff in the
  1659. 56:26paper so I mentioned we kind of moved
  1660. 56:27beyond that simple model we account for
  1661. 56:29a potential non-uh constant marginal
  1662. 56:31cost again using additional experimental
  1663. 56:34variation we bring in Trader hygenity
  1664. 56:36demand heterogeneity
  1665. 56:38it doesn't change much so our estimate
  1666. 56:39of Omega given all that is is 1.07 okay
  1667. 56:42but very you know again still very much
  1668. 56:44centered around that kind of one that's
  1669. 56:45the collusive benchmark
  1670. 56:48we then I won't have time today to
  1671. 56:50discuss kind of the the full entry
  1672. 56:51result but I've already previewed them
  1673. 56:52uh for you right so first the take-up of
  1674. 56:54that subsidy amount is going to allow us
  1675. 56:56to estimate the distribution of fixed
  1676. 56:58cost
  1677. 56:59then we see what is the impact of
  1678. 57:01entrance okay and we find basically the
  1679. 57:02entry by one additional Trader is
  1680. 57:04reducing prices by about one percent so
  1681. 57:06it's significant it's pretty precisely
  1682. 57:07estimated but it's a pretty small
  1683. 57:09reduction in prices we see this
  1684. 57:11heterogeneity by this feature I
  1685. 57:13mentioned before do Traders have
  1686. 57:15contacts in the market okay so when they
  1687. 57:16already have contacts in the market you
  1688. 57:19can see it's really not changing Omega
  1689. 57:20metric going from you know 1.07 to 0.95
  1690. 57:23so you know you you can reject uh
  1691. 57:26Cornell competition and you clearly
  1692. 57:27cannot reject kind of collusion at one
  1693. 57:30on the other hand entry by completely
  1694. 57:32new traders who don't have any contacts
  1695. 57:34with incumbents or don't know the
  1696. 57:35incumbents at all actually does seem to
  1697. 57:36decrease competition so here we actually
  1698. 57:38can rule out a collusive behavior okay
  1699. 57:41and we can't rule out uh Cornell so it
  1700. 57:43does look like this uh entry by new
  1701. 57:45Traders does seem to increase the real
  1702. 57:47competition but if we go back to kind of
  1703. 57:50those take up results right who's most
  1704. 57:51likely to take up we find it's harder to
  1705. 57:54get Traders without context to enter you
  1706. 57:55literally need to pay them more to get
  1707. 57:57them to go it suggests right that having
  1708. 57:59contacts that sort of facilitates your
  1709. 58:00willingness to enter
  1710. 58:03okay so you know given all the structure
  1711. 58:05we can do a lot to kind of quantify what
  1712. 58:07do markups look like what do variable
  1713. 58:08profits look like
  1714. 58:10um I'll say you know markups are pretty
  1715. 58:11large they're kind of in the 40 to 50
  1716. 58:13range
  1717. 58:14but fixed costs are also pretty large
  1718. 58:16and so that's going to dissipate 71 to
  1719. 58:19the variable profits okay so actually
  1720. 58:20for the median Trader they're not making
  1721. 58:22huge profits in this context however
  1722. 58:25there's lots of variability across
  1723. 58:27Traders okay so the largest traders who
  1724. 58:29are serving the largest part of the
  1725. 58:30market they are making really large
  1726. 58:32profits and so you know the take home
  1727. 58:34here is that even though the median
  1728. 58:37Trader is not making huge profits the
  1729. 58:39typical consumer is being served by a
  1730. 58:41Trader who is so when you think about
  1731. 58:42kind of total Surplus in the market
  1732. 58:44Traders are capturing you know over 80
  1733. 58:46percent of the Surplus in the market
  1734. 58:50and then finally we can do you know
  1735. 58:51counter factuals again because we've
  1736. 58:52estimated sort of all the things we need
  1737. 58:54uh to describe the market we can
  1738. 58:56estimate counterfactuals what happens if
  1739. 58:58we go from kind of this collusive
  1740. 59:00Benchmark which what we estimate is sort
  1741. 59:02of the right model of the current degree
  1742. 59:04of competition and what if we're able to
  1743. 59:06kind of lower that Omega down to core no
  1744. 59:08competitive right to increase the degree
  1745. 59:10of competition going to the left
  1746. 59:12and so as you expect you know consumer
  1747. 59:14surplus kind of goes way up
  1748. 59:16um that's partially at the cost of
  1749. 59:19Trader Surplus going down
  1750. 59:21um but it's also partially coming from a
  1751. 59:22reduction in debate loss right uh as
  1752. 59:25you're decreasing sort of the market
  1753. 59:26power in this environment
  1754. 59:30um let me actually pause there and ask
  1755. 59:32their questions on on that paper
  1756. 59:36yeah please
  1757. 59:39um so I was wondering if you could say
  1758. 59:41um this probably goes beyond the scope
  1759. 59:43of the study but I was wondering if you
  1760. 59:45could say something about the structure
  1761. 59:46of the market
  1762. 59:48um like in a sense that because I feel
  1763. 59:49like this is the the results shows that
  1764. 59:52there is a stable sort of collusion
  1765. 59:54going on so what is supporting this
  1766. 59:56what's the mechanism behind this um
  1767. 59:58joint profit maximizing and we also see
  1768. 1:00:02there are like
  1769. 1:00:03um some Giants basically working there
  1770. 1:00:06uh earning most of the profit is it
  1771. 1:00:09because they are they're so some of them
  1772. 1:00:11they are including with each other and
  1773. 1:00:13then other followers they Benchmark
  1774. 1:00:15their price
  1775. 1:00:17um based on those like the market
  1776. 1:00:19leaders something yeah it's a good
  1777. 1:00:21question I don't have actually at the
  1778. 1:00:23last Point although it's a really
  1779. 1:00:24interesting question as to kind of how
  1780. 1:00:25the exact price setting agreements um uh
  1781. 1:00:28happen so that that I don't know
  1782. 1:00:30um in terms of kind of what's
  1783. 1:00:31maintaining it I actually think the
  1784. 1:00:32physical layout of the market becomes
  1785. 1:00:34really important here so you can imagine
  1786. 1:00:36kind of the period of benefits from
  1787. 1:00:38defection might be quite low if you're
  1788. 1:00:39kind of immediately detected
  1789. 1:00:42um and then right away sort of the
  1790. 1:00:43collusive agreement breaks down
  1791. 1:00:45um so you can imagine this an
  1792. 1:00:46environment where sort of you know
  1793. 1:00:47immediate detection basically of of kind
  1794. 1:00:49of that breakdown in the price agreement
  1795. 1:00:51could lead to kind of a real loss in
  1796. 1:00:53profits
  1797. 1:00:54um so I think that's sort of the the the
  1798. 1:00:55ability to kind of maintain I should say
  1799. 1:00:58you know I'm not I'm not convinced that
  1800. 1:00:59it's always even like an explicit
  1801. 1:01:01agreement that you saw actually a large
  1802. 1:01:03percentage of Traders do sort of
