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Lecture 02: Financial Asset at Fair Value through Profit or Loss (FVPL). [Intermediate Accounting] — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Okay na So ituloy na natin ang ating discussion sa investment accounting And
  2. 0:04today ang pag-uusapan natin ay patungkol sa financial asset at fair value through
  3. 0:10profit or loss Actually napag-usapan na sa nakaraang video discussion kung ano
  4. 0:15ang ibig sabihin ng financial asset Kung gusto mong balikan nasa description ng
  5. 0:20lecture na ito ang link ng sinasabi naming discussion sapagkat today
  6. 0:26itutuloy lang natin yung mga terminology na mapapansin doun sa mismong pangalan
  7. 0:31ng investment Ang ibig kong sabihin ' ba ang sabi sa discussion natin today
  8. 0:37financial asset at fair value through profit or loss Magfo-focus tayo sa kung
  9. 0:43ano ang ibig sabihin nito na basically yung pangalan ng investment ay isinod sa
  10. 0:48kanyang measurement in a sense na ba you remember financial asset is measured
  11. 0:54initially at fair value and subsequently there are options na basically isa it
  12. 1:02okay you measure that also at fair value pero yyung changes mula nung inacquire
  13. 1:08mo initially hanggang lumipas yung panahon ay inire-report mo or through
  14. 1:13profit or loss whether that change is temporary or permanent so ang ibig kong
  15. 1:19sabihin Again sa measurement isinod yung pangalan nung investment Pero mamaya
  16. 1:24natin to mas liliwanagin Mag-focus lang muna tayo sa kung ano ang ibig sabihin
  17. 1:29ng salitang fair value Okay In this context ang sabi "Fair value is the
  18. 1:35price that would be received to sell an asset in an orderly transaction between
  19. 1:41market participants at the measurement date." Sa madaling salita there are two
  20. 1:46parties involved and they are selling an asset Kasi nga acet tayo financial asset
  21. 1:51na kung saan yung dalawang party na yon is both independent willing and
  22. 1:56knowledgeable in the transaction Sa madaling salita walang pinilit walang
  23. 2:02kinumpel na matuloy yung transaction in a particular price At yung presyo na nga
  24. 2:07na yon yun yung tinatawag na fair value Okay Kumbaga yung yung tamang tamang
  25. 2:13presyo Okay Walang naagrabyado Okay Na basically in this topic there are best
  26. 2:19evidence of fair value kumbaga paano mo daw bang masasabi na ito yung mas
  27. 2:24magandang fair value talaga niya siya yung ebidensya na ito yung fair value na
  28. 2:28nga okay there are three okay in descending hierarchy una ang sabi dito
  29. 2:34quoted price of identical asset in active market pa natin mas liwanagin
  30. 2:40dito muna tayo sa glearing terminology na quoted price narinig niyo na ba 'yung
  31. 2:46salitang quotation hindi po 'yung sinasabi nating quotation na nilalagay
  32. 2:50sa hulihan ng mga quizes na ini-inspire ka okay Or yung sinabi ng isang great
  33. 2:55philosopher one day 'di ba Parang ganon Hindi po 'yun Okay Hindi yung word of
  34. 2:59wisdom But rather when we say quotation in business it means setting a price
  35. 3:05Okay Kaya pagka minsan let's say nagpapagawa ka ng bahay pwede mo bang
  36. 3:10i-coot kung magkano Or let's say nag merong project meron kang papagawa sa
  37. 3:14kanila Bigyan mo nga ako ng quotation So anong ibig sabihin non Bigyan mo nga ako
  38. 3:19ng presyo Okay Yun yung word na quotation in business Parang nagco-cote
  39. 3:24ka Anong quote mo ' Ba ibig sabihin magkano yung presyo mo Hindi yung tipong
  40. 3:28what's your ano ah parang inspiration in life Hindi po yun yung ibig sabihin ng
  41. 3:32cotation Okay So much for that So balikan po natin ano Okay Coded price is
  42. 3:37the price given 'Di ba 'yung inioo-over Parang yung binebenta something like
  43. 3:41that So again quoted price of identical asset in active market Dito muna tayo sa
  44. 3:48ibig sabihin naman ng active market Okay Active market is is a situation or
  45. 3:54pupwedeng lugar kung saan there is always willing buyer and willing seller
  46. 3:59in any given point in time Kumbaga palaging merong transaction na
  47. 4:04nangyayari Kaya nga ang sabi ay active Example palengke ' ba Pumunta ka doon