  1803. 1:01:05largemouth markets have at least one
  1804. 1:01:07Trader who's admitted there is an
  1805. 1:01:08explicit agreement
  1806. 1:01:09um but even sort of it could be
  1807. 1:01:10potentially you know tacit but they're
  1808. 1:01:12sitting there kind of watching each
  1809. 1:01:13other as well
  1810. 1:01:14yeah
  1811. 1:01:16other questions
  1812. 1:01:19are there hierarchies between the
  1813. 1:01:21Traders could there be something like
  1814. 1:01:23there's kind of the big guy who's always
  1815. 1:01:26been there who's who's goes first and
  1816. 1:01:28sets and the other ones just watch and
  1817. 1:01:30see what they do right yeah I think it's
  1818. 1:01:32kind of Science question I don't really
  1819. 1:01:33know the answer that's a great question
  1820. 1:01:34like is there kind of a a leader who
  1821. 1:01:36said in the price and others kind of
  1822. 1:01:38follow so I don't know that's a good
  1823. 1:01:39question
  1824. 1:01:40yeah
  1825. 1:01:42um that may be relevant for thinking
  1826. 1:01:43about kind of how do you if you wanted
  1827. 1:01:45to Target policy to potentially break
  1828. 1:01:47some of this down sort of who would you
  1829. 1:01:48target you know absolutely
  1830. 1:01:50okay so um in our last half an hour
  1831. 1:01:53let's turn to sort of um we talked about
  1832. 1:01:54kind of measuring competition let's turn
  1833. 1:01:56now to kind of implications of
  1834. 1:01:57competition on Market outcomes right so
  1835. 1:02:00um we'll talk first about uh impacts on
  1836. 1:02:02on firm selection sort of who survives
  1837. 1:02:05who exits when when competitions
  1838. 1:02:07increased
  1839. 1:02:08um and then I'll talk just very briefly
  1840. 1:02:10about sort of three other really nice
  1841. 1:02:12papers looking at the impacts on prices
  1842. 1:02:14quality uh and Contracting
  1843. 1:02:17okay so we'll start with this Jensen and
  1844. 1:02:19Miller piece um so the overall kind of
  1845. 1:02:21motivating question behind this paper
  1846. 1:02:22which is you know a really huge one in
  1847. 1:02:24the space is why do good firms in this
  1848. 1:02:27context why do you know why do good
  1849. 1:02:29firms whether low cost High productivity
  1850. 1:02:31high quality why do those good firms
  1851. 1:02:33fail to grow and the flip side of that
  1852. 1:02:36coin is why do these bad firms fail to
  1853. 1:02:38exit right why do they remain in the
  1854. 1:02:40market
  1855. 1:02:41so one possible explanation is basically
  1856. 1:02:44a lack of competition
  1857. 1:02:46and in this context they're going to
  1858. 1:02:47look at a lack of competition due to uh
  1859. 1:02:50Market isolation Okay or limited
  1860. 1:02:52integration so we kind of raise this
  1861. 1:02:54point before how do you define that
  1862. 1:02:56um this this paper essentially changing
  1863. 1:02:58the boundaries of the markets
  1864. 1:03:00okay so you know what are these barriers
  1865. 1:03:02to Market integration lots of barriers
  1866. 1:03:05uh that are possible High transport cost
  1867. 1:03:06tariffs Etc here this paper in
  1868. 1:03:09particular is going to focus on
  1869. 1:03:10information frictions or search costs
  1870. 1:03:12and the idea behind these information
  1871. 1:03:14frictions is that it's difficult for
  1872. 1:03:16consumers to learn about either the
  1873. 1:03:18existence of firms and different markets
  1874. 1:03:21and other markets than their own local
  1875. 1:03:23market
  1876. 1:03:24um or you might know about the existence
  1877. 1:03:25of the firms but you might not have a
  1878. 1:03:27good kind of credible signal on their
  1879. 1:03:28quality you might not know the quality
  1880. 1:03:30of those firms right so in some way you
  1881. 1:03:32have better information about kind of
  1882. 1:03:33your very local firms and you know less
  1883. 1:03:35about firms that are further away that's
  1884. 1:03:36going to limit kind of the size of the
  1885. 1:03:38market and therefore how much firms
  1886. 1:03:40across markets are competing
  1887. 1:03:42so you know as a result of these
  1888. 1:03:44information frictions consumers are
  1889. 1:03:46gonna
  1890. 1:03:47um often buy almost exclusively from
  1891. 1:03:49their local producer conversely right
  1892. 1:03:51producers are going to sell mostly local
  1893. 1:03:52consumers and that's going to have two
  1894. 1:03:54effects the first is it's going to limit
  1895. 1:03:56the consumer base that can um I'm not
  1896. 1:03:59going to inhibit good firms from growing
  1897. 1:04:01okay so the first is kind of a tax you
  1898. 1:04:03know a negative impact on good firms
  1899. 1:04:06right so they can't expand to other
  1900. 1:04:08markets that means they can't grow they
  1901. 1:04:10can't split economies at scale that's
  1902. 1:04:12going to limit kind of the the first
  1903. 1:04:13part why do good firms you know fail at
  1904. 1:04:15the growth
  1905. 1:04:16the second point is that it's gonna have
  1906. 1:04:18limited competition from across markets
  1907. 1:04:19right so the bad firms are not going to
  1908. 1:04:21be competed out of the market right
  1909. 1:04:23they're going to instead survive and
  1910. 1:04:25that might lead to kind of lower
  1911. 1:04:26aggregate productivity in the entire in
  1912. 1:04:29the entire area and also lead to kind of
  1913. 1:04:31cross cross market across firm
  1914. 1:04:33productivity dispersion
  1915. 1:04:36okay so this Jensen and Miller piece
  1916. 1:04:38basically says you know when a
  1917. 1:04:39technology comes in that facilitates
  1918. 1:04:42search right that that essentially
  1919. 1:04:44reduces some of these information
  1920. 1:04:45frictions do we see better Market
  1921. 1:04:47integration and does that increase
  1922. 1:04:49Market integration basically lead to
  1923. 1:04:51competition disciplining the market
  1924. 1:04:53right so do we see a reallocation of
  1925. 1:04:56profits and market shares towards the
  1926. 1:04:58good firms and away from the bad and
  1927. 1:05:00this is sort of you know a micro
  1928. 1:05:01empirical example of a very classic sort
  1929. 1:05:03of you know mallets model of the pro
  1930. 1:05:05competitive effects of you know trade or
  1931. 1:05:07increased Market integration
  1932. 1:05:11so this paper is going to use the same
  1933. 1:05:13shock that a previous paper robs use
  1934. 1:05:15uses which is the rollout of cell phones
  1935. 1:05:17across markets in India so let me just
  1936. 1:05:20give you two slides and kind of that
  1937. 1:05:21initial paper just so you can see kind
  1938. 1:05:22of the Baseline setup so this is looking
  1939. 1:05:25at the state of Kerala in India
  1940. 1:05:27um along the coastline and one of the
  1941. 1:05:29big Industries in this area is is
  1942. 1:05:31fishing right
  1943. 1:05:33um and so this first paper the 2007
  1944. 1:05:35paper is using the role of cell phone