  48. 4:09bumili ka ng galunggong ng isda ng bigas ' ba palaging merong presyo doon Okay
  49. 4:14merong laging nagbebenta at palaging merong bumibili because the market is
  50. 4:19active Okay Kung ilalagay natin sa mga securities sa mga shares sa mga debts ba
  51. 4:25equity and debt securities let's say may stock market ' ba bond sa market So
  52. 4:30therefore if there is an active market okay parang basihan siya ng market value
  53. 4:35Katulad nga halimbawa n pupunta ka sa palengke bibili ka ng galunggong let's
  54. 4:39say nilagay nila Php80 per kilo What can we say That is the fair value kasi there
  55. 4:43is an active market okay and there is a quoted price Okay na basically ang
  56. 4:49ka-priority quoted price of identical asset in active market At itong
  57. 4:54pangalawa naman in descending hierarchy nga ang sabi naman quoted price of a
  58. 4:59similar asset in an active market So basically parehas silang active market
  59. 5:04at merong voted price Ang pagkakaiba lang yung top priority is identical yung
  60. 5:09pangalawa ay similar Okay Hindi ba Mukhang magkatulad sila identical nga eh
  61. 5:14'di ba Singular din yun Okay basically yes Okay May kaunti lang silang
  62. 5:18pagkakaiba So halimbawa bumibili ka ng bigas 'di ba Alam naman natin ang mga
  63. 5:22bigas ay mayro'ong variety Let's say kunyari dinurado Okay Kung dinurado
  64. 5:28'yung binibili mo dinurado rin 'yung kinukumparahan Okay Same din yung grade
  65. 5:32So what can we say They are identical Magkaiba lang yung tindahan halimbawa
  66. 5:37pero the asset okay The bigas is identical Parehas silang dinurado Okay
  67. 5:43What is this What does it mean by similar O bigas din pero maaaring iba
  68. 5:47'yung variety Maaaring parehas sila ng grade pero iba let's say dinorado at
  69. 5:52saka sinandoming Pero parehas silang bigas So ganun na lang natin sila
  70. 5:56ikumpara Okay So kumbaga kung sakaling wala ito therefore pumunta ka doon They
  71. 6:00are similar naman daw naman They are similar naman kasi Okay now at 'yung
  72. 6:05pangatlo kung sakaling wala 'yung dalawa coated price So basically meron pa ding
  73. 6:10existing price 'di ba Of identical and similar asset in inactive market So
  74. 6:17basically ang kaibahan lang naman nung pangatlo okay Doun sa naunang dalawa
  75. 6:22there is no active market Okay Kasi when we say active market nga palaging merong
  76. 6:28market participant Pero sa inactive market
  77. 6:33pa rin Pero hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon ay available 'yung market
  78. 6:38participants Okay But then there is a price Okay And then you can compare
  79. 6:43Merong identical and similar assets So basically makukuha mo din yung fair
  80. 6:48value noon dahil nga okay may katulad naman na asset may presyo pa rin naman
  81. 6:54Okay Again they are in descending hierarchy Okay na sila yung basihan kung
  82. 7:00ano ang fair value na basically in transaction in in how we solve
  83. 7:04accounting okay given naman siya mararamdaman mo naman na siya yung
  84. 7:09market value na siya yung fair value It's just that we are trying to explain
  85. 7:13what does it mean Okay Kasi nga yun yung measurement natin Fair value Okay Tumuli
  86. 7:19pa tayo ' ba ang sabi natin initially at fair value then subsequently also at
  87. 7:26fair value But then there are choices Okay One of those is this Okay Fair
  88. 7:31value through profit or loss Now okay Papaano namimili ang company na yun ang
  89. 7:37magiging valuation subsequently The answer is it depends in the business
  90. 7:43model for managing financial assets na basically merong tatlo nga niyan So ang
  91. 7:49ibig kong sabihin lang ay ganito Okay Kung ano yung business model or yung
  92. 7:54parang dahilan kung bakit hinahawakan ng business yung financial asset ung
  93. 8:00magiging measurement subsequently Okay So again depende sa business model kung
  94. 8:06ano 'yung magiging measurement subsequently At basically mayroon ditong
  95. 8:11tatlo Okay Ang una to hold investments in order to realize fair value changes
  96. 8:18na basically ito yung topic natin ngayon Kung sakaling ang purpose mo okay ay