  1945. 1:05:37towers along the shoreline uh in the
  1946. 1:05:41state of Kerala as a shock to base the
  1947. 1:05:43information friction so what's happening
  1948. 1:05:45that first paper is he studying
  1949. 1:05:46fishermen fishermen tend to kind of go
  1950. 1:05:49out into you know to to hunt for fish
  1951. 1:05:51that day they come back in a baseline
  1952. 1:05:53without cell phones they tend to just
  1953. 1:05:54sell to their local market now you know
  1954. 1:05:57some fishermen are kind of Lucky and
  1955. 1:05:58have good catches that day some have bad
  1956. 1:06:00and so what happens at Baseline is some
  1957. 1:06:02of these local markets have very high
  1958. 1:06:03supplies some have very low and you see
  1959. 1:06:06lots of variability in prices across
  1960. 1:06:08markets
  1961. 1:06:09once these cell phone towers are allowed
  1962. 1:06:11it becomes much easier once you're out
  1963. 1:06:12here to say well maybe I won't go to my
  1964. 1:06:14home Market that day I'll go to the next
  1965. 1:06:16one over if they've got low Supply that
  1966. 1:06:17day so the reduction of this sort of
  1967. 1:06:20information costs through cell phones
  1968. 1:06:22allows fishermen to better Arbitrage
  1969. 1:06:24they end up going to different markets
  1970. 1:06:26and you see much smoother Supply
  1971. 1:06:29as a result you see much smoother prices
  1972. 1:06:31across Market so this is like one of my
  1973. 1:06:32favorite all-time graphs of all of all
  1974. 1:06:34time we should all be so lucky to find
  1975. 1:06:36uh this sort of results but this is
  1976. 1:06:38showing you basically what happens when
  1977. 1:06:39the introduction of cell phone comes in
  1978. 1:06:41so you see really clearly right so
  1979. 1:06:43region one prior to cell phones tons of
  1980. 1:06:45price variability cell phones come in
  1981. 1:06:47boom law of One Price basically
  1982. 1:06:50same thing for region two lots of
  1983. 1:06:52variability cell phones come in boom
  1984. 1:06:54we'll have one price same thing for read
  1985. 1:06:55and free okay so just super clear in in
  1986. 1:06:57the figure is what's going on here a
  1987. 1:06:59really big change
  1988. 1:07:01um and reduction in prices version but
  1989. 1:07:03that's kind of the backdrop for this
  1990. 1:07:04paper yeah so uh that was the first
  1991. 1:07:07paper this paper is gonna it's gonna
  1992. 1:07:09turn things around a little bit and
  1993. 1:07:10think about now the fishermen as
  1994. 1:07:12consumers
  1995. 1:07:13and what are they consuming they're
  1996. 1:07:15consuming boats
  1997. 1:07:17so this paper is going to look at the
  1998. 1:07:18introduction of cell phones and say what
  1999. 1:07:20was the effect on a boat builder quality
  2000. 1:07:22and firm selection
  2001. 1:07:25so let me tell you what's happening at
  2002. 1:07:26Baseline and then we'll talk about what
  2003. 1:07:27happens when cell phones come in so at
  2004. 1:07:30Baseline these fishermen are buying
  2005. 1:07:31boats almost exclusively from their
  2006. 1:07:33local producer okay 97 are buying from
  2007. 1:07:36the the boat builder in their home
  2008. 1:07:38Village and there's roughly one book
  2009. 1:07:40Builder per Builder so along the
  2010. 1:07:41shoreline you see each Village has their
  2011. 1:07:43own build Builder and all the fishermen
  2012. 1:07:45from that Village are buying from their
  2013. 1:07:46local build Builder
  2014. 1:07:49um now some of those boat Builders are
  2015. 1:07:50really good and some are not so good and
  2016. 1:07:52so there's lots of variation and quality
  2017. 1:07:54across the boat Builders and they do a
  2018. 1:07:55really fantastic job of doing four
  2019. 1:07:57different measures of the quality et
  2020. 1:07:59cetera okay they've got independent
  2021. 1:08:00independent Auditors they've got
  2022. 1:08:02self-reported Etc
  2023. 1:08:04but no matter how you cut it lots of
  2024. 1:08:05variability and quality
  2025. 1:08:08now what happens how they're going to
  2026. 1:08:09use a slightly different uh cell phone
  2027. 1:08:11rollout so I want to just be clear about
  2028. 1:08:12about that so they're going to use these
  2029. 1:08:14again three regions
  2030. 1:08:16region one is going to get cell phones
  2031. 1:08:18in 1999. uh region two is going to get
  2032. 1:08:21it in uh 2000 okay and Region Three
  2033. 1:08:24doesn't have cell phones for the
  2034. 1:08:25entirety of their study period so Region
  2035. 1:08:27Three is like a peer control
  2036. 1:08:29okay so what do they predict is going to
  2037. 1:08:31happen right kind of all of this Mellows
  2038. 1:08:33model so the idea here the causal chain
  2039. 1:08:35and I'm telling you this now because the
  2040. 1:08:37graphs are going to really closely kind
  2041. 1:08:38of mirror each of these steps
  2042. 1:08:40in terms of the results
  2043. 1:08:42so first cell phones will cause
  2044. 1:08:44fishermen to travel to different markets
  2045. 1:08:46to sell their fish okay that was already
  2046. 1:08:47shown in the first Jensen piece but
  2047. 1:08:49we'll see it replicated here okay so
  2048. 1:08:51fishermen are going to New Markets to
  2049. 1:08:52sell their fish
  2050. 1:08:53in doing so they're interacting with
  2051. 1:08:56other fishermen right
  2052. 1:08:58um and they're chatting and they're
  2053. 1:08:59chatting about for example where did you
  2054. 1:09:01buy your boat how you know how good
  2055. 1:09:02quality is that boat builder they're
  2056. 1:09:04getting information about non-local
  2057. 1:09:06Builders so they'll learn about again
  2058. 1:09:08first the existence of non-local
  2059. 1:09:11Builders they didn't know about before
  2060. 1:09:12um but they'll also potentially form a
  2061. 1:09:14more accurate signal about the quality
  2062. 1:09:16right so there's some natural
  2063. 1:09:17variability inside the quality of the
  2064. 1:09:19boats the main measure they'll have is
  2065. 1:09:21kind of the longevity or how long the
  2066. 1:09:23boats last there's some natural
  2067. 1:09:25variability there you might need
  2068. 1:09:26multiple sort of
  2069. 1:09:28um uh people's assessments to get an
  2070. 1:09:31accurate signal of the quality okay so
  2071. 1:09:32they can Source
  2072. 1:09:34um uh multiple estimates from lots of
  2073. 1:09:36non-local fishermen and get a more
  2074. 1:09:38accurate sense of the quality of these
  2075. 1:09:40non-local builders
  2076. 1:09:42okay
  2077. 1:09:43once they kind of know who the best
  2078. 1:09:45Builders are including non-local
  2079. 1:09:46Builders fishermen will start buying
  2080. 1:09:48boats non-locally and this will lead to
  2081. 1:09:50Greater competition among the boat
  2082. 1:09:52Builders and this is kind of the
  2083. 1:09:53anticipated effect
  2084. 1:09:55as there's more competition what should
  2085. 1:09:57happen is that you should see the good
  2086. 1:09:59Builders expand okay and the bad
  2087. 1:10:01Builders contract or exit
  2088. 1:10:03and then finally you know this might
  2089. 1:10:05improve improve aggregate productivity
  2090. 1:10:06in the industry and perhaps might lead
  2091. 1:10:09to improved outcomes for consumers okay
  2092. 1:10:11so this kind of the predicted causal
  2093. 1:10:12chain let's now see sort of um uh what
  2094. 1:10:15actually happens in practice and I'm
  2095. 1:10:17going to actually just show you the
  2096. 1:10:18graphs here because I think they really
  2097. 1:10:19sort of speak for themselves
  2098. 1:10:21so how do you let me just tell you sort
  2099. 1:10:23of how you you follow these figures
  2100. 1:10:24since we're going to see a couple of
  2101. 1:10:26these so each column here is a different
  2102. 1:10:28result so this is looking at for example
  2103. 1:10:29the percent of farmers who sell fish in
  2104. 1:10:32their own village
  2105. 1:10:33this top row is showing you for region
  2106. 1:10:35one which got cell phones here this blue
  2107. 1:10:36line in 1999
  2108. 1:10:38region two got cell phones here in 2000
  2109. 1:10:40and Region Three is a pure control they
  2110. 1:10:42didn't get cell phones during this
  2111. 1:10:43entire period
  2112. 1:10:45so
  2113. 1:10:46um let me actually talk about first what
  2114. 1:10:47happens in Region Three which is based
  2115. 1:10:49on the control group right so you see
  2116. 1:10:50basically a hundred percent of fishermen
  2117. 1:10:52are buying uh or selling fish uh in
  2118. 1:10:55their own village okay
  2119. 1:10:58uh when cell phones come in what happens
  2120. 1:11:00so uh fishermen start selling fish you
  2121. 1:11:03know outside their home Village right
  2122. 1:11:05um similar in region two again kind of
  2123. 1:11:07no pre-trend but right when cell phones
  2124. 1:11:08come in they start selling fish outside
  2125. 1:11:10their own village so they are going to
  2126. 1:11:11new villages to sell their fish the idea
  2127. 1:11:13here is they then start talking to each
  2128. 1:11:15other and getting a more accurate signal
  2129. 1:11:17on the quality of the boat Builders so
  2130. 1:11:20panel B is looking at that error and
  2131. 1:11:22estimating the quality of boats in
  2132. 1:11:24particular the boat lifespan in years so
  2133. 1:11:26they had kind of these objective
  2134. 1:11:27measures of boat quality they also ask
  2135. 1:11:30fishermen to estimate and they take the
  2136. 1:11:31difference as kind of the absolute value
  2137. 1:11:33of the difference as they error
  2138. 1:11:34so again let's go to Region Three first
  2139. 1:11:36which is basically the control we see on
  2140. 1:11:39average right the estimates for the
  2141. 1:11:41non-local builders the errors are much
  2142. 1:11:43higher so people have worse information
  2143. 1:11:44about non-local Builders than they do
  2144. 1:11:47kind of their local guy and again that
  2145. 1:11:49kind of persists throughout this entire
  2146. 1:11:50time period in the control group
  2147. 1:11:52you see a similar thing in region one
  2148. 1:11:54but what happens when cell phones go in
  2149. 1:11:56well it looks like sort of slowly over
  2150. 1:11:57time
  2151. 1:11:59uh fishermen start getting better
  2152. 1:12:00information about the non-local Builder
  2153. 1:12:02and sort of by the end of the period it
  2154. 1:12:04basically converges so they're sort of
  2155. 1:12:05equally well informed the error rate is
  2156. 1:12:07the same between local you know
  2157. 1:12:09non-local and local builders you see a
  2158. 1:12:11very similar thing in region two right
  2159. 1:12:13again no no pre-trend but then as soon
  2160. 1:12:14as cell phones come in again sort of
  2161. 1:12:16this convergence of knowledge
  2162. 1:12:18okay so now fishermen are better
  2163. 1:12:19informed about the quality
  2164. 1:12:22what does that do to where they buy
  2165. 1:12:23their boats so again basically a hundred
  2166. 1:12:26percent in the control group are always
  2167. 1:12:28buying locally buying in their own
  2168. 1:12:29village what happens when cell phones
  2169. 1:12:32come in this drops and drops pretty
  2170. 1:12:33rapidly right so you go for basically
  2171. 1:12:35100 buying in their local Village to you
  2172. 1:12:37know about 20 to 30 percent
  2173. 1:12:40same thing here for the instruction of
  2174. 1:12:42cell phones in region two so this is
  2175. 1:12:44kind of the first part of the causal
  2176. 1:12:45chain you're seeing basically getting
  2177. 1:12:46better information and buying
  2178. 1:12:47non-locally
  2179. 1:12:50now what happens to firm's election
  2180. 1:12:52so here we're looking at the total
  2181. 1:12:54number of firms so a reduction in the
  2182. 1:12:56number of firms implies firm exit
  2183. 1:12:58and you see you know in region two
  2184. 1:13:01there's basically a pretty steady number
  2185. 1:13:02of firms up until mobile phones are
  2186. 1:13:04introduced and then you see a pretty
  2187. 1:13:06rapid decline in the number of firms
  2188. 1:13:08so you know this is like almost a 60
  2189. 1:13:10decline
  2190. 1:13:12same thing for region region two
  2191. 1:13:14basically sort of a steady number firms
  2192. 1:13:16up until cell phones are introduced and
  2193. 1:13:17then a lot of firms exit when cell
  2194. 1:13:19phones come in and no change in Region
  2195. 1:13:21Three
  2196. 1:13:23now the the particular prediction is
  2197. 1:13:26that this is going to basically lead to
  2198. 1:13:27Greater exits among the low quality
  2199. 1:13:30firms right as they get competed out by
  2200. 1:13:32the high quality so they can break this
  2201. 1:13:34up into above below median quality as
  2202. 1:13:37measured by these Baseline
  2203. 1:13:39um uh lifespan of the years of the boat
  2204. 1:13:41and what you see is there's some
  2205. 1:13:43declines among both but they're really
  2206. 1:13:44concentrated in the below median quality
  2207. 1:13:47firms okay so it's really kind of these
  2208. 1:13:49below median quality and quality firms
  2209. 1:13:50who are seeing the greatest exit
  2210. 1:13:53that's when the first step of the causal
  2211. 1:13:54chain you introduce cell phones
  2212. 1:13:55fishermen start talking they get better
  2213. 1:13:58information they start buying
  2214. 1:13:59non-locally and as they do this is going
  2215. 1:14:01to lead to the exit especially by the
  2216. 1:14:03lower quality firms
  2217. 1:14:06they also ask do we see any aggregate
  2218. 1:14:09productivity gains right as a result of
  2219. 1:14:11this reallocation so they're going to
  2220. 1:14:12here look at aggregate production this
  2221. 1:14:14is production by all firms aggregated at
  2222. 1:14:16the regional level
  2223. 1:14:17the look first is here there are changes
  2224. 1:14:19in the number of boats sold they don't
  2225. 1:14:20find any differences there so overall