  97. 8:25hawakan 'yung financial asset para kung sakaling magkaroon ng changes sa fair
  98. 8:31value makikinabang ka Okay Ang tawag doon is financial asset at fair value
  99. 8:39through profit or loss na nga Okay na basically kung iba ang business model mo
  100. 8:46hindi ito ang susundin mo sa measurement but rather iba Okay Katulad halimbawa
  101. 8:52nitong letter B to hold investment in order to collect contractual cash flow
  102. 8:58So kung iyan ang business model mo therefore the financial asset is will be
  103. 9:03measured at amortized cost that will be discussed later on in a separate
  104. 9:10discussion Okay At yung pangatlo to hold investment in order to collect
  105. 9:16contractual cash flows and sell the investment Okay na basically kung ito
  106. 9:21naman daw yung business model ang susundin naman natin na measurement is
  107. 9:25financial asset at fair value through OCI Maaaring magkaroon ng certain
  108. 9:32modification pero basically okay yung measurement ay depende sa kung ano ang
  109. 9:38business model na ginagamit ng negosyo sa kanilang investments na nga na
  110. 9:43basically financial asset Hindi tayo magfo-focus doun sa letter B and letter
  111. 9:48C today But rather doon lang tayo sa letter A Okay We hold investment in
  112. 9:55order to realize changes in fair value Okay na basically nandito pa nga yon
  113. 10:01Ayan maraming dahilan Hindi lang naman talaga iisa Hindi lang yung business
  114. 10:06model May iba pang modification na kaunti Okay At dito nga tayo magfo-focus
  115. 10:10lang muna Ang una Okay we choose okay this fair value through profit or loss
  116. 10:17measurement okay if the asset is held for trading Okay What does it mean by
  117. 10:23held for trading Basically you are plan to sell them and repurchase them in the
  118. 10:28near future to take advantage in the fluctuation of the fair value Okay So
  119. 10:33ibig sabihin binili mo yung stocks yung investment mo okay na kung saan feeling
  120. 10:38mo mura Mura ngayon mababa ang presyo pero pag dumanda ang presyo ibebenta mo
  121. 10:43siya Okay Therefore magkakaroon ka ng profit because of changes in the fair
  122. 10:48value And then later on maaaring bilhin mo ulit yung same investment na yon Kasi
  123. 10:53feeling mo biglang nagmura ulit at pag nagmahal ibebenta mo na naman Kumbaga
  124. 10:58nagte-take advantage ka doun sa emotion ng market Kasi alam niyo ba na ang mga
  125. 11:03stocks ang mga death securities may mga pagkakataonang nagpa-flock talaga ang
  126. 11:08kanilang presyo dahil sa emosyon And you are taking advantage of that Hindi dahil
  127. 11:14sa gusto mong maging investor talaga nung kanilang negosyo But rather gusto
  128. 11:17mo lang makinabang sa ganong scenario Therefore yung asset mo is really held
  129. 11:23for trading Okay Maaari din namang part siya ng portfolio na kung saan yun yung
  130. 11:28recent actual pattern na doun leading yung investment na katulad niya O so
  131. 11:34therefore they are really held for trading Meaning benta buy and sell ka
  132. 11:39diyan Trading nga eh Okay na basically kasali 'yan sa equity whether that is
  133. 11:43equity or debt security if your purpose is trading okay therefore you are fair
  134. 11:49value through profit or loss okay na basically siya ito ' ba nga ang sabi
  135. 11:55natin we measure financial asset depende sa kung ano yung business model na
  136. 12:00basically nagkakaroon ka ng ganong klase ng asset kasi ang model mo ay ito
  137. 12:05yan yon kaya ang kanyang other terminology okay they are fair value
  138. 12:10through profit or loss by requirement of the standard kasi sinabi ng standard na
  139. 12:16pag ito yung business model yan yung measurement ano ang example po niyan
  140. 12:21kunwari nabalitaan m okay magkakaroon ng bagong cellphone company or parang ano
  141. 12:27ah internet provider dito sa Pilipinas na mas mabilis kaysa dun sa mga existing
  142. 12:31so anong ginawa mo namimili ka ng shares nila nila speculating na nag-iisip ka
  143. 12:37okay na one day tataas ang presyo yan kasi nga magkakaroon ng other
  144. 12:41competition magkakaroon ng hype ang market na merong bagong parating so
  145. 12:46therefore habang mura pa bibilhin ko Okay Then later on pag nakita ko na