  2226. 1:14:22quantity of both sold isn't changing
  2227. 1:14:25um but the lifespan of these boats is
  2228. 1:14:27changing okay so if you look at Baseline
  2229. 1:14:29versus n-line and region one you see
  2230. 1:14:31contents rightward shifts or all along
  2231. 1:14:33the distribution improvements in
  2232. 1:14:35um uh in in the years of the boat same
  2233. 1:14:38for region two these big increases not
  2234. 1:14:40much of a difference in region in Region
  2235. 1:14:42Three where there's no cell phones
  2236. 1:14:45uh they do a bunch of other pretty
  2237. 1:14:47clever things to kind of uh isolate the
  2238. 1:14:49exact called the mechanism what's going
  2239. 1:14:51on here that I really like and I'll just
  2240. 1:14:52mention them briefly so you know you
  2241. 1:14:54could ask is this increase in average
  2242. 1:14:56quality is that coming from a
  2243. 1:14:57reallocation of uh to firms of higher
  2244. 1:15:00Baseline quality and sort of the story
  2245. 1:15:01I've been telling so far you can also
  2246. 1:15:03Imagine That firms internally are
  2247. 1:15:05upgrading their quality and response to
  2248. 1:15:07competition
  2249. 1:15:08um they estimate this super simply by
  2250. 1:15:10basically throwing firm fixed effects
  2251. 1:15:11into the regression and that kind of
  2252. 1:15:13isolates the part that's within firm
  2253. 1:15:15quality upgrading in response to cell
  2254. 1:15:17phones and they find basically nothing
  2255. 1:15:18there so their takeaway here is this is
  2256. 1:15:20mostly happening from reallocation to
  2257. 1:15:22kind of Baseline higher quality firms
  2258. 1:15:24rather than firms kind of upgrading
  2259. 1:15:26their quality within their their firm
  2260. 1:15:30they also find a reduction in in cost
  2261. 1:15:32okay especially uh labor costs in
  2262. 1:15:34particular
  2263. 1:15:36um and they can ask a similar question
  2264. 1:15:37is this due to a reallocation to firms
  2265. 1:15:39with lower cost at Baseline or due to
  2266. 1:15:41kind of reductions in costs within firms
  2267. 1:15:43again they use those firm fixed effects
  2268. 1:15:45and here they see kind of 50 50. so this
  2269. 1:15:48is partially reallocation to lower cost
  2270. 1:15:50firms so more productive firms at
  2271. 1:15:51Baseline it's also due to a reduction in
  2272. 1:15:54cost and firms and this reduction cost
  2273. 1:15:56is coming from a pretty interesting
  2274. 1:15:57place they find basically evidence of
  2275. 1:15:59economies of scale so basically as these
  2276. 1:16:02firms are getting existing firms are
  2277. 1:16:04getting larger right the ones who stay
  2278. 1:16:05in business are getting larger they're
  2279. 1:16:07able to have workers specialize so
  2280. 1:16:10rather than having a single employee do
  2281. 1:16:12all the parts of the boat building they
  2282. 1:16:14can have two employees one who does the
  2283. 1:16:16first part one knows the second and they
  2284. 1:16:17specialize so they see a fallen task for
  2285. 1:16:19workers
  2286. 1:16:20um and that suggests there's some
  2287. 1:16:21economies of scale here
  2288. 1:16:25the final thing is looking at consumers
  2289. 1:16:27so what happens to sort of prices and
  2290. 1:16:28quality over on the market they do see a
  2291. 1:16:31slight increase in the price of votes
  2292. 1:16:33about a four percent increase but they
  2293. 1:16:35see a much bigger increase in the
  2294. 1:16:37average quality in terms of the boat
  2295. 1:16:39lifespan okay so they can basically do
  2296. 1:16:41sort of um uh a price adjusted by the
  2297. 1:16:45quality so a price per boat year of Life
  2298. 1:16:47uh and this Falls quite a bit now they
  2299. 1:16:50know this is sort of the short-term
  2300. 1:16:51results but it does look like sort of
  2301. 1:16:53overall consumers are getting sort of
  2302. 1:16:54higher quality at you know um at lower
  2303. 1:16:57prices per per kind of year of the boat
  2304. 1:17:01okay so this is sort of I mean this is a
  2305. 1:17:03really I think nice paper because it's
  2306. 1:17:04super reduced form but it's basically
  2307. 1:17:05kind of showing you all those causal
  2308. 1:17:07steps of you see a reduction some of
  2309. 1:17:09these frictions that might be inhibiting
  2310. 1:17:11competition right meaning you're kind of
  2311. 1:17:12in these very sort of individual
  2312. 1:17:14fiefdoms of these markets you reduce
  2313. 1:17:16these frictions you increase competition
  2314. 1:17:18across markets between these farms and
  2315. 1:17:20you see kind of the classic Force you'd
  2316. 1:17:22expect you see basically the bad firms
  2317. 1:17:24are exiting the good firms are growing
  2318. 1:17:26and they're able to specialize and take
  2319. 1:17:28advantage of economies of scale
  2320. 1:17:30let me pause you before going to the the
  2321. 1:17:32next set of papers are there questions
  2322. 1:17:34on this paper
  2323. 1:17:41hmm
  2324. 1:17:43okay so we only got another oh please
  2325. 1:17:45yeah I mean sorry I there is a question
  2326. 1:17:48from the Q a that I think relates to
  2327. 1:17:51several of the papers you're talking
  2328. 1:17:52about so it's from
  2329. 1:17:55um mes uh how do you see the role of
  2330. 1:17:58intermediaries in competition and how
  2331. 1:18:00may it alter the implications of
  2332. 1:18:01competition that you're talking about I
  2333. 1:18:03guess in general so far
  2334. 1:18:06yeah so um I should say that in the
  2335. 1:18:09Jensen piece they go through a lot of
  2336. 1:18:11work to kind of describe how like there
  2337. 1:18:12aren't intermediaries in their context
  2338. 1:18:15um
  2339. 1:18:16I mean I guess I think of
  2340. 1:18:18um you know the kind of link between
  2341. 1:18:19these two papers intermediate areas is
  2342. 1:18:21you know if if there were intermediaries
  2343. 1:18:23between these markets
  2344. 1:18:25um you might imagine that you know one
  2345. 1:18:26of the frictions that that Jensen is
  2346. 1:18:28thinking about reducing is search cost
  2347. 1:18:30but you can imagine another friction is
  2348. 1:18:31you know in a more General sense not in
  2349. 1:18:33this particular context but could be
  2350. 1:18:34intermediary markups
  2351. 1:18:37um and so if you're able to reduce
  2352. 1:18:38intermediary markups right that is
  2353. 1:18:40another way of basically integrating the
  2354. 1:18:42markets more directly so it'd be
  2355. 1:18:44interesting to see you know again I
  2356. 1:18:46don't think that's the the equivalent
  2357. 1:18:48producers in the intermediary you know
  2358. 1:18:50uh equivalent of the Kenya the Kenya
  2359. 1:18:53agricultural stuff is Farmers and I
  2360. 1:18:54don't I suspect Farmers don't have a lot
  2361. 1:18:56of Market power but imagine you had
  2362. 1:18:58intermediaries in a market where the
  2363. 1:19:00original producers had Market power you
  2364. 1:19:02might find if they're a way to kind of
  2365. 1:19:03reduce markups among intermediaries that
  2366. 1:19:05would be like better kind of integrating
  2367. 1:19:07these markets you might also find kind
  2368. 1:19:09of Upstream effects of increased
  2369. 1:19:10competition among uh you know among the
  2370. 1:19:13Upstream firms so I think neither one of
  2371. 1:19:15these examples is kind of perfect sector
  2372. 1:19:16for that but I think you can imagine
  2373. 1:19:18other ones where there are kind of these
  2374. 1:19:19like Upstream uh impacts of reducing
  2375. 1:19:22intermediary markups
  2376. 1:19:27was there another question
  2377. 1:19:35okay so let me just very quickly go
  2378. 1:19:37through I'm just going to give you one
  2379. 1:19:38slide in each of these last three papers
  2380. 1:19:39I just think they're really nice
  2381. 1:19:40examples of
  2382. 1:19:42um you know experimental or
  2383. 1:19:43quasi-experimental results looking at
  2384. 1:19:45the impact of competition empirically uh
  2385. 1:19:48in in low and middle income country
  2386. 1:19:50contexts so um this first paper is a
  2387. 1:19:53paper by Busan galliana and they're
  2388. 1:19:55basically randomizing entry into
  2389. 1:19:58um uh the grocery store Market in the
  2390. 1:20:00Dominican Republic one thing that I
  2391. 1:20:01think is particularly clever here is you
  2392. 1:20:03might think how do you run an RCT where
  2393. 1:20:05you randomize Grocery Stores
  2394. 1:20:07um you know both how do you convince
  2395. 1:20:09grocery stores to enter how do you
  2396. 1:20:10literally physically build grocery
  2397. 1:20:11stores well they're not um they're doing
  2398. 1:20:14something very clever here which is they
  2399. 1:20:15basically have uh um sort of these
  2400. 1:20:18administrative rules around a
  2401. 1:20:20conditional cash transfer program so let
  2402. 1:20:22me try to tell you the back story so
  2403. 1:20:23this is a conditional cash transfer
  2404. 1:20:25program in the Dominican Republic It's
  2405. 1:20:27providing transfers to poor households
  2406. 1:20:29the critical feature for their paper is
  2407. 1:20:32that these households are getting their
  2408. 1:20:33cash transfer on a debit card can only
  2409. 1:20:35be used at Affiliated grocery stores and
  2410. 1:20:38so when they say they're randomizing
  2411. 1:20:39entry what they're really doing is
  2412. 1:20:40randomizing
  2413. 1:20:42um entry of existing incumbent grocery
  2414. 1:20:44stores into this program this Affiliated
  2415. 1:20:46program so it's a really clever way I
  2416. 1:20:48think of getting kind of randomized
  2417. 1:20:50variation that otherwise might be quite
  2418. 1:20:51difficult to get
  2419. 1:20:53um so they induce the entry of of you
  2420. 1:20:55know 61 small retail shops into 72
  2421. 1:20:57different markets they um are even able
  2422. 1:21:00to get variation in sort of the the
  2423. 1:21:01number of new stores here on the
  2424. 1:21:03Intensive margin
  2425. 1:21:04uh and that you know overall find kind
  2426. 1:21:07of a reduction in prices two to six
  2427. 1:21:09percent as you expect more in areas more
  2428. 1:21:11entrants
  2429. 1:21:12um and they see some improvements in
  2430. 1:21:14self-reported service quality level okay
  2431. 1:21:16so I just mentioned to say you know
  2432. 1:21:17there's lots of ways to try to if you
  2433. 1:21:18want to think about experimental
  2434. 1:21:19approaches to get randomized entry that
  2435. 1:21:21don't literally have to be kind of you
  2436. 1:21:23know building building new stores and I
  2437. 1:21:24thought this was pretty clever
  2438. 1:21:27um uh I want to talk quickly about sort
  2439. 1:21:30of uh this is going to be sort of
  2440. 1:21:31impacts on on quality
  2441. 1:21:32um so this uh Berkeley night kiss at all
  2442. 1:21:35paper is looking at um entry into uh the
  2443. 1:21:38pharmacy industry in Uganda
  2444. 1:21:40so the back story for this paper is
  2445. 1:21:42there's
  2446. 1:21:43um you know counterfeit medications
  2447. 1:21:45actually a really big problem so these
  2448. 1:21:46are don't think here of kind of you know
  2449. 1:21:48the CVS uh or Walgreens that are you
  2450. 1:21:50know regulated by say you know
  2451. 1:21:52everything's regulated by the FDA this
  2452. 1:21:54is a situation where pharmacies in
  2453. 1:21:55Uganda are these very kind of small
  2454. 1:21:57mom-and-pop shops that are sort of
  2455. 1:21:58unregulated
  2456. 1:22:00um and and counterfeit medication is
  2457. 1:22:02really a big problem okay so in
  2458. 1:22:04particular they're looking
  2459. 1:22:05anti-malarials that are medications to
  2460. 1:22:07treat malaria
  2461. 1:22:09and so what they're showing this paper
  2462. 1:22:10is um entry can matter and in particular
  2463. 1:22:13the identity of the entrance whether
  2464. 1:22:15they're high quality or not can really
  2465. 1:22:16matter so they randomly assign the entry
  2466. 1:22:19of sort of a high quality provider of
  2467. 1:22:22anti-malarial drugs okay in this case
  2468. 1:22:23they're working with an NGO
  2469. 1:22:26um that is a retailer providing
  2470. 1:22:28basically authentic drugs that are
  2471. 1:22:30priced at below market prices
  2472. 1:22:32and so what they find is that first
  2473. 1:22:34incumbent prices drop by quite a bit uh
  2474. 1:22:37when the entrant comes in okay this is
  2475. 1:22:38suggested that that at least some of the
  2476. 1:22:40incumbents were initially pricing you
  2477. 1:22:42know above cost
  2478. 1:22:43um and sort of I think most
  2479. 1:22:44interestingly find based on the share of
  2480. 1:22:46incumbent firms that are selling fake
  2481. 1:22:48drugs drops by 50 okay so bringing in
  2482. 1:22:50sort of a high quality firm
  2483. 1:22:53um can mean that other firms are going
  2484. 1:22:54to start to match and compete in quality
  2485. 1:22:56this also suggests by the way that part
  2486. 1:22:59of the issue you might have assumed okay
  2487. 1:23:00there's lots of there's lots of
  2488. 1:23:02counterfeit medication but maybe these
  2489. 1:23:03small mom and pop stores don't know or
  2490. 1:23:05have no control over their quality and
  2491. 1:23:08this is a problem coming Upstream this
  2492. 1:23:09is suggested at least part of the
  2493. 1:23:10problem can be ameliorated by the
  2494. 1:23:12downstream uh you know retailer Behavior
  2495. 1:23:16and they find sort of these welfare
  2496. 1:23:17effects you spoke to expect to see which
  2497. 1:23:19is the overall use of anti-malarial
  2498. 1:23:21drugs increased right people kind of
  2499. 1:23:22learned that the quality is better
  2500. 1:23:25okay so who the entrance is can really
  2501. 1:23:27can really matter
  2502. 1:23:28the final thing I'll mention is a
  2503. 1:23:30Contracting piece which I think Rocco
  2504. 1:23:31already covered so I won't you know
  2505. 1:23:33cover in great detail but I just want to