  146. 12:50tumataas na yung presyo niyan ibebenta ko na sa iba kasi nga hindi ko naman
  147. 12:54talaga intensyon na maging investor talaga niyan Ang gusto ko lang 'yung
  148. 12:57changes in fair value So therefore okay that is he help for trading Kung
  149. 13:03sinasabing ikaw 'yung trader sa stock market pero ito 'yun Okay So again
  150. 13:08whether that is equity 'yung example natin or kahit debt securities kasi alam
  151. 13:12niyo ba meron din namang mga deb securities na pwed na mayong market 'di
  152. 13:17ba They are also sometimes held for trading din Okay Therefore their
  153. 13:21measurement is also at fair value through profit or loss Okay let's move
  154. 13:26on Hindi lang yun Okay Maaari ding yung tinatawag na by consequence When we say
  155. 13:33consequence parang ano yun truth and truth or consequence yung parang parusa
  156. 13:39Okay Dahil ganyan actually parang ganun din naman yung concept ko dahil ganyan
  157. 13:44ka Therefore ito ka Ganun yun By consequence liwanagin natin ang sabi
  158. 13:49dito okay all other investments encoded okay Equity instrument Niliwanag it must
  159. 13:58be equity instrument Pero po sa ating presentation hindi kaabot-usap yung debt
  160. 14:04instrument Equity lang talaga kasi yun nga mismo yung pangalan ng term Okay Ano
  161. 14:09ba muna itong tinatawag na quoted equity instrument When we say quoted nga dun sa
  162. 14:15usapan kanina merong ibinibigay talaga na presyo Okay So meaning in any given
  163. 14:20point in time merong presyong ibinigay doun sa mga equity securities Kahit
  164. 14:26hindi mo naman talagang purpose na i-trade okay Pero dahil nga coated sila
  165. 14:32laging may presyo you will measure that investment at fair value through profit
  166. 14:38or loss By consequence kasalanan kasi nila sila ay quoted Ano ang example non
  167. 14:45Yung mga kumpanya na listed sa Philippine Stock Exchange Let's say si
  168. 14:50Jollibee si si Meralco si GMA ' ba may mga presyo sila anytime of the day pero
  169. 14:57they are coated alam mo yyung fair value talaga nila Okay So even if even if you
  170. 15:04don't want to trade that and you do not choose other may hindi ka humanap ng
  171. 15:09ibang paraan Therefore kaya nga sabi all other investment by consequence you have
  172. 15:16to measure that investment at fair value through profit of loss Okay The third
  173. 15:21and fourth one is actually pertaining to death securities naman Ayan So basically
  174. 15:27hindi po kasali dito yung equity securities dito sa dalawang ginom Ano
  175. 15:32yung pangatlo Ang sabi dito revocably designated on initial
  176. 15:38recognition that you want to measure that debt investment at fair value
  177. 15:44through profit or loss Therefore ang tawag doon by irrevocable designation or
  178. 15:50by option First point what does it mean by irevocable Irevocable means hindi na
  179. 15:56pupwedeng baliin Okay Hindi mo napupwedeng baguhin Kaya nga irevocable
  180. 16:02yung desisyon mo yung pagde-designate mo Okay Ang ibig sabihin niyan even though
  181. 16:10pumasok yung death instrument dito sa letter B let's say peppwede naman talaga
  182. 16:16siyang i-measure at fear value at amortized cost Pwede siya diyan
  183. 16:21or pumasok siya sa letter C yung death securities pwede din siya dian Nga lang
  184. 16:27hindi mo sila pinili at yung pagpili mo ay irrevocable Therefore you will be
  185. 16:32allowed to measure that at fair value through profit or loss Sa madaling
  186. 16:37salita kahit ito 'yung model okay May pagkakataon na ano na iba ang maging
  187. 16:42measurement if you choose otherwise Ibig sabihin 'yun yung option mo And by the
  188. 16:49way kaya siya'y available lamang sa deb securities at hindi sa equity securities
  189. 16:55Kasi nga ang sabi dito to hold investment in order to collect
  190. 17:00contractual cash flow To hold investment in order to
  191. 17:05collect contractual cash flow Meaning merong regular na ibinabayad na
  192. 17:12basically kung debt securities yung contractual na ibinibigay is yung
  193. 17:17interest because that is your purpose to collect interest let's say Okay Ay
  194. 17:21kapagka equity securities ba ' ba napag-usapan na sa topic na corporation
  195. 17:27Required ba ang corporation na magbigay ng dividends every quarter every year
  196. 17:31The answer is no They are not required to give you dividends The obligation is
  197. 17:35not contractual but rather constructive if you can remember Okay So basically
  198. 17:41hindi talaga pwede yung equity dito So going back going back ano yung number
  199. 17:46three Pwede naman talaga sanang pumasok yung business model or ito yung
  200. 17:51measurement na gamitin yung B or C But then you choose otherwise you choose
  201. 17:57this one Therefore you cannot change that ano irrevocable designation
  202. 18:01papayagan ka naman kung sakaling death securities na basically hindi nga
  203. 18:06pupwede ang equity securities kasi for the first place there is no contractual
  204. 18:11cash flows in equity Okay let's move on with letter D Ang sabi naman dito all
  205. 18:18debt investments Niliwanag uli na debt investments iyan that do not satisfy the
  206. 18:24requirements for measurement at amortized cost and fair value through
  207. 18:29OCI Okay So therefore that is by default So anong ibig sabihin Hindi daw niya
  208. 18:35na-satisfy itong letter B at letter C Sa madaling salita hindi ganyan yung
  209. 18:39business model Hindi letter B hindi letter C Hindi sila ganon So therefore
  210. 18:44ano siya By default doun ka sa trading securities or I mean fair value through
  211. 18:50profit or loss Yun pala yung mas tamang term Ano kasi yung trading securities ay
  212. 18:54para lang talaga if it is held for trading pero basically they can be
  213. 18:58interchangeably sometimes okay as we try to solve problems So balikan ko po yung
  214. 19:03sinasabi ko ano Okay kung ikukumpara mo yung number three at number four yung
  215. 19:08number three kasi pasok siya sa B at C nga lang ayaw mo That's why naging ano
  216. 19:14ka ah FBPL Pero itong number four hindi siya pasok sa letter B at letter C Wala
  217. 19:22siya pero still alam mo iyung fair value Okay Kasi kung hindi mo alam ang fair
  218. 19:27value ibang usapan yan Kasi dapat alam mo talaga muna yung fair value May
  219. 19:32evidence kang makukuha na meron Okay Kasi again kung wala meron pong iba pang
  220. 19:36usapan Pero kagaya ang punto natin alam mo yung fair value pero hindi siya
  221. 19:40pumasok sa B and C Therefore ano siya Okay Therefore fair value through profit
  222. 19:45or loss siya by default Okay All debt investments Kasi nga again and again
  223. 19:51hindi naman pepwede 'yung equity securities doun sa BNC dahil wala naman
  224. 19:57ngang contractual cash flow kung business model ang pag-uusapan
  225. 20:02Okay So I believe na pag-usapan na natin How do how does the ano the investment
  226. 20:07classified through profit or loss at your value through profit or loss Ito
  227. 20:12yung mga dahilan Okay na basically when you try to read the problem sila yung
  228. 20:17magiging parang ano mo guide mo kung anong ide-debit mo initially and ano ang
  229. 20:22treatment mo subsequently kasi nga mararamdaman mo dito sa mga to Okay And
  230. 20:26going back yung binabanggit ko na nga kanina ang other term dito sa fair value
  231. 20:31through profit or loss is trading securities Kasi basically okay the
  232. 20:37measurement is based on the business model na basically yan yung letter A to
  233. 20:42hold uh investment in order to realize fair value changes You really want to
  234. 20:47drain yung iba kasi parang ano eh dagdag lang Okay Pero basically babalik ka pa
  235. 20:51rin d sa letter A that they are really trading securities Okay Yan Alam na po
  236. 20:57natin yung anong ibig sabihin ng fair value Now punta naman tayo d sa changes
  237. 21:03na tinatawag Kasi ang sabi dito okay yung changes ay pupunta saan Sa profit
  238. 21:09or loss Okay So basically nagiging part ka ng comprehensive income statement
  239. 21:15Kasi nga ang sabi through profit or loss ang punta That's how you measure that
  240. 21:20Pero ang sabi dito sabi po sa ating presentation whether the changes okay is
  241. 21:27temporary or permanent okay all of them goes to profit or loss What does it mean