  2506. 1:23:34mention it because I just want to say
  2507. 1:23:36that you know competition is not always
  2508. 1:23:37a good thing
  2509. 1:23:38um there can be much more nuanced
  2510. 1:23:40effects depending on the broader context
  2511. 1:23:42in which it's operating right so the the
  2512. 1:23:44overall punch line of this paper is sort
  2513. 1:23:46of you know in a second best world
  2514. 1:23:47competition might not always be good for
  2515. 1:23:50consumers um or in their case they're
  2516. 1:23:51looking at monopsony power so it might
  2517. 1:23:53not always be good for producers let me
  2518. 1:23:56just give you the quick summary here you
  2519. 1:23:57know this is an environment they're
  2520. 1:23:59looking at Coffee farmers who sell to
  2521. 1:24:02these Mills
  2522. 1:24:03um in Rwanda and there's lots of
  2523. 1:24:05relational Contracting going on here so
  2524. 1:24:07there's actually it's actually a pretty
  2525. 1:24:08complicated contract but the most basic
  2526. 1:24:10part is that before Harvest these
  2527. 1:24:12farmers are super poor and credit
  2528. 1:24:14constrained Mills are providing inputs
  2529. 1:24:17extension services which means basically
  2530. 1:24:18just training and cash loans
  2531. 1:24:21and the expectation the kind of
  2532. 1:24:22relational part is they're going to
  2533. 1:24:23provide that before the Harvest and then
  2534. 1:24:26post Harvest farmers are going to sell
  2535. 1:24:27back to the mill okay and that's how the
  2536. 1:24:29mill is going to recoup their costs and
  2537. 1:24:30also basically capture some local Supply
  2538. 1:24:34um now greater competition among Mills
  2539. 1:24:36that there's multiple Mills that farmers
  2540. 1:24:38can sell to that's going to increase the
  2541. 1:24:40urge to or the temptation to side fill
  2542. 1:24:42that's kind of the the AG from it's
  2543. 1:24:44specific to this but it's basically
  2544. 1:24:45renegging on the contract right so
  2545. 1:24:46they're going to have better outside
  2546. 1:24:47options
  2547. 1:24:49um it's more easy after after the
  2548. 1:24:51Harvest to sell to another another firm
  2549. 1:24:53that's going to make the Mills less
  2550. 1:24:55willing to give inputs up front it's
  2551. 1:24:57going to make this relational contract
  2552. 1:24:58harder to sustain
  2553. 1:25:00so another very clever way to get
  2554. 1:25:02exogenous variation in competition
  2555. 1:25:05um so they don't have randomized
  2556. 1:25:06variation but they're going to use an IV
  2557. 1:25:08approach they they sort of luck into
  2558. 1:25:10finding this um old engineering model of
  2559. 1:25:13kind of what areas were suitable for
  2560. 1:25:15Mills that wasn't actually followed in
  2561. 1:25:17practice
  2562. 1:25:18um but I can tell them kind of How
  2563. 1:25:19likely it would be to kind of place a
  2564. 1:25:21mill in this area whether it's kind of
  2565. 1:25:22appropriate given kind of the number of
  2566. 1:25:25trees and and Road access and all that
  2567. 1:25:27now of course the suitability is going
  2568. 1:25:29to affect kind of local Supply so
  2569. 1:25:31they're in a condition on that on sort
  2570. 1:25:33of your own suitability for your own
  2571. 1:25:35placement and then kind of in a donut IV
  2572. 1:25:37they're going to look at kind of a
  2573. 1:25:39radius around the mill and say you know
  2574. 1:25:41were you surrounded by more suitable
  2575. 1:25:43areas with the idea you're controlling
  2576. 1:25:45for all the factors that might affect
  2577. 1:25:46your local Supply
  2578. 1:25:48um but you're going to get exogenous
  2579. 1:25:49variation kind of how exposed you are to
  2580. 1:25:51other Hills
  2581. 1:25:52and so what I find they find Mills
  2582. 1:25:54facing more competition you know first
  2583. 1:25:55they have worse performance
  2584. 1:25:57um some of these things like higher unit
  2585. 1:25:59costs and lower volumes could just be
  2586. 1:26:01scale effects right so as firms face
  2587. 1:26:03more competition they have lower
  2588. 1:26:05variable product uh profits if there are
  2589. 1:26:07some sort of scale effects that might
  2590. 1:26:09have higher unit costs
  2591. 1:26:12you know what can't be explained by just
  2592. 1:26:14a scale effects that's pretty critical
  2593. 1:26:15is they find lower aggregate quantity
  2594. 1:26:17supply to the Mills so all Mills
  2595. 1:26:19basically in the area when there's more
  2596. 1:26:21when there are more of them
  2597. 1:26:24um they also kind of critically find you
  2598. 1:26:26know fewer relational contracts right so
  2599. 1:26:27those do seem to break down
  2600. 1:26:29um and farmers can be worse off as well
  2601. 1:26:31okay so they're seeing basically sort of
  2602. 1:26:32they're selling less the Mills and
  2603. 1:26:34they're seeing lower overall revenues so
  2604. 1:26:36just say the effects of you know of
  2605. 1:26:38competition can be quite quite nuanced
  2606. 1:26:41let me conclude by just talking very
  2607. 1:26:43brief about kind of opportunities for
  2608. 1:26:44future research so first specifically on
  2609. 1:26:46this question on competition uh in in
  2610. 1:26:49the low and middle income country
  2611. 1:26:50context so we've talked about lots of
  2612. 1:26:52those challenges right so there's
  2613. 1:26:53limited record keeping especially for
  2614. 1:26:54these smaller firms
  2615. 1:26:56um kind of the the the joint nature of
  2616. 1:26:59kind of household-run Enterprises uh
  2617. 1:27:01make it very difficult to separate
  2618. 1:27:03supply and demand shocks in a lot of
  2619. 1:27:04contexts there's also you know kind of
  2620. 1:27:07this history I think of distinct
  2621. 1:27:09methodological approaches from the
  2622. 1:27:10development literature and from say i o
  2623. 1:27:12for example
  2624. 1:27:14um but that also means there's a lot of
  2625. 1:27:15opportunities okay so I should say just
  2626. 1:27:17this distinct methodology your ears
  2627. 1:27:19should kind of perk up if you're a PhD
  2628. 1:27:20student you know I think this is an area
  2629. 1:27:22where I think lots more work can be done
  2630. 1:27:25and I think in particular I think
  2631. 1:27:26especially in development there's lots
  2632. 1:27:28of unique opportunities okay so first of
  2633. 1:27:30all we saw an example uh in that paper I
  2634. 1:27:31have Michael you know you could
  2635. 1:27:32experimentally estimate a lot of these
  2636. 1:27:34key features from the standard i o
  2637. 1:27:36approaches right so for example
  2638. 1:27:37experimentally estimating demand that's
  2639. 1:27:39going to allow you to you know first of
  2640. 1:27:41all overcome this issue around kind of
  2641. 1:27:43getting separate separating supply and
  2642. 1:27:44demand chunks but even relative um which
  2643. 1:27:47I think is critical in the developing