  242. 21:34by temporary changes in fair value May change no kasi nga from initially going
  243. 21:39to subsequently nababago talaga ang fair value niyan Okay Ano yung ibig sabihin
  244. 21:43ng temporary 'Yun na nga yung binabanggit nga natin kaninang example
  245. 21:47Let's say may magtatayo dito na ano na cellite company internet provider Okay
  246. 21:52Sa simula pa lang wala pang ginagawa Nabalitaan pa lang ng mga tao okay na
  247. 21:57magtatayo daw Okay At maganda daw yung service sa ibang bansa Parang ganon may
  248. 22:03pattern na Anong ibig sabihin non Nagkakaroon ng hype okay yung mga tao
  249. 22:08doun sa presyo so what can we say That changes is really temporary kasi emosyon
  250. 22:14yung nag-drive Okay Wala pang nangyayari pero gumaganda na yung presyue Bumabango
  251. 22:19na kasi yung pangalan Malay mo nagkaroon ng balita hindi na daw pala tuloy So
  252. 22:23what can we say Okay Therefore bababa yung presyo Emotion pa din yung
  253. 22:27nag-drive Okay Pero mamaya natuloy na naman pala Therefore mababago-bago Or
  254. 22:32yung mga halimbawang balita na namatay yung presidente nagkaroon ng bagong deal
  255. 22:37mag-o-open daw ng bagong branch Balita pa lang emusyon pa lang yung nagda-drive
  256. 22:41Un na yun or nakikita nila yung mga nandun sa active market ' ba active
  257. 22:45market yan napapansin nila na ang daming bumibili non o therefore doon na din
  258. 22:50tayo bumili napapagaya sila okay what can we say those changes is not really
  259. 22:56because the business improves or decline but rather emosyon yung naging dahilan
  260. 23:03okay there are what we call temporary changes while permanent changes is yun
  261. 23:08yung totoo ulit sa totoong bumagsak yung company yung mismong operation ang
  262. 23:11na-damage nasunog yung company ' ba parang ganon So therefore that is a
  263. 23:15permanent change Ang punto okay kung sakaling ikaw ay at fear value to profit
  264. 23:21or loss wala ka ng pakialam whether permanent or temporary Kasi nga
  265. 23:27temporary pa lang nire-report mo na sa profit or loss Okay Temporary 'yun e
  266. 23:34Temporary Hindi nga sigurado 'yun eh Doun mo nire-report Ay ano pa 'yung
  267. 23:37permanent wala ka na lalong pakialam dito kasi nga kung temporary doun mo na
  268. 23:41nilalagay kung permanent natural hindi mo na kinakailangan iisipin ng kung ano
  269. 23:46pa automatically doun na rin daw sa profit or loss lahatan maaaring wala
  270. 23:51pang significance yung sinasabi ko okay kasi nga nandito pa lang tayo sa true
  271. 23:55profit or loss na lahat naman ay doon ang punta pero later on as we try to
  272. 24:00move on with other okay measurement of financial asset okay classification
  273. 24:06maaaring magkaroon significance yung sinasabi nating temporary and permanent
  274. 24:10I'm talking here about impairment Okay Actually yung impairment yun yung
  275. 24:14permanent decline Okay Ayun ngang temporary decline nire-record natin
  276. 24:20profit or loss eh ano pa yung permanent ' ba Malamang doun na din yung punta
  277. 24:24kasi nga yun iyung measurement So it doesn't matter actually because of that
  278. 24:28because of that yung transaction cost nadamay Ang ibig kong sabihin balikan
  279. 24:33natin itong ano measurement initially Okay Generally what is the rule How do
  280. 24:38we measure financial asset Generally initially at fair value plus transaction
  281. 24:44cost Transaction cost is actually directly attributable cost Kailangan
  282. 24:49siya para matuloy yung transaction and usually capitalizable siya dahil nga
  283. 24:53directly attributable cost siya Nga lang sa point of view ng trading securities
  284. 24:59or fair value through profit or loss irrelevant yung ganng statement Ay ang
  285. 25:04kanila nga kasing punto lahat nga ng changes pupunta sa profit or loss
  286. 25:09Therefore yung transaction cost na hindi naman talaga totoong investment but
  287. 25:13rather directly attributable lang huwag na ring i-capitalize doun din ang punta
  288. 25:18niyan kung sakaling mabago ang care value Okay So again and again okay there
  289. 25:23is an exemption to the general rule and this one again financial asset how do we
  290. 25:28measure Answer fair value plus transaction cost That is a general rule
  291. 25:34Okay But then there is an exemption at if the financial asset is measured
  292. 25:39through at fair value through profit or loss yung transaction cost is not added
  293. 25:44but rather treated as an outright expense kasi ang sabi nila doun din
  294. 25:49naman ang punta niyan kapagka nagkaroon ng changes sa fair value dahil lahat
  295. 25:53naman ng changes ay pupunta rin naman sa profit or loss Huwag ng i-capitalize
  296. 25:57Pinapatagal lang natin Okay Now itong changes sa fair value or or law ah itong
  297. 26:04changes na to okay ay basically ang tawag doon ay unrealized gain or
  298. 26:11loss Okay What does it mean by unrealized
  299. 26:15Okay Realize meaning kung totoong nangyari na yung gain or loss na
  300. 26:22basically totoong nangyari na yon kung sakaling tinuluyan mo or ginawa mo yung
  301. 26:28business model mo Okay In order to realize pair value changes ng tipong
  302. 26:34biglang nagbago iyung presyo ibinenta mo Okay At tumubo ka Ang tawag doun ay
  303. 26:39realized gain At kung nalugi ka naman ang tawag doun ay realized loss Nga lang
  304. 26:44nga lang Okay May mga pagkakataon na nagi-speculate ka pa Let's say kunwari
  305. 26:51100 mo binili naging 120 Ang sabi mo pwede ko ng ibenta kikita ako ng 20
  306. 26:56Magkakaroon ako ng realized game Pero huwag muna Alam kong tataas pa So
  307. 27:01basically anong tawag doun sa gain mo Is that realized No that is unrealized Okay
  308. 27:08Bakit unrealized yung tawag Kasi nga hindi mo pa naman talaga totoong
  309. 27:13ibinebenta Kaya ang tawag unrealize Sa madaling salita it's just a paper
  310. 27:19Okay Paper gain or loss Anong ibig sabihin niyan Sa papel ka lang merong
  311. 27:24gain Sinulat mo lang 100 ngayon 120 na bukas So 'di ba may tubo akong 20 paper
  312. 27:30gain yun Ginawa mo na ba binenta mo ba yun Binenta mo na ba talaga Hindi pa
  313. 27:34Kaya nga si Unrealized pa lang ang tawag But non the But't n the least Okay Sa
  314. 27:40measurement nga na to all the changes okay whether realized or unrealized
  315. 27:48whether temporary or permanent all of them will go to profit or law So it
  316. 27:54doesn't matter Okay mamaya sa panghuli po natin magbibigay tayo ng illustration
  317. 27:59dito na mas maa-appreciate niyo as we try to solve problems Okay let's move on
  318. 28:04with the journal entries Too much for this Okay so whenever we buy okay the
  319. 28:10securities with debit FBL or pwede rin namang trading securities lalo na kung
  320. 28:15papasok naman doun sa number one So basically we credit cash that's when we
  321. 28:19buy Then later on there are changes in fair value but you do not actually sell
  322. 28:25So therefore okay let's say there is a gain So you are going to debit trading
  323. 28:30securities because there is an increase and you are going to credit unrealized
  324. 28:36gain dash trading securities or profit or loss na nga kasi nga okay doun ang
  325. 28:41punta niya Yan yung sinasabi natin hindi mo pa kasi binebenta at kung sakali
  326. 28:46namang bumaba ung presyo therefore baliktad Okay So therefore at the end of
  327. 28:50the period let's say yung changes nangyari ng December 31 how do you
  328. 28:54measure the investment Basically at fair value Kasi nga yung dating value
  329. 28:58ina-update mo sa kung ano ang naging changes okay Dun sa fair value na
  330. 29:03basically yung changes saan napunta Through profit or loss Yun ang
  331. 29:07unrealized gain or loss na Basically kapagka nagkaroon ka ng actual sale this
  332. 29:12is the common ano entry 'Yung debit cash kasi natural benenta mo 'Yung credit
  333. 29:16trading securities kasi mawawala na 'yung investment mo and your credit gain
  334. 29:20on sale of trading securities kung sakaling tumubo ka naka-debit naman yung
  335. 29:25loss kung sakaling naluwi ka Okay Last point May pagkakataon kasi na yung iyong
  336. 29:30trading securities ay hindi lang iisa Madami sila Okay Yung iba nagkakaroon ng
  337. 29:35gain yung iba nagkakaroon ng loss Kasi nga merong prinsipyo sa finance ' ba Do
  338. 29:40not put your eggs in one basket Meaning kung mag-i-invest ka huwag lang dun sa