  2644. 1:27:48context but even relative to kind of the
  2645. 1:27:50general i o literature
  2646. 1:27:52um you know you're going to get around a
  2647. 1:27:53lot of those typical I think fairly
  2648. 1:27:55strong and then identification
  2649. 1:27:56assumptions um so there's lots of
  2650. 1:27:58opportunity here for kind of
  2651. 1:27:59experimental work in this space
  2652. 1:28:01and then my kind of final broader pitch
  2653. 1:28:03I want to make is that you know you can
  2654. 1:28:05I think partially because many of these
  2655. 1:28:08markets are so isolated and small
  2656. 1:28:10um and certainly in the hall but in many
  2657. 1:28:12kind of developing country context it
  2658. 1:28:14means that if you want to do
  2659. 1:28:15experimental work
  2660. 1:28:17um you can actually get exogenous
  2661. 1:28:18sometimes even randomized variation at a
  2662. 1:28:21market level
  2663. 1:28:22um in ways that I think are can be more
  2664. 1:28:24difficult in uh wealthier and often more
  2665. 1:28:26integrated markets right so you can get
  2666. 1:28:28variation and entry and competition at a
  2667. 1:28:30market level and that can be really
  2668. 1:28:31useful
  2669. 1:28:32um and so I want to just conclude by
  2670. 1:28:34kind of that broader pitch of like
  2671. 1:28:35Market level experimentation and I'm
  2672. 1:28:37going to talk about rcts but I think you
  2673. 1:28:39can also Imagine quasi-experiments as
  2674. 1:28:41well
  2675. 1:28:42um this Market level experimentation is
  2676. 1:28:44useful not just for measuring effects on
  2677. 1:28:46competition but really any outcome
  2678. 1:28:48that's going to have a market level
  2679. 1:28:49effect so trade cost migration
  2680. 1:28:52um you know relevant to this course is
  2681. 1:28:54really any intervention I think that
  2682. 1:28:55you've talked about from the policy
  2683. 1:28:56perspective trying to alleviate you know
  2684. 1:28:59uh late Market constraints Capital
  2685. 1:29:01markets drains you know all those all
  2686. 1:29:04those interventions their impact is
  2687. 1:29:05going to depend
  2688. 1:29:07um on how firms in the market are are
  2689. 1:29:10interacting right so even the place for
  2690. 1:29:12example the classic case of microfinance
  2691. 1:29:14you might see if you give a loan to a
  2692. 1:29:16firm that they expand their revenues but
  2693. 1:29:17is that is that sort of truly new
  2694. 1:29:19productivity and production or is it
  2695. 1:29:21business stealing from from other firms
  2696. 1:29:23that's a really kind of classic question
  2697. 1:29:24and so you know I want to just emphasize
  2698. 1:29:27there's sort of been this recent push to
  2699. 1:29:28do kind of this Market level
  2700. 1:29:29experimentation again I'm talking mainly
  2701. 1:29:31about experiments but you can imagine
  2702. 1:29:33um uh thinking about natural experiments
  2703. 1:29:35as well just to highlight a few you know
  2704. 1:29:37randomized saturation migration
  2705. 1:29:39incentives uh I've got some work random
  2706. 1:29:41randomizing uh a reduction search cost I
  2707. 1:29:44mentioned before kind of this this micro
  2708. 1:29:46credit thing there's this really nice
  2709. 1:29:47paper by Jing Kai and Adam Seidel
  2710. 1:29:49basically randomizing the saturation of
  2711. 1:29:51loans across firms and they do actually
  2712. 1:29:53find a good deal of kind of this this
  2713. 1:29:55business stealing happening
  2714. 1:29:57um randomized saturation on cash
  2715. 1:29:59transfer business training Etc so this
  2716. 1:30:01is kind of if you note the dates and all
  2717. 1:30:03these papers they're all pretty recent
  2718. 1:30:04papers
  2719. 1:30:05um I think this is a really exciting but
  2720. 1:30:07new place that the literature is going
  2721. 1:30:09um and so I would love to see your paper
  2722. 1:30:10here next so um I got one more minute
  2723. 1:30:13let me answer uh ask a question by
  2724. 1:30:15Timothy
  2725. 1:30:17Laura I'm just interested in your
  2726. 1:30:18perspective on the most interesting
  2727. 1:30:20thing to learn next whether why more
  2728. 1:30:23firms don't enter or why more firms
  2729. 1:30:25don't leave
  2730. 1:30:29you know I don't know whether I'd say
  2731. 1:30:31one is more interesting than other I do
  2732. 1:30:32feel like we've focused a lot on the
  2733. 1:30:34first question about why more firms
  2734. 1:30:36don't enter
  2735. 1:30:37um and not much about why firms don't
  2736. 1:30:38leave
  2737. 1:30:39um
  2738. 1:30:40and that's also true I think from kind
  2739. 1:30:42of the the micro friction I think a lot
  2740. 1:30:44of that comes from that statement is
  2741. 1:30:46really specific to the development
  2742. 1:30:47literature and a lot of the development
  2743. 1:30:49literature has been very focused on I
  2744. 1:30:50think questions that feel more easy to
  2745. 1:30:52tackle like you know questions where you
  2746. 1:30:55can randomize loans to individual firms
  2747. 1:30:57to see if that helps them to to enter
  2748. 1:30:59for example
  2749. 1:31:00um or potential potential firms
  2750. 1:31:02um I think now more and more with kind
  2751. 1:31:05of this Market level experimentation we
  2752. 1:31:07can we can try to get variation of
  2753. 1:31:09forces that might also discipline the
  2754. 1:31:11market
  2755. 1:31:12um and lead to kind of proper reading I
  2756. 1:31:13should say there's a whole trade
  2757. 1:31:14literature you know looking at this
  2758. 1:31:15question that's done it kind of uh from
  2759. 1:31:17a trade perspective and looking at kind
  2760. 1:31:19of Market level outcomes but I think on
  2761. 1:31:21kind of the micro frictions we've
  2762. 1:31:23focus a lot on the question of entry and
  2763. 1:31:25I think that's really been uh driven a
  2764. 1:31:27lot by kind of what we can get a handle
  2765. 1:31:28on methodologically and as these sort of
  2766. 1:31:30new approaches kind of open up I think
  2767. 1:31:32we'll be able to say much more about the
  2768. 1:31:33latter
  2769. 1:31:36thanks
  2770. 1:31:38um I should probably stop here I know
  2771. 1:31:39we're out of time I was I was requested
  2772. 1:31:41to give you one more reminder
  2773. 1:31:43um that the last lecture is uh is
  2774. 1:31:45tomorrow and it is
  2775. 1:31:47day you'll have to remind me the lecture
  2776. 1:31:49for tomorrow is uh wrecking you Hass is
  2777. 1:31:51going to be talking about industrial
  2778. 1:31:53policy a nice round out to the whole
  2779. 1:31:55course
  2780. 1:31:57um thank you so much Lauren that was
  2781. 1:31:58fantastic and we're so excited uh so
  2782. 1:32:01many of you could join us and we're
  2783. 1:32:03excited to uh finish the course tomorrow
  2784. 1:32:05uh with another Blockbuster lecture so
  2785. 1:32:07thanks again and see you all tomorrow
  2786. 1:32:09thanks everyone
  2787. 1:32:12thanks Lauren

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