  339. 29:45isang paglalagyan pwede mong hati-hatiin sa magkakaiba para kapagka yung iba'y
  340. 29:52nalugi at least meron ka pa din na kumita Okay So ibig sabihin sometimes
  341. 29:56the presentation is there as investment A B C may positive may negative So what
  342. 30:01will we do Okay Basically basically ah offsetting is allowed Okay Kasi nga iisa
  343. 30:07yung kanilang nature iisa yung kanilang business model So whenever you sell just
  344. 30:12take out kung alin man yung ibinebenta mo So basically nabanggit na po natin
  345. 30:16halos lahat yung theories dito sa ating ano topic fair value through profit or
  346. 30:20loss Kung meron pa man akong gustong okay ito po yun Magbibigay tayo ng
  347. 30:26kaunting graphical presentation na later on gagamitin din natin as we move along
  348. 30:32with other investments Okay Parang guide niyo Okay How do we recognize gain or
  349. 30:38loss Ayan
  350. 30:40[Musika] So ganito siya Okay Trading securities
  351. 30:43na lang ang gamitin natin Ayan Trading securities Actually na ang tawag na sa
  352. 30:49kanya ay fair value through profit or loss Okay Let's say binili mo nga Okay
  353. 30:55Ulit ulit ulit Binili mo siya at 100 Okay So this is the ano the line this is
  354. 31:01the cost and this is the time Okay Nung binili mo siya ng 100 okay lalagyan mo
  355. 31:09siya ng parang historical cost line Meaning yun yung 100 all throughout Kung
  356. 31:14sakaling hindi mo pa siya binebenta by the way 'di ba Ang sabi lang kung
  357. 31:17sakaling feeling mo favorable sao tsaka mo pepwedeng ibenta Okay Inensa kumita
  358. 31:21ka or alam mo na bubulusok pa pababa i-cut loss mo na So therefore may mga
  359. 31:26pagkakataon binebenta mo kahit lugi Okay Favorable pa rin 'yung sa'yo kasi sa
  360. 31:30prediction mo baka lalo pang pumangit So ang punta natin ay ganito Okay Let's say
  361. 31:35from 100 nung year nung year zero then l year 1 bigla siyang naging 90 Okay So
  362. 31:41what can we say We will recognize unrealized loss here for Php10 Okay Then
  363. 31:46later on naging 95 Okay So what can we say We will recognize unreal unrealized
  364. 31:53gain here at Php5 Then later on okay nung year 3 naging 120 okay year 3 So
  365. 32:00what can we say We will recognize here unrealized gain Okay From 95 going to
  366. 32:06120 that is 25 Then later on let's say naging 110 So we will recognize
  367. 32:12unrealized loss for 10 Okay Ang kunwari hindi mo binebenta ng ganyang mga
  368. 32:17panahon Okay So ano lang ang ating ano gustong i-emphasize po dito ' ba ang
  369. 32:22bili mo sa kanya 100 Actually wala kang pakialam doun sa historical cost line
  370. 32:29Okay Wala pa rin siyang significance ngayon We will try to compare that later
  371. 32:33on sa ibang klase ng investment Doun niyo makikita yung sinasabi po natin
  372. 32:36yung ating technique Okay Basta sa ngayon isipin niyo na lang kung ano yung
  373. 32:41dating cost yung kanyang dating fair value 'yun 'yung ginagamit mong
  374. 32:45pagkukumpara dun sa kasunod Now let's say from 100 naging 90 therefore
  375. 32:49unrealized losses kasi bumaba Okay from 90 to 95 okay ang treatment unrealized
  376. 32:56gin kasi tumaas From 95 to 120 ang treatment unrealized gin kasi tumaas You
  377. 33:01are comparing this two your previous fair value to the subsequent fair value
  378. 33:07Okay And let's say bumaba therefore unrealized losse At wala kang pakialam
  379. 33:12kung ang bili mo sa kanya dati yung 100 Kasi nga si trading security is all the
  380. 33:16changes okay whether temporary or permanent okay realized or unrealized
  381. 33:22all goes to okay profit or loss Marami na po akong nabanggit Baka nga yung iba
  382. 33:27mare-reveal pa lang talaga yung kanyang significance sa mga kasunod na series ng
  383. 33:31ating pag-uusap Okay Pero sa ngayon kung gusto moang balikan 'yung sinasabi
  384. 33:35naming discussion patungkol sa financial asset nandirito 'yung lecture maaari
  385. 33:39mong mapanood At kung gusto mo pa ng ibang mga discussion patungkol sa
  386. 33:43investments nandirito pa 'yung iba naming lecture Okay At kung nag-enjoy ka
  387. 33:47pwede mo namang i-like itong video

